10,000 Point Apocalypse - Necrons vs Imperium - The Apothis Crusade 40k Battle Report Ep 21
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It's time for the final push against Overlord Ah'Kul. The forces of the crusader fleet lead by The Tech-Priest Dominus Cornu Aspersum have mobilized on mass against against a major Necron power source that connects to the core of the planet.
Adeptus Mechanicus forces have broken into the deeper tomb world while massive fighting goes on atop the surface right above. Control over teleportation nodes that connect the surface to the deeper tombs are critical to victory in this conflict.
Josh and Luka each play a 10,000 point army against one another to determine final control over Vadurak.
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When the Necrons take a new world. *It's the settlers of C'tan.*
@owlblocksdavid4955
5 жыл бұрын
This comment is underrated.
@lucasnixan7695
5 жыл бұрын
It's very much underrated
@l1ghtd3m0n3
5 жыл бұрын
Colin Tentis You Just had to make that pun
@valentusdolor3742
4 жыл бұрын
It literally took me at least 15 seconds to get this 😄
@PlasticAddict301
4 жыл бұрын
Take my like point
"Huh, the Imperial force looks awful small for 10,000 po-....." *notices the 5 Imperial Knights*
@PrimetimeD
6 жыл бұрын
Same XD
@jackstrayfeald1007
6 жыл бұрын
Superfanboi To bad those Knights got slaughterd.
@DROSIFICTION
6 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha XD so true
@helixhowitzer7920
5 жыл бұрын
Yup so true
@thefiresworddragon927
5 жыл бұрын
Superfanboi Not to mention the fact that those are titanics, and the fact that they are some of the strongest units for the Imperium.
the winner of thise battle is Gameswork shop, hot damn all those models and paint
@nicholasmontgomery9626
4 жыл бұрын
I'd hate to see how much they spent for everything on just this.
@hoontersmusthoont834
4 жыл бұрын
Nicholas Montgomery better than spending it on Videogame skins or something
@iggyeo6458
4 жыл бұрын
@@hoontersmusthoont834 not that buying skins in game isn't a scam itself or anything, but i mean.. you're comparing like $10 to damn near $10,000..
@hoontersmusthoont834
4 жыл бұрын
iGGy eo *better than spending it on 10000$s worth of skins
@iggyeo6458
4 жыл бұрын
@@hoontersmusthoont834 never have truer words been written.
Oh well.... Math homework can wait. **Sees time** I can always finish it in class.
@es83stevenson88
6 жыл бұрын
Papa Smurf tell them you were doing mathhammer
@kaiji4788
5 жыл бұрын
Papa Smurf relatable meme
@commanderstorm8874
3 жыл бұрын
How does the Primarschule of the ultramarines have homework don’t you have a chapter and a imperium to lead
I have never play Warhammer 40k or Own a Mini. I discover WH40k this week and I have already spent 20 hours of watching people play and create the mini. This game is almost a perfect balance of Roleplaying, Lore, strategy, and Art. I really love how beautifully painted the mini are.
Main rule in all warhammer games is to have fun so if you mess up the rules as long as both agree then no problem
@lukapavicevic335
6 жыл бұрын
Mah man
@THISISSPARTA827
6 жыл бұрын
The rules are there for a reason you know.
@hydeheathcliff8028
6 жыл бұрын
Can you remember every rule for your army's with complete accuracy If you say yes your blatantly BS Plus it has been written in the first codex in the rules is have fun
@darkhorse989
6 жыл бұрын
I play mono-codex whenever possible and it's hard to remember all of them. Especially when several units have buffs that overlap. (ie Space Marines)
@hydeheathcliff8028
6 жыл бұрын
Exactly so if you mess you you agree with how to rectify like they did
I don’t even want to think about how much all that stuff cost, both armies + terrain... 😳
37:37 Luka: "Ew. What's the range on their guns?" Josh: "Twelve." Luka: "Booooo." Luka, you just wiped out a Hellhammer and basically put two big Knights out of commission in your first turn! You don't get to boo, you're playing Necrons!
@thefiresworddragon927
5 жыл бұрын
Col 3:23 Productions Yeah, it's not like a Baneblade can 1v1 a Monolith in Dark Crusade. Or, you know, the guy specifically targeted the massive threats like a smart person and takes them down before they can do any damage at all. It's almost like he was being strategic.
@obsidianbladeproductions4474
5 жыл бұрын
The Firesword Dragon I am not commenting on the strategy, I am commenting on the sportsmanship of booing the range of flamethrowers when he just bombarded most of his heavy hitters from across the table. Josh just lost, arguably, some of his best chances at winning, and he didn’t even get to play his turn yet, and Luka is booing his flamers? That is why I comment.
@thefiresworddragon927
5 жыл бұрын
Col 3:23 Productions Yeah, but how many flamethrowing weapons can hit at that distance? Unlike you, I actually know distance, and he was using large weapons. Long range weapons are supposed to hit at range. Flamethrowers are not snipers. There's no such thing as a flamethrower sniper. Even in Starlink Battle For Atlas when it is a laser shooter, it still has very limited range. I would not be surprised if you got made about a Gauss Pylon hitting across a table when it is an AA.
@obsidianbladeproductions4474
5 жыл бұрын
@@thefiresworddragon927 I don't give two craps about range. More specifically, I don't care that an AA weapon can hit from across the table - it would be stupid for it not to! My criticism is not about range, it's about the sportsmanship Luka showed. I know it's all in good fun, these guys work together, no offense had been intended. My best friend plays Death Guard and we boo each other all the time. I was merely pointing out the discrepancies between their play styles and offering my own "analysis" of the situation. And the fact that you couldn't take my peanut gallery jocularity as jocularity is quite honestly just blowing my mind. This video is way old, nobody cares, *I* don't even care! It was a joke, dude. Move on.
@thefiresworddragon927
4 жыл бұрын
Col 3:23 Productions Honestly, that sounds like you're complaining.
I wish there were a 10 min edited versions of these with all the dice rolling cut out so I can just see what happens
@inkedsights4929
4 жыл бұрын
At least if we had the timestamps of the game...
@robertchmielecki2580
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, for something that should be cool and epic it's disappointingly tediousl and dull. After 50minutes everything seems to just be right where it started ... WH40K definitely has the problem of being mostly about boring upkeep (rolling and implementing results) rather than decision making and actual gameplay, unfortunately.
@megan00b8
4 жыл бұрын
40k battle reports would be awesome to animate if I knew how, like we all imagine this as short fluid scenes of warriors shooting and slashing each other, massive power armour stomping on enemies trying to damage it's hydraulics n all.
@ridstock9663
4 жыл бұрын
The fact its a 10K point game makes it pretty tedious to watch, i find the 500-1500pts battle reports on youtube much more digestable. With decent editing they last 30-45 mins and its more tactical gameplay, less just march everything forward, more positioning well and picking the right targets with magic/shooting.
@neovo903
4 жыл бұрын
@@ridstock9663 check out "play on tabletop"
That poor Imperial player, im only a half hour in and his dice rolls seem super cursed
@ssboooy4153
3 жыл бұрын
not only that. Necron player had so many lucky rolls, along with the re-rolls. And messed up with the rules for the Ghost Pile-on. Would've changed the outcome with those Knights which could've been effective.
Watching Luka's Dice this game was literally painful...
"We play and call it work." God I am so jealous rn
The callidus assassin screwing with command points sounds like a neat mechanic for what those folks do, causing confusion instead of direct firepower. I think they did other things of that nature in earlier rules, like mispositioning a unit.
I wish GW would add some benefit to going second
@thefiresworddragon927
4 жыл бұрын
Daniel rogers They did. It's called Necrons.
@mustached_villain6354
4 жыл бұрын
You could say that there is a benefit to going second in the movement phase Being that you can see all the sightlines of your enemies and strategise around them. Not worth being shot at first though.
@terryfeynman
4 жыл бұрын
we have a very simple house rule that makes a lot of sense : both turns happen at the same time. So we take turns going through the steps of each round, and when you go first and you kill a unit of mine it is removed once I have taken my step. To remember the losses we simply put dices in the squads to show how much where lost, and put death markers on the big stuff when they die. This way nobody goes second, and it does not really cost that much more time
@nemdenemam9753
4 жыл бұрын
I never got that. Why not have a system like Moba pick phase? One goes first, second goes twice. After that, either keep the double turns or switch back to one at a time. Is there some downside to that? Would double turn be even more OP than going first?
@informationyes
4 жыл бұрын
@@nemdenemam9753that may add too much benefit as 2 whole attack rounds could destroy an army it would need to be like have one group be able to attack next round or going seconds grants more command points
I love the wrecks scattered about as clutter. The table was beautifully put together here. Gotta appreciate a well set playing field.
The Necron Lord’s ‘The Lords Will’ only affects friendly Dynasty infantry, not tanks, so it can not give the Doomsday Arks re-rolls of 1 to wound.
Such an awesome video! Thank you for taking the time to do this for us!
This is the cleanest and quickest battle coverage ive ever seen on YT. 👏
Thanks guys for posting this. Watching the live games helps me understand the rules better. Still new to all this.
mom: just one last video and then you have to go te bed me:
Masterful conflict and production!
I love the sound of the dice falling on this table
I love watching these long unedited battles, I also like 40k in 40mins. But when I have the time I always choose to watch the long videos. Also love the 10k armies
That is REALLY gorgeous Necron Terrain! I love it including the custom borders. :)
Necrons yeahhh. Great batrep. Necrons are definitely strong. I enjoyed watching this video. Thanks.
Congrats Luca, happy War gaming!!
Dunno how you go about beating necrons apocalypse, usually by turn 2/3 both sides are p mushed but w necrons they j come back.. makes it incredibly hard for josh v quickly
That wasn't a battle... It was a slaughter. I didn't think the imperium player was going to have any units left after turn 2
It's midnight and this just came up. I was going to go to bed, looks like now i'm not
Its a joke how much first turn matters in 8th, especially in Apocalypse.
@Zeroground300
5 жыл бұрын
That's been a problem since 6th unfortunately.
@terryfeynman
4 жыл бұрын
we have a very simple house rule that makes a lot of sense : both turns happen at the same time. So we take turns going through the steps of each round, and when you go first and you kill a unit of mine it is removed once I have taken my step. To remember the losses we simply put dices in the squads to show how much where lost, and put death markers on the big stuff when they die. This way nobody goes second, and it does not really cost that much more time
I’ve only been playing for awhile, but I’ve learned that who ever wins initiative wins the game. I prefer the random unit activation of Bolt Action. An entire army moving, shooting, and assaulting before the opponent can respond is crazy.
Team, This was a great battle report. I enjoyed the amiable way you resolved the rule slip. Keep it going and may your dice roll to your advantage. Sincerely, CQ
The dice hitting the board is so satisfying
It bothers me how pointless it is taking any sort of good armour vs necron lists. 5 knights and a superheavy tank. pretty much all gone by turn two without any real damage done on the other side. is there any point?
@mwgjosh5161
6 жыл бұрын
It looked pretty for a minute or so
@FinALIEN93
6 жыл бұрын
Rule of cool dude, rule of cool :P
@WearyWizard
6 жыл бұрын
oh beautiful lol. but one table with 5 knights and that much gauss will get awful unpretty awful fast
@HPmcDoogle
6 жыл бұрын
It's almost as if Necrons have Gauss weaponry designed for destabilizing armor or something :o
@andrewmcnally5013
6 жыл бұрын
Bradders try doing it against old Gauss. It was an amazing time to play Necrons!
So freaking epic! Loved it!
Wow, what an epic and explosive Turn-1 rolling simulator! Seriously, who at Games Workshop is still thinking that it's okay to have games on this scale where ONE PLAYER GOES FIRST WITH HIS ENTIRE ARMY!?
These two are my favorite duo
THIS HAS NECRONS!
@thetranscestor9296
5 жыл бұрын
Congratulations, you appear to have functional eyes.
@thefiresworddragon927
4 жыл бұрын
Thobias Sandst Oh really, we couldn't tell!
Literally my favorite video MWG has done. My two favorite reps also. I have to say, if MWG did far more of these, I'd be a vault member for life.
@mwgjosh5161
6 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed :)
I'm sorry Josh, as much as I love Admech the Necrons/Luka win. Almost all of your forces are trapped inside the depths of a tombworld, and the necrons control the transportation gates back to the surface. Your warlord and what few forces he has will not be acquiring reinforcements, and with the power generator at least partially under necron control more and more of them will wake up, to say nothing of the unending swarms of murder scarabs and tomb stalkers not shown in the battle. You may be predominantly skitarii, but the best you'll manage at this point is a fighting retreat back to the surface, and you'll be leaving your robots behind for sure (you broke them to get them to fire all those shots remember?). Necrons almost always come back. Techpriests are not so immortal. Fluff wise, you just don't have the resources to survive on necron home turf long enough to cause permanent damage. You're no Ultrasmurf who can achieve the impossible with spite and a copy of the codex astartes (use as Toilet paper not withstanding). And yes, I watched about the entire game. I'm a bit confused though... were you counting superheavies for extra points, or just things with the titanic keyword? I'm PRETTY sure Monoliths are just heavy supports, not superheavies. Can't say regarding the titanic keyword though.
@lukapavicevic335
6 жыл бұрын
AGREED #TeamLuka
@eldunae922
6 жыл бұрын
Monolits have the titanic keyword It gives them nothing except a weakness for Macro weapon, making a very bad vehicle even worse.
@lukapavicevic335
6 жыл бұрын
You get a bonus point for each TITANIC destroyed, those poor monoliths give points haha
@iraqiwalker1436
5 жыл бұрын
It seems people underestimate the imperium. All those dudes trapped in the tomb world can still overload the power generators and blow the planet up. A.K.A. Strategic and complete victory for the imperium!!!
@christopherstaats3787
5 жыл бұрын
+1 to this! There is no way the Imperium forces would be able to escape and the never ending tide of an awakening Tomb World with so few Imperium forces left on the ground would require exterminatus to stop them.
Congratulations for the TIE 😂😂🙌😉
Necrons are absolutely awesome and terrifying
Can I just say that Luka's voice is super soothing
"shhh! Shhhh!" Trying to get those extra rerolls haha
I know these can be really time consuming, and you need to keep some type of schedule for other campaigns and stuff. That being said I love these massive battle of armies bringing like everything you have. Maybe a once a month thing would be fantastic and a real vault seller imo. I’m already a vault member, but just saying. Thanks guys for the entertainment and laughs you provide in my normally dreary and disabled world I live in. I can play my dream armies through you guys. Steve is my spirit animal. Bucket list while I still wheel around this land is to play Steve in a massive battle. Saving money to drive up there from Southwest Florida.
More of these big battles!
One thing to remember about Binharic Override is that it is used "at the end of any phase", so you wouldn't have been able to use it in the middle of the phase before shooting the Tomb Blades.
THAT is a Necron army! jeeze!
Should of done each table alternate turns to make it more interesting :P
The background music is awesome!!
Awesome armies and terrain!
Whole thing watched! And Necrons win.
nice, 10.000 points! Really loving these special treats. I only have one question though, which is that normally the person that has first turn already has a huge advantage, but in big battles like this, the person that goes second is going to loose 9/10 times. I hope you guys could maybe homebrew some rules for this. maybe that a person that has first turn can choose one of the tables, goes first there, and then the second table the other person goes first.
That vault got ridiculously lucky, it drew atleast 60% of all of its enemy fire power and survived.
lol at those handfuls of dice. Congratulations Luka.
That 80 Warriors shooting is pretty impressive.
Just watched turn one for the Necrons, and i have two tips: Limit dice rolling by mentioning how many wounds you got and just roll saves, or edit out and summarize if an attack did nothing or wasn't important. The other tip is more of an optional houserule i thought of when on another channel some 'Nids destroyed 600 points of 1500 in the first turn... You could rule that whoever goes first can only use half of his/her army, then proceed game as normal. In this setup with two tables it would have been very easy. Starting gives such a huge advantage! Gonna watch the rest now!
@teambellavsteamalice
6 жыл бұрын
And congratulations luka!
I'll admit. I had no idea what was going on the entire time. But I liked it
That Overwatch on the assassin after the 2 hour mark was scary. Had it been T'au sept, all three of those shots would have hit. Ouch.
That Pylon was huge for the game
Legend says Josh's sandals hit and wound on 1's
This was great!
I know of how overcharging things (not Plasma, this has nothing to do with 40K) causes things to output more effectiveness, but causes it to work at a severely reduced rate afterwards for a while. Like a bayonet charge from BF1. After you charge, you can't sprint and I believe you have a slight movement penalty until the charge finishes its cooldown.
Necrons won. They have other power sources, that was just the main one. The overlords, cryptecs and lords can chose to reanimate. They can totally muster more forces because of the scarabs, wraiths from the walls, tomb spiders and rising chumps(warriors)
@nickpaschentis5284
2 жыл бұрын
The Mechanicus while pressing the Big Red Button inside the Tomb the just captured: Xenos go ''Tutututu''.
i have no idea whats going on but im enjoying this :)
Dangit Josh the Thermal Cannon on the Knights Errant were buffed in the codex to a flat D6 shots for all time instead of the D3 you rolled for overwatch
@mwgjosh5161
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah I am pretty sure I caught it after the first overwatch
i like the look of the room ;)
Congratulations, Luka.
I know this is 7 months later, but please more large battles like this!!!!!
Oh yes! Necrons are the best! (Posted before watching.😁)
correct me if I'm wrong, but the Necrons pretty much controlled the only entrance to the tomb world.... time is a weapon. The could continue to reanimate losses while sweeping the area before going back into the tomb world. Necrons win.
@alexanderhammonds2504
Жыл бұрын
They could only reanimate the turn they go down without special cp protocols or resurrection orbs which are all limited resources.
@tykeorama9898
Жыл бұрын
@@alexanderhammonds2504 really? Ghost arks, technomancers, canoptek reanimators....
@alexanderhammonds2504
Жыл бұрын
Those work absolutely. I only disregarded them because I didn't think he had any on the battlefield.
@tykeorama9898
Жыл бұрын
@@alexanderhammonds2504 tis but one battlefield on an entire tomb world.
Nice Video! Thx Guys :)
Thinking about this in the universe of 40k the Imperium got the main objective of capturing the tomb but the Necrons can starve them out from above since the Imperium can not leave the tomb, thusly the Imperium have gotten them selves a new tomb to which they die in. Necrons win overall, unless the Imperium happened to have another chapter nearby to send support to fight off the surface where since the Necrons no longer have their tomb they would not be able to generate more units, then the Imperium wins. But as the forces seem there isn't another chapter close enough thus a portion of the forces would die off and the Necrons can more take back the tomb with less resistance.
Man going first in massive battles like this seems to be a phat advantage with all the shit you can get rid of immediately
Love these massive point games it's actually scary 😂
Happy to see a huge list of Necrons x3 I’m at 6000 points myself and growing. I will say though, why no Doom Scythes. With the cool Necron Stratagem for them and Sautehk rules saying they can fly and shoot heavy weapons with no penalties, that shoulda been a must. Same with running more than one Stalker to strike down high priority targets. But still, happy to see a full tomb world
Here I was thinking my planned 5,000 pt army was too much. lol
question @miniwargaming where do you get your necron themed scenery or do you make it if you make it how and what do you use?
I actually like the narrative of this battle, all the imperium forces fighting to get the planet back from the necrons, Luka and josh do a great job don't worry about the rules mistakes, anyway great job!
@mwgjosh5161
6 жыл бұрын
Glad you had fun watching!
narativly i would say the necrons won that fight due to the fact they have secured the entrance to the tomb all the forces withing the tomb are traped and can not retreat so in time the forces inside would die off iether of starvation or in combat
Ghost? OH Gauss... I was so confused
love the dawn of war buildings
Man those armies are gorgeous
Omnia Ave Deus Machini. The forces of the Omnissiah have secured the centre of the tomb world trapping the Necron forces on the surface, cut off from reinforcements it seems inevitable that the fleet of the Omnissiah will descend with reinforcements and bless the xenos with the fire of the Ordo Reductor. I say its a Adeptus Mechanicus Victory because they control the more valuable board, they can just set up firing circles around the teleporters and gun down any necrons that try to teleport back.
Luka, how you pronounce "Gauss" made me think the weapons were "Ghost" blasters, Flayers, and cannons.
And now necron players also got skarh (or somin like that) I’m so jealous especially when I have a very small model count in my army with only 2 relatively big units (Idoneth)
yessssssss this was brilliant
NOOOOO THERMAL LANCE IS D6! XD so many things to keep track of in that list
Crazy awesome!
Congratulations Luka!
Great game gents. Both armies look amazing, I'm an Imperium/Chaos player (not a Dark Angels joke) but those Necrons are stunning! The boards are absolutely epic, one of the best boards I've ever seen in a bat rep before. My one critique would be, the bat rep was over three hours. I actually spread out my viewing over 2 and half days due to the length. Most bat reps edit out the movement phase unless something really important happened. With an apocalypse game especially, honestly did anyone care where your 60 Necron warriors moved? Nonetheless, that must've been a fun game to play, hopefully some intern was in charge of cleanup cuz I'm sure that took awhile.
i like that you guys are such good sports
@mwgjosh5161
6 жыл бұрын
Oh no trust me I was pretty salty
@lukapavicevic335
6 жыл бұрын
hahahaha
Correction on 33:41, Thermal cannons are now D6 shots instead D3, they did get update on codex.
@THISISSPARTA827
6 жыл бұрын
so much for using all the FAQ...
I will never have time to finish this video... but I want to
@mr_meow7627
6 жыл бұрын
wow... I did it
@tay3533
6 жыл бұрын
haha, then you realize its 3am xD
@geniemiki
6 жыл бұрын
Sleep is only a choice Now that sentence makes no sense, but in my defense it was made at 3am after watching this video^^
56:32 The number of the Beast!
Overlord Akul is alive he is in the reaniamtion chambers and on 99% charge now one tesla guy must kick his charging body and he comes back soooo sorry josh you lost by points and by narative
I really love that necron terrain!! :o Did you guys make those or did you buy them somewhere?? :o
10k points oh my grandpa Nurgle NOTHING REMAINS!!!
Love the scale guys! very entertaining match :)
@nelsoj2788
6 жыл бұрын
Denzil Forde Glad you enjoyed
cool game, liked the imperial force and was astounded by how deadly necrons are. However while the imperials won narratively (had the more important objective and killed the warlord) the necrons definitely won overall