This is absurdly powerful considering how easy it is to implement :D

@llosgfynydd9043

Жыл бұрын

Wow. The Spiffing Brit, what an honour. When finding this exploit, I did think a certain someone would like it.

@lema0925

Жыл бұрын

hey spiff, thought i would see you here. when's the next vid?

@JohnSmith-ox3gy

Жыл бұрын

I drank two litres of black tea today, and I don't feel too good.

@lema0925

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnSmith-ox3gy try some yorkshire tea, it'll make you feel better.

@Metal00m

Жыл бұрын

@@llosgfynydd9043 I may try this against a friend perhaps hah

When your Healthcare is so good some of the enemies join your army after each battle

"Mi'lord, the ravens are here, we've won the battle!" "Amazing, what were their losses?" "uhhhhh"

@andrewgreeb916

Жыл бұрын

What do you mean they all ran away and some of our wounded joined them as well?

@JohnSmith-ox3gy

Жыл бұрын

It appears they have recruited 100 of our men and lost none of their own!

@arnoldgila9212

Жыл бұрын

...Uhhhhh See sir now the dead walk

@MyVanir

Жыл бұрын

Osowiecz, then and again.

@donder172

Жыл бұрын

Attack of the dead, hundred men.

Great strategy. Not quite as ridiculous as stacking damage buffs until every battle is an automatic stack wipe, but the minimal amount of setup is a big plus.

@llosgfynydd9043

Жыл бұрын

True. I am an advocate of the Welsh longbow super troopers too.

@carl4889

Жыл бұрын

It can be done easily with heavy cav and elephants as well. But speaking of archers of death, I still need to play a game where I hybridize Sami and Bashkir cultures and spam forestries.

This is the kind of content that's been missing for ck3 on youtube

@andrews2727

Жыл бұрын

I forget their channel name but someone used to make stuff like this for EU4, just really informative deep dives on a specific mechanic and how it REALLY worked

@catto3504

Жыл бұрын

​@@andrews2727 are you thinking of BudgetMonk?

Finally, even anti-mod purists can LARP as a necromancer

Reminds me of the time Lichtenstein's army went on a campaign and returned with 1 more man than they left with

@arnoldgila9212

Жыл бұрын

I see a fellow man of culture

Mechanics do be mechanics, it's a fun time to mess with the numbers. I am really interested in the fact that they didn't cap it at a -90 or -95% reduction like they did for a number of things in EU4, but they probably expected that nobody would ever bother stacking stuff like this.

@llosgfynydd9043

Жыл бұрын

They underestimated how bored I was.

@francesco8000

Жыл бұрын

I guess the reason is that they thought (correctly) that people would focus more on "winning more" instead of "losing less". There are hundreds of guides on how to create invincible armies of space marines with god like rulers and knights but this is the first time i see a strategy centered around grinding your opponent while you are losing.

@Arbaaltheundefeated

Жыл бұрын

Somehow Paradox games always seem to be really good for messing around with broken mechanics, I love it xD

@tuluppampam

Жыл бұрын

​@@francesco8000 perhaps they just haven't thought about it, for example if they added such buffs at different times, thus forgetting to cap it

@LibertyMonk

Жыл бұрын

​@@Arbaaltheundefeated they just have so many mechanics that often interact in unplanned ways. They'll add some niche flavor to some region, then later add the ability to change to something else, and suddenly you've got 100% cost reduction, or 300% benefit increase.

We never think about screen for a good reason, it only matters when you loose. And we usualy are attempting to max out our chance of wining and not minimizing the damage of a loss xD

@llosgfynydd9043

Жыл бұрын

So did I....till now!

Immortality before Paradox made it into a DLC, nice

Just gotta be craven while you command so you don't get captured when you lose the battle, and it'll be perfect! Nice strat!

@llosgfynydd9043

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. It just dawned on me you're that ck3 speed runner!

This strategy is so easy to implement and you could actually even pair with knight effectiveness and damage buff stacking that you turn your levies, men-at-arms and knights into actual doomslayers. The dark side of the force is a pathway to many abilities some would consider unnatural

@llosgfynydd9043

Жыл бұрын

I know! I just didn't have time. Job and all. But you can go there.

@arnoldgila9212

Жыл бұрын

Not many are blessed with the time nor the ability But the few...

@citricdemon

Жыл бұрын

No

@drerojas8

Жыл бұрын

I started with the Roman culture and they have Catherphacts cavalry. I stacked by duchies with jousting fields and they now do 600 damage.. melt troops

I love you bro, you're really breathing life into ck3 for me. I always thought Screening is useless since you shouldnt prepare for defeat and instead focus on winning. But this changes that🤔 i'll try this strategy, thank you!

@llosgfynydd9043

Жыл бұрын

Thanks man, yeah. I originally had the same thoughts too.

That was brilliant, I've never seen anything like it before.

Damm good video! I was surprised to see you only have two videos lol. Keep it up, you got a knack for it!

Great video - both entertaining and informative. More pls

Oh my gosh, this is amazingly ridiculous. You my friend have just gotten a subscription.

Great video, and fun new way to play!

Great video! Keep up the good work

great video. Definitely going to try it out!

I need to try this! Looks fun!

This video is so calming

this is great! and it isn't simply all or nothing, these are valuable statistics even if you reduce casualties SOME this tactic, in combination with others should be great!

Your content is amazing, keep it up!

You're about to go far kid

Other funny thing is stacking knight effectiveness and stackwiping 5000k+ armies with 15 men.

@llosgfynydd9043

Жыл бұрын

Beautifully overkill

This has interesting potential for the fantasy mods out there too (assuming it hasn't already been done).

Very nice

Reminds me of the time liechtenstin went to war with 80 troops and returned with 81 after befriending a local italian. (I’m aware it’s not true)

@llosgfynydd9043

Жыл бұрын

Awww. That's a much lovelier idea. It wasn't about the battles fought, but the friends we made on the way. ♥️

The troops realize that your undead army is unbeatable so they defect

nice find

Only ever picked state ransoming once without the other bonuses and it was still insanely strong

Some could say you gain troops from enemy desertion. But I still like necromancy.

Holy shit, you're so underrated

Wow, somebody gonna stack absolutely all possible bonuses for casualties

@llosgfynydd9043

Жыл бұрын

Not me sadly. :(

A build that will make the persians envious

certified necromancy classic

I noticed something weird. My 6.5k stack of extremly boosted MaA stackwiped an army of 35000 in a single battle. But it only inflicted 6000 deaths on the enemy. Where did the rest go? Fell over and died?

@damackabet.4611

5 ай бұрын

Went back home, morale broke.

I mean, this is great and all, but it's no goose stepping Welsh Longbowmen of Doom.

You have discovered necromancy, good sir

This is awesome it's the ultimate skirmisher build.

@llosgfynydd9043

Жыл бұрын

I know. Finally a build that doesn't involve stacking knights.

@arnoldgila9212

Жыл бұрын

Absolut definicion of Hit and run

They made some friends along the way!

I had a similar idea when i saw the Shomer (defensive tatics) i was thinking in a "turtle" empire and go tall with cheap troops with high Thougness and screen so mantaining was also easier, i thougth is stack health for my leader and casualites reduction with some commander traits like Unyielding Defender if i was lucky, my ideia wasn't win the combat but win by attriction sinc ei was only defending my place. with the hybrid cultures expansion seem got stronger

@llosgfynydd9043

Жыл бұрын

You're right. The min-maxing options became much more plentiful with traditions.

The Lich King Strat

Send in the Immortals!! ;D

@llosgfynydd9043

Жыл бұрын

Persia wants their secret back.

The ultimate Liechtenstein tactics

Maybe a little bit too much time dedicated to custom rulers, given that they're just going to die, but overall a really handy strategy guide 😙👌

@llosgfynydd9043

Жыл бұрын

true, a little too much time, typically I never use custom rulers in my personal play-through, but I just didn't have the time to get there.

@ChartreuseDan

Жыл бұрын

@@llosgfynydd9043 Didn't want to leave a single useful bit of info out, I respect that. You're already releasing great content, I think if you keep putting these videos out they should get really popular. Thanks for the upload and the reply 😁

This is getting the nerf bat as soon as it gets known XD it still will be fun to do though! Thanks

@llosgfynydd9043

Жыл бұрын

Don't say that

@drazarkabalblade9486

Жыл бұрын

@@llosgfynydd9043 I'm not saying that I would like it PX

Perfectly balanced

If the enemy has a fatal casualties bonus, does it multiply by the 0 and do nothing, or does it add back what your modifiers subtracted?

@llosgfynydd9043

Жыл бұрын

It's addition. So it's subtract of your sum

@ingold1470

Жыл бұрын

@@llosgfynydd9043 So getting +fatal casualties is quite important for fighting Iberians and other cultures with casualty reducing traits.. assuming you can't simply stackwipe them.

Lore of CK3: Immortal Troops | How to make every enemy victory Pyrrhic Momentum 100

Thanks. This was wonderful and funny video. I just want to add something that I view as downside of this strategy. It would be very unreliable even at difficult starts as it is dependent on very specific traits, perks and traditions. As beautiful as immortal troops seem. They still need to get paid. The reason why I wouldn't go for this strategy is that it just seems to prolong wars that can be won faster with other strategies - if you are outnumbered just get yourself some allies. Just as one addition to the cons of otherwise very funny and interesting mechanic.

@llosgfynydd9043

Жыл бұрын

All very true points. However, what is money really, when we are god's chosen.

@andyhx2

Жыл бұрын

@@llosgfynydd9043 I also think that you've missed an opportunity to make some Age of Empires based memes with Hololooo. Those immortal soldiers could be explained by priests constantly healing tropps as well as converting enemy soldiers.

@partydean17

Жыл бұрын

I mean here is a king that actually cares about his men and doesn't want to see a single one die He's so inspirational people try joining his cause mid battle.

Also worth a mention that the incredibly powerful State Ransoming tradition can in fact be picked up by anyone whose Cultural Head learns to speak the Iberian Vulgar language. So you don't *have* to play an Iberian to make use of this ridiculous strat.

@llosgfynydd9043

Жыл бұрын

I didn't think of that. Maybe Iberian Vulgar is the negotiating language? But that does free up that tradition even more.

@Arbaaltheundefeated

Жыл бұрын

@@llosgfynydd9043 I had a rather fun time using this as a Viking. Lossless retreats to offshore safety!

👏😁

It can bet far worse (because of course it can) with mods. I didn't know the mechanics of it until now, but I've had this happen with my immortal ruler playthroughs. Battle ends and the other side loses everyone except their champions and I GAIN a small number. I thought it was a display bug. 😜

@llosgfynydd9043

Жыл бұрын

You unknowingly had mastered the technique!

Liechtenstein's strategy be like

Overpowered light cavalry? Suicidally attacking armies that dwarf your own in size? Inexplicably escaping battles with no casualties? Somehow increasing the size of your own army after every battle, presumably by making new friends along the way? Yep, you made a Fire Emblem build.

Mae'r fideo yn wikyd iawn!

@llosgfynydd9043

Жыл бұрын

Diolch!

This should be known as the necromancer build kkkkkk

if you get lucky there is an also event that gives you another -25% I'd say this isn't a viable option, simply because of the unyielding defender trait. Unless someone knows a way to reliably get it after you die because once you die it seems like the party is over. In my playthrough I got attacked by everyone strong around me, then got murdered once I won the defensive wars (they were long and grueling wars) but after being attacked by france and a few strong countries in Iberia, I was murdered, then I had to play my son. I could solidfy my power with the 800 gold coins i got to buy mercenaries which I used to take the titles from my siblings/vassals. But at that point, I'd lost the trait and perks, I had no money/prestiege to do anything unless I afk'd for a few years. So although this strategy seems broken, it takes quite a bit of luck to actually pull off and is quite hard to tell if you will get stack wiped or not. I attack 6k stack with my 1.6k stack I'm fine, but if they had 8k I'd be stack wiped, so isn't entirely reliable unless you're super careful with who you pick fights with (but again due to location you may be put on the defensive)

@llosgfynydd9043

Жыл бұрын

An event. What event? Tell me more!

@MrFriendlyCsgoContent

Жыл бұрын

@@llosgfynydd9043 it's called "practiced hit and run tactics" if I remember correctly

@llosgfynydd9043

Жыл бұрын

Next time then. Thanks

Get stalwart defenders with this build and grind free gold and prestige through defensive wars using disinherited sons as generals, bonus if you acquire making a killing

@llosgfynydd9043

Жыл бұрын

I hadn't considered that. Maybe in another role play. With a character less bloodthirsty

Defeated soldier: oof we lost again but thank god I'm still alive, hey what's my brother who died 8 years ago being trampled by a cow doing in our army!!?? Also what does the cow doing fighting for our army now??

basically scaven lmao

This gets me wondering how far you can push the enemy fatal casualties bonus edit: nvm 7:50

I have so much fun with ck3 but I prefer to play as a Highlander :P

@llosgfynydd9043

Жыл бұрын

There can only be one!!!

It’s the Luxembourg build

@llosgfynydd9043

Жыл бұрын

They do have good healthcare there

A stoic culture with those traits would be better right? I guess Iberia doesn't start with one.

@llosgfynydd9043

Жыл бұрын

Sadly yes. Otherwise this video would have been a lot shorter

Mfw my enemy throws konni at me and everyone dies in retreat anyway

@llosgfynydd9043

Жыл бұрын

Well you would think so. But 60 Caballeros is all you need to negate 100 konni.

not a good idea anymoreto do this in the newest legends of the dead patch since you lose legitimacy after a lost battle

@llosgfynydd9043

2 ай бұрын

Dang. They keep nurfing hit and run tactics. 😭

Wololoo?

@llosgfynydd9043

Жыл бұрын

It is a bit isn't it

How uselessly useful

Never patch this paradox

So, hmm, how do you counter this then? Three ways, that I can think of, I believe. 1) Siege racing. The battles don't matter if you control the territory, and have ticking war score. Of course, it'll be a bitch to prevent them from resieging, but still possible. 2) As pointed out in the video, attrition still takes them. Just lead them on a merry chase. 3) Stack perks similarly to the tactic, but to maximize enemy casualties. While watching, I thought you could just overhwelm them in troops, not caring about losses, but since apparently you don't get war score without enemy casualties, this won't work.

@llosgfynydd9043

Жыл бұрын

You can still stack wipe them. So finish in under 12 days and it really is over.

@wiwersewindemer4437

Жыл бұрын

@@llosgfynydd9043 True, but assuming you're facing off against a decent player, they're unlikely to be running around with levies only, and MaA armies tend to be a bitch to stackwipe.