An overlay of victory points and command points would improve watchability by a lot.

@carissamace

3 жыл бұрын

Yes please.

@MrSaltycrackers

3 жыл бұрын

that's a great idea at least between rounds

@Richardthabest

3 жыл бұрын

I disagree, it would keep track of all points etc but this style keeps it homely like you're playing at home. I like it like this. But you should watch play on if you want that overlay, their production is out of this world!

Two of my favorite armies duking it out, win win no matter who takes it.

I've recently fallen into the rabbit hole that is Warhammer, and have just scratched the surface of its complex vastness. One week into following the lore of the Adept Soroitas your content and others have helped me start to understand the strategy and evolution of the different types of gameplay. Especially the fact you have allowed each other to replay turns in order to achieve the best possible outcome of each players units. ♠😎♠"The Emperor Protects!" 👑❤🏆

Btw, regarding SoB: Roll leadership on your Squads even if you can't fail. Every 1 gives you Miracle Dice! Great match, had a lot of fun watching! ;)

@THEZWARRIORWAR

Жыл бұрын

That’s a pain in the ass though lol

Love the batreps with you two; very complimentary personalities and it feels like the games go a lot quicker :)

I rolled perils: PANIK I rerolled: kalm I rolled the opposite perils: PANIK

Okay, what was the most epic duel of the game? Warlord vs Warlord or Rhino vs Immolator

Does he ever use his miracle dice? Lol so many times that 6 would have helped.

@matthewlaxon828

3 жыл бұрын

It’s what I call “consumable fear”: where you feel like you aren’t optimaly using consumable items, such as potions in video games

I'm a simple man i see Sisters i click. Also even if you can't fail a morale test it is good to throw the dice as on a 1 you get a miracle dice. not sure if you forgot a lot of miracle dice as i assumed some might have been rolled off camera.

This was an amazing game. So close and entertain.

The Callidus Assassin strategem is awesome. Culexus assassin is not THAT big a deal, but it's 2CP. When most armies start with 10-12, that's huge.

The mortifiers and penitent engines can both shoot in combat. All vehicles and monsters get big guns never tire.

@shadeling6717

3 жыл бұрын

This. Why the mortifier rule where you can make heavy flamers type pistol i think was errata'd to just mention the heavy bolters can become assault.

As far as tailoring with the Cullexus goes, I think there are things in the game like the Cullexus and Icon of Excess that are so specific in their use that you have to tailor with them otherwise they're not worth the risk of taking and being useless.

When the defiler declared a charge vs the Immolator and the Mortifier, you would not be able to fight at all if you don't make it into close combat with all those targets declared... :S

@Thetallestgirrafe

3 жыл бұрын

They know that, the issue wasn't distance it was space, so they retroactively said that the charge was only against the Mortifier instead. It's why they said the it was all fine, as the Immolator's heavy bolter did nothing.

The penitent engines can fire their weapons in combat because they're vehicles making them sorta better

@chrisyc2k

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah Mortifiers ain’t really worth it in my opinion

@cameronhaynes9983

3 жыл бұрын

Bruh my mortifiers with Heavy Flamers put in serious work. They've always either killed their target with massive overkill or they've absorbed so much fire from my opponent that the rest of my girls are basically unscathed. 10/10 would recommend them

@donutsnwaffles7590

3 жыл бұрын

@@cameronhaynes9983 they aren't completely useless since they explode easier and things like that but zealot and the 5+++ is really nice

@exidorutkowys3000

3 жыл бұрын

Mortifires are better becouse the have adeptas soraritas keyword and can advance and charge so you can go 9+6 (for miracle dice) and 2D6 charge with smaller board size they can put some good work.

@MrSwordJ

3 жыл бұрын

@@cameronhaynes9983 distraction carnifex?

Funny thing Luka remembered to do the proper coherency rules with his retributors but let Dave do all those conga lines

@lukapavicevic335

3 жыл бұрын

It's surprisingly easy to do a tight conga line while maintaining the new coherency rules! All you need to do is have every model within 2 inches of two other models!

@catherinestickels2591

3 жыл бұрын

Both were within the rules, something I've noticed though is that sportsmanship and the spirit of the rules are more important to Luka than the rules themselves, and he is averse to giving himself advantages but isn't super insistent about policing his opponents. I definitely relate, and I will say that's my favorite type of person to play games with.

The statement on what is Mortifiers or Penitent engienes done in the army description is wrong. This is correct: Penitent engines: "piloted" by criminals, often from the Ecclesiarchy. Mortifiers: "Piloted" by repentias who has fled from battle. Anchorites are the ones with coffins, and they are "piloted" by repentia who have betrayed the Sororitas.

@gilledgar2243

3 жыл бұрын

So basicly: male "pilot", penitent. A sister and its a Mortifier.

Awesome rep, every1 gangsta till the army of sorcerers starts marching!

@magnos_decimus

3 жыл бұрын

exactly that's when the metal starts 😜 You know metal fragments falling from the sky because they are on an alien world lol

@magnusthered3692

3 жыл бұрын

🤙

47:41 this rule you are talking about was removed from the profile because they are vehicles and therefore shoot in close combat anyway

When Luka said that the two units couldn't fail their morale test, on the first turn, he should've rolled anyways. You get a miracle die for rolling a 1 on a morale test. The brb states that you take the test if you've taken casualties. Doesn't say that you aren't able to take it if you can't fail the test.

Yesss buzzing for this! Just started sisters

Just an FYI Repentia don't have 32mm bases in 9th. They have 28.5mm bases. The Repentia Superia, however, does have the 32mm.

That moment when cultists do a fuck ton of damage compare to TZEENTCH DAMNED TERMINATORS

25:05 touching the stairs with the bases would already be enough to be able to see through the terrain piece. Nit neccessary to stay on top of them. This is not only by the rules, it also makes narrative sense. This altar ia relatively open anyway so advancing to the staris should be sufficient to give you a good look into the ruins

Thought the casket represented an anchronite. The difference between pentinent and mortifier is that the later only uses sisters and the former other citizens of the imperium, right?

@Dante-ot8xg

3 жыл бұрын

k, looks like mort are for repentia who fled in the face of combat. Pent engines can be just about anyone including sisters. But the tomb is for Anchorite s. normal Mortifiers are exposed. But rule of cool says the tomb is bad ass

The buildings are ancient structures that have stood the test of time

41:48 the 6s to wound are actually -2 AP due to lukas rites and same for the bolters at 43:37

With mortifiers it's a risk-reward unit. If you only use one unit of them they will never pay off. When one unit gets into the thick of melee they always trade up for me. Also, they only work if you are playing an aggressive list. if the rest of your list sits back then the opponent will just gun them down as they are the closest threat. I run three units of mortifiers and two units of repentia in rhinos after one or two turns into the game they have gutted my opponent most of my matches. This is also just my opinion after playing against grey knights, thousand sons, Necrons, knights, and Imperial guard tank company. In the end, they are not an "oh I'll play one and see how they do" type unit. They have to be built around.

Damn, that hair color actually works with that cut. Stark contrast from Punk Rock Luka.

Mortifiers with Heavy bolters is something you could try, so when you move them forward you also shoot a lot of shots. Imho it was a good game but it felt like you need to have double the repentia squads. They do actual work so you had potential to remove much more enemy units if you had them on both flanks.

If loving the apple of Khorne is wrong, I don't want to be right! Thanks for sharing!

Hey miniwargamming love your video Expressly when you post the sisters of battle Battle report. Next time you guys make another bottle report with sisters of battle can you try to include the triumphant of Saint katherine omz really want to see her in action

Engines are like a distraction carnifex, either they draw fire from your other ranged stuff and die, or they get in close and do lots of damage

Ive played a few sister games in 9th. MY list is: +Bloody Rose+ Stern and her fuk boi melee beast cannoness with blade of admonion and indomniable belief (heroine in the making) Warlord Celestine with her Superia to soak wounds Kathrine (all them faith dice) 4 sister squads each with: 2 bolters, sup with cplasma, sister w/Melta and sister w/ H flame 8 repentia with a vet sup 4 Zephrym and a sup with pendant 4 stormbolter dominions with a vet and a cplas (Blessed bolts squad) 4 seraphim, 2 more with hand flamers, a vet with a pp and a power sword 2 Exorsists with the exo missles. 4 Retributors with heavy bolters and a sup with a cplas then a rhino for the repentia I did tweak my list for the new weapon changed as well but so far ive been extremely satisfied with how they perform. Occationally I take Mortifiers, they are hands down better than pen engis. I get SO MANY faith dice every round.

Presents Retributors: "This is a nine man squad." *Sisters scowling in female.*

I actually really like Mortifiers but I've only really experienced using them in smaller games. When you're at 1000pts and below they can make a very good, very cheap distraction carnifex that keeps your opponent occupied while also allowing your troops to take and sit on objectives. I intend to run them in conjunction with 1 or 2 Exorcists to really put pressure on my opponent, but then again I play Valorous Heart so play more static infantry rather than transports.

at 1:17:27, shouldn't a miracle dice been gained by unmodified moral test of 1?

@40:30 Repentia are on 28.5 mm bases, not 32mm (except the superior of course)

Game looks really fun and relaxed to do, only problem is storage space and room for a big ass table....

Dave, I miss you calling the defilers Deffy

why does lots of ppl like the order of the martyred lady? valorous heart or the bloody roses seems much btter than them(just askin)

I want to see all of those Mortifiers and Penitent Engines go against a Khorne army.

Is there a reason that many Thousand Sons players don’t field Forgefiends? I often see Maulers in army lists, but rarely do I see more ranged support in the form of Helbrutes, Forgefiends, or Defilers (though the latter seems a little more common). I am new to 40K and want to start a 1K Sons army and looking through their stat sheets, the above-named units seem strong in 9th Edition. Apologies in advance for my newbiness and a big shout-out to the channel for such great content and sportsmanship! Thanks, guys! ❤️

Cullexis Assassin is my favorite one because of how tanky it is.

Missed the -ap on 6s a few times.

Good game but you kept forgetting the +1 to hit for martyered lady

How’d you get the backpack on that warlord psyker? The one with the blue flames on the backpack?

@briancripps496

3 жыл бұрын

Standard backpack in the Thousand Sons exalted sorcerer kit.

I prefer tzaangors to cultist these days. Especially was a shaman on disc for support. A little more expensive but when they work it’s such a good value trade

@winniechurchill8402

3 жыл бұрын

Do you run Tzaangors with just the blades or with chainswords and pistols?

@ragnarbaron6090

3 жыл бұрын

@@winniechurchill8402 blades. Because hitting on 2s in melee with rerolls from the shaman is op as fuck. I’ve literally decimated a space marine squad which is a great points trade. There not as good as blood letters but when they work it can be a game changer. Just remember on the end they are there to die and they will

Luka lookin fiiiiine :P, fun BR.

I only take Mortifiers and I always use them in Strategic Reserves with trying to keep a 5 or a 6 miracle dice to help the 9 inch charge. But run three to four with flails. 15 attacks a piece at str 6, AP -2. Not much can survive a round of combat.

@lostaris

3 жыл бұрын

Mortifiers do not have acts of faith, so cannot use miracle dice.

Wow the emperor protects!

Hey everyone! Don't you need to choose if you will be using a miracle dice BEFORE the dice roll? I saw that the guy always did it after the roll. I'm I wrong?

is the "conga line" placement for units where they dont touch at least 2 other models banned??? Is there something im missing?

@TheCinderfang

3 жыл бұрын

Didnt see where it was but with some conga lines "1" is right beside "2" but also within range of "3" if set up right.

I honestly think Our Martyred Lady is only good if you just swamp the board with infantry

@gdthedragon1

3 жыл бұрын

Well it would have been much better if he remembered to apply the +1 to hit, after a model was slain more than once. Especially for the Repentia this would have made a huge impact, rerolling 3+ instead of 4+......

I thought on a charge roll you could only use one miracle die, so when he charged with the repentia sisters he shoulda rolled one die. Or am I mistaken on how those work?

@Mobius1105

3 жыл бұрын

No, you can only use an “act of faith” for one roll per phase, but “one or more” miracle dice per act of faith. Since a charge is just one roll using two dice you can replace both dice with miracle dice

Put penitent engines in reserve, 1 squad of 3 cost only 1CP to put them in reserve

Can someone explain to me why they don't disembark their APCs? Isn't it strategically more advantageous that you have extra pieces on the BF that are able to move and hit your enemy, rather than to have one target for them the enemy can focus on? Seems to be smarter to disembar, and shoot with the APC and the disembarked troops at the same time. Or use the APC for "overwatch"?

Fear the charge of the Emulsifiers!

Would a culexus assassin affect your psykers as well as the enemies?

Sisters? Dope.

Imagine if the Defiler got its buff's before this battle rep. It would hit on 2's, rerolling 1's cause of the exalted sorceror and would be rerolling failed wounds in the turn it had presience and daemonforge on it.

Spoilers... Would it not have been possible to move the two melta sisters to take the objective at the end of turn 5? They just had to be within 3” of the objective so no trouble being blocked by the cultist. And even if there was they could have just charged the cultist and probably killed it in melee no?

@Razputain20

3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking that too. Would have bumped him the 5 points he needed to win, but they were playing quick so I guess it was just overlooked.

@MarkAndTerra

3 жыл бұрын

I believe they Fell Back, but he could have used a strat to allow them to shoot and charge still.

Go get em SOB!

Why was he not rolling for moral when he knew he’d get it, he could’ve generated more miracle dice, although he didn’t really use his miracle dice that much to begin with, maybe I’m missing something

You go over the Sisters deployment but no Tsons deployment?

I didn't see Luka roll for the Cannones emergency disembark.

dunno why you don't try do something like gluing the smaller bases on top of the new larger ones and doing some base remodeling, your models will be a little taller admittedly but don't think that will be too big an issue?

So Luca now knows how Tyranids feel cant really bring most of the big stuff since they die so easily and most of the small stuff has a bad save

Wait individual models can gain the benefits of terrain/cover even if the entire unit isn't within said terrain? S.o.B! I've been playing that wrong lol.

@TheCinderfang

3 жыл бұрын

You can do it that way but you have to run wounds seperate so you can only do such as long as they survive enough wounds. Same idea as allocating to a model with a storm shield.

Deffy looking kinda Blue not gonna lie XD

cannonness was the commander that luka killed twice in same turn

5:38 - "immola🎵SH🎵ion cannons"

27:55 you have the warlord trait to reroll 1s ....

Trees dont apply to the penitent engine and neither to the Rpeentias because they are out of the forests

Liking the facial hair here Luka, fashionable!

I don't feel bad about the Stratagem. I hate Callidus Assassins though. Stratagems are fun, and denying your opponent fun on a 4+ just doesnt sit right with me.

im pretty sure he brought his commander back to life with 2 wounds then his commander got charged... surely the sorcerer couldn't charge as the commander model should not have been replaced onto the field yet? ..... this is what you get when you do things too early i guess

Good looking haircut and beard trim Luka.

Love the bat rep, thanks guys! Just a small thing - Luka, Mortifiers are a 'she' (they are battle sisters who became repentia who then subsequently ran away from battle).

Are you guys sure about those rules for the sisters?

Anyone know where Vito is? He taking a break?...I hope

@shadeling6717

3 жыл бұрын

He no longer works at MWG. He is doing his own painting studio i believe. i forgot what it is called. They had a tweet or facebook promoting him a little bit ago

coherency is a thing btw, check out those Rubrics on turn2.. conga line not allowed anymore.

@lukapavicevic335

3 жыл бұрын

Time Stamp? I find a lot of people aren't understanding the coherency rules properly. All that's required is to be within 2 inches of two other models, that's still relatively easy to make a conga line with!

@RedInkCat

3 жыл бұрын

Just need to dogbone - little triangle of 3 on either end - and you can technically still conga-line. Hella dangerous if 1 model dies, but still allowed

@MRLOLLAST123

3 жыл бұрын

​@@lukapavicevic335 1:03:28 he does a dog bone at the bottom but the rubric top on the on the objective is on in coherecy

@MRLOLLAST123

3 жыл бұрын

@@racer951y 1:03:28 he does a dog bone at the bottom but the rubric top on the on the objective is on in coherecy

Mortifiers desperately need to be equipped with heavy bolters. 2 Mortifiers is the equivalent of 4 retributors with heavy bolters except they can also advance shoot and then charge for 1 cp.

I am just learning the Sisters, so thanks for a prime example.

Battle sisters! :D

OML repentias hit on 3s after taking damage. Could have viped the termies there. Not that it mattered much.

@frankcalabretta8710

3 жыл бұрын

That's not the rule any more. 3+ WS and Eviscerators subtract 1 from hit rolls, that's it.

@levonleastman8054

3 жыл бұрын

@@frankcalabretta8710 Yes, however OoML get a +1 to hit after losing a unit. Same with retributors later once they are in melee.

@frankcalabretta8710

3 жыл бұрын

@@levonleastman8054 Oh snap, I play bloodied rose, lol

@levonleastman8054

3 жыл бұрын

@@frankcalabretta8710 yeah. I tend to add a small patrol of BR to add some hard punch to my OoML. Love throwing repentia in strategic reserves for that interrupting slam to stop others from getting to close

@MRLOLLAST123

3 жыл бұрын

@@frankcalabretta8710 OML gets +1 to hit in both melee and shooting if one model has been killed in the unit.

45:32 repentia are not on 32mm bases, they come with 28mm bases

@Luka Immolation Flamers! :P

If I was rolling 1k sons against the ladies I’d prolly roll something like this: 20x tzaangors 1x tzaangors shaman on disk 3x exalted with bows on disk 10x rub marines 10 x rub marines 5 x scarab terms Daemon prince with wings 2 x exalted sorcerers on foot 2 x maulerfiends Maybe 3 mauler fiends and scrape the exalted with bows. Amirin on a disk Rush the fiends and tzangors forward with the maulerfiends and use the rubrics to sit on your cap points, drop the scarabs in on wave 2. That gives you 8 casters in the game.

Should have picked the +3 to deny sacred rite.

I am asking this not to be rude but because I am still trying to learn. Are you guys using the 9th edition command reroll rules? If so, are you doing it wrong? lol... They limited the situations in which you can use a reroll, but also you're supposed to reroll all the dice, not just one.

Luca looks fresh :)

Luka looks so cute in this episode 🥺

@lukapavicevic335

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! haha

who won?

I like the Chaos wound counters Dave uses on his Rhinos. Are they a custom order purchase or did he make them?

@Menntok

3 жыл бұрын

TNT Laserworks I believe

Luuuuuuka, repentia's are on 28mm not 32mm

Wait... Dave WON?!

Is this channel monetized?If yes, how can he use gw art for the thumbnail?

"Can I see on your unit card where it says you can do whatever you want and take back whatever moves you'd like?"

@Waywardpaladin

3 жыл бұрын

Neither of them are playing Space Marines.

@frankcalabretta8710

3 жыл бұрын

@@Waywardpaladin Ok, I LOL'd

Cool rep! Pretty sure the Mortifiers are women, right? They're sisters, I think. Or should we say Iron maiden? :D So they get some extra rules that Penitents dont get.