Might just be me but I really do not like the new "cosmic void" effects, the shadowy purple look always spoke to me but now I feel like most of the cool abilities are now replaced with the newer sparkly blue cosmic stuff and it just looks super weird to me. I wish they had just kept the ability's looks and just updated the core flow of the spec.
@andreanthony8451Күн бұрын
Uncapped aoe please :)
@azzaahhYT2 күн бұрын
remove mindspike
@konstiantynniziienko30822 күн бұрын
How to damage aoe when the pack is more than 8 mobs? Shadow crash is only for 8 mobs
@Elbereth_TV2 күн бұрын
what shadow really needs is a On-Death dot transfer, so many times your SC just trolls you and hits some random bozo mobs and none of the big boys xD
@terrancepage91632 күн бұрын
the GCD factors dont matter because nobody is running around with 0% haste lol
@romanchaykovskiy35343 күн бұрын
Happy they removed mindgames. Spriest has too many buttons to press, rotation is absolute mess in DF. Hopefully one day we'll get rid of shadow crash as well.
@gaybloopy3 күн бұрын
Love u publik
@anthonysteinerv3 күн бұрын
I would shoot myself before playing pet spec once again.
@Cleocatraa_5 күн бұрын
I’m a rogue main but with how rogue is kinda feeling in tww I have been playing spriest more and more recently and it’s been the most fun I have had in a long time. I’m so grateful to find your channel to learn this spec !
@nater2585 күн бұрын
The new ability seems amazing. In WoW lore, shadow is given a the nickname void. Idk if that’s a valid nitpick.
@azzaahhYT6 күн бұрын
im not fucking playing dark ascension that shit sucks ass, im playing void form, im a VOIDWEAVER
@wk79966 күн бұрын
@Publik Help me out brotha. Was there any actual changes to our spell animations to make them look cooler? I can't figure it out anywhere! Please and thank you have a good day!!
@silasrobertshaw81226 күн бұрын
As a classic player since it released i was looking for some return to more familiarity with the older xpacs. Not saying vanilla, but when i have come back for shadowlands and dragonflight it just hasnt felt conmected to the older style. Probably just me, but i get a vibe that reminds more of the old days from this new build for WW. Probably just crazy.
@dustinmontanna6 күн бұрын
Thank you for the last part man, definitely made me feel a lot less like "OMG I HAVE TO DO THIS?!" lol
@osgiliath876 күн бұрын
Shadowcrash on target is gonna be so qol. I have lost count on the amount of crashes I have sent into the support beams in the ceiling
@SmolBoiii6 күн бұрын
Thank u for uploading these. I’m someone that cares about animations rather than just the numbers so this is exactly what I’m looking
@CrzyHavvk7 күн бұрын
I think probably the biggest thing I'd be asking for now that we are getting targeted shadow crash would be that Mind Spike becomes a choice node with Mind Flay rather than a tax you play for a smoother playstyle. I know many high end shadowpriests prefer Flay, but I certainly prefer Spike because I strongly dislike channeling filler. I see all the calls to just get spike removed, and one day I am afraid they might listen. If they just made flay/spike a choice node, nobody has to lose. Both flay and spike players are happy, and nobody needs both spike and flay.
@azzaahhYT7 күн бұрын
sounds like most people dont like inescapable torment
@Necrostrike7 күн бұрын
I hate how they refuse to buff void eruption. I don't want to use that shitty Dark Ascension in my void themed spec!
@victuss14138 күн бұрын
Glyph of Old Shadowform when?....I miss being spectral, ominous. The new one isn't bad, I just don't like it as much
@fabdaddyx10 күн бұрын
Gonna be pretty frustrating pooling MB having a tier set that promoted pressing it at a very high prio. Feels like void blast could be in place of MFI or MSI and feel perfectly fine, like you said, probably a balancing nightmare, and it would likely mean every 30seconds our normal filler would attribute to PL unless they removed that interaction entirely.
@Bithoeji10 күн бұрын
Aoe still sucks sadly
@mati140xD10 күн бұрын
Remove shadow crash, make old mind sear stronger, bring back legion sp power lvl. Now ots trash again and wont play this game again. Keep blowing mages dicks blizzard. Pathetic.
@Karazhan_ir11 күн бұрын
I had hope for a good rework. I know it is a meme that blizz is reworking shadow every expansion, but their rework in 10.1 hit the spec so bad imo. Our aoe is either broken or super underwhelming if they want to balance it like at the start of 10.2. And there is no difference between aoe and st rotation and it is making the spec so boring. Kinda every range dps got a mini or a whole rework like mages and warlocks. And they are super fun to play outside of great performances. So shadow is not only boring but outdated. With having the 2 defensive telent, 2 interrupt talent, and 6 2point node in the spec tree. I hope blizz have plans for us in 11.1. Maybe bringing back old void form?!
@dougneagle756311 күн бұрын
It’s amazing to me that people complain about system/stacking buff bloat so blizz says no worries we’re here to add more !!!
@dougneagle756311 күн бұрын
Shadow will continue to be in a bad spot until Blizz addresses the fact that priest needs 2 separate dps specs void is a completely different playstyle than shadow was originally. It’s 2 different specs smashed into 1. You have to identify the problem before you can fix it.
@jongwanshin464311 күн бұрын
Thanks for your video. Im new in shadow priest. And your videos are helpful. Can I know your mindspike macro?? I always wonder what macro it is 😂
@markuspellebergsintht21vux1211 күн бұрын
Lmao wow today is more about having the right addons then actuall skill or experiance 😂😅
@stricklylife48312 күн бұрын
Though i like the increased ranged talent over mindgames (great change). I wish they did this instead in its place: "Add additional charge to shadow crash and increase its range to 10yards but increases the cd by 50%." (aka, makes shadow crash the same size as other aoe placement talents (DnD, Conc, RoF, blizzard, etc..), gives 2 charges of shadow crash but increases the cd to 30sec per charge. This would be a great quality of life for shadow and make it less punishing when playing with tanks that don't understand other classes (aka moving targets out of dps aoe). This i believe is also the most requested changes I've seen from the shadow priest community (aka listening to the players). Please Like if u agree, or comment if u think differently.
@Publikwow12 күн бұрын
Yeah I think so but I don’t think it should be a talent. Just should be baked in
@stricklylife48312 күн бұрын
Though i like the increased ranged talent over mindgames (great change). I wish they did this instead in its place: "Add additional charge to shadow crash and increase its range to 10yards but increases the cd by 50%." (aka, makes shadow crash the same size as other aoe placement talents (DnD, Conc, RoF, blizzard, etc..), gives 2 charges of shadow crash but increases the cd to 30sec per charge. This would be a great quality of life for shadow and make it less punishing when playing with tanks that don't understand other classes (aka moving targets out of dps aoe). This i believe is also the most requested changes I've seen from the shadow priest community (aka listening to the players). Please Like if u agree, or comment if u think differently.
@m.h.144312 күн бұрын
We NEEEED the shadowcrash treatment on meteor..... this is such a good quality of life improvement....
@AlextheLeegend12 күн бұрын
I've found voidweaver to feel pretty clunky. ***It being activated at the start of a non-haste reduced 3 second cast but then also having the duration increase via mind blasts idk. It seems like that would have been easy to fix as you had suggested in an earlier video of just pushing the rift after it finished channeling.**** (Blizz changed this) Or another idea I'd thought of was instead of mind blasts being buffed only during the duration of rift make it just buff the next three mind blasts and then also change it so DP increases the length of rift instead of MB. This way you don't have that sort of stressful moment right as Void torrent ends where you really want to press both mind Blast and DP. It would be just a clear decision of pressing DP and then going through your mind Blast charges. It would also prevent you from having to hold mind Blast charges pre torrent. Oh and if you were playing Void Eruption it wouldnt be quiet as messy as it seems like it would be currently (on beta). They'd probably need to buff the number of Void blasts youd get playing void eruption to compensate.
@Publikwow12 күн бұрын
Thankfully they made a change so that the rift duration is actually started at the start of Void Torrent yes, but it is also fully refreshed at the END of your Void Torrent cast. Which incentivizes you to full channel it every time. Next 3 blasts is interesting but that could also lower the amount of skill expression in the window? but definitely see what you mean.
@AlextheLeegend12 күн бұрын
@@Publikwow oh wow that rift change is really nice to hear! Yeah that's true, and they've dumbed our spec down a lot as is even just from the start of Df. I just hate the idea of holding mind Blast so much lol. It's been one of the few constants with our spec along with dot (dp) maintenance. I guess my thought was you'd still have that desire to get them all off during the rift just because of the 10% increase of shadow damage virtue of Voidheart. It would give you more flexibility during that window. But also to your point less skill expression and no chance of getting lucky with procs giving you >3 void blasts.
@poorwowgameplay12 күн бұрын
Disc already has a pretty high skill ceiling and shadow had theirs lowered quite a bit. So needing to pool mind blasts makes sense.
@Tyinviril12 күн бұрын
Another great video, thanks Publik!
@Publikwow12 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@Ailike3212 күн бұрын
Yaaaay Because we aren't watching enough timers.
@Koenigg9912 күн бұрын
How is our damage looking? The priest discord is pretty doom and gloom about it.
@Publikwow12 күн бұрын
So far in raids it definitely needs help, below average in my testing. But inside of Mythic+ there are plenty of good things to talk about and I think it will be quite competitive. There is a lot of tuning left to be done (and time to do it) so I would not be worried.
@MisterTLion592112 күн бұрын
@@Publikwowm+ higher keys only or also good in keys below 20?
@angelicdescent627612 күн бұрын
Do you think shadow will gets its 2 point nodes reduced further? Dont we have like 8 of them right now or something? All the other classes have most of them removed/reworked
@Publikwow12 күн бұрын
Yeah i think we have the most or tied for the most in the game and then the most possible talent builds in the game for DPS specs. Would love to see that but i dont think it will happen until a future patch
@pmdinaz12 күн бұрын
This is definitely a good guide. I'm struggling to find a groove with it after playing Holy for the last 8 years. Kind of like trying to play sub rogue after rolling with assassination for about the same amount of time. I can play Holy and Assassin in my sleep, shadow is kickin my butt haha.
@Publikwow12 күн бұрын
Yeah its a whole different category of muscle memory! Glad this was helpful
@bear57612 күн бұрын
Voidweaver looks and feels better on disc in my opinion
@Saf_Ibn_Sayyad_Bacon12 күн бұрын
Disc sux tho
@juansaraiva543812 күн бұрын
Hey Publik, first, ty for ur feedback! Second: how much Voidweaver is better in comparasion with Archon? Cause, personally, the Archon rotation is more similar with current build, right?
@Publikwow12 күн бұрын
Right now Voidweaver is ahead by about 12% on single target and up to 20% in Mythic+. And yes Archon plays more identically to Shadow currently in Dragonflight except you now press Halo every 1 minute and press MFI/MSI more often during CDs
@scs-yt12 күн бұрын
It's kinda ironic that matching void form and voidweaver is pretty shitty. The entire hero spec should work on top of void form.
@Publikwow12 күн бұрын
Yeah totally, really feels like they didnt want to tie them together to leave the "choice" to the player but its a complete miss for me. I dont think its an accident that there is 0 Void Bolt interactions on either tree
@DanielCruz-qr6qu11 күн бұрын
Lazy design by an old and tired company.
@zizouwowist16416 күн бұрын
@@DanielCruz-qr6qu the question is do u ever get tired of complaining ?
@popopiidzdsq90794 күн бұрын
I feel it's dinsengenious to say that void form and voidweaver have bad synergy void form resets the cd of mind blast so you can torrent void blast x2 void form void blast x2 and maybe 3 if proc and voidweaver give us a lot of insanity which is very good to extend void form
@issacmorris6012 күн бұрын
You and jak our like our only hope to push some changes to the tree and class tree. dont stop talking about needing changes cause, no, this class is not fine
@Publikwow12 күн бұрын
Trying my best <3
@_RIPLI12 күн бұрын
Actually i'd prefer disc VB for shadow, but with some flavour to mf:i / ms:i and get rid of mind melt talent
@Publikwow12 күн бұрын
Yeah I would be interested to see how it would work, might get too crowded inside of voidform though (i.e. void bolt priority over spammable void blast).
@alihanatadeniz760313 күн бұрын
so if we are playing void form we torrent + use 2 charges than void form CD's and use 2 more charge maybe or is DA much better with 30 sec void torrents
@Publikwow12 күн бұрын
Dark Ascension is pretty about 5% ahead for Voidweaver right now, so definitely the preferred option. But yeah right now for VF Voidweaver opener you Vampiric Touch -> Voidwraith -> Void Torrent -> Devouring Plague --> Void Blast x2 -> Void Eruption + CDs
@nuqz421013 күн бұрын
Just give us 2 stacks of MB at the end of the VoidTorrent cast....
@Publikwow12 күн бұрын
That could help but would also devalue Voidform even more than it already is and consequentially be a buff to Dark Ascension. Our cooldowns are kind of a mess right now
@nuqz421012 күн бұрын
@@Publikwow hm, i feel like VF already needs a buff anyway. Might as well do that one one go :D
@Bradswhite9113 күн бұрын
I kinda wish they would just replace MF/MS with Void Blast instead of MB. The Shadowy Insight procs hurt my soul during rift windows. From a gameplay perspective I really enjoy Voidweaver, from a tuning perspective I’m curious how it will feel by season 2. Because it’s gotten so many nerfs already. Quick question Publik, is it worth while to dump devouring plagues during Rift on single target for larger rift collapses? And, is SW:D even worth pressing anymore?
@Publikwow12 күн бұрын
We follow a similar priority with Devouring Plague that we do currently, just with the addition of checking for Rift. So if Voidform, Dark Ascension, or Entropic Rift are active you somewhat full send Devouring Plague (to an extent). Obviously you need to do this carefully to maintain uptime but usually not a problem during rift windows with the Insanity gen from Void Blast
@xhandril13 күн бұрын
I am a big Mind Flay enjoyer. I hope(ed) they changed Mind Melt to not interact with Void Blast. Just buff VB in compensation
@Publikwow12 күн бұрын
Yeah I mean they really should get rid of Mind Spike at this point. Or add more too it, just misses the mark for me. Luckily in recent tests Mind Spike builds are only 0.4% ahead of Mind Flay builds for Voidweaver so not really a big loss to run flay
@xhandril12 күн бұрын
@Publikwow that's great to hear! Sub 1% is always something I'm willing to sacrifice without batting an eye. Maybe they could just make both a choice node so we can choose if one likes a cast more than a channel, if both tuned equally. Or they could make Mind Spike visually as interesting as Flay, so that it at least looks cool ^^
@issacmorris6013 күн бұрын
If you are hoping for changes. We are going have to wait and hope for 11.5 patch for any priest changes. And it's not just shadow, all 3 specs need work especially the class tree. Such as, if they took out mindgames, replace it with cascade. The node under could be apply your dots and it could bounce between closest and farthest that was you have dots rolling as stuff is getting pulled. I was hard upset when archon came out. I was expecting shadow to start doing twilight damage and mind flay turning into holy flay or something and youre just blasting out all this holy and shadow damage. Blizzard is fairly disappointing
@alsius916213 күн бұрын
Psychic link and the value of dots purely being for psychic link totally devalued shadows identity. Aff has got it back in tww. Wish they'd had a similar approach for at least 1 shadow hero tree
@Publikwow13 күн бұрын
Yeah I think they are scared for balancing that kind of gameplay but who knows
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Might just be me but I really do not like the new "cosmic void" effects, the shadowy purple look always spoke to me but now I feel like most of the cool abilities are now replaced with the newer sparkly blue cosmic stuff and it just looks super weird to me. I wish they had just kept the ability's looks and just updated the core flow of the spec.
Uncapped aoe please :)
remove mindspike
How to damage aoe when the pack is more than 8 mobs? Shadow crash is only for 8 mobs
what shadow really needs is a On-Death dot transfer, so many times your SC just trolls you and hits some random bozo mobs and none of the big boys xD
the GCD factors dont matter because nobody is running around with 0% haste lol
Happy they removed mindgames. Spriest has too many buttons to press, rotation is absolute mess in DF. Hopefully one day we'll get rid of shadow crash as well.
Love u publik
I would shoot myself before playing pet spec once again.
I’m a rogue main but with how rogue is kinda feeling in tww I have been playing spriest more and more recently and it’s been the most fun I have had in a long time. I’m so grateful to find your channel to learn this spec !
The new ability seems amazing. In WoW lore, shadow is given a the nickname void. Idk if that’s a valid nitpick.
im not fucking playing dark ascension that shit sucks ass, im playing void form, im a VOIDWEAVER
@Publik Help me out brotha. Was there any actual changes to our spell animations to make them look cooler? I can't figure it out anywhere! Please and thank you have a good day!!
As a classic player since it released i was looking for some return to more familiarity with the older xpacs. Not saying vanilla, but when i have come back for shadowlands and dragonflight it just hasnt felt conmected to the older style. Probably just me, but i get a vibe that reminds more of the old days from this new build for WW. Probably just crazy.
Thank you for the last part man, definitely made me feel a lot less like "OMG I HAVE TO DO THIS?!" lol
Shadowcrash on target is gonna be so qol. I have lost count on the amount of crashes I have sent into the support beams in the ceiling
Thank u for uploading these. I’m someone that cares about animations rather than just the numbers so this is exactly what I’m looking
I think probably the biggest thing I'd be asking for now that we are getting targeted shadow crash would be that Mind Spike becomes a choice node with Mind Flay rather than a tax you play for a smoother playstyle. I know many high end shadowpriests prefer Flay, but I certainly prefer Spike because I strongly dislike channeling filler. I see all the calls to just get spike removed, and one day I am afraid they might listen. If they just made flay/spike a choice node, nobody has to lose. Both flay and spike players are happy, and nobody needs both spike and flay.
sounds like most people dont like inescapable torment
I hate how they refuse to buff void eruption. I don't want to use that shitty Dark Ascension in my void themed spec!
Glyph of Old Shadowform when?....I miss being spectral, ominous. The new one isn't bad, I just don't like it as much
Gonna be pretty frustrating pooling MB having a tier set that promoted pressing it at a very high prio. Feels like void blast could be in place of MFI or MSI and feel perfectly fine, like you said, probably a balancing nightmare, and it would likely mean every 30seconds our normal filler would attribute to PL unless they removed that interaction entirely.
Aoe still sucks sadly
Remove shadow crash, make old mind sear stronger, bring back legion sp power lvl. Now ots trash again and wont play this game again. Keep blowing mages dicks blizzard. Pathetic.
I had hope for a good rework. I know it is a meme that blizz is reworking shadow every expansion, but their rework in 10.1 hit the spec so bad imo. Our aoe is either broken or super underwhelming if they want to balance it like at the start of 10.2. And there is no difference between aoe and st rotation and it is making the spec so boring. Kinda every range dps got a mini or a whole rework like mages and warlocks. And they are super fun to play outside of great performances. So shadow is not only boring but outdated. With having the 2 defensive telent, 2 interrupt talent, and 6 2point node in the spec tree. I hope blizz have plans for us in 11.1. Maybe bringing back old void form?!
It’s amazing to me that people complain about system/stacking buff bloat so blizz says no worries we’re here to add more !!!
Shadow will continue to be in a bad spot until Blizz addresses the fact that priest needs 2 separate dps specs void is a completely different playstyle than shadow was originally. It’s 2 different specs smashed into 1. You have to identify the problem before you can fix it.
Thanks for your video. Im new in shadow priest. And your videos are helpful. Can I know your mindspike macro?? I always wonder what macro it is 😂
Lmao wow today is more about having the right addons then actuall skill or experiance 😂😅
Though i like the increased ranged talent over mindgames (great change). I wish they did this instead in its place: "Add additional charge to shadow crash and increase its range to 10yards but increases the cd by 50%." (aka, makes shadow crash the same size as other aoe placement talents (DnD, Conc, RoF, blizzard, etc..), gives 2 charges of shadow crash but increases the cd to 30sec per charge. This would be a great quality of life for shadow and make it less punishing when playing with tanks that don't understand other classes (aka moving targets out of dps aoe). This i believe is also the most requested changes I've seen from the shadow priest community (aka listening to the players). Please Like if u agree, or comment if u think differently.
Yeah I think so but I don’t think it should be a talent. Just should be baked in
Though i like the increased ranged talent over mindgames (great change). I wish they did this instead in its place: "Add additional charge to shadow crash and increase its range to 10yards but increases the cd by 50%." (aka, makes shadow crash the same size as other aoe placement talents (DnD, Conc, RoF, blizzard, etc..), gives 2 charges of shadow crash but increases the cd to 30sec per charge. This would be a great quality of life for shadow and make it less punishing when playing with tanks that don't understand other classes (aka moving targets out of dps aoe). This i believe is also the most requested changes I've seen from the shadow priest community (aka listening to the players). Please Like if u agree, or comment if u think differently.
We NEEEED the shadowcrash treatment on meteor..... this is such a good quality of life improvement....
I've found voidweaver to feel pretty clunky. ***It being activated at the start of a non-haste reduced 3 second cast but then also having the duration increase via mind blasts idk. It seems like that would have been easy to fix as you had suggested in an earlier video of just pushing the rift after it finished channeling.**** (Blizz changed this) Or another idea I'd thought of was instead of mind blasts being buffed only during the duration of rift make it just buff the next three mind blasts and then also change it so DP increases the length of rift instead of MB. This way you don't have that sort of stressful moment right as Void torrent ends where you really want to press both mind Blast and DP. It would be just a clear decision of pressing DP and then going through your mind Blast charges. It would also prevent you from having to hold mind Blast charges pre torrent. Oh and if you were playing Void Eruption it wouldnt be quiet as messy as it seems like it would be currently (on beta). They'd probably need to buff the number of Void blasts youd get playing void eruption to compensate.
Thankfully they made a change so that the rift duration is actually started at the start of Void Torrent yes, but it is also fully refreshed at the END of your Void Torrent cast. Which incentivizes you to full channel it every time. Next 3 blasts is interesting but that could also lower the amount of skill expression in the window? but definitely see what you mean.
@@Publikwow oh wow that rift change is really nice to hear! Yeah that's true, and they've dumbed our spec down a lot as is even just from the start of Df. I just hate the idea of holding mind Blast so much lol. It's been one of the few constants with our spec along with dot (dp) maintenance. I guess my thought was you'd still have that desire to get them all off during the rift just because of the 10% increase of shadow damage virtue of Voidheart. It would give you more flexibility during that window. But also to your point less skill expression and no chance of getting lucky with procs giving you >3 void blasts.
Disc already has a pretty high skill ceiling and shadow had theirs lowered quite a bit. So needing to pool mind blasts makes sense.
Another great video, thanks Publik!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Yaaaay Because we aren't watching enough timers.
How is our damage looking? The priest discord is pretty doom and gloom about it.
So far in raids it definitely needs help, below average in my testing. But inside of Mythic+ there are plenty of good things to talk about and I think it will be quite competitive. There is a lot of tuning left to be done (and time to do it) so I would not be worried.
@@Publikwowm+ higher keys only or also good in keys below 20?
Do you think shadow will gets its 2 point nodes reduced further? Dont we have like 8 of them right now or something? All the other classes have most of them removed/reworked
Yeah i think we have the most or tied for the most in the game and then the most possible talent builds in the game for DPS specs. Would love to see that but i dont think it will happen until a future patch
This is definitely a good guide. I'm struggling to find a groove with it after playing Holy for the last 8 years. Kind of like trying to play sub rogue after rolling with assassination for about the same amount of time. I can play Holy and Assassin in my sleep, shadow is kickin my butt haha.
Yeah its a whole different category of muscle memory! Glad this was helpful
Voidweaver looks and feels better on disc in my opinion
Disc sux tho
Hey Publik, first, ty for ur feedback! Second: how much Voidweaver is better in comparasion with Archon? Cause, personally, the Archon rotation is more similar with current build, right?
Right now Voidweaver is ahead by about 12% on single target and up to 20% in Mythic+. And yes Archon plays more identically to Shadow currently in Dragonflight except you now press Halo every 1 minute and press MFI/MSI more often during CDs
It's kinda ironic that matching void form and voidweaver is pretty shitty. The entire hero spec should work on top of void form.
Yeah totally, really feels like they didnt want to tie them together to leave the "choice" to the player but its a complete miss for me. I dont think its an accident that there is 0 Void Bolt interactions on either tree
Lazy design by an old and tired company.
@@DanielCruz-qr6qu the question is do u ever get tired of complaining ?
I feel it's dinsengenious to say that void form and voidweaver have bad synergy void form resets the cd of mind blast so you can torrent void blast x2 void form void blast x2 and maybe 3 if proc and voidweaver give us a lot of insanity which is very good to extend void form
You and jak our like our only hope to push some changes to the tree and class tree. dont stop talking about needing changes cause, no, this class is not fine
Trying my best <3
Actually i'd prefer disc VB for shadow, but with some flavour to mf:i / ms:i and get rid of mind melt talent
Yeah I would be interested to see how it would work, might get too crowded inside of voidform though (i.e. void bolt priority over spammable void blast).
so if we are playing void form we torrent + use 2 charges than void form CD's and use 2 more charge maybe or is DA much better with 30 sec void torrents
Dark Ascension is pretty about 5% ahead for Voidweaver right now, so definitely the preferred option. But yeah right now for VF Voidweaver opener you Vampiric Touch -> Voidwraith -> Void Torrent -> Devouring Plague --> Void Blast x2 -> Void Eruption + CDs
Just give us 2 stacks of MB at the end of the VoidTorrent cast....
That could help but would also devalue Voidform even more than it already is and consequentially be a buff to Dark Ascension. Our cooldowns are kind of a mess right now
@@Publikwow hm, i feel like VF already needs a buff anyway. Might as well do that one one go :D
I kinda wish they would just replace MF/MS with Void Blast instead of MB. The Shadowy Insight procs hurt my soul during rift windows. From a gameplay perspective I really enjoy Voidweaver, from a tuning perspective I’m curious how it will feel by season 2. Because it’s gotten so many nerfs already. Quick question Publik, is it worth while to dump devouring plagues during Rift on single target for larger rift collapses? And, is SW:D even worth pressing anymore?
We follow a similar priority with Devouring Plague that we do currently, just with the addition of checking for Rift. So if Voidform, Dark Ascension, or Entropic Rift are active you somewhat full send Devouring Plague (to an extent). Obviously you need to do this carefully to maintain uptime but usually not a problem during rift windows with the Insanity gen from Void Blast
I am a big Mind Flay enjoyer. I hope(ed) they changed Mind Melt to not interact with Void Blast. Just buff VB in compensation
Yeah I mean they really should get rid of Mind Spike at this point. Or add more too it, just misses the mark for me. Luckily in recent tests Mind Spike builds are only 0.4% ahead of Mind Flay builds for Voidweaver so not really a big loss to run flay
@Publikwow that's great to hear! Sub 1% is always something I'm willing to sacrifice without batting an eye. Maybe they could just make both a choice node so we can choose if one likes a cast more than a channel, if both tuned equally. Or they could make Mind Spike visually as interesting as Flay, so that it at least looks cool ^^
If you are hoping for changes. We are going have to wait and hope for 11.5 patch for any priest changes. And it's not just shadow, all 3 specs need work especially the class tree. Such as, if they took out mindgames, replace it with cascade. The node under could be apply your dots and it could bounce between closest and farthest that was you have dots rolling as stuff is getting pulled. I was hard upset when archon came out. I was expecting shadow to start doing twilight damage and mind flay turning into holy flay or something and youre just blasting out all this holy and shadow damage. Blizzard is fairly disappointing
Psychic link and the value of dots purely being for psychic link totally devalued shadows identity. Aff has got it back in tww. Wish they'd had a similar approach for at least 1 shadow hero tree
Yeah I think they are scared for balancing that kind of gameplay but who knows