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Jactor

Hello my name is Joe and I am a fan of vintage Tractors and Machinery

Ford 8N PTO Seal Replacement

Ford 8N PTO Seal Replacement

I Bought A Ford 2N Tractor

I Bought A Ford 2N Tractor

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  • @anthonypiper4263
    @anthonypiper426315 күн бұрын

    Heck with the "negative waves". Good video. I enjoyed it!

  • @jactor7274
    @jactor727414 күн бұрын

    Thanks! I appreciate it

  • @bryantn.faulkner5790
    @bryantn.faulkner579016 күн бұрын

    Acorn nut had to be loosened first!

  • @richardgreen7811
    @richardgreen7811Ай бұрын

    IMPORTANT - IMPORTANT - IMPORTANT I have operated countless hours and had many experiences with the Ford 8N using several implements. The bush-hog is obviously the most dangerous. While with general improvements and maintenance, that bush-hog you bought will give you great service. My issues fall in two categories: #1. Tractor/Bush-Hog combination. The Ford 8N has a "non-live PTO". What does that mean ? It means when you connect the bush-hog, recognize that it spins a very heavy mass at high speed thereby generating enormous energy that can't be stopped like a flail mower. When you are mowing and push in the clutch, the energy remains in effect and is directly connected to the engines crankshaft. That means regardless if you apply the clutch, the power-train will continue until the energy is dissipated. Simply stated ... if you're mowing and come to a fence or building, the energy stored in the blades will push the tractor (and you) through the fence or building. REMEDY: Go to Tractor Supply and buy (not expensive) a "PTO over-running clutch adapter". This allows the bush-hog blades to continue spinning with no effect on the power-train. It can save your life. And yes ... when you let out the clutch the power-train and blades will become recoupled and continue mowing. #2. Blade Sharpening: Find a mentor that you trust to advise you. For me ... I would remove the blades and note the gash deviations for depth while holding the blades together. Draw a line from the blade tip back to the bevel to include the gash depth on both blades (treating them as one blade). Grind the edged portion flat (the same amount and same angle on both blades) to a point where the gashes are gone. When the blades match in shape, apply a grind to provide an edge, making sure to have the beveled edge the same on both blades. What you're doing here is creating a matched mass on both sides. Because the center hub is normally concentric, having the blades match in mass will give you the best chance of a balanced turning mass. Safe operating my friend.

  • @jactor7274
    @jactor7274Ай бұрын

    Thanks for your comment. I’m not at all concerned about using the mower without an over running clutch I have operated these old tractors from a young age mainly Fergusons also without over running clutches. I just know when I need to stop. I also do own an over running clutch but I have had bad experience with them disintegrating the roll pin there for coming loose and hitting the pto shaft housing. I would recommend an over running clutch for anyone new to these machines and with this setup. Personally I would never use one again

  • @316jd140
    @316jd140Ай бұрын

    Good job on the tilling. I love your old Ford Jubilee. I have a few old Ford tractors myself, including a '53 Jubilee.

  • @jactor7274
    @jactor7274Ай бұрын

    Thank you! I love the old ford tractors I plan on buying many more. Definitely would rather an old ford over the new stuff

  • @benkanobe7500
    @benkanobe7500Ай бұрын

    Why not soak the leather piston ring in hydraulic fluid instead of water considering that is what it seals? Does it say to use water an not hydrofluid?

  • @jactor7274
    @jactor7274Ай бұрын

    Just an old guy I know told me to use water I guess people do different things

  • @benkanobe7500
    @benkanobe7500Ай бұрын

    @@jactor7274 listen to Old Guys.

  • @benkanobe7500
    @benkanobe7500Ай бұрын

    More questions from me I hope you will answer. I have the same tractor now. My PTO shaft had a troubled life. Its toast! I have a complete new shaft assembly with the larger size splines to make it more current. My PTO Lever is very, very stiff to operate. I can engage my PTO and it works (put the splines are toast so I can not use it as is), but disengagement takes a very hard pull and my lever just reaches 12:00 O'Clock position and does not cant towards the front of the tractor like it shows in the manual. My question: Can I remove the PTO lever/cover assembly like it shows yours removed in the beginning of this KZread? I want to see in there to make sure I can get the old PTO shaft out and hopefully it isn't stuck or bent. It does not vibrate and spins correctly even though the splines are all bent (rear). I was hoping I could gain some advantage by removing the lever and cover assembly that could help me remove the old shaft assembly. Your thoughts and advice please?

  • @jactor7274
    @jactor7274Ай бұрын

    Yes you can remove the pto lever cover and the lever is all attached to the cover it’s very simple. Then you can take a peek inside. Make sure you don’t spill any fluids out the cover though lol. But the pto shaft should easily slide out once you unbolt those 4 bolts on the back of the pto

  • @benkanobe7500
    @benkanobe7500Ай бұрын

    @@jactor7274 Thank you. I was so hoping that was true. I really appreciate you sharing what you have learned and know. I am following right behind what you have done on your tractor on mine. I am blessed to have you doing it all before me. I am amazed at what you have taken on and what a great and quality job you are doing.

  • @jactor7274
    @jactor7274Ай бұрын

    @benkanobe7500 thank you!

  • @benkanobe7500
    @benkanobe7500Ай бұрын

    So to fill the differential, you put the fluid in the transmission and it finds its way all the way back to the differential??

  • @jactor7274
    @jactor7274Ай бұрын

    Yes correct on the 2N,9N and 8N the transmission shares the oil with the rear end

  • @benkanobe7500
    @benkanobe7500Ай бұрын

    Do you have the PTO lever in the engaged or disengaged position when reinstalling the PTO shaft? I am doing mine tomorrow. Thanks!

  • @jactor7274
    @jactor7274Ай бұрын

    Pretty sure I had mine disengaged

  • @benkanobe7500
    @benkanobe75002 ай бұрын

    Did you replace your Oil Pressure gauge? If so, where did you get it? I have the original one that came with my tractor, but the line is leaking really bad behind the Hydraulic pump (the oil pressure line).

  • @jactor7274
    @jactor72742 ай бұрын

    Yes I just got mine from Steiner tractor parts

  • @benkanobe7500
    @benkanobe75002 ай бұрын

    The picture is spectacular!

  • @benkanobe7500
    @benkanobe75002 ай бұрын

    Is the valve cover vent on your tractor clogged as that could cause over pressure of the crank case and the leaks you pointed out. I suspect you have already done the head gasket. But if not, two things often work: 1.) Just repeat the head torque sequence and add 5ftlb to the final torque, and 2.). "K-Seal". It is snake oil that works. I used on my Son's Mazda RX-8 Rotary Engine with blown internal coolant seals, and on my 1996 GMC 3/4 Ton 4x4 7.5 Liter, Suburban with 227,000.00 miles on it. The Mazda was blowing white smoke from water in the chambers and everyone said it was dead. It has 37,000.00 more miles on it now and has never had a problem. The Suburbans with 454/7.5 Liters tend to blow head or intake manifold gaskets over 170,000.0 miles. Mine started loosing water and smelled like coolant when parked. I was adding at least 2 quarts of water a day. I put in K-Seal and its been about 12,000.0 miles and I haven't added a drop of coolant since putting in the K-Seal. The stuff works!

  • @jactor7274
    @jactor72742 ай бұрын

    Oh ok thanks for the info! I actually changed out the valve cover vent so it’s not likely that. But I eventually will rebuild the engine so I’m not too worried about it for now

  • @benkanobe7500
    @benkanobe75002 ай бұрын

    I really enjoy watching you work and like that you are humble and don't try and make yourself out to be something your are not with clever edits and such. By keeping it real, it is much easier to learn from you. Thank you.

  • @jactor7274
    @jactor72742 ай бұрын

    Thanks I appreciate it. I’m just trying to learn as I go

  • @benkanobe7500
    @benkanobe75002 ай бұрын

    How many bolts per side does it take to remove the hood assembly like you did? I have not investigated mine. The previous owner told me I can pivot the assembly forward on the two bolts at the bottom of the grill that you removed. Is that true? Please pardon my dumb questions. I did not grow up with tractors or on a farm and my old Jubilee is the first tractor I ever owned (I'm 67 years old). I just got it running and now want to make the improvements and restorations you have as I have someone to follow. I have lived on 2 acres for the past 45 years and have maintained it with a John Deere 317 and just recently for fun purchased an outstanding John Deere 140 with all implements. So I know Garden Tractors, but nothing about real tractors or 3 points. I have another dumb question: What is the mason jar elbow extension that I see sometimes sticking out from where the air filter grill is on the left side of the hood? Why do some people have that on their tractor and others don't? What does it do? Thank you.

  • @jactor7274
    @jactor72742 ай бұрын

    That’s all good these are very good questions. Yes you can flip the hood up with the 2 bolts left in but I find that the hood is super flimsy so I just take it right off. There’s the bolts at the front and there’s bolts around the dash cluster. The mason jar you mentioned came on some models as a feature it would collect chaff to stop it going into the air filter system

  • @benkanobe7500
    @benkanobe75002 ай бұрын

    How did you remove the large lower bearing race from the base of the steering tube?

  • @jactor7274
    @jactor72742 ай бұрын

    I actually don’t think I did since the bearing looked in good condition like new almost. My guess is someone once rebuilt mine before. Sorry that doesn’t help much

  • @benkanobe7500
    @benkanobe75002 ай бұрын

    @@jactor7274 Yes. You did as others here on YT have done: You left the bearing race at the very bottom of the steering gear case in because it is at the very bottom and always still gets lubricant and so does not deteriorate like the other bearings higher up. You did (said you did and showed it in the video) replace but not show how the large bearing race at the bottom of the steering column tube. That is difficult because unlike a wheel bearing there is not cut out behind the bearing seat to put a drift and drift out the race. So I was wondering how you removed it from the blind hole it is in at the bottom of the steering shaft tube. Mine is toast and needs to be replaced. Thank you for your responses and excellent videos. I have learned a great deal from you.

  • @jactor7274
    @jactor72742 ай бұрын

    Oh ok yes I have a special bearing race puller it’s like an angled hook and I was able to get it in down there but it was a struggle

  • @benkanobe7500
    @benkanobe75002 ай бұрын

    Who do you use for parts sources like for bearings and gaskets, O-Rings and how do you know how to get the correct sizes? Thanks!

  • @jactor7274
    @jactor72742 ай бұрын

    Mostly I use Steiner tractor parts, my local new holland dealership, fixthatford.com. For bearings I usually go to my local bearing /machine shop they are able to match the part numbers. O rings I just buy them in bulk from Amazon and just match them up

  • @jameslester3861
    @jameslester38612 ай бұрын

    The transmission on 9N,2N, and 8N use the same oil for trans, hydraulic, and rear end. 80-W90 gear oil.

  • @jactor7274
    @jactor72742 ай бұрын

    Yes they do

  • @benkanobe7500
    @benkanobe75002 ай бұрын

    What color and brand paint did you use for the Red Color?

  • @jactor7274
    @jactor72742 ай бұрын

    Ford red. I got it from my local new holland dealer

  • @benkanobe7500
    @benkanobe75002 ай бұрын

    @@jactor7274 Thank you. I appreciate it

  • @jjay718
    @jjay7183 ай бұрын

    Your tractor is super clean inside!

  • @jactor7274
    @jactor72742 ай бұрын

    Thanks 👍

  • @SCfanIam100
    @SCfanIam1003 ай бұрын

    Looks like fun. I have an 8N and I remember when I was small that my grandad farmed with one too in the 50's.

  • @jactor7274
    @jactor72742 ай бұрын

    Awesome! I love these old tractors

  • @bigbuck2720
    @bigbuck27203 ай бұрын

    To all you saying ton get a overrun clutch its not a 9n 2n or 8n tractor, the mower will not push this model tractor, also they make a special pin for that mower that fits where you got those cheap bolts, they're like 7/8"

  • @jactor7274
    @jactor72742 ай бұрын

    Thanks

  • @piezasdeltiempo
    @piezasdeltiempo4 ай бұрын

    You dont know how Hard its to re assamble the splited tractor on the grass, not on a solid ground, great job by the way!!

  • @jactor7274
    @jactor72743 ай бұрын

    Yes it is quite a difficult job especially outside lol. Thanks!!

  • @jerryf609
    @jerryf6095 ай бұрын

    Nice job. I recently did the same. Just watched to see if I missed anything. I guess not. Thanks.

  • @jactor7274
    @jactor72745 ай бұрын

    No problem happy that the vid helped

  • @johnwallacemcclure1143
    @johnwallacemcclure11435 ай бұрын

    Most of us don't have a press.

  • @jactor7274
    @jactor72743 ай бұрын

    You can use seal drivers or a socket

  • @NewRiverRepair
    @NewRiverRepair6 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the video Sir. Its good to see the the steps to resolve a very annoying and common problem

  • @jactor7274
    @jactor72745 ай бұрын

    You are welcome!

  • @edbarskite2730
    @edbarskite27307 ай бұрын

    JUST BOUGHT A FORD JUBILEE,, TO BRUSH HOG OUR LOWER FEILDS,, IT CAME WITH A DEUTZ ALLIS,, FIVE FT THREE BLADE ,,

  • @jactor7274
    @jactor72747 ай бұрын

    Awesome! Good deal

  • @michaeljackson7361
    @michaeljackson73617 ай бұрын

    Great job on the video, thanks bro

  • @jactor7274
    @jactor72747 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @manuallabor7193
    @manuallabor71937 ай бұрын

    Great purchase best luck in the future.

  • @jactor7274
    @jactor72747 ай бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @General-kh3lc
    @General-kh3lc8 ай бұрын

    So, our seal looks fine. But the lower plate loos like it's leaking. I have the bolts out, but the plate seems stuck? Any advice would be helpful, even knowing what to expect behind it!

  • @jactor7274
    @jactor72748 ай бұрын

    If you mean the lower plate inside the bell housing, I’m pretty sure that it holds the bearing and clip for the gears. Maybe try looking up a manual for that. I never went in behind that plate so I’m not sure what to expect but from my experience so far I would research before opening it up.

  • @General-kh3lc
    @General-kh3lc8 ай бұрын

    @@jactor7274 thank you!

  • @jactor7274
    @jactor72748 ай бұрын

    @General-kh3lc you are welcome

  • @realmongo7565
    @realmongo75658 ай бұрын

    My Jubilee is leaking on the left side, but my 8N was leaking on the right before I fixed it.

  • @jactor7274
    @jactor72748 ай бұрын

    Wow. Crazy how many other people have this same leak. So many years or those arms hanging off there I guess lol

  • @Matt-nk2fo
    @Matt-nk2fo8 ай бұрын

    Nice video lets you know what you are getting into.

  • @jactor7274
    @jactor72748 ай бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @tedmatema6848
    @tedmatema68489 ай бұрын

    Poo video doesnt show when you putting everything together

  • @jayarmitage9609
    @jayarmitage960911 ай бұрын

    I'm running a Ferguson TO 20 tractor and I want to get a brush hog. What is your HP rating and what's the width of your mower?

  • @jactor7274
    @jactor727411 ай бұрын

    A Ferguson to 20 will have no problem running a 6 foot mower. My grandpa runs his tea 20 with a 6 foot. My jubilee is around 30hp and I’m running a 6 foot mower. Hope this helped you!

  • @philliphall5198
    @philliphall519811 ай бұрын

    Love the smell of it when it first started cold 😊

  • @jactor7274
    @jactor727411 ай бұрын

    Smells great

  • @philliphall5198
    @philliphall519811 ай бұрын

    Once had one and gear box was junk No parts

  • @jactor7274
    @jactor727411 ай бұрын

    Yeah I can’t find any parts on these

  • @ronaldgarvie9661
    @ronaldgarvie966111 ай бұрын

    Dont listen the the morons, your doing a fine job, keep it up.

  • @jactor7274
    @jactor727411 ай бұрын

    Thanks!!

  • @maurymiller5400
    @maurymiller540011 ай бұрын

    Great purchase, but you may want to invest in a air impact in the near future.

  • @jactor7274
    @jactor727411 ай бұрын

    Thanks! Yes a new air impact is definitely a must

  • @houstonfirefox
    @houstonfirefox11 ай бұрын

    New Sub! Love to see honest people doing honest work to bring the old things back to life. That mower was run Hard but with the work you do with it, it'll last a lifetime. Try and get an inexpensive MIG welder - it will up your metalworking/fixit game to a whole new level! Keep up the great work!

  • @jactor7274
    @jactor727411 ай бұрын

    Thanks! I’m happy you’re enjoying my videos.

  • @lvlndco
    @lvlndco11 ай бұрын

    Can you run a tap in the gear box holes and put in a next size up bolt?

  • @jactor7274
    @jactor727411 ай бұрын

    Actually yes that’s a great idea. I will try that next before doing anything I can’t undo

  • @jimmybland6519
    @jimmybland651911 ай бұрын

    If you wonder why most bush hogs are curved at the back corners you will find out when you are following a fence and come to a corner. I had a square Ford bush hog and got in a corner and almost got into the wire trying to get out.

  • @jactor7274
    @jactor727411 ай бұрын

    I have actually done this before lol getting stuck up against fence lines is an easy thing to do and kinda difficult to get out of

  • @fredhart7904
    @fredhart790411 ай бұрын

    Also need to loosen the slip clutch be sure it’s not rusted frozen solid, If you hit something hard it must slip or you could tear up your tractor pto shaft

  • @jactor7274
    @jactor727411 ай бұрын

    Ok thanks for the info I’ll look into it

  • @fredhart7904
    @fredhart790411 ай бұрын

    You need to buy a boom pole for that tractor, lifting stuff You wind up hurting that beautiful girls back and you will be sorry for ever, Nice old cutter,

  • @jactor7274
    @jactor727411 ай бұрын

    Thanks! Yes I need to find a better way of living for sure

  • @rodcros
    @rodcros11 ай бұрын

    Old gray tractors often did not have a two-stage clutch. That is, the power take off rotates as well as the axle if it is in gear. When you press the clutch, the one slows at the same speed as the other. Try to avoid running it through a garage door. In my case I parked my Ferguson on top of a boulder by the time I got the thing slowed down. An inexpensive over-running clutch attaches just ahead of the mower's pto shaft, and takes care of the problem.

  • @jactor7274
    @jactor727411 ай бұрын

    Haha yes I have heard stories of people running their tractors into and through things. I do actually have a over running clutch which I will use if I do some big mowing

  • @NCDude-hg3no
    @NCDude-hg3no11 ай бұрын

    It would be best going forward if you had something to replace the two of you lifting and lowering. Too much chance of getting hurt. Have been there and done that also, I enjoyed your video.

  • @jactor7274
    @jactor727411 ай бұрын

    Thank you! I’m glad that you enjoyed my video. And yes that was not the best idea to lift the mower but it’s the best I could do. Hopefully in future I will have a shop with a crane of some sort

  • @jimrerko3415
    @jimrerko341511 ай бұрын

    Only the top edge. Not real sharp, if it hits something it will chip the blade.

  • @jactor7274
    @jactor727411 ай бұрын

    Ok thanks!

  • @apoxrox
    @apoxrox11 ай бұрын

    Some advice for someone who's owned that. Sell that toy tractor and mower and buy a zero turn. You can thank me later.

  • @mjlaramore
    @mjlaramore4 ай бұрын

    Zero turn will beat you to death and is supremely overrated.

  • @bertsmith1682
    @bertsmith168211 ай бұрын

    use the breaker bar for loosening tight bolts - not the wrench . dont overfill the gear box - has a tendency to make the seals leak. those blades are worn out, plus usually dont get sharpened. You'll catch on to all this - just takes experience - keep at it and you'll do great

  • @jactor7274
    @jactor727411 ай бұрын

    Thank you! In future I will use the breaker bar for what it is intended for lol. And yes I have learnt a lot since starting this channel

  • @jamesbyrne2004
    @jamesbyrne200411 ай бұрын

    Don't grind the bottom, you also need both blades to be balanced. If the bolts are rusted, just grind off the bolt head and punch it out. Replace with stainless steel ones. Cheers.

  • @jactor7274
    @jactor727411 ай бұрын

    Ok great thanks for the info

  • @donweeks5290
    @donweeks529011 ай бұрын

    GREAT CLIP BROTHER. THANKS FOR SHARING AND KEEP THOSE VIDEOS COMING.!

  • @jactor7274
    @jactor727411 ай бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @donpugh6863
    @donpugh686311 ай бұрын

    Do not grind the bottom.. Free up your blade, oil it, and tighten it back up.

  • @jactor7274
    @jactor727411 ай бұрын

    Thanks

  • @nick-dm3if
    @nick-dm3if11 ай бұрын

    Man you will get more views as you go along and more subscribers will naturally come, farm channels always get a ton because you live a life most of them could only dream of. Keep going you could be the next cole the cornstar.

  • @jactor7274
    @jactor727411 ай бұрын

    Thank you for the comment. I like it that people enjoy watching my videos!