Great video, a real deep dive into the topic. You covered nearly all factors, but I im really surprised you didn't even mention the differences between the buffs for men at arms. For example there aren't as many buildings for buffing archers as there are for cavalry. Isn't this a important factor to consider? I would probably change the outcome in the late game. Anyways it was fun to watch ❤
@JayJay-wf2oe4 күн бұрын
Your video quality is unreal. As a data analyst myself I am ultra impressed
@darkrider95bilmemney828 күн бұрын
This is the best CK3 video ever, and it doesn't even include gameplay.
@youaresoyou10729 күн бұрын
The beat is nice and smooth
@Snowy12311 күн бұрын
This is legit the BEST CK3 video I've seen. Everyone wants to know "Whats the best MAA" and you showed your homework! I hope you keep it up!
@perceptoshmegington337112 күн бұрын
This dude sounds insanely like Sargon of Akkad. It’s fucking uncanny.
@blackfalcon132413 күн бұрын
Good information, tho I think value per gold is not relevant in the late game. Your income eventually becomes so big that the limiting factor is getting maximum value per stack regardless of the cost.
@autisonm17 күн бұрын
Since Metsänvartija have pursuit and screen wouldnt they actually pair well with pikemen?
@saitamagotchi4421 күн бұрын
Having just done a rabbinic playthrough i can say that shomer replacing light footman makes a big difference, most cultural troops are worth looking at.
@Jguthro25 күн бұрын
Cmon. Im a data analytics stident. Can I see the code
@kuroki_suzume28 күн бұрын
When I heard " I wrote python script...", I understood that it will be interesting )))
@Ascaron133728 күн бұрын
Commenting before watching. I say Heavy Inf all the way. Less counters, easily boosted by a vanguard knight and get the baracks to boost the stationed regiments even more. They have the most damage output and have less losses, so can be used repeatedly. Or go full cheese and use siege weapons only and win by speed sieging.
@X7-kk9mpАй бұрын
only time your math classes matters
@GeanAmirakuАй бұрын
Great video, thanks! I usually look at the neighbours I'm going to be fighting in the next hundred years and build something that would counter what they have built, plus I try to account for terrain as much as I can, it matters. Then I get bullied by mercs because AI had a ton of money and I forgot to account for that.
@dwikurniawan3031Ай бұрын
It hits different when statistic come into the games 😂😂😂
@firespark8455Ай бұрын
Big thing you missed is that not all regiments get the same bonuses. I made a chart and found that while archers get over 500 percent with max buildings, heavy inf got less then 400%. Light cav also gets over 500% (this does not include wind furnaces, with it would go over 600%). Also in tribal cost is not an issue since it’s prestige, which you get boat loads of from winning battles while raiding. Tribal holdings also get much higher men at arms bonuses early game compared to feudal ones, getting things like horse archers close to 200% at game start. Accolade bonuses also apply after all these terrain bonuses, and since crossbows have 2 accolades, they get much larger and have a much larger bonus, both from buildings and accolades, giving insane stats. Levies also are a penalty for a high quality army when fighting on bad combat width, since your shitty units are taking up space your good ones could be using.
@llosgfynydd9043Ай бұрын
Yes. You're right. The max bonuses are different for each type. I'm pretty sure I covered having different bonuses in the asynchronous buffing section. 🤔 And as for tribal. Yes. Very different approach when winning battles gets prestige. But the video was long enough. 😀
@loganflaig6632Ай бұрын
heavy cav will always be better because past 100 years in money is fake
@Brendor77Ай бұрын
Just for a fun non vanilla gameplay in 867 I hybridized the Han culture, those dudes got repeating crossbows and the schomer the super light infantry from Israelite cultures… any suggestions unique culture warrior combos to add or different combos?
@HuggerlymuggАй бұрын
These are amazing- please make more!
@PerfectAlibi1Ай бұрын
Personally I love running 2x Crossbows, 2x Picchieri (unique pikes), 2x Horse archers and 2x best available siege equipment. Making sure, I also buff them with buildings of where they best stationed. Allows me to split them right down the middle and still get stack wipes of vastly larger armies ^^
@TrgnАй бұрын
Real gamer content. Subbed
@JimmyIsaacVenturaSalcedoАй бұрын
Can I haz python code, pretty please with cheese on top
@llosgfynydd9043Ай бұрын
I would but: A) I'm too embarrassed. B) it needs tidying up
@JimmyIsaacVenturaSalcedoАй бұрын
@@llosgfynydd9043 Let me try to clean it up for you 🥺
@celwenileran2135Ай бұрын
My favourite combo is fully specialized archers. Because archers get some stupid amount favoritism in this game. They get so many different buildings and cultural traditions that boost them. On top of that, combo of longbows + crossbows has you covered for entirety of the game. All you need is 1 unit of pikemen to protect them.
@SagelyHijinksАй бұрын
Incredible work!
@ennou1236Ай бұрын
After rewatching some videos I wonder, realistically speaking, what is the highest regiment size, I know that archers/crossbows have the highest limit, the highest size I got I think it was a 3.2k varangian regiment without military academies, so maybe "max" size archer regiments can reach 4k per regiment? Maybe then one can possibly field 36k men at arms
@John_1-1_in_JapaneseАй бұрын
I don't know a thing about the game, just hire whatever men-at-arms has big number for current culture, then throw absolute numbers at enemies. In face, I don't plan to learn because this video is 43 minutes long and I'm way too impatient so I'll just put in "Watch Later" which means I'll probably never watch it.
@John_1-1_in_JapaneseАй бұрын
I'll subscribe though
@laszlobandi6456Ай бұрын
playing in east or south europe, one of the most important thing is countering byzantine. Had the same with Ukraine, Hungary, Italy. They counter axes. Glad you said the bondi is efficient, I had to replace one so I dropped the vigmen, now I won't even get them next time I play norse. Countering byzantine is usually best on hills, even if I had good units for plains. Levies are only good up to like 30-50k. The 30k mark because during crusades you got to form single stacks and move it like that, just to get the good commanders leading, and any size is burning down to 25-30k with attrition, so levy reinforcement is always better than more levies, and more taxes from contracts are better from the contracts. the councillors also increase the contracts, so better to have them one sided toward taxes, as they push back the levies anyway. Dunno, maybe having a tribal kingdom vassal might worth for extra levies. Horse archers are strong because they counter their own category on top of the rps. Konni supposed to be an upgrade, but it's not, even with higher stats is weaker. So special units power can be in the small print. The last part is not true. You can have units of a culture without being that culture. Forming Portugal as your first Kingdom and reforming Hungary as a catholic (krstjani best, don't go christian or otrthodox) gives you 2 random techs, which can only be the special techs if you got all tribal innovations. It's random so you can even drop a save before it. Wootz steel from India or the embarking cost, or others are pretty interesting when you wouldn't normally occupy and convert so much land to get it. But I tried, and for middle europe is kind of easy to get a few of them just by going north, converting capitals and vassals converting the rest for you. The other is inheritance. You can get your landed wives units or vassals that you appoint (old guy with an old wife or eunuch) and if you got slots of maa, you inherit their units from most to least units. Did by accident and got mubarizun last run. I just dropped a few high stewardship guys of any culture as vassals, cities actually keep the culture of the last ruler and landing them elsewhere won't make it a republic, if one is elected is same culture so you can try again. But the best exploit seems to be the acolytes. Especially hastiluder trait is strong. They are the ones getting +2 stacks of man at arms of a category, which is based on their trait in foot/horse/bow/wit. Not sure what is the wit, havent tried, horse can be horse archer or cataphract, they need ¼ xp maxed in hastiluder and the culture specific pillar like horse lords or the greek for cataphracts. If you land them they are almost guaranteed to get that unit first, you can give them some gold to make sure. Then you can marry more courtiers and get more acolytes and successors as it won't be easy to find one if you are not hybridized with them, because the search successor option completely misses out on the culture restriction. If you upgrade the acolytes to 2 has the first useful bonus and on 4? I think you get retinue version of whatever man at arms which is basically same but might take a lot of time.
@vincikosАй бұрын
What is strange god
@laszlobandi6456Ай бұрын
norse specific legacy perk, I think 3rd of 5 of 1st column. probably you can hybridize and take their heritage to get 2 rows of new legacy perks. that one is kind of useless until it's not. starts with gifting +100% opinion then religion buffs, then I think you get 2 stacks and 2 extra slot of heavy inf (huscarl and veterans). by accident I had 7x stacks 9-11 each and 19x3 mubarizun and huscarl by age 987. it's not bad, but like the exponential cost makes it bad, taking marriage acceptance 30 and kin 2-3 perks (fertility, better education, less pregnancy issues and plague resistance, spouse care) is speeding up the process way better than going for anything in norse. maybe I'm biased cause the sigurdr/oskyldir starts off with no renown at the 867 start. 5th perk is befriending vassals option (which is worse than ritualized friendship option or just 5 year diplo education). also the other norse perks are toward siege and ransom and earning prestige and gold for it. believe what you want, but raiding is only for unreformed, so it's better to believe asatru or Táltosism :D
@cutemutadedbearwithtwoheadsАй бұрын
as polish and polabian full Konni as South indian playing tall till full elephants as northindian raiding till elephants as african i just take special units as westeuropean bowmen till i have threethousend leavies then full besiging(im german i have no idea how to write that) equip as any roman cultuire only katakraps and then after i took control of the culture i improve it more the rest i dont know
@liverpol34567Ай бұрын
Go for India next since I’m playing India :). But maybe wait for DLC for India.
@liverpol34567Ай бұрын
Your content is unexpectedly deep and informative. Good work. I like that you put a summary and the 10 rules of thumbs are the cherry on top
@ilayohana3150Ай бұрын
This actually means these religions suck because it increases the likelyhood youll have vassals or family convert away
@rouxmain934Ай бұрын
Right now I'm playing Cultures Expanded and using Huskarls + Norman Knights (Heavy Cav that counters Archers + Skirmishers). Once I get Crossbows I'll consider Crossbows + Bondí or Crossbows + Camels.
@lichenwtf2 ай бұрын
Superb work on this video! Crunching the numbers provides some awesome insights, like the bowmen that I've been sleeping on. I'm also a big fan of the key takeaways at the end to wrap up this dense but satisfactory video.
@theoharismoisidis53822 ай бұрын
Only people with university degrees understand this video lol!
@llosgfynydd90432 ай бұрын
I fear I went too far
@mikepjersey2 ай бұрын
You sound like Sargon.
@llosgfynydd90432 ай бұрын
:(
@ilayohana31502 ай бұрын
amazing
@chansantawisuk2 ай бұрын
And then there is me. Stacking knight effectiveness. 60 men stack wiping 50k+ army.
@llosgfynydd90432 ай бұрын
And by the grace of God go you
@maxdautel22172 ай бұрын
cool but hard 2 understand u
@llosgfynydd90432 ай бұрын
Too quiet or too British?
@Nekitamo222 ай бұрын
hello! is there a way to message you privately?
@JhinTonique2 ай бұрын
First time real equations gets their use for me since i finished school
@granite_45762 ай бұрын
Cost performance on skirmishers is really high, however with these benefits stacked you probably don't need that hha
@llosgfynydd90432 ай бұрын
You're right. With all that cash you could probably get some more flash.
@Nahzer2 ай бұрын
Appreciate the tips, you’re making me think about this game in ways I haven’t before. I just watched your dread video too. Very entertaining watching you violate some kind of Geneva Convention.😂
@Al-Basha_2 ай бұрын
Which to have if I jave access to both the ayyar and mubarizun?
@llosgfynydd90432 ай бұрын
That's depends on your needs
@charliechow20102 ай бұрын
Great video. But does anyone know why Asawira performs so badly? After all, it has 90 damage per stack.
@llosgfynydd90432 ай бұрын
So if you include it's terrain bonuses, it does quite a lot of damage. Also a lot of its value comes from its counters.
@sk37chyznonegiven22 ай бұрын
What song did you use for bg?
@llosgfynydd90432 ай бұрын
A caring friend off KZread studio
@sk37chyznonegiven22 ай бұрын
@@llosgfynydd9043 Thank you!
@Alex-zw7sr2 ай бұрын
I wanted to mention a niche strategy that's hard to cover in a video like this. In the Iberian Peninsula in the 867 start it's very powerful to stack a lot of Caballeros. Early game it's hard to stack wipe an enemy, but if you have enough horses you're practically guaranteed to run down a 1000 man army to nearly nothing (assuming you win the battle and get to pursue). This made a lot of the early slugging far easier for me in conquering Spain. Pursuit can be extremely powerful when then enemy has no screen. Often times I killed 5X in the pursuit than in the battle.
@llosgfynydd90432 ай бұрын
I tried this in Spain. And in Spain those Caballeros have made screen. Makes it a nightmare to run anything down.
@vaughanschulte6102 ай бұрын
Fantastic Work!
@alcaras2 ай бұрын
Thanks for this analysis! Agreed the Xbows are the best. A few things I think that you left out -- - Buildings are not created equal. You can get more bonuses for Archers than for other MaA types. And Forest is plentiful. e.g. my Crossbows are doing 300 damage (and could be higher if I used my duchy building for an Archery Ground instead of a Military Academy). Where as Heavy Infantry wants ... farmland for its best buildings. - Accolades are not created equal. Crossbows (and Archers) benefit from _both_ the Crossbow and Archer accolade, and you can stack both if you have a knight with at least 20 xp in Hastiluder: Bow. This gets you a whopping +16 regiment size for each regiment you have. - Cost reductions make everything way cheaper in mid game, especially Dread based cost reductions, e.g. I had 40,000 crossbows that cost me 1.1 gold / month when raised - You don't need siege if you have workshops. And workshops buff Archers. That means more crossbows. - Combat width means you want high quality troops, since the larger army gets a damage penalty - Knights are insanely valuable since they only take 1 combat width and thus are always present in combat - I'm not sure terrain bonuses matter past the very early game. I don't know that they scale based off buildings, which means they get washed out entirely - Countering only works if someone has more units than you do -- this means if you have more units than they do, _they cannot counter you_ effectively - Crossbows counter Heavy Infantry _and_ Heavy Cavalry _and_ Horse Archers - Thanks to Accolades, Crossbows will _always outnumber_ their opponent. No other MaA type double-dips in Accolades. I haven't tested this in game, but from mathing it out, I'm pretty sure that even an optimal anti-crossbow army of the best light cav (which counters archers) -- Chasseurs -- with the best buildings and equivalent knights -- fighting on plains -- would lose to the best crossbow army because there are more crossbows, so aren't countered effectively, and they have better buildings so do more damage (and have a higher base damage of 42 vs. 40 for Chasseurs). So even in the worst conditions, Crossbows win. And Chasseurs require a specific Empire, and most Light Cav is far worse than Chasseurs.
@llosgfynydd90432 ай бұрын
Yes. I agree with everything here. Just some things to note. Terrain is added before buffs are applied. So it is super valuable. Combat width is great, but people over value it. It has diminishing returns. So double troops make x0.75 damage. You need infinitely more troops to get x0.5. Finally, crossbows have a terrain penalty in flatland. So I think chassuers would win without accolades.
@alcaras2 ай бұрын
@@llosgfynydd9043 Good to know that terrain is added before % bonuses. Is there a CK3 combat mod to easily test different comps? I am pretty sure, from my napkin math, that max upgraded crossbows would beat max upgraded chassuers, just because xbows have better accolades and buildings
@adventurousmedic2 ай бұрын
Yes but what does it mean? What do the numbers mean Mason! *Quality upload. Well-done!
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Great video, a real deep dive into the topic. You covered nearly all factors, but I im really surprised you didn't even mention the differences between the buffs for men at arms. For example there aren't as many buildings for buffing archers as there are for cavalry. Isn't this a important factor to consider? I would probably change the outcome in the late game. Anyways it was fun to watch ❤
Your video quality is unreal. As a data analyst myself I am ultra impressed
This is the best CK3 video ever, and it doesn't even include gameplay.
The beat is nice and smooth
This is legit the BEST CK3 video I've seen. Everyone wants to know "Whats the best MAA" and you showed your homework! I hope you keep it up!
This dude sounds insanely like Sargon of Akkad. It’s fucking uncanny.
Good information, tho I think value per gold is not relevant in the late game. Your income eventually becomes so big that the limiting factor is getting maximum value per stack regardless of the cost.
Since Metsänvartija have pursuit and screen wouldnt they actually pair well with pikemen?
Having just done a rabbinic playthrough i can say that shomer replacing light footman makes a big difference, most cultural troops are worth looking at.
Cmon. Im a data analytics stident. Can I see the code
When I heard " I wrote python script...", I understood that it will be interesting )))
Commenting before watching. I say Heavy Inf all the way. Less counters, easily boosted by a vanguard knight and get the baracks to boost the stationed regiments even more. They have the most damage output and have less losses, so can be used repeatedly. Or go full cheese and use siege weapons only and win by speed sieging.
only time your math classes matters
Great video, thanks! I usually look at the neighbours I'm going to be fighting in the next hundred years and build something that would counter what they have built, plus I try to account for terrain as much as I can, it matters. Then I get bullied by mercs because AI had a ton of money and I forgot to account for that.
It hits different when statistic come into the games 😂😂😂
Big thing you missed is that not all regiments get the same bonuses. I made a chart and found that while archers get over 500 percent with max buildings, heavy inf got less then 400%. Light cav also gets over 500% (this does not include wind furnaces, with it would go over 600%). Also in tribal cost is not an issue since it’s prestige, which you get boat loads of from winning battles while raiding. Tribal holdings also get much higher men at arms bonuses early game compared to feudal ones, getting things like horse archers close to 200% at game start. Accolade bonuses also apply after all these terrain bonuses, and since crossbows have 2 accolades, they get much larger and have a much larger bonus, both from buildings and accolades, giving insane stats. Levies also are a penalty for a high quality army when fighting on bad combat width, since your shitty units are taking up space your good ones could be using.
Yes. You're right. The max bonuses are different for each type. I'm pretty sure I covered having different bonuses in the asynchronous buffing section. 🤔 And as for tribal. Yes. Very different approach when winning battles gets prestige. But the video was long enough. 😀
heavy cav will always be better because past 100 years in money is fake
Just for a fun non vanilla gameplay in 867 I hybridized the Han culture, those dudes got repeating crossbows and the schomer the super light infantry from Israelite cultures… any suggestions unique culture warrior combos to add or different combos?
These are amazing- please make more!
Personally I love running 2x Crossbows, 2x Picchieri (unique pikes), 2x Horse archers and 2x best available siege equipment. Making sure, I also buff them with buildings of where they best stationed. Allows me to split them right down the middle and still get stack wipes of vastly larger armies ^^
Real gamer content. Subbed
Can I haz python code, pretty please with cheese on top
I would but: A) I'm too embarrassed. B) it needs tidying up
@@llosgfynydd9043 Let me try to clean it up for you 🥺
My favourite combo is fully specialized archers. Because archers get some stupid amount favoritism in this game. They get so many different buildings and cultural traditions that boost them. On top of that, combo of longbows + crossbows has you covered for entirety of the game. All you need is 1 unit of pikemen to protect them.
Incredible work!
After rewatching some videos I wonder, realistically speaking, what is the highest regiment size, I know that archers/crossbows have the highest limit, the highest size I got I think it was a 3.2k varangian regiment without military academies, so maybe "max" size archer regiments can reach 4k per regiment? Maybe then one can possibly field 36k men at arms
I don't know a thing about the game, just hire whatever men-at-arms has big number for current culture, then throw absolute numbers at enemies. In face, I don't plan to learn because this video is 43 minutes long and I'm way too impatient so I'll just put in "Watch Later" which means I'll probably never watch it.
I'll subscribe though
playing in east or south europe, one of the most important thing is countering byzantine. Had the same with Ukraine, Hungary, Italy. They counter axes. Glad you said the bondi is efficient, I had to replace one so I dropped the vigmen, now I won't even get them next time I play norse. Countering byzantine is usually best on hills, even if I had good units for plains. Levies are only good up to like 30-50k. The 30k mark because during crusades you got to form single stacks and move it like that, just to get the good commanders leading, and any size is burning down to 25-30k with attrition, so levy reinforcement is always better than more levies, and more taxes from contracts are better from the contracts. the councillors also increase the contracts, so better to have them one sided toward taxes, as they push back the levies anyway. Dunno, maybe having a tribal kingdom vassal might worth for extra levies. Horse archers are strong because they counter their own category on top of the rps. Konni supposed to be an upgrade, but it's not, even with higher stats is weaker. So special units power can be in the small print. The last part is not true. You can have units of a culture without being that culture. Forming Portugal as your first Kingdom and reforming Hungary as a catholic (krstjani best, don't go christian or otrthodox) gives you 2 random techs, which can only be the special techs if you got all tribal innovations. It's random so you can even drop a save before it. Wootz steel from India or the embarking cost, or others are pretty interesting when you wouldn't normally occupy and convert so much land to get it. But I tried, and for middle europe is kind of easy to get a few of them just by going north, converting capitals and vassals converting the rest for you. The other is inheritance. You can get your landed wives units or vassals that you appoint (old guy with an old wife or eunuch) and if you got slots of maa, you inherit their units from most to least units. Did by accident and got mubarizun last run. I just dropped a few high stewardship guys of any culture as vassals, cities actually keep the culture of the last ruler and landing them elsewhere won't make it a republic, if one is elected is same culture so you can try again. But the best exploit seems to be the acolytes. Especially hastiluder trait is strong. They are the ones getting +2 stacks of man at arms of a category, which is based on their trait in foot/horse/bow/wit. Not sure what is the wit, havent tried, horse can be horse archer or cataphract, they need ¼ xp maxed in hastiluder and the culture specific pillar like horse lords or the greek for cataphracts. If you land them they are almost guaranteed to get that unit first, you can give them some gold to make sure. Then you can marry more courtiers and get more acolytes and successors as it won't be easy to find one if you are not hybridized with them, because the search successor option completely misses out on the culture restriction. If you upgrade the acolytes to 2 has the first useful bonus and on 4? I think you get retinue version of whatever man at arms which is basically same but might take a lot of time.
What is strange god
norse specific legacy perk, I think 3rd of 5 of 1st column. probably you can hybridize and take their heritage to get 2 rows of new legacy perks. that one is kind of useless until it's not. starts with gifting +100% opinion then religion buffs, then I think you get 2 stacks and 2 extra slot of heavy inf (huscarl and veterans). by accident I had 7x stacks 9-11 each and 19x3 mubarizun and huscarl by age 987. it's not bad, but like the exponential cost makes it bad, taking marriage acceptance 30 and kin 2-3 perks (fertility, better education, less pregnancy issues and plague resistance, spouse care) is speeding up the process way better than going for anything in norse. maybe I'm biased cause the sigurdr/oskyldir starts off with no renown at the 867 start. 5th perk is befriending vassals option (which is worse than ritualized friendship option or just 5 year diplo education). also the other norse perks are toward siege and ransom and earning prestige and gold for it. believe what you want, but raiding is only for unreformed, so it's better to believe asatru or Táltosism :D
as polish and polabian full Konni as South indian playing tall till full elephants as northindian raiding till elephants as african i just take special units as westeuropean bowmen till i have threethousend leavies then full besiging(im german i have no idea how to write that) equip as any roman cultuire only katakraps and then after i took control of the culture i improve it more the rest i dont know
Go for India next since I’m playing India :). But maybe wait for DLC for India.
Your content is unexpectedly deep and informative. Good work. I like that you put a summary and the 10 rules of thumbs are the cherry on top
This actually means these religions suck because it increases the likelyhood youll have vassals or family convert away
Right now I'm playing Cultures Expanded and using Huskarls + Norman Knights (Heavy Cav that counters Archers + Skirmishers). Once I get Crossbows I'll consider Crossbows + Bondí or Crossbows + Camels.
Superb work on this video! Crunching the numbers provides some awesome insights, like the bowmen that I've been sleeping on. I'm also a big fan of the key takeaways at the end to wrap up this dense but satisfactory video.
Only people with university degrees understand this video lol!
I fear I went too far
You sound like Sargon.
:(
amazing
And then there is me. Stacking knight effectiveness. 60 men stack wiping 50k+ army.
And by the grace of God go you
cool but hard 2 understand u
Too quiet or too British?
hello! is there a way to message you privately?
First time real equations gets their use for me since i finished school
Cost performance on skirmishers is really high, however with these benefits stacked you probably don't need that hha
You're right. With all that cash you could probably get some more flash.
Appreciate the tips, you’re making me think about this game in ways I haven’t before. I just watched your dread video too. Very entertaining watching you violate some kind of Geneva Convention.😂
Which to have if I jave access to both the ayyar and mubarizun?
That's depends on your needs
Great video. But does anyone know why Asawira performs so badly? After all, it has 90 damage per stack.
So if you include it's terrain bonuses, it does quite a lot of damage. Also a lot of its value comes from its counters.
What song did you use for bg?
A caring friend off KZread studio
@@llosgfynydd9043 Thank you!
I wanted to mention a niche strategy that's hard to cover in a video like this. In the Iberian Peninsula in the 867 start it's very powerful to stack a lot of Caballeros. Early game it's hard to stack wipe an enemy, but if you have enough horses you're practically guaranteed to run down a 1000 man army to nearly nothing (assuming you win the battle and get to pursue). This made a lot of the early slugging far easier for me in conquering Spain. Pursuit can be extremely powerful when then enemy has no screen. Often times I killed 5X in the pursuit than in the battle.
I tried this in Spain. And in Spain those Caballeros have made screen. Makes it a nightmare to run anything down.
Fantastic Work!
Thanks for this analysis! Agreed the Xbows are the best. A few things I think that you left out -- - Buildings are not created equal. You can get more bonuses for Archers than for other MaA types. And Forest is plentiful. e.g. my Crossbows are doing 300 damage (and could be higher if I used my duchy building for an Archery Ground instead of a Military Academy). Where as Heavy Infantry wants ... farmland for its best buildings. - Accolades are not created equal. Crossbows (and Archers) benefit from _both_ the Crossbow and Archer accolade, and you can stack both if you have a knight with at least 20 xp in Hastiluder: Bow. This gets you a whopping +16 regiment size for each regiment you have. - Cost reductions make everything way cheaper in mid game, especially Dread based cost reductions, e.g. I had 40,000 crossbows that cost me 1.1 gold / month when raised - You don't need siege if you have workshops. And workshops buff Archers. That means more crossbows. - Combat width means you want high quality troops, since the larger army gets a damage penalty - Knights are insanely valuable since they only take 1 combat width and thus are always present in combat - I'm not sure terrain bonuses matter past the very early game. I don't know that they scale based off buildings, which means they get washed out entirely - Countering only works if someone has more units than you do -- this means if you have more units than they do, _they cannot counter you_ effectively - Crossbows counter Heavy Infantry _and_ Heavy Cavalry _and_ Horse Archers - Thanks to Accolades, Crossbows will _always outnumber_ their opponent. No other MaA type double-dips in Accolades. I haven't tested this in game, but from mathing it out, I'm pretty sure that even an optimal anti-crossbow army of the best light cav (which counters archers) -- Chasseurs -- with the best buildings and equivalent knights -- fighting on plains -- would lose to the best crossbow army because there are more crossbows, so aren't countered effectively, and they have better buildings so do more damage (and have a higher base damage of 42 vs. 40 for Chasseurs). So even in the worst conditions, Crossbows win. And Chasseurs require a specific Empire, and most Light Cav is far worse than Chasseurs.
Yes. I agree with everything here. Just some things to note. Terrain is added before buffs are applied. So it is super valuable. Combat width is great, but people over value it. It has diminishing returns. So double troops make x0.75 damage. You need infinitely more troops to get x0.5. Finally, crossbows have a terrain penalty in flatland. So I think chassuers would win without accolades.
@@llosgfynydd9043 Good to know that terrain is added before % bonuses. Is there a CK3 combat mod to easily test different comps? I am pretty sure, from my napkin math, that max upgraded crossbows would beat max upgraded chassuers, just because xbows have better accolades and buildings
Yes but what does it mean? What do the numbers mean Mason! *Quality upload. Well-done!