The Esoteric Order of Gamers

The Esoteric Order of Gamers

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  • @zoltanbukta5985
    @zoltanbukta5985Күн бұрын

    Good job! More Mantic videos pls... ;)

  • @lordcypher7922
    @lordcypher79222 күн бұрын

    I have the Mars set a great ship and set to start an Italian fleet or even Alliance

  • @EsotericOrderGamers
    @EsotericOrderGamersКүн бұрын

    I believe I covered the Mars fleet a while back. Nice!

  • @_The_Rake
    @_The_Rake2 күн бұрын

    I would love to see a Battle Report for this game!

  • @EsotericOrderGamers
    @EsotericOrderGamersКүн бұрын

    Not something I plan to do I'm sorry.

  • @tomfreeman8401
    @tomfreeman84012 күн бұрын

    I enjoyed this vid so much I keep checking back for more Firefight or Deadzone battle reports on EOG. Both such great rules systems and I love both your enthusiasm for the quick-paced rules from Mantic.

  • @EsotericOrderGamers
    @EsotericOrderGamers2 күн бұрын

    Well I'll try to do some more in future. In the meantime, there's a lot of other stuff to enjoy!

  • @KyleSmith-de8sz
    @KyleSmith-de8sz3 күн бұрын

    Great stuff! Thanks for this.

  • @EsotericOrderGamers
    @EsotericOrderGamers3 күн бұрын

    You're welcome, cheers.

  • @kane2239
    @kane22395 күн бұрын

    This is my favourite show of all time, so I probably need to get myself a copy of the game. Thanks for the review!

  • @EsotericOrderGamers
    @EsotericOrderGamers5 күн бұрын

    Sounds like you do!

  • @dungeondan7119
    @dungeondan71195 күн бұрын

    Thanks for the video 👍 I absolutely love the show so looking forward to playing this! Do you know when it will be released in the uk?

  • @EsotericOrderGamers
    @EsotericOrderGamers5 күн бұрын

    No, perhaps contact the publisher Gamelyn Games?

  • @tiredguy2753
    @tiredguy27536 күн бұрын

    Hmm I wonder wil we be seeing the new Necromunda box on this channel ?

  • @EsotericOrderGamers
    @EsotericOrderGamers5 күн бұрын

    Gee, I wonder?

  • @oneofmanyAndyRobertsons
    @oneofmanyAndyRobertsons4 күн бұрын

    After playing Skaventide I'm left wondering why there are no Skaven in Necromunda?? The rats need to be in *everything*!

  • @EsotericOrderGamers
    @EsotericOrderGamers4 күн бұрын

    @@oneofmanyAndyRobertsons Well, there are no skaven in the WH40K universe - not yet, anyway...

  • @richm6400
    @richm64006 күн бұрын

    I think I am with you on the board it does not look good and so far has put me off from buying it, but your review about the game play may make me think again. Thanks for doing such a great review

  • @EsotericOrderGamers
    @EsotericOrderGamers6 күн бұрын

    It's such a shame, but otherwise the game is definitely worth having.

  • @Vardakula
    @Vardakula6 күн бұрын

    Cant get this nowhere in Europe...

  • @eriklindqvist9923
    @eriklindqvist99236 күн бұрын

    Wayland Games in UK has 3 copies atm. Found by board game price finder webpage. But other than that it looks hard.

  • @Archon762
    @Archon7626 күн бұрын

    I picked up the Ruined Realmshaper standalone, but it's lacking instructions. Everything seems simple to assemble but how does the gem stay in place in the bowl?

  • @EsotericOrderGamers
    @EsotericOrderGamers6 күн бұрын

    I believe it connects to the 4 struts in the bowl - or it can just sit in there.

  • @imacie
    @imacie8 күн бұрын

    You are so right in all your criticism, it's infuriating how much we are being taken advantage of as fans of this IP

  • @user-ho1fg8xm3i
    @user-ho1fg8xm3i8 күн бұрын

    Like French in this game, as per real life, quirky and different.

  • @EsotericOrderGamers
    @EsotericOrderGamers8 күн бұрын

    Really, all 65 million of them? 🤣

  • @scottmills4164
    @scottmills41649 күн бұрын

    Everyone take a shot every time the Skaven player rolled for saves he shouldn't have. You will not make it to the end.

  • @oneofmanyAndyRobertsons
    @oneofmanyAndyRobertsons9 күн бұрын

    Uhhhh, oops? 😬😅 As usual, my first time playing a new system means I have practically *zero* idea what I'm doing! Peter is the rules machine, I'm just the enthusiastic, sneaky-BS guy 😁😎

  • @EsotericOrderGamers
    @EsotericOrderGamers9 күн бұрын

    Can you give me an example? I missed the errors, but then I'm keeping track of everything, and filming, in this first game. If you can be more specific I'll tr6 not to mke the same errors next time - in any case, we both had a good time and we all make mistkes now and then. No real humans or rats were harmed.

  • @scottmills4164
    @scottmills41648 күн бұрын

    @@EsotericOrderGamers so to be honest I was fast forwarding through the game as I was laying in bed. But I can give two examples I remember. There were attacks on the grey seer from Prosecutors, -1 rend. He has a 6+ save, so I need 6's. There was also a rend 2 on rat ogres, same scenario. All good, glad you guys enjoyed. I have played a few, finding Stormcast to be way stronger than Skaven. Not even close really. You can still score with Skaven, but they don't have the punching power.

  • @EsotericOrderGamers
    @EsotericOrderGamers8 күн бұрын

    Don't know about you but two or three drinks is just getting started in my book 🤣 Anyway, first game, there was always going to be some errors. Skaven have the numbers, so I guess the strategy is either to try to avoid the Stormcast attacks as much as possible, or overwhelm targets. More games required to find out!

  • @EsotericOrderGamers
    @EsotericOrderGamers8 күн бұрын

    Oh, I think we assumed that if you have a 6+ save you always save on a 6 despite the modifiers, but perhaps you don't? Can't find it clarified in the rules.

  • @julianhirst1886
    @julianhirst18869 күн бұрын

    Hi there. great review! What do you think of the game a year and a half later? Did it fulfil its early promise?

  • @EsotericOrderGamers
    @EsotericOrderGamers9 күн бұрын

    Yes, I still play and enjoy it. For me it's the best of the Garphill Games I've played, because it has a strong theme, strong player interaction, and well-define goals beyond victory point collection.

  • @mechaman88
    @mechaman8810 күн бұрын

    Genuinely frustrated I can't see anyone about my place stocking/playing this as the sprues look refreshingly non-frustrating nor the game rules.

  • @EsotericOrderGamers
    @EsotericOrderGamers10 күн бұрын

    Hmm, that's no good! Actually, there's the same problem here in NZ, I'm just lucky to be sent product for review from Warcradle direct. Why not contact them and see if there are any distributors in your area?

  • @commodoreturtle
    @commodoreturtle10 күн бұрын

    Love the aesthetic of the alliance ships, unfortunately I also love the aesthetic of a few other factions a bit more. So it will be a while till I dip my toes into the alliance lol. Love the Dystopian Wars content and can't wait to see more of it, especially if there's more batreps to come

  • @EsotericOrderGamers
    @EsotericOrderGamers10 күн бұрын

    Thanks! Yeah, this faction possibly suffers a bit from the 'cool, but there are so many other cool options' as well syndrome! 🤣

  • @gmradio2436
    @gmradio243610 күн бұрын

    Not a fan of the Alliance. Don't hate them, they just leave no impact. Most of it is probably the design. That or the amount of skimming units at launch.

  • @EsotericOrderGamers
    @EsotericOrderGamers10 күн бұрын

    Skimmers are pretty cool, but it's tough when there are so many distinctive factions to choose from.

  • @MyBrothertheBear
    @MyBrothertheBear11 күн бұрын

    The clarification of not moving during a failed charge is in the glossary under “Charge”

  • @EsotericOrderGamers
    @EsotericOrderGamers11 күн бұрын

    There's another rule of rules writing - don't put crucial clarifications in glossaries...! All they had to do is put that sentence "otherwise unit stays where it is" in the main rules proper.

  • @warkatwargaming2358
    @warkatwargaming235812 күн бұрын

    Very nice sportmanship there letting him.move those little subs back. Played my first game the other day, 1000 pts. Was a great game but took 3 hours lol. Was again the Common weath with that Borrodino. Managed to get damanged generator every turn on it so never got to see that ice blast against me

  • @EsotericOrderGamers
    @EsotericOrderGamers11 күн бұрын

    It can take a while to play! As for sportsmanship, well it's the only way to play isn't it?

  • @Aisaaax
    @Aisaaax12 күн бұрын

    What primer color are you using? 16:20 It seems very slightly off-white. I was myself planning to go grey and zenithal it with ivory and white, for speed paints, but I'm not sure

  • @EsotericOrderGamers
    @EsotericOrderGamers12 күн бұрын

    Must be the lighting - it's just Codex White spray. I don't find zenith painting worth the trouble, it's just covered up by the contrast paints in most cases anyway.

  • @warkatwargaming2358
    @warkatwargaming235812 күн бұрын

    Thank got for this vid. Mine just arrived the other day and have been genuinely apprehensive about this

  • @EsotericOrderGamers
    @EsotericOrderGamers12 күн бұрын

    Don't thank him, thank me, he had nothing to do with it! 🤣

  • @pauls3585
    @pauls358512 күн бұрын

    A fun battle report guys!

  • @EsotericOrderGamers
    @EsotericOrderGamers12 күн бұрын

    Very glad to hear you enjoyed it!

  • @NaClU2dRGL
    @NaClU2dRGL12 күн бұрын

    Actually, guys, to win the game, your opponent has to be 10 points behind “at the end of their turn”, not at the end of your own turn. You can never win just after scoring.

  • @EsotericOrderGamers
    @EsotericOrderGamers12 күн бұрын

    Well that's no fun! You should win on a score, surely! Oh well, rules and all. 🤣

  • @Tombonzo
    @Tombonzo12 күн бұрын

    I would love to see some battle reports on some of these Warbands!!

  • @peterbruckner2620
    @peterbruckner262012 күн бұрын

    Looks awesome! May I ask what color you used for the grey ?

  • @EsotericOrderGamers
    @EsotericOrderGamers12 күн бұрын

    Sorry mate I did this 2 years ago. I can hardly remember what I had for breakfast. 🤣

  • @juvigoat2168
    @juvigoat216812 күн бұрын

    Dont worry. Wisest three words ever.

  • @theramsden8873
    @theramsden887313 күн бұрын

    Have you ever looked into archworlde? That's a very good game and it's an independent creator too, models are sculpted by him

  • @EsotericOrderGamers
    @EsotericOrderGamers12 күн бұрын

    Wow, another impressive tabletop miniatures game! There are just so many these days ... sadly, there are so only many hours available to learn, paint and play ... Looks great, reminds me a bit of Moonstone in that it has a sense of humour.

  • @theramsden8873
    @theramsden887312 күн бұрын

    Aye! It was watching the moonstone video you did that reminded me. Should you find the time, I highly recommend it!

  • @EsotericOrderGamers
    @EsotericOrderGamers12 күн бұрын

    I'll give the rules a look through.

  • @oneofmanyAndyRobertsons
    @oneofmanyAndyRobertsons12 күн бұрын

    ArcWorlde, Twisted and Moonstone have always sat in that fun, 'grimsical' and Hensonian space that I love - wargaming should never take itself *too* seriously I feel!

  • @theramsden8873
    @theramsden887312 күн бұрын

    I 100% agree. The whole point of playing is just for a bit of fun, right!

  • @blkjet117
    @blkjet11713 күн бұрын

    If you fail a charge roll, your unit does not move.

  • @EsotericOrderGamers
    @EsotericOrderGamers13 күн бұрын

    Thanks, I think they really should have clarified this in the rules, but I've got it sorted now!

  • @oneofmanyAndyRobertsons
    @oneofmanyAndyRobertsons13 күн бұрын

    ...but it benefitted me so much to get that extra movement!! 😎🤣

  • @EsotericOrderGamers
    @EsotericOrderGamers13 күн бұрын

    Yeah, lucky I won anyway!

  • @blkjet117
    @blkjet11713 күн бұрын

    They can't get cover because of fly, but aren't they -1 to be hit because of fly?

  • @EsotericOrderGamers
    @EsotericOrderGamers13 күн бұрын

    No, if you have FLY you don't get -1 to hit, for cover or otherwise.

  • @somebradly
    @somebradly13 күн бұрын

    Spectacular. I've tried to watch other videos start to finish but I got bored pretty quickly. You guys got me entretained the entire time. Can't wait to watch another one!

  • @oneofmanyAndyRobertsons
    @oneofmanyAndyRobertsons13 күн бұрын

    Thanks, my man! Peter and I don't get nearly as many games in as we'd like, but when we do we have a blast - full credit to him for all the editing work to keep the fun without the faff (or my endless digressions 😅)

  • @EsotericOrderGamers
    @EsotericOrderGamers13 күн бұрын

    I'm really glad you enjoyed it! With all due modesty I get bored with most batreps too, and what strikes me as far less entertaining ones get tens of thousands of views while mine get very few in comparison ... but that's the usual state of affairs, I'm used to it after 11 years or so!

  • @StabSam
    @StabSam14 күн бұрын

    I thought Blackstone Fortress was really good as a cooperative game- as long as you use the card expansions , which make the game much harder!

  • @EsotericOrderGamers
    @EsotericOrderGamers13 күн бұрын

    What card expansions?

  • @StabSam
    @StabSam13 күн бұрын

    @@EsotericOrderGamers kzread.info/dash/bejne/mIiqtJSMdL2cd9o.html

  • @Oldf0x
    @Oldf0x14 күн бұрын

    Fun game!

  • @GordonMcLachlan
    @GordonMcLachlan14 күн бұрын

    Great game - can't wait to play it myself soon!

  • @ChristopherRidge
    @ChristopherRidge15 күн бұрын

    Was that a Cows With Guns reference at 10:30? 😂 Amazing. Thanks for doing this, guys! I'm really looking forward to 4e AoS.

  • @EsotericOrderGamers
    @EsotericOrderGamers14 күн бұрын

    You'll have to ask Andy - my obscure references tend to be a little less, well, current. 🤣

  • @oneofmanyAndyRobertsons
    @oneofmanyAndyRobertsons14 күн бұрын

    Yay, my turn to finally make an obscure, generationally-specific song reference, and somebody got it!! You're clearly a man of excellent and discerning taste, Christopher! 😁

  • @oneofmanyAndyRobertsons
    @oneofmanyAndyRobertsons14 күн бұрын

    ​@@EsotericOrderGamersha, whereas my 'recent' references are only a mere 30 years old now! 😅🤣

  • @ChristopherRidge
    @ChristopherRidge14 күн бұрын

    @@oneofmanyAndyRobertsons I was gonna say the same thing! Hahaha. I remember my dad playing that song for me when I was a kid (I'm 34). Lot of comedic bluegrassy music like that. I approve this reference! 😁

  • @oneofmanyAndyRobertsons
    @oneofmanyAndyRobertsons14 күн бұрын

    ​@@ChristopherRidgeand I approve your approval! 😎 In hindsight, some *really* weird stuff made it onto the radio back in the 90's - my poor, impressionable teen brain! 🤣

  • @42Randomise
    @42Randomise15 күн бұрын

    Good video thank you. Think I'll get into AOS with spearhead, seems like combat patrol was a test that didn't quite work and they figured out for spearhead.

  • @EsotericOrderGamers
    @EsotericOrderGamers14 күн бұрын

    I'm hoping now the next Warhammer 40K version gets this whole treatment, including the colour coded abilities.

  • @PickleTheHutt
    @PickleTheHutt15 күн бұрын

    You can't move on a charge if you can't end within a half inch of an enemy unit. You also don't have to declare which unit you're charging at until after you roll. So, you declare a charge, roll the dice, then can move that far as long as you end within 1/2 inch of any enemy unit. While the rules could have clarified the moving more specifically, it does say that the move MUST (and doesn't add an "if possible" clause) end within 1/2 inch of an enemy unit which implies that you can't move if that isn't true.

  • @EsotericOrderGamers
    @EsotericOrderGamers14 күн бұрын

    Thanks! That's the worst written rule ever - they definitely should have clarified that you don't move if you can't get within 1/2".

  • @42Randomise
    @42Randomise15 күн бұрын

    From battlereports I've watched the charge rule if failed the unit remains in place.. I haven't played so I'm sure someone else will confirm. :)

  • @crikeymiles
    @crikeymiles15 күн бұрын

    That “hairy bastard” reveal really made me laugh. 😂

  • @noprobllama9747
    @noprobllama974715 күн бұрын

    Awesome, can't wait for an enthusiastic battle report. You guys really bring the spirit of wargaming to the table.

  • @EsotericOrderGamers
    @EsotericOrderGamers14 күн бұрын

    Thankyou so much - we aim to entertain (and enjoy ourselves too)!

  • @oneofmanyAndyRobertsons
    @oneofmanyAndyRobertsons13 күн бұрын

    Thanks, man - enthusiasm *is* my superpower, after all 😉

  • @commodoreturtle
    @commodoreturtle15 күн бұрын

    I'm just getting into Dystopian Wars and this was one of the first few videos I watched that sold me on the game. Would absolutely love to see more batreps and content on the game

  • @EsotericOrderGamers
    @EsotericOrderGamers15 күн бұрын

    More new releases coming very soon!

  • @commodoreturtle
    @commodoreturtle15 күн бұрын

    @@EsotericOrderGamers I look forwards to it!

  • @joshgifford5821
    @joshgifford582115 күн бұрын

    Fantatic battle! Such great terrain! Beautiful work on this! So to clarify: Dark Machination is a melee attack that can only target downed characters. Its high risk high reward. Other clarification is on "Beast" trait on the Bone Fury preventing it from interacting with objectives. Disengage was already discussed in the comments here. Excelent camera work on this!

  • @EsotericOrderGamers
    @EsotericOrderGamers15 күн бұрын

    Thanks, and thanks for those clarifications. And by the way, we share the same excellent surname. 🤣

  • @joshgifford5821
    @joshgifford582115 күн бұрын

    @@EsotericOrderGamers oh snap! Look at us relicbladin' Giffs!

  • @EsotericOrderGamers
    @EsotericOrderGamers15 күн бұрын

    @@joshgifford5821 Further proof that everyone with our surname gets called 'Giff' at some point or another! 🤣

  • @morridin8
    @morridin815 күн бұрын

    Great video, thanks

  • @williamtanner2166
    @williamtanner216617 күн бұрын

    BAAAATTTLE REPOOOOOORRRRTT!!!!!

  • @EsotericOrderGamers
    @EsotericOrderGamers17 күн бұрын

    Yeah!

  • @kosterix123
    @kosterix12318 күн бұрын

    23 minutes of essentially explaining nothing why exactly the game is fun.

  • @EsotericOrderGamers
    @EsotericOrderGamers18 күн бұрын

    And yet I've got 22,000 subscribers and you've got 114.

  • @andrewbeeching1240
    @andrewbeeching124018 күн бұрын

    Played this about 10 years ago and really enjoyed it. The rules then weren't overly complicated really, but they did take a while - splitting up all the weapons and assigning shots from the larger ships could be prime analysis-paralysis time

  • @EsotericOrderGamers
    @EsotericOrderGamers18 күн бұрын

    I think the rules are pretty different now, though I must admit I never played the original Spartan version.

  • @mylor1066
    @mylor106619 күн бұрын

    Fyi @13:48 the colour temp changes. No biggie. But thought you would like to know! Great painting ;)

  • @EsotericOrderGamers
    @EsotericOrderGamers18 күн бұрын

    Yeah, wish I actually had a production budget. 🤣

  • @GordonMcLachlan
    @GordonMcLachlan19 күн бұрын

    Love the painting on the Stormcast! Is the silver just Leadbelcher? And what silver did you mix with the Retributor Armour to tone it down?

  • @EsotericOrderGamers
    @EsotericOrderGamers19 күн бұрын

    I used a lighter silver for the base coat as they're 'heroic' - probably Runefang Steel. Probably the same for the gold mix. I don't worry about recipes and paint names, I just grab whatever feels right at the time!

  • @GordonMcLachlan
    @GordonMcLachlan19 күн бұрын

    @@EsotericOrderGamers Thanks!

  • @yaribekkering-jr1hq
    @yaribekkering-jr1hq20 күн бұрын

    whats the base size on those rat ogres? 50mm or 60mm

  • @thesadcrab6685
    @thesadcrab668519 күн бұрын

    50mm

  • @EsotericOrderGamers
    @EsotericOrderGamers19 күн бұрын

    Thankyou for saving me the time to check that 🤣

  • @mattygee37
    @mattygee3720 күн бұрын

    The war hound with his legs back to front, rookie maintenance crew big whooopsy

  • @EsotericOrderGamers
    @EsotericOrderGamers19 күн бұрын

    Don't worry it's magnetised - a simple twist and it's fixed!