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  @user-xo5ol4sc3z5 күн бұрын

  Great review! - I know it's a year old so i imagine you have extra value add experience. I am in Perth WA on the CODE. Loving it. I'm looking to buy another whole foil set for my son. I'm looking to mix it up and I see Unifoil riders with a style i really like. Have you tried other brands. I'm almost linking waves but find at 150lb, the CODE 850s is a tad small to pump back out and the 980s is a little too much to control. Any feedback is welcome. Best, Damo

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  @fulcrandlaurens57187 күн бұрын

  Hello and thank you for this review, what volume and size would you recommend for a weight of 163..? Beginner foil drive 🤙

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  @theliftjournal7 күн бұрын

  Hello, To be honest I think it has a lot to do with ability before Foil Drive. Although the 48 liter was amazing for getting up it wasn't as surfy as other boards out there. So I would really think about your ability and what you're using it for. Volume is certainly your friend but more so length is best from what I have experienced and have researched. Example: I used a FD with a 4'4 at 30 liters and could barely keep the nose down to get it to plane. I will have a longer format review of the Foil Drive system soon and then going more into other boards/foils in the future as well. Just ,are sure to subscribe and keep a look out. Thanks for watching, Dave @theliftjournal

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  @stokedforsuccess10014 күн бұрын

  Welcome to the FD fam, homie 😎 🤙

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  @omenfoils17 күн бұрын

  Great breakdown of the gear Dave 🤙

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  @joostgolsteyn319317 күн бұрын

  More than 5000 euros for a battery and a small electric motor 🤔

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  @theliftjournal17 күн бұрын

  It's not for everyone. but its for me

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  @Hdip18 күн бұрын

  How does it go in 36 L?

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  @Glider51718 күн бұрын

  Stoked to see you using the FD to pull into those waves!

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  @theliftjournal17 күн бұрын

  Thank you, it has totally changed my sessions. More time on foil because of the ability to foil a non breaking wave.

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  @stefanfuhrmann-wt3zd18 күн бұрын

  I really like your video. Again one of the most important topics when using Foildrive I think. Which board to use? I think it might help people to save money if they see videos like yours! I've gone through 5boards😅😵‍💫🤑learning on Foildrive. I don't want to sound too smart because you obviously have a great background on Foilsurfing and analysing boards. Let me add from my much reduced horizon in only Foildriving like an addict though😅. I've just recently discovered that length and little rocker beats volume of the board. Yes they do say that in Foildrive videos! 😊And it's true. I could not believe that they were succeding with 30l prone boards. I've coincidentally tried my 2019 Kite Foil Board 4'10" 18.5" 2.5" 30l. And I am soooo stoked how easy it starts and forgiving it is. A bit wider nose. You do however increase the swing weight putting the mast further back..I wanna say. And I skipped the shimming since it would just make the nose climb up to much starting. I tried to get almost as far forward with the mast position as when foiling without Foildrive. If you wanna do more snappy turns...try the Foildrive Slim 15cm cable length. It's like having no Foildrive attached. Pumping gets much better and no swing weight . I thought I needed volume but now I now it's a lot about the rocker, the nose..the volume distribution 😂..as you pointed out in another video. I'm a fan. 😎 Stefan

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  @theliftjournal18 күн бұрын

  All opinions on this subject count and with my two weeks on FD my opinions on boards can change quick. I am looking to get a smaller board with around the same length but less volume. The swing weight side of things is a real tricky one but am going to try to fool around with it more. In my non hybrid foiling my mast is pushed probably a little further back for a little extra snap in turns. But not sure if the same rules apply with attaching a motor and battery. I am going to be working on some tips and tricks with my FD experience including mast placement and trigger use. I appreciate you enjoying the content and much more on the way.

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  @eddiehawley714519 күн бұрын

  Another reference for all of you around the 180 lbs. I use the the next size up on the Omen Flux, the 60L. It has great design characteristics for integration with Foil Drive and is really easy to get on foil and recover from touch downs when on foil. I am 180 lbs, 5'9 and use most of the Axis Spitfire wings in surf/wave conditions.

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  @theliftjournal19 күн бұрын

  Thanks for chiming in.

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  @stefanfuhrmann-wt3zd22 күн бұрын

  I really think this is a far too less talked about topic! It for sure took a lot of testing! May I add that I feel wider noses create more swing weight, but get on a plane very well. A narrower nose and tail give more control in higher speed. With a narrower nose you can get more pressure on the inside frontwing's tip..which is so nice bottom turning. 🤝

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  @theliftjournal21 күн бұрын

  @@stefanfuhrmann-wt3zd thanks so much and I agree with everything you also stated. I personally am starting to actually like the slightly wider outline but I think it’s because of the stability when taking off.

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  @stefanfuhrmann-wt3zd21 күн бұрын

  @theliftjournal I like your observations on the effect of outline, and volume distribution. I don't know if it's too far out there...but I'd even think you feel more rocker, even if the board is flying but it seems to make it more snappy in waves, even on foil. As does, in my eyes the more rounded outline. ?! Must be killer in up to head high waves👌. Keep up your good work! Thank you

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  @fluiditynzАй бұрын

  It looks a lot like the F-one SK8 only maybe thinner and not in so many sizes. And they both look a lot like my own design. Only after making it and riding it I found a lot of similar plan form foils. I know why the sweep back, there's a few good reasons that work even better with smaller foils for people who are more experienced. The reviews of the Omen Operator, the F-one SK8 and my own feelings on my latest design all share that the wing is smooth through turbulence and great in gybes. This outline with the tapered chord tips, the 7.8 to 8 aspect ratio gives a lot of agility but also that glide potential when paired with a thinner chord. Mine has pointier tips and likely thinner tips than both the Omen operator and the SK8. I think the SK8 is possibly only chord scaled for it's thickness, my one has extra progressive thinning further out and I did mine all in low modulus carbon, that flex is what gives it smoothness through the gybes and turbulence. I think the SK8 uses internal glass fibre, that will give flex even if the chord is thicker. Omen Operator is reputed to be very thin and high modulus. There's no doubt in my mind that there are a group of us designers who are on to something special with these late generation foils.

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  @apricotscrubАй бұрын

  looking really good on your surfing and especially foam hits, making it look effortless.

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  @theliftjournalАй бұрын

  @@apricotscrub appreciate that

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  @hhhancock167Ай бұрын

  Nice video. That board looks sweet and as you said you are not giving it back. I think you will be even more pumped about your Foil Drive. You will be catching 10x more waves on your Omen with a FD and be less tired. It's the best hack machine out there. You do a really nice job with your videos and I also think your number of views and subscribers will easily double if you start creating content with FD. There's many of us that want to learn more tips and tricks to prone foiling and downwinding with a FD. I think your surfing background plus your prone foiling skills will allow you to create some really good FD content.

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  @theliftjournalАй бұрын

  @@hhhancock167 word up my friend. That’s the plan. Just stoked on foiling.

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  @svenbugg9406Ай бұрын

  So whats the difference between this board and your 1. one from Amstrong...!??

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  @theliftjournalАй бұрын

  @@svenbugg9406 good question. I haven’t had that board for a while. But from what I do recall about the FG by Armstrong was I think the Widepoint is different. Different bottom and about 9 liters as well.

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  @HdipАй бұрын

  You’re going to end up with every size of flux. Can’t wait til you start sup paddling. I rarely prone anymore.

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  @theliftjournalАй бұрын

  @@Hdip I have an alternative to SUP on the way.

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  @JPPBOXАй бұрын

  @@theliftjournal hand paddles?

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  @theliftjournalАй бұрын

  @@JPPBOX haha. Not hand paddles. But have some web gloves. Was thinking of doing a little review of them if interested

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  @JPPBOXАй бұрын

  @@theliftjournal do it! Full paddle up footy!

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  @youdigsurfАй бұрын

  i have started analyzing tail rocker of the boards , duotone and gong are flat, seems afs are flat too i"ve seen a guy on a sls downwinder and a afs silk , fone got a 0.95 degree fw , i wonder if you could check on your boards ? i dont know why i keep buying setup that are no compatible with each other and have to shim the topplate . i've seen surfoiler with cool setup badly tuned they still manage ! it's very awkward to lean back to surf foil really shitty i will even say. 🤙yeww

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  @theliftjournalАй бұрын

  @@youdigsurf The Omen Flux is flat so you can use a baseplate shim only to change performance.

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  @youdigsurfАй бұрын

  @@theliftjournal good to know which mean the omen foil can be used on flat board too !

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  @theliftjournalАй бұрын

  @@youdigsurf correct

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  @billyfeamster1899Ай бұрын

  Thanks man! I haven't tried swimming but now understand the effects of positive or negative and why to choose one or another.

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  @wouterdobbelaereАй бұрын

  What is the difference in angle of front and back foil without shim? (or 0° shim) I'm expecting that the "+" shim increases the angle, and the "-" shim decreases the angle. Not that the "-" indicates a negative angle between front and back foil...

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  @theliftjournalАй бұрын

  Omen is pretty neutral at 0 but every brand has their own stock preference whether it be more front foot or back foot. Also keep in mind some prone boards have angle built into the board. With that you can either keep it as is or base plate shim. I will be doing a baseplate shim video as well.

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  @youdigsurfАй бұрын

  it's all compromise, i tried without top plate shim on my crappy setup and it was unrideable and i rided like that few month board dropping instantly if i dont lean back, now i found the right setup and it's so much more confortable to have front foot, im full forward on my setup there is not other choice. i used a fone wing rocket-s to surf foil recently had to move it a little bit forward to improve take off as i was missing a lot of wave, take off was good but front foot was too huge ! it's not easy to find the right setup ! btw now let try a top plate shim tutorial haha 😅

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  @theliftjournalАй бұрын

  @@youdigsurf it’s also to let people know that if they have a hard time getting on foil to shim positive and if they are getting over foiled then shim negative. Also and I am not sure I explained it what I mean is if you are at 2.5 positive when I say shim negative I don’t mean to go to a negative shim. I mean lower the angle to a positive 1. Changing the angle too much will not be a Fun experience

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  @Glider517Ай бұрын

  Love this Dave! Great insight from a surf perspective

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  @theliftjournalАй бұрын

  Thank you. I appreciate that

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  @FoiljourneyАй бұрын

  awesome, well-constructed commentary

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  @theliftjournalАй бұрын

  @@Foiljourney thanks so much

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  @karimodriscoll3209Ай бұрын

  Any reason for not using a leash?

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  @theliftjournalАй бұрын

  @@karimodriscoll3209 that’s a fair question. If there is no one out and I am sticking in an inhabited area I usually won’t wear a leash because I have gotten hit more times without one.

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  @PhilipKlawitterАй бұрын

  Great content, lots of insights. Keep 'em coming 🙌

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  @theliftjournalАй бұрын

  @@PhilipKlawitter appreciate that.

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  @youdigsurf2 ай бұрын

  I think you tried to make a short but it’s was too long 07 sec too long 😅 happy to see yoy come back !

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  @theliftjournal2 ай бұрын

  You are correct haha.

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  @andycummins70302 ай бұрын

  Good review, I like the garage chat/water footage! 🤙🏼🤙🏼

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  @punchleasure2 ай бұрын

  The first half of the video makes a lot of sense to me and is very helpful. I got lost at about 4:08. How does the narrowness of the planing area influence responsiveness and front foot/back foot pressure? Once you’re on foil, other than touching down or clearance in turns, it seems like bottom contour is irrelevant. Thanks in advance for explaining this in more detail!

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  @theliftjournal2 ай бұрын

  Ya. So I am talking about the narrow outline. Not the narrow bottom or planning area.

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  @theliftjournal2 ай бұрын

  But with that said I do think that narrower touchdown points do have a little different feeling in pump. Technically although the volume might be the same the volume is more under your feet and not to the sides of the board.

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  @o0JUJU0o403 ай бұрын

  Amazing ride and progression! Where are you located in NJ?

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  @theliftjournal3 ай бұрын

  I am in the Asbury Park area

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  @o0JUJU0o403 ай бұрын

  Oh nice, I am in NY and surf NY/NJ area. Started foiling 3 years ago but my progression is nowhere near yours. On a Axis gear, would love to try the Uni 140 as they do an Uni/Axis adapter

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  @fluiditynz3 ай бұрын

  It looks a bit like the latest Omen. They are both thin. This one has a little more sweep back at the ends and also the anhedral weakens closer in from the tips in this one. I have my own design finishing up on the 3D printer and it's slightly closer to this one except I have more anhedral curve in the middle and thinner tips at a different angle. All planforms that should shred. I was surprised how much forward of the mast this is though, it makes it more turn resistant.

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  @snowpigpow3 ай бұрын

  Chimes make gentle noises in the wind, chines are angles on hulls of boats and boards

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  @schulzaboy774 ай бұрын

  Love the video! What advice do you have for an eFoiler looking to branch into the prone foil discipline? Would you recommend starting behind the boat first? I currently ride a 4’2 lift pro.

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  @theliftjournal3 ай бұрын

  Hey sorry for the holdup. So if you feel really comfortable on the e foil to the point that you want to start getting into swell I would just do that. Are you using the boat to tow into little waves or do you mean using the boat to learn a smaller board? If you’re just looking to get used to a smaller board without assist I think you can just jump in the ocean. My personal issue with tow as far as learning is that all the power is now in front of you so your pressure is kinda weird.

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  @schulzaboy773 ай бұрын

  @@theliftjournal Thanks for replying! I mean using a jetski/boat to learn how to ride a traditional hydrofoil first. My ultimate goal is to branch into prone foiling at the beach on a regular hydrofoil. I feel like the biggest challenge will be the fact that you aren’t directly controlling the power output with a controller, but must adjust your riding to the power put out by a vehicle/waves

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  @theliftjournal3 ай бұрын

  @@schulzaboy77 so time on foil is important and a boat can help 100 percent. But if you want to learn to prone foil the hardest part is the pop up and you’re not going to learn that on a boat. So again if you feel comfortable on foil in general I would just jump in the water on a small day and just get those motor functions down. I grew up surfing and also had wakeboarding as well. But if I didn’t know how to wakeboard I don’t think I would have been able to figure out foiling behind a boat. Again all the power is now in front of you so you’re holding onto the power in stead of having the power behind you. Hence e foil and or swell powered. Please keep in mind. These are just opinions and I have a very strong surf background. So prone foiling was actually easier to me than getting towed.

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  @DannyCruzCreations4 ай бұрын

  Awesome review. What's your weight? I'm shopping for a hybrid prone/wing board in the 45L-50L range for 83kg/185 lbs or so. I normally wing an Appletree Jazz 60L and my prone board is an Appletree Pro Foil V2, but I'm struggling a bit a 37L with with. I want a bit more foam. I wish the rear strap inserts weren't offset like this. I like the idea, but I ride switch a lot, so having a straight strap at the back is kinda important to me. @omenfoils

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  @theliftjournal3 ай бұрын

  Hey Danny, Sorry for the delayed response. I am in the 140 range in a suit. I have no winging background but prone is more of my thing. With that said the flux is a mix of both. I personally love it as a prone board and have been told it lifts out of the water on wing super easy. They are nice because they are on the narrower side so more sensitive when attacking on turns.

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  @zachlerdahl81154 ай бұрын

  I love the editing that went into this! Very well executed!

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  @theliftjournal4 ай бұрын

  Appreciate that.

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  @Foiljourney4 ай бұрын

  Go Dave!💥🤙

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  @theliftjournal4 ай бұрын

  Next Year Chicama!!

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  @henryhester18975 ай бұрын

  Dark shirt and shorts hide the wing shapes and contours. Just suggesting 7:39 7:41

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  @brianreilly87995 ай бұрын

  Very cool foil system. Definitely interested in trying one of these

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  @theliftjournal5 ай бұрын

  It's really good. If your in New Jersey I might have a demo soon

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  @christophercurran46415 ай бұрын

  Love the 850. Easy to ride, rips turns and fast! Great review!

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  @theliftjournal5 ай бұрын

  Thanks! 👍

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  @hondahardy2275 ай бұрын

  Just a heads up the audio is extremely low volume.

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  @theliftjournal5 ай бұрын

  Thank you. I unfortunately had to export it like that because my mic volume was all weird.

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  @hondahardy2275 ай бұрын

  @@theliftjournal I am Watching back on my iPhone and everything seems much better than on my computer. 👌

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  @edjunquet5 ай бұрын

  Awesome review!!

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  @kovz9105 ай бұрын

  Really enjoying going through your videos from the start. What Unifoil setup (mast, wing, fuse, tail) would you recommend getting into prone? I am a midlength surfer, love winging in waves so have foil experience, and weigh 145lbs. Live in Wilmington NC. Thanks!

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  @theliftjournal5 ай бұрын

  Hey Andrew, So I think depending on your weight and overall skill level will let you know where to be. But as far as getting into prone either the 140 or 170 is fantastic. Very forgiving in pump and fast enough to connect waves. For me at 135-140 I really liked the 140 as my goto at the time I was riding unifoil. It’s faster than the 170. But the 170 does have a very forgiving low end that can’t be beat. I have since moved on to another foil brand called Omen and they are a completely different feel than Uni. But I will say that if you want to concentrate on prone and flying without the power of the wing the Progression 140 is amazing. Hope this helps and feel free to reach back out for any info. I have since progressed from this video date and have a 140 “review” video in the series.

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  @123benjah5 ай бұрын

  yah.. just started to learn to wing in Thailand. humbling for sure... been surfing for 30 years.. .suping for 7.... humbled... but excited to keep going!

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  @markgransbury83776 ай бұрын

  Hi great comparison. If possible could you confirm the distance from the tail to the kick pad?

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  @IndonesianCall6 ай бұрын

  In other words workout get in shape right ride a narrow board 🤙🏽🍍🤓

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  @theliftjournal6 ай бұрын

  I think it’s a mix of fitness, personal preference, but also what your local waves are like. For me personally I love the width of a wide board when getting up. But like the narrowness when it’s up on foil. But since this video I have also started to dabble in a touch of an offset stance. Which I don’t know if it would work with a more narrow tail. Anyway. Hope you enjoyed the video and thank you for the support.

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  @markgransbury83776 ай бұрын

  Hi came across your channel and I’m beginning my foil journey. What is the technique to pop up on such a small board…I’m 6 3 will that be a problem?

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  @markgransbury83776 ай бұрын

  When popping up do you put your rear foot on the back of the board chicken wing style?

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  @theliftjournal6 ай бұрын

  So i think i go front foot first then back foot. But I think i need to start going back foot then front foot.

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  @markgransbury83776 ай бұрын

  Could you do a short vid from a side view showing your pop up?

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  @markgransbury83776 ай бұрын

  I’m 6 3 and not sure how easy to pop up on theses short boards

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  @omenfoils6 ай бұрын

  Love it Dave! Stoked you're digging Flux and really enjoyed following your tuning progression!

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  @theliftjournal6 ай бұрын

  More to come !

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  @DannyCruzCreations4 ай бұрын

  Hi, please check my comment above. Thanks.

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  @musmma6 ай бұрын

  I'm the opposite. I can wing all day but I can't prone foil to save my life. The popup is impossible for me. Wing progression should be fast once you get up and build the muscles needed.

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  @youdigsurf8 ай бұрын

  interesting review !

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  @Florida_Foil_Frothers8 ай бұрын

  Great break out comparing the 2 different shapes!

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  @omenfoils8 ай бұрын

  Smooth looking turns Dave!

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  @theliftjournal8 ай бұрын

  Thanks Greg

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  @Hdip8 ай бұрын

  The sweatshirt tease!!!

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  @Foiljourney8 ай бұрын

  Excellent analysis!! Makes total sense. I found similar challenges when I went to my more narrow board - but lots of the benefits you highlighted.

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  @theliftjournal8 ай бұрын

  It’s all about when and where to use all these different options.