faceit, you're banned.

@matthewpaanotorres7309

22 күн бұрын

Genius pun. 😎👍

@ace2239

22 күн бұрын

W comment

@balintnemes6774

22 күн бұрын

- caseoh

@jorge69696

22 күн бұрын

wonderful comment

@piggydabest

22 күн бұрын

👍

at 3:31 you can clearly see he was cheating. Just look at the white text "Banned for cheating" surrounded by red. Clearly that's what the cheat detection detected and banned him for cheating

@LeventK

22 күн бұрын

I can't believe they let it slip

@TheAlienpope

22 күн бұрын

@@LeventK Ikr! valve please f

@JACOBTHASECOND

22 күн бұрын

the fact i almost clicked that timestamp to look closely for what you were referring to hurts my soul.

@christofferore6285

22 күн бұрын

You are all retards anyway lol. Happy to see one of you get some blame

@christofferore6285

22 күн бұрын

You are all retards anyway lol. Happy to see one of you get some blame

FACEITt: You're banned. VALVE: Welcome back to our VAC secured servers.

@devil3742

22 күн бұрын

Ah shit here we go again

@christofferore6285

22 күн бұрын

You are all retards anyway lol. Happy to see one of you get some blame

@Klongu_Da_Bongu

22 күн бұрын

@@devil3742 *Starts spinning in place at 300 km/h while shooting at the ground

@The_Random_Bastard

22 күн бұрын

Don't hate the palyer Hate the GAME is sad but real

@jimjunglecock2866

22 күн бұрын

@@The_Random_Bastard no i hate the player aswell for being a piece of shit and cheating

"322" originates from a DotA2 player called Solo betting against his own team, throwing, and taking $322 in winnings from the bet

@tappajaav

22 күн бұрын

What a payday

@akashp01

22 күн бұрын

It isnt about the money -- search for 322 skull and bones on google. The numeral itself is significant

@MaskedDeath_

22 күн бұрын

@@tappajaav fr, bro must be swimming in money now

@littledude52

22 күн бұрын

better then jontay porter, made 20k but gave up his guranteed multi million dollar salary after getting banned for life

@suru2915

22 күн бұрын

@@littledude52feel bad for Michael penis jr

I still really enjoy how you use Caboosing as a vine thud sound

@qudruplem8570

22 күн бұрын

this is so funny, you get a gold star

@LukaRaphael

22 күн бұрын

hello, top comment-reply openers :)

@OscarSkrt

22 күн бұрын

Bing BongoCat

@MrBigNicholas

22 күн бұрын

honestly thats the best way to describe the way he uses it

@moyai7699

22 күн бұрын

3:22 whats the song name

the day I lost faith in faceit was when I faced an high faceit moderator in matchmaking who got boosted by a cheating premate ...posted about it in their discord with downloaded demo and no other moderator cared

@Jmack1lla

22 күн бұрын

absolute power corrupts absolutely

@DarkOmegaMK2

22 күн бұрын

They're discord moderators, of course they don't give a sh1t. There is not a single discord mod that actually gives a damn about what they do or is looking for fair treatment, they are always looking after themselves.

@christofferore6285

22 күн бұрын

They are all retards anyway lol. Happy to see one of them get some blame

@GreyStormPlays

22 күн бұрын

​@@DarkOmegaMK2 I guess you could say they don't give a rats ass about their job.

@XxDramaticBatu

22 күн бұрын

I once had a level 8 enemy .. As level 4, in the first 10 matches i played

Lan + audited hardware is bare minimum for a qualifier that garuntees 250k in sticker money. The incentives to act bad are too great

@von...

22 күн бұрын

250k & you better have full-time security for both of the teams who make it to the finals. 250k is enough for the mob to get involved lol

@emger4275

22 күн бұрын

The only way of a cheatproof competition is LAN + provided hardware.

@TheSuperappelflap

22 күн бұрын

bro people will cheat for 0 money in tier 6 matches just to boost their ego lol

@TheDiner50

22 күн бұрын

@@emger4275 And tamper protection. With a guard looking and also checking for cybernetic implants. Getting to real now aint it? Even then a inside job might sneak in a aimbot tool. Or that config file uploaded to a secure foolproof cloud sync has a vulnerability/inside job and by that means it sneaks in a payload with the cheats to infect the game installation. Right? This is a bloody game we are talking about. More security and consideration then elections gets. ????? Wait. Hold on. That makes no... Someone is knocking at the door violently. BRB.

@san24k

22 күн бұрын

@@emger4275 nahh maybe they should invest in developing a really really good low latency remote play software so when you play these matches you connect to a certified PC running CS instead of your device this way you would have 0 chances of using external software. Maybe it's too soon and the tech isn't there but in a couple years with like 5gigabit connections i can see it happening

Why is the VAC shield off-centered argh

@DiosBabilonia

22 күн бұрын

It's a representation of its ineffectiveness.

@ddream296

22 күн бұрын

SERIOUSLY THIS

@sojjjer

22 күн бұрын

Cool i didnt notice this before, thanks

@m0key1987

22 күн бұрын

Why did u say that, now I cant unsee it

@nooobiechild

21 күн бұрын

I hate how much that triggers me.

The comments before and after is literally one of the most annoying things I find people do, I don't quite understand the psychology of it, but it's extremely strange.

@fidgeysrii4888

22 күн бұрын

People all the time think they know better than others even on topics (they didn't read anything on / know nothing about / aren't a professional in) very common in politics for example. Humanity is frustrating and riddled with main character syndrome.

@n8mo

22 күн бұрын

Yeah. It’s fascinating how once he’s been convicted for cheating a bunch of people will immediately dogpile onto Styko for not catching him. He’s a professional player ffs. If anyone is good enough to notice that the guy was cheating, Styko is. He clearly hid his cheats extremely well if Styko could review multiple demos without becoming suspicious of him. But of course a bunch of level 4 players will always take any opportunity they can to act superior.

@DarkOmegaMK2

22 күн бұрын

It's the psychology of talking shit and then backing out of those words. It's the psychology of a bunch of cowards and sheep.

@chersymale

22 күн бұрын

EXACTLY THIS, it was so annoying to read the comments on that video. its so easy to point out something in hindsight

@1bird_d

22 күн бұрын

Never heard of him or payed attention to the leaderboards (i am NA and top 500, but who caree about elo) until the verdict came out. His gameplay looked uninteresting and had nothing special, which shouldn’t be the case for someone who wins every faceit game. The only thing that looks special is that he rarely entries and almost always baits while winning every “hard” engagement in 4v4, 3v3, etc. 5v4 he almost always baits and never plays to where he can lose, seemingly because he plays with info

He literally exposed himself by trying to replace one evil with another, not understanding that the command would‘ve got him banned in the actual ban wave. So he never used the command, but he felt to lie about it.

@KNDCHV

21 күн бұрын

Wait what? People who used the sv_cheats command got banned in the last VAC wave? Do you have proof of that? I was considering just to try it for few seconds, thank God I didn't use it, but still can you give me some proof that people who used it got banned in the recent wave?

I love the background music

@Meloron_

22 күн бұрын

Then buy the music kit 🤑🤑🤑💶💵💶💶💶💰💳

@Luigi_Pizza

22 күн бұрын

​@@Meloron_mid music kit tbh

@FijyFilms

22 күн бұрын

@@Luigi_Pizza😱😱

@neodymus

22 күн бұрын

jokes asides, that's music 3klikphilips personnally composed

@texmj123

22 күн бұрын

i like when it goes waayyyooowaaaa

Cheating is so common in most FPS's now that I just assume for every blatantly obvious cheater there are 10 more who are just hiding it.

Hell yeah, now im indirectly featured in 2 of my favourite youtubers' video's.

@MEMUNDOLOL

21 күн бұрын

MOM MOM! IM IN TV

We live in a society. Mostly everyone praised him before the ban and now they're acting like they knew all along and pointing at things

Whenever someones says "nah the are DEFINITELY not cheating", I cringe super hard. Closet cheaters are the reason you can never say that. You can suspect someone to cheat or just say that at least you see no clear EVIDENCE that they are cheating, but never that a player is clean. Watching CS2 demos has taught me that even the opponents that I never suspected and who were the bottom of the leaderboard sometimes had blatant wallhacks, just missing the required aim for it to have any impact.

@TheSuperappelflap

22 күн бұрын

you dont need to watch demo for that, just spectate your teammates. i often see guys at the bottom of the team walling, just baiting everyone, and maybe they get 1 kill at the end of the round with info they didnt have

@TapPaires-ob2lr

21 күн бұрын

This. Checking the ban checker, it's more often than 50% of the time that the bottom fraggers are the ones who got vacced later on. Proooobably because they still sucked with the cheats, and had to turn it up a notch. Or then they used ones taht get caught easily for the same reason they're bad at cs: they're dumb.

@HandsomeMadMax

21 күн бұрын

@@TheSuperappelflap yeah true. Its just very naive how most people only suspect the top fraggers (or high elo players) of cheating and not anyone else most of the time.

thx for talking about this topic, especially in this calm and collected demeanor.

The only way i can continue to play the game is to block enemy names, block enemy chat, block my teammates' names and delude myself into thinking everyone is better than me. Damn their gaming chairs!

@superlad6684

Күн бұрын

Yeah, if you're playing faceit, there is probably an ACTUAL hacker in maybe 1/100 games you play. I think they are just better than you, lil bro.

I really appreciate your videos. Thanks for the upload!

Another issue is if cheating is rampant, reports for legit players having a really good game will go up, impacting their trust factor, and kind of making a vicious circle. Or you have a 4k round and then the entire team dies to the same guy for the rest of the game, all because you had a good round.

@Alex_zer0_Shoveller

22 күн бұрын

that's why "trusted partners" section in overwatch has been added, because i believe valve is outsourcing to select third party companies running A.i demo review service for obvious shit like spinbot/wallhack. They can't let people with even 150 wins like before review matches, because everyone is paranoid and on a witch hunt to ban cheaters. Imagine the amount of new players that have grinded 150 wins within the first year of playing getting their hands on overwatch, they honestly wouldn't know shit

@user-jc2in3cp3g

22 күн бұрын

Trust factor doesn’t exist anymore

@polocatfan

22 күн бұрын

good. if you feel like someone is cheating when it's very easy to cheat, fucking report them.

@dewitnow1765

22 күн бұрын

​@@polocatfanthats not a good environment for a competitive shooter like Counter Strike. Its to the point where every lucky shot, every good play, and good gamesense is being called out as cheating. Valve needs an actual anti-cheat to combat this issue otherwise it hurts the credibility of legit players who are just good at the game.

@TheSuperappelflap

22 күн бұрын

most of my reports are from teammates after i call them out for cheating. and then you get a cooldown. im basically forced to have a bunch of alt accounts just so i can call out cheating or leave games when people cheat.

Besides the fact that the overmatch system has not been usable since the CS2 release, I still don’t think that players should do the unpaid janitor work that Valve completely ignores while raking in millions. Valorant isn’t free of cheaters by any means, but there are no ragehacks running rampant like in CS at the moment. On the other hand I’d rather play against a spinbot with a Scar instead of getting invested in a match and trying to win, only to find out that someone was looking through the wall in crucial rounds. I barely ever see anyone complimenting an opponent on a shot they hit, because cheating is so widespread and rampant. Sad state really

@psylina

22 күн бұрын

Problem is, letting players do this unpaid janitor work ended up ruining the data vacnet got fed because of people just buying accounts with ow and putting false verdicts

@jebbyy32

22 күн бұрын

Alright so we use something equivalent to faceit anticheat which clearly also has problems. And we're right back to where we are now.

@TheDraiken

22 күн бұрын

I have over 4k hours of CS and never faced a spinbot. I have my suspicions of less blatant cheaters but those are very few, and even fewer were confirmed by a ban. Maybe I'm just extremely lucky, but these allegations that cheaters are everywhere seem exaggerated by vocal minorities. It just gives players that suck at the game an easy excuse, that they then use to confirm their existing biases. 99.9999% of players that call others cheaters never even bother to open a replay to confirm. That tells the whole story.

@christofferore6285

22 күн бұрын

Problem is You are all retards anyway lol. Happy to see one of you get some blame

@jebbyy32

22 күн бұрын

@@TheDraiken you're almost certainly 100% right here The story changes daily. The running story right now is 20k+ is where all the cheaters are (also known as the top 1% of all players)

Yep i had a great game on ancient the other night, the kind of game where your shots just hit, and you can do no wrong. Got accused of cheating, then an enemy player started rage hacking. It just sucks the enjoyment out of the game, i dont often play that well and was having a great time. Then bang.. all ruined. If cheating wasnt a thing, we could actually celebrate people playing well, instead of being suspicious all the time :(

@mediumplayer1

22 күн бұрын

Yeah, played wingman a month ago with a friend of mine, only bought shotguns and won the first half by a landslide. Little sad losers got mad, one of them took the whole technical timeout to reconnect to return with ragehacks (aim+wh). We still tied due to them not knowing how to play and had a good laugh about it, but someone definetly got mad.

@assetaden6662

22 күн бұрын

@@mediumplayer1 wingman is sadly trash filled with rage botters. I've met like 14 cheaters in just a few games. 100% of my games had at least 1 cheater on it, and some were 3 players out of 4 (the 4th player being me).

@JohnDoeWasntTaken

22 күн бұрын

What the actual fuck is happening to these games bro. Remember back when cheating was actually relatively rare in these shooters? Now it's fucking rampant, what the hell. I never imagined CS2 to become known as a game full of cheaters with ineffective anticheat. Like why are we experiencing this seemingly sudden epidemic of hackers? I kinda blame it on the wave of people who joined PC gaming back in 2020 during lockdown. The population on Steam probably almost doubled if not more from all the people getting gaming PCs. And now we have to deal with the hacking they brought with them. I HATE to use this word but... it's the normies. Before 2020 you were weird for gaming on PC, now it's normalized. Just my tinfoil conspiracy theory. More people naturally means more hackers. I also think it brought a lot of people in who don't respect the integrity of these games and don't see hacking as a major offense like pre-2020 PC gamers do. Just saying, maybe I'm wrong, but before 2020 I never saw hackers in any game I played. Hundreds of hours of TF2 and CSGO, seen zero. Now? Pfft, they're everywhere.

@mediumplayer1

22 күн бұрын

@@JohnDoeWasntTaken you know what? You are probably right...

@mediumplayer1

22 күн бұрын

@@assetaden6662 afaik, wingman used to be the go-to option for a lot of cheaters even back in CS:GO, as it had no Overwatch, so you could do whatever and it would never get seen by anyone.

At first glance thought it was Wonderful* from Na'Vi, thank you for clarifying it, lol

@sh1niii

22 күн бұрын

you really are dumb arent you

@jamesbrendan5170

22 күн бұрын

r.i.p Aniki/Billy Herrington... 歪みねぇな!!!!

Maybe this is defeatist but i feel like subtle cheating in online matches isn't possible to "solve" entirely, even invasive ac can only do so much, imo the correct course of action is to treat "subtle" cheating as an unavoidable possibility in online matches and only do serious competitive matches in the LAN format. If people want to play online without cheaters, real ID verification requirement and lifetime bans for cheating might be the only way. all in all I don't think it's a game or industry problem, it's definitely a people & culture problem

@leosimvuiseng2926

22 күн бұрын

true tho i think game dev have to work with governemt to implement law cause cheating cant dealt

@PureRok

22 күн бұрын

@@leosimvuiseng2926 Absolutely not. The government does not belong sticking it's nose anywhere close to this.

@redline841

22 күн бұрын

It gets to a point where if the cheating is so subtle, is it even cheating at that point?

@AnthraciteGari

22 күн бұрын

@@redline841 from a player's perspective, if the enemy is cheating super subtly, it becomes similar to playing against someone who's just better. But there are differences which would make the game less fun if you're being cheated against, it's still not a good thing.

@filipbergman4232

22 күн бұрын

Very good take, could not say it better myself.

Reddit: Dont want to play with cheaters? "Just play Faceit, bro"

@D3nn1s

22 күн бұрын

Tbf its a pretty effective way. There will be cheater everywhere where theres a competition so not really a huge surprise. Just a surprise that he managed to be #1 before it was detected

@assssss3661

22 күн бұрын

@@D3nn1s dma card cant get hit untill firmware gets hit, theres pools you can make your own also but itll slip into a pool depending on how you did it and how effectively you hide it. he prolly got fucked on some pool firmware and got hit

@D3nn1s

22 күн бұрын

@@assssss3661 i have no idea what you just said :D Dma? Pool? What are you talking about? :)

@sdHansy

22 күн бұрын

there are far less cheaters on faceit

@Chrissi33004

22 күн бұрын

@@D3nn1s If a cheater can reach rank 1 before being detected then thats a bad sign for the anticheat tbh. Imagine the Rank 1 LoL Player is a scripter instead of a pro player. Would be a terrible look

It seems Valve is really stubborn on wanting to have hard evidence of third-party software running on the end-user's machine (along with their commitment to be unintrusive). That's the only good reason I can think of for letting rage hacks run rampant on their servers. In addition to what has been suggested using stats like the ones Leetify generates, it should be really easy to observe a player's camera vector over time and pick out rage hacks. It would be more complicated than this but i.e. a player is looking down for >95% of the round and making crazy flicks getting multikills - that should probably get flagged Things like: -Average player speed per round -Natural vs unnatural crosshair movement (especially during flicks and sprays) - bullets fired per second (like seriously how are those cheats not detected) -wallbangs based on information gained in round (this is a really complex and advanced metric though) Could all be used to detect unnatural behavior. If not banning players, these metrics should at least be grouped together in a trust-factor-like manner I think the idea is that valve isn't quite sure of what bugs do and don't exist in the game. They aren't the type to be banning based off of exploits, only third party software. In the same vein they're also definitely very wary of falsely banning players. If they're not gonna ban based on in-game metrics I think our only hope is a more aggressive trust-factor system based on those metrics.

@chervilious

22 күн бұрын

Statistical anomaly is a double edge sword. I know multiple person having a disease that make their recoil jittery. Which is a statistical anomaly in itself. While those things are good to keep track, it punishes the unconventional player. Remember that Simple at one point has horrible crosshair placement and he was a bit dominating at the top of the scene

@anaiagagaear

22 күн бұрын

L opinion

@Kyorinmaru

22 күн бұрын

@@chervilious lol what? S1mple always had exceptional crosshair placement throughout his career. There were even stats, that denied that opinion, by showing that he had to flick less than his teammates.

@assetaden6662

22 күн бұрын

@@Kyorinmaru that part was wrong, but still, simple has a jittery crosshair, especially during flicks. You know what else has jittery crosshair when it flicks? Any kind of aimbot, especially silent ones.

@GrandpaGameHacker

22 күн бұрын

I am anti cheat dev and these are all indictators for sure. None of them are hard and fast excepting that extreme rage hack blatent stats such has 99/100 accuracy and 5k every round and odd camera vectors. Leetify does make it quite easy to see who is cheating, based on what I know of cheaters. Additionally cheaters on matchmaking tend to flock together in groups of 2 or more, lending more information when you combine stats of people who group together. They do this to avoid getting kicked by their team.

I don't think you can be certain that he used the sv_cheats exploit, as he likely claimed that he was banned for that in the hope that he could blend in with the crowd of 'sv_cheats cheaters' rather than the 'dedicated software/firmware cheaters'. For some reason a few prominent morons showed the former camp a lot of sympathy, despite being functionally identical to the latter camp.

22 күн бұрын

But how do we know that he wasn't using the 'sv_cheat' cheat, and instead some external cheat? Faceit handles those bans like VAC, but at least VAC tells you if you got Overwatch banned or game banned. Being the number one player on the platform, Faceit should at least make a statement and tell us why he was banned.

@vik1ng313

22 күн бұрын

@ A FACEIT admin (Darwin or something like that) tweeted that ALL sv_cheats exploiters were banned in a single wave and nothing since. Any ban after that is because of actual cheats.

@dvdbeef

22 күн бұрын

@ 1:24

@okarowarrior

22 күн бұрын

@ commenting without even watching the content, i see

@TapPaires-ob2lr

21 күн бұрын

@ dum-dum.

Average Faceit Player 🤓: We have no cheaters

@snkalex9312

22 күн бұрын

because of free DMA cheats and chinese with DMA hardware now its more easly not to say its full with new account with maxim 2-3 medals i dont think all of them are just smurfs

@lian2k386

22 күн бұрын

@@snkalex9312 you dont get these new accounts with super match and on higher elo these ppl are not rampant. You mostly discover these kind of players when leveling up.

@randy89555

22 күн бұрын

​@snkalex9312 there's a thing called a punctuation mark (,)

@assssss3661

22 күн бұрын

@@snkalex9312 david dma!! for da win

@syv2un1

22 күн бұрын

Cheat developers: We have FaceIt proof cheats for sale $$$$

2:36 they way you pronounced Consss is hilarious. I listen to a French band called Igorrr which is spelled that way, for exactly this reason xD

@ddream296

22 күн бұрын

i listened to only few igorrrrrrrrrrrr songs and every single one of them were great, thanks to random osu videos

Man I'm in love with your "Valve, please fix", it ALWAYS hits hard :D Thank you!

Stuff like this is why i struggle to open shooter games, the uncertainty kills my motivation to try and become a better player

idk what rank i am on faceit but i plan to become numba 1 and then also become ban -burger40

@zx9018

22 күн бұрын

God bless

@jaynay8541

22 күн бұрын

did your 40th brother burger40 say that mr 406th brother burger406

@Sir_Steven

22 күн бұрын

Good luck on your journey

@ValkyrieMain

22 күн бұрын

@@jaynay8541 he's burger 40 (my whole world was turned upside down when I found it out, please don't be too shocked)

@the10ofdiamondscard

22 күн бұрын

good luck burger 406 -the tenth card

2:45 Yooo its me

@earthchan8431

22 күн бұрын

true 🎉

@Mira-cv7dx

22 күн бұрын

Woh What a Star 🎉

@darkloud666

22 күн бұрын

thanks guys!!❤❤

1:21 the best soundtrack but mising snapping

Thanks for this video and summarizing how many players are feeling. Playing against hackers ruins the game. People are even questioning whether pros are hacking DURING tournaments. It's such a terrible time in the game. I've been playing since 1999 and cs_mansion was the main map. I played through the days where we had to download the updates on 56k. CS1.6 transition to CS:CZ and CS:S and then the weird transition into CS:GO. This is by far the most profound time that I can remember. No one can be trusted and the the biggest violator of that is Valve. They allowed this to happen. My only guess is that they will implement a system where you have to pay to get out of the lobbies of hackers since they seem to refuse the idea of a kernel level anti-cheat. Something that many people should be very weary of (ESEA bitcoin mining)... The game is unplayable...even in FaceIt. I hope they find something soon, because the game is hurting.

@TheSuperappelflap

22 күн бұрын

pros have and do cheat during tournaments, this was already obvious with flusha in 2015/16 and valve did nothing, so now everyone and their grandmother is cheating at every level of competition. tournament orgs have also refused for years to address these issues by taking basic measures like airgapping the tournament lan networks or not allowing players to plug in their phones and use their own hardware on stage or during practice.

Crazy how a pro player can’t spot cheats. But players who have probably been stuck in silver hell for 3 years from smurfs and cheaters can pick them out like that

Played faceit yesterady. out of 6 matches, at least 3 had a cheater, or a "booster cheater" who q'd with players with literally no games or hours.

Great video as usual!

I always see people complain that VAC is horrible, but the seccond any anti cheat detects normal background apps it's a huge deal.

The worst thing about cheaters is not the spinbot or blatant cheaters but the cheaters that know how to hide they are cheating. I stopped playing CSGO because i hated smurfs and possible cheaters that stomped my team in games.

@kroooassant9899

22 күн бұрын

Well I still play for the thrill of good momentum but I feel you. I think what's happening to CS right now is only the precursor of what might happen on a very large scale to the internet as we know it in general, it is becoming obsolete in front of newere more powerful technologies. People still think internet is made to last forever but in 20-30 years from now I think it will be no more or something completely different, weaponized and definitely not free anymore.

@Skrenja

22 күн бұрын

@@kroooassant9899 The internet hasn't been "free" for years.

@emger4275

22 күн бұрын

I feel you and you will never get rid of all of them but if you could filter the majority of cheaters, i think the game is very well playable. I think faceit shows this very well, even though they are certainly not cheat free, the experience is much better than in valve matchmaking.

@TheSuperappelflap

22 күн бұрын

the cheating is also forcing people to smurf. i played for thousands of hours just on 1 account and never smurfed. made it to GE in solo queue. but the cheating got so bad that i now have to have 8 accounts just to be able to play a game or two sometimes, then i get kicked by my cheating teammates and get 14 day cooldown, so i have to go to the next account. it does suck for the couple legit people i play against but 90% of matches there are cheaters in both teams.

@imgladnotu9527

22 күн бұрын

yeah, its really funny how people seem to think other people who most likely arent in a good state of mental well being because of certain circumstances that do set their pitch to down and yaw backwards and just start raging against the entire server, most likely in retaliation to someone on the enemy team either closeting or semiraging, is the definitive problem that they think everyone else should think about. but no, it really isn't, if cheating is getting into the gated communities that most cheaters wouldn't care about, therein lies the issue, its not that there's a bunch of people raging in valve's public servers, its that its gotten so bad that even faceit has the issue, even with their highly intrusive approach similar to valorant's vanguard, they cant keep out the most closeted of cheaters. back then we had solutions for this that didn't intrude on someone's personal digital privacy. h u m a n b a s e d r e v i e w / m o d e r a t i o n, but now with machine learning on the rise, i think that it can be possible to offload most cases to the algorithm, and have edge cases be covered by humans. look, dont get me wrong, the fact that its an issue to begin with isnt great, but if we're allowing ourselves to be blind by those that actually care about stroking their egos and "making themselves look like X pro player" when in reality its just humanized legit aimbot/triggerbot, esp, and in the worst case its an external cheat that's visual assistance only or with humanized aim assist or triggerbot.

ive played a few open EU qualifiers for bigger tournaments, and closet cheating is unfortunately not uncommon in those kinds of settings in my case, ive played 2 closet cheaters in IEM open qualifiers, only for them to be completely stomped by a reputable organization like Spirit Academy, most likely in an attempt to stay under the radar. them losing so hard to pros makes it hard for me to argue my case that they were cheating, and faceit has yet to respond or even acknowledge what ive seen

@assetaden6662

22 күн бұрын

Yeah, AKUMA once stomped the Na'Vi and got disqualified after that. New generation of closet cheaters are learning, so catching them would be even harder than before.

The biggest HvH cheat creators are from Russia and they spoke about custom made cheats for pro teams and players that use them, without giving any names ofc, they spoke about crosshair that changes color based on enemy direction, about the netgraph displaying enemy coords, and much more. The interviewer from Cybershoke also said they had problems where teams were requested to provide event organizers with videos of each players screens in online matches and they were submitting only 4/5 videos with some players refusing to do so. They also said that most cheaters are from the CIS region. Ofc, I don't think they are referring to tier 1 teams.

@TheSuperappelflap

22 күн бұрын

i have heard the exact same from danish cheat coders when astralis was winning everything (and obviously not being completely legit) just admit fact, most high tier cs players are on some gear one way or the other

@JohnSmith-px1fm

22 күн бұрын

@@TheSuperappelflap Part of me wants to live in a world where DanM was right

@thekamotodragon

21 күн бұрын

I thought Germany was also a big source for the cheating scene as well?

This brings me back to when i played Source. My friend were banned on most servers in under few hours. I also been banned a few times. Back in those days things like nade lineup and timings were unknown concept, even for server admins. One time i were accused of using anti flash. Dude i just spray and pray when i get flashed in the open.

I watched NeokCS's video on this and he reviewed two games. I could not tell they were cheating at all, it's extremely hard to tell.

22 күн бұрын

NeokCS was talking about this guy as if it were so easy to tell that he was cheating, and the only argument he had was that he pulled his knife in some questionable situations, as if that would make him a blatant cheater, and that he's so obvious with it, when in reality everyone with actual experience at a high level in cs would hesitate to make such a statement.

@dioivan77755

22 күн бұрын

​@the Neok vid was exactly like the post-ban comments...pure bullshit haha. I've seen the demos as well, and no way that you could tell he was blatantly cheating.

If anyone would have shown up three weeks ago and explained why the guy is cheating, everybody would have laughed and said "he's just that good".

people seem to be very ignorant to the amount of players who just toggles to get a quick overview or only have a slight aim-.assist. It doesn't have to be full on WH all the time. It could just be toggling radarhack once a round.

I don't understand how people are discovering that cheats are rampant in CS

@CatheteriZedEYE

22 күн бұрын

there are no cheats in CS2, everyone is just god like and it's a skill issue :P

@jesukxd8494

19 күн бұрын

Everyone just have mastered bhopping while looking at the floor while no scope spraying enemy team with scout. Its new meta. Real question is why are cs2 pros so bad.​@@CatheteriZedEYE

But he is still not VAC banned? Top notch Valve.

Let’s go, I can blame cheats if anyone does slightly better than me on FaceIt now too.

What can we do about it? quit playing the damn game before valve fix their shit.

FaceIt is known for having a bunch of cheaters

@laban3348

22 күн бұрын

Thats true. I better play ESEA than faceit

@ianai787

22 күн бұрын

@@laban3348ESEA is literally dead. 3kliks if you’re reading this, ESEA was bought out by the same people who bought out ESL and FACEIT. Before this, ESEA was completely DEAD in North America. 20+ minute queue times for a match against people who didn’t take the game seriously.

@BennyR92

22 күн бұрын

Premier is known for having a couple players who don't cheat, lol.

@Niklas1611

22 күн бұрын

​@@laban3348and let them use your pc for bitcoin mining

@ytbusernamelol

22 күн бұрын

but... they're the same?@@laban3348

fuck this game

1:54 forsenE

@leonyx42

22 күн бұрын

Jessesen

I know your channel is primary about CS and tech... but could you do a video about Vangard kernel anti cheat?

do not trust that smurfing ban on faceit, they always say that when they ban a cheater as they dont wanna admit ppl cheating on their platform

I have a question I've been meaning to ask. Maybe Valve can't detect cheats in game, but why can they not look back at stats post-match to ban cheaters or at the very least discount those games. I have met spinbotters in my games who on Leetify have 50ms time to damage or 60K/D. Shouldn't this be easy for Valve to detect? If timetodamage < 100ms then banPlayer. Am I missing something?

@dimitar4y

22 күн бұрын

lmao are you going to realize you are a slave, a product, a chicken that's farmed for eggs, a cow farmed for milk - to valve you're just a profit node, they don't care about you or the game.

@ddream296

22 күн бұрын

what exactly timetodamage means though? like if i scan someone through smoke/prefire corner my timetodamage will be low? what if its gonna be only 1-2 rounds and then enemy/my team will surrender, my timetodamage should be really low by then

@dioivan77755

22 күн бұрын

To me, an even bigger question is, how is it possible that the VAC cannot detect literally impossible stuff like milion actions per second, 5 scout shots in less than a second. It seems so basic, I mean, yeah there are instances where you can enable some stuff via sv cheats, but still, such things should be easily detectable or not possible to do at all.

@filipbergman4232

22 күн бұрын

@@dioivan77755five scout shots in one second? What am I missing here

@Alex_zer0_Shoveller

22 күн бұрын

@@ddream296 yes, basing solely on time to damage would be a terrible metric, if you get one good prefire in, then the team surrenders you'd get banned in theory yes

I can say that he wasn't cheating 2 years ago when he was playing in Insilio team (where he got recognised in pro-scene at all). I guess his intrusive thoughts won somewhere between 2022-2024

@kroooassant9899

22 күн бұрын

Does not really matters, he cheated, the only people who could be pardoned are noobs not a pro with over 10 years in the game and community and I sincerelly believe thee people should be sued fo MONEY. It's ok though, we have his name and you can easily retrace his links to his relatives he will regret for sure and that will be well deserved.

@alexandreiss0agr276

22 күн бұрын

how do you "can say"?? did you watch his demos? are you god ?

@cloke3076

22 күн бұрын

@@alexandreiss0agr276 no, because Insilio is a KZreadr's team and their entire training/playing process was recorded to media. So while he was a part of that team he didn't cheat. and the point of my entire comment is to answer the question "how many of his 10k matches did he cheat" Not a god lmao

@alexandreiss0agr276

22 күн бұрын

@@cloke3076 that proves nothing, you can cheat while you stream, how many compilations do you have on youtube of streamers getting caught cheating? you cant say he was cheating 2 years ago.

The point should be. Overwatch is meant for "beyond reasonable doubt". A skilled player with some game lag and a bad connection can look inhuman to a inexperienced player. But also to a pro player it seems. So we need proof of cheating, not investigations and acquisitions.

as someone from a community that semi-regularly has public bans like this, it's amazing how frequently cheaters will get banned and use a presumed silence of the dev to gain face by admitting to a lesser crime. it's also quite depressing how frequently it works. Always funny to see when a dev does break silence and confirms the scumbag to be so.

Cs has to be one of the worst games for cheating considering how popular it is. Such a shame because I used to love this game

He originally played in Insilio, relatively unknown team outside of CIS, but it has a fanatical dedicated following (in both good and bad ways) here. He left it in 2022 because the team was unable to pracc after the obvious geopolitical situation. We can safely say he wasn't cheating during his days in Insilio, because a lot more eyes were on him and there is no way that the team didn't know. That means he started cheating in the last 2 years

@attractivegd9531

22 күн бұрын

cool story bro

@gyrozeppeli00

22 күн бұрын

doesn't matter tho, forsaken was able to cheat at a LAN event and only got caught owing to his poor technique. A subtle aimbot is almost impossible to detect with normal eyes. He wouldn't resort to cheating if he was good enough to go pro in the first place. So I'd say, all of that 14k hours in the game, he was in fact, cheating.

@Klongu_Da_Bongu

22 күн бұрын

It's true, there aren't really any popular teams outside the Confederacy of Independent Systems.

@SioxerNikita

22 күн бұрын

@@gyrozeppeli00 Someone wouldn't resort to cheat if they are good enough? What logic is that? Cheaters don't just cheat because they are not capable of being good enough... sometimes it is to be better... and considering the amount of money on the line, just being pro is not necessarily enough... Your logic is pretty bad.

@syv2un1

22 күн бұрын

There is no rhyme or reason to this. Of course he could have been cheating back then already

I'm just saying. Being better than VAC is no way a benchmark on how good an anticheat is. More like the bar of entry...

The thumbnail of this video is awesome lol

valve pls fix my life

Thank you for bringing this up. A lot of good points in the video!

Do you reckon making the game no longer free to play would help? Right now if someone gets banned, all it takes is a new steam account and they're back on. If they have to pay for £15 or so price tag, that would help deter cheaters surely.

@redline841

22 күн бұрын

Kinda. It will slow down some but even back when CS was a paid game, there are lots of cheaters. There are also steam keys that can make it extremely cheap to buy the game constantly

@olnnn

22 күн бұрын

I mean they could go even more drastic and remove skins and cases from the game which would remove a chunk of the market around exploits for the game but that would also remove a lot of profits for valve

@Arcidi225

22 күн бұрын

Cheats are more expensive than game itself. Afaik 60$ monthly subscription in most cases. (Based on yt interviews with cheats developers) So this 15$ once in a while won't change shit for them. As for people who would use free cheats, it is not a problem at all, vac handles those kind of cheats fast and effectively. Once they are public signature is known it takes minutes to get banned.

@assetaden6662

22 күн бұрын

The game isn't free-to-play though? Raising the price will deter possible players that will choose other games like Valorant. Also, there are millions of accounts with cs that can be bought for dirt-cheap.

I´m not to knowing about the anti-cheat logos used and maybe he mentions it later in the video but is that the Vanguard system that Riot uses or another system?

I for one can NOT believe people are cheating in Counterstrike

@assetaden6662

22 күн бұрын

Fr, it literally can't be. Even the loading screen says "If you are vac banned, you cannot join other VAC secure servers"

Thats really embarrassing

@chairwood

22 күн бұрын

wats ur pfp

@johnhank6721

22 күн бұрын

@@chairwoodgreen girl

@chairwood

22 күн бұрын

@@johnhank6721 ok thx

Premier for pure cheater without acting Faceit for Oscar award acting

@randy89555

22 күн бұрын

👏👏👏

the thumbnail is perfect

Hey I know this ain't the place to discuss this right now, but what was uhhmm, wonderful_y's blue smokey steam background called, anyone here know peeps?

@Keystoney

22 күн бұрын

Ink - The Debut Collection

Sadly Kernel level anti-cheats are not much better at preventing good cheats, unless he randomly turned on some free cheats i suspec this ban is more likeley from data analysis and manual review (banned for being "luckier than possible") rather than faceit's anti-cheat actualy catching cheating software good enough to be undetected for big parts of his career.

At this point, Valve has so many security exploits in their game that the anti-cheat barely matters

@dimitar4y

22 күн бұрын

yep, most high tier cheats have full control over MM servers, in addition to crashing them, instantly cancelling the match, changing the map or instantly securing a win. 'Seen it all. Mostly around SFC ranks you see these craycray bananas.

@IAm-zo1bo

22 күн бұрын

Never say those things happen ​@@dimitar4y

@Spartan322

22 күн бұрын

All games have this problem because you can't just run every player on the server, the user has to have some control over their serverside state. That's the unfortunate state of modern technology.

@IAm-zo1bo

22 күн бұрын

@@Spartan322 but we can't give up

@Spartan322

22 күн бұрын

@@IAm-zo1bo Kernel level anti-cheat is still the dumbest solution.

Should be noted The Prodigies is not one of the dodgy teams spoken about in relation to Wonderful_Y. The ban on consss was only form one tournament organizer and it is hotly contested if he even cheated or not. The Prodigies was a very serious talent development squad of free agents organized by the Prodigy Agency, meaning young players signed to the agency could get playtime as a team while remaining available to sign for free for interested teams. Wonderful_Y's dodgy teams refer to orgless squads from the CIS region, such as Doge Soldiers with Qweall (strongly suspected of associating with cheaters circumventing bans in Major qualifiers) and Sergiz (famously, a member of Akuma, several members of which are nowadays banned for matchfixing by ESIC). Several other games and teams in open qualifiers and alike, too low to show up on HLTV, and thus go largely unnoticed. Just saying - while consss himself is a bit suspect because of the ban from European Pro League, it's far from concerned and the team "The Prodigies" should not be considered shady by any means.

as someone who plays a lot of Dead By Daylight, the talk about subtle cheaters being worse than blatant ones really rings true

Rootkit anti-cheat still can't detect someone messing with a DMA device

@theobserver4214

22 күн бұрын

DMA Devices are more expensive and require a lot more effort to use. Manual review can take care of them.

@presentfactory

22 күн бұрын

It's doable to bypass kernel anticheat anyways if you know what you're doing, at the end of the day anticheat doesn't really solve anything and is just a pointless arms race where the user will always win, because the user (should) always be in control of their computer.

@grigorecosmin

22 күн бұрын

If you think every kid has $200+ to spend on a DMA and also the knowledge to set it up you are extremely wrong. Rootkit anti cheat is the solution to 90% of the problem.

@patrickmartin2236

22 күн бұрын

​@@grigorecosmin> He doesn't know about obfuscated virtualisation / SBC based machine vision power augmented mice.

donk is next 😈

@mediumplayer1

22 күн бұрын

Bro was walling on major

Whats the music you use in your videos?

does anyone know where we can listen to the background music? love it specially that first one we can hear in many of the 3kliks videos

>play modern competitive game >install kernel level malware >be stuck on windows >still get hackers wow so epic can we please get more kernel level AC?!?!?!?!

@STvE7737

21 күн бұрын

kernel level ac is the only reason he got banned goofy

@vietnamsemonky4082

21 күн бұрын

@its_bleak Nah its more so people who actually care about the security of their devices xd or just people that are annoyed that a kernal level AC still isn't stopping cheaters.

@randomguy_21

20 күн бұрын

@its_bleak the kinda mf who says "all linux users are cheaters.

@Name_cannot_be_blank

20 күн бұрын

@@STvE7737you dont know if it was because its kernel level

@STvE7737

20 күн бұрын

@@Name_cannot_be_blank did you watch the video? he was banned on faceit…

To play online games your forced to have the most intrusive of software possible running on your personal computer? That is the solution? To bad single player games that have you pay $70+ loaded with loot boxes and endless money extraction ALSO force that intrusive crap on you. Not only ruining the game performance with frame murder and stutters. Also taking hold of your hole computer and scanning every little dirty secret. Like what brand of bread you like. Or what company to sell your personalized ad information to. The solution is not to force down to the firmware and kernel level anti-cheat. That is the kind of solution your going for when trying to fight digital warfare in a world war. Or you know... Steal with fake consent your 'data'. It really dose not matter how one twist and turns it. It is stalking activity rooting around someone's else's trash bin. Let alone walking right up to there schedule board and noting down al of it. Or taking sleep habits that not even the freaking person your stalking are putting down as data on a paper or storage device! All for your safety ofc. Or to stop spinbots? Closet cheaters? What is the excuses? All are bad. If Valve or anyone wants full kernel and complete control of a machine? Then the machine better be sold as that too. Like a console ONLY to play those online games. And the only thing that SteamDeck truly have going for it? It is the fact that is is a personal computer. Running opposite to Microsoft and Windows trying to control the costumers device. Nintendo Switch is not a personal computer. It might be able to run a web browser or whatever. You can probably jail-brake it and mod it. You can probably also develop cheats and spinbots for Nintendo games/hardware if you want and cared to. It really solves nothing trying to stop bad actors and cheats. If there is any proof needed then go and look up all the examples of DRM's that ruins games. Where pirates got the clear and in all ways the better experience. The hole POINT of Steam is that instead of fighting pirates they deliver a better service then pirating. I will not buy a console solely to play CS2. Rather stop playing online games completely if your being made to both pay and be handled at the same time like a crook/cheat. Solving the cheating problems is up on Valves and their server sides. Not forcing costumers give them the keys to there front door. And lock to the garbage bin. And optional give up your time table. We want to know when you walk passed a dark corner. For your safety! Totally! Do not mind the pixels I'm holding. Gambled for the pixel in something called loot boxes.

for each breath of fresh and relaxing video there are infinity of brain seizure inducing soundtracks in other videos...

Remember Subroza, people in the comment section could watch any demo and say that theyre blatantly cheating.

YOOOOOOOO I AM IN THE VIDEO LETS GOOOOOOOOOO BIGGEST ACHIVEMENT OF MY LIFE 😊😊😊

i kinda wish the reasons for a ban were accessible to everyone. theres so much speculation in cases like these and theres really no use in keeping this private imo. if you cheat, you should be shamed.

@emilgebl8644

22 күн бұрын

No idea why faceit haven't gone out and said anything. I think it's very unprofessional to event comment at first, but then not follow up on it or anything.

@TheN1hilist

22 күн бұрын

a lot of times devs stay quiet about reasons for the ban to make sure the cheat devs dont know what got them caught so in theory this makes it harder for them to patch the cheats to become undetectable again

@ThatsMySkill

22 күн бұрын

@@emilgebl8644 for real. the dude could say anything at this point. just put the facts on the table man

@ThatsMySkill

22 күн бұрын

@@TheN1hilist eh i think thats a dumb reason. they dont have to be specific about it. just say "used external software to gain an unfair advantage" and it would be enough.

@martinszymanski2607

22 күн бұрын

​why? you just described how every cheat program works, this is a pointless statement in the context of a cheating accusation @@ThatsMySkill

Hi Mr. Phillip, i am early today!!

Number one in Eu and Na both getting banned is crazy

The youtube comment section suddenly acts like they have 3 Major MVPs under their belt when in reality none of them could really tell before the accusations.

I play on 2x speed just to wait for the Caboosing. 1:23 btw

@kipchickensout

22 күн бұрын

Why.

@IAm-zo1bo

22 күн бұрын

Are you one of the people who are allowed to say the word retard

The Y in "Wonderful_Y" might be an upsilon, or a "U" in cyrillic.

Nice video Philip

10k matches that dude has no life outside the game...

@Frogesh

22 күн бұрын

No pros in anything has Life outside their craft. Newton for example was completely obsessed with physics. Ronaldo is another example. But also w0nderful_y earning money prolly from salary and faceit cash while cheating so its free money lmaoo

@Nova32x

22 күн бұрын

​@@Frogesh lmao you did not just compare a faceit nolife to Isaac Newton

@Frogesh

22 күн бұрын

@@Nova32x I compared pros with issac newton. The obsession bit. I compared Wonderful_y with a corrupt politician

@Hesgamein

22 күн бұрын

🍎

@thatcooldudeisawesome876

22 күн бұрын

This guy has more hours than the pros bro

I've gotta say when OW first came out and it became a popular thing for YTers to make videos of them reviewing OW cases... I just like lost all respect for the one's I was subscribed to that did it. The suspect takes his hand off of the mouse running out of spawn and its like "SEE! HES GOT WALLS!", then it would be like the YTer talking to the subs and the suspect kills someone that comes around the corner and it'd be like "DID YOU SEE THAT!? HOW DID HE KNOW HE WAS THERE"... dude you were just talking into your camera, you're not listening to or paying attention to whats going on. When I reviewed OW cases I took it really seriously. It's not just cheatmakers or malicious people that polluted the AI test data it's a bunch really vain people aswell.

@psylina

22 күн бұрын

That's why ow access has to be given strictly with much higher requirememts than before. OW access should also be able to be taken away permanently if someone makes too many mistakes in their judgement

You know shits boutta get real when that caboosing beat drops

IN A SHOCKING TWIST people are actually surprised

I'm not even playing any other CS than source anymore but I still watch your videos bc I really like your style. You seem like a person one could not dislike. And your videos are made so well, with some chuckles here and there. You could read me dictionary

i dont think valve has any reputation to lose anymore when it comes to their matchmaking and cheat detection... it has been unplayable at a higher level for so many years now

@user-bt8xr5si9y

22 күн бұрын

True but atleast when someone does get a VAC Ban you can be 99% sure that they actually were cheating

@psylina

22 күн бұрын

​@@user-bt8xr5si9y100%*, Only speculation to be left is when someone only gets a game ban instead of a vac ban.

@nubz4lif

22 күн бұрын

@@psylina There has been (obviously rare) cases where viruses have triggered VAC, and there was also that whole AMD Anti-Lag stuff from half a year ago, so it's definitely not 100%.

@arijitkulkarni

22 күн бұрын

​@@nubz4lifas well as people getting banned because of acting like spin botters with high sensitivity, so unfortunately VAC has had a few false positives now

@Creepernom

22 күн бұрын

Get a better trust factor and you'll have a much more enjoyable experience. No cheaters, no toxic players, no trolls. It's nice.

That's exactly why kernel level anti-cheats won't solve any issues, while also opening a gaping security hole in every computer it's in. It'll just move the bar for cheaters to get even better cheats, which they inevitably will. I applaud Valve for not falling for the easy bait of "just do this!" that the uninformed masses ask for. People want easy solutions for an extremely hard problem, and there simply aren't any.

@DarkOmegaMK2

22 күн бұрын

if kernel level anti cheats won't work, then they need to go deeper... INSTALL THE ANTI CHEAT INTO OUR SOULS!!!

@mememaximus6309

22 күн бұрын

@@DarkOmegaMK2 im down for that

@tappajaav

22 күн бұрын

Kernel level anticheats seem to be working pretty well for many games...

@Arcidi225

22 күн бұрын

​@@tappajaavyou just don't know that it doesn't work, because those games aren't labeled with "has cheating problem". If you make kernel level anticheat, cheats will be kernel level too, and advantage is gone. Games with anticheats are becoming snake that eats its own tail. Same as it was with antipiracy shits, players who bought the game got lesser expierience compared to those who bought them.

@tappajaav

22 күн бұрын

@@Arcidi225 Faceit has far less cheaters on it and the AC runs on kernel level, therefore I think it's reasonable to deduct that Kernel level anticheats do work, whether the game is CS or not

This is why I stopped playing competitive games in my early 20s. It's just not worth the drama. I play games for fun and don't care if I lose because if I had to care about THAT I'd be in a permanent state of emotional toxic shock.

0:05 that deck collection goes hard, but does he skate?