A suggestion, 10 villains that were actually the good guys in video games.

@gameranxTV

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion. Noted

@VongolaXZax

Жыл бұрын

@@gameranxTV I'll be waiting

@T1NF01L

Жыл бұрын

I'll start. Big Boss in MGS.

@ColtsBuddy

Жыл бұрын

@@T1NF01L Or the Boss

@vincenzusgaming

Жыл бұрын

Or game protagnists who are secretely the villains in video games.

I loved how Airy’s wings would change each time you destroyed a crystal, almost like like a sick twisted countdown. And if you ever refused to destroy any crystal after the first you could trigger the final battle early.

@timothyott6281

Жыл бұрын

If you overcharged a crystal a bit after she said stop she'd berate you in a very not good guy way

@harrimat100

Жыл бұрын

I started to notice it on the "2nd" play through. When the backstories started showing up for the asterisk bosses, started feeling bad killing them. Like the Monk and White Mage, they were an item and very nice people and you just off them.

@mikepappas519

5 ай бұрын

When the title changed, my flabbers were ghasted

Gaunter O'Dimm is the best version of this imo. You randomly talk to him in the opening quest, and then he does actually appear as a random NPC throughout the game. Then in the DLC he's revealed to be this wildly powerful demon that traps people into curses

@TheThreeHeadedDragon

Жыл бұрын

Demon? He's nothing so weak as a demon! He's G.O.D.

@KiryuZer0

Жыл бұрын

@@TheThreeHeadedDragon and i love that fact.

@ChristmasLore

11 ай бұрын

​​@@TheThreeHeadedDragon he's "a", G.O.D 🎋 (The Crones are likely old divinities too.)

@gavinziozios1431

11 ай бұрын

​@@ChristmasLoreThe Crones have nothing on him. O'Dimm is a force of nature. He cannot be stopped. Only stalled for a time

One for me was Wesker in the original Resident Evil. I think people forget that he was one of the STARS members with you to start with but obviously ends up being one of the main bad guys throughout the series

@BlackMoonHowls

Жыл бұрын

Lol how can people forget. "I wear my sunglasses at night."

@BlackMoonHowls

Жыл бұрын

Corey Hart 1982.

@Claypidgeon162

Жыл бұрын

While Wesker went on to becoming the big bad of the Resident Evil series, I'll always remember him for getting offended when Chris laughed at the Tryant and whined at him to "Stop it!"

@arturobuitron6420

Жыл бұрын

@@Claypidgeon162 "Wesker, you're pitiful!"

Bravely Default, in my opinion, was one of the best and probably most underrated twists in a video game.

@0Winkleson0

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. I can understand why though the grind could be very repetitive but the juicy lore dumps and fleshing out of bosses/characters was a lot of fun. The bosses in the last act was a great time including the borderline unfair tower climb.

@BirdieImagineeBCH

Жыл бұрын

Love all the bravely games, genuinely one of my favourite series. I love how they love to put twists and stuff in their games.

@Dracnoral1987

Жыл бұрын

@@BirdieImagineeBCH Loved the twist in End Layer, I haven't played the second one yet though so I'm gonna have to stop looking through the comments before I get a spoiler lol

Lucy's betrayal was quite the shocker back then

@Betlejuse420

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I always thought her and Desmond would be a thing and continue that legendary assassin bloodline, and then that happened.

@ShisuiSama

Жыл бұрын

The actual reason was that Kristen Bell wanted a rise but Ubisoft refused and killed the character and than came up with that plot that’s the reason why no one saw this plot coming because it wasn’t planned

@emoforsen

Жыл бұрын

@@ShisuiSama yeah

@thejoker420xp

Жыл бұрын

@@ShisuiSama was about to post this.

@Ruypbf99

Жыл бұрын

@@ShisuiSama yup, still hurts after a decade

Actually, you can put both Airy AND her sister, Anne! Because the fairy that appears in the opening of the first game asking you to "stay til the very end" and also appears after the end credits saying "Oh, good job, you stopped my sister's evil plan!" is actually Anne. She basically makes you think that she is rooting for you to save the world from Airy and the dark god Ouroboros, and she is... but not for noble reasons! Turns out in Bravely Second, Anne was also in the service of a dark god, this time named named Providence. She wanted Airy's plans out of the way as they posed a threat to Providence which is why she approached the player for help. She also uses the villains for her own ends and had actually succeeded until the heroes go back in time to prevent Kaiser from abducting Agnes like he did in the beginning. Both fairies are master manipulators but Anne is the better one because she was able to manipulate even YOU, the player.

First one that came to mind was Atlas from BioShock. Turned out he was Frank Fontaine.

@SupERsNipAa327

Жыл бұрын

That was an awesome twist

@azidal3755

Жыл бұрын

A masterfully done reveal as well.

@xxreyoxx

Жыл бұрын

The Frank Fontaine twist still holds up

Ah man, i freakin love Heavenly Sword. Really wish that game gained more popularity.

@gameranxTV

Жыл бұрын

👆🏻

@dutch_asocialite

Жыл бұрын

What can I expect out of the game? I'm mildly interested and wondering if it's worth my time.

@keo528528

Жыл бұрын

It needs to be saved from the ps3. It released way too early in the ps3 life cycle when no one owned a ps3. It's at the top of my Blue Point wish list.

@Claypidgeon162

Жыл бұрын

@@dutch_asocialite It's a hack & slash game similar to "God of War" which, at the time, probably had some of the best acting in a video game, at least from the lead. I think the people who made it went on to make "Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice". If you're able to play it, I'd say it's definitely worth your time.

@giaiaspirit

Жыл бұрын

Well we got hell's balde Senua's sacrifice, from this, so I'm not too bummed about it.

The elemental dragon's betrayal in Chrono Cross blew me away. I just spent all of disk one helping them screw me over and had to spend disk two fixing it 😂

@qadashchaayah7485

Жыл бұрын

That what my choice for this list as well. What made is more shocking is that some of them you made friends with, (Fire Dragon God) some gave you important items that helped you on your journey (Water Dragon God giving you Ice elemental to free the lava in Mount Pyre) others got you out of jam (Sky Dragon God rescuing you when the Dead sea world started collapsing after you defeated Miguel) and ALL gave you Summons and Dragon Tears. So when the big reveal happened in Disc 2 that they was playing you the whole time, and used you as a pawn so that they can merge and become the Time Devourer, I was flabbergasted! 😱 Great game, btw.

@LeedleLee457

Жыл бұрын

I mean, FATE had to die anyway. The Dragons' enemy was FATE, who was also our enemy too. We were used, yes, but betraying us wasn't their main intention.

@sadie9728

Жыл бұрын

BUT I LOST HARLE. 💔

@qadashchaayah7485

Жыл бұрын

@@sadie9728 Yeah, that hurt me as well. She was one of the best black innate color characters in the game. (Next to Serge in Lynx's body) Hell, she was one of the best team members that joined your party.

@qadashchaayah7485

Жыл бұрын

@@LeedleLee457 My memory must be fuzzy, I can understand that FATE was the dragon's enemy. But how was he the human's enemy?

Master Miller from Metal Gear Solid turning out to be Liquid Snake was definitely a twist and shocker for me back in the day. Whole time he was assisting me only to trick me in the end.

@369codboy

Жыл бұрын

Liquid!

@ggalloway1

Жыл бұрын

MGS (as well as others in the series) are awesome at twists like that. Many times there are twists behind those twists.

The cab driver being Kaïn in Bloodlines is pretty much confirmed when you play a Malkavian. The unique dialogue option they get (working from memory here) in a specific conversation with the guy being an answer going something like "So... That mean you are...!" followed by mad laughter. And reading between the lines is enough to understand since basically only the father of vampire-kind causes that kind of obsession and awe in vampiric society.

@masteroak9724

Жыл бұрын

The game files who contain the driver models is aptly named Cain. But also, back in the days, the owner of the franchise disallowed the developers to use Cain himself, so officially he's not the one.

@OniFeez

Жыл бұрын

That, and the Malkavian vampire is scared shitless by him

@arcanumelite4853

Жыл бұрын

@@OniFeez malkavians are the coolest vampires IMO.... crazy ass insane vampires... that also see the truth in things but everyone just thinks they are nuts...

@witecatj6007

Жыл бұрын

The big thing I feel is that he was not the mastermind of this Coffin Farse, it was Jack. He really hated all sides of the typical faction fighting, and found a way to take them all down a peg or three, especially LaCroix. In some of the endings you get screwed over (Jack and the dynamite laden coffin for you and LaCroix, the Kuejin dumping you in said coffin off the coast of California). But this being VTM, that is part for the course of how some games can end in the tabletop game.

@Adraeth

Жыл бұрын

@@arcanumelite4853 They arguably are, at various degree. Contrary to all other vampires, who "die" during the "turning", they stay fully conscious. They see what's behind the veil, and that breaks their minds at the same time at it gives them clarity. So, they arguably are crazy. That's the truth leaving scars on the mind.

To me, Bioshock's Andrew Ryan was the biggest plot twist for me with the "Would you kindly" phrase. Blew my mind when I was younger.

@sumitgupta2618

Жыл бұрын

I was expecting it in the list

@ChristMetalMayhem

Жыл бұрын

I was expecting you to comment Mr. Alex, ever since my 1st "Would you kindly..." said to you all those years back.

@YojoDeezy

Жыл бұрын

same andrew ryan and revan are secret baddies i've reflected on a decade after i played those games

@dylanherron3963

Жыл бұрын

@@YojoDeezy I was 14 when I found out that I was Revan the whole time. Few have done the same since.

Devola and popola from nier got me. Doing missions for them throughout the game and turns out they're one of the main antagonist

@putt10000

Жыл бұрын

Nier should be in this list.

@Charlie-xu4fw

Жыл бұрын

Nier would've done what he did regardless of them though, thus dooming everyone so...

@Pendragon667

Жыл бұрын

Hmmm... actually i'd say The Watchers who opened the Portal in Drakengard 3 were the real villains. Or at least Nier who doomed Humanity in a seemingly selfish act. Devola and Popola were basically just following their programming and trying to protect what's left of humanity. If Nier hadn't defeated the Shadowlord, Gestalts and Replicants would've been fused back together (with humanity probably still being doomed because Replicants can't reproduce). Personally i don't think that there is a "true" villain in Nier: Replicants became self-aware, they got a consciousness of their own. At least to a certain extend. Now who has the bigger claim? The Gestalts over their Replicant bodies or the Replicants who just want to live (that question still divides players ^^) Devola and Popola were just inbetween all of that but i wouldn't say that they were the villains of the game.

The gas station attendant in Persona 4 is Izanami, a crazed god and the mastermind of the entire game. Secret final boss for the true ending.

@GReyn

Жыл бұрын

Persona 4, Good Ending & True Ending plot twist was quite shocking imo.. Adachi is sus, but u wouldn't suspect him unless u comnect all of the stuff, not to mention namatame suddenly pop ups at the end, this one mess with players.. While the attendant, that first headache was sus.. but first time playing, didn't think much of it.. There are hints, but still tho..

@writer_man5318

Жыл бұрын

Igor in Persona 5 was a better twist in my opinion.

@MagisterXII

Жыл бұрын

@@writer_man5318 Fair enough. Having played P4 first, I was suspicious because of the voice change and not surprised he turned out to be what he is. Same with Akechi, it was painfully obvious right away because of Adachi. They pretty much made the same two twists in P5, lol.

Kreia in Knights of the Old Republic 2 definitely fits this list - although I remember being quite happy I could fight her as I found her annoying from the start xD

@raeje

Жыл бұрын

Kreia was pretty sus from the beginning, though. It would have been more of a twist if she DIDN'T end up being evil.

Disappointed that Witcher 3 Gaunter O'Dimm isn't on the list. One of the first NPCs you speak with at the beginning of the game turns into what basically equates to the devil in the first DLC.

@TheNerdzerker

Жыл бұрын

Yes! Wanted to say this myself

@mrcoldman1515

Жыл бұрын

He's so cool

@jackpowrie3

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t say he overtly tricks you though; he’s pretty upfront about his intentions. You just misinterpret what he says. He’s literally the devil.

@TheNerdzerker

Жыл бұрын

@@jackpowrie3 not when you first meet him however. Before Hearts of Stone, he's just the one guy who actually wants to talk to you in White Orchard inn.

@benrichards35

Жыл бұрын

The Witcher 3 secret villian i thought of was the girl in the tower of rats.

Solas from dragon age inquistion and Lucy from AC broke my heart I did not see it comming, I remember just googling why it happened because I was so confused and sad

@mikespike2099

Жыл бұрын

Lucy the perfect honey trap!!!

@Blitzkers99

5 ай бұрын

​@@mikespike2099Lucy actually loved Desmond,She was actually made as a Major Character that could have Lived with Desmond but Its about the Ubisoft contract and moreover they gave a Very shit ending to Desmond. The original character got a Trash shitty end,even he Couldn't escape the Trash Storyline of Ubisoft.

I was pissed the first time I completed Dark Souls, rekindled the First Flame, only to watch my character self-immolate in a five-second cutscene before it fades to black! I didn't realise that there was another possible ending. Circumstances have to happen just right to even meet his counterpart, Kaathe, who explains that the "Age of Dark" does not mean "evil", but rather is the Age of Man. The gods have shown to be nothing more than self-serving, so why sacrifice yourself for their ends? Every other playthrough since I simply walk away from the First Flame, and get a MUCH better ending. Frampt seems to repent, or at least acknowledges he's lost, when he, Kaathe, and all the other unnamed primordial serpents bow before you.

Airy was such a huge reveal. It blew my mind that this super fun 3DS game had such a cool villain.

Vampire The Masquerade is interesting, Vampires look for older vampires for sucking their blood, it's called diablerie, the older the vampire, more power you get when you drink. It is said, that Cain did this to see where to put his trust to go against the rise of the werewolves.

@ArcaneSorceror

Жыл бұрын

I thought it was Jack who tricked everybody. The cab driver is known to be Cain due to the filenames for his audio...

@BlackMoonHowls

Жыл бұрын

@@ArcaneSorceror They were just friends.

@raventhorX

Жыл бұрын

Not sure that's 100% correct. I think you got the process name correct but I was under the impression it would require you to drink ALL of the blood of the elder vampire gaining all of their power. In the roleplaying books this also results in yourself getting a unique aura that certain vampires can see which makes it also incredibly dangerous and its supposedly illegal in the vampire world, just as illegal as breaking the Masquerade. Drinking another vampires blood normally however without killing the "victim" would turn you into a ghoul I believe but I don't remember if it was only for humans, but I do remember that the vampire that does the drinking can also become enthralled to the one offering their blood as well, almost like mind control. I don't remember if vampire who do this will get an immense amount of power or not but I know humans who do see a drastic increase in their abilities, while still being mortal, almost like a super serum.

@CityStarrTx

Жыл бұрын

Jack is the one who tricked everybody and the sarcophagus did have an ancient vampire in it. If you play as a Malkavian and ask the right questions you find out the Cab driver is Caine

@RSProduxx

Жыл бұрын

​@@raventhorX 2 months late, but who cares? Yes, if you drink ALL of the blood of a vampire which is of a "lower" (older) generation, you´ll become a vampire of that generation and *might* get some of their powers if they´re from a different clan/ blood line than yours. also true is that you get a "tainted aura" from diablery, and vamps with a certain Auspex level can see that. But usually those marks go away after a while and very old and powerful vampires can potentially disguise their aura. The ghoul thing is basically correct, but that´s purely for humans. You can "bind" a vampire to you and make them submissive to you in a similar way (frequently letting them taste your blood). Contrary to ghouls, vampires could potentially withstand or even break that bond though. Damn, I kinda miss the WoD pen&paper times...Especially my books like the Book Nod and Encyclopedia Vampirica (had a signed one that the author gave us on a small convention... someone stole it -.-)

The twist with Airy still gets me. I love Bravely Default

Great topic. Immediately thought of “Atlas” from Bioshock.

@josephedge88

Жыл бұрын

I've been scrolling looking for this comment, cause brother, if you didn't say it.....I was lol

@BlackMoonHowls

Жыл бұрын

I genuinely cried.

I still remember the first time i saw that title screen from #1, and it absolutely blew my mind, still one of my favorite games to date.

@mikespike2099

Жыл бұрын

Great reveal 👍🏻

I remember having goosebumps when I saw the screen title change on Bravely Default. At the point I got it, you knew Airy was lying, but didn't know why nor what it was about. Such a clever twist and title play that it is the thing that makes me remember that game up until today.

The very first person I thought of was Double from Megaman X4. As a kid, he truly had me fooled and his transformation terrified me

Imagine a game that actually had dynamic story elements that affected the entire game and could play out differently every time you play through it. Like starting a game with several assistants, but one of them is randomly picked to become the main villain by the end of the game, or one of the big bad's key lieutenants defects to help you but it's random which one will do it. It would be like random events in game, but they actually have MAJOR implications and changes to the overall story. With just a few of things like this you could have over 10 different endings easily.

@str8ballinonyou

Жыл бұрын

Binary domain kinda did that a little,but I really like that idea being a fan of choose your own adventure style books.

@NottherealLucifer

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately in the modern gaming mark developers wouldn't be allowed to make such an awesome game because we'd all buy it and wouldn't need another game for like a decade.

@TBKSSS

Жыл бұрын

​@@NottherealLucifer nah, no one would do it because it's a very shitty concept in practice

@ShyBoy6ty9

7 ай бұрын

Heavy Rain was kind of like that. Depending what you do as certain characters, the story changes drastically, and there are several different endings.

The age of dark in dark souls (what comes if you don't link the flame) isn't inherently bad, its more, no one will know what comes next. The NPCs speak that its bad mainly because the age of dark is completely unknown to them and they'd much rather keep the status quo, even though the age of fire kinda sucks in its current state.

@gameranxTV

Жыл бұрын

👍🏼

@TheSteve_1992

Жыл бұрын

The thing is: the age of fire is the age of the gods while the Dark Age is supposed to be the age of the humans. So for you being human, prolonging the age of fire seems really contradictory. But then again look at those who tell you to do it: gods and their aquaintances

@NottherealLucifer

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, and in the original Dark Souls the First Flame had only been linked once. We know that by the time of Dark Souls 3 the countless linking have kept the Age of Dark at bay but the dark became more and more twisted each time it was fought back. Humanity stopped being the "chosen" darklings, they were replaced with the insect folk and their ilk. If the fire had been allowed to fade that first time the Age of Dark would have probably still been survivable for humanity. It was also the endless Age of Fire that caused the dregs of humanity to sink to the deepest depths of the abyss, which is implied to eventually lead to the Age of the Deep Sea that Aldrich dreamt of.

Bravely Second also has another important NPC showing up out of nowhere: the "savepoint" guy, since I really dont know what else to name him. He's just an NPC present before every major boss fights, allowing you to save and stock up on items before going in. It doesn't make any sense for a random merchant to just... be there, in a place crawling with powerfull monsters. But yeah, he sure can defend himself, and prevents the party to get their ass kicked by the final boss, and nobody expects it. It basically as stupid as if RE4 merchant was the one to throw a rocket launcher to Leon instead of Ada.

If you build another list like this one, include the villain from Vagrant Story, a gem of a game, really underrated. The villain is not who you think it is the whole game

Slightly disappointed General Shepherd isn’t on this list. Ghost and Roach dying in by his hand the way they did in the first MW2 was depressing.

Solas from Dragon Age Inquisition wouldve been a good one for this list

@sgtGiggsy

Жыл бұрын

Yup. Although, as far as I remember, his evilness revealed only in the DLC.

What about Shadow of the Colossus? The demon literally tricks you into killing the colossi so it can possess you and take over.

@Psookpy

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but you kinda pick up on that pretty quickly and you spend the remainder of the game depressed

@omdhdk

Жыл бұрын

But did he really trick you? He did warn about it not ending well for Wander if he went through with killing the collossis in the beginning of the game

@shoshonnie7796

Жыл бұрын

@@omdhdk eh

@JMObyx

Жыл бұрын

@@omdhdk and he did say "we have BORROWED the body of this warrior."

Heavenly Sword was such an amazing game. OMG, I should play it again.

I love the secret villains that are the ones you do missions with (so they’re a part of your squad/party/family etc) so it’s like you’ve been battling enemies with this villain through the game only for them to turn around and be like “yeah so I know you love me and all but now I gotta turn on you because I’m the actual villain, sorry” gets me everytime

Persona 4, the gas station attended. Literally the first person you meet who is responsible for kick starts everything in that game.

Norah from Child Of Light was a big one. Especially since you could waste a lot of time training her, only for her to betray your team and seeing all that effort go to waste.

@ziziorens348

Жыл бұрын

Yesss, it was so heartbreaking, not only for the story reasons (c'mon, she's our sister!), but for gameplay reasons as well. She's, like, the best control unit in the game!

I fully expected atlas from bioshock to be #1 on this list, a huge plot twist at the time that I certainly didn’t see coming. Definitely surprised it didn’t get a spot in this list for sure

Binary Domain and Alpha Protocol are such slept on diamonds in the rough 🤣. I appericate when they randomly pop up on list vids. I wish they both get proper remakes and sequels.

Officer Bullock is easily one of the most morally solid characters in Batman. Not the sharpest, but he knows his own heart.

airy also has her wings slowly changing. with each reset her wing pattern changes to match the number of resets shes been through. the fact she starts with 3 shows that at least 2 dimensions dont even have anyone left over, with 3 only having one survivor.

@mikespike2099

Жыл бұрын

WTF is that for real!!! Never noticed that!

@pulsefel9210

Жыл бұрын

@@mikespike2099 yep. Just open the menu after each reset

Great picks, and I would probably add Wesker from Resident Evil and Adachi from Persona 4, even though they aren't regular NPCs. Wesker is a no brainer, and Adachi actually kind of blew my mind when it was revealed he was the main villain. I know a lot of people say they already knew it was him, but I didn't 🙃

@gameranxTV

Жыл бұрын

👍🏼

@GReyn

Жыл бұрын

Same.. until i searched up for the different endings, i always picked namatame as the culprit.. back then, i thought he was just that one goofy side character.. After learning that he is the main culprit.. I'm still not fully convinced.. like, huh.. I thought the one who handled mayumi was dojima.. and i did6 know that saki was being interviewed..

@megamanXtrigger

Жыл бұрын

Persona 4's True Ending villian is an even more unexpected NPC

@GReyn

Жыл бұрын

@@megamanXtrigger i mean, each has a big hint.. Adachi having a connection to the first two being a detective, the letter sent to the house, and his over the top quirky behavior & facial expression (kinda sus).. but unless u really pay attention & connect the dot, u wouldn't find out, especially when namatame show up acting like a suspect.. Izanami on the other hand, has one huge hint, the first day MC arrived, after the handshake, he got a weird headache.. that is a big sus.. but because she only appeared once in the story, first time player would forget that character.. unless adachi is caught.. why? Because after he is caught, they characters have 1 weird question, how did they got their power in the first place..

@peaceandloveusa6656

Жыл бұрын

Wesker caught me by surprise when he turned out to be evil. I was thinking, "Wait, who even is this guy? Hunk was more important to the plot than him."

Aww man, the Vampire the Masquerade part brought me back. I literally shouted "WTF" when I first beat that game. Such a great twist to one of the best RPGs of all time.

@gameranxTV

Жыл бұрын

😅👍🏼

@w415800

8 ай бұрын

@@gameranxTV why everyone wants the sarcophagus? diablerie.

There was this guy in Megaman X command mission, "Spider" he was a party member for 3/4 of the game. Then he sacrificed himself to save the whole crew and he "died". Some chapter later we discover it was all a hoax. He was the big bad guy all along , Colonel Redips. His name "Spider" was an anagram for Redips As a 10 year old when i played the game , i was flabbergasted since Spider was the best character and I didn't think he was "evil"

Airy being evil and the villain all along is very similar to a fairy called Lee from Yugioh’s World Chalice cards. She convinces the hero party to search out items to destroy invading machines robots which are in fact the good guys. Then steals the main heroines body for her own.

@ericbambach3222

Жыл бұрын

If anyone is looking for a game where this plays out, it is one of the solo mission chains in "Master Duel," that lets you play with cards you probably do not have yet.

I get anxiety anytime someone says "Hey, Listen!" But only if it's done 342 times in a row so you guys are good. . . Still sent a chill up my spine

@gameranxTV

Жыл бұрын

😅

@BlackMoonHowls

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, but Skyward Sword. You forget.

Thats so true about Lucy Stillman in AC. It was such a cliffhanger thing in AC:B, but hardly anything comes of it. I had to google it to understand she was a double DOUBLE agent. She was so nice and trustworthy, i think the writers just wanted a cliffhanger.

One twist that blew me away as a kid that still sticks with me is Syphon Filter 2, an OLDDDDDDDDD PS1 game. It's also the very major model of this list. CBDC Lieutenant Jason Chance is just some barely there NPC that pops up in a mission or two and just seems like a rather green field agent, prone to getting himself captured and kind of a nice guy. But completely inconsequential as a character. Until he's not and turns out he is one of the big bads in on the conspiracy the whole time.

The Raven from Heavenly Sword is actually the demon, the dark lord which was slayed by the first heavenly sword user many years ago. It is shown in the in-game story videos. Then the sword went from one owner to the other when finally the last warrior didn't have the strenght to fight anymore and as he was stumbling over the desert he came upon Narikos(I think thats her name, the red haired girl) father which put his arms in front and the warrior handed the sword over to him, finally being free from the sword which slowly drained his life force. Thats what I remember from playing it on my original PS3 over 10 years ago

@gameranxTV

Жыл бұрын

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King Bohan is one of all-time favorite villains!! Lol He always had me cracking up

I dont usually enjoy these sort of vids but this particular one was well done, great choices, interesting content!

@gameranxTV

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed!

Thank you for the lists! I really appreciate them!

@gameranxTV

Жыл бұрын

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In Vampire Bloodlines, I was always under the impression that the whole plot was set up by Jack and planned by Jack, with the Cabbie as a witness or confidant. Either way calling the Cabbie a villain in the story is laying it on thick. A mastermind? Certainly. He showed an unmistakeable interest in the MC however in a way that could almost be considered... Fatherly... Just look at him, taking his childe to their first day of school, to meet their friends and making sure they always get home safe. For a dark father whose been absentee for most of history he certainly is showing up a lot for you in particular, which I always found absolutely fascinating.

@greghannibal

6 ай бұрын

Yeah it was Jack, not the Cabbie/Cain

I'm surprised Devola and Popola from NieR didn't make the list. Their betrayal really comes out of nowhere on the first play through!

Reminds me of the shopkeeper in D&D Heroes. Sells you ever enhancing gear to make you stronger, and in the end reveals himself to be the big bad, when he is alreaedy no match for you any more X-D

Atlas from Bioshock is the definition of a evil guy tricking the protagonist

I remember the cabby and this twist has been living rent free in my head since 2004 lol

@gameranxTV

Жыл бұрын

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@emmanuels.688

Жыл бұрын

@@gameranxTV the whole game is pretty much a tutorial on how to experience politics as a vampire haha

i know he wasn't an npc but scott shelby from heavy rain was a huge twist

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I like the Prince of Persia Warrior Within reveal for the TWO twist villains. The Whole game you think it's the creature of time that is the villian. And then the random man who follows you. And you're led to believe that the princess is good as well. Then you discover that the sand creature is actually you from a different time line, and the princess is a bad guy with the exact same motivation that you have. Underrated game.

Favorite thing is the title screen change for Bravely Default. The secondary title is 'Where the fairy flies' after you find out, it highlights 'airy lies' in red.

I would put Martin Lee's reveal as Mr. Negative in Insomniac's Spiderman

Here to show support. Just realized I don't want to potentially spoil a great videogame experience/story haha

One of my faves, is in the Lord of the Rings Online game: Sarah Oakheart. She's this old women you come across in multiple areas. Each time, she is 'caught up in some trouble' and you need to safely escort her: lead her out out of some prison pen, undead barrows, goblin camp, whatever. And, like all escort quests, the brain-dead NPC rushes around, pulling more mobs on you, getting herself in trouble before you get yourself out of the previous troubles. Fast forward months later, you get called by her to escort her to an area in the heart of the enemies' territory. This time she boldly just strolls through, then announces herself as the new big bad. You've been advancing her goals for ages, and yes, that escort npc literally was trying to get you killed. It was a glorious trolling.

@nightcrawler5409

8 ай бұрын

Lmfao

I would also add Legacy of Kain series. Kain was always thought to be the bad guy but he is actually good and the thing you meet in after Razael was thrown into the water. the big thing in the spirit realm was the main evil dude. Great game

My first thoughts were Junko from Danganronpa and Adachi from P4

Replaying tales of vesperia right now and many of the villains in the game are surprises because you spend so much time taking down cartoonishly villainous characters that the real puppet masters are quite the holy crap moments. (Also some characters you thought were going to be big bads or at least sub bosses turning out to be helpful)

The Atlas/Fontaine one was pretty solid as well. The f*ing "would you kindly" in formal work emails still messes with my head.

Garret Mason in LA Noire is a great example of this. One of the main antagonists of part of the game. You only interact with him one time and he has like 2 lines of dialogue. Turns out to be a prolific serial killer.

I love it when there is a plot twist like those instances in games

@gameranxTV

Жыл бұрын

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@braydogE

Жыл бұрын

@@gameranxTV hey ive been commenting on many of your new vids and just wanted to say thank you for paying attention to what we have to say and your response to us :)

@VongolaXZax

Жыл бұрын

They are cool, are they not?

@braydogE

Жыл бұрын

@@VongolaXZax they are cool

@VongolaXZax

Жыл бұрын

@@braydogE :P

So far I've only ever played Bravely Default and Bravely Second and they are by far some of my favorite RPGs of all time. The way they play up with the idea of the game mechanics, your guide being evil, breaking the game's true ending using New Game Plus Mechanics, its a game that if released in the 90's, would be as renown as Pokemon with how cleaver they are at using established mechanics and tropes against you as the player.

I was thinking about Aribeth, from Neverwinter NIghts, but that game is like 20 years old, definately a shock when i played as a kid.

I was about to comment...find the bad guys that help you in the end but someone beat me to the punch 😂 I finished A Plague Tale Requiem yesterday....there's one there. Your reviews of the game were justified....it's incredible!

Oh man I liked Hevanly Sword. I miss that game.

HEAVENLY SWORD was amazing... sadly I was never able to beat the final Boss... damn these forms got so brutal, it wasn't fun anymore. Playing through Dark Souls was easy in comparison ^^

Jus here exited for the before you buy high on life vid lol I bought it but I love all the before you buy vids also at work sadly can’t play it till 7pm

There's a character in "Neo The World Ends With You" who seems like a big cuddly teddy bear ... but he purposefully gives you bad advice on how to handle one of the Reapers.

I remember Lucy's Betrayal not cool in AC 2 and AC Brotherhood

With regards to point number 1, give it like 3 more years and I'm expecting to say the same thing about Paimon from Genshin Impact 😆 Great list 👌🏻

I think we're forgetting one and that's CD Projekt Red. They came off as our friend for years, told us Arasaka was one of the main villains in Cyberpunk but it was a distraction as in the end they were the actual villains; the REAL Arasaka 😉😂

Fun fact about Wild ARMs 3: The entire game is designed as an "alternate universe" of the first game (not to be confused with Alter Code F) but with locations and the like from 2. The point is that A LOT of the enemies in 3 were from the first game but re-imagined. Beatrice, the final boss of 3, was a story-important-throw-away dungeon boss from the first game most forgot about. If you had played the first game, you might have gone through 3 wondering where she was, only for her to be in literally every town and in a TON of cut-scenes - sometimes walking between you and the enemy!

Wheatly from Portal 2. Best part is you are not really sure if he meant good or bad in the beginning. He may have changed his mind after taking control of the facility. He did try to trick the player a few times but we are too smart for that.

@sgtGiggsy

Жыл бұрын

It's strange, because I've always been 100% sure Wheatly was a good guy who got corrupted when received the power. Just as Caroline wasn't evil, but GLaDOS is. Wheatly is simply too big of a moron to actually come up with a scheme.

I love Heavenly Sword! Underrated imo.

@inboxgameranx3558viadiscord

Жыл бұрын

I got something special for you hit me up to acknowledge it now 🎉🥳🥳❤❤

This brings up a pint where there should be more games where you play the villain

Wow. I've watched a lot of vids about Vampire The Masquerade (never played) and this is actually the first time I've ever been spoilered on what is truly in the coffin. Kudos to all those fan bros who made whole long form vids dedicated to it but refused to let the surprise slip. I mean, its old as dirt so I can hardly feel butt hurt about hearing it now.

Al Muallim in assassin's Creed 1. Also Ubisoft. they are evil for turning the series to a weird RPG has nothing to do with templars story line.

@BlackMoonHowls

Жыл бұрын

I agree.

@tsunamix004

Жыл бұрын

There are bad Assassin's Creed games but good Openworld rpgs

@loganwahl2412

Жыл бұрын

Good RPG*

@tsunamix004

Жыл бұрын

Yeah

@gimli2642

Жыл бұрын

True

Captian Shepard made it to the intro but not the actusl list?

The entire ticket room in Bioshock: Infinite. You go from lazily walking Elizabeth through the arcade to a guns-blazing ambush with only one means of escape because EVERYONE is a hostile.

Wow Binary Domain...That's a story I've not thought about for a long time

Im surprised we didnt get the one from Metroid Dread

@BlackMoonHowls

Жыл бұрын

I'd say Metroid Prime 3 was a betrayal because it is NOT 100%-able anymore. Those damn green orbs. THAT is why you DO NOT make live serviced games, they inevitably all come crashing down in the end.

@sinofsanity6593

Жыл бұрын

"well, gang, let's see who this way too helpful AI I lost contact with first thing really is"

Dude I have to say, the Batman telltale series is the best version of Batman in my opinion. The origin story and Bruce Wayne’s cool James Bond style is really amazing. Plus the bat suit looks really cool! What I really like the most, is how they handled the father/son relationship with Alfred in this game. You can choose to avoid the ridiculous line “you’re not my father blah blah”(i’m looking at you Batman 2022. Hate that line) lol 😂. I’ll admit, I almost tear up a bit when you can tell Alfred “you’re family”.

@gameranxTV

Жыл бұрын

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@mikespike2099

Жыл бұрын

Loved the darker take on the story - plus the muddy waters of the Wayne family … very true to life!

Your #1 is mine as well. That first time I booted the game up and saw the subtitle change blew me outta my mfn boooooots. Amazing twist in a game whose whole gameplay loop is an amazing twist on turn based RPGs. Bravely Default is wasted as a 3DS exclusive, I wish it would have at least gotten a PC or Switch port, if not PS4 and X1. I still think it should get ported to this day! Truly underrated.

I did not know about Lucy. Dang learn something new every day

Yeah, not seeing it mentioned so: There is a theory that Navi is actually a double agent working for Ganondorf and keeping tabs on Link. There's a couple different points brought up to help support that claim, the most memorable for myself being that they "just can't" help target Ganon during one of the last fights, then during the final fight says she will. Bit of paraphrasing in there but I encourage you to look it up as it's by far not my own idea and the original author(s) of the idea covered it much better than I did.

You forgot to mention that everytime you cleanse all the crystals, airy's wings count down

"Warehouse Safety Training Manual Voice" that's hilarious.

Loved this video

Actually the flame going out is only gonna be bad for anyone who's race isn't human. The Age of Darkness is also known as the Age of Humanity. So really it's good for human's who til this point have been under the thumb of Gods and stuff.

@NottherealLucifer

Жыл бұрын

That's true during the first game but by the time of the third game humanity would fall if the Age of Fire ended. The insects and other creatures who came from the abyss are the ones who inherited the Age of Dark from us. In all actuality humans may have been doomed from the moment Gwyn sealed the dark within the ancient humans and cursed us with the Darksign.

I have never been as pissed at a character in any game as I was with Big Smoke.

@gameranxTV

Жыл бұрын

😅

@baddman69

Жыл бұрын

"All you had to do was follow the damn train CJ!" I was waiting for a reason to off that fk.

@BlackMoonHowls

Жыл бұрын

@@baddman69 I was just about to say that, beaten to the punch.

Wow. Heavenly Sword. Haven’t heard about that game in forever. It was one of the reasons why I bought a PS3 originally. I never finished it because I hated the controls so much but I wish I did. It was a pretty fun game.

Kendra Daniels in Dead Space 1 was a really nice surprise. The idea got recycled a few times and didn't work out that well later though.