Anytime i see fire mage its insta resistance aura as a ret. Would have thought vanguards would do the same?
@Technoviking-wc7ks9 күн бұрын
lol noobs talking in present tense
@Earpugs9 күн бұрын
yeah I suck true
@andrewschack659010 күн бұрын
Whats that addon you're using for PWS where it shows the absorb amount to the right along with the carrots?
@Earpugs10 күн бұрын
wago.io/V4qLx-Urn/9
@125conman11 күн бұрын
Never thought i'd see someone doing an arena tier list while wearing triumph motorcycle shirt lol. They make great bikes.
@bobcobb15812 күн бұрын
these classic expacs starting on the final patch of the expansion make for some fun first couple seasons.. wasn't as big a deal in wrath, but cata fire mage on 4.3.4 is nuts lol
@AM-iz5cs12 күн бұрын
How do you look 20 and 50 at the same time wtf
@Earpugs10 күн бұрын
bald
@rullakepap12 күн бұрын
rat cleave too stronk, nice games, thanks for the upload bossman o7
@Earpugs12 күн бұрын
Kiitos!!
@MyTheOver12 күн бұрын
A question bro, I'm going to start playing wow lich king and I'm wondering for rogue pve and pvp what would be the best race to play it? Can the undead be pve and pvp? I need your advice please.
@Earpugs12 күн бұрын
Human sub rogue
@kevinneparidze397312 күн бұрын
I feel like fire is weak in 2s
@rmac949812 күн бұрын
Fun games to watch!! Btw do you see any potential for fire mage/ret in 2s?
@Earpugs12 күн бұрын
Not sure tbh, try it out
@Genuinely_Vague13 күн бұрын
Oh Kay, but how do you STOP IT?!
@Earpugs12 күн бұрын
Dispel combust!
@Relay713 күн бұрын
oh naw 😂
@originalman763713 күн бұрын
That laugh was lit
@Earpugs13 күн бұрын
Live Daily! twitch.tv/earpugs Join the Discord! discord.gg/nDmXdDXHaF
@rmac949813 күн бұрын
Thank you for making such a thoughtful list! Please upload more often!
@joewhiting15 күн бұрын
solid video bro!
@BAMFHoss22 күн бұрын
Dude is a legend to the classic community and great player, ty bro!
@Earpugs22 күн бұрын
Appreciate you!
@k.i77724 күн бұрын
Warrior is S tier s9, he is deeply wrong about warrior. Tons of mobility, 5 second stun, absolute disgusting amounts of damage and aoe heal. The only thing that is truly worse is blizzard removing shield bash and defences aren’t as strong, also revenge specc isn’t a thing and doesn’t procc like in wotlk or do anywhere near the damage. Meaning it have become way more offensive class, and far less defensive.
@k.i77724 күн бұрын
Also disc is SHIT, they die like paper every arena completely unable to play.
@lolleonlolable24 күн бұрын
i love the changes but i dont understand why u still need 2.200 for the good weapon then, also i think they should disable the legandarys that come late in cata, that was just fucked up. i remember playing as disc and basicly EVERY rogue on like 2.2k+ rating had the legendary daggers and just shit on me like crazy, its just unhealable damage even if they played kinda bad i died sometimes. like u fake stuns/kicks, play perfectly and u just still die even when the rogue fails his kicks etc .. felt super dumb to play against.
@Earpugs24 күн бұрын
Any rating requirements for gear is bad in my opinion. Gearing should be extremely easy for all players.
@worldofwarpool537928 күн бұрын
Look at warmane ladder and come back. Will make you reconsider the placement of destro lock, subtlety rogue and shadow priest. Also how is feral so high
@max797115 күн бұрын
I’m looking at it right now, and sub rogue was in rank 1 team this season.
@worldofwarpool53799 күн бұрын
@@max7971 Exactly. Sub rogue and shadow priest is almost r1 right now. Why he put it in A tier and not S+ tier?
@originalman7637Ай бұрын
"..Why aren't we going? What are we afraid of?"
@IzzoSkizzyАй бұрын
*click on video* *either scroll to my class or to the end of the video* *see where they are ranked* *close video*
@maverick5291Ай бұрын
I’ve never played WoW before Cata Classic and I wouldn’t have if Blizzard didnt make this update. I have always been interested in playing arenas but never found motivation to lvl up a character into farm months for gear before being able to play in a competitive way. Not to mention that i have to motivate 2 of my friends since no veteran would welcome a complete neophyte in their roster. As a beginner in WoW I think its really sad they wont improve PvP accessibility specially when its your only interest in gaming. I had to play 4 days /played after leveling, farming bgs before i could play 1 game of arena wich is crazy when you think about it. I got really hooked on the gameplay wich is what kept me going but imagine if u had to get one of your friends to play the Game from scratch compared to League of Legends or Valorant for instance. I hope they will keep making updates like these through the expension, i would love to have Arena dedicated servers but i guess this is too much to ask. Anyways thank you very much for the KZread content/streams EarPugs, you helped me a lot on getting things set up for arenas. I wish you and everyone reading this comment a good luck through your grind :D
@killat5469Ай бұрын
2s are way more fun and fast paced, ban healers in 2s... boom now we are more balanced~ (if only...)
@plague6174Ай бұрын
The MS nerf + Unrelenting Assault removal from Arms is pretty fair tbh because they obviously anticipated that people would just run TSG (Unh/awar/healer) and with the beautiful Necrotic Strike ability being introduced to DKs in this xpac, that would've just been op if they could have 75% reduced healing TAKEN on TOP OF just having all the healing in the world just succ'd dry and absorbed. Healers would be useless in arena lol. I say this as an Unholy main too who has a best friend that mains warrior, as lovely as that sight could be with me and him, that would just be too broken and basically an unrewarded feeling of free glad more so than MLS.
@EnProtoАй бұрын
Best tier list by far, presented by an absolute proffesional as always. Thanks earpugs
@yurikawauchi5935Ай бұрын
Man what is the addon name when u Power shield you show a bar with seems like the ABS of the shield?!?
@EarpugsАй бұрын
Nanshield
@deaconfrost1445Ай бұрын
This is the worst change of all time. How is getting fully geared and the best pvp gear in a little over a week a good thing? Progression is dead. No reason to do anything but 2s. Imagine doing just 1 dungeon and getting the best gear.
@EarpugsАй бұрын
So you can play the game and playing the game is fun
@bradleycooper5436Ай бұрын
Def should of left glad in 2s.. there is no harm. What some swet lord saying your glad title doesnt count because 2v2 lmao
@TravelideasEuropeАй бұрын
32:02 wrong - this doesn’t work in Cata Classic.
@inspyre4312Ай бұрын
s10 tier list? Ik hunter and rogue r super fun in cataclysmic season
@AlleviateWoWАй бұрын
Nice video man!
@masterhe251Ай бұрын
What healer will be better for 2v2's you think?
@MrSheduurАй бұрын
Why would anyone be happy when Blizzard takes away glad titles from 2s and 5s? Is the wow pvp community such a toxic wasteland that it cannot accept that somebody might actually enjoy something other than 3s? And also the devs themselves... there was ZERO reason to do this. Don't get me wrong, I do not care that much, but such a change is just completely not needed. It hurts nobody to actually have some tiny incentive with this useless title.
@tharpoonАй бұрын
always having trouble picking my class. if i play mage... which classes will i struggle with most? marks hunter?
@pamiok17Ай бұрын
any chance could add your thoughts on best rated bg comps somewhere?
@jcurt03Ай бұрын
How bad is the feral drop off once casters and rogues get their legendaries etc.?
@EarpugsАй бұрын
Still insanely strong, just that casters become super strong.
@marcuspinto-xv1fzАй бұрын
just create rating decay...This was huge back in the day. You couldnt just sit on your rating, your team would lose points.
@davidosef7792Ай бұрын
Is this 335a?
@EarpugsАй бұрын
Wotlk classic season 7
@Loopdog95Ай бұрын
Coil for Spriest? what do you mean with coil?
@EarpugsАй бұрын
Psychic Horror is a horrify effect so people call it coil because coil is way easier to say in arena than psychic horror
@Loopdog95Ай бұрын
@@Earpugs i main priest but never heard it been called coil, just horror. but it makes sense :)
@jheim9958Ай бұрын
I love 2v2 because of how wild it is 💁🏻 i wish there was 1v1 arena. Really separate the elite players by beating what counters you 😈
@cochila91Ай бұрын
If they don't make glad 2400 and 50 wins like retail I doubt this change will be for the better. I'd be shocked if there are more glad spots open in 3s in cata even with this change. I think to many people quit pvp after wrath. Cata was my fav expansion and I have no intentions of playing it. I hit 2900 in 2s in wrath and was only fighting rank 1 players. The top is filled with people who play 24/7 what's the point in trying. And if you say well most people aren't going for glad anyway! Well they can still get their titles in 2s so how does this help?
@WhataboutBingoАй бұрын
Moo
@addwhiteboyАй бұрын
@earpugs just curious of what you thought of a ele sham bringing the legendary staff into arena or is not bringing a shield suicide ?
@bYb81Ай бұрын
I heared a streamer talking about rated rbg will they be available ?
@paulmulder3614Ай бұрын
Oof. So no gear incentive to climb rating? So this is just like dragon flight :o
@asKiFTWАй бұрын
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@ismaeldeleija8165Ай бұрын
Im so happy for this change with the Conquest points and the weekly cap, this was the thing that got me stop playing the game many years back. Would the amount of players playing this Expansion be able to support a healthy 3v3 bracket? There should be a title/reward or something for people in 2v2 too, its easier to Que up with just a friend that get 2 friends to play with. (i get 2v2 is unbalanced, but no high end title just kills it, i hope there could be a way to balance 2v2 and healer comps) The biggest PvP change i was hoping didnt come... Separated rankings for everyone instead team based rankings
@parkerfrode5101Ай бұрын
Honor gesring is probably one of the worst parts imo. If that gets fixed/changed so many people will enter the scene
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Anytime i see fire mage its insta resistance aura as a ret. Would have thought vanguards would do the same?
lol noobs talking in present tense
yeah I suck true
Whats that addon you're using for PWS where it shows the absorb amount to the right along with the carrots?
wago.io/V4qLx-Urn/9
Never thought i'd see someone doing an arena tier list while wearing triumph motorcycle shirt lol. They make great bikes.
these classic expacs starting on the final patch of the expansion make for some fun first couple seasons.. wasn't as big a deal in wrath, but cata fire mage on 4.3.4 is nuts lol
How do you look 20 and 50 at the same time wtf
bald
rat cleave too stronk, nice games, thanks for the upload bossman o7
Kiitos!!
A question bro, I'm going to start playing wow lich king and I'm wondering for rogue pve and pvp what would be the best race to play it? Can the undead be pve and pvp? I need your advice please.
Human sub rogue
I feel like fire is weak in 2s
Fun games to watch!! Btw do you see any potential for fire mage/ret in 2s?
Not sure tbh, try it out
Oh Kay, but how do you STOP IT?!
Dispel combust!
oh naw 😂
That laugh was lit
Live Daily! twitch.tv/earpugs Join the Discord! discord.gg/nDmXdDXHaF
Thank you for making such a thoughtful list! Please upload more often!
solid video bro!
Dude is a legend to the classic community and great player, ty bro!
Appreciate you!
Warrior is S tier s9, he is deeply wrong about warrior. Tons of mobility, 5 second stun, absolute disgusting amounts of damage and aoe heal. The only thing that is truly worse is blizzard removing shield bash and defences aren’t as strong, also revenge specc isn’t a thing and doesn’t procc like in wotlk or do anywhere near the damage. Meaning it have become way more offensive class, and far less defensive.
Also disc is SHIT, they die like paper every arena completely unable to play.
i love the changes but i dont understand why u still need 2.200 for the good weapon then, also i think they should disable the legandarys that come late in cata, that was just fucked up. i remember playing as disc and basicly EVERY rogue on like 2.2k+ rating had the legendary daggers and just shit on me like crazy, its just unhealable damage even if they played kinda bad i died sometimes. like u fake stuns/kicks, play perfectly and u just still die even when the rogue fails his kicks etc .. felt super dumb to play against.
Any rating requirements for gear is bad in my opinion. Gearing should be extremely easy for all players.
Look at warmane ladder and come back. Will make you reconsider the placement of destro lock, subtlety rogue and shadow priest. Also how is feral so high
I’m looking at it right now, and sub rogue was in rank 1 team this season.
@@max7971 Exactly. Sub rogue and shadow priest is almost r1 right now. Why he put it in A tier and not S+ tier?
"..Why aren't we going? What are we afraid of?"
*click on video* *either scroll to my class or to the end of the video* *see where they are ranked* *close video*
I’ve never played WoW before Cata Classic and I wouldn’t have if Blizzard didnt make this update. I have always been interested in playing arenas but never found motivation to lvl up a character into farm months for gear before being able to play in a competitive way. Not to mention that i have to motivate 2 of my friends since no veteran would welcome a complete neophyte in their roster. As a beginner in WoW I think its really sad they wont improve PvP accessibility specially when its your only interest in gaming. I had to play 4 days /played after leveling, farming bgs before i could play 1 game of arena wich is crazy when you think about it. I got really hooked on the gameplay wich is what kept me going but imagine if u had to get one of your friends to play the Game from scratch compared to League of Legends or Valorant for instance. I hope they will keep making updates like these through the expension, i would love to have Arena dedicated servers but i guess this is too much to ask. Anyways thank you very much for the KZread content/streams EarPugs, you helped me a lot on getting things set up for arenas. I wish you and everyone reading this comment a good luck through your grind :D
2s are way more fun and fast paced, ban healers in 2s... boom now we are more balanced~ (if only...)
The MS nerf + Unrelenting Assault removal from Arms is pretty fair tbh because they obviously anticipated that people would just run TSG (Unh/awar/healer) and with the beautiful Necrotic Strike ability being introduced to DKs in this xpac, that would've just been op if they could have 75% reduced healing TAKEN on TOP OF just having all the healing in the world just succ'd dry and absorbed. Healers would be useless in arena lol. I say this as an Unholy main too who has a best friend that mains warrior, as lovely as that sight could be with me and him, that would just be too broken and basically an unrewarded feeling of free glad more so than MLS.
Best tier list by far, presented by an absolute proffesional as always. Thanks earpugs
Man what is the addon name when u Power shield you show a bar with seems like the ABS of the shield?!?
Nanshield
This is the worst change of all time. How is getting fully geared and the best pvp gear in a little over a week a good thing? Progression is dead. No reason to do anything but 2s. Imagine doing just 1 dungeon and getting the best gear.
So you can play the game and playing the game is fun
Def should of left glad in 2s.. there is no harm. What some swet lord saying your glad title doesnt count because 2v2 lmao
32:02 wrong - this doesn’t work in Cata Classic.
s10 tier list? Ik hunter and rogue r super fun in cataclysmic season
Nice video man!
What healer will be better for 2v2's you think?
Why would anyone be happy when Blizzard takes away glad titles from 2s and 5s? Is the wow pvp community such a toxic wasteland that it cannot accept that somebody might actually enjoy something other than 3s? And also the devs themselves... there was ZERO reason to do this. Don't get me wrong, I do not care that much, but such a change is just completely not needed. It hurts nobody to actually have some tiny incentive with this useless title.
always having trouble picking my class. if i play mage... which classes will i struggle with most? marks hunter?
any chance could add your thoughts on best rated bg comps somewhere?
How bad is the feral drop off once casters and rogues get their legendaries etc.?
Still insanely strong, just that casters become super strong.
just create rating decay...This was huge back in the day. You couldnt just sit on your rating, your team would lose points.
Is this 335a?
Wotlk classic season 7
Coil for Spriest? what do you mean with coil?
Psychic Horror is a horrify effect so people call it coil because coil is way easier to say in arena than psychic horror
@@Earpugs i main priest but never heard it been called coil, just horror. but it makes sense :)
I love 2v2 because of how wild it is 💁🏻 i wish there was 1v1 arena. Really separate the elite players by beating what counters you 😈
If they don't make glad 2400 and 50 wins like retail I doubt this change will be for the better. I'd be shocked if there are more glad spots open in 3s in cata even with this change. I think to many people quit pvp after wrath. Cata was my fav expansion and I have no intentions of playing it. I hit 2900 in 2s in wrath and was only fighting rank 1 players. The top is filled with people who play 24/7 what's the point in trying. And if you say well most people aren't going for glad anyway! Well they can still get their titles in 2s so how does this help?
Moo
@earpugs just curious of what you thought of a ele sham bringing the legendary staff into arena or is not bringing a shield suicide ?
I heared a streamer talking about rated rbg will they be available ?
Oof. So no gear incentive to climb rating? So this is just like dragon flight :o
this thumbnail
Im so happy for this change with the Conquest points and the weekly cap, this was the thing that got me stop playing the game many years back. Would the amount of players playing this Expansion be able to support a healthy 3v3 bracket? There should be a title/reward or something for people in 2v2 too, its easier to Que up with just a friend that get 2 friends to play with. (i get 2v2 is unbalanced, but no high end title just kills it, i hope there could be a way to balance 2v2 and healer comps) The biggest PvP change i was hoping didnt come... Separated rankings for everyone instead team based rankings
Honor gesring is probably one of the worst parts imo. If that gets fixed/changed so many people will enter the scene