Fun fact: coffee is not supposed to boil. It actually reduces it's flavour. So their excuse was complete bullshit.

@notatkvn

Жыл бұрын

Ong bruh 💀💀💀

@zmbdog

Жыл бұрын

I remember them giving a different excuse...that most of their sales were people stopping on their way to work so McD made the coffee hotter than normal so that it would be at the right temperature by the time they arrived at work.

@gaycoffeeaddict

Жыл бұрын

@@zmbdog honestly I wouldn't be surprised if they tried a few excuses considering the controversy.

@majamystic256

Жыл бұрын

I prefer homemade Ice Coffee

@1djmercer

Жыл бұрын

Isn't the ideal temperature to perk coffee between 195 and 205 degF? At 165degF too cold to perk properly...

The worst part about the McDonald's coffee one was that people view that poor woman as a Karen because of a huge smear campaign against her so the company wouldn't face as much pressure from the public to pay out

@tonypeppermint5329

Жыл бұрын

It's frustrating, especially when there were lawsuits before that lawsuit about the coffee.

@maxmeidl4909

Жыл бұрын

One of the main reasons why I don’t drink coffee (or alcohol).

@NealCamerlengo

Жыл бұрын

A smear campaign by a mainstream media outlet.

@selalewow

Жыл бұрын

They even got Hollywood in on it. How many sitcoms at that time had episodes making light of it.

@weregretohio7728

Жыл бұрын

And the lie helped George Bush and co. push the awful idea of tort reform, an anti-consumer ideology.

I'm so, so glad more people are shedding light on the McDonald's coffee story. I grew up hearing jokes about the case and the woman who was burned, and when I found out the true story I was appalled. I hope she was able to recover from her burns, as well as the pointless hate and mockery people sent her way. I can't imagine how that must have felt for her.

@IShy2

Жыл бұрын

All I'm saying is, they must've made the coffee LITERAL lava for her to be hospitalized like that

@UnicornsPoopRainbows

Жыл бұрын

@@IShy2 Hopefully this is sarcasm but part of her injuries were due to the fabric she was wearing. She was wearing sweat pants and it soaked up the coffee, holding it against her skin. She had zero protection outside of that flimsy lid. For anyone wondering why she didn't just use a cup holder, the car she was in, her grandson's iirc, didn't have cup holders. And the car was parked, not moving. Poor woman was only seeking enough money to pay her medical bills, not looking for a big pay out. If McDonald's hadn't been sued so many times about the same issue previously and taken any measures to limit the burn risk, she might not have gotten anything. I'm pretty sure McDs spent more in lawyer fees than they ended up paying her in the end

@IShy2

Жыл бұрын

@@UnicornsPoopRainbows Don't worry, I was joking

@MR-SINISTER76

Жыл бұрын

​@@IShy2 this was commented by someone else but according to them coffee is actually not supposed to boil like it was because that reduses the flavor so their excuse was complete bullshit

@AiluridaeAureus

9 ай бұрын

All I'm saying is two things can be true at once: McDonald's coffee shouldn't be that hot, and she's still incredibly stupid for trying to hold a cup of hot coffee between her thighs with yoga pants on. Guess what you do when you don't have cupholders? You don't get the fucking drink in the first place!

In a sad twist of irony, the McDonald’s coffee lawsuit actually just became relevant to my own life. Last week a good friend of my parents spilled hot McDonald’s coffee on her lap when she tried to take a sip while sitting in her car. She’s still undergoing skin grafting in order to treat the second and third degree burns she obtained from it, and she’s working with her husband to get a good lawyer to sue McDonald’s for criminal negligence. I genuinely hope it works out for them because not only is she out of work until the burns are fully healed, but she also can’t do anything on her own and the couple is now dealing with exuberant medical bills as well as the money lost from her being unable to work. Now before anyone says that she just wasn’t being careful and spilled it on accident while driving, she was completely stationary as the car was parked. When she went to pick up the cup only to learn the cup melted from the scalding hot coffee and practically disintegrated when she tried taking a sip. This isn’t a joke post or anything, just me trying to show that even now McDonald’s coffee is still dangerous due to how hot it is (and apparently from how shoddy the cups are made in my opinion). It’s been 30 years since that 1992 suit, and nothings really changed.

@nunyabusiness896

Жыл бұрын

Now see, I think this version of the case holds more water. In this instance there is a clear product failure that led to the burn, not an act of clumsiness with a hot cup of coffee in your lap like the original case (in my recollection she took the lid off and bumped the cup in the process and IMO doing so with a hot liquid in your lap is negligent on her part). Hopefully your friend took pictures and/or saved the cup for the court case, it's hard to fake a melted cup, though of course they will have to somehow or another prove that it wasn't falsified by heating the cup or adding an already boiling liquid from another source or something, courts rely on irrefutable evidence, after all, people try to fake and scam all the time so you have to remove all doubt.

@gokuxsephiroth4505

Жыл бұрын

@@nunyabusiness896 Y'know, if I was in a McDonald's, tripped over and fell through a dangerously built floor and broke my back, I feel like you'd say it was my fault for tripping. The lady had nowhere to put the cup, put it in her lap - something I've known so many to do -and when it spilled, instead of just leaving her with a pink mark, it fused her genitals to her leg. Yes, spilling was on her but serving coffee at 200 degrees F (93 degrees C) is bloody ridiculous for something meant to be immediately consumed.

@nunyabusiness896

Жыл бұрын

@@gokuxsephiroth4505 Immediately consumed according to who? They made it hotter, which costs them more BTW because keeping water hotter costs more money, because they found people were getting it and driving to work and drinking it there and they wanted it still hot. If you are an adult you should be able to judge the temperature of a liquid and act accordingly. The government is not your fkn parents and you are not a baby, grow the mother fkn fck up.

@PlatoonGoon

11 ай бұрын

Was there an update on this? Litigation really sounds plausible if the cup melted/warped under heat of the coffee.

@fabh9674

18 күн бұрын

Just imagine what would’ve happened if she actually drank it with it being that hot 😰 I hope everything works out with the case and she makes a quick and easy recovery

Thank you so much for talking about the McDonald's coffee lawsuit. To this day people STILL make jokes about it, no one mentions the fact that she was 79 years old and that she suffered from complications from it for the rest of her life. Thank you for always being respectful and for always doing such thorough research

@godzillahomer

Жыл бұрын

or the fact that the coffee INSTANTLY burned her. And not on the leg or arm, in between the legs, to the point where fused skin needed surgery. Lawsuit also originally just started out as a demand that McDonalds pay her medical bills. Another case of McDonalds' crack legal team messing stuff up. See them losing the Big Mac trademark in Europe for more.

@elenaprice9348

Жыл бұрын

@@godzillahomer I'll have to check that out. But yeah, that whole situation was horrible. The worst part to me is that the amount she got was based on how much they make in coffee sales in like, a day or two, if I'm remembering correctly. So that was nothing to them. And I'm fairly certain she actually got much less

@tonythehappynerd7241

Жыл бұрын

I found out about the real reason behind the coffee scandal through Adam Ruins Everything

@inumizuno

Жыл бұрын

at first i thought it was a karen situation, but after hearing the story, i felt so bad for the old lady :(

@tonythehappynerd7241

Жыл бұрын

@@inumizuno Me too

The issue with Super Size Me is that, ever since the movie was released, there have been multiple attempts (several by major universities) to replicate Spurlock's "results" and every single attempt has failed.

@Craxin01

Жыл бұрын

He might have been uniquely susceptible to fast food. That's why all medical studies need a large sample to kick out outliers.

@germyforev4495

Жыл бұрын

According to some sources that's because the man behind it stopped taking his normal medications and exercise routine...Which you know would mess you up regardless of what you're eating. Not to say mcdonalds is healthy but the guy behind it had a goal/message/image he wanted to sell and knew how best to milk it for money.

@phantomstrider

Жыл бұрын

Ah yeah I had read those results too 🤔 I believe there was an irish university that tested some students on it and found the same thing. Obviously some weight was gained 😄 But nothing like the cholesterol and kidney results Super Size me got.

@PrezVeto

Жыл бұрын

They were bound to fail, given that Spurlock ate way more calories that he claimed in that fraudulent "documentary". They tried to replicate his meals in the documentary Fat Head and no combination of available items that he described eating (e.g. burger + fries + drink) could be found that totaled as few calories as he claimed to have eaten. It wasn't even close.

@drewmurdaugh6264

Жыл бұрын

I would agree however the epidemic of 3 foot wide derrieres possessed by many of the purveyors of McDonald's and fast foods would kind of speak otherwise. I mean I've been to other countries that have McDonald's there too but here in America the standard diet of literal garbage doesn't seem to do our health any good. Our country has the highest rate of sickness and sells the most drugs to its population than any other country in the world that should tell you something. Plus the fact that you can get a really crappy meal for a couple of bucks but if you want a salad it's gonna cost you $10. This is another factor why the population will eat garbage because it's priced cheaper

Thank you for talking about the truth behind Stella's story. I still see people believing the version that McDonalds twisted around to make her look like the bad guy. Yes, coffee should be hot, but it shouldn't literally fuse your skin together.

@nunyabusiness896

Жыл бұрын

Shoot, you're right. What kind of negligent moron keeps allowing people to boil water *far hotter* than that coffee on a stove!? Adults treating hot liquids with respect, impossible! I know Stella didn't do it intentionally, but her actions were ultimately negligent. It's easy to tell how hot a drink is through the cup, she should've let it cool before trying to put creamer into it and definitely shouldn't have done it in her lap like that.

@UnicornsPoopRainbows

Жыл бұрын

​@@nunyabusiness896 The car she was in didn't have cup holders. McDs was found to be 80% liable, mainly because of the amount of complaints and lawsuits from burns over the years from the coffee and how they took no efforts to fix the situation. They knew their product was hotter and more dangerous than average coffee but ultimately chose to keep it at that temp to reduce the frequency they would need to clean the coffee containers, and extra layer of ick on the case. But yes, Stella was a bit to blame and she wasn't seeking a huge pay out, literally just enough to cover her hospital bills. I used to work at McDs as a teen in the early 2000s and those coffee cup lids still were flimsy POSs. They'd rip easily and I'd make extra sure the lid was on firmly if the customer didn't want cream or sugar. Most customers would also double check too. I'd see customers put it on firmly then come back for a new lid a minute later because it ripped when they took it off to add creamer or sugar

@gokuxsephiroth4505

Жыл бұрын

@@nunyabusiness896 I mean, if you've ever been on a long road trip and hit up the drive through, you've probably put sugar in your coffee in the car - and if you have no cup holders (like her grandson's car did), you do it in your lap. Her spilling? Yeah, that's on her. Simple mistake, but that's on her. But *the coffee fusing her labia to her thigh?????* Like, come on man. Don't let McDonald's off the hook - that's ridiculously hot to serve something meant to be consumed right away. Yes, we boil water much hotter than that on our stoves everyday, but we don't expect to put that boiling pan straight to our lips and be able to drink it. When I buy a coffee, call me entitled but I *do* expect to be able to put that coffee to my lips and be able to drink it without scalding the taste from my mouth, just like I expect to buy McDonald's fries and be able to stick my hand in and eat them right off the bat as well.

@nunyabusiness896

Жыл бұрын

@@gokuxsephiroth4505 I don't drink coffee nor do I ever drink in the car, and certainly not a hot drink. Drink your damn sht at home before you leave or at the hotel or restaurant or whatever. So tired of these people sipping on their stupid whatever drinks instead of paying attention. You don't need sugar slurp in your face every second of every day you fat @ss.

@ZippoIII

Жыл бұрын

Skill issue

When I was a shift supervisor at McD's back in the 80's. One of my checklist duties was to calibrate the machines, juice, soda, and coffee. I found the juice machine was set too low and adjusted it, I also found the coffee maker set at it's highest setting, (210), and I reset it down to 155-160. I was written up! I retaliated by getting in touch with the health dept. and had the store fined, (I was made to reverse the temps, which would allow the juice machines to be to warm and form bacteria, and the coffee way too hot), I was suspended for 2 weeks, until the new owners took over. It was just plain stupid on McD's part. In retrospect, coffee sales did go up, because it no longer tasted of scalded camel spit, and juice waste went down.

As a McDonald's worker, I can say this list could be a top 10 McDonald's scandals

@Rtotalmagic

Жыл бұрын

I was curious to see if he would cover “McLibel” (where McDonalds sued two British activists for slander over an anti-McDonalds leaflet, leading to two very long and expensive libel trials). However, the focus seems to be on food-based scandals, which is understandable...

@glenncross4987

Жыл бұрын

@@Rtotalmagic I heard about that one

@christianparrish3292

Жыл бұрын

Even though I love McDonald's, I am curious about the scandals.

@Nakia11798

Жыл бұрын

When you're that big of a restaurant, it's bound to happen. Doesn't even surprise me.

@mostar1219

Жыл бұрын

I used to work at McDonald's, too, though I didn't grill

There’s also the Subway scandal where the spokesperson turned out to be a sex offender

@VJAllison1974

Жыл бұрын

I was wondering about that one. He was a real pervert.

@sallyintucson

Жыл бұрын

They dropped him like a hot stone! I’m surprised that wasn’t mentioned in this.

@janhobson6904

2 ай бұрын

50% Of the KZread Community be like:

I remember watching Super Size Me in highschool and then having to do a project based around all the ingredients in certain foods and how they were unhealthy for you. It warped my mind so badly that I swore off Mcdonalds and fast food specifically for almost 2 years. I indulge here and there as an adult now (definitely less than I did as a kid), but seeing clips from the documentary just took me back.

@Valkod23

Жыл бұрын

I don't care that this comment is 2 months old, but you should know that Supersize Me is full of bad science. You want a better documentary on the subject? Watch Fat Head instead.

@YeomasBros.2008

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like manipulation to me💀💀

@JamminClemmons

Жыл бұрын

@@YeomasBros.2008 I cannot walk into YOUR Canadian markets to purchase bacon without first knowing how to speak French! - Da hell's wrong witchu people up there? Imma gonna slappa da snot outta yo faces wit da wet spahetti. Mama Mia!!!

@funny.gon-12

11 ай бұрын

Super size me hist made me hungry for McDonalds

@Cartier2Shiesty

12 сағат бұрын

@@funny.gon-12that’s because you are fat

I always knew about the truth behind the McDonald's coffee story, but I had never heard about the actual temperatures. Both places I had been a barista at had our Bunn water machines also set to 180. I didn't realize how potentially dangerous that was until now. At Dutch Bros, our training told us to steam milk at maximum 150-155, but the americanos (espresso and hot water) was always 180. I hope that nobody has gotten hurt accidentally. They would HAVE to have known about this lawsuit. I wonder why it was so hot.

"Super Size Me" was a scandal in itself because he refused to release the doctor's findings and reports. Many people called BS on his experiment. Not that fast food is healthy, but his guy got a lot of notoriety from this and made bank with other "documentaries".

@alexklepp6479

Жыл бұрын

I heard all of that too.

@zavexcapricious2519

Жыл бұрын

and even then he literally made sure the effects would be as bad as possible even if it was all legit, eating a meal almost double the calories of the normal meals they sell everyday and not properly exercising is of course going to make your health rapidly drop, sure if he got normal meals from mcdonalds instead it wouldn't have been very good either but there it would not have been as absurdly severe as it seemed to be but still would have served the point not to eat too much fast food

@jamaisj

Жыл бұрын

It gets better: He used his girlfriend's cooking to get better, and he used the doc to help her vegan catering business.

@aeonianargos4284

Жыл бұрын

I'm fairly certain he got sued for the whole thing too

@vozpit

Жыл бұрын

It was proven that the caloric intake he claimed was less than he was actually eating. Rigging the numbers to get his desired affect.

Here's my personal bizarre 'Scandal'. In college one of my close friends used to work at a busy McD, so I heard a lot of weird stories. One time there came a man that wanted to talk with the manager. He claimed he ate an EggMcMuffin at their restaurant a day before and apparently it made him constipated. However the most bizarre part was that he didn't threaten them with a law suit, but instead that he'll going to slander them in a local talk show. The gave him a fruit pie so he'd get lost. Also apparently some places nickname fruit pies as 'F*ck-off Pies' since they give them to people who complain because they're easiest to write off.

@Megalon-qc8pf

Жыл бұрын

Mad guy? Give ‘em pie!

@mr72sweaty35

Жыл бұрын

Thats kinda bizzare

@sakurakitsunestar

Жыл бұрын

Bet it wasn't actually the McMuffin (or at least just it) and more lack of fiber we all know the average college student eats mostly junk like instant ramen and fast food Just more proof we need to lower textbook costs so the students can eat something with fiber once and awhile

@wolfetteplays8894

Жыл бұрын

Good lord 🙏 sounds fucking wild

@landscapingspecialist

Жыл бұрын

Arby’s doesn’t do this. They just say tough $hit 🥺

Subway's mascot or spokeman Jarrod getting arrested was a big one and I thought was going to be on here, but it does make sense why it wasn't. You were keeping to the food aspect

@BDESal

5 ай бұрын

Jared fogle yep

The McDonald’s coffee incident wasn’t because a woman wanted money, but because she wanted McDonald’s to care about the fact that they were endangering their customers, and what do you do to get a company that only cares about money to do something? Yep, come for their cash

I think the best part of Super Size Me was when they went into schools and called them out for their unhealthy lunches they provided. It's kind of hypocritical for schools to talk about all the healthy foods in health class, and then provide slop that is definitely not good for you.

@stephaniethebatter7975

Жыл бұрын

Yeah... good thing I live in Australia, where the food you get from the school is food you order or buy at the canteen (or tuckshop, depending on which state you're in), be it a pie from the local bakery, a ham, cheese and tomato sandwich or a lasagna. Otherwise, you can take your own food to school.

@johnnymeeks

Жыл бұрын

I would say that is the reason why cafeterias shouldn’t exist, but then I thought about homeless children and now I’m pretty much in limbo

@ElNeroDiablo

Жыл бұрын

@@stephaniethebatter7975 You just reminded me of that one time when I was in like Year 8 or Year 9 (so 2001-2002), I bought 1 Mars Bar, and ended up having a run of *six* free bars (as it was 1-in-6 has a free bar winner), before my school's canteen managed to put a stop to my run of great luck. That was 1 purchase got me a total of 7 bars before I got stopped. The probability of that is 0.0001250286% or nearly 8000-to-1 (7x D6 rolls; 1x D6 for the first purchase to win on a 6, then 5x D6 to win on a 6, then 1x D6 to fail on a 1-5)

@aeroblu2002

Жыл бұрын

The only problem was the guy getting girls' phone numbers

@inyrui

Жыл бұрын

That Super Size Me doc is such bullshit. People have tried to replicate his results and they can't. The only way he got so unhealthy was he intentionally over-ate and intentionally tried not to be active. Other people who have done the same diet have actually lost weight and have lowered their cholesterol

The horsemeat scandal was huge news here in the UK- all the major supermarkets here came under fire. However, it did make for some pretty hilarious horse puns in headlines and social media 🤣

@Rtotalmagic

Жыл бұрын

As one cartoonist put it “War Horse: You’ve seen the film, now buy the burger”... However, in the U.K., reporting on the scandal was focused more on frozen food companies such as Findus...

@Megalon-qc8pf

Жыл бұрын

Can you tell us some

@arthurjunior7241

Жыл бұрын

Tell us

@Ospyro3em

Жыл бұрын

I remember some asked Tesco on their social media page if they stocked Red Rum (referring to the racehorse), they didn't immediately pick up on the joke 😂 Another was just people putting random jokes like "my doctor told me to watch what I eat, do I'm off to watch the Grand National" just silly things like that 😆

@hannahmabbott7370

Жыл бұрын

I can. Findus produces products like lasagne and they do crispy pancakes which are savoury pancakes filled with either ham and cheese or minced beef. During the scandal it came out that the lasagne that findus was making had horsemeat in it. I never ate the lasagne personally but my mum stopped buying any of their crispy pancakes for a while because I have a kidney transplant and they was a chance I might get sick from eating any of their beef products.

Thank you for how you handled the discussion of the "McDonald's Coffee" lawsuit. I don't know if you're aware, but attorneys actually use that case as a metric in voir dire to determine whether potential jurors are willing to set aside preconceived notions when provided new facts. It's a good indicator of whether someone can overcome their bias. As to the issue of Subway chicken and soy beans, I would like to say that given the nearly 100% price increase that Subway has instituted since June 2022 (I'm entirely serious about that; I paid half as much for a 6" steak egg and cheese with *double meat* than what I pay now with just a single serving of meat - and the less expensive option was purchased in a hospital where my son was inpatient last June) - given that, I absolutely want my meat to be meat and not soy beans/filler. If I'm going to pay as much for one sandwich with one _very thin_ chicken breast on it as I do for an _entire pound_ of chicken at the grocer's, then it had best be actual chicken I'm getting. So I can understand the upset over that one a lot more than I can some of the other issues.

Speaking of Subway not being able to stay out of trouble: apparently investigations, lawsuits, etc. are popping up about their tuna not being tuna. 🙄

I remember hearing an interesting critique of Super Size Me. Basically, the body's metabolism and what it's used to eating plays a large role in weight and what foods the body is better at processing. The main criticism was the fact that the man in question was vegan, so his body wasn't even used to digesting meat, let alone the stuff at mcdonalds, so the health outcomes he got were a bit inflated from what they would be for the average person. I don't know for sure if all of that is true, I'm just going off of memory, but it's a very interesting perspective either way.

@phantomstrider

Жыл бұрын

There were some interesting follow up studies in universities too finding the same diet to 30 or so students didn't create the same result either. They weren't feeling great after but not as bad as super size me 😆

@shibolinemress8913

Жыл бұрын

In college I had a friend who was a vegetarian since childhood. One day a bunch of us who were learning German at the time decided to go to the Oktoberfest in nearby Cincinnati. For some reason, he insisted on trying a bratwurst hotdog. We all warned him that it wasn't a good idea for him, not being used to meat or saturated fat, but he insisted. Afterwards he got very sick and swore off meat again. We all had the same hotdogs and no one else got sick, so either he had extraordinarily bad luck and got a bad one, or it was indeed his stomach that just couldn't handle it. So if the guy who made that film was vegan, I can well imagine that McD's overwhelmed his system. Too bad he didn't have a non-vegan partner do the experiment with him as a control.

@Dafawfulizer

Жыл бұрын

@@shibolinemress8913 That's a really interesting story. Thanks for sharing.

@shibolinemress8913

Жыл бұрын

@@Dafawfulizer 😊👍

@pandaphil

Жыл бұрын

@@phantomstrider My biggest gripe with that film is that even after he was full, he'd basically force feed himself the rest of the meal un til he was sick. Who does that?

One scandal I recently found out was the Burger King pokeball scandal around 1999 where they had pokeball toys in their kids meals, but there were reports of young children suffocating to death on them which caused BK to air adverts requesting a recall in the toys which set them back millions.

@bluestreaker9242

Жыл бұрын

I remember that one, yeah. Josh covered that in a previous episode, though I don't remember precisely which one.

@Phoenix2312

Жыл бұрын

Strider has covered that in another video! Which is maybe why it did not appear here...

@sakurakitsunestar

Жыл бұрын

It's true small kids could place a ball half over both nose and mouth and suffocate themselves! so bk had a recall where you could bring the balls in for a free small fry... Though my parents just threw mine in the trash even though I was big enough that I wasn't at risk (kids that were were like babies) It also caused a change in the mold used for the store bought figures made by tomy afterwards the pokeballs had holes in them so kids couldn't hurt themselves with those ether

@kenhollis6197

Жыл бұрын

The dumbest part of that scandal was that the kid in question was like three months old, so it was a clear case of child neglect. Of course, the parents wouldn't cop to that, opting instead to start a website called Pokemon Kills.

@Zoloft77

Жыл бұрын

@@kenhollis6197 Reminds me of the case where one negligent mother blamed Beavis & Butthead for the death of her child. That case was so full of holes it made Swiss cheese look solid.

Hi Strider! Soy filled chicken, other than being deadly to some of those that are allergic, can affect hormones as well. As an endometriosis sufferer, I try to avoid excess soy so that my body doesn't produce more estrogen and endometrial tissue outside the uterus. Very painful situation that I wouldn't wish upon the worst of my enemies.

@kimmyfriedman7469

Жыл бұрын

Soy also effects Thyroid levels, especially in someone like me. I was born without a Thyroid Gland and certain foods such as soy and most processed foods interferes with the absorption and function of my medication(Synthroid) which acts as a Thyroid Gland.

@cricketandgraham8644

Жыл бұрын

tbh that does sound really painful to go through. Stay strong

I used to work for McDonald's a few years ago, they still brew their coffee at 200°f/93°c. So honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if they had another lawsuit like this

in regards to "super size me", it has gained recent controversy due to the guy who made the documentary not disclosing that he was/is a raging alchoholic... so its safe to assume most of the negative health issues found after 30 days of Mcdonalds was actually caused by consuming so much alcohol. that isn't to say that eating nothing but Mcdonalds is healthy or anything, its still not good for you. the documentary at least made people conscious about their food choices which isn't a bad thing

@thehorrorhound6575

11 ай бұрын

Yeah exactly. Morgan Spurlock has gained controversy over the years from people outside McDonald’s due to the fact that he was a raging alcoholic, with undisclosed medicinal ailments he purposely hid from the documentary including his own bad liver (which he blamed on McDonald’s) and that no one in the last 20 years has ever been able to replicate his results indicating he was misleading about the amount of food he was actually eating. It’s theorized he actually ate FAR more than he recorded to inflate the negative weight gain results, and that his mood swings were due to alcohol withdrawal and he’s been accused of the whole thing being a scam to pay off his own medical bills prior to the video.

I think the actual issue at the heart of the whole "filler in meat" thing is that certain fillers are also potentially allergens for some people, which means these companies basically had undeclared allergens in their food. Soybean allergies aren't uncommon, so even though they're safe and healthy for the general population, they're still dangerous for some people to consume.

@sekovittol3124

Жыл бұрын

People just want what they pay for, it's the deception that people don't like. Moreso IMO than allergies.

@tional5266

Жыл бұрын

Soy is destabilizing natural hormones, as a phytoestrogen it’s causing many of the issues we see today, turning boys to girls etc

@gokuxsephiroth4505

Жыл бұрын

That's an interesting perspective - I'd never considered that

@Mike14264

6 ай бұрын

Aye, that does sound like a more proper complaint, yeah. Like, that'd be pretty crucial to list off in their disclaimers on the menu. I'm not sure if soybean allergies can kill, but it sure is nasty to get a reaction from something you weren't warned about.

@fatuusdottore

5 ай бұрын

Also, some people don't want to eat soy.

Another effect that Supersize Me had that i dont think i have heard anyone ever notice - yes mcdonalds almost instantly tossed out their supersize options. However most of the other big chains like burger king sonic wendys etc had their own version of supersize that also mysteriously vanished quietly into the void while everyone was screaming about mcdonalds. Everyone switched to small medium and large sizes. This was a huge issue for all of the fast food places and i found it very interesting to sit back and watch as those not in the hate spotlight just quietly changed everything so the mob wouldnt turn its gaze twords them...

I saw the photos of the coffee spill incident, and they were horrifying! That poor woman received third-degree burns, and I'm glad they actually reduced the temperature of their hot beverages. Speaking of, as a Melburnian coffee snob, I actually don't mind McDonald's coffee from McCafe, haha, I feel like the ones here in Aus at least a top notch. Also, this video has made me hungry, well played fast food companies, lol.

I remember eating a subway sandwich with lettuce when my mom turned the news on, they was airing a story about bacteria in the subway lettcue sandwiches. My jaw dropped.

@rossallan3585

Жыл бұрын

Beats your guts dropping!

@r.j.penfold

Жыл бұрын

Were you alright?

@jadenbryant9283

Жыл бұрын

Did you eat it

@barnacleboi2595

Жыл бұрын

Newsflash: every single surface on earth has some sort of bacteria on it.

@TheShyForeigner

Жыл бұрын

@@barnacleboi2595 True but there's always bacteria that's not safe for human consumption and more importantly should be checked for such bacteria in food. Thats kinda why we have food regulations so that excuse falls flat.

subway also got in legal trouble for selling foot longs that weren't a foot long and they tried to fire back " oh its just a advertising name" but people were a little upset that a footlong wasn't a foot long and they got sued

I hate it when people keep blaming the old lady for her coffee burns. There's absolutely NO reason to heat coffee so hot that it DESTROYS the cup its in. It's literally a violation on McDonald's part, especially when numerous people have complained. They should've shoveled out more money in that lawsuit.

you should have used the clip of Tim Minchin screaming "EVERYTHING is chemicals!" XD

Man that hot coffee scandal just vindicated why I hate getting coffee outside of coffee shops. Or just brew my own coffee at home.

@Andromeda14161

Жыл бұрын

Or if you're like me, you prefer a cold brew 👍

@Air_Serpent

Жыл бұрын

Me too. My friends tend to note that I only like lukewarm coffee, but I just don't like being burnt.

@geraldmartin7703

Жыл бұрын

Handling a cup of scalding coffee in a fast food drive through has its own perils.

@Blahblahblah28504

Жыл бұрын

@@Andromeda14161 Eh, I don't really like iced coffee. But you do you.

@Andromeda14161

Жыл бұрын

@@Blahblahblah28504 totally fair! But we are both equally vindicated 😺

I have heard of 1 or 2 fast food scandals but not a lot until now.

@admiralAlfonso9001

Жыл бұрын

I didn’t but I wouldn’t doubt it for a second

@UnknownPikmin

Жыл бұрын

really??

back in 2019 i ordered a cake at tim horton ( typical in canada) and then the first thing after i cut the cake in half there was a PLASTIC FORK inside !! my parents wanted me to sue or at least take a video of it but i didnt know any of that ( i was young ofc) and now i wonder how much money i wouldve got..... ps: after i found the fork i went over to show it to the workers and they had the most SHOCKED faceive seen ( no wonder they were asking how i didnt sue ) and the cake just doesnt exist anymore

I really hate the supersize me documentary because it really should be a no shit moment thinking eating nothing but fast food is unhealthy. No one should think fast food is healthy. We all know it’s not. It’s so frustrating. I also feel bad for the lady with the coffee lawsuit. I hate how she gets villanized.

I just feel bad for that woman who got burned by the coffee.

@Craxin01

Жыл бұрын

One of the many reasons I refuse to eat in the car. One little bump and suddenly you're covered in what you're eating. If that's coffee hot enough to cause 3rd degree burns, that's a bad day.

@Showtunediva

Жыл бұрын

I do as well.

@christianparrish3292

Жыл бұрын

I'm glad I don't drink coffee

@racheljackson4428

Жыл бұрын

nasty burns. people who work at fast food joints need to be careful when serving hot beverages.

@bowlr9794

Жыл бұрын

I don’t understand why it had to be so hot

It’s always a swell day when Strider and Boo uploads a video

@autumnoraki

Жыл бұрын

@Trick or Treat skill issue ngl

The big issue with subway chicken or any other substitution of ingredients is the implications to those with allergies. If you do not disclose the consumer can not maintain control of choice. With sometimes drastic consequences.

I love the attention to detail in this video. Especially at 3:14 when you started talking about horse meat. The horse race music from ocarina of time just fits so well 😁

I'm glad you got the coffee story correct - it's disheartening to see people think they're making the world better by simping for McDonald's

@MotorcycleCheetah

Жыл бұрын

It’s probably more so just a by-product of the fact that so many entitled people exist and yell nowadays that people see headlines like that and defaultly assume “Oh great, another Karen”. People just kinda scoff at this now. Not saying it’s right, but it may be why.

@BeanBag343

Жыл бұрын

@@MotorcycleCheetah my mom says it's because at the time the story was everywhere and the media peddled the story to seem like she was a Karen. Basically, everyone only got McDonald's side of the story and never Stella's

@MotorcycleCheetah

Жыл бұрын

I was afraid that was the case.

@Al-Cohol999

Жыл бұрын

I like my coffee hot. If I wanted a cold coffee I would buy a iced coffee. I don't see warnings on cigarette lighters saying "Caution flame is hot". Why do people need a warning saying "caution hot coffee may be hot"?

@ResettisReplicas

Жыл бұрын

​@@Al-Cohol999 Because it was so hot it was causing 3rd degree burns, that is NOT normal for spilling coffee on yourself. McD's were told repeatedly that the coffee was at unsafe temperatures and they didn't do anything.

“This tainted food crisis threatened customers confidence in Burger King” People had confidence in Burger King?

I worked at a pizza shop that mixed breadcrumbs in the tuna so it would produce more sandwiches vs. not using the breadcrumbs. No one ever noticed that either!

the Subway bread scandal is like a riddle wrapped in an enigma

"Hey, I signed up for cow, not Bojack!" - PhantomStrider, 2022

That Krispy Kreme one... Yikes.

@theitfactorjameswheezer2852

Жыл бұрын

Definitely the tamest one

@markloveless1001

Жыл бұрын

You would think that at least one person in that marketing department would have said "Uh, folks...".

@chelljacobs388

Жыл бұрын

I actually remember this and when I saw it on Facebook I was 😱

@harperstacey9604

Жыл бұрын

What was the scandal with Krispy Kreme? From Ms. Harper Stacey.

@Cookiofshadows2

Жыл бұрын

You'd have to know a bit of American history to get what was going on. In the early to mid 1900's, there was a group called the Klu Klux Klan, or the KKK. The short version is they were racist idiots who sought to rid America of anyone who wasn't white. When Krispy Kreme called their membership club thing the Krispy Kreme Klub then abbreviated it to KKK, a lot of **erhem** extremely unfortunate connections and assumptions were made.

I love the editing in this video! For instance, I love how you play the horse race theme from Zelda for the horse meat section! That's funny! I like the use of Pheonix Wright drinking coffee for the coffee lawsuit! These are just some nice touches a gamer like me can appreciate.

I always felt bad for the lady who got burned by the coffee

@harperstacey9604

Жыл бұрын

She's doing okay with the money she got from their lawsuit. From Ms. Harper Stacey.

@jerseygirl2811

Жыл бұрын

@Harper Stacey she's a con artist who purposely spilled it on herself and attempted the same stunt with another restaurant. She got caught.

The McDonald's Coffee Scandal was actually turned around so that something like her case. (Meaning the restitution she won being almost half a million dollars and McDonald's lost millions in revenue) So that now its harder to get any sort of restitution and justice because of this case being seen like a big joke or even a bad thing. My parents even got some restitution from this sort of thing. Because when I was young maybe 1995-1999. I got badly burned by McDonald's coffee as a little kid. We didn't make millions but we did receive 1000$. And free McDonald's Coupons for life. Which back than was good for the time.

@phantomstrider

Жыл бұрын

I'm sorry you got burned Halley 😞 I know it was a long time ago, but that must've been awful. I'm glad you're okay and glad they finally cooled the stupid coffee down.

@Nicky2414

Жыл бұрын

@Trick or Treat Oh shut up you bot!

@halleyangel1706

Жыл бұрын

@@phantomstrider Eh truth be told Strider that wasn't the last time Coffee proved to hate me. I had this Santa Claus at this Church Community Party my family went to drop me twice. And spill hot coffee on me twice. And this happened to my brother to (only once but still). My parents were starting to believe we were curse. I also think those instances are why I don't like coffee and drink tea

@ARandomGamer910

Жыл бұрын

So sad your burned glad you got better tho

@ARandomGamer910

Жыл бұрын

@@phantomstrider same

Apparently Morgan Spurlock faked the results for Supersize Me. He drank a lot,hence the pickled liver and ate more than he showed. Multiple attempts to recreate it didn't produce the same effect and in at least one case,someone LOST weight.

Langdon Alger, on top of your Mario and Donkey Kong references…..this one was very very nice! Awesome video my man!

Honestly hearing that a 79 year old lady that was legitimately injured being passed off as a Karen makes me wonder how many people use the term in the correct context.

"If you have a friend who's a little obsessed with artifcial chemicals." My sister is one of these "chemical freaks" and your point is precisely what annoys me about her paranoia.

@kenhollis6197

Жыл бұрын

Have you ever pointed out to her that literally everything is chemicals, even fresh fruits and vegetables?

@springboobsquirepin6121

Жыл бұрын

@@kenhollis6197 Yes, but she still was hard-pressed that it was "caused by the government" she's one of those, "the vaccine will grow an ass on my head." people.

@star-rock6466

Жыл бұрын

​@@kenhollis6197 i feel like that would make things worse-

@user-Beans2017

Жыл бұрын

Right…everything has chemicals…this is giving flat earther vibes…

@sjmhadsock4586

Жыл бұрын

@@user-Beans2017 or anti vaxxers

"Howdy! Yeah yeah!". Always makes me smile.

I think the biggest issues with Subway not disclosing that their chicken contains soy is both the fact that some people may be allergic to soy and unknowingly consume it and also just false advertisement. Personally, I too like soy and wouldn't mind it but if it's advertised as 100% chicken, I expect that or else they just lose credibility imo.

and you get the thumb up for making me laugh more than expected.

Another scandal as an honorable, or dishonorable mention in this case, is when a Burger King employee stood on bins full of lettuce. Then someone took a photo of it and posted it to 4chan. It went viral and the employee was fired and blew up on the news. Despite the major health code violation of that stunt, at least we got one of my favorite lines from Epic Rap Battles of History: Ronald McDonald vs. the Burger King. Seriously, I keep cracking up when I hear the line "You're a bin full of lettuce: facing da feet!"

@embroideredragdoll

Жыл бұрын

Number 15: Burger King foot lettuce

@kenhollis6197

Жыл бұрын

The worst thing about that was how frequent and long people kept making "BK foot lettuce" jokes, if you can even call that a joke.

@kenhollis6197

Жыл бұрын

@@embroideredragdoll For the love of god, do not resurrect that. All memes are stupid, but that one took the cake.

@DailyVen

Жыл бұрын

@@kenhollis6197 number 15 burger king foot lettuce

@RinaShinomiyaVal

Жыл бұрын

@@kenhollis6197 Number 15 Burger KinG FooT Lettuuucee

My dad had a similar moment to the McDonald’s Hot Coffee incident but it was at a Dunkin Donuts. My mom asked for an extra large coffee and my dad was driving. When the lady handed it to my dad in the drive thru window the cup was too tall to fit through the window so the lid got knocked off and hot coffee fell in my dad’s lap. He screamed and all the lady did was shut the window and didn’t even offer him ice until we asked for some. All she said after that was “have a good day” in the most monotone voice as if she didn’t witness a customer get burned by hot coffee. My dad didn’t need any medical attention so we didn’t sue.

@cricketandgraham8644

Жыл бұрын

tbh I can't blame her

@3:13 The use of "Epona's Race" music for this section is next level 😂

9:51 "There's nothing *wrong* with it." [Soy Allergies]▶ "No, that's wrong!"

I'm surprised that the Wendy's lawsuit wasn't on the list. Someone tried to sue Wendy's for finding a supposed human finger in their chili. Luckily, the person got caught and Wendy's didn't really suffer throughout the entire thing.

@michaelschmidt4199

Жыл бұрын

I'm surprised the "Wendy's uses worms in their meat" scandal didn't make the list.

@mang0_cat444

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelschmidt4199 the. What.

@edgardeitz5746

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelschmidt4199 Actually, I heard that one myself, only *I* was told that it is *McDonald's* who uses mealworms as filler. Until I can see legitimate, undeniable proof that "Wendy's" does likewise, I will continue to go there (My parents got us food there yesterday, as a little celebration of getting good news at Mom's doctor's appointment). Still, I do not deny your statement; it could be true for all we know...

@Bomp..

Жыл бұрын

Mike Schmidt Honestly I'm surprised that didn't make the list as well Probably because it is unlikely

@michaelschmidt4199

Жыл бұрын

@@Bomp.. Yes, but frankly a lot of the scandals involving adulterated products are unlikely.

Luckily we can all agree on that there is no scandal behind the validity of the outcome of Aquaman vs SpongeBob from the latest Death Battle. Truly it's a masterpiece.

@Megalon-qc8pf

Жыл бұрын

I’m just happy SpongeBob beat him. Even if it was the “weak children’s show” aqua man. Also, *WHY DOES THERE HAVE TO BE ANIMATION, I LIKE NARRATORS, NOT HILLBILLY AND NERD*

Another great,layed-back,PhantomStrider video as always,honestly there's been so many fast food controversies you could make a part two,you haven't even gotten into the whole Rick & Morty Szechuan sauce scandal or the chicken sandwich riots.

It's videos like these that remind me why I actually hate flying, it's not the heights, it's somebody cutting corners

You know its a good day when phantomstrider uploads

To quote Hank Green, "EVERYTHING IS CHEMICALS!!"

Oof! The Krispy Kreme Klub segment had my sides practically in orbit from all the unexpected laughter I was doing while listening to it. 😂

@lloydzeroa.k.aforger6990

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, that was something.

You forgot the Fast food strip search that happened at a lot of fast food establishments. The movie "Compliance" was based on one of the incidents.

To quote Krusty the Klown, "We're out of the secret Krusty sauce! Quick, go leave this expired mayonnaise out in the sun!"

Tbh it would make sense for every fast food company to have at least one scandal

PhantomStrider, thank you for giving more details to the McDonald’s coffee suit. Some people are allergic to natural products. When my friend M.L. eats coconut the roof of her mouth issues, but if it’s coconut flavoring, she’s fine. I don’t go to a fast food restaurant, or any restaurant expecting health or healthy food. Thank you for this video.

Worse than the Subway chicken scandal was the Subway bread scandal. They used an additive in their breads called, "azodicarbonamide". They claimed it was a common bread ingredient but it seems it's also used in "yoga mats". I stopped eating at Subway many years ago after realizing that their highly touted flatbread felt like foam rubber in the mouth and had no bread taste at all.

Concerning the Subway chicken scandal, there are people who are allergic to soy. Some of them are so allergic that it could be fatal. A scandal that you missed was Jack-In-the-Box burgers and food poisoning (several people died from either botulism or salmonella.) There were other restaurants involved in this scandal as well.

@chip4039

Жыл бұрын

Wow. Botulism is one of the deadliest diseases in the world. How did it get into the food?!

@phylliskress2296

Жыл бұрын

@@chip4039 Tainted meat (which made me grateful for all of my allergies [I didn't/don't eat in restaurants often due to that].) I think that my older sister's brother-in-law ate at a sandwich shop that had the same tainted meat, ultimately killing him.

@chip4039

Жыл бұрын

@@phylliskress2296 I'm sorry for your loss

@Bomp..

Жыл бұрын

I will never eat Jack's face ever again

@brucedoig1583

Жыл бұрын

Jack In The Box details here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992-1993_Jack_in_the_Box_E._coli_outbreak

My health teacher in middle school actually played us a Straight to DVD documentary made to criticize and fact-check ‘Super Size Me’ (entitled ‘Fat Head’ if you’re curious) as well as ‘Supersize Me’ itself. ‘Fat Head’ had a very sarcastic tone but brought up a lot of good counterpoints to the things in ‘Supersize Me’ His goal was to teach us a healthy amount of skepticism, and that we should think for ourselves and use a multitude of sources rather than listen to what sensationalism tries to push.

@MASTEROFEVIL

Жыл бұрын

Is this it? kzread.info/dash/bejne/l6qXsLKfis_YitY.html

If only Ray Kroc were still around, he wouldn't have let his company go down the tubes like this.

PhantomStrider is my new comfort channel 💖 You make my vibe always so much better ☺️ thank you!!

Technically you could call fast food in its entirety a scandal

@osmm8483

Жыл бұрын

@Trick or Treat all tho the opinion is fine for what you give a review you also give a link to the unfunniest KZreadr ever and it is not you no offense

@ExtremeWreck

Жыл бұрын

@@osmm8483 What's the link? I don't feel like clicking it because it might be some p3do crap.

@Nic_2751

Жыл бұрын

@@ExtremeWreck it’s a spam bot

@ExtremeWreck

Жыл бұрын

@@Nic_2751 Oh, I see. Thanks!

Ikea had a scandal here in the Netherlands for straight up having horse meatballs instead of the beef it advertised! Not just small traces either, like full on meat. Not the weirdest thing since we eat horse meat over here but it was not what was advertised! 😂

@mr_selfdestruct

Жыл бұрын

Also mr. Phantom Strider, are you perhaps gathering interest in Dutch youtube/programming/websites? I've seen multiple Dutch things show up now in your last few videos as background footage! :)

@jaredthehawk3870

Жыл бұрын

There's also the 2013 Horse Meat Scandal that hit the EU.

I was working in the hospital ER when she came in. It was horrible to see the skin peeling off of her legs. She suffered terribly. She deserved what she got!!

Other than the ones you mentioned, off the top of my head I remember the pink slime scandal and something about the lettuce from Chipotle. There was no lettuce in our Chipotle for ages.

Not to mention, with the coffee thing, it was so hot that it had warped the cups so even if you were careful you'd spill it. They only sued for so much because they knew it would be knocked down and her bills were so high. That poor woman went through so much to be labeled as a frivolous idiot when she just wanted her medical bills covered and McDonalds could have easily paid them and not suffered any sort of measurable loss yet they not only didnt want to pay but went out of their way to try to make her look bad.

Haha that Neigh-sayer joke got me, as much as I hate to admit it

I only ate McDonald's for a year, i worked there and only ate my employee meal most days. I lost 150 pounds, and my diabetes improved. But i was also walking 5 miles to work 6 days a week and 5 miles home. It's all in the context. Basically, i ate less and exercised more.

This goes to show that trust takes years to build, but can be destroyed in moments. I would consider giving my right "whatever" for a group of untouchables.

Hey Strider, around a year ago I wasn't in a good place, I saw your video on the worst family guy episodes. I decided to take your advice and called the suicide hotline, I'm doing much better now but not exactly 100% so I just wanted to say. Thank you

@christianparrish3292

Жыл бұрын

@TheGlassesPro hello.

Not only do I really enjoy the content and your narration, but your choice of background music is exactly what I need right now. Thanks for keeping an old man sane.

Legally speaking, the coffee wasn’t boiling, it was SCALDING.

Hi ,from CDC here, Creative Dance Center,thanks for the shout out.

I waiting for someone to talk about the “Super Size Me” documentary. I saw this documentary in health class and really liked it. I saw a few fast food scandal lists and none of them talked about how the documentary effected McDonald’s

@Megalon-qc8pf

Жыл бұрын

Because it sure as hell effected McDonalds

I love how Burger King is more honest with there fast food scandals just wish a certain golden M would take notes

Great video as always Strider! Lookin' forward tah a sequel!

The SUBWAY Jarred scandal was epically disastrous for SUBWAY. (Mostly because of their response to Jarred gaining all the weight back)

josh pretty much switched his channel from cartoons to food lol

@inumizuno

Жыл бұрын

and i aint complainin tbh

@The_cool_duck

Жыл бұрын

honestly, I'm here for it

It always makes me happy to hear Phantom say "Howdy" and Boo to say...well, whatever it is Boo says.

I worked as a district manager for McDonald's for years. Thankfully for this lady there was alot of good changed made to mcdonalds standards

Ironically recent studies have shown vegetable oil has shown to be worse than pure lard.

In the mid-90s Jack in the Box was nearly wiped out due to an e. coli outbreak.. Some of the cases were actually at our local one and I remember never seeing a single car or customer there after that.

@lizhustedt4254

Жыл бұрын

I was wondering if that one would be in the list!! I remember the news stories on that one vividly.

@fionam3554

Жыл бұрын

They still have Jack in the Box? All the ones here closed...

@zmbdog

Жыл бұрын

@@fionam3554 We still have them in WA.

Clearing up that coffee mess was a good decision! I thought she was just a Karen...but come to think of it, coffee does NOT need to be that hot. o___O poor granny.

Never thought I'd see a Frasier clip in one of your videos! Awesome!

The coffee scandal was so tragic. And that coffee was truly that hot. And then she was made fun of, called gold digger, etc. Yet she was totally effected for the rest of her life.