The True WINTERFELL according to the books, EPIC 3d model, tour and comparison

Winterfell, the mighty castle of House Stark as seen in George R. R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire series is actually very different from its depiction in the popular TV series Game of Thrones. In this video I explain what's different in the books compared to the TV series and reveal what Winterfell should truly look like with a full 3d model that I spent weeks making.
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Apparently the Winterfell SketchUp file is too big to upload to the warehouse so if you're wanting the main SketchUp file you can download it here: drive.google.com/open?id=14e8...
The Winterfell assets can be found here: drive.google.com/open?id=1C3o...

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  • @shadiversity
    @shadiversity4 жыл бұрын

    Unsurprisingly the Winterfell SketchUp file is too big for the SketchUp warehouse’s allowance so if you’re wanting a copy of the file you can find a download link at the bottom of the video’s description. Hope you enjoy and if you do end up using the model for something I’d love to see it so please remember to tweet me the results.

  • @barrybend7189

    @barrybend7189

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hey Shad please do a fight analysis of the fights in Gundam Iron Blooded Orphans. No beam guns no beam sabers just good old metal weapons and industrial tools.

  • @noelebbert9322

    @noelebbert9322

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'm on fall break at uni. Was supposed to go to chemistry, didn't today, got some back pain and it's my last morning class before i'm off for a few days. I haven't missed any days so far, no harm no foul. Your video was divine justification that i was supposed to skip class today before my long drive home. Thanks m8. When i get some extra cash I've been wanting to buy your novel! Can I hire you to come to dinner parties with me ? Hey, This is my friend shad, he's a NOVELIST. ~watches faces of my opponents light up with amazement for underestimating my friends~. love the channel shad thanks.

  • @robertthebruce6035

    @robertthebruce6035

    4 жыл бұрын

    You brought castle Honorguard to Unreal engine... Thats bloody awesome!

  • @timotheemathon9492

    @timotheemathon9492

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hey Shad ! I'm a concept artist and mattepainter working for the Game/Movie industry Would you want me to make some fully rendered Cinematographic shots of your 3D model as if they were out of a movie? This would be a pleasure to make ! Thanks for the vid !

  • @wilberdebeer4696

    @wilberdebeer4696

    4 жыл бұрын

    Please do Casterly Rock as well, the show butchered it.

  • @emilianohubera4163
    @emilianohubera41634 жыл бұрын

    I see why Sansa was so angry when Robert Arryn destroy her snow model of Winterfell

  • @agent5866

    @agent5866

    4 жыл бұрын

    The giant did it, Not noble lord Robert.

  • @m1tthrawnuru0d06

    @m1tthrawnuru0d06

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sansa: "I spent 5 months building that!"

  • @emilianohubera4163

    @emilianohubera4163

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@agent5866 That fucking giant got what was coming to him (got, see what I did there? got? jeje, Im so funny)

  • @daddyleon

    @daddyleon

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sansaversity!

  • @h3lblad3

    @h3lblad3

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@daddyleon, Shanshavershity

  • @Seallussus
    @Seallussus4 жыл бұрын

    Who would make a more authentic, realistic, and epic Winterfell? HBO with nearly unlimited resources Or a nerdy boi with sketchup and a fondness for castles?

  • @prestonbrower762

    @prestonbrower762

    4 жыл бұрын

    But what about dragons?

  • @prophetofbeans6781

    @prophetofbeans6781

    4 жыл бұрын

    The Lord of Winterfell bent the knee rather than face that kind of headache from the Targs

  • @camerongooch9606

    @camerongooch9606

    4 жыл бұрын

    Dont forget hes also Australian

  • @TheCozz95

    @TheCozz95

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'd say Shads relationship with castles is much too intense to be described as a mere fondness

  • @Seallussus

    @Seallussus

    4 жыл бұрын

    The true extent of his love for castles is unimaginable

  • @giovannitigalo7011
    @giovannitigalo7011 Жыл бұрын

    I love how huge all the castles in ASOIAF are. It’s like ehh screw it, some ancient magical race built them, no explanation needed beyond that. Big castles are just freaking cool

  • @andrewcody2181

    @andrewcody2181

    11 ай бұрын

    Well, Brandon, the builder, had the help of giants and the children of the forest.

  • @giovannitigalo7011

    @giovannitigalo7011

    11 ай бұрын

    @@andrewcody2181 According to Westerosi myths. It makes more sense that it was some ancient race.

  • @juniornisthal2216

    @juniornisthal2216

    9 ай бұрын

    @@giovannitigalo7011 well children of the forest would be “an ancient race” as would giants…

  • @starking2162

    @starking2162

    5 ай бұрын

    ⁠@@juniornisthal2216plus Brandon is a direct descendant of Garth Greenhand from the age of heroes, so he likely had magic himself, on top of giants, CotF, and more

  • @juniornisthal2216

    @juniornisthal2216

    5 ай бұрын

    @@starking2162 Brandon is not a direct descendant. Thats just a theory.

  • @doesnotexist305
    @doesnotexist3052 жыл бұрын

    Winterfell is huge. It’s a pretty big deal. Now you know why it’s so significant that Bran the Builder (who built the Wall) also built Winterfell.

  • @owenfeye6061

    @owenfeye6061

    Жыл бұрын

    Bran would have only built the oldest portion of the castle. As the Stark’s power and influence grew through the ages, so did castle and structures. The only part of Winterfell we can accurately attribute to Bran the Builder is The First Keep, The Godswood, and The Crypts

  • @bloodmuffins793

    @bloodmuffins793

    Жыл бұрын

    And the gatehouse at Harrenhal alone is as big as Winterfell. I really wish they would have gotten the scale of these castles right in the show

  • @floridaball4896

    @floridaball4896

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bloodmuffins793 no it's as big as the great keep of winterfell which is still huge

  • @bloodmuffins793

    @bloodmuffins793

    Жыл бұрын

    @@floridaball4896 Nah I'm pretty sure it's the kitchens at Harrenhal that are as big as Winterfell's great keep

  • @n1ppe

    @n1ppe

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bloodmuffins793 No. Those kitchens are as big as Winterfells *great hall,* not the entire great keep. I'm reading acok right now and it definetly said that the gatehouse of Harrenhal is as big as Winterfells great keep, not the entire Winterfell.

  • @Riku-zv5dk
    @Riku-zv5dk4 жыл бұрын

    TV Winterfell: Looks like a small castle with misplaced architecture. Shad's Winterfell: Looks like the capital and heart of the North.

  • @DerPolygonianer

    @DerPolygonianer

    4 жыл бұрын

    Especially considering that the north is almost as big as all the southern Kingdoms combined it feels weird having Winterfell be a fraction of the Size of Casterly Rock, Kings Landing or Riverrun. And even if they wanted to go with a smaller size for the Castle they should still have put a normal town somewhere in the general vicinity.

  • @Riku-zv5dk

    @Riku-zv5dk

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@DerPolygonianer Also they kept saying the North had such a small population compared to the other seven, which was just annoying. Compared to the other seven realms it has an average population, problem is it is spread out over an area bigger than any of the others. Dorne has the small population, the North just has its spread about.

  • @DerPolygonianer

    @DerPolygonianer

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Riku-zv5dk It definitely has a much lower population Density, but there is no good Reason why the North should have a lower Population than the Vale. The Numbers are kind of hard to estimate in the book. The north supposedly only has a Million people living there. But some things don't really add up. Also, for the most part the only numbers we ever get is soldiers. And Soldiers only make up a fraction of a working economy. We never ever see any farms in the series though. And nobody believes that they would only have farms in the Reach and transport all the Grain across the Country. That would give the Reach a Power that would make them the undisputed Ruler over Westeros.

  • @jmcc4566

    @jmcc4566

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@DerPolygonianer And make the Reach the permanent centre of conflict . . .

  • @adamwhitehead7289

    @adamwhitehead7289

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@DerPolygonianer That's TV logic. In the books, the estimated population of the North is more like 4-5 million (about the same as the Vale and the Riverlands), which is far more realistic.

  • @gallifreyarchives4434
    @gallifreyarchives44344 жыл бұрын

    Next do King’s Landing. Shad three years later, “The walls are done.”

  • @reiyya9377

    @reiyya9377

    4 жыл бұрын

    Harrenhal would be truly EPIC. But that would take an eternity to build.

  • @gallifreyarchives4434

    @gallifreyarchives4434

    4 жыл бұрын

    Reiyya maybe he could do Dragonstone

  • @Chorochronchotor

    @Chorochronchotor

    4 жыл бұрын

    Id wager Shad will have all the castles of Westeros modeled and the friggin last book still wont be finished. :D

  • @gallifreyarchives4434

    @gallifreyarchives4434

    4 жыл бұрын

    Dominik Strnad if he does do all the castles, we have our map for a good Song of Ice and Fire video game. Lol

  • @andrasbiro3007

    @andrasbiro3007

    4 жыл бұрын

    Of course someone already did it in Minecraft. kzread.info/dash/bejne/c6Rp19ygf7HXdZc.html

  • @barrywhittingham6154
    @barrywhittingham61542 жыл бұрын

    According to the wiki, firewood would not be as essential for heating though it would still be needed for cooking. This is because: "Winterfell has been built around an ancient godswood and over natural hot springs. The water is piped through walls and chambers to heat them, making Winterfell more comfortable than other castles during the harsh northern winters."

  • @prcervi

    @prcervi

    2 жыл бұрын

    and in all the small houses and buildings? that is a lot of pipework being done wood fires are also just a nice aesthetic and good for the human psyche

  • @barrywhittingham6154

    @barrywhittingham6154

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@prcervi I did say 'as essential'. You'd still need and use it - just not as much.

  • @crownregis

    @crownregis

    Жыл бұрын

    Watercooling/heating the Winterfell keep like its Linus's new house

  • @barrywhittingham6154

    @barrywhittingham6154

    Жыл бұрын

    Obviously, this would limit the heating effect to the original stone buildings built by Bran the Builder but it could keep the roofs of those buildings clear of snow and ice - the TV rooftops are actually feasible, even sensible, if all they have to cope with is meltwater runoff.

  • @barrywhittingham6154

    @barrywhittingham6154

    Жыл бұрын

    And you could even use that runoff to fill underground cisterns such as Shad has done in his own Honorguard.

  • @dansomething7742
    @dansomething77422 жыл бұрын

    8:30 Winterfell is referred to as a uniquely large castle within the books a lot. Harrenhall is bigger than Winterfell (Harrenhall is grotesquely large), but Riverrun definitely isn't. That to one side, this is insane. I'm getting a headache just looking at this. To be fair GRRM has acknowledged that he's really bad at scale so I dont think he knew Winterfell would be this absurdly big

  • @brianmerritt5410

    @brianmerritt5410

    Жыл бұрын

    It makes sense that it's this large though. The Stark territory is massive and the castle had been slightly remodeled as the 8000 years went by.

  • @dansomething7742

    @dansomething7742

    Жыл бұрын

    @@brianmerritt5410 except The North is mostly empty. Them having enough men to garrison a castle this size would put a significant strain on resources

  • @failtolawl

    @failtolawl

    Жыл бұрын

    I think that it's rather fair because it was Bran the builder who made Winterfell. Unless he made the old keep and tower?

  • @legbiter1462

    @legbiter1462

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dansomething7742 The North has a similar population to dorne and the Vale, it’s nowhere near as empty as people make it seem.

  • @dansomething7742

    @dansomething7742

    Жыл бұрын

    @Legbiter 14 true but it's much bigger. Which makes it comparatively emptier

  • @lorettoponton7218
    @lorettoponton72184 жыл бұрын

    It's actually very logical that Winterfell walls are so big, for all that we know, it was constructed in a time when people fought with giants on a regular basis

  • @legbiter1462

    @legbiter1462

    4 жыл бұрын

    Giants actually helped build winterfell.

  • @lelouche25

    @lelouche25

    4 жыл бұрын

    Bran the Builder had the help of Giants to build winterfell. A theory about the castle actually says it was the site the war for the dawn was won. Hence the name, Winterfell.

  • @Hernameispamela

    @Hernameispamela

    4 жыл бұрын

    40 ft of snow on the outside during winter, walls have to be big.

  • @neriumsuitedher

    @neriumsuitedher

    4 жыл бұрын

    I imagine it needs to be so big for when Winter comes and the North becomes impassable. There are glass gardens and hot springs, a great place to winter.

  • @tyebrown2741

    @tyebrown2741

    4 жыл бұрын

    Id say its more to do with the stagnation of technology It doesn't seem to ever improve in the asoiaf universe after the andals byt whern you are constantly warring in peacetime you are probably going to keep improving your defences and after thousands of years you end up with a beast like Winterfell

  • @RedGeist
    @RedGeist4 жыл бұрын

    Send this to George, he might hate fanfiction but he LOVES fan art, especially something as detailed and historically respectful as this

  • @warrengouldthorpe5091

    @warrengouldthorpe5091

    4 жыл бұрын

    Just imagine this in a game engine like the unreal engine, with complete interiors and the catacombs below the castle, that would be awesome

  • @nikki607

    @nikki607

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@warrengouldthorpe5091 I don't think there's an engine strong enough to handle something this big. Especially if we're talking open-world of the entirety of Westeros

  • @warrengouldthorpe5091

    @warrengouldthorpe5091

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@nikki607 thats actually a good point maybe in 20/30 years there might be but if there was a game based around westeros they probably would shrink the map down to make it smaller so computers and games consoles could handle it, a bit like how skyrim is meant to be a massive continent and each city is ment to be massive but isn't

  • @50733Blabla1337

    @50733Blabla1337

    4 жыл бұрын

    Acutally this would be fairly easy. All those houses and walls are pretty low poly and the textures are not that high rez. if you would make the interior lowpoly aswell it would work easily. How do you think Witcher III is possible otherwise? - > Studied 3D Art and Game Design

  • @yorickpostema2378

    @yorickpostema2378

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@50733Blabla1337 You could do it with high resolution, the way you can do it is with level streaming. You can unload alot of things once you are in the city, You can make it like skyrim handles it. This way you can have massive cities without loosing performance. You could even make subsections in the city with loading screens. And the loadingscreens would not even be that long, although you will loose immersiveness by adding the loadingscreens.

  • @RafaMieses
    @RafaMieses Жыл бұрын

    My understanding was that winter fell was made basically so the entire north could retreat to it during the harsher (imagine an extra long winter means extra years) winters. It stores a large percentage of the north food supply for winter

  • @fairarizkiano3845

    @fairarizkiano3845

    Жыл бұрын

    in the show, the size of winterfell confused me because if they're going to shelter so many people and store food for the people, shouldn't the castle size be huge?

  • @batadija6627
    @batadija66272 жыл бұрын

    Riverrun is actually nowhere near the size of Winterfell. Winterfell is probably the 2nd largest man-made castle in Westeros after Harrenhal (Casterly Rock is basically a carved out mountain).

  • @metallicoustic6733

    @metallicoustic6733

    Жыл бұрын

    as opposed to the naturally-occuring castles of course

  • @k-la-k6828

    @k-la-k6828

    Жыл бұрын

    @@metallicoustic6733 What? You haven't heard of Squirrel-made castles?

  • @metallicoustic6733

    @metallicoustic6733

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AstaraBrightwing talking castles here

  • @Ariaasu

    @Ariaasu

    Жыл бұрын

    @@metallicoustic6733 Valyrians build their castles using dragons and magic 🤷🏽‍♀️

  • @sadiqahmed4143

    @sadiqahmed4143

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Ariaasu Forts (No castles except Dragonstone which is more fort

  • @mr.jglokta191
    @mr.jglokta1914 жыл бұрын

    "Lord Stark the dead are attacking!" "They can try..."

  • @ambuknight1567

    @ambuknight1567

    4 жыл бұрын

    If only they did this Castle design. Now I want Shad make a castle model form Eragon the Dwarf city known as Furthrs Dul the first city in the dwarf capital. With the red crystal Rose included cuase the book makes me think it's the Whole Gosh Dam Mountain. While the movie... Made it..... Alot small

  • @mooshlovely639

    @mooshlovely639

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ambuknight1567 well the movie isn't known for being very good

  • @ambuknight1567

    @ambuknight1567

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@mooshlovely639 I know I have I watch and read the movie and books. And honestly I don't understand why they treated like a Syfy Asylum fantasy movie in it's source material.

  • @josh223

    @josh223

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ambuknight1567 and now i need to reread this whole series the third time

  • @fyrnenskulman6071

    @fyrnenskulman6071

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ambuknight1567 took me a bit to figure out what we are talking about, since in my native language it has another (nonetheless similar ) name. But you are right, the movie was extremely disappointing😣

  • @jonathangiese5727
    @jonathangiese57274 жыл бұрын

    If Winterfell, supposedly a conservatively sized castle, looks like this, then I am seriously scared what Harrenhal looks like.

  • @robertmartinu8803

    @robertmartinu8803

    4 жыл бұрын

    There is a reason being lord of Harrenhal is considered cursed. Either you know you can't afford it, or you'll learn the hard way.

  • @Jaggaraz218

    @Jaggaraz218

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'm pretty sure that Winterfell was considered to be quite large even in the Song of Ice and fire universe

  • @valhar2000

    @valhar2000

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's the size of New York.

  • @nikolajsteffensen6578

    @nikolajsteffensen6578

    4 жыл бұрын

    if i remember right the towers of Harrenhal were said to be so tall they would touch the clouds.

  • @josht6633

    @josht6633

    4 жыл бұрын

    Winterfell is 1/3 the size of Harrenhall if I remember correctly, I think the Godswood is somewhere around 20 acres.

  • @letivarys9607
    @letivarys9607 Жыл бұрын

    I think sometimes people forgot that Winterfell was once a kingdom. All of the seven great houses was once a kingdom, so it make sense that it would be massive since it was an ancient castle that used to house a king. Even when I was watching the series I kept thinking "Why is Winterfell so small, if it was once a kingdom, where would the northeners live?"

  • @davidkassl2799

    @davidkassl2799

    Жыл бұрын

    Winterfell being a kingdom does not affect the size of its kings' castle. There are huge and small kingsdoms even today, and the king of Sweden will have a bigger castle than the king of Agbassa (Nigeria). Also, we have a real united Kingdom in our world (it is calles United Kingdom) and the castles of their once separate kingdoms are of different size.

  • @letivarys9607

    @letivarys9607

    Жыл бұрын

    @@davidkassl2799 yes I completely agree. But Winterfell in the series, to me! Is too small. More like a lord's house rather than fit for a king. Especially if it should house some of its citizens in the long winters.

  • @nothing-oj1sz

    @nothing-oj1sz

    Жыл бұрын

    @@letivarys9607 Northerners under Stark rule would not live IN Winterfell, they would live around it. Only the King and his family lives in the castle called Winterfell.

  • @MrNinja543

    @MrNinja543

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@letivarys9607 the north is the most vast of the kingdoms they're not going to all live in Winterfell. That's how you get a rats nest like kings landing

  • @connordonohoe5903

    @connordonohoe5903

    Жыл бұрын

    The north was its own kingdom not winterfell that would be a tiny kingdom

  • @derricksteward4483
    @derricksteward4483 Жыл бұрын

    This castle is so defensible it looks like they could hold back the armies of the dead.

  • @gabrielalejandrodoldan4722

    @gabrielalejandrodoldan4722

    8 ай бұрын

    Of corse!

  • @cheesecakeisgross4645

    @cheesecakeisgross4645

    5 ай бұрын

    Then the geniuses chose to fight outside it.

  • @idontspeakjapanese6289

    @idontspeakjapanese6289

    Ай бұрын

    @@cheesecakeisgross4645 Let's hope GRRM would rid us of that

  • @nayandusoruth2468
    @nayandusoruth24684 жыл бұрын

    Shad: "100 000 people could be on those walls in the case of a big battle" Battle of Winterfell: *places majority of army outside*

  • @kaptenlemper

    @kaptenlemper

    4 жыл бұрын

    Wouldn't make much of a difference if the White Walkers could besiege the castle indefinitely - the defenders would run out of food at some point, what with that amount of people manning the defenses.

  • @GanzBestimmt

    @GanzBestimmt

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@kaptenlemper That's probably true. But that would mean Winterfell binds the majority of the White Walker forces for the siege over a long amount of time instead of adding it's defenders right to the enemy forces. Almost like it was designed for exactly that purpose...

  • @arvinvillaluz5097

    @arvinvillaluz5097

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@GanzBestimmt but the white walkers have infinite amount of time. Will never get hungry or tired. So... having yourself and an army of hundred thousand confined in a castle would still be a bad idea.

  • @DaenerysTargaryenTheQueen

    @DaenerysTargaryenTheQueen

    4 жыл бұрын

    In the show version of Winterfell, there is no chance that 100.000 people could be inside Winterfell you idiot.

  • @GanzBestimmt

    @GanzBestimmt

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@arvinvillaluz5097 Totally agree. But it would be even worse to have your army confined right in front of the castle walls. The other option would have been to flee south. But to stand your ground and not using your most valuable asset is kinda suicidal.

  • @Nemesis_T_Type
    @Nemesis_T_Type3 жыл бұрын

    Winterfell in the TV show was barely a castle. Now this model looks like it is prepared to fight against the White Walkers.

  • @doesnotexist305

    @doesnotexist305

    2 жыл бұрын

    Which is what it was designed for

  • @11Berry113

    @11Berry113

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well yes and no, they where designed against dragons. That's why they the castle where so massive in the book. In the series the castles are a joke like Shad says.

  • @aquila4460

    @aquila4460

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@11Berry113 They wheren't designed against dragons. Thats why 3 dragon riders managed to unite westeros. Herranhal was completly invincible to any normal army, and it was gone within hour upon a dragon assault.

  • @roddo1955

    @roddo1955

    2 жыл бұрын

    TV-Winterfell, was fine. It has the scale and look of what you might expect from a medieval castle on earth. More relatable to the average viewers. Had they made Winterfell to scale; TV-audiences would be like:"suuuuuuure"....I like to think that the show and the books are two separate things and visions.

  • @Turgon86

    @Turgon86

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@11Berry113 They weren't. Winterfell was built by Bradon the builder, who existed waaaay back before the Targaryens came to Westeros.

  • @wibbly8011
    @wibbly80112 жыл бұрын

    Fortunately even though Winterfell still needs a obscene amount of firewood, the internal heating from the hot springs does lessen the demand somewhat. This is incredible! Thank you! Poor Stannis, he has to try and besieged this monster. Though it does look decent for fighting the battle for the dawn!

  • @brahimdiop5506

    @brahimdiop5506

    Жыл бұрын

    Poor Winterfell you mean. Sure it's dealt with zombies and giants before but now it has to face the Sole Survivor of the War of Five Kings, the One True King, the Azor Ahai, Stannis "the Mannis" of the House of Baratheon.

  • @benharris7358

    @benharris7358

    Жыл бұрын

    also include that theres no way Winterfell is at full strength at the time we see it. Most rooms and areas are probably running under capacity or empty and so would not need heating at all.

  • @hsgame4088

    @hsgame4088

    Жыл бұрын

    @@brahimdiop5506 Winterfell was build to defend against stannis

  • @toastedbread9752
    @toastedbread9752 Жыл бұрын

    A part of the story that I find even more amazing now that I can visualize the scale of Winterfell, is that Theon and his Ironborn men climbed these walls to take the castle.

  • @tomaskovarik7966

    @tomaskovarik7966

    Жыл бұрын

    Ironborn were hardcore raiders

  • @tiffanywyatt5137

    @tiffanywyatt5137

    Жыл бұрын

    Martin has admitted he was bad with scales but it being massive does explain. How it was hard to find bran and rickon when they were escaping

  • @antiochus87

    @antiochus87

    10 ай бұрын

    How many men did Theon have with him again? Surely it would have been impossible to really "take Winterfell", let alone hold onto it for even a tiny amount of time (I.e. garrison it), and that's ignoring the strategic problems. How many troops would he need to control all that area? Doesn't matter if he took the key keep, the sheer size would make it like trying to hold a city with a tiny force. He wouldn't have enough men to control more than a tiny percentage of it.

  • @aqueousvessel8

    @aqueousvessel8

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@antiochus87 most of Winterfells garrison left with Robb for the war, a very small amount of men were left behind and most of those left to go free Torhens Square from the ironborn by Brans order. Which left an already very undermaned castle essentially empty. Even then the only reason the Iron born got into the castle was because Theon knew a bunch of stuff about the castle that allowed them to sneak in.

  • @antiochus87

    @antiochus87

    7 ай бұрын

    @@aqueousvessel8 Thanks for replying. Interesting. It seems to me that Winterfell is impractically big and extremely difficult to defend, and the Starks couldn't really hold they fortress for the same reason Theon couldn't, but with the only advantage being for them it was in friendly territory. It seems too big for a reasonable garrison, and the North too empty, bleak and underpopulated to support the kind of garrison to cover all its defenses effectively, so a well provisioned enemy would wear them down in a siege.

  • @felassanabelas3735
    @felassanabelas37353 жыл бұрын

    Theon's men scaling the walls, swimming the moat and then scaling the inner wall all with simple climbing spikes is suddenly so much more impressive...

  • @motorcitymangababe

    @motorcitymangababe

    3 жыл бұрын

    The tactical genius that theon wasted for daddys favor is truly tragic.

  • @LA-MJ

    @LA-MJ

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ludicrous rather. Many of the scenes in the book are ruined after seeing this. GRRM can't math. It is known.

  • @dv9239

    @dv9239

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@LA-MJ It is known

  • @jonathandevers6609

    @jonathandevers6609

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dv9239 It is known

  • @bethcail976

    @bethcail976

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@LA-MJ It always confused me, even in the books, that the Greyjoys had to have lost thousands of men at Fair Isle and thousands more defending the Iron Islands during the Rebellion just a decade ago and suddenly are able to invade the North with thousands more during the War of Five Kings and the North was just unable to repel them on their own? The Manderlys have the most land, most gold, a thriving port and a whole fucking city and can only raise 2000 men? like that is straight up bullshit.

  • @paualamar
    @paualamar4 жыл бұрын

    Should we twit this to George R.R. Martin? If he liked a drawing of the throne he’s gonna be amazed by your model.

  • @DinnerForkTongue

    @DinnerForkTongue

    4 жыл бұрын

    Please do!

  • @MuhammadKharismawan

    @MuhammadKharismawan

    4 жыл бұрын

    Everyone need to do it so he'd actually watch it. I already did mine.

  • @mrprimor227

    @mrprimor227

    4 жыл бұрын

    Supposedly he doesn't listen to fan theories and I'm not sure if it would leak into this.

  • @mrlegkick91

    @mrlegkick91

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@mrprimor227 hopefully he'd appreciate the sheer effort and detail that went into this. It's not like shad is making up a load of bs fan theory stuff...

  • @kuhljager2429

    @kuhljager2429

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@mrprimor227 this isn't a fan theory. Fan theories are about who live, who dies, and things like that. This is taking the books, and creating a model based off of what the author already created. Also Shad, wonderful job, both by you and your crew.

  • @jeanneanberglund531
    @jeanneanberglund531 Жыл бұрын

    So basically the show's version of Winterfell was a giant's outhouse.

  • @abominable.7800

    @abominable.7800

    Жыл бұрын

    the show version of Winterfell looks pretty dull not gonna lie

  • @kingofthesands

    @kingofthesands

    Жыл бұрын

    @@abominable.7800 The show version is still quite impressive. Keep in mind they created the castle back in 2009 when filming and production began.

  • @aramaxes4802
    @aramaxes48022 жыл бұрын

    You forgot one detail. The granaries would need to be way bigger compared to conventional granaries since winter is coming and it's going to last for for quite a while.

  • @Greytuneify
    @Greytuneify4 жыл бұрын

    This is what true passion looks like. You go, castle guy. You go.

  • @verruso7774

    @verruso7774

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yas

  • @hamishdrake6166
    @hamishdrake61664 жыл бұрын

    If this is the true Winterfell, it makes putting your army outside the walls even more ridiculous.

  • @tz6070

    @tz6070

    4 жыл бұрын

    I am sure the army of dead would run out of zombies, before they could climb all these huge walls😂

  • @janehaylay1152

    @janehaylay1152

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes, because entire army would fit there. Even with dragons, comfortably.

  • @johnnyskinwalker4095

    @johnnyskinwalker4095

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@tz6070 "yea umm screw you Night King, I'm going home"

  • @markpock1139

    @markpock1139

    4 жыл бұрын

    That's how the Seven Kingdoms stayed stable for thousands of years before Aegon's Conquest With behemoths like Winterfell, Casterly Rock, Highgarden, Storm's End, and more - even some of the minor castles like Castamere and the Dreadfort are formidable opponents.

  • @Angelo-nd4lg

    @Angelo-nd4lg

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@markpock1139 bra casterly rock is giving me nightmares and harrenhall

  • @TroubledTrooper
    @TroubledTrooper Жыл бұрын

    Ya gotta remember for hundreds of years this was the capital seat of a massive Kingdom.

  • @n1ppe

    @n1ppe

    Жыл бұрын

    Actually it was thousands of years. It was build after The long night by Bran The Builder 8 000 years before A Game Of Thrones.

  • @purplepotato2612
    @purplepotato26122 жыл бұрын

    The castle becomes even more impressive when you add in the facts that the keep was built on a spot where there is a natural abundance of warm water which is spread across the keep keeping it warm. Also the winters are multiple years long.

  • @rodneycoopwood1648
    @rodneycoopwood16484 жыл бұрын

    I see why Catelyn didn't want Bran climbing

  • @DanDauzacker

    @DanDauzacker

    4 жыл бұрын

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHHAHAH

  • @DavidbarZeus1

    @DavidbarZeus1

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think it's a MIRACLE that Bran survived the fall!

  • @visionist7

    @visionist7

    4 жыл бұрын

    Bran should have been a splatted tomato

  • @safwanshuhaib9968

    @safwanshuhaib9968

    3 жыл бұрын

    Bran the broken.... More like bran the boy who lived 😂

  • @kerzariz8717

    @kerzariz8717

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DavidbarZeus1 Probably. But there's snow in the ground, so it must've softened the fall.

  • @anonynony4410
    @anonynony44103 жыл бұрын

    And Brand was climbing all this. Absolute mad lad.

  • @beingrkm

    @beingrkm

    3 жыл бұрын

    *bran

  • @Incogn170

    @Incogn170

    3 жыл бұрын

    Explains why Catelyn were so concerned lmao

  • @noahmay7708

    @noahmay7708

    3 жыл бұрын

    Imagine falling 30 meters and only breaking your legs.

  • @AaronChristopher869

    @AaronChristopher869

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@noahmay7708 he also broke his spine, but still he is very lucky to be alive

  • @astafy39

    @astafy39

    3 жыл бұрын

    He trained for assassin's creed, but then 3eyes raven happened

  • @xvor_tex8577
    @xvor_tex85778 ай бұрын

    It makes theon's taking of winterfell that much impresive, visualizing how it looked like.

  • @risetotheheavens
    @risetotheheavens2 жыл бұрын

    Winterfell was heated by pumping the hot springs throughout the castle walls. a crucial element that was missed -- but outstanding job nonetheless.

  • @chiquiloso
    @chiquiloso4 жыл бұрын

    You do realize that we now need a model for all the other castles, right? :D Amazing work man, congratulations!

  • @twelve11

    @twelve11

    4 жыл бұрын

    Highgarden!

  • @alontsang7377

    @alontsang7377

    4 жыл бұрын

    Casterly rock! Oh and harrenhall!

  • @daviguedes8949

    @daviguedes8949

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sunspear!

  • @JG-my9mj

    @JG-my9mj

    4 жыл бұрын

    Dragonstone!

  • @hiddendagger7291

    @hiddendagger7291

    4 жыл бұрын

    storm's end

  • @eriks1765
    @eriks17654 жыл бұрын

    Shad watched GoT and went full Crocodile Dundee. "That's not a castle. THIS is a castle"

  • @stanleylee5358

    @stanleylee5358

    4 жыл бұрын

    'straya!

  • @marcelboone5959
    @marcelboone59592 жыл бұрын

    Your passion for fantasy and history is psychotic, and I LOVE IT

  • @abominable.7800
    @abominable.7800 Жыл бұрын

    “Ned Stark always said 500 men could hold Winterfell again 10,000.”

  • @edwardbrown3721

    @edwardbrown3721

    10 ай бұрын

    Yeah they'd just need to man the gate, no one's getting through those walls anywhere

  • @antiochus87

    @antiochus87

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@@edwardbrown3721Who said though? I think a far smaller force could take the city. That's a lot of wall for these 500 men to cover, and not so many choke points.

  • @theshadowling1

    @theshadowling1

    9 ай бұрын

    @@antiochus87 You want to try to climb an 80ft wall? You can't really build a ladder that tall, and if there's a layer of ice/sleet, no way. The gatehouse is the only real way in

  • @Diego-sb1bw

    @Diego-sb1bw

    2 ай бұрын

    Theon climbed the wall​@@theshadowling1

  • @idontspeakjapanese6289

    @idontspeakjapanese6289

    Ай бұрын

    @@Diego-sb1bw Because he knew his way around it and had a lot of timing analyzing it.

  • @astrayadventurer4450
    @astrayadventurer44504 жыл бұрын

    The night king would of looked at that an been like. "Ah hell they updated. Nah let's go around they'll freeze out. We're going around guys."

  • @FlyingFox86

    @FlyingFox86

    4 жыл бұрын

    3 days later: "We made it guys, we made it around the castle!"

  • @jaketheberge1970

    @jaketheberge1970

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@FlyingFox86 (Dragons fly overhead) Night King: (Sniff) Somethings burning.

  • @astrayadventurer4450

    @astrayadventurer4450

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@FlyingFox86 Lmao! Nice.

  • @matthewmuir8884

    @matthewmuir8884

    4 жыл бұрын

    That's how I would've written season 8, episode 3. The Night King smells a trap and goes around; leaving a section of his army behind to distract the army of the living and kill as much of it as possible while the Night King heads south and spreads both winter and the long night (i.e. the clouds blot out the sun) across Westeros.

  • @drmatthewgrayqld

    @drmatthewgrayqld

    3 жыл бұрын

    The night king only appears in the TV show, not the books. Don't know if he'll be written into future books. The books are much more complex and nuanced, and the night king might not be needed at all to make the story work.

  • @nickagalidis1845
    @nickagalidis18454 жыл бұрын

    Imagine an army of White Walkers trying to take this version of Winterfell. A man can dream

  • @peterpaulbuttigieg7908

    @peterpaulbuttigieg7908

    4 жыл бұрын

    With that moat, all that they needed to worry about would be the dragon!

  • @mrlegkick91

    @mrlegkick91

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lol they'd have no chance..

  • @Manaphypalka

    @Manaphypalka

    4 жыл бұрын

    They could pile the wights in one spot and climb over, fill the moat with more

  • @peterpaulbuttigieg7908

    @peterpaulbuttigieg7908

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Manaphypalka i havent calculated but id bet that 100,000 bodies would not be enough and even if it is, i dont think there will be enough wights left to climb it and still be a considerable threat

  • @tyrant-den884

    @tyrant-den884

    4 жыл бұрын

    It was taken by a small company of Vikings. They used subterfuge, but still.

  • @Perykvaal
    @Perykvaal2 жыл бұрын

    The fact that you're giving those files out for free is truly impressive, considering the amount of hours you spent. I salute you, sir!

  • @Shadowmask8
    @Shadowmask82 жыл бұрын

    I have to say I really didn't think your design would be particularly aesthetically pleasing but what you've done here is spectacularly beautiful. The white accents against the grey granite is a really nice touch. You should be proud.

  • @RainMakeR_Workshop
    @RainMakeR_Workshop4 жыл бұрын

    Wonder what George R. R. Martin would think of this?

  • @user-iy9uq4rv6w

    @user-iy9uq4rv6w

    4 жыл бұрын

    Would be probably mind-blown

  • @sorsocksfake

    @sorsocksfake

    4 жыл бұрын

    "Look, I just wrote down some things that kinda made sense. I hadn't expected anyone to actually try and recreate it!"

  • @Lancor84

    @Lancor84

    4 жыл бұрын

    "I maybe have overdone it."

  • @Divinemakyr

    @Divinemakyr

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Lancor84 I remember some people showed George a 700-foot deep canyon or something and he said he made the Wall to tall. He was thinking about 200 feet, it's just hard to think about in your head.

  • @squidsinspace75

    @squidsinspace75

    4 жыл бұрын

    He probably will love it. He loves his Fans creativity. Especially when they took his descriptions and expand it into something even more real and correct his mistakes or fill the gaps which he left. Shad definitely should send that to him.

  • @Crendermin
    @Crendermin4 жыл бұрын

    This makes it much more believable when they say that Winterfell is a stronghold

  • @warrenstearns9068
    @warrenstearns90682 жыл бұрын

    Winterfell was warmed largely by hot springs, in the book they said that the hot springs heated the whole city castle, kat said the place was almost unbeatably hot

  • @albdamned577
    @albdamned5779 ай бұрын

    One thing that could be implied through the text, any towers on the walls/the old keep should be square. The curved towers were described as being a later invention in the books, with the first men using most square towers, largely without mortar. Moat callin and one of the castle Jaime visits on the river lands was also like it. Winterfell is reported to be larger and older.

  • @QRAPGaming
    @QRAPGaming4 жыл бұрын

    Nightking: Yeah we will.... save this one for later. Let's go somewhere else instead

  • @TheMorfra

    @TheMorfra

    4 жыл бұрын

    QRAPGaming who is Nightking?

  • @luizfelipevbf5567

    @luizfelipevbf5567

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@TheMorfra the leader of the Others in the show.

  • @Lakhshamana

    @Lakhshamana

    4 жыл бұрын

    On the flip side, he has a dragon (in the show) and a metric asston of foot soldiers

  • @ulrichkalber9039

    @ulrichkalber9039

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Lakhshamana and he is given a gift of valyrian steel, wich nullifies all that.

  • @SeanKecskes

    @SeanKecskes

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nightking: Wait, they're all going outside the walls to meet us? Awesome, let's do this.

  • @EastSidePaul
    @EastSidePaul3 жыл бұрын

    The first time I saw Winterfell, it looked like something that had been here for thousands of years, and would be here for thousands of years after I was dead. I saw it, and I thought, "Of course Ned Stark crushed our rebellion and killed my brothers. We never stood a chance against a man who lives here." - Theon Greyjoy

  • @blackfalcon4708

    @blackfalcon4708

    3 жыл бұрын

    From which book is that quote?

  • @EastSidePaul

    @EastSidePaul

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@blackfalcon4708 Hey, it is from the TV show; Season 2 Episode 10 - Valar Morghulis.

  • @Mandrak789

    @Mandrak789

    3 жыл бұрын

    Too bad Winterfell in TV series didn't really looked like it. More like some poor God forbidden military outpost.

  • @rafaelmontoya1454

    @rafaelmontoya1454

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Mandrak789 It did look like a castle but not the castle of the warden of the north. It looked like a castle for a different noble family.

  • @Mandrak789

    @Mandrak789

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rafaelmontoya1454 Yeah, Starks aren't rich as Lannisters and Tyrells, and North is not populated as South, but I would expect that one of the most powerful families in Westeros had bigger home.

  • @Elegantwoes
    @Elegantwoes2 жыл бұрын

    Imagine managing the finances and upkeep of such a huge castle. Poor Catelyn.

  • @RebeccaStamm
    @RebeccaStamm Жыл бұрын

    This is stunning. Thanks for the taking the time to do it.

  • @TwinIonEngines
    @TwinIonEngines4 жыл бұрын

    Stone mason: So how many towers do you want? The Starks: *YES*

  • @AzaleaJane

    @AzaleaJane

    4 жыл бұрын

    D&D: here's our winterfell design *Eddard Stark has left the chat*

  • @MM-xm5vx

    @MM-xm5vx

    4 жыл бұрын

    The starks are older than all the other paramount houses the only houses as old as them are just vassals. They lived there for thousands of years.

  • @JaayCeez

    @JaayCeez

    4 жыл бұрын

    I mean.... It was built by the same guy who built the Great Wall if the North lol. What do you think Bran The Builder would do in his own home? With a name like "The Builder"? hehe Plus it was back in the times where Giants and magic was more known and more available :)

  • @TwinIonEngines

    @TwinIonEngines

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@JaayCeez " Hey Bran so why do they call you the Builder anyway? " * Bran, putting the final touches on the 478th tower on Winterfell * " I dunno man, people are weird ya know " * Giant slotting a roof on a citadel like a Lego * " Eyyy Jerry careful will ya! "

  • @JaayCeez

    @JaayCeez

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@TwinIonEngines haha, yup, seems about right.

  • @hailexiao2770
    @hailexiao27704 жыл бұрын

    Bran's gonna have one hell of a time surviving a fall from *that* broken tower!

  • @kungfujesus1874

    @kungfujesus1874

    4 жыл бұрын

    He fell from the old keep, not the tower in the books but yes, show bran is very dead

  • @Tensen01

    @Tensen01

    4 жыл бұрын

    people have survived falling out of planes without any major injuries... I mean unlikely he'd survive, but not unheard of.

  • @mrobligatory.5234

    @mrobligatory.5234

    4 жыл бұрын

    KungFuJesus 1 have you seen the old keep in the video he dead it’s more then a 100 foot drop, also like your user name, am a Christian

  • @theapexsurvivor9538

    @theapexsurvivor9538

    3 жыл бұрын

    Probably landed in some snow or something.

  • @schackmountain

    @schackmountain

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Tensen01 they haven't.

  • @brianlunsford1174
    @brianlunsford11742 жыл бұрын

    Man, you put a ton of work into this and it's freaking awesome! Love your channel and major respect.

  • @Pfadi73
    @Pfadi732 жыл бұрын

    WHAT-A-GREAT-WORK ! Watched it again. Every single time since the upload I am impressed. Such a great work, improved my P&P rounds. Thank you so much for givin' us so much proper information to set our gameplay in every setting (at table or larp) next level.

  • @elessal
    @elessal4 жыл бұрын

    developers like cd project red should hire you, at least as a consultant, for adaptations of medieval/fantacy novels.

  • @elephantofdoom
    @elephantofdoom4 жыл бұрын

    The best part is knowing Martin, his actual mental image of Winterfell is probably half the size of this and he just sucked at scale.

  • @konradvonschnitzeldorf6506

    @konradvonschnitzeldorf6506

    4 жыл бұрын

    probably

  • @Nesseight

    @Nesseight

    4 жыл бұрын

    Winterfell was designed by Bran the Builder. The same guy who very possibly made the Wall. He didn't believe in "small" Either that or GRRM just sucks at scale.

  • @elephantofdoom

    @elephantofdoom

    4 жыл бұрын

    Martin has said that he didn't mean for the wall to be as big as he described it. They took him to a quarry that was 700 feet tall for some scouting, and he realized that 700 feet tall in his head was more like 200 feet tall in real life.

  • @Divinemakyr

    @Divinemakyr

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@elephantofdoom lmao

  • @povilzem

    @povilzem

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@elephantofdoom That probably only means that Martin has tiny feet.

  • @Synthwave89
    @Synthwave892 жыл бұрын

    You absolutely killed it Shad. This is one of the most breathtaking examples of a castle ive ever seen, and a faithful representation yo the books (unlike the live action, unsurprisingly).

  • @michaeljiang5529
    @michaeljiang55292 жыл бұрын

    This design is truly shocking...... it shows how epic the castle is. And it also shows how it is impossible to be taken by force. I suppose this also indicates that Jon's force and Stannis's force can’t possibly take it by their armies. It is up to the vast northern's men to help Jon. It is a monstrosity... I can only imagine a long siege or dragons to defeat it. Couldn’t even imagine the white walkers overtaking it (well that’s up for debate but this castle is simply so majestic). Terrific work!

  • @DKline9206
    @DKline92063 жыл бұрын

    The scale of this castle only makes sense with the world building of Game of Thrones. This castle wasn't meant to house one great family and their servants. Nor was it built to withstand a siege of another nation. This castle was meant to house and entire people and withstand the siege of the White Walkers.

  • @x--.

    @x--.

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's such a key component, isn't it? Assuming no magical influence, a people would only expend the amount of energy, time, sweat and resources to build just the inner wall if they had fear of a great, great enemy. A sanctuary to withstand a force that couldn't be confronted in open warfare but had to be outlasted.

  • @boythee4193

    @boythee4193

    3 жыл бұрын

    yes, to defend all of the seven kingdoms from the zombie horde

  • @arawn1061

    @arawn1061

    3 жыл бұрын

    That and in the books Winterfell was built over thousands of years and expanded, renovated and rebuilt. Not to mention the HUGE amount of resources the north has at its command

  • @luke8801

    @luke8801

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thats why it was built where it was, where they defeated them for the first time, magic in the crypts, iron longswords to protect against the cold, the Crown of the Kings of Winter. It's all in the books, but the show threw it all away.

  • @kalysbourque2857

    @kalysbourque2857

    3 жыл бұрын

    Of course, the idea to make a powerful stronghold to be against a mighty foe and they expected it to happen again since they live and breathe in the north, the Great Wall of the north is another representation of how large the walls of Winterfell is suppose to be as a go-to holdout. Of course with some logical reasoning of its past of why it was built for, how it should defend and what they are up against because they did not have a dragon at first to scale around the defending force's walls and did not expect to bust down the Great Wall until Dreanery's came about to play out in the movie, but Winterfell was a logical place for the dead to go to instead of King's Landing which is kind of odd to place. Although Winterfell should have fallen to the dead and the rest of the houses before king's landing. I know my grammar is kind of shit because i have a difficult language learning disability. :)

  • @droach5241
    @droach52414 жыл бұрын

    I officially want to see Kings Landing, Casterly Rock, Dragonstone, and The Eyrie

  • @derdingsreturnsnochmal5177

    @derdingsreturnsnochmal5177

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think they pretty much nailed King's Landing.

  • @visionist7

    @visionist7

    4 жыл бұрын

    Highgarden pleez!

  • @TiagoJRToledo

    @TiagoJRToledo

    4 жыл бұрын

    HARRENHAL

  • @redblueproductions9739

    @redblueproductions9739

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@derdingsreturnsnochmal5177 Yes, exeot the red keep is not as tall in the books as it is in the show.

  • @vedantpatel8266

    @vedantpatel8266

    4 жыл бұрын

    The Eyrie is so insane in the books lmao

  • @theun4giv3n
    @theun4giv3n Жыл бұрын

    The battle at Winterfell would have been so much more epic at your version of the castle.

  • @scottbruckner4653
    @scottbruckner4653 Жыл бұрын

    The interesting thing about winterfell as a whole is that it's meant from the ground up, to be a capital city for the kingdom of the starks, so while it is bigger than many many conventional castles, I feel it's fitting for being so damn big.

  • @NightingaleAlt
    @NightingaleAlt4 жыл бұрын

    Can we just sit back and applaud how Theon was able to take Winterfell with a handful of Greyjoys?

  • @nxs12369

    @nxs12369

    4 жыл бұрын

    Not much gruads?

  • @ufiCz

    @ufiCz

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@nxs12369 Acording to scale ..... even if every man and woman in there, just pick up rock and throw it to them, theon and his gang would die in agony :D

  • @spartans-4196

    @spartans-4196

    4 жыл бұрын

    I mean...He did it through treachery and deceit...Not a proper invasion. So...That's less impressive.

  • @Eastcyning

    @Eastcyning

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@spartans-4196 Honour doesn't really get you places. Game of Thrones, of all things, communicates that pretty well.

  • @Lord_Of_Night

    @Lord_Of_Night

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Eastcyning Still less impressive than a siege. Less effort required in trickery. But you're right. Trickery was more effective.

  • @McGrewer
    @McGrewer4 жыл бұрын

    So Winterfell is a castle, in a castle, inside of a castle with a couple of castles around it and a park in it. This is capitol city levels of layers. This is where emperors want to live. Which I guess makes sense.

  • @Riku-zv5dk

    @Riku-zv5dk

    4 жыл бұрын

    I mean back when the North was its own Kingdom it was the castle of Kings. Makes you wonder what Highgarden and Casterly Rock are really like

  • @davidwilson6577

    @davidwilson6577

    4 жыл бұрын

    Don't forget the city outside the castle that can house all the folk from the surrounding lands during winter. Highgarden we don't know, but Casterly Rock I always envisioned as something much more mundane (in terms of size by Westerosi standards). I'm sure it would be practically gilded, but they don't need to deal with internal heating and housing for the surrounding lands during winter, plus they're in a much more naturally defensible position. Anything Bran the Builder made is going to be more impressive structurally, excepting anything made by a Valyrian.

  • @corruptangel6793

    @corruptangel6793

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Riku-zv5dk highgarden is like a much bigger Menas tirith. Just with only 2 tiers to it's cake like design. And Casterly Rock is literally a hollowed out mountain on the ocean side.

  • @corruptangel6793

    @corruptangel6793

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@davidwilson6577 if you google those places then some images from the book "The World of Ice and Fire" where there are pictures of all of these locations will appear. They're literally the first pictures you see

  • @Lakhshamana

    @Lakhshamana

    4 жыл бұрын

    To be fair, The North is like the size of Canada and Continental USA combined

  • @CT-fi6fy
    @CT-fi6fy Жыл бұрын

    If we ever visit Winterfell in House of the Dragon I really hope they redesign it very similar to this and the books. With the budget for the show I definitely think it’s possible.

  • @richardvillalobos4035

    @richardvillalobos4035

    Жыл бұрын

    Winterfell is confirmed to appear in season 2 so I hope for a redesign just like this one!

  • @spicymeatball7414

    @spicymeatball7414

    7 ай бұрын

    I love Shad’s redesign but they’re probably going to keep the same design as GOT for continuity purposes.

  • @johans634
    @johans634 Жыл бұрын

    Many Thanks for your detailed model and description. It is amazing. Truly an epic piece of work! :)

  • @timothynguyen1989
    @timothynguyen19894 жыл бұрын

    Shad: *recreates Winterfell* Whitewalkers: Ight imma head out

  • @tylergulbas7632

    @tylergulbas7632

    4 жыл бұрын

    Timothy bro imagine if Dany helped the rebuild the castle to look like this just in time for when the white walkers come and this is what the fight was in...

  • @hiddendagger7291
    @hiddendagger72914 жыл бұрын

    don't forget crypts are even bigger than winterfel itself

  • @amyrat151

    @amyrat151

    4 жыл бұрын

    Well, do they have to fit a couple thousand years worth of dead people.

  • @FreinareUnimentra

    @FreinareUnimentra

    3 жыл бұрын

    WHAT?!!😱

  • @ginge641

    @ginge641

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@amyrat151 From a single family, so maybe not as big as it could be.

  • @Gitami

    @Gitami

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ginge641 Do extended family qualify for burial? For a house that warns against the Others beyond the wall, they appear intent on having a undead army lying under their feet.

  • @ginge641

    @ginge641

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Gitami I imagine that's something George would want to tackle with a good reason. The show though......oof.

  • @lilykatmoon4508
    @lilykatmoon4508 Жыл бұрын

    Wow! I’ve always identified with House Stark out of all the houses in GoT, and this is such a treat. It’s a true castle for the King in the North! This is amazing! Thanks so much for creating this resource and sharing g it for free! ❤

  • @krose6451
    @krose6451 Жыл бұрын

    I just... wow. This is the kind of thing I love to see. It was truely a treat. Thank you to all involved.

  • @CP-hn1zy
    @CP-hn1zy4 жыл бұрын

    Describing the Lannister twin’s incestuous, adulterous relationship “doing something rather inappropriate” 😂

  • @ElliWoelfin

    @ElliWoelfin

    4 жыл бұрын

    He is Mormon, after all.

  • @timothymonk1356

    @timothymonk1356

    4 жыл бұрын

    This content is made with kids in mind, so yes, he's right to say it like that.

  • @AJZulu

    @AJZulu

    4 жыл бұрын

    Words hurt KZread monetization sensibilities

  • @charlottewalnut3118

    @charlottewalnut3118

    4 жыл бұрын

    VSKKG really

  • @armorfrogentertainment

    @armorfrogentertainment

    4 жыл бұрын

    He's not wrong

  • @MatWol41
    @MatWol414 жыл бұрын

    So, you see Shad. With such an epic defensive capability, the only logical conclusion fighting the dead is placing all the infantries, calvery and artillery outside of this humongous epic defensive capability, Duh.

  • @martinkirbits4752

    @martinkirbits4752

    4 жыл бұрын

    They didnt want to appear as filfty casuals

  • @Ottocide

    @Ottocide

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lololololol

  • @sirewokthefirstidonthaveal2902

    @sirewokthefirstidonthaveal2902

    4 жыл бұрын

    i agree, as an ewok who's genius is only rivled by the gods themselves... this is a valid statement

  • @Harshhaze

    @Harshhaze

    4 жыл бұрын

    You should also put the women and children near the dead, and not evacuate them

  • @fyrnenskulman6071

    @fyrnenskulman6071

    4 жыл бұрын

    I mean otherwise there would be the risk of your army getting lost within the castle😅

  • @miulou4you
    @miulou4you Жыл бұрын

    Woooow you outdid yourself! Your level of dedication is unmatched! I wish I could have you in my friendgroup and watch these things come along, nerd-talk every day and get lost in this world. So happy I found your channels

  • @Fozzybear982010
    @Fozzybear9820102 жыл бұрын

    I know this is years late, but I’m here. You made this more epic than anyone could imagine. George R.R. Martin should have a look at this. And maybe have you work with him on other castles in the future. And anyone wanting to create Medieval video games should be beating on your door. Again, this is truly amazing!

  • @mikaranta5840
    @mikaranta58404 жыл бұрын

    It was the Age of Heroes when Winterfell was built by legendary Shad the Builder

  • @revolverDOOMGUY
    @revolverDOOMGUY4 жыл бұрын

    people who make minecraft castles "write that down, write that down"

  • @lowkeyarki7091

    @lowkeyarki7091

    4 жыл бұрын

    I don't think the build limit would let us build towers that tall. 256 blocks i think.

  • @kaiob921

    @kaiob921

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@lowkeyarki7091 I mean the inner wall, being 30 meters, is already 30 blocks. So yeah, the great keep and all of the bigger buildins woldn't be possible to build;

  • @sartanko

    @sartanko

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@kaiob921 Doesn't need to be exactly the same proportions, just general design and layout would be enough for most minecrafters I think.

  • @lowkeyarki7091

    @lowkeyarki7091

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@kaiob921 yeah, I was actually looking for this post to edit my comment. I tried it out on my minecraft world and based on the video the tallest tower should only be 100 blocks tall at most. So yeah, people should really try and do it.

  • @slaaneshthedarkprince2000

    @slaaneshthedarkprince2000

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think they already made winterfell

  • @the_rzh
    @the_rzh Жыл бұрын

    Remember, winter can last years. Inhabitants can be snow bound for months. Even disregarding sieges, the food stores would have to be massive. The greenhouses are meant to be productive in full winter utilizing the hot springs for warmth.

  • @Wafflelord-Gaming
    @Wafflelord-Gaming2 жыл бұрын

    I came here initially for some background audio, but after 4 minutes I was generally invested in the video. This was put together really well and I loved every minute talking about the detailing of the castle

  • @elverbabybabysen2173
    @elverbabybabysen21734 жыл бұрын

    6:50 Shad: I’m not gonna cut any corners *shows us two circles* Me: but Shad, there are no corners in that model.

  • @michellevirinam2561

    @michellevirinam2561

    4 жыл бұрын

    That‘s why he can‘t cut them

  • @elverbabybabysen2173

    @elverbabybabysen2173

    4 жыл бұрын

    Michelle Virinam indeed

  • @TaliesinKnol
    @TaliesinKnol4 жыл бұрын

    Imagine having to push Bran's wheelchair around this.

  • @rycolligan

    @rycolligan

    4 жыл бұрын

    ...Hodor...

  • @nberry02
    @nberry02 Жыл бұрын

    Incredible. Thank you so much for your passion and effort. Your work illustrates how dedicated you are.

  • @bencressman6110
    @bencressman6110 Жыл бұрын

    This is just amazing! I remember reading the books and looking for images online of what the castles looked like, because their descriptions were so epic. There was never anything quite right and the screenshots of the show were just kind of like… ew. This perfectly captures the incredible size and city-like nature of GoT castles, and looks dope. But the real magic was when you started zooming around in the spaces close up. It made me want to be there, it made me feel like I was in the North, it’s crazy that you were able to bring so much life and reality into a sketchup model. Well the work Shad, I’m so pleased to get to watch this video. 👏 👏 👏

  • @InnuendoXP
    @InnuendoXP4 жыл бұрын

    Only 7 minutes in but man, having the Godswood in the middle actually makes that bit in the TV series "let's all retreat to the Godswood" actually make a slight amount of sense, as opposed to running back to the segmented off minimally-fortified and bottlenecked section of open garden in the TV show.

  • @hello1236096

    @hello1236096

    4 жыл бұрын

    rayamoroso126 near the end of the battle of winter fell

  • @josejuangomez83

    @josejuangomez83

    4 жыл бұрын

    The battle of winterfell was a disgrace. Just as the whole of 8th season.

  • @stanleyc2978

    @stanleyc2978

    4 жыл бұрын

    @rayamoroso126 They were in the process of retreating to it. Arya easily killed the ancient super strong ice zombie warrior in like 5 seconds. Well before anyone else retreated to it. Theon and Brand were already there before the battle began. The idiotic "plan" was to use Bran as bait but then that seemed nearly completely forgotten.

  • @blitzkrieg2928
    @blitzkrieg29284 жыл бұрын

    Who would win : this monstrosity vs A few ironborn bois

  • @kenobi6257

    @kenobi6257

    4 жыл бұрын

    This monstrosity with 10 men as garrison*

  • @blitzkrieg2928

    @blitzkrieg2928

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@kenobi6257 that's what he(Bran) gets for not putting Ser 20 Goodmen on a double duty shift.

  • @lordodysseus

    @lordodysseus

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@blitzkrieg2928 I see your a fan of Preston. Wonderful to be in such fine company.

  • @rd0676

    @rd0676

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ford planned it all

  • @visionist7

    @visionist7

    4 жыл бұрын

    Kraken. Hmmm. Strong. So long as they're in the sea! Take them out of the water... no bones! They collapse under their proud weight into a heap of _nothing..._

  • @0ldrasput1n
    @0ldrasput1n Жыл бұрын

    Time to reread the books and visualize this model everytime winterfell is mentioned.

  • @Klosterman40
    @Klosterman402 жыл бұрын

    You did an amazing job. It looks incredible. Love it!

  • @futurecaredesign
    @futurecaredesign4 жыл бұрын

    35:40 I actually remember reading that Winterfell was heated by the water of the hot springs. It was engineered in such a way that the hot water flowed through the walls of the buildings, heating them up.

  • @romansongen6284

    @romansongen6284

    4 жыл бұрын

    but i think only in the main keep. However you would need massive amounts of firewood anyway :D

  • @wyattblaine7066

    @wyattblaine7066

    4 жыл бұрын

    thank you, was my only note as well

  • @legogonkdroid3792

    @legogonkdroid3792

    4 жыл бұрын

    I said that too and then i scrolled down and saw your comment

  • @thedarkfrost2351

    @thedarkfrost2351

    4 жыл бұрын

    Good old Brandon the builder

  • @97epicman

    @97epicman

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@romansongen6284 Nope. The hot water flows through all the inside walls of Winterfell. It's so warm that people flock there in the winter, because its the warmest castle in the North.

  • @Delta_3
    @Delta_34 жыл бұрын

    I've got to say as a draughtsman and civil/structural engineer I'm tremendously impressed with the model you have created. I admire the amount of time, effort and knowledge that has gone into making such a spectacular model! I take my hat off to you Shad 😊

  • @ElliWoelfin

    @ElliWoelfin

    4 жыл бұрын

    He has experience as an architect, definitely helps.

  • @Coops1985

    @Coops1985

    4 жыл бұрын

    he does? i wondered. i wish i was this good at sketchup.

  • @Delta_3

    @Delta_3

    4 жыл бұрын

    I hadn't realised, it would certainly explain Shad's ability and understanding. I've used Revit quite a bit and other 3D cad software but am nowhere near the level that Shad has 😲

  • @Miquelalalaa

    @Miquelalalaa

    4 жыл бұрын

    Did you have to do a civil engineering degree?

  • @Dracomancer273

    @Dracomancer273

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ElliWoelfin Even more shocking, he's an architect That Pays Attention To Physics!!! Most architects have a bad habit of "I want the 5 story glass box with no columns" and the Structural Engineers are going "But a light breeze or a cup of water poured on the roof will make it collapse! No! Bad Architect!"

  • @katesnow7143
    @katesnow7143 Жыл бұрын

    this is truly spectacular! what an awesome achievement! thank you so much for this. the show would've looked so much better if they adhered to this version. the best to you and yours always.

  • @Rj-us1ck
    @Rj-us1ck2 жыл бұрын

    Dear Shad, thank you for this amazing video and for the excellent model of Winterfell.) You did a great job.)

  • @borysvengerov3398
    @borysvengerov33983 жыл бұрын

    By the way, Martin himself acknowledged that he was pretty bad at putting a number to the structures he imagined. There's a story of him being surprised at the size of The Wall on one author's drawing. The author replied: "Well, that's what 700 feet look like"

  • @Sipu97

    @Sipu97

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah... That's a thought I had in my mind while watching this: "what if he just didn't understand the scale?"

  • @rennycepeda6576

    @rennycepeda6576

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Sipu97 even for architecture students it takes time and experience to really understand, i can imagine working with a castle wouldn't be easy

  • @Sipu97

    @Sipu97

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rennycepeda6576 Yup, I don't blame him. It's hard to estimate how tall something is.

  • @David-un4cs

    @David-un4cs

    3 жыл бұрын

    I like that though. Some of the art that gets released, like The World of Ice and Fire, is so grand and fantastical that it looks like it would fit in Dark Souls. The show going more toned down in a lot of ways was a downgrade in my opinion.

  • @borysvengerov3398

    @borysvengerov3398

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@David-un4cs fun fact: George says that so far artists were not liberal enough (sic!) when depicting Dragonstone - imagine how mad his vision of it is 😄

  • @uoilo
    @uoilo4 жыл бұрын

    Imagine they made an open world GoT game where the castles were on this scale, it would be glorious

  • @ejswimmergirl

    @ejswimmergirl

    4 жыл бұрын

    Even animated though, it would take a massive amount of data to process all of the main castles in this level of detail/these graphics

  • @unvergebeneid

    @unvergebeneid

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ejswimmergirl You were just looking at such a castle. Sure, a lot of the detail was lacking but then, there was also no LoD optimization. Have you seen games these days?

  • @ufiCz

    @ufiCz

    4 жыл бұрын

    Imagine it take 5 min to get out of that castles to do some f***** quest, 15 min without mount :D

  • @bigmannick2

    @bigmannick2

    4 жыл бұрын

    Erika Janorschke hey man idk what type of games you play or what type of dinosaur computer you have, but it shouldn’t be that difficult to load a castle this big in today’s games, do you see what’s out there now and what can run on a normal Xbox one or ps4? You sound stupid.

  • @Lord_Of_Night

    @Lord_Of_Night

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ejswimmergirl It wouldn't be that difficult for major developers. We already have open world games with maps equal to or, in some cases even bigger than Westeros.

  • @jimmyst44
    @jimmyst44 Жыл бұрын

    that was an amazing video! thank you for making it! and thanks a lot to for the assets as well!

  • @mishmash3927
    @mishmash3927 Жыл бұрын

    I thoroughly enjoyed this. Thanks for all the effort you put into making it!

  • @Kaocito1
    @Kaocito14 жыл бұрын

    Bran "the Builder" would be proud of this.

  • @justicedunham4088
    @justicedunham40884 жыл бұрын

    You better show this to George R. R. Martin.

  • @syntaxusdogmata3333

    @syntaxusdogmata3333

    4 жыл бұрын

    Wouldn't it be fascinating to hear his thoughts and see how well this matches his original vision?

  • @veejayroth

    @veejayroth

    4 жыл бұрын

    I wish someone made this happen. I also wish someone captured a video of Martin looking at the model and realising how freaking off are the measurements provided by him, compared to what he envisioned. xD

  • @Anakunus

    @Anakunus

    4 жыл бұрын

    I was just going to write the same thing.

  • @unvergebeneid

    @unvergebeneid

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@veejayroth Which measurements were off? Did I miss this part of the video?

  • @veejayroth

    @veejayroth

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@unvergebeneid Not of the video, of the books. Martin is known for not having a good sense of scale, so hi sometimes envisions something, say, 100ft high, but writes down it's 250ft. He's a good writer, obviously, however he's no engineer, nor architect, so he doesn't have the scales internalised.

  • @danOH112
    @danOH112 Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely incredible. I’m in awe of everything about this video.

  • @89stefanski
    @89stefanski Жыл бұрын

    This is awesome. I absolutely adore all your castle content. Fantastic model. Thanks for the many hours you must have sunk in there. 🙂

  • @mattes4929
    @mattes49294 жыл бұрын

    Winterfell is more akin to a city than a castle unlike Skyrim's "cities" that are more like fortified villages than anything else.

  • @Yora21

    @Yora21

    4 жыл бұрын

    When I think of enormous castles, I always think of the fortifications of Constantinople. Those walls enclose an area of of 3456 acres.

  • @tman57vt

    @tman57vt

    4 жыл бұрын

    You also have to keep in mind that in video games, cities are usually scaled down for the convenience of the player and to save processing power. Skyrim's cities are much bigger outside of the game

  • @paulkemp7035

    @paulkemp7035

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I never felt any sense of scale when I entered any of Skyrim's cities. Luckily, my imagination filled in the gaps. :)

  • @arnaudsurribas2963

    @arnaudsurribas2963

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Yora21 Winterfell would be a similiar to the fortified town of Carcassonne France, on a slightly bigger scale.

  • @95DarkFire

    @95DarkFire

    4 жыл бұрын

    It reminds me of the big Kremlins in Eastern Europe: A small city inside a fortress.

  • @jiggyjiggles8410
    @jiggyjiggles84104 жыл бұрын

    If this was how I imagined Harrenhal looking, and Harrenhal is apparently three times the size of winterfell, I now realize where the curse of Harren the black comes from

  • @tylermoore1769

    @tylermoore1769

    4 жыл бұрын

    Harrehal is absolutely MASSIVE by all accounts in the books. The Godswood at Harrenhal was 20 acres IIRC and it was inside the walls as well. Stormsend has walls like a mile thick (exg). The Dreadfort, Casterly Rock, and Highgarden were equally insane. Harrenhal takes the cake but is of course mostly ruin. Winterfell is supposedly one of the bigger and grander of the House seats. I wish they would have made them more epic for the show

  • @TheRythmandpoetry

    @TheRythmandpoetry

    4 жыл бұрын

    What the books doesn't tell is that he had a very very small dick, and had to compensate somehow

  • @barbiquearea

    @barbiquearea

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'd hate to imagine how the Stark ancestors must have squeezed their lands of resources and labor to build this place when Harren the Black essentially enslaved the entire Riverlands population to build his castle.

  • @davidvosspoor4694

    @davidvosspoor4694

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@barbiquearea Harren built it during his lifetime, while the Starks and Northeners have been at Winterfell during thousands of years literally.

  • @darthsilversith667

    @darthsilversith667

    4 жыл бұрын

    David Vosspoor Exactly. Winterfell was built slowly over thousands of years, not in one generation like Harrenhall.

  • @DayneandtheStars
    @DayneandtheStars Жыл бұрын

    I love this so muchhhh 😭😭😭 your work is amazing!