As someone from the UK, I just cannot fathom the sheer vastness of these (beautiful) US wilderness areas. I have immense respect for them, the deep silence and stillness, and these brave searchers.

@janefreeman995

2 жыл бұрын

It is something beyond the imagination. I grew up with the Cascade and Olympic Mountain Ranges as gorgeous chisled skylines in the distance east and west. This year I hiked the Pacific Crest Trail and the dimension amidst the Cascades is simply boggling. Trees forever...vast areas that have been untouched or rarely so. And due to budget cuts a few years ago there's virtually a handful of people managing millions of acres in the USA. In any case truly so wild, beautiful and astounding and an ominous place to get lost. With all the endless prevailing scuttlebutt, this experience has given me something to feel akin about. One could spend a lifetime exploring just the Cascades and there would be a new incredible vista everyday. To add...these are maginificent places beyond social constructs and that stillness you mention is a great equalizer! :)

@francoisdongalong2213

2 жыл бұрын

Canada has even more wilderness

@marko-1987

2 жыл бұрын

Check how many go missing up in Scotland that aren't found. Mad numbers

@silvermainecoons3269

2 жыл бұрын

@@marko-1987 Maybe the Gray Man of Ben MacDhui has been extra busy. Am Fear Liath Mòr. 😉

@ashleyunderwood4855

2 жыл бұрын

The natives call these lands “borderlands” as in bordering another dimension. Come here and you will see why. It is almost spiritual the vastness of it. My native grandmother said that these are the lands that the elders used to talk to the other worlds. I believe it.

My boyfriend and I spent 4 or 5 days out there up Agness in the Shawn Higgins search effort. My boyfriend was good friends with Shawn and often hunted this area with him in the past. It was heartbreaking going home without finding Shawn. Our hopes got really high once Trevor was found. I’ve lived in Coos Bay for years and this is the first time I’ve heard the rumor that Shawn isn’t out there in those woods (implying someone took him). That seems a little hard to believe. While it’s weird Shawn was never found, those woods are enormous and treacherous. I remember I really wanted to participate in the actual search efforts but the land is so rugged and dangerous. Last thing I wanted was to become lost or injured myself and take resources away from finding Shawn so I stayed at the camp site during the day while my boyfriend went out with the search crews. It took 4 days for hundreds of searches to find Trevor and I believe he was just a couple miles from where he was last seen. If I remember right, Trevor stayed put the first night he got lost waiting for search crews so he didn’t wander too far. I’ve heard that if you get lost out in the woods it’s a good idea to stay put (if you know people are looking for you). If Shawn spent days walking (maybe injured, confused) he could be anywhere. I don’t think he was wearing bright clothes when he went missing either. The whole situation is heartbreaking. Just so greatful Trevor (his son) was found alive and well. At least Stephanie still has her son. I can’t believe Shawns been gone for 5 years now. 😢

As a kids we used to play hide and seek in a woods much smaller than a national park. No one could ever find anyone determined to not be found. Staying completely still is a great strategy. "He couldn't have gotten that far..." I had a seventy year old friend who stepped out for a quart of milk. He was found 300 miles away in a confused stare of mind. Letting an 86 year old go off into the woods alone is akin to the Eskimos putting their old ones one an iceberg to float away forever. Poor judgement on everyones' part.

@borntobewild9056

Жыл бұрын

I agree with that...I would never stop my 86 year old friend, dad, uncle, whatever from going hunting but I would make sure someone was within eye contact at all times....no matter how healthy mentally and physically he/she was.

@nunya2954

Жыл бұрын

Something fishy with that whole story. Wonder what the financial situations are/were. And no one leaves ONE man alone and yet the others stay together. What made them decide to leave a single person alone in the woods, much less an elder while the, I think there were 2 others) while those 2 a pair, YOUNGER than him but they STAYED together. Sorry, but I think FOUL PLAY..

@marianparoo1544

Жыл бұрын

@@nunya2954 Agree

I spent a just over a year looking for a missing person here in Perth Western Australia. Juraj left his home one morning and drove and got his car bogged on a bush track. Then he started walking north roughly, it is supposed he had dementia. His family were committed to find him. They plotted every search on a gps and mapped them, eliminating areas covered. One morning I was with his two sons and we found his remains. I think if you keep looking, meticulously mapping areas covered there's a quite good chance of finding the remains. Never give up, leave no one behind.

Most people, ALMOST Most people, would NOT let an 86 year old walk around the forest/woods alone. Come on…think about it.

An idea on the Alvie Webb case - One reason many hunters get lost is they know where they are, but then see deer/elk and begin to pursue the game and in their excitement they do not pay attention to where they are going. In thick woods it is possible to get lost after hiking even a short distance. I ALWAYS carry a GPS and make a waypoint of the where my truck is parked. I then turn off the GPS and go into the woods and hike wherever I like without worry. When it is time for me to hike out if I get turned around I can then turn on the GPS and have it guide me back to my truck. I also have a GPS app on my iPhone that I use as a backup, so at any given time I have two GPS units on me. I was hunting in Northern Idaho earlier this fall and there was some bad fog that would limit visibility making it VERY easy to get turned around. In six days of hunting I had two different times that I had to use the GPS technology to get me out of the woods. It works GREAT. I have used GPS technology since the mid 1990's. It has never failed me.

This case, with the age of the man and his inability to move any distance by himself reminds me of another missing person's case that happened here in Colorado. Two men went out rock hunting. I can't remember what they were looking for, but one went off to check a different area, left the first guy sitting in a shallow pit, doing a little digging looking for whatever kind of gems he was looking for. A short period of time later, comes back and the guy is gone. No sign of him walking off (which he wouldn't have been able to do, he needed help walking even short distances) and all these years later there's still no sign of what happened to him. I'll see if I can figure out that guy's name.

@IanP1963

2 жыл бұрын

Yes l saw Dave Paulides vid on that, l will send it you....

@damiensimpson804

2 жыл бұрын

Louis Dametz case.

@missycitty9478

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. I remember that story. These stories are as mind boggling as it gets. I say it all the time- there is way more going on out in this world than we probably even want to know. Scary, twisted, evil sh*t. You can't convince me otherwise.

@DIVISIONINCISION

2 жыл бұрын

@@missycitty9478 There's more going on, but it's not like the government doesn't know what it is. They just can't prevent it from happening. Aliens do what they want.

@missycitty9478

2 жыл бұрын

@@DIVISIONINCISION I think it goes way beyond Aliens..

I'm by no means a survivalist or savy person in the mountains, but why would anyone leave an elderly person alone while hunting??? That seems stupid actually.

@RogueReplicant

2 жыл бұрын

@Scott Barnett That's a stupid answer. I don't give a crap what my 90 year-old grandfather "decides". We're not leaving him alone like that ffs 👊

@buckrogers6378

2 жыл бұрын

I remember taking my elderly grandpa deer hunting with us one year. And the type of hunting he was only able to do was to find a spot where he could sit and view a wide open range of land. That said, I recall my dad always remaining close by to grandpa for this very reason. It just doesn't make much sense to prioritize the hunt of the animal over the safety and concern of your loved ones.

@tmclemons4213

2 жыл бұрын

@@RogueReplicant Thats because you are a good grandson!

@RogueReplicant

2 жыл бұрын

@Scott Barnett It's not an attack; words are not violence. The description of something is not an aggression, ya little snowflake. 😎

@christinemeleg4535

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!! It is stupid!

"Just a quick trip into the woods." Sounds eerily similar to: "a three hour tour, a three hour tour."

@slatsgrobneck7515

2 жыл бұрын

Good One! :)

Theres something weird going on with all these hunters that keep going missing. They just literally vanish. With NO signs of them, their gear, guns, etc.. The one thing they sometimes find is their boots which just makes it scarier yet. And once their missing there's always bad weather that rolls in. Its just freaky!! Nice job Bryan

@lesliethompson4588

2 жыл бұрын

No doubt in my mind whatsoever

@derekfoehr9264

2 жыл бұрын

Seems to me that you would take someone's footwear if you didn't want them to be able to escape quickly.

@diturner7247

2 жыл бұрын

@@derekfoehr9264 very interesting 🤔.

@susanbrown2909

2 жыл бұрын

That’s what they did to the NA on the trail of tears.

@elizabethgallagher1575

2 жыл бұрын

Bigfoot Sasquatch took him through a portal.

Thank you Bryan for what all you do to help the Missing✌️🙏

NEVER, NEVER, NEVER leave an elderly person alone. They might look fine but all it takes is a sudden drop in thyroid levels or certain nutrients like vitamins D3 and B12 to give them a severe case of brain fog. Then there is the issue of strokes. Sounds like Alvie's friends didn't want to slow down for him. So very sad.

@stephen-truthseeker

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I was thinking the same

@marciatallman3073

2 жыл бұрын

My first thought too on this. Someoneshould have stayed by him at all times on their hunting trip....all these mysterious disappearances are heart breaking 💔...and beyond bizarre

@lambdee7006

2 жыл бұрын

That is no place for an elderly man to be alone.

@lvanderdoes8199

2 жыл бұрын

Read the book this was taken from. He was on a hunting party with friends and family. He was put in place because he was elderly and they wanted to drive the elk and deer to him. And if he had any trouble he had only fire his rifle 3 times. This was familiar territory and they had done it before in the same way.

@louiseharraway2599

2 жыл бұрын

exactly. hes 86. fancy leaving him alone all that time. crazy

I'll be honest, at first these missing person stories never struck me as much of a mystery. I figured, its a large area, they simply got lost and likely passed away. But then I watched some of these stories and learned just how many go missing and are never found, ever! Yes, these parks can be vast but we are talking human beings, they can only go so far from where they were last kniown. Secondly, people, like every living creature, take the path of least resistance, so theres little reason for a lost person to go off a path and bushwhack. So yeah, it is bizarre that a search crew of hundreds cannot find a trace of someone when they have likely covered every conceivable path within a large area. Whats more amazing is these folks remain missing despite years of other hikers, hunters and other outdoor enthusiests having been in every path or creek bed since. The ones in popular places like the Sierras where there are a bunch of people missing, never to be seen again, like that kid who took that photo of himself. That was a very popular hiking area and he was never found. Where the hell do they go?

@radicaltexannewsviews7685

2 жыл бұрын

Canam missing author paulides give u facts related to the clusters that hav e gone missing many decades. These are those they know about... Smh something evil lurks in woods

@radicaltexannewsviews7685

2 жыл бұрын

My guess it's a really strong predator maybe for snuff rituals etc. Leaving them nakid if it's a animal makes no sense. The ghb in many too makes me think it's human related but decades again ???? Dave says it's usually the first or last person and often they were separated. If I had to guess a Sasquatch or evil people like a cult or gov. Like mkultra. However I pondered if many have German linaege is it spy cell types ... Nothing makes sense

@joshlabouff7370

2 жыл бұрын

@@radicaltexannewsviews7685 Please elaborate because some Germans have committed suicide by knife slashing their own neck near me and gone missing, also Army intelligence officers going missing in National Parks....I have wondered the same thing as if these people were targeted. Too many coincidences.

@christinerose4839

2 жыл бұрын

I DON’T BELIEVE IN BIG FOOT OR UFOS BUT I DO THINK-THERE ARE FERAL PEOPLE OUT THERE AND THE HUNTER BECOMES THE HUNTED ,

@syasenns294

2 жыл бұрын

Gabby was found with 9 other bodies buried near her ….sad

My God, he was 86 years old! who leaves a man that old alone, he should have had some companionship with him,, By the way I love to listen to tell these stories, you have a nice soothing voice and I thank you

@wncjan

2 жыл бұрын

I had a friend who passed away from cancer at the age of 96 after a very short time being ill. But before that he lived on his own with no help. He took care of his farm and often went for week long hunting trips on his own, up to a few months before his paasing. If womething had happened to him, nobody would have known where to search for him.

Point of separation as Dave says in Missing 411 as when most of these cases happen I can’t stress enough for people to carry a PLB with them at all times (Personal Locator Beacon) at least that will give Search + Rescue your last location and possible present location of where you are

@robmen1402

2 жыл бұрын

seriously. EVERYONE should be doing this. would potentially save countless lives.

9:05 NEVER EVER go into the woods without basic essentials!! No matter how brief you may think your trip will be. That's OUTDOORS 101. Never take the outdoors for granted!!

@christinemeleg4535

2 жыл бұрын

Our thought exactly, we teach youth groups and our first statement is Never go alone, know the terrain, carry the ten essentials and tell someone where you are going, there is more but ewe know you know too, these people ignored that.

Coloradoan here... A lot of people go missing in the national parks and forests out here. Been that way for a hundred years. Sometimes they leave a trail that just stops, other times they vanish completely without a trace. We have a lot of animals here, obviously. Mountain lion, black bear, coyotes. The official position of the state is that grizzly bears have been extinct in Colorado since 1915, or something. Then a guy was mauled almost to death in 1979 by a female grizzly who they determined had given birth and nursed cubs, and the guy only survived because he stabbed the bear in the neck with an arrow, killing it. The official position of the state remained that grizzly bears were extinct in Colorado. I've watched coyotes strip a horse carcass to the bones over the course of a couple days, so it wouldn't surprise me if the remains of people that go missing get eaten, but I would still expect people to stumble upon their clothes, shoes, orange hunting jackets, etc. Hiking, hunting, biking, all kinds of outdoor activity are incredibly popular here. One thing the state has that a lot of people don't know about is reports of all kinds of supernatural activity, from UFO sightings and cattle mutilations, to Bigfoot sightings. I'm not saying it's related to any of those things, but I do wonder sometimes.

@dhandman3744

2 жыл бұрын

It does make you wonder with some of these disappearances.

@stephaniegoodman6887

2 жыл бұрын

Something crazy going on for sure.

@buckrogers6378

2 жыл бұрын

That sounds a lot like Eastern Utah and the Uintah Basin area where I've spent a lot of time. This is where Skinwalker Ranch is located. My relatives own a ranch not too far from Skinwalker and there were many stories among my relatives regarding UFO sightings long before the 90's when Skinwalker Ranch was experiencing all of its crazy activity. Something is out there for sure.

@Smalltownvalue

2 жыл бұрын

I was raised in Durango and know this area well. I never even heard of this story but there are lots of places up there that all have demonic names. The los animas river is the river of lost souls. And the area he is in is right to the west of a ski mountain called purgatory. This area just had the 416 fire go through a good majority of that area which btw is an area with a TON of fingers! That area is so inhospitable something has to have happened. And to your point of grizzlies being in Colorado... the road from Dolores to telluride there is an area where a family friend has seen a wolf. And myself have been in an area of those mountains where I was elk hunting and ran across an bear scat pile as big a cow patty. I was 17 at the time in 2002. I have spent my entire life in the woods, I know what all the animals scat looks like in my area and there is absolutely NO way it was a black bear. It was absolutely massive at least three times bigger than any other black bear I have ever seen. I guarantee you there are still grizzlies in southern colorado. although I had faith in my shooting capability my 270 wasn’t what I would even consider protecting myself from a grisly with so I made tracks out of there as fast as I could never to go back to that section of woods again.

@HubertofLiege

2 жыл бұрын

Probably Bigfoot family picnic

A turkey hunter vanished here in pa, he went with 2 friends, they never found him. He had the keys to the truck

Both of these stories are so tragic. It’s hard to believe that someone could just disappear and nothing is left behind. It would be very difficult, as a family member, to deal with a loss like this.

@DIVISIONINCISION

2 жыл бұрын

It's very common. Missing 411. It's been happening since the dawn of man.

@leequinn2733

2 жыл бұрын

@@DIVISIONINCISIONI agree with you. I am fascinated with these mysteries. At some point someone has to see something, or maybe a camera will record something. The "aha" moment. Talking about this makes some defensive or they try to "reason it out." It takes them out of their comfort zone. One of my (adult)kids refuses to discuss this, says it's fake.

@elchelejeffreyennicaragua8241

2 жыл бұрын

@@leequinn2733 kids dissappear as well. So many of these stories of parents taking kids to a national park and kids running ahead on the trail and disappearing just up ahead. Crazy and sad but happens often. Try missing 911,,, thousands of these stories.

@christinemeleg4535

2 жыл бұрын

They became fodder for scavengers or predators. they cache their fodder, equipment and all, never to be found. This is natural,nothing mysterious about it. f\dealing with that loss is tragic.

@chodkowski01

2 жыл бұрын

Apparently you have never been in the middle of vast woodlands.

unreal! How could all that orange just vanish? that's crazy!!! Thank you as always for all you do!

@dhanyzaffry4829

2 жыл бұрын

Imma Malaysian and after failed to find Flight MH 370, Nothing is possible for us..

@archangel6666

2 жыл бұрын

@@dhanyzaffry4829 they found piece’s of flight 370, they didn’t find anything of this guy.

@christinemeleg4535

2 жыл бұрын

predators hide their kill, equipment and all, it is called 'caching", that is why anyone foolish enough to hike alone is not found. There isn't any mystery about it. Just sad people who overestimate what they can do , hike alone,are underprepared and then are victims of their vanity.

"They knew this area like the back of their head". No wonder they got lost.

This is my favorite channel 💯

Sounds like Alvie was a spry fella and wasn't staying home sitting in a rocking chair. He was out enjoying his life and the outdoors. I admire people like that. Also Mr. HIggins I feel so bad for their families.

@louiseharraway2599

2 жыл бұрын

its a bit old is 86. im not being horrible or mean. but what if a medical emergency was needed.

@hankgoldenshaft

2 жыл бұрын

@@louiseharraway2599 then he dies in the woods. Better than rotting away in the icu

@mtadams2009

Жыл бұрын

@@louiseharraway2599 As I care for my wife’s mother with dementia and much younger than that man all I can think and say is no one gets out of here alive. He died doing what he loved at a ripe old age. If that was my fate I would take it .I am in my 60s and do long distance hiking. Backpacking for months at a time and if I die in the mountains so be it. Much better than some nursing home.

Awesome coverage as usual. I love how you deliver the information. It feels more like a conversation in the best way

Bryan, I received my calendar yesterday and the pictures are breathtaking. Thank you for sharing your talents with us!

In the Oregon case, I can tell you from personal experience that I have gotten 'lost' or 'turned around' twice in Oregon. Fortunately i was not that far from roads and found my way back, but the takeaway I had was, it is very hard to identify landmarks in these woods and terrains. At some point it all looks familiar or the same, but it is not. Easy to get turned around and miss trails. The part of Oregon focused in the video is very remote. I would say GPS is essential if you back pack in to any of these areas.

@siggifreud812

2 жыл бұрын

excellent point. all of the sasquatch fans need a nice, close shave with Occam's razor.

@lemuret69

2 жыл бұрын

@@siggifreud812 It's incredible what people believe. And they vote!

@mikekemper9566

11 ай бұрын

I got lost in Michigan upper Penn lost few hours back in 78. No GPS defective compass. Even having a 30 o6 I was really scared.

6:45 "They knew the area like the back of their head" I myself rarely see the back of my head so I'd be in trouble.

@Zis4Zorro

2 жыл бұрын

I was wondering if anyone else would point out the phrase is "like the back of their hand" 😂

You left an 86 year old man for several hours and expected him to just stay there? Weird and wrong.

@littlejack6123

2 жыл бұрын

I agree...So very foolish.. If you have someone who is going to slow you down...just leave them home. So much better than loosing them forever. Very sad for all involved.

@bbrcummins1984

2 жыл бұрын

My dad is 86 and very active, he'll work a 20 year old in the ground and he's mind is very sharp,

@dhandman3744

2 жыл бұрын

If your not in shape body and mind then probably shouldn't be out there to begin with.

@leequinn2733

2 жыл бұрын

@@bbrcummins1984 God bless your dad.

@connieharris921

2 жыл бұрын

People say things that they don’t know what they are talking about. Alive was not a feeble old man . He hunted there every year and him and his son always had a plan . I know them personally and peoples opinions mean nothing when you weren’t there and you don’t know them.

It’s amazing how far an old person can get slowly, even a toddler can get miles away . Maybe he fell in a hole or crevice. Hope they find him eventually .

@journeysalkebulan

2 жыл бұрын

Nope!

@journeysalkebulan

2 жыл бұрын

Toddlers and the people missing aren't walking that far! When they are found miles away its not because they walked it.

@jillymills1

2 жыл бұрын

@@journeysalkebulan just my opinion and thought after watching, not saying it’s right or wrong

@whoimia5208

2 жыл бұрын

This was my thought, he fell and they just can’t find him because it’s so thick. Never been to this area but I have come across “ holes” that were completely hidden until you were right on the edge of them in thick underbrush. Most are small and might just twist your ankle but I remember one big one that must have been 3 feet deep and the size of a small plastic kiddie pool!

@jillymills1

2 жыл бұрын

@Scott Barnett you are entitled to your opinion as am I no need to be nasty saying I am some how not recognising the efforts of searchers which is not implied at all. If you want to be negative , maybe there is a group you can you to work out your anger.

RIP to them and empathy to the families.

We had a classmate of my granddaughter dissappear a few years ago from the middle of there small town of McCleary Washington, during the 4th of July, at dusk, I think she was 10 or 11, nothing found for years then 3 years ago hunters found part of a skull and spine in the forest, DNA testing by the FBI confirmed it was the girl's, Lindsey Brome, so the question is how hid her remains get clear across the state , from the coast to almost Idaho? And who are her killers, ?

Our neighbors across the road from our cabin are getting up there in age the one was glad to hear I'd be up for Turkey hunting the same period as him cause his long time hunting buddy is moving to Texas. It's always good to have someone who knows the area where your gonna be at just in case. My thoughts and prayers go out to the family.

This case bears similarities to the cases of Tom Messick, 82 and Fritz Drumm, 68. Both went missing in Nov of 2015, 10 days and 50 miles apart in New York State. Neither they nor their possessions has ever been found.

@Christina-71

2 жыл бұрын

I was just gonna comment the same thing. The similarities to Tom Messick's disappearance is chilling!

@leequinn2733

2 жыл бұрын

@@Christina-71 The man closest to him, a friend was something like 100 yards away. If Messick had had a chance to scream or yell the hunters probably would've heard him they were so close. Even the sheriff didn't know what to make of it.

@Christina-71

2 жыл бұрын

@@leequinn2733 yes, it's one of the most baffling cases I've ever heard of. They didn't find anything, not even his hunting rifle. And the fact that his son was on the hunt and the family has continued to look for him, to no avail.

Hello Brian and thank you for this video…………….. they should of never ever of left an 86-year-old man alone that’s pretty disgusting poor guy…………….kim🇬🇧

Ok just some info I used to live in Colorado and hunt elk there always alone. Bought an over the counter tag in that unit in conjeos county near plataro resivour. Drove down there on a 5 day scouting trip in Aug like 2 weeks before archery opener. First place I scouted east of the resivour was very steep almost I huntable. I had a new Toyota 4runner trd pro to get around the roads in. Ended up setting up and looking west at the south end of resivour watching for elk Nothing abnormal and I watched elk to the east for 2 days morning and night. Day 3 a Saturday I woke up to rain glassed again and elk we're still there so I made my move over there. Leaving there was a log across the road which I had to move. It was if someone put it there?. So I make it down and back up the west side below where the elk we're. No vehicles anywhere around so I'm like great. Off I go up to like 11 thousand feet. The sign in the timber was great and it was way more huntable. I got my bearings and was an island of timber there I wanted to put a trail camera in . Now in the timber was waist high grass but not like stickers. On me I had a Glock 10mm a knife bear mace and a Delorme inreach that was tracking me live on Facebook for my wife's benefit. One I get up to the flat portion I see the island of trees but there were elk close by I did not want to bump. By now it's pouring rain and I have seen enough and formed a plan for my bow hunt in 2 weeks. Now I start back to the round and my truck. I got my gps out and am taking a different route down. Now at one point I thought I was following an elk trail in the high grass as something had knocked down the wet grass and I used its trail. I break out to a no grass section and stop and look down and there is a giant barefoot track in the mud. I'm like wtf as it's pouring out and I'm the only one here. I called out show yourself now. Of course nothing ...I took a pic of the track and double timed it out of there. I was supposed to stay for 2 more days but I drive home to Florissant which took 5 hours. Little did I know I was in an area where they have been seen and the fbi had examined footprint casts taken by local le right there years prior. Tgere have been people go missing there also. The local elk guide won't say a peep about it. That's in the San jauns national forest in conjeos county.

I live in Durango, Colorado and weird things happen around here all the time

In Japan, the elderly and suicidal sometimes walk to the top of a mountain or into a dense trail-less forest to die.

@christinemeleg4535

2 жыл бұрын

People forget about that.

@lemuret69

2 жыл бұрын

The suicidal, yes. The elderly, not so much.

Hope you have a great Thanksgiving, Bryan and everyone. As an older person, there is a lot I could say about the first case, but enough of you have already said it adequately. Tragic!

@georginamannor8603

2 жыл бұрын

So sad.

I think Albie may have felt bad about being left behind (probably dealing with a lot of depression about getting older, health issues, etc.), and he decided to "go" in his own way (with dignity). He even may have hid from them initially. (may have even known about cave or other hiding spot, from years of hunting there) Just a thought. I know that I'd rather "go" in the forest or the sea, than end up in a nursing home. (Could have been talk about that at home. We don't know.)

@bradr1913

2 жыл бұрын

They should of not left his old ass out there alone. Especially no GPS no phone albie ass was introuble. Negligence

When you go out in the middle of nowhere’s you’re off the radar. You think you’re by yourself but very strong hungry animals are stalking you.

@slatsgrobneck7515

2 жыл бұрын

In that area? Like what

@beanyboomer5391

2 жыл бұрын

@@slatsgrobneck7515 bears

@slatsgrobneck7515

2 жыл бұрын

@@beanyboomer5391 Black bears? meh very rare Here in the grizzly bear country yes, that is a risk for sure

Thank you,Bryan for keeping attention on these cases! Still blows my mind that nothing is found. I pray for the families....😢

I lived and hunted in the area of Alvies disappearance for 40 years. There is a strangeness to the 4 corners region here. Several personal unsettling experiences have left me never quite as comfortable as the wilderness used to be.

@squarehead6c1

2 жыл бұрын

Are you willing to share some of those experiences?

@icescrew1

2 жыл бұрын

@@squarehead6c1 yes I'll find the link to a podcast a friend used it on and send to u.

@nunya2954

Жыл бұрын

@@icescrew1 I would love that podcast too.

I know this area very well, it is a dense mixture of Aspen and pine . There is a lot of blow down in the area . People do not realize how easy it is to walk right by someone. The under brush is thick. I have hunted Elk in this area I'm almost sure that they walked past him . As far as K9 are concerned People put WAY to much trust in their ability to locate a person, the scenting conditions have to be perfect. Another thing to consider is these dogs just don't get much real world experience in looking for people. Same with the SAR personnel . A friend and I were planning on looking for him last spring 2020 but Covid put a stop to that. Maybe we can try again next year.

@UnderSprayedWhiteSkies

2 жыл бұрын

Charlie Victor 20-1 is another boogie man the ruling clan contrived as a key element of their NWO (extermination) plan. Divoc shouldn't stop you from doing ANYTHING, it's completely contrived. However, I assert the rulers spray us w/some type of respiratory irritants of course to support the divoc meme.

@christinemeleg4535

2 жыл бұрын

@@UnderSprayedWhiteSkies You should write science fiction, you have the fiction done pretty well, all you state s a bunch of lies,very hurtful to the families, proud of the hurt you are causing?

@christinemeleg4535

2 жыл бұрын

Search and Rescue do practice. a lot. Dogs can only smell what is there,any rain,snow,heavy frost or dew and the scent is dissipated. or the question is rarely presented, was the person there in the first place? We know the area too, it is a nightmare to search, but notice the Mysterious Missing are always alone? First rule when outdoors, NEVER HIKE, HUNT ALONE!!

@Time-is-short-get-ready

2 жыл бұрын

@@christinemeleg4535 he is telling the truth...

Some people walk into a portal never to be seen again. One guy said he was walking down a trail when the air in front of him started looking weird. He put a foot forward and it disappeared so he drew it back, turned around and got the hell out of there.

Gee, that's so very to sad to hear . I love fishing and hunting too. But iam 68 and a halve years of old . I am would never go alone into the the woods . I need about another two of experienced people with me . A couple of of good huntin dogs. Be Plus 3 or more horses . High calibre of rifles a couple of 3 barrel be shotguns plus a small calibre .22 rimfire rifle . A GPS system, binocluus. Food and emergency equipment .Extra warm clothing .

I've been lost in the wilderness once, let me tell you, it is the scariest thing you can go through. My legs were so tight and sore from walking up and down the hills. You mind goes into a desperate place. I was lost a whole day and night. And luckily found my way out..

Thank you for all your hard work Bryan!! Love the content

Never fire at a squatch

Cartels conducting Illegal marijuana grows in Curry, Jackson and Josephine counties in southern Oregon are a huge problem. Shawn may have stumbled across an Illegal grow operation that resulted in his disappearance without a trace. Thanks for keeping Shawn's story alive Bryan

@larryboy8821

2 жыл бұрын

All the searching would have uncovered the grow site. I've been all over Southern Oregon and closest I've come to finding a grow site was finding one solitary bag of bat guano. Rare in the old days and not plausible anymore with weed being worthless in Oregon. Another case in the Bear Camp area had the poor guy go crazy, strip naked in a snow storm. Even tried to warm up by laying in a creek. He wandered in the same circle until he died. Terrain is the culprit in these cases, IMHO.

Best Channel! I hope you continue to do what you do! Thank you for all your work!

You are performing an awesome service Brian! Keep up the great work and bless you.

I have a home in the San Juans it doesn't take long to get lost there. People have been killed by bears there on the Hermosa trail too. The trails are deceptive you cant tell if you're on one or not. The last hunter that got lost was found in the Animas river. He fell off a cliff near missionary ridge. Hopefully they will find him soon.

Both situations are very concerning. Thank you for raising awareness about both men 🙏🙌 Reiki love and light for them to be located and reunited with their loved ones 🙌🙏🌈

Good work Bryan, actually when I hear of things like this, it reminds me of the Bermuda Triangle events. Maybe there are things going on that we will never understand. But I hope that the familie's of these missing people can find some peace..........the ''not knowing'' is awful.

Why would anyone leave someone who can barely walk a lone in the mountains?

Today (2022).. I'm 64, 've been hunting since the 70's. The first thing that goes in my "back Pack" is my GARMIN GPS's, A large Pack of Batteries, and I give the "localizer" Code to family and best friends and I do that even if it is a "short trip". ( there are No short trips into the Forest). Plus Hunting for me is like "ScubaDiving", ALWAYS USE THE "Buddy System". Best wishes for All Lost souls...!!!

Thank you for keeping these cases current!! I wish you a SAFE & HAPPY THANKSGIVING from Kentucky!!

I always wonder why people think it's so unfathomable that people disappear in large uninhabited forests and are never found. Lost hunters or hikers can get into trouble many different ways and end up way off the beaten path and eventually die. Lost people can get crushed by falling trees, fall and get speared by a branch, fall down a ravine and get washed down river, end up in remote caves, fall under logs, have creatures eat the remains. The possibilities are endless on how people go missing and SAR can't turn over every log or look in every boulder field that someone may have fallen in. Lesson learned, never go off alone in the forest.

Thank you for this content. Appreciate you

Love your videos-thanks for creating! “Knew the trails like the back of their head” think you meant back of their hands?

A VERY LARGE AREA OF OVER 30 YARDS???? LOL!!

Thank you for covering these cases………….🥲There’s a real lots of people going missing the 86 year old 🥲🙏🏻💙🙏🏻probably got fed up of waiting and started walking off and he’s probably falling some where 2 hours is a long time to leave someone alone in A place like that and I bet it was longer than two hours ..you should never ever leave someone vulnerable like that alone ..I find that very irresponsible I wouldn’t be happy if someone left my Dad … alone for two hours …he was in his right mind but still being alone couldn’t walk very well to me The other two guys acted absolutely irresponsible …i hope He’s found ………….......🙏🏻💙🙏🏻🥲as for the 41 year old I really hope he’s found to .it's such a shame its sad 😢…………………….kim🇬🇧

So tough… Praying for these families!

I don't trust law enforcement in these missing people cases. My friend went missing and they brought in dogs, cops, dnr, a planes they found nothing and acussed me of foul play because the dog would go in the woods to his blind and come back out to the road on the trail and his bow was hanging on the first step of his stand so they said he wasn't in the woods. The next morning my friend walked out of the woods a few miles away and said he slept in a tree all night because he was scared of coyotes. He had shot at a deer and walked off looking for blood and got lost.

@slatsgrobneck7515

2 жыл бұрын

I believe you. Always when the lost person walks out or is found in a bizario place - there is a plausible explanation of how they got there. And t never involves portals, whatever those might be.

1st guy was 86 years old? Dam!!! Aliens must have got him ,I doubt he ran away,or walked.

84 missing in the mountains... I can think of worse ways to leave this world. His body is probably not too far, they just haven't found it.

@Abandoned_Brane

2 жыл бұрын

@John hotz where I do my backwoods hiking, in the beartooths, a young woman went missing this summer. They did a massive search for her, nothing. A couple of months later some hikers found her, a bit of her backpack was showing. She got buried on a landslide. They searchers covered this area several times. A small bit of her backpack was showing through the rocks.

4:00 "searched a large area of over 30 yards"??? Is that a mistake because that is definitely NOT a "large area"? That is a very very small area!! Did you mean a large area of over 30 KM because 30 YARDS just doesn't make sense?

It's so strange that when these people go missing all of a sudden really bad weather rolls in, it must be so so hard when your loved 1 is missing like that

How could you leave an old man 86 years old alone by himself ? They should of been charged with senior neglect/abuse 🤔

@henryherman9113

2 жыл бұрын

I agree so much..I would never leave an Elderly person at his age alone..I am 68 yrs old dont like to go hunting alone anymore you just never know what could happen.

@christinemeleg4535

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly!!!

@cweefy

2 жыл бұрын

They didn't abandon him. In hunting situations like this you usually place hunters in strategic spots ( usually the older ones) and the rest go further out and back track to drive the elk towards the guys in those spots.

Great narration, with good flow of facts, and intricate details. Also, few would, or could match the empathy, and heartfelt best wishes for the family and friends of these folks as Bryan does. Much kudos and appreciation. These tragedies could happen to any of us, or someone we love.

These stories are so sad and you are so considerate thanks for ur effort we appreciate it

3:54 _"we searched a very large area of over thirty yards..."_

@christinemeleg4535

2 жыл бұрын

The terrain there is extremely steep and very heavily wooded, but that size makes us wonder if that was a mistake, maybe three hundred yards???

Such awful incidents on such amazing backdrops.

Great work as always. Very sad but hopefully one day they will be found.

These stories have always fascinated me, so many strange and bizarre things happen in remote rural areas and in national parks. Makes you wonder whats out there.

@christinemeleg4535

2 жыл бұрын

What is out there are people who overestimate their capabilities, go into the wild underprepared and alone. That equals missing , dead people, hypothermia starts when the temperature drops to fifty degrees, the person becomes listless, confused, then deteriorates from there, perfect subjects for predation, missing bodies and gear are because predators pull the dead to a cache site, bury it and then consume it leasurely. there aren't any aliens,weird government agencies or sasquatches. just people overestimating what they can do , then wandering off into the wilderness. and succumbing from their own foolishness. Look at the first case,86 years old, can't walk far, yeah real smart, chances of a good outcome? Zero.

@trance1986

2 жыл бұрын

Yeti

Great content, keep up gd work

Albi was age 86. Being elderly there’s No way he walked away! Especially as he had Agreed to be there (where they left him) in a few hours. AFTER WATCHING several hundred of these missing person’s videos, I’m beginning to agree with the theory that - located in the untouched wilderness of the world - there are dimensional doorways that move around. These can open and close . I couldn’t say what kind of intelligence uses them - or why, for what purpose I don’t know. But there’s no other explanation for many of these disappearances. There’s a lot we don’t understand about this Earth. However I agree it’s time for us to know everything about them. I object to people being taken away and either never returned or their lifeless body being returned sometime later. The suffering of their families, friends and communities is unbearable and we need this to STOP AT ONCE

@heidiboggs8635

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with you. And a rift or doorway could also be the cause of these storms that move in.

@JamesMichael333

2 жыл бұрын

Thats one possibility of many possibilities

@hahahahahahahahahahahahaha7725

2 жыл бұрын

DARPA.

@henryherman9113

2 жыл бұрын

@@hahahahahahahahahahahahaha7725 Hope it dont happen to you.. or a loved one..

@phyllisburris7093

2 жыл бұрын

Since when does any 86 yr old man listen to others? They will do whatever they want! Maybe he shot himself & committed suicide?

Thanks for sharing

Captivating stories! Both of these stories coincidentally, involve the presence, even if shortly, of another person. A person “close” to the vanished. Huge searches, technology, and yet, not one piece of evidence, not a fabric, rusty knife, ripped orange vest, soggy gear, nothing. Gear and human remains were even found of the Great Bart Schleyer, and Schleyer roamed places that would have made Davy Crockett nervous. It’s hard not to think that these two cases are somewhat bizarre and suspicious. Thoughts?

Got lost one day near brightenbush hot springs. Walked down a path. Turned around to realize I was totally lost on a game trail that vanished. After hollering for friends. Realizing no one could hear me and me not either. A prayer and the wind carried me back the half mile or so I was lost . 100 percent scared and lost my mind had to be called back from panic. Imagine panicked and lost

Bless your heart Brian. Hopefully the families and everyone involved in searching for both chaps get some answers Enjoy your Thanksgiving wherever you may be 🍀

@garyjones2335

2 жыл бұрын

i can tell you they were crap hunters

Thanks and you have a blessed Thanksgiving too

Dave Paulides, with MISSING 411, said that most people that carry a "Locator Beacon" with them in the woods, forest, mountains, etc... are rarely lost and come back home. I think something beyond a human being is abducting or killing these hunters and hikers.

It could be possible that Alvie didn't want to be found. As an avid outdoors person I've definitely had thoughts of disappearing into the forest just before I'm too elderly to pull it off. He may have felt something like a failing memory or tightening of reigns around his independence and it was time to go and made a plan. The only glitch with this plan is putting SAR and family at risk ... I don't intend to be the least bit callous. I recently spent two years seeing my elderly parents thru hospice. For me it was full of lovely rewards but to the elderly person they've seen friends and family become what appears to be a burden. There's a fierce sense of independence to hold onto and this could be the ultimate control of that. In other tribal cultures it is an option. It's still not off the table for me as a retirement plan before I start forgetting family names or putting both legs in one side of me undies ...and I know of others with this idea as well.

@2ndhandSue

2 жыл бұрын

jane freeman - I've watched several videos of people who have done exactly what you describe. They've gone off an built a tiny home in a forest somewhere, learned to live on what nature provides in the area where they built, and they intend to stay there until they've breathed their last. It's their ingenuity that I find so marvellous!

@wagstag89

2 жыл бұрын

I can relate in the sense that I spend most of my free time alone in the outdoors year around and I do hope that's where I am when my time comes and I've also told my family that if I ever went missing take comfort in the fact that I would rather disappear in the outdoors and be laying out there somewhere than be buried in a cemetery.

@siggifreud812

2 жыл бұрын

another very feasible explanation. I seriously doubt that aliens or sasquatch abducted Alvie. too many drama-queens with huge imaginations posting here.

Am so sorry for the family and friends losses of their missing loved ones ... prayerfully someday the questions will be answered to what happened to them.

Hey Bryan I really enjoy your videos. Thumbs Up Indeed and I sub Have a Blessed day

I am a new subscriber. Thank you for such interesting content.

So very sad 😞. Thanks for sharing 😉.

Why would one being 87 yrs old go hunting and why would any “responsible hunter” invite a 87 yr old and then leave him alone. Idiots.

Cool video happy thanksgiving from Alabama

Have a Happy Thanksgiving yourself Bryan!!

Keep practicing you got it bro . Great video

With all the rain, could a tree have uprooted and fallen on Shawn? He's there, just not were they expect. No one thinks of taking a peek under a fallen tree or boulder. These hunters & their families have my prayers. Thank you for another informative video.

Yeah, yeah, crazy, crazy I know. Say whatever you want till you see for yourself. Born & raised, hunted & fished, horsepacked into wilderness in western Colorado and have seen ufo phenomenon twice and so did 2 friends w me.

This is a carbon copy of the Tom metrics disappearance.. why these friends or family leave these elderly people by themselves is very hard to understand

This many people going missing in US national parks is difficult to understand. We have many national parks in Europe also, but nothing like this happens in this magnitude. National parks in US and Canada are huge compared the ones in Europe though, I mean there is big difference. Hunters dont go missing here either atleast no news station reports news like that really. It would be a rare occasion.

@flipsy9187

2 жыл бұрын

It happens in Australia too apparently.... Scary

I've been in both of those areas. I probably know the Bear Camp area better than anyone. It's beyond rugged, you really can't even understand it until you've been there. Lightning fires at Wayout Saddle, tree planting all over that area. Hunters tend to get tunnel vision and are driven by adrenaline, look up after hiking for an hour and in rugged county you can easily be 10 miles down the hill and have no idea how you got there. My style is to carry flagging, tie a ribbon here and there, turn around and look where I came from to make returning easier. It's very normal to leave a man behind or drop someone off to hike down to the next road. I'd have searched to the river in the Bear Camp case and at least 25 miles downhill for the old feller.

@peterguirguess853

Жыл бұрын

Did u find him?

Bigfoot can be a danger for hunter or hiker. Those creatures have abilities which are high above ours. Greetings! 💙🐺

There's a story about a guy and his son who went hunting in Josephine County, Oregon, and at least the Dad was never seen again. I can't remember any details at this moment, if I can come up with names, I'll pass them along. Was in the Coastal Range, I believe in the Bear Camp area (known to locals as notoriously sketchy, for a variety of reasons), or Peavine, which is nearby. Strange story.

@MrRugercat45

2 жыл бұрын

Could I ask you why exactly is the area considered sketchy? Anything strange about the area?

@jerrymoore838

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrRugercat45 Illegal pot grows

@PhoenixRisen63

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrRugercat45 Illegal grows. Mining claims. Bad roads...skinny, sharp corners, steep ravines. More than one person has gotten stranded in the snow for days up there. One family followed GPS and got lost in a snowstorm, Dad tried to walk out for help and died of hypothermia.

@MrRugercat45

2 жыл бұрын

@@PhoenixRisen63 probably more than one got too close to an illegal grow and was never seen again. All the more reason to go armed.

Thanks bry and have a happy Thanksgiving lil bro and party on dude NY ses hey bro