Great work putting together this video. Very well done!
@christophervillarreal85656 сағат бұрын
Conditional sparring with fancy words thrown at it to make it sound special
@user-jx2gw4cn2j2 күн бұрын
Only 5.8k subs? This is an amazing channel. Ive been binge watching all the videos.
@Hiedibjj2 күн бұрын
Glasses are a vibe 😂
@OscarAcademy8392 күн бұрын
Islam makhachev judo move is awesome
@realtruth14484 күн бұрын
Honestly you being a blue belt up against a wrestler with a purple belt and performed that well is impressive.
@user-pd9ti1uu9z4 күн бұрын
um probably not the best decision making
@joshbeambjj3 күн бұрын
Why
@user-pd9ti1uu9z3 күн бұрын
@@joshbeambjj Because you get nothing in return, if thats what ibjjf is charging nowadays then they're more garbage than I originally thought. you couldve spent that money on a high end PC with a 4090 graphics card or something but that's just me.
@kmellphotos6 күн бұрын
Solid video. I wish there was more dialogue with/after sparring that was like this. Open mat with the partners is more paced like this. I grow more from that than sparring 5 rounds and replaying it in my head on the drive home.
@garygaden11306 күн бұрын
this was very good, well done production too.
@randysitzgolf6 күн бұрын
This is absolutely Gold! As an older BJJ practitioner (60 y/o purple belt), I love this ideal.
@404vr8 күн бұрын
Being there at the plex was great. Cracking my knuckles was the best part tbh.
@oneperson97048 күн бұрын
Looking for advice. When someone is having trouble completing the task in a game, do you show them techniques in the traditional sense and let them rep it a few times before employing it in the games?
@joshbeambjj8 күн бұрын
No, the point here is that the athlete self-organizes to find the optimal movement solution for the task, and doesn’t try to replicate specific movement solutions. If someone is having trouble accomplishing a task, then one method you can try is to limit the variability in the task.
@michelettocorella93938 күн бұрын
Black belt here. This is a great video and a very interesting approach. Im going to integrate it into our program. At the very least it is fun and entertaining and probably a safer option to get new students "rolling" without a free roll and the dangers that come with 2 new students in a free roll. One thing I dont quite understand in the video is why is it an all or nothing approach? I will integrate this as I said but getting together with friends/students and discussing details and drilling together is an excellent way to learn and it is valuable esp to new students to teach mechanics of how and why certain techniques work. But as an augment to a program that includes instruction and drilling, this approach seems very valuable and fun!
@MinhTran-tv6gh9 күн бұрын
what the fuck is a kilogram 🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@joshbeambjj8 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@hongkongkev39419 күн бұрын
I greatly appreciate your efforts to share this information, keep it up!
@joshbeambjj8 күн бұрын
Appreciate you for watching! Glad it’s helpful
@qp92599 күн бұрын
I do think drilling can be overhyped. But I also think you should have a minimum amount of it. A.) It keeps things approachable and relevant across skill levels. B.) It keeps fundamentals fundemental for those at higher skill levels. You really gotta earn the right to skip drilling imo. It's not a ridiculous or bad idea. It's just something I think you have to do mindfully. To compare it to lifting, it's like skipping legs. It's fine if your legs are already in an ok place and there's something you actually want to accomplish by skipping them, i.e. reaply focusing on another bodypart thats stubborn about growing and needs a lot of work. But be fucking real with yourself. You still need to circle back to legs later, and you should still drill at some point.
@TomMack646610 күн бұрын
How do I learn this system of teaching, does it apply to striking as well ?
@joshbeambjj10 күн бұрын
I made a video about game design with Greg here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/hq5lk9OYmL2aerg.htmlsi=M715QIVeF3mRwciz I’d also recommend reading Constraints-Led Approach by Ian Renshaw, and then Rob Gray’s two books (How We Learn to Move, and Learning to Optimize Movement). Kyvann Gonzalez (@Kyvannbjj on Instagram) runs striking classes as well at Bodega Jiu Jitsu in New Jersey with CLA.
@TomMack64669 күн бұрын
@@joshbeambjj thanks I'll check it out
@Nous11110 күн бұрын
9:06 thats was deep and thats the beauty of judo!
@gsgoltz10 күн бұрын
this is really terrific
@joshbeambjj10 күн бұрын
thanks for watching! glad you enjoyed it
@travis168711 күн бұрын
What I think we are realizing in the jiujitsu world is the only thing that is going to make you good is consistency to the game. Doesn't really matter if you do conventional drilling, situational sparring, or this constraint based approach. The most important thing is that you enjoy the training and stay consistent.
@travis168711 күн бұрын
look up the 180 degree rule in cinematography. Your third middle angle in the half butterfly part looks strange and is harder to follow because of it. Great video btw.
@joshbeambjj11 күн бұрын
Yeah you’re right, I noticed this afterwards 🥲 good feedback, thanks.
@Khan-bm8ks11 күн бұрын
Cross training works wonders! I've been crushing Judo for 7 years straight now, and when on summer breaks I usually go for Muay Thai or BJJ. It's the 21st century people, stop arguing "which is better", give your best at whatever you are doing while respecting all other arts and keeping an open mind. Hope you had fun Josh. :)
@joshbeambjj10 күн бұрын
Love this! Thanks for watching.
@OdinsHallsBrazilianJiuJitsu11 күн бұрын
I’ve always taught like this, but I do it both ways. Not sure about the black and white approach, but we’ll see!
@stamth3man11 күн бұрын
Excellent video Josh! Keep up the good work. I like the focus on pedagogy in BJJ. From my experience it seems that most coaches don't invest a lot of time in developing a good pedagogy strategy and end up getting lazy by utilising "drilling". Although drilling has it's value in certain scenarios (learning something completely new or brainstorming ideas) it is definitely overused compared to non-linear, constrain-led and game based approach caching.
@rockyourjawshua987112 күн бұрын
Bros you guys are making it harder than it needs to be, the R&D has been done and will continue to naturally evolve over time, there’s techniques for a reason, so that you don’t have to do through every possible scenario yourself
@BrenVez12 күн бұрын
Great work Josh! Keep em coming Bro :)
@joshbeambjj12 күн бұрын
Thanks man! Glad to hear you enjoyed it 🙏
@jpressosh12 күн бұрын
Awesome video
@joshbeambjj12 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you!
@MeerkatsusBJJVideos12 күн бұрын
That was really informative, thank you for being a guinea pig and putting yourself out there to test the system. It was very inspiring.
@joshbeambjj12 күн бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!
@Ray25hua12 күн бұрын
You just got a new subscriber ❤ Respect brotha💪
@joshbeambjj12 күн бұрын
Appreciate it! Glad you enjoyed the video!
@anamulrahman54312 күн бұрын
More like this
@Hiedibjj12 күн бұрын
Well done 🎉🎉🎉
@joshbeambjj12 күн бұрын
thank you!
@razzle-dazzle13 күн бұрын
To the “bad habits” piece, I wonder if it would be helpful labeling (when appropriate) who the primary focus student is vs the secondary or “helper” student is. That way, secondary player knows that the game or exercise is not for them-and they can take the instruction with a grain of salt. It takes long enough to build good habits, so I’m not worried about bad behavior emerging and sticking. Also, as the students play these games and understand the game and the objectives in each sub position, their “mat/game IQ” increases, and possibly overrides any “bad” emergent behaviors over time.
@joshbeambjj12 күн бұрын
Good point. I mean even though for the "helper" student, there are still skills being learned and areas being explored. Maybe the clarity just needs to come from pointing out who's trying to learn what, or something like that (which is basically what you're getting at, I think).
@brianmoberg94128 күн бұрын
I remember back in the day. When Kit Dale was coming on to the scene, he would talk about the bad habits you program into yourself when acting as the uki in an environment where you "let" your partner perform a movement artificially. You are drilling into yourself the incorrect thing to do over and over while your partner does the correct thing. Then we flip-flop the scenario. Super inefficient and ineffective. This may be a good counterargument to those who say we are creating bad habits by implementing cla.
@gdyhdhpeifv692213 күн бұрын
i think i saw you at this event haha, its crazy that i found this on youtube
@gdyhdhpeifv692213 күн бұрын
I DID SEE YOU HAHA THATS CRAZY
@joshbeambjj12 күн бұрын
hahah that's awesome! Nice to e-meet you. Have we sparred/trained together before? or just saw in passing
@oceandojo13 күн бұрын
I believe in ecological approach. In my experience, exploration with a specific goal has lead me to discover movements that allow me to obtain that goal.
@torogarage803713 күн бұрын
Nick and Danny are the best
@jaylenescoto13 күн бұрын
Great video brother! My one question for these coaches would be why not both? Why not drill certain scenarios and then go into the games of the ecological approach? Looks like everyone is either strongly for or against this, seems like there is positives to both sides
@joshbeambjj13 күн бұрын
Thanks man! I think the general idea of going in a sequence of drilling to games is that as students, we begin trying to replicate ("spam") the techniques we were just practicing, instead of recognizing which affordances we actually have during the situations. It kinda defeats the purpose.
@jaylenescoto13 күн бұрын
@@joshbeambjj I can see that, but then how about the reverse. Practicing the games and then drilling common techniques
@joshbeambjj13 күн бұрын
@jaylenescoto in reverse yeah you wouldn’t then encounter than specific downside of drilling before doing the games, but this still begs the question of whether static drilling is useful at all (and I’m becoming more and more convinced that it’s not). My current view is that it’s a way more efficient use of training time to just use these constraints-based games.
@otrshark13 күн бұрын
Good stuff 🤙🏾🫡
@acexae241114 күн бұрын
How can they tell that bjj n judo gi looks different?
@joshbeambjj13 күн бұрын
I think a) cuz black gis are pretty uncommon in judo, and b) judogis have much thicker material and sleeves that are larger in circumference.
@KodiakCombat14 күн бұрын
17:12 define your terms. What is a bad behavior? Teaching your body? Is this a muscle memory thing? Every single rep will be different. You build a pyramid. No sub, get nine optimal habits and three sub optimal. Add arm extensions but no finish. The three sub optimal habits get punished and fade and the optimal habits get reinforced. It is like a filter. Each layer gets a finer screen to catch garbage. But if you did the super fine screen first the flow would stop completely
@KodiakCombat14 күн бұрын
What are fundamental techniques? It is a useless term. The fundamentals of a kimura are very similar to a heel hook.
@sd_mikey800414 күн бұрын
I built so many bad habits learning to walk as a toddler because my parents were horrible at teaching me how to walk. They should have had me walking perfectly from the get go. Stupid parents. /s
@danieldelanoche201514 күн бұрын
I think the constraints-led approach is actually even better for beginners, because you allow the newbie creativity while helping them focus only on the most important information, i.e. a specific goal from the position they're in. Doesn't really matter exactly how they accomplish the goal, it actually helps for them to have a simple narrow goal (the invariants) which doesn't make them have to do a specific movement solution and try to remember the top 25 details to a backtake.
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Great work putting together this video. Very well done!
Conditional sparring with fancy words thrown at it to make it sound special
Only 5.8k subs? This is an amazing channel. Ive been binge watching all the videos.
Glasses are a vibe 😂
Islam makhachev judo move is awesome
Honestly you being a blue belt up against a wrestler with a purple belt and performed that well is impressive.
um probably not the best decision making
Why
@@joshbeambjj Because you get nothing in return, if thats what ibjjf is charging nowadays then they're more garbage than I originally thought. you couldve spent that money on a high end PC with a 4090 graphics card or something but that's just me.
Solid video. I wish there was more dialogue with/after sparring that was like this. Open mat with the partners is more paced like this. I grow more from that than sparring 5 rounds and replaying it in my head on the drive home.
this was very good, well done production too.
This is absolutely Gold! As an older BJJ practitioner (60 y/o purple belt), I love this ideal.
Being there at the plex was great. Cracking my knuckles was the best part tbh.
Looking for advice. When someone is having trouble completing the task in a game, do you show them techniques in the traditional sense and let them rep it a few times before employing it in the games?
No, the point here is that the athlete self-organizes to find the optimal movement solution for the task, and doesn’t try to replicate specific movement solutions. If someone is having trouble accomplishing a task, then one method you can try is to limit the variability in the task.
Black belt here. This is a great video and a very interesting approach. Im going to integrate it into our program. At the very least it is fun and entertaining and probably a safer option to get new students "rolling" without a free roll and the dangers that come with 2 new students in a free roll. One thing I dont quite understand in the video is why is it an all or nothing approach? I will integrate this as I said but getting together with friends/students and discussing details and drilling together is an excellent way to learn and it is valuable esp to new students to teach mechanics of how and why certain techniques work. But as an augment to a program that includes instruction and drilling, this approach seems very valuable and fun!
what the fuck is a kilogram 🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
😂😂😂😂
I greatly appreciate your efforts to share this information, keep it up!
Appreciate you for watching! Glad it’s helpful
I do think drilling can be overhyped. But I also think you should have a minimum amount of it. A.) It keeps things approachable and relevant across skill levels. B.) It keeps fundamentals fundemental for those at higher skill levels. You really gotta earn the right to skip drilling imo. It's not a ridiculous or bad idea. It's just something I think you have to do mindfully. To compare it to lifting, it's like skipping legs. It's fine if your legs are already in an ok place and there's something you actually want to accomplish by skipping them, i.e. reaply focusing on another bodypart thats stubborn about growing and needs a lot of work. But be fucking real with yourself. You still need to circle back to legs later, and you should still drill at some point.
How do I learn this system of teaching, does it apply to striking as well ?
I made a video about game design with Greg here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/hq5lk9OYmL2aerg.htmlsi=M715QIVeF3mRwciz I’d also recommend reading Constraints-Led Approach by Ian Renshaw, and then Rob Gray’s two books (How We Learn to Move, and Learning to Optimize Movement). Kyvann Gonzalez (@Kyvannbjj on Instagram) runs striking classes as well at Bodega Jiu Jitsu in New Jersey with CLA.
@@joshbeambjj thanks I'll check it out
9:06 thats was deep and thats the beauty of judo!
this is really terrific
thanks for watching! glad you enjoyed it
What I think we are realizing in the jiujitsu world is the only thing that is going to make you good is consistency to the game. Doesn't really matter if you do conventional drilling, situational sparring, or this constraint based approach. The most important thing is that you enjoy the training and stay consistent.
look up the 180 degree rule in cinematography. Your third middle angle in the half butterfly part looks strange and is harder to follow because of it. Great video btw.
Yeah you’re right, I noticed this afterwards 🥲 good feedback, thanks.
Cross training works wonders! I've been crushing Judo for 7 years straight now, and when on summer breaks I usually go for Muay Thai or BJJ. It's the 21st century people, stop arguing "which is better", give your best at whatever you are doing while respecting all other arts and keeping an open mind. Hope you had fun Josh. :)
Love this! Thanks for watching.
I’ve always taught like this, but I do it both ways. Not sure about the black and white approach, but we’ll see!
Excellent video Josh! Keep up the good work. I like the focus on pedagogy in BJJ. From my experience it seems that most coaches don't invest a lot of time in developing a good pedagogy strategy and end up getting lazy by utilising "drilling". Although drilling has it's value in certain scenarios (learning something completely new or brainstorming ideas) it is definitely overused compared to non-linear, constrain-led and game based approach caching.
Bros you guys are making it harder than it needs to be, the R&D has been done and will continue to naturally evolve over time, there’s techniques for a reason, so that you don’t have to do through every possible scenario yourself
Great work Josh! Keep em coming Bro :)
Thanks man! Glad to hear you enjoyed it 🙏
Awesome video
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you!
That was really informative, thank you for being a guinea pig and putting yourself out there to test the system. It was very inspiring.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!
You just got a new subscriber ❤ Respect brotha💪
Appreciate it! Glad you enjoyed the video!
More like this
Well done 🎉🎉🎉
thank you!
To the “bad habits” piece, I wonder if it would be helpful labeling (when appropriate) who the primary focus student is vs the secondary or “helper” student is. That way, secondary player knows that the game or exercise is not for them-and they can take the instruction with a grain of salt. It takes long enough to build good habits, so I’m not worried about bad behavior emerging and sticking. Also, as the students play these games and understand the game and the objectives in each sub position, their “mat/game IQ” increases, and possibly overrides any “bad” emergent behaviors over time.
Good point. I mean even though for the "helper" student, there are still skills being learned and areas being explored. Maybe the clarity just needs to come from pointing out who's trying to learn what, or something like that (which is basically what you're getting at, I think).
I remember back in the day. When Kit Dale was coming on to the scene, he would talk about the bad habits you program into yourself when acting as the uki in an environment where you "let" your partner perform a movement artificially. You are drilling into yourself the incorrect thing to do over and over while your partner does the correct thing. Then we flip-flop the scenario. Super inefficient and ineffective. This may be a good counterargument to those who say we are creating bad habits by implementing cla.
i think i saw you at this event haha, its crazy that i found this on youtube
I DID SEE YOU HAHA THATS CRAZY
hahah that's awesome! Nice to e-meet you. Have we sparred/trained together before? or just saw in passing
I believe in ecological approach. In my experience, exploration with a specific goal has lead me to discover movements that allow me to obtain that goal.
Nick and Danny are the best
Great video brother! My one question for these coaches would be why not both? Why not drill certain scenarios and then go into the games of the ecological approach? Looks like everyone is either strongly for or against this, seems like there is positives to both sides
Thanks man! I think the general idea of going in a sequence of drilling to games is that as students, we begin trying to replicate ("spam") the techniques we were just practicing, instead of recognizing which affordances we actually have during the situations. It kinda defeats the purpose.
@@joshbeambjj I can see that, but then how about the reverse. Practicing the games and then drilling common techniques
@jaylenescoto in reverse yeah you wouldn’t then encounter than specific downside of drilling before doing the games, but this still begs the question of whether static drilling is useful at all (and I’m becoming more and more convinced that it’s not). My current view is that it’s a way more efficient use of training time to just use these constraints-based games.
Good stuff 🤙🏾🫡
How can they tell that bjj n judo gi looks different?
I think a) cuz black gis are pretty uncommon in judo, and b) judogis have much thicker material and sleeves that are larger in circumference.
17:12 define your terms. What is a bad behavior? Teaching your body? Is this a muscle memory thing? Every single rep will be different. You build a pyramid. No sub, get nine optimal habits and three sub optimal. Add arm extensions but no finish. The three sub optimal habits get punished and fade and the optimal habits get reinforced. It is like a filter. Each layer gets a finer screen to catch garbage. But if you did the super fine screen first the flow would stop completely
What are fundamental techniques? It is a useless term. The fundamentals of a kimura are very similar to a heel hook.
I built so many bad habits learning to walk as a toddler because my parents were horrible at teaching me how to walk. They should have had me walking perfectly from the get go. Stupid parents. /s
I think the constraints-led approach is actually even better for beginners, because you allow the newbie creativity while helping them focus only on the most important information, i.e. a specific goal from the position they're in. Doesn't really matter exactly how they accomplish the goal, it actually helps for them to have a simple narrow goal (the invariants) which doesn't make them have to do a specific movement solution and try to remember the top 25 details to a backtake.
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