Are These CSGO Pros Cheating? | A Cheater's Perspective
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Professional CSGO players are on another level on insane at the game, but are some too insane? Today we'll be looking into CSGO pro cheating scandals and I'll give my own opinion on it.
Are These CSGO Pros Cheating? | A Cheater's Perspective
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@futuristic-
Жыл бұрын
These type of videos are way better and way more original. Would love to see more.
@kwjc01
Жыл бұрын
i love how unique your vids are compared to the hvh scene. Nice work.
@Rootzi
Жыл бұрын
more of these documentary type videos they are brilliant
@luke7367
Жыл бұрын
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@verylongchannelhandle
Жыл бұрын
Did not expect this type of video from you tbh! Very well done and it's clear you put a lot of effort into it! Good job
Honestly it’s so hard to judge some clips because everything we see as a spectator, is not what the players see. Things such as latency, monitor, screen resolution, settings.
@JohnWick-ch3ix
Жыл бұрын
The most important you forgot the brain of other player
@Mahjoneesi
Жыл бұрын
Especially when people "trace" enemies through walls. It's most of the times just muscle memory doing it's job. Of course in some cases there are cheats involved.
@therealb888
Жыл бұрын
All these variables can be replicated, tested and can be subject to statistical analysis. Essentially measuring how much of these variables actually make a difference and how can we reduce their impact so we can observe and investigate or detect with the least error rate possible.
@arizonad8012
Жыл бұрын
Acually is not.I've played CS 1.6 and now CS GO (started from last year), and I was always able to say who is cheating.Even in the open, based on how the player reacts.The point is that people from organizations don't care.When CS 1.6 was popular there were maps that you can choose, made by various people, each of those maps had admins who took care, so no cheaters could survive.You find someone suspisious, you record him/her using cheats and you ban him/her.End of story.Those were good times.Now you find a cheater, you record him/her, report him/her, and nothing happens which encourages more and more people to use it.
@dagroseren
Жыл бұрын
@@Mahjoneesi I have a friend that can track people with sound only, not a good player otherwise, which when watching him do it from spectating looks sketch af
Its amazing how forsaken single handedly destroyed a potential millions dollar worth of Indian gaming industry
@taekwondoinc.2279
Жыл бұрын
Yeh no If they were good they wpuldve pushed through all that
@lternatively
Жыл бұрын
@@taekwondoinc.2279 oh for sure buddy. you must know all about csgo professional leagues.
@nlnd6490
Жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@legitfake4786
Жыл бұрын
Valve do not support us look at Valorant they have Indian servers in CSGO we have to play with Singaporean servers. Valorant also supports eSports in India and Asia. Bruh valve is arrogant.
@strikefreedom2846
Жыл бұрын
@@legitfake4786 valve dpes have indian servers? They even have dubai servers lol
The 1v4 clutch final shot is probably due to spectator tick rate. Any remotely quick flick looks like that when spectating. How you tell its legit is the overtravel. After the shot u can see his crosshair followthrough the swing and swings back to centre. Its quite fluid and normal.
@dylanbishop4175
Жыл бұрын
People also forget nearly all CSGO pros play on Stretched rez which quite literally makes the players and their hit boxes twice the size, so whilst he may not have been there on a non stretched rez monitor he most likely would be in stretched.. CSGO is skunked for Stretched rez, it literally gives you 2 free rankups
@Mixu.
Жыл бұрын
@@dylanbishop4175 that's... not how that works. The hitboxes are always the same size, and in terms of spectators seeing what the players see, both see the crosshair be either on target or off target always in the same way. Stretched simply makes the picture on your screen... stretched. It changes nothing in the engine of the game or the server.
@dylanbishop4175
Жыл бұрын
@@Mixu. that's quite literally how it works. If you play CS on 16:9 the players are thinner, on 4:3 the players are quite literally stretched and they're larger, if you haven't played CSGO on stretched then don't comment. And if you have, then you're obviously dumb. Especially considering there's KZread videos about people using stretch rez for specifically that reason. It's also why stretch is less common on Valorant, because it doesn't do anything on Valo, but the CS game engine changes with different rez
@Mixu.
Жыл бұрын
@@dylanbishop4175 most top players play stretched in Valorant Rainbow six siege and many other games for prefernce reasons-, because it zooms in the view a bit-, and because there's less things on screen to be distracted by (the sides get cut off). Go in game, aim at the edge of a character, change resolution and be amazed. Or just stay ignorant, won't change my life.
@arty6287
Жыл бұрын
@@dylanbishop4175 No, the players are stretched on your monitor, there’s a difference between client-side and serverside. So while the players are stretched on a 4:3 res on your client, in actuality from the perspective of the server they have the same hitbox.
m0NESY is without a doubt one of the most naturally gifted players I've ever seen. His movement, awareness, and reaction time puts him in a different league, and I always find it funny when people accuse him of cheating. He has over 17k hours played.. more than some pros who have been playing competitively for over 10 years. The kid puts in so much work, and it's pretty cool to see him shining with a S-tier team. He's going to be the next s1mple.
@Cr4zy4pple
Жыл бұрын
b-b-but simple was banned before on alt account and has a billion suspicious clips lol
@Vinicantstopcrying
Жыл бұрын
@@Cr4zy4pple Anyone can be banned in alter ACC. I once downloaded cheat to test how it looks just to test so I wouldn't accuse everyone of a cheater in my main account..... Testing cheats in alter ACC made me understand who are real cheater or just ( good player/smurf) accurately.....I deleted the account after playing 10 competitive games and it got a game ban later.
@Cr4zy4pple
Жыл бұрын
@@Vinicantstopcrying and that's fine cus u aren't deceiving your audience. He hides cheats for a living, pathetic
@akeeMM
Жыл бұрын
@@Vinicantstopcrying It was ESIC.
@Satanascs
Жыл бұрын
yeah i think monesy is just good
This was honestly a skyscraper jump up from your previous content. Good to see the improvements
@icedstev0433
Жыл бұрын
Ear dirt
@0luc83
8 ай бұрын
ear@@icedstev0433
Wow, someone discussing cheating without accusing everyone possible and without using made up terms, like a breath of fresh air! Good stuff, although I'm sad you didn't include KQLY, I think if you exclude recency bias he's much better known than forsaken.
@LE0619
Жыл бұрын
except those "terms" arent made up, ur just not smart enough to understand.
@cradleofgoth
Жыл бұрын
@@LE0619 technically every single term is made up
@LE0619
Жыл бұрын
@@cradleofgoth yea no ur wrong, u dont know what ur talking about
@kamay7021
Жыл бұрын
Why would he bring up KQLY? KQLY is known for cheating already
@cradleofgoth
Жыл бұрын
@Kamay because if you want to prove others are cheating without anticheat software, you need to look for clues in people who you know were cheating.
Kind of weird for a CS:GO cheater to comment on genuinely a good players skill level. If you're cheating in CS, you're terrible at the game, so it's obvious that when legit players do stuff you need hacks for, you'll think they're also cheating.
@Tuho420
Ай бұрын
thats not true 😂
@p0sitv3s27
Ай бұрын
@@Tuho420 It absolutely is. If I can play completely legit at a level that you need cheats to play at, you're going to hackusate me because I'm doing what you can only do while cheating. This is mainly directed towards closet cheaters, aka "legit cheaters" - the ones who try to play it off like they're not cheating.
@Tuho420
Ай бұрын
@@p0sitv3s27 bro... im silver without cheats and i know how it looks to play insanely good and 95% of legit cheaters are obivious but its idea is to not get overwatch banned
@p0sitv3s27
Ай бұрын
@@Tuho420 You're.. THE LOWEST RANK without cheats and you know how it looks to play insanely good??????? No, no you do not.
it's always been insane and hilarious to me how everyone in the region already knew forsaken was a cheater and his understanding of the game was leagues worse than any of the other players in the Indian competitive scene and Optic still decided to pick him up.
@TheSuperappelflap
11 ай бұрын
as if orgs give a shit whether their players are cheating
@mkzhero
8 ай бұрын
Nah. People just overlook it completely all the time in the pro scene, usually it's only when stuff gets too blatant too often that anyone reacts at all. Forsaken was cheating for like TWO HOURS with some very blatant moments, but they allowed him to keep playing and there was no vac detection either, so both the anti cheat and spectators missed or ignored it it entirely.
Looking forward for part 2. Great job keep up the good work!
Love the editing and Documentary-esc style of the video. Would love to see more like this
@NoHyper
Жыл бұрын
thanks, I think I will do videos like this every so often
There was also no delay in streaming the matches to the public, so Akuma could have been using that too, plus I don’t think they recorded players in game info so it’s hard to know what everyone was doing.
I really enjoyed this video, very nicely explained, nicely edited, a lot of information, especially for leaf mouse jump on overpass thing that you did, you explained step by step what could have been leaf's logic and why he played like this, liked this vid, hopefully we will see more, and some more info about Akuma matches, the tournament had no anti-cheat which you mentioned, but you didn't mention that the GOTV had no delay, so people would probably ghost another team, and a lot of people accused Akuma players to use a radar hack, but most likely they were ghosting due to GOTV having no delay, but still a very nice video, keep up the good work man :D
@NoHyper
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Casp3r, didn't even realize that they didn't have a GOTV delay, knowing that it's very possible that they may have had something overlaid on their screens.
Imo the most insane thing about akuma drama was gambit destroying blantant cheaters in an unfair fight. It just shows how ridiculously good they were during the online era
@NoHyper
Жыл бұрын
they might've switch on and off, no clue obviously but it would be impressive if they were still cheating and gambit smashed them
Very nice video mr nohyper. I will honestly wait for part 2 because I didn't know about some of the pro players scandals that you told about in this vid.
@NoHyper
Жыл бұрын
thank you aarinin, part 2 will come out at some point. might make it a series
Cheating as a pro is so messed up
@monliz9964
Жыл бұрын
Pov: Controller players in fortnite 😵😵😵
@freerobuxgotomychannel7179
Жыл бұрын
@@monliz9964 pov: pc players against console
@monliz9964
Жыл бұрын
@@freerobuxgotomychannel7179 pov: most of pro players that use controllers are using zen 😲😳
Well edited but I think it would be more interesting to investigate cases like JW admitting to pasha that his team was cheating and a lot of the other 2012-2013 cheating/throwing cases and those where it's possible people could have cheated on LAN. Also the smoke bug where you can see someone through it is caused by a nade going off in the smoke
@briankim7442
Жыл бұрын
wait what?? JW admitted cheating? I cant believe so... JW is still playing now a days. no one would allow a confessed cheater to keep playing
@purplepew3247
Жыл бұрын
@@briankim7442 his team*
@sharktheprez
Жыл бұрын
Gonna need a link or source for that JW thing. Wtf?
@erty2389
Жыл бұрын
That didnt happen
@Psycho345
Жыл бұрын
@@sharktheprez kzread.info/dash/bejne/hmdrm8V_adzblJs.html
very well made video man, i really like this editing style so keep it up. i would like a series about this cus this is a definetly interesting category of cs:go
@NoHyper
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Zenchanted, appreciate that
It always baffles me how Forsaken got so far without anyone noticing the lack of skill
@thatcooldudeisawesome876
Жыл бұрын
He was still an extremely skilled player just with cheats ontop
@AkshatSTR8EDGE
Жыл бұрын
@@thatcooldudeisawesome876 extremely skilled player? No he wasnt. His awareness and aim sucked man 💀
@mikehunt7410
Жыл бұрын
@@thatcooldudeisawesome876 He was cheating in pugs and qualifiers. He's a bucket of feces.
Great video, only thing that I noticed was leafs "monster flick" the reason I think it was so fast was he was crouched for the spam and uncrouched when he adjusted his xhair up after spraying so it just looked like a big adjustment for only a minute adjustment
@TheSuperappelflap
11 ай бұрын
i have flicked further than that in 1 tick, it can cause some funny looking issues with gotv demos
really good video did not expect such a high quality video from you definitely make a part 2 would watch it 100%
@NoHyper
Жыл бұрын
Thank you narcian
@ZumbieRUST
Жыл бұрын
@@NoHyper [he is implying your videos arent high quality] (144p gang)
Nohyper: is / was flusha cheating Nohyper : shows not even one sus flusha clip
Very good video my man! I watched through it all😊 I can’t wait to see how much the future will bring to this channel :D subscribed :)
editing is great in this video, i’d love to see more content like this, keep up the great work man!
@NoHyper
Жыл бұрын
thanks qubicall
For the case of flusha just look at all the times he messed up, when you play on the biggest stage for that long ofc you gonna hit and do insane stuff
@Cornell90
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the laugh. Keep being ignorant
@dabunnykilla2
Жыл бұрын
Nah, the clear case for me that he was cheating was on mirage where he shot through the wall with no indication a player was there
@oat1000
Жыл бұрын
@@dabunnykilla2 it's a common spot, and flusha knew where he was. Not too crazy for him to take a couple pot shots to try and get a lucky kill
@Nooraksi
Жыл бұрын
@@dabunnykilla2 biggest indication here is that you are a silver bot!!!
@kurtpunchesthings2411
Жыл бұрын
As I always say about Flusha If he was cheating he was smart and got out early before he could get caught
I have never liked cheating in games and I dislike the people that do but I respect you for your entertaining videos and how you teach people about the cheats and provide good insight into how they work. I would love to see more of these videos
@chronickush420
Жыл бұрын
Biggest npc comment
@gusfalk
Жыл бұрын
@@chronickush420 ye
@doktormozg
Жыл бұрын
@@chronickush420 sit
@chronickush420
Жыл бұрын
@@doktormozg this keyboard playing cheating crackhead tryna tell me what to do😂
@chronickush420
Жыл бұрын
@@doktormozg lay down the pipe bro😂🤣
amazing video, keep doing these on csgo or other games, very good break downs and research.
Great video, would love to see more in this style.
very nice video, love the work and the change in content, keep it up and we'd love to see more videos like this!
would like a 2nd part, also great video!
@NoHyper
Жыл бұрын
yeah I'm probably going to make one, it just takes so long to make videos like this
I love these types of videos, I would like to see more of this in the future. earned a sub :)
Love that youre trying something new and higher quality
Super interesting perspective we don't get to hear from often. Thanks for sharing your insights!
This video is very well made! Very enjoyable to watch!
@NoHyper
Жыл бұрын
thank you Megu
Love your editing and production on this video it’s so smooth and easy to watch, super well done
@NoHyper
Жыл бұрын
Thanks man :)
This is like one of my favorite videos on youtube. Great job!
Great Video NoHyper Keep Up the work king!
@NoHyper
Жыл бұрын
thanks snows
@uatmovius
3 ай бұрын
😂
What is actually bothering me is how cheating is even possible in a tournament. Just import your CS go settings on a competition PC on which the players can't add anything like a certain program called word.exe, they can choose the mouse etc. I don't see the problem with that. That way you can be sure no one is cheating.
@NoHyper
Жыл бұрын
Well there are DMA cheats, basically hardware cheats that are installed into a mouse or something like that. Letting them have any control would mean letting them have an avenue to cheat.
The "tracking players in smokes" - thing is a quite common occurrence I have to say. It happened to me and my team. In 99% of the cases it's due to the smoke bug.
this video was so soothing im ngl, im super high and ur voice is so soothing, and it feels like a horror story in the tone of ur voice. and csgo cheating is stuff ive been on and covered so i was also so interested.
I was very upset with the Leaf situation. I understand that some of the clips looked suspicious but a lot of MIBR fans were sending death threats to all of the members of Chaos. Which was obviously a horrible reaction especially considering there were only accusations, nothing was ever proven.
@Yamatsu7
Жыл бұрын
Chaos team was so good that after rising up like crazy they all left csgo 1 year after. Clearly cheats.
@ens8361
Жыл бұрын
@@Yamatsu7 yeah but 3/5 of the team including leaf is now in tier one valorant, NA cs was dying at the time and it was common place for many players to switch over due to the uncertainty of the online era. Hella players left, Stewie, Ethan, and Jamppi. Are they cheaters? No, you’re arguement is terrible
@timeoutguy
Жыл бұрын
@@ens8361 Something that makes Chaos players more suspicious is the fact that a few minutes before the match, the odds for Chaos to win in bets dropped a lot, that is, a large amount of money was bet on them. In the game against Team One, there are also several clips that prove that they are cheaters
@coolissimo69
Жыл бұрын
Chaos were cheating
@coolissimo69
Жыл бұрын
@@timeoutguy ofc ,they were cheating. Not only with MIBR also against other Brazilian teams with more obvious locks by xeepaa and leanf especially at train map.
Flusha was undoubtedly cheating for a period of time. Obviously he stopped after everyone kept calling him out.
@DaddyDagoth
Жыл бұрын
100%. Most players from 2013-2016 were cheating and blatently so.
@MrFlejon
Жыл бұрын
It's funny how back then, people laughed at you when you said he was cheating. "They're just that good". There are so many example of people using aimlock as wallhacks, because obviously you couldn't wallhack on lan because there was always someone looking at your screen. A lot of the insane flusha clips, you can definitely see a pattern: his crosshair first moves towards the enemy, he goes back to where he was looking, and then magically he kills someone through a smoke or a wall. I believe it is because he toggled for a split second to make sure an enemy is near, then toggles again to get a quick kill. Sometimes unfortunately for him, even though he toggled real quick, his opponent was close enough to magically and coincidently for his crosshair to be right on him through the wall. When you check for an angle, especially if you know someone is coming, you don't randomly move your crosshair in his direction, through a wall. It was blatant cheating. Shox did the same thing. They had the best "game sense" yet the are irrelevant now, when people like simple or Niko are still here and kicking ass, and we've never saw them do sketchy shit like this. Almost like all the sus players where actually cheating and had to stop because they got constantly accused
@CJBeamedYou
Жыл бұрын
suprised how most youtube videos never use the blatent clips flusha has. Some of his cache clips are insane and make 0 sense
@MrFlejon
Жыл бұрын
@@CJBeamedYou there's a video called proverwatch #2 that goes over one of the cache clips. It's in my eyes an undeniable evidence he was cheating. It's made by a German hacker and it's really well made
@ericcotter1984
Жыл бұрын
@@DaddyDagoth evidence?
Actually really interesting! Been here since 1k, man! Content still good as ever!
you can remodify your ingame files for the radar actually to not only show cts on radar all time, but also enemy team aswell. Basically knowing the position of the enemy all times. This is still a thing some people use for Counter strike Source but I do not know if it is a thing for CSGO.
This is interesting to watch, i know your a cheater but damn this is one hell of a Documentary style type of video. would like to see more and see your opinions on pros. (Story for short) i dont wanna be a guy that hates cheaters when i used to become a cheater once, only to be curious about tho since i did become one of the best OFW and CFW modding in the PS3 modding community, all i ever did is to enjoy the fun stuff and play games seriously then mod for experience or just being nosey if that makes sense, ever since i switched from console to PC was a new learning path for me, tho back then when i used to dislike modding alot more than it should've been. i find out about CSGO cheats and HvH's n stuff like that, tho i wasn't that interested but i also could learn a thing too, so i did what i did and cheat on it, honestly changed my mind a little bit more. tho its boring to cheat nowadays and cheating / modding. i kinda wanna bring entertainment at its finest. I'll always be a cheater but i generally dont wanna touch them anymore and become a pro player or just an entertainer for streaming or videos itself. also again, this video do change my views on other ppl but i quite enjoy this style Documentary.
As someone with over 200 hours on csgo and a $20 dollar headset from wish I can confirm that anyone who has killed me was cheating.
@Rpgreat
Жыл бұрын
15k hours and alot of play with and against the best players ever before everyone could cheat here. I also know programmers that has worked on big cheats and all pros 100% cheat in every round for 6-7 years at least. Most of them for more than that :) And that is a fact.
@BobBobson-gv3ol
Жыл бұрын
@@Rpgreat 15k hours and you still think everyone is a cheater. That is real sad bro. Like hall of fame sad.
@Rpgreat
Жыл бұрын
@@BobBobson-gv3ol I literally know coders of one of the most popular cheats. Not one pro is clean in any game for many years. But WP being so unintelligent and extremely bad at the game that you can't understand that people are cheating when their aim goes crazy and locks on to 10 heads through the walls every game XD
@BobBobson-gv3ol
Жыл бұрын
@@Rpgreat don’t change your story legend. “All pros 100% cheat.” I don’t think it’s me who’s bad at the game. 15k hours and everyone’s locking onto heads. Man what were you doing for 15k hours playing casual hostage or something 😂😂
@Rpgreat
Жыл бұрын
@@BobBobson-gv3ol Changed NOTHING in my story and you are an idiot. It's like I'm telling you wrestling is rigged and you trying to say I'm bad at wrestling XD WTF
At the Akuma vs 1Win Match the first clip is easily explainable since the bomb sends out waves on the radar when dropped and seen by a CT. As soon as someone picks up the Bomb the waves disappear leading him in knowing when they pick up the bomb and the position of one person.
@NoHyper
Жыл бұрын
Yes but it doesn't show those waves for that long.
@HerzogMiku
Жыл бұрын
@@NoHyper It does. You can see the bomb on the radar for 8 seconds and he killed the bomb carrier at 1:08 and looks at the radar last time at 1:01 so he could still see the waves clearly :)
I love these videos! I would love it if you could make more of these commentary videos! Literally the best KZread videos that I know of. Maybe you could make a CSGO cheats evolution like Golden did, however since you're a cheater yourself I think it would make it 200% more interesting ♥️
monesy is honestly just to good, we've all been there, when you're in flowstate mode and absolutely wrecking people, i think that thats what happened in that clip, i also think he flicks so insanely fast, you dont always see it as a spectator
@christianb7125
Жыл бұрын
Yeah that guy is legit I’ve been watching him for a while and he is just naturally nasty
The m0nesy clip doesnt come from "backtracking" its simply the ping diff from the server to the spectator or tick output diff which is usually 128-64 on official tournaments. Additionally the bullet in cs doesnt necessearily land where the crosshair is when flicking very fast, but instead where the crosshair "wouldve" ended up as the unscoping of the awp happens a few ticks earlier than the shot. this can be seen in a lot of awp clips from pros or fast casual awpers alike. anyway great video!
@TheSuperappelflap
11 ай бұрын
1. the unscoping doesnt happen before the shot, it happens on the same tick as the shot. the bullet then has an animation of a couple frames but this is irrelevant to when or where the shot hits. if there is any delay in the awp unscoping and when the shot actually hits this is just ping and nothing else. unless you are playing with multithreaded rendering on, which will render interpolated frames in which your input isnt processed. this setting is useless, it only adds input lag, makes your input lag more variable, and increases your pc's power consumption by rendering interpolated frames that dont do anything. no one should play with this setting on, no matter how bad your pc is. 2. the bullet isnt fired at where the crosshair would have ended up, it in fact fires at the spot where your crosshair was at the START of the current game tick. where you move your crosshair during the tick is irrelevant. the position is only updated at the start of the next game tick. this is how source engine works. this is also one of the main reasons why csgo, and source engine games in general, have bad hitreg and feel delayed. other shooters such as reflex, quake, unreal, or anything based on quake or unreal engines, dont have this problem, they actually keep track of how far you move your crosshair during a tick before you press M1.
@zwenkwiel816
11 ай бұрын
yeah the whole play looked legit, some lucky shots for sure but definitely legit.
I know I'm 9 months late, but I just want to appreciate how good it is to see this perspective from a cheater, this video made me question my hate for CHAOS in 2020, I was young and very biased as a MIBR fan, and never saw how dumb Xeppaa's "wall tracking" actually was, and all the leaf's clips too.. Good work!! You should make a video on Brazil's most controversial player, aspas, that was banned in competitive CSGO here, and then moved to valorant, there he is the best BR player of the game to this day, but still is accused of being an ex-CSGO cheater.
I’m absolutely loving this style of video form you please do more
@NoHyper
Жыл бұрын
ty man, I probably will do more
theres only one pro ive ever suspected and it was flusha. his clip on cache where he just randomly flicks through the wall onto a player from the ct entrance of tree room through b main is something i cant explain. im sad you didnt go over that and similar clips from flusha during that one event.
so proud of you brother
@SwankiestFaun60
Жыл бұрын
SHUT UP
@NoHyper
Жыл бұрын
ty man
The levelheaded approach to figuring out cheaters is really nice to see. People react so passionately and call everything they don’t understand cheating but in a lot of cases, with the proper context, things aren’t suspicious at all. There is definitely a cheating problem in a lot of these games but screaming cheater at every clip isn’t going to fix that issue.
@Cornell90
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the laugh monkey.
I have a lot of hours in fps, and everyone does things that look like they are cheating occasionally at a high level. It’s consistency or blatant signs that really prove it.
For the monesy clip you we're suspicious about: if you flick hard enough with the AWP it looks like you shot where the enemy is not anymore at, where in reality, you did shoot at the target.
@Skillertvv_
Жыл бұрын
Awesome video tho. don't take this as hate :)
@NoHyper
Жыл бұрын
The frame after the shot wasn’t on his either. Obviously there are a ton of different factors, online I think it the easiest to debunk the clip.
chaos were 100% cheating
Fantastic video, would love a part 2
You have really good content creation skills, not even joking if you made more videos similar to this your channel could be huge
As a former LoL cheat platform/script developer I also find it so easy to recognize cheats in league of legends, I have never really got into CSGO or it's pro scene but I do enjoy the perspective you give.
@cambuurleeuwarden
Жыл бұрын
Former? What made you stop? Also what kind of income did that generate?
@YehNahYehAyy
Жыл бұрын
@@cambuurleeuwarden I stopped because I lost interest when riot was really clamping down with their anti-cheat (They seem to not care again and scripting is growing once again) I don't remember exactly how much I would make but it was around 1.5 to 2k a week on average a few seasons back.
@cambuurleeuwarden
Жыл бұрын
@@YehNahYehAyy Thanks for replying mate. But I've got to say, with that kinda money i'd be pulling scripts out of my ass left and right if I knew how to do it.
@trashaccount5106
8 ай бұрын
@@cambuurleeuwardenI assume you'd have to register a business to legally make all this money, but then it'd be illegal because your business is profiting off of someone else's product and actively losing them players.
Sadly I don’t believe there is a way to test true skill in gaming anymore. Unless there was a LAN league that pre bought hardware for all contestants before hand, but that will never happen.
It's also worth noting that Forsaken was busted using EzFrags, so it's pretty clear he had no idea what he was doing.
One of the most enjoyable videos I've watched in a long while, good work
I believe the corruption runs very deep and that the whole cs go pro scene is a joke. i have seen both flusha and m0nesy track and flick to moving targets behind smoke/walls in unortodox/unpredictable positions and still hit more than a few times now for example. Also infolocks through walls seems to be very common amongst many pros.
A part 2 of Chaos' cheating stuff would be more than welcome There's a clip where someone from Chaos tries to wallbang a mibr player throught that "wooden thing" on B site, but the angle he tried isn't "wallbangable"
@NoHyper
Жыл бұрын
B site on which map? Plus in a high intensity situation, are brains can just do things we normally wouldn’t. I’d have to see the clip to give my opinion
@ShaunaJagan
Жыл бұрын
@@NoHyper On Overpass. The only place I could find the clip is in this Brazilian Edit inspired by SuperstituM kzread.info/dash/bejne/hop9laaGh9ubitI.html (already with timestemp in the link) Also, there's a guy trying to replicate the wallbang after, he's a Brazilian Caster who find it sus while casting and went in game to checks it
@NoHyper
Жыл бұрын
@@ShaunaJagan It is weird but you also have to consider that he was just trying to shoot someone into the cubby and the guy in front of his crosshair and just there by chance.
@ShaunaJagan
Жыл бұрын
@@NoHyper ye that what I thought, well.. These guy are in Valorant now, right? For me its proves that they didn't cheat, but a video of the topic (or a part 2 of this one) would be welcome for sure :DD
@bruno7912
Жыл бұрын
@@ShaunaJagan Go to 02:00 of the video you send and tell me again this guys ain't cheating lol
I'm by no means a pro, but started out my online FPS life as a 10 year old putting many hours into Quake 1 / Quake World Team Fortress on Dialup. Moved on to early beta versions of counterstrike and then many hours in 1.6 & Source including online tournaments, and also putting in many hours into Battlefield 3 & 4. Even then, in my 26 years of casual gaming I would have clocked in 10 - 15 hours per week = call it 15,000 hours in my life. You completely zone out, not only does aiming become instinctual (split second flick shots quicker than you even realize it's happened) but also reading the game by combining radar and multiple sound sources, a high level of game sense. Yet this Monesy fella for example has 16,000 just in one game, and he's only 18. That amount of hours at such a young age where the brain is going through advanced cognitive development, no wonder he's owning.
There has been a ton of cheating on a pro level. BYOC has always been problematic (there was even a hardware cheat soldered to a ddr2 memory module in the CS Source days). Then when they went to provided pcs we had the workshop cheats, the rubber ducky USB exploits (in mice and keyboards). Tons of amphetamine (adderall) use. Now we have coaching bug / other exploits and match fixing. The community is just toxic and it goes all the way to the top. We should have a zero tolerance policy for cheating but instead you find f**king cheaters in ever 3rd-5th match.
what music did you use for the back half of the Akuma analysis????
I heard that, after a long period of time, VAC bans are hidden from the public profile, but are still active, and prevent to play on VAC-secured servers.
Love this type of video and that intro was really sweet 💯
@NoHyper
Жыл бұрын
ty chaos
That was dope as hell, I watched the whole thing start to finish. Nice work.
Keep it up man! I would like to see more video like this!
@NoHyper
Жыл бұрын
More will come
i don’t know about the checking radar thing since i look at the radar way too often too, no matter what i’m clearing. but it does look kinda sus
something to note. ive had multiple Deathadders do the jumping crosshair thing so theres also that to consider.
I do wonder how thorough the hardware checks can be. In the world of normal sports steroids and PEDs are commonly checked for but the tests are easily bypassed .
Great video. Would love to see part 2
@NoHyper
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I'll probably make a part 2 in the future, they just take a long time to make
Looks like you found the perfect style of content, no skeet invite needed.
Great video! the music, narration, research are spot on. Subbed!
@NoHyper
Жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@Han-D4ror2
Жыл бұрын
hes a fucking hacker in csgo unsub. 🙂
Make more "A Cheaters Perspective" this is very good to listen because of your voice!
The monesy clip can happen for so many reasons, tick rate, refresh rate, bad demo, etc it’s so unlikely to be the backtrack
i don't think the backtrack looking thing has much to do with the ping, but more with the crosshair being so out of sync with what the actual player sees. I've seen hundreds of shots that weren't on the enemy in demos because they were just flicked edit: the only time i really think of backtrack sometimes is when i go behind a wall and die by getting teleported outside again, which happens quite frequently, that's an example of the ping
Does anyone know what the plugin he is using to see the information about the profile? It can be seen at 17:27 in the video.
It should be possible to calculate or analyse a "normal" probability for how often the crosshair lands on, or close, to an enemy that is not visible. One should take into account common places where the enemy sits or comes from etc.
@TheSuperappelflap
11 ай бұрын
yes you can do statistical analysis with heatmaps but it would be much easier to just get a bunch of demos with and without confirmed cheaters in them and then train an AI to recognize illegitimate crosshair movements with that data.
The look on Marzil's face when forsaken gets caught
i also like how when akuma faced off with Navi in a tournament with anti cheat, they lost
First video of yours I’ve seen and it was fantastic I loved every second of it
The thing is it wasn't long ago that like FaZe and Optic etc would have videos playing in modded lobbies etc for content.
@NoHyper
Жыл бұрын
Doesn’t mean that it would go into the professional play. Plus I feel like modded lobbies are one of those types of cheating that’s acceptable. Similar to people that make videos on 2B2T, the anarchy Minecraft server.
Alot of this can just be put down to pre aiming and muscle memory you play the game enough you can almost imagine where the players could be
Yet another great video! I'm sure G-Dawg thinks otherwise, hes the one that reacted "do" on that stream message
@NoHyper
Жыл бұрын
what
The fact that Forsaken was caught cheating, and some other pro's aim acts in the exact same unhuman manner, surely gives concrete grounds for accusations? The aimlocking, bugged aiming behind walls, etc... Flusha, Shox, Byali, basically the entire Fnatic team at one point. Notice how certain teams also used to aim normally, and suddenly individual "key" players magically start following the same odd aimlocking patterns? It's so obvious.
@NoHyper
Жыл бұрын
I dont think I’ve even seen a clip that was as lockey as forsakens was
regarding flusha, is there a cheat that makes running/jumping shots more likely to hit?
@NoHyper
Жыл бұрын
For the running shots, there is a cheat that can counter strafe for you, but the spread is not something you can get around anymore. Regarding the jumping shots, with some weapons there are ways to hit jumping shots with better accuracy, but not perfect. Usually you’d be looking at SMGs and a Scout for that type of stuff, not rifles.
watched the whole thing, great job man!
@NoHyper
Жыл бұрын
thanks sm0oth
What do you think of flusha shot vs seized? Locking through 2 walls?
I really like this video i hope u dont cheat in the future, this kind of content is good, nice investigation
dude I need help what is the best site to buy accounts and stuff I wanted to sell my acc on g2g but my moms info did not work where else can I try
Song in the intro is BiGSaM - معي i have no idea how to type the shit i had to copy paste 😂
when you realize in every shooter if you flick fast enough and if you click early enough before your crosshair is on a guy the same thing that happened for monesy can happen to anyone
This is interesting, as for your flusha review. I too do not think he's cheating. I remember seeing a clip from an interview where he stated something along the lines of "... I've been playing this game for so long you kind of just know, what your opponents are going to do." Now, I'm no professional, but playing since CS as a kid till now. I find I also shoot randomly, stare at walls waiting for any info. crazy
@Rpgreat
Жыл бұрын
He is literally doing things that only cheaters do, because of the cheat they are using. Are you saying you believe he uses cheats but is not cheating? XDDDDD
okay, im trying to make it short, and hopefully people dont misunderstand. im a very dedicated player in cs since around 2004. started with pub and clan wars in 1.6, but in csgo i never went the team route. tried to make friends along the way, who understand the emphasis of my calling style. in general you can say that many highlights you see in the tournaments, ofc not on this lvl, but every player who plays for a decade or a little less had these kinda shots before. the classic "hiko, are you kidding me" 180 is something ive done probably 3-4 times in my whole cs life. now im at around 8600 hours, and when i watch old fragmovies from 1.6 now i can understand the full aspect of what these guys did back then. im really happy we have people like monesy, im always crossing my fingers watching his games. it gives a new hope, and fresh wind into the scene, despite the stale mappool we have for a long time now. rotating the maps is something i wish for for years. the thing is this is all built on trust, and we have to keep it. we have to hope for the competitive spirit these players have, cause there are ways to cheat in 2022 from home, where you cant even detect it. so its really almost all up to the players themselves.