100mph Traxxas Slash - EPISODE #5 - SPEED TESTING The SLASH 4x4 On 4s With DBOOT HOONS WHEELS/TIRES!
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In this video I do some top speed testing on my Traxxas Slash 4x4 VXL dubbed the “100mph Traxxas Slash Project”. I test the top speed on 4s lipo with some newly fitted Arrma Dboot Hoons on-road wheels and tires.
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Cold conditions effecting the battery and servo and ur gun
Loose the deans plug for a xt90 or similar. Your main issue IMO is, it is way too cold. Lipo's can't discharge large amounts of current in cold temperatures.
awesome man its really cool to see all the different results
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 😉
Looks amazing bro
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
Despite all the #'s that were ran, this is just one more example of how Amazing the Traxxas Valineon System really is! (IMHO). I currently own some 'nice' Brushless systems, but usually default back to the VXL system for my 1/10 scale bashers. Even in non Traxxas vehicles! I know lots of people have had failures or burnt up VXL stuff, but a $10 temp gun, correct gearing, a strong motor fan go a Really Long Way! Not to mention giving the vehicle a cool down break here and there, but I know the last one is Really hard to do!
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah most people don’t wanna wait for the system to cool down. The VXL system has been pretty darn reliable for me. I don’t think it’s the best choice when gearing up though.
@Todd_G_FPV
3 жыл бұрын
All my vxl systems have been good except my vxl8s esc it went bad on day 26 so traxxas sent me a new one and I sold it for a max6 lol
@cartere9981
2 жыл бұрын
Even when i was a child I couldn't break the vxl3s lol they are bulletproof
@pug2451
11 ай бұрын
Out of the box that thing comes blazing hot…
Dang... wish I could help. Definitely will be many more upgrades. Good luck 👍
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yeah a lot more upgrades and mods to come
Keep trying you'll get it good luck👍😁
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. That’s definitely the goal!
Looking awesome
@RCKnockout
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
Looks good👍😄.
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 😉
nice job! big like! 👍👍👍
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 😉
EPIC Tires
Loved the video can’t wait to see the slash get pushed to the absolute limit but I really want an 🤜rc knockout🤛 sticker to slap on my rc. You should totally make some kind of merchandise I would definitely buy
@wyattuitermarkt5608
3 жыл бұрын
And quick question is the slash ur favorite rc cuz u seem to run it a lot
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
Another viewer asked me the same question about the stickers. I guess I didn’t realize there was a market for them. I’ll have to look into it
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
@@wyattuitermarkt5608 I think it’s my most reliable brushless rig. Most fun probably goes to the Xmaxx most of the time anyway lol 😂
@wyattuitermarkt5608
3 жыл бұрын
Niiiiccce and I also love how you respond to comments like this keep up the great work if you made something like stickers or something that would be absolutely epic and I would definitely buy. personally I think the hoss is better but that just what puts the biggest smile on my face 😂 and I guess it’s different for you
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
@@wyattuitermarkt5608 I try my best to. So your favorite is the Hoss over the Slash?
And wit the wheel situation that is true it is almost like a gear reduction because the wheels are smaller
Slightly smaller tires will effect your top speed. I think I would look for a different road too, that cement looks kinda rough
@RCKnockout
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I have a different road and a completely different setup now
Nice looking rc
@RCKnockout
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
You should try running 8s in it on a 8 scale motor because a 8 scale motor was the biggest motor i got to fit in mine
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
Lol. Jump from 4s to 8s? I like the way you think! 👍😉
@tonycope8155
3 жыл бұрын
When in doubt over power it and that's the best thing..the slash platform will take it.. besides the cv shafts and the center drive shaft.. everything else will take the power.. I run 8s on mine alot
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
@@tonycope8155 do you bash yours on 8s or mainly do on road driving?
@tonycope8155
3 жыл бұрын
@@RCKnockout I bash the truck on 8s
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
@@tonycope8155 surprising that it holds up to that. What gearing do you run?
Do you have a hobbywing programming card?? It defiantly woke my ECS up... My problem now is all the power wants to go to the front wheels..... fixed center diff comes in tomorrow!
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I’ve done a video on the hobbywing program card actually. I haven’t hooked it took this esc though. Throttle Punch and Braking Force are the main things that can be adjusted. There is only a few different programmable features available for the Redcat Esc. Nice! You’re putting a center diff in your slash?
@AVERAGEJOERC
3 жыл бұрын
@@RCKnockout because its a rtr hobbywing esc it limits the adjustability on the esc.. u need a smaller spur gear and larger pinion
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
@@AVERAGEJOERC I agree that it definitely needs to be geared up! 😉
Cool to see your road to 100mph, im also currently building up a slash 4x4 to try join the 100mph club. A few things i did differently is using xt90 connectors to handle the voltage and a HW 3200 combo as a starting point for my electronics. Unfortuanately up here in the frozen north will be a few months yet before i can test and run the build Im looking forward to seeing your journey
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. The weather isn’t that great here either lol 😂....good luck with your build and quest to 100mph! 😉
With the wheel hexes being bigger and larger rims and probably heavier denser tired you added more rotating mass and different contact patches witch would cause resistance
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
The tires are denser but I think the rotating mass is still probably less than with the trenchers
@calebsweeney8203
3 жыл бұрын
@@RCKnockout I see, maybe a slight difference in diameter? It was only a few mph difference,
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
@@calebsweeney8203 I lost 9mph so that’s more than a few mph lol 😂
Warm up the tires the roads ice cold...pre warm up..bring a 2s in hand before putting on the fresh pack
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
I think the temps were working against me quite a bit. I’m looking forward to more mild weather.
which hoons did you put on? the 2.9 ones?
@RCKnockout
Жыл бұрын
Yeah
Great video bro. Upgrades buddy.
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 👍😉
Time for a heated lipos bag. It's crazy how much difference it makes. Even if you have to keep it on you heater vent in the car but don't let it sit out while talking, it will get cold fast.
@RCKnockout
2 жыл бұрын
Never heard of a Lipo heater bag?
@Reecefpv
2 жыл бұрын
@@RCKnockout yep we use them for fpv in the winter. Check into it. Fill Lipos can seem like a dead lipo in cold weather. Even if though it isn't dead
@Reecefpv
2 жыл бұрын
@@RCKnockout I believe it's hobby king that makes 1 of the heaters that you power with a lipo.
@Reecefpv
2 жыл бұрын
@@RCKnockout I just use hand warmers In my pocket up against whatever lipo I'm about to use. It work way better if its close to 90degree
@RCKnockout
2 жыл бұрын
@@Reecefpv so I use a lipo to power the heater to heat the lipo? Lol
Smaller tires equal lower speed and more pulling power,taller tires equal higher speed less pulling power tires are just another gearessentially. essential
@RCKnockout
9 ай бұрын
Makes sense…more torque with smaller tires…more top speed with larger tires
Gearing is probably what is holding you back because mine will do 70 on 3s with the same tires and similar electronics
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
Interesting. What gearing are you running?
I didn't read all comments but your bigger tires are gonna have an affect on your speed. Is just like changing your gearing. For better or worse. Plus maybe they are heavier wheel and tires?
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
All good points 😉
Also take the side bumpers off. They extra weight
Yeah man, you need more volts! Not bigger pinion. You need two 3s my bud for 6s. What's your final ratio right now ? And your right about the tires, your other ones were ballooning at speed which increased your mph but the car will become more unstable as the speed increases.
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
I don’t wanna share gear ratio right now. It’ll give away too much information for future videos. Let’s just say more volts may have been applied and maybe the gearing has changed since then as well lol 🤔😂
@jetway1122
3 жыл бұрын
@@RCKnockout excited to see what speeds you get. But yeah use some sort of gearing app and put in a voltage that takes in effect drop you see under load.
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
@@jetway1122 agreed. I think you’ll start seeing us go in the correct direction from here
Just getting back to your videos after a long break from the hobby. Starting where I left off. 😅 I’m late guessing but uour lipo’s are too cold.
@RCKnockout
Жыл бұрын
Glad to see you back! Very late to the party at this point…this was probably filmed 2 years ago…no worries though lol 😂
@FEboats
Жыл бұрын
@@RCKnockout ha! I’ll continue watching for fun. I left running an infraction but I’m back with a vendetta. Just shy of 100mph myself.
@RCKnockout
Жыл бұрын
@@FEboats nice man! Yeah I highly recommend you continue watching..still some cool videos left in the playlist
I would try a pinion which is 4-5 theeth bigger if you want to run 4s. But the connectors pls no Xt90 is the way to go. Maybe the esc having a hard time pulling the current threw the little connector. Definitely you have to upgrade that connector A smaller spur gear will fit
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips. This video isn’t real time though. This was probably filmed a month ago. Real-time I’m going to be filming episode 11....Let’s just say 4s isn’t gonna cut it and we’re going way larger than 4-5 teeth bigger. Lol 😂..Stay tuned 👍😉
Hey man I don't know if you figured it out yet but I think some of your communication issues you are having in this video are due to your connectors gitting wet from the snow. I had the same issue, swapped out my servo, and then eventually swapped out ESC. Came to find out as soon as my plug's got wet that's when the issue occurred
@RCKnockout
Жыл бұрын
That might have been the case….I swapped this esc out quite a while ago though
Definitely Gear up and go to Bullets or IC5/EC5...That may help some. You will need a SMC or CNHL lipo.
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
I think you’re right about the connectors. Is SMC and CNHL Brands of batteries? I’m not familiar.
@rcpd3157
3 жыл бұрын
@@RCKnockout Yes. The SMC is used by some people I seen running very fast. The CNHL is what I use, I'm not fast but the lipo is awesome, and Innovation RC uses them. Definitely check them out.
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
@@rcpd3157 what kinda discharge rate are we talking? And how expensive are they?
@rcpd3157
3 жыл бұрын
@@RCKnockout The #CNHL is up to 120C and my 2s and 3s where around $35-45. It has Burst rate of 240C. You may want higher mAh...idk.....they have higher mAh with less Discharge....and less mAh and also less mAh....their budget series but still pretty good. I think SMC also has 120C. but not positive and they have the V2 Extreme that is Graphene and would be the choice of most from SMC. They have the DV series as well, IDK anything about them yet though. Brock Diesel will be reviewing them soon.
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
@@rcpd3157 that actually isn’t too bad of a price. What plugs are you running on yours?
How did you mount that receiver box to the front like that?
@RCKnockout
2 жыл бұрын
Just screws right on
@ZeuZLoD
2 жыл бұрын
@@RCKnockout Yea I didn't know the screws were under the receiver box lol. But yea it fit right in, only to find out that the VXL 4s does not fit on the Slash 4x4 Ultimate lcg lol.
@RCKnockout
2 жыл бұрын
@@ZeuZLoD the VXL 4s out of the Traxxas Maxx?
@ZeuZLoD
2 жыл бұрын
@@RCKnockout Yessir! Switched to 6s on the Maxx and figured I would try to put the 4s into the Slash 4x4 Ultimate lcg.
@RCKnockout
2 жыл бұрын
@@ZeuZLoD yeah the 4s in the Maxx is a huge esc so that’s not surprising that it doesn’t fit lol…
what Hex-Adapters do you use?
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
The Traxxas 17mm
You got 48.2 mph becoz, these dboot wheels are of a less diameter. So per revolution the distance travelled is less, thus speed is less. It needs a substantial amount of gearing up, if you are using this motor. If you use a motor of a higher kv , you may not need to increase the gearing that much.
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah you’re right! Ideally I wanna try to keep this motor in it so gearing it up is definitely a must in my mind
Remember I told you before you gonna loss speed on belted 😂. Gear up and used a 6s. I do also speed run before on my 3s vxl got a top speed 67 on 21/54 on a stock tire but on belted i loss almost 10 miles
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah this was filmed over a month ago. So most of the things people tell me don’t actually apply cause I’m multiple videos ahead. You’re definitely right though. I was super surprised by how much speed was lost though
@rcmtb1052
3 жыл бұрын
@@RCKnockout if you want more stable try proline flowtek body.
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
@@rcmtb1052 is it a short course body?
@rcmtb1052
3 жыл бұрын
Yes it is
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
@@rcmtb1052 nice I’ll have to look into it!
Those Wheels may weigh more than your last set, sounds like You have a tight gear mesh, and if you're looking for top speed gear up four or five teeth on your pinion.
@RCKnockout
5 ай бұрын
I’ve changed the setup since this video…it’s completely different now…I’m geared up quite a bit with a different power system
Gear up & 100c lipo or higher but dont leave out your front spoiler you will need to create a lot of down force running that body at 100 mph..
@RCKnockout
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip!
Hey rc knock out have you also tryed the beginner power setting I have noticed on 3 s not much speed difference but more control so that car on 4 s the hit power on launch should be better then give more power from there the blue tooth settings throttle some times less is more for arrodanimacs your going for top speed not drag race it should help to slow the power increase to max with out flip also gearing is not right
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure what you’re referring to? The throttle punch?
Buddy, trenchers are not belted so when go 30-40 mph+ they balloon effectively increasing your top speed , with the belted tires this doesnt happen because they dont ballon
@leroy5007
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly right
You’ll need a different body to go 60+ or they just take off to the air
@RCKnockout
2 жыл бұрын
Yep like a sail
What kind of motor you got in there?
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
2200kv axial vanguard
Fire , but yo your tires are on backwards those lil arrows on sidwall tell u
My stock Vxl motor on a wp sct max 10 esc with a 3s 7000mah 100c battery will do more… I’ve gotten 76 mph before I melted the plastic motor mount
@RCKnockout
2 жыл бұрын
Congrats on 76mph
Where did u get the wheel at
@RCKnockout
2 жыл бұрын
eBay…..dboot Hoons
Deans is rated for 60A, XT-90 has a rating of 90 Amps and EC5's are rated for up to 120 amps.
the cold weather can affect the battery
@RCKnockout
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it definitely does
Use Velcro for the batteries
taller rolling tire mass slow it down i use xt90 on all my cars alot better then deans and more gearing ebay has a mount that u can mount above the spur for a large pinion gear
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
Lol. I’m about to film episode 11 now. I have made a lot of changes since this video was filmed. I’ve learned a lot
Is it 3s also what is the gearing sour and pinon
@RCKnockout
2 жыл бұрын
I can’t remember what it was in this video….I believe I was running 4s in this video though
@mbfishing3807
2 жыл бұрын
@@RCKnockout ah cause I wanna get my slash converting to drag slash to do 80 on 3s
@RCKnockout
2 жыл бұрын
@@mbfishing3807 yeah this was 4s…..I’m not sure what gearing you’d need?
@mbfishing3807
2 жыл бұрын
@@RCKnockout ye idk
Gear it up
It's the tires you need to gear up because the tires don't balloon to get the higher gear from the tires
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
You’re absolutely right
Maybe warm the battery some. Low temps will reduce output
@RCKnockout
2 жыл бұрын
Very true….probably wait for warmer weather to do speed runs
I run a 25 to pinon of 52 spur and I'm getting right at almost almost 55 to 60
@RCKnockout
4 ай бұрын
Is that with the 3500kv motor?
If the temps are low up the tooth of the pinion becuse you are runing smaller tyers
@RCKnockout
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip! I believe I’m running a 34t pinion on it now
And if it's only 15° out those lipo batteries are not discharging at their normal rate
@RCKnockout
5 ай бұрын
That’s a valid point
The trenches are way taller especially when they expand you need a bigger pinion wit those street tires lol
@RCKnockout
4 ай бұрын
That’s true
Big pinion and smaller spur for speed with lower kv
@RCKnockout
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I’m running a completely different power system and gears now
what size are the tires????!??
@RCKnockout
10 ай бұрын
2.9
The driveshaft wobble on these cars is beyond crazy...traxxas needs to fix it
What tires exactly?
@RCKnockout
10 ай бұрын
Dboot Hoons 2.9
Maybe you have to gear up for the hoons.... does looks cool
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I did have to gear up quite a bit. That video was a few months ago so a lot has changed since then
I’d say weight reduction take things that are heaven and change it for lighter parts hell the battery is the heaviest thing on the car
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
In some ways I feel like more weight might be more beneficial because one of the issues with the slash is the parachute/sail effect especially once you get going over 50mph
Gear up. / Tire size
Better to volt up then gear up!
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
I think both means “more speed” lol 😂
You probably have to lower it somehow so its lower so its gonna be better
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah lowering it probably wouldn’t be a bad idea
tbh no hate but im slash 4wd stock with a traxas 3 cell can do the same speed if not faster. try the pinion and spur change. then i would go from there... not much more at that point.
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s slower than with the high speed gearing actually. I’ve done a lot of changes. Stay tuned 😉
Mine does 59 stock vxl and street tires
@RCKnockout
2 жыл бұрын
Nice! What gps do you use?
@nolacross704
2 жыл бұрын
@@RCKnockout i use a radar gun
@RCKnockout
2 жыл бұрын
@@nolacross704 I gotcha
Gearing and motor kv
gearing bro!!!!! if its staying cool up the gearing
@RCKnockout
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s been staying pretty cool….I’ve upped the gearing quite a bit since then
Tires look like 2.2 you should look up 3.8 they will give you a higher top end but put more stress on everything
@RCKnockout
2 жыл бұрын
These aren’t 2.2s…….they’re 1/8th scale 3.0s….3.8 not gonna fit under the body either
@jerridmiranda9557
2 жыл бұрын
@@RCKnockout do the 3.8 hit your body? And my bad for all theses questions and statements
@RCKnockout
2 жыл бұрын
@@jerridmiranda9557 no worries….3.8 are monster truck size tires….I’d definitely have to cut the body a ton and have wheel extenders to have any chance for them to fit on a Slash…..most Traxxas Slash “Monster Truck” Builds run 2.8s which is about the largest tire that will fit under the body….the body mounts also will have to be lifted to clear those tires
@jerridmiranda9557
2 жыл бұрын
@@RCKnockout thanks for all the info I will check to see if I'm running 2.8 I haven't messed with my rc for about 8 months
@jerridmiranda9557
2 жыл бұрын
Can you run a dubble motor/ esc
What tire are thoose
@RCKnockout
Жыл бұрын
2.9 Arrma DBoot Hoons
@Its_Slayer81
Жыл бұрын
@@RCKnockoutthank you
@Its_Slayer81
Жыл бұрын
Are these fine for street use
@RCKnockout
Жыл бұрын
@@Its_Slayer81 yeah
Im guessing you lost speed because the new tires arent swelling up like the old ones.
@RCKnockout
Жыл бұрын
You might be right about that
🤔 You are running a 1/8 scale motor/esc in a 1/10 car it goes with 6s power not 3s or 4s. I have the first generation erevo Vxl 6s system in my slash and if it had wings it would definitely take off , can’t keep it planted.
@RCKnockout
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s hard to keep it grounded
LOL i feel bad for u bro I’m runnin like 75mph+ with a velineon brushless on a 2wd with a 3s 😂 try another pin gear
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
Lol. You’re right. Do you got the 75mph gps recorded? It’s not easy to get a Slash to 75mph
@sk1p.b
3 жыл бұрын
@@RCKnockout no ive ran it next to my car and before I hit 80mph it had flipped over and I do want to buy the go’s recorder but it’s a bit out of my pocket as of right now I will eventually do a video on my upgrades and such :D
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
@@sk1p.b was that with the stock slash body on?
The Deans connector isn’t helping. Not hurting that much either. The ridiculously long motor wires are really, really not helping and look silly.
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
Ive addressed all of those issues
The tires are a gear to.
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
For sure! 👍😉
Get something above 3200kv for sure....maybe 2800kv...just depends I guess....on 4s
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
I think this motor can get me to 100mph. At least I’m pretty sure 🤔
@rcpd3157
3 жыл бұрын
@@RCKnockout It may, I hope it does! That would be awesome. You have it pretty smooth. Great passes you did there. Even with losing the speed. That thing is moving.
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
@@rcpd3157 thanks! I appreciate the encouragement! 👍😉
@rcpd3157
3 жыл бұрын
@@RCKnockout have you seen HardCore RC? He is getting the Big Rock to 100 mph! I know he has been past 75 mph. It can be done. You will get it. Enjoy the process and have fun.
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
@@rcpd3157 I don’t think I have. I’ll have to check out his channel thanks!
I'm 3 years late but your tires are not I stalled correctly. There directional and are supposed to go on all in the same direction. Each 2 pack comes with one each of left and right so you need to buy 4 at all times kinda lame but ehhh
It’s your tires
It’s concerning that you needed a calculator to do 15x2200 💀
If tires ballon thats increases top speed
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I’m very surprised it cost us 9mph though
It be tires
It's your gearing
LOL it goes faster stock😭💀, you need 8s and a better connector system like xt60
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think xt60 is gonna cut it. You’re right I was pretty disappointed by the speeds I got
@jrc-fabs1634
3 жыл бұрын
Xt 60 will be fine if it’s through 2 connectors haha, they can handle 6s on one
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
@@jrc-fabs1634 xt90 would probably be a better option for that amount of voltage though
@Todd_G_FPV
3 жыл бұрын
Xt90's would be way better they run 90amps continuous and the xt60 are only 60 amp continuous
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
@@Todd_G_FPV I’ve gone beyond that lol 😂
Yeah u just need way higher gearing
@jaysonflores3610
3 жыл бұрын
Cause the motor u have rn is rated for more torque compared to the velinion motor
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
@@jaysonflores3610 you’re right for sure! 😉
Need a new motor
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
I think the motor will get me to 100mph
Your gear is still so cold, you could be more aggressive with your gearing
@RCKnockout
2 жыл бұрын
Gear it higher?
Lipid too cold
@RCKnockout
Жыл бұрын
Yeah that might have been the case
You need different gearing
i think bad esc
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
Lots of contributing factors I think 🤔
You lost speed because those tires don't baloon
Click bait video
@RCKnockout
3 жыл бұрын
It’s a series to get to 100mph. Obviously I’ve got a ways to go but it’s not clickbait lol 😂