This wasn't a saving your disaster battle. This was a One Man Doomstack showcase.

@versok2999

Жыл бұрын

Two men doomstack, Kholek and his buddy the shadow sorcerer.

@millerrepin4452

Жыл бұрын

@@versok2999 My headcanon is that Solek and shadow sorcerer high fived after that battle.

@andregon4366

Жыл бұрын

Came here to say that. BTW 69 likes. Nice.

@danieldeanhodge

Жыл бұрын

@@millerrepin4452 They did and that is why the Shadow Sorcerer no longer possesses hands.

@Woodrow512

Жыл бұрын

​@@millerrepin4452 Kholek is so massive the sorcerer probably didnt even need to land for the high five

Good thing for dwarfs is, that after the battle they can scoop up all their flattened kin and used them as a new pages for Book of Grudges

@tauIrrydah

Жыл бұрын

RoFLMAO

@vaggelisv.8273

Жыл бұрын

ΗΑΗΗΑΗΑΗΑΗΑΗΑΗΑ

@hellosir6627

Жыл бұрын

Thorgrim wouldnt have to write the grudgin in the book, those pages would be the grudgin themselves lol

@Mookee1914

Жыл бұрын

that was so good! hahaha

@roarwestby3861

Жыл бұрын

LOL ! n1 ;)

Dwarfs: *Have expert charge defense* Kholek: "Oh no! Anyway"

@honkworld9405

Жыл бұрын

It's not like Kholek needs the charge bonus anyway lmao

Kholek dragging Thorgrim around in his wheelchair like a good grandson

@JustSome462

Жыл бұрын

Ironic since Kholek is one of the oldest characters in the setting

@TheCJRhodes

Жыл бұрын

@@JustSome462 and his daddy is a mother fucking mountain

Legend will probably refuses to admit it but the control groups mechanic carried this battle.

@BLACKLIMA

Жыл бұрын

lol

@amilitarymind

Жыл бұрын

😂👌

@jamaneee

Жыл бұрын

The AI was too afraid of the control groups to attack

8:48 "This is disgusting." Truly, the highest possible praise from Legend.

@aceous99

Жыл бұрын

lol

sometimes you win a disaster battle so easily it makes me wonder if the submitter just wanted you to see their LL being op

@KamikazKid

Жыл бұрын

Up until the patch a few days ago that changed the mass of some units this probably would have been a rough fight and Kholek would have been easier to bog down.

@pepparmostheelder

Жыл бұрын

@@KamikazKid Not really. It changed the mass of some cav units but not kholek or dragon ogrs, trolls etc etc.

@BillyLndn

Жыл бұрын

​@@KamikazKid kholek always had ridiculous mass. Nothing changed for him

@LandTorpedo69

Жыл бұрын

I think sometimes you can underestimate how strong some legendary lords can be.

@iain-duncan

Жыл бұрын

Submitter prolly didn't know how to use charge attacks properly

Imagine fighting a really angry mountain with an axe.

@HiddenEvilStudios

Жыл бұрын

A hammer, even.

@sauronplugawy3866

Жыл бұрын

​@@HiddenEvilStudios A WARHAMMER if you will

@gunslingerspartan

Жыл бұрын

​@@sauronplugawy3866 a Total Warhammer 3, in fact

@sageer2585

Жыл бұрын

That’s too many charlemagnes, how about a nice mobile game?

@zankaa8031

Жыл бұрын

A 100+ speed mountain

A video about legend laughing like a child while running a toy horsey through little army men. Critics rave: 10/10, would enjoy again!

Tbf, out of all characters, Kholek deserves this mass. If they can’t make him big enough to look over the walls of Praag, then they can at least give him the more accurate mass he would have if he could gosh darn it!

They really made Wind of Death into a playable lord

This was not a disaster battle, it was just Legend committing war crimes!

@Imperium83

Жыл бұрын

They're only war crimes if you lose.

@slaaneshshewhothirst9136

Жыл бұрын

Eh, that’s what Chaos do.

I really feel like the AI in Warhammer 3 has been heavily predisposed towards sniping lords and heroes, even if it's to their severe detriment. Bring a large spellcaster like a River Troll Hag and watch the enemy ranged units trip over themselves to target her.

@darksidecookies2145

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I thought that was odd. I've had battles where smaller characters, sometimes not even on mounts, will get shot at while in melee. And with as big a target as Kholek is, the Organ Guns and Irondrakes should have been shooting him the whole battle. I don't know if it's because they were "stuck" in melee and their skirmish AI didn't kick in?

@kohlenkurt3155

Жыл бұрын

Its more of a distance thing. The enemy was so far away from his other troops that the AI prioritzed kholek. On a smaller map this might have looked different.

@colbunkmust

Жыл бұрын

@@kohlenkurt3155 even on smaller maps if the general is a decent distance away they will try to snipe characters and mostly ignore the rest of the army. In some cases while being shot by your own artillery... it's been that way since the last DLC was released.

@filipstojanovic8286

Жыл бұрын

​@@kohlenkurt3155 oh they do i jzst downloaded warh 3 and im just looking elsewhere for amin and their whole army is focusing my hero for no reason😊

@ArkhonXIX

Жыл бұрын

Isn’t that the truth. How many times their ranged units ignore my infantry and snipe my caster sitting behind my lines. It’s fucking obnoxious

"Kholek Gulliver's travels in the lands of the Dawi"

Love the after battle "well I can't win THAT one, that's bloody ridiculous" 😂😂😂

Kholek did so well the rest of the world was like "ah shit, we better peace out"

@amilitarymind

Жыл бұрын

LOL. That gave me a good chuckle

This went from SYDB to one man doomstack real quick.

in my greasus campaign, stonehorns have like 14,000 mass and I didn't know how powerful that is until now. I just thought it was neat but now I know that can be potentially very very good. Thanks legend lol

@DIEGhostfish

Жыл бұрын

From something Greasus gives them?

@michaeldecker3728

Жыл бұрын

@DIEGhostfish greasus campaign effect increases unit mass for all units faction wide, I think it's 15% or more not sure. But that combined with pre-battle feast increases it more, making it roughly 14k, also for the Hunter heros.

@awellner3285

Жыл бұрын

Grail knights got more mass now, combined with the triangle formation they act very funny. I easilly get 600 kills per battle with a unit of grail knights.

Lore accurate Kholek can't hurt you he's not real Lore accurate Kholek:

Very Big and Fast Kholek Smashing at Insane Speeds

He's a big boy.

@ElBandito

Жыл бұрын

Thorgrim: SHORT?!

@honkworld9405

Жыл бұрын

@@ElBandito That's going in the book.

@Ztygs

Жыл бұрын

For you.

@quint3ssent1a

Жыл бұрын

He ate well when he was a little ogre.

I think this is very lore accurated

Jesus, that was like watching a semi truck drift through a playground.

I think the video's title should be: "The Grudgemower 11.000" hahah the suneater goes brrrrt

Kholek: "Okay you guys hold back here in the woods to protect yourselves from their missile attacks. I'll take the wizards out and soften them up." *Five minutes later* "Okay good fight we really stomped them this time."

Honestly this battle is a true testament to how B A D the A.I is.

@Lones555

Жыл бұрын

I really enjoyed the Dwarfs using all their satchel charges on their own men 👍

@user-ox7ob6fm7e

2 ай бұрын

Dwarf-things are secretly skaven yes-yes!

This is another demonstration of how you don't have to use your full army in battles, for those who are new to the channel. If you have powerful single-entity units, they can be sufficient to do the entire battle by themselves while the rest of the army can be reserved to keep your Balance of Power high, giving the enemy an early Army Losses penalty.

@guyincognito1406

Жыл бұрын

Can also keep the army small to entice the AI to engage with weaker armies too. And if you want to eliminate them down to the man so they don’t retreat to a garrison then withdraw your forces (slow trickle never huge waves) to balance their losses so they’ll stay to fight down to the last.

@settratheimperishable4093

Жыл бұрын

​​@@guyincognito1406 would say it's more efficient in that case to have heaps of really fast units in reserve, perhaps a large number of warhounds, so as to block and kill all of the enemy's routing units.

"they were blown away as if they were Skaven" Now THAT is going into the book.

Turned into a dwarf disaster battle real quick 😂

When people talk about the AI acting differently in your battles, they mean things like the flying shadow and metal wizards being completely ignored while hovering over the entire combined army.

@honkworld9405

Жыл бұрын

Yeah mine get instantly targeted too.

@tunemaki_izlasitrlv6835

Жыл бұрын

On harder battle difficulties AI ranged units doesn't shoot small flying entities. On normal and easy I think they do.

@lordlightskin4200

Жыл бұрын

@@tunemaki_izlasitrlv6835 ngl I play on very hard I’ve noticed ai just blob up even archers. Idk what they broke cuz wh2 ai 100% would shoot your ass till you died

You know shit got serious when Legend is using *SEVERAL* control groups!

Lawnmower defeats two 2 dawi stacks with the help of his spooky friend

@aceous99

Жыл бұрын

manlet mower

I'm really glad you're back with steady saving disaster battle uploads, i hope you're enjoying it

This was beautiful. Thank you. 😮❤

It would have been great to see the sorcerer's final damage amounts

@tauIrrydah

Жыл бұрын

1K kills at least.

Its videos like this that want to make me play certain factions

This tactic is absolutely impossible to excute in WH2 because the enemy will just pepper you with missiles but in WH3 missile units just join the melee It is so ridiculous

@aceous99

Жыл бұрын

so dumb

@settratheimperishable4093

Жыл бұрын

Except they did pepper him, he was just a) running through them and forcing them into melee and b) because he was running everywhere he also dodged almost all of them.

@erikblomgren592

Жыл бұрын

@@settratheimperishable4093He didn’t dodge Jack shit, and you can’t dodge much of them, only extraordinarily slow or extraordinarily long range projectiles (fire, catapults). The ai also just stops trying to run it’s ranged units away after you get them into melee once. It’s very inefficient and this strat would suck against a decent ai.

@settratheimperishable4093

Жыл бұрын

@@erikblomgren592 did you not see the projectiles going where he was half a second ago? It was extremely obvious.

Gigantic 11,000 stone monster flattens dwarfs, attributes victory to insane bulking regimen.

The dwarfs are gonna need to create a book just for Legend

this should go into the book: F=ma

the new entity mass changes coming into play. At least they're making cavalry and large units make sense now, it never made sense why a unit of dwarves (yes i understand they have expert charge defense but their individual mass is tiny) could withstand a charge from something like a T Rex. It literally doesn't matter how stout you are or how well you can take a charge if the thing that's charging you can literally just step on you and squash you

@fish5645

Жыл бұрын

It would make more sense if mass had tiers, dwarves should withstand a charge from other infantry and small demons every time but monsters should be on a higher tier which just makes it impossible. That way perhaps even giants could walk through battle lines (AS THEY SHOULD) and be somewhat useful for their size. Same goes with large monsters of other races.

@sageer2585

Жыл бұрын

Tiny? That’s going in the book.

@janedoe4929

Жыл бұрын

@@sageer2585 The book is also small. 😳

@choronos

Жыл бұрын

@@sageer2585 Small book for a small Dawi.

@booradley6832

Жыл бұрын

No, it makes sense for one very clear reason: The game has to happen.

"What you doing with all that Mass ? Double-legged up, on a Sunday afternoon..."

Holy crap that looked like a fun battle! Amazing!

Really good point you made there about the forest. I think I was one of those people that didn’t want to put my monsters in the forest before.

@erikblomgren592

Жыл бұрын

It’s a dumb mechanic imo. Missiles should travel between trees fairly easily; monsters are much bigger and therefore can travel between trees… even more easily than tiny projectiles?

@ecargfosreya

Жыл бұрын

@@erikblomgren592 I think the idea is that in battle archers don’t normally aim for a particular target but do valleys of arrows in the direction of the enemy and in that situation a lot of them would get blocked. I think the units like the wood elf archer units that get bonuses in the forest should have their missiles be able to not be disrupted by the forest, since there are more sniper archers. The equivalent to the Indians that fought the British in the French American war.

"Hi Legend, my army can't kill these dwarven armies." *Legend proceeds to win the fight without using his army.

And on this day Kholek earned his newest title "dwarf lawnmower"

Alternative title: Kholek destroys innumerable dwarfs with his GIRTH.

Normal difficulty would’ve been harder

@AnhurFT

Жыл бұрын

i usually play on hard battle difficulty, and both my heroes would be dead before kholek even reached the frontline.

@AnhurFT

Жыл бұрын

@@bogdanleshenko7149 I think the AI handles it differently on lower difficulties, for some reason, on highest difficulty it refuses to shoot the small casters, but on lower, as far as i have experienced, they will just turn every single ranged unit on one of my heroes randomly.

I feel this makes up for the way the kholek doomstack video went with the lack of chargethroughs, this is so therapeutic

Okay, going back on this... I just saw Battlesey's video and concluded that this isn't just Kholek. The reason this happens is the crazy mass + acceleration (and deceleration). Basically all cavalry and monstrous units with sufficient speed, mass, acceleration and deceleration can do this (including lords and heroes) and it's amplified if you have the Banner of Swiftness/Wayfarer. I just tried it myself with a CD Bull Centaur Taur'ruk against a random Tomb Kings small settlement garrison and I got 28K damage and 500 kills in just a few minutes. The trick is to just click on an enemy unit "behind" the units you also want to charge, as your unit will just charge through everything with low enough mass. This actually has the same vibe as OG Rome/Medieval Total War "charge through" mechanics. Holy cow, is this strong... and fun. I'm actually hoping that they keep this in. Yes, it's incredibly powerful versus infantry, but admittably... the game will be in a much better state if all units become OP in their own way and it's just a matter of timing your attacks. That's much more entertaining (and against players: more challenging) than playing the rock-paper-scissors with minor stat increases along the way.

6:36 Poor Thorgrim getting hosed with pieces of his men just before that monster whacks him. So good

"I move FAST!" You sure do buddy, and anything be damned that gets in the way

Viewer: Hey Legend! Can you help me with this disaster battle ? Legend: Sure i can rate your doomstack. V: But it's not a doomstack. L: Hold my beer! V: :O Audience: :O

Lore of death may be my favorite lore. Between the slow, scythe and pit of shades it just has something for every situation

Glad to see they implemented the Killdozer in TotalWar

A disaster battle indeed, that dwarfen tidal wave was killing

You can hear the astonishment in his voice when it works so well

Wow, I have no words. That was crazy!

"I've even set up my control groups" - the dissapointment in Legend's voive xDDDD

This reminds me of good old WH2 battles. Send my lord and wizards out, lord dives in, wizard goes nuts.

"I MOVE FAST". Yep, he truely does

I was watching that massive swarm at about 6:50 and just thinking how beautiful a skaven nuke would have been right there.

They are all clumped together like “kill him PLEASE!”

When Legend takes your hardest fights and most keenly laid plans and plays with them like toys....

Such a MASSterful performance from Kholek

All those stunties flying around^^

Lol, the CC read "legend of terrible here" when he zips through the greetings like that.

Did Kholek got any bug fixes recently? I once managed to vassalize 100ish AIs and Kholek grew so big I could not play him anymore. Each time a battle would have loaded the game crashed. I don't know if it was a feature or just the lack of my potato.

You can hear the excitement in Legends voice when he discovers a new flavour of cheese.

Hey legend what happen to that video "Gordaz Backstabber stronger on foot than mounted" I was interested in this one, (btw love Your videos).

I'm getting Skarbrand flashbacks seeing Kholek charge around like that.

When you accidentally make a doomstack but don't know how to use it, so Papa Legend shows you how

This is the most fun battle I have ever witnessed. My lord

This is how I win my battles vs. end game dwarves as vampires. Just put a tanky unit in the middle and pit of shadows :) Nice one

nice stroll in the battlefield

What a massacre of massive proportions from all that mass being massterfully deployed on those poor dwarves.

I could see him being a one man doomstack. Get perfect vigor on him and it’s gg. If he doesn’t stop in one area he won’t die at all.

@MrRawrCEO

Жыл бұрын

He did that once...sent Kholek against 4 armies of Tomb Kings Endgame Crisis and Kholek won.

@aaron9777

Жыл бұрын

@@MrRawrCEO with this type of mass?

@honkworld9405

Жыл бұрын

Perfect vigor and Sword of Khaine or other unbreakable.

@fosterbennington6405

Жыл бұрын

Kolek is an insane one man doomstack, absolutely wrecks single entities too when needed

MOVING QUICKLY, I MOVE FAST!

Legend, please make a video of you using the new grail knights. You always do things with the most efficiency, and I’d love to see how you use them now they have larger mass.

@GreenGrundle

Жыл бұрын

Put ‘em in lance formation and send em at any enemy in the game. That’s how you use grail knights now.

@DIEGhostfish

Жыл бұрын

@@GreenGrundle I am getting 600+ kill games with the Fay's starting Guardians against greenskin and skaven.

9:00 Jesus Christ, 11:00 Kholek and his wizards cause army loses with zero casualties on their side.

Dwarfs all running away while their high king gets beaten to death with a hammer. Lots of new Slayers today.

I usually main dwarfs and this just hurt my soul 😅 I don’t think there’s anyone left to put a grudge IN the damn book

"Welcome to your one man disaster stack with legend of total war"

Kholek out here playing dwarf soccer, like a goddamn ballpit for him

You forgot to rate the doomstack.

AI when they see a impossible to hold down lord and a spellcaster with amazing AoE spells: "Time to blob! And don't forget to send in the ranged units!"

in an alternate timeline, kholek is a wonderful sheepdog.

I did a similar thing in my recent Khorne campaign. Skarbrand has 6000 mass, add in a strider banner. A 3 full stack army? No problem, you only need one command, "take a walk."

the entire dwarven armed forces? or one big boi and his wizard? yeah... that's what I thought.

Dwarves? You mean screaming speedbumps.

This was a funny one to watch. Seems like it was almost a one man doomstack video

Them dwarves litteraly been stompeds.

I MOVE FAST - big boy

Fighting in forrests is a nurgle specialty.

"THIS IS GOING IN THE P H U C K I N G BOOK!"

Honestly I don’t think that mass is overpowered. What’s happening is exactly what should happen when an 80 foot tall monster runs through a group of 4ft infantry.

Watching it almost looked like Kholek was a sheepdog herding dwarves into a tight blob...

One Man Saving Your Disaster Stack.

Oh legend CA should make an honorary character for you in a faction of your choosing looking just like you 😊

@_argurios8253

Жыл бұрын

it would be in chaos or skaven then :^)

"I MOVE QUICKLY I MOVE FAST"