My KZread channel will share my tinkering with CNC machines, controls, hardware and all sorts of other stuff in my home workshop garage. I do cnc retrofits, test cnc controls and sometimes let the magic smoke out!
thank you so much for doing this video...I am getting ready to build my box for my mill...i am going to go withthe DMM servo motors..mainly becuase of budget...great video
@noithugian49415 күн бұрын
My machine is Mill, the spindle motor is also from FUNUC, can Centroid AC/DC Drives control it?
@martyscncgarage527514 күн бұрын
Not likely. I would suggest you call Centroid. You'll need a spindle drive that accepts +/- 0-10vdc analog input
@noithugian49414 күн бұрын
@@martyscncgarage5275 So what to do when the AC/DC Drives only control 3 axes X, Y, Z. Do you have a way to control the main axis?
@martyscncgarage527513 күн бұрын
@@noithugian494I don't follow. Please go to the Centroid CNC Users Forum and post pictures of your machine, axis motors, axis drives, spindle motor, spindle drive and pictures of their nameplates. We can help better with more information centroidcncforum.com/
@trikepedalerАй бұрын
Hello Marty! I haven't seen you post in a while. I have a question for you. I use an acorn, and I need to wire up the limit switches. On my X and Y axis I have only one swith and two trips on this retrofit machine. Is it possible to program Acorn for one switch per axis? Thanks.
@martyscncgarage5275Ай бұрын
Yes. Very common to use one NC home switch per axis and to put them in series and use ONE input on Acorn. Program the input HomeAll
@trikepedalerАй бұрын
@martyscncgarage5275 Hello, Marty, Im not talking about the goming switches. I was talking about the hard limit switches in case the servos run away. I have one limit switches per axis and two trip blocks on both ends of the table. That's the way Anilam did their CNC that I'm retrofitting with Acorn. I think I might have a solution, I'm thinking of running parallel wires from one contact to for both axis limits.
@martyscncgarage5275Ай бұрын
@@trikepedaler there are limit inputs. Did you buy Ether1616 so you have more inputs? Memory serves there is also a LimitAll input that works like HomeAll
@trikepedalerАй бұрын
@martyscncgarage5275 Thanks again, I watched your limit and home switch video on KZread . Thanks again.
@abramfriesen9834Ай бұрын
I have a old Hardinge cobra with fanuc 21-t controller I'm going to retrofit it with centroid
@DaveNorthWest2 ай бұрын
Hey Marty I was looking at buying a DMM 86M-DHT 0.75kW AC Servo Motor and run it from one of the DYN4 AC Servo Drives. Do you think the 86M-DHT motor would fit in the Syil X4 head? It says its a NEMA 34 and with 14mm shaft just like the original BLDC motors the machine comes with? Thanks
@martyscncgarage52752 ай бұрын
I don't recommend using an AC servo for a spindle motor. I have not had good luck getting them tuned. They are really not designed for spindles. Feel free to reach out to DMM for further advice.
@DaveNorthWest2 ай бұрын
Hey sorry if I'm annoying you with all the questions but I think what your doing is awesome and I want to do the same thing. Infract I even went and bought a CUI Devices AMT312Q encoder for the spindle motor and a used Ultra3000 drive in hopes to be able to have variable speeds up to 5000rmp with ridged taping. well it turns out that the drive I was sold is defective with error faults that I cant get to clear and work properly. Anyways I'm thinking of throwing my ripoff drive away and starting from scratch including the spindle motor. I was just wondering what DMM spindle motor should I get and a drive? Or which ones can I get that would still be compatible with the encoder and but convertible to run on Step/Dir and fit in the Syil X4? Anyways awesome thanks....
@martyscncgarage52752 ай бұрын
I would try and stick with a 3 phase motor and VFD with a braking resistor for the spindle. I got lucky and was able to mount a differential 5vdc encoder on the other end. I would go with Clearpath SDSK servos on all axis. Be sure to get one with a brake for the Z axis if necessary
@IsaiahCoberly2 ай бұрын
Hi Marty! I inherited a 2 x 2 Phoenix with a super old centroid controller and a very very old tower pc. I am thinking the right thing to do is to update it to Acorn, but in skimming your videos here I can see the upgrade may be out of my league. I’m more of a CNC programmer than a builder or mechanic. I wonder if you know any Acorn enthusiasts in Tacoma Seattle area that could help me out? Thanks..
@martyscncgarage52752 ай бұрын
Go to the Centroid Users Forum and post the details.
@beachboardfan95442 ай бұрын
Can you add a braking resistor to a motor without a vfd?
@martyscncgarage52752 ай бұрын
No. The braking resistor is part of the VFD and not all VFDs support them.
@andreacerroni90103 ай бұрын
I would like to glue a magnet under the tool setter (on the transparent plastic part), to fix it to the CNC surface. Or could this create interference?
@martyscncgarage52753 ай бұрын
Should be ok. Give it a try
@uptechcncpvclt-13023 ай бұрын
those numbers dint match with the tuning numbers why?
@martyscncgarage52753 ай бұрын
You're asking something that's years old. Unsure what you are referring to. The machine is still being used currently.
@HunterMachining4 ай бұрын
Thanks Marty! I was able to follow along exactly with you. My Z Axis is working excellently now!
@martyscncgarage52754 ай бұрын
Great to hear!
@johnmiddleditch36564 ай бұрын
I'm going the same route atm but with a Boxford 250. I'm still gathering the bits, just the spindle drive and touch screen to go. My turret looks a bit similar to that one so I'm keen to see how you go about controlling yours. Thanks for the whole series of videos, very informative and extremely useful.
@martyscncgarage52754 ай бұрын
The Emcoturn 120 has long been done. It used 4 sensor gray logic. It would be very helpful if you found a schematic for your turret/machine
@Victorgarcia-ct3zy4 ай бұрын
Hello, I have a problem, an alarm appears on the screen, it is code 411 in the z axis and also in the y axis.
@martyscncgarage52754 ай бұрын
Not enough information? New build? Existing control? Please post your question with more details along with a fresh report. F7 Utilities, F7 Create Report centroidcncforum.com/viewforum.php?f=20
@fully28284 ай бұрын
hello sir im needing to get a hold of you for some centroid repairs what's the best way?
@martyscncgarage52754 ай бұрын
My KZread name ATgmailDOTcom. I am in Mesa, AZ
@CliffDiseker4 ай бұрын
Hey Marty. I'm trying to set up my KP 3 touch probe. The company that did my conversion (LMS 3990) directed me to your channel for info. I need help with wiring please. On the Acorn KP-3 wiring drawing file S15020.DWG it shows connecting 2 wires to IN6 and IN7. On my board there is a wire already in IN6 for a limiter switch. What can I do to work around this and get the probe installed? Thanks in advance.
@martyscncgarage52754 ай бұрын
Use and assign an unused input. You will also need the detect to let the control know you have the KP3 connected. Those would be the two inputs. You have a third wire that needs to be wired to COM Please post to the Centroid User Forum. Post picture of your cable you received with KP-3 centroidcncforum.com/viewforum.php?f=60
@DaveNorthWest4 ай бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to make these videos! They are really helpful and im going to be watching them all. I want to do this same conversion your doing switching over to Acorns and DMM equipment.
@martyscncgarage52754 ай бұрын
Look at Clearpath SDSK servos, also Leadshine AC servos. Go to the Centroid User forums, post pictures of your machines and folks will provide suggestions as well
@something2do5285 ай бұрын
Does the c86 convert the 24v power to 5volt for the drive logic?
@martyscncgarage52755 ай бұрын
The drive logic for step direction signals comes from Acorn, it's passed through C86. Some signals are monitored by C86. You still need an appropriate motor power supply
@DaveNorthWest5 ай бұрын
where can someone acquire one of these machines these days? Im currently taking courses in advanced manufacturing and going to dedicate my wallet to my first mill but can find any that will fit in the little small shop space I have.
@martyscncgarage52755 ай бұрын
Well, they are out there. Watch Craigslist, FB marketplace, even eBay. Problem is, like this one, control is dead and needs an upgrade with many of them. Good. Luck!
@martyscncgarage52755 ай бұрын
You might also look at Precision Matthews mills. If you want to do a CNC conversion, look at Grizzly G0704 and convert it. Google G0704 CNC and you'll find a lot of info. Syil also makes CNC machines us.syil.com/
@DaveNorthWest3 ай бұрын
@martyscncgarage5275 Hi Marty so I went ahead and bought one of these it was bran new from a guy on OfferUp. I’ve got it all setup and running great with LinuxCNC but my only problem is I don't understand how to get the spinal working through software. I’m able to run M3 S1000 and M4 S1000 and on the display panel of the machine indicates the direction is changing from forward and reverse but the spindle does not turn on. Is there some sort of PWM settings I’m also supposed to be configuring? If so, I don’t understand it and my guess is that I’m supposed to configure PWM on either pin 3 or pin 9 because in the user manual it says those are signal pins of some kind. I did try it once and after turning the spindle on through LinuxCNC the back of the main power panel made a horrible noise like a relay freaking out and immediately pulled the plug. Hope I didn’t damage anything. But can you give me any advice on what I should do? There's no information about configuring the spindle online and Syil won’t respond to my messages. You seem to be extremely knowledgeable on all this. Thanks?
@martyscncgarage52753 ай бұрын
@@DaveNorthWest I'm sorry I know nothing about Linux CNC and it's hardware.
@DaveNorthWest3 ай бұрын
@@martyscncgarage5275 do you know if the stock Syil X4 spindle uses PWM or PDM to control the speeds? Sorry if I'm asking so many questions. Just haven't gotten to get an acorn system upgrade yet
@thumperthoughts5 ай бұрын
The one I just bought RATT something on Amazon, was DOA so I opened it up. It has a loose wire. But it also has two little microswitches, and no electronics. So if the one here has a pietzo or something, not all do.
@aticafloorable5 ай бұрын
Mr. The frequency in USA is 60 HZ AND THE FREQUENCY OF MY MOTOR IS 50 HZ. THE PARAMETERS P0.03 60HZ, PO.O4 60HZ, P0.06 60HZ, AND FOR THE MOTOR P2.02 50HZ Is this correct? My VFD GT is 5kw 7.5hp thanks
@martyscncgarage52755 ай бұрын
Change the frequency settings to 50hz and try that. You should be really contacting HY Electrical for support.
@brodin6675 ай бұрын
where did u get that mill?
@martyscncgarage52755 ай бұрын
Friend of mine
@OpaqueWindow5 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for helping me out!
@martyscncgarage52755 ай бұрын
It's older but to some extent still applies. In any case I'm glad you found it useful!
@markneary8745 ай бұрын
By chance do you have the fadal keyboard still? I am trying to find one.. Thanks
@martyscncgarage52755 ай бұрын
No sir. I sold all the original parts. You can still buy them.
@markneary8745 ай бұрын
@@martyscncgarage5275 please tell me where. Fadal tells me they are discontinued. And thank you for your time.
@martyscncgarage52755 ай бұрын
@@markneary874 sorry to hear that. There are several dealers of Fadal products. I assumed you googled them and tried them all? I guess then there is eBay...
@codedsurfboards59186 ай бұрын
important to note the value this man has on you tube ..i managed to get my machines going ONLY DUE to @martyscncgarage big thanks to you my friend.
@Mr-Mo-OG6 ай бұрын
Hey Marty, I am in the process of retro fitting an old CNC (currently not working) with a new Centroid Acorn and Gecko G540, but the original E-Stop is connected before the 24v power supply instead of after the power supply. Is there any reason to change where the E-Stop goes?
@martyscncgarage52756 ай бұрын
Download and follow the Centroid Acorn system schematic
@martyscncgarage52756 ай бұрын
There is a schematic for Acorn and the G540 showing the Estop wiring www.centroidcnc.com/centroid_diy/schematics/pbrowse.php
@benrasmussen98786 ай бұрын
how familiar are with this DX 32 control and this machine? Thanks
@martyscncgarage52756 ай бұрын
A little bit. Cnczone. Com has information in them.
@aleks25386 ай бұрын
Marty we missing your video's
@martyscncgarage52756 ай бұрын
Thanks I appreciate the comment. I'm doing some personal projects right now, I'm not getting any younger 😁.
@tfxreference856221 күн бұрын
@@martyscncgarage5275 i am glad you are alive and well
@avpriority6 ай бұрын
Hello Marty. I have a question on the C86ACCP. I recently installed the board, the new one with the flying lead terminal blocks. I see in the GCnC Revisions manual that you have wire jumpers in the two position flying lead blocks. Are these necessary when using the molex plugs. I ask because I seem to have to have input 5 set to NO red circle. If set to NC drive fault occurs upon any movement. I wired everything else as per your video.
@martyscncgarage52756 ай бұрын
I am unaware of this. However, I am going to be setting up a Clearpath SDSK system up soon and if there is something new or different, I'll post an update video on that subject
@martyscncgarage52756 ай бұрын
You should post to the Centroid User Forum be sure to let everyone know what schematic you used and the excerpt from the manual you are quoting. Always post a fresh report as well. I have not been active because I've had some personal projects and they've only multiplied
@avpriority6 ай бұрын
Hi Marty, I added a post on the centroid forum as of today.@@martyscncgarage5275
@martyscncgarage52756 ай бұрын
@@avpriority just did basic bench test. Will be bench testing the Clearpath servos soon in between projects. Let me know what you learn and likewise I'll get back with you when I get to that point.
@ronaldmontgomery84467 ай бұрын
In August 2008 I purchased a new CNC milling machine with a centroid control. It was exactly 15 years to the day and to the hour from the time I energized the machine, that the mother board crashed. Take it for what you think, but I think an inbuilt virus is to blame for the sole reason of selling another control. Once you have a $30,000 machine and the control dies you have a $30,000 boat anchor. So yes I did buy an updated control and now it has been 3 weeks trying to get the spindle to rotate. 4 months and the machine is still a boat anchor. Please help me.
@martyscncgarage52757 ай бұрын
Hi Ronald. Not sure what you have. I can tell you that many people get overwhelmed with the conversion and or find they don't have the ability to wrap their mind around it and abandon the project. Others are too busy to do it and hire someone to get it done and back in service. They find it can be pricey, but if the machine is expensive, it can be put back into service and start making money again
@ronaldmontgomery84467 ай бұрын
With my old control I was going to try ridged tapping but control said this feature is not supported. There is no encoded on this spindle drive motor. Need to deactivate ridged tapping.@@martyscncgarage5275
@ronaldmontgomery84467 ай бұрын
@@martyscncgarage5275 I have 3 centroid people working on this issue ( spindle does not move )for 3 weeks now. There is 0.00 DC voltage at the ( H5 analog out ) spin-com / spin an pins and it should be 1.66 will it ever work. I payed $6,000 for the upgrade and I still have a $30,000 boat anchor.
@Tehknein7 ай бұрын
Awesome videos. I own a mechanically astounding VMC20 that I’d love to retrofit soon. The dc drives and motors work wonderfully and currently that is my big hold up. I’m assuming I’d need some 1.8kw to 2.2kw servos to replace them and that gets pricey fast. That said I’m definitely planning so when that does occur I know what my options are.
@martyscncgarage52757 ай бұрын
If the DC brush servos are good, consider Centroid All in One DC. You will likely have to upgrade the encoders in them
@laserborn57878 ай бұрын
Marty Does centroid allow for multiple homes you can choose?
@martyscncgarage52758 ай бұрын
Homing a machine sets the machine datum. You can create multiple work coordinates. What are you trying to accomplish?
@laserborn57878 ай бұрын
Would proximity sensor work same as limit switch?
@martyscncgarage52758 ай бұрын
Yes, preferred over a mechanical limit switch. Make sure it is NPN 24vdc NC
@whistle3man8 ай бұрын
Marty, where do you get your leadshine closed loop steppers. I'm new to this and in the middle of upgrading a plasma table. I'm having trouble getting anything back from the leadshine website. Thanks
@martyscncgarage52758 ай бұрын
Try cnc4pc.com. call them
@hasanuluer7058 ай бұрын
HELLO. I AM USING DYNA MYTE 6" CNC. BUT I DON'T HAVE THE IN-HOLE TOOL EQUIPMENT CONNECTED TO THE TURRET. I SAW IT IN YOUR VIDEO AND WANTED TO CONTACT ME. CAN YOU HELP ME?
@martyscncgarage52758 ай бұрын
The machine belongs to a friend of mine. What specifically do you want to know?
@hasanuluer7058 ай бұрын
I need the tool holders on the turret. Can you provide an e-mail or whatsapp number for communication?
@whistle3man8 ай бұрын
How do you like the centroid? Any pros or cons you would like to share. Im very seriously considering Centroid for a cnc plasma rebuild.
@martyscncgarage52758 ай бұрын
Personally would not use anything else. Hardware and software from the same company who has specialized in CNC Motion control for well over 30 years. Constantly improving software.
@whistle3man8 ай бұрын
@@martyscncgarage5275 that is how I felt. Glad you confirmed it. BTW I have been enjoying your other videos. Thanks for taking the time to make detailed videos. I'll be watching a lot of them. Also subscribed. Thanks
@martyscncgarage52758 ай бұрын
@@whistle3man@whistle3man Thanks. Unfortunately Centroid has made so many improvements to their software and hardware, the videos became somewhat obsolete. But that IS a testament to Centroids commitment to improvements. All their boards are true motion controllers and now they have a solution for just about every project. You just need a good machine and the skills to execute the conversion.
@martyscncgarage52758 ай бұрын
@@whistle3manTheir user forums are a great resource. You should check out their success stories to see what others have done if you haven't already. centroidcncforum.com/
@whistle3man8 ай бұрын
@@martyscncgarage5275 thanks. No problem on the machine end. I spent over 40 years in machining with the last 27 designing machining assembling and testing large research equipment for a large aluminum company.
@ijazwaris79898 ай бұрын
hi i have dyna myte 1410, problem in keyboard panel not working, can you please have a look.? thanks.
@martyscncgarage52758 ай бұрын
Sorry, no
@laserfalcon8 ай бұрын
What is HFLB ?
@martyscncgarage52758 ай бұрын
We use it as a servo fault to stop the CNC control.
@laserfalcon9 ай бұрын
Marty Have you changed out any cnc that was 3 phase and converted them using centroid?
@martyscncgarage52759 ай бұрын
Not following. You want to convert a 3phase CNC machine to single phase and Centroid?
@laserfalcon9 ай бұрын
@@martyscncgarage5275 yes, our machine is a multicam 2000 laser . It uses 3 phase power, our thoughts were to convert to a single phase, replace motors and obviously the power supplies. We aren't sure yet if it's too daunting but there are lots of issues keeping it how it is.
@martyscncgarage52759 ай бұрын
@@laserfalcon if your laser power supply is three phase you'll need to keep that. Since it's a laser table, I doubt the axis motors are that large. If I were you, I would take pictures of the machine, machine label, control cabinet, axis drive labels and post to the Centroid Users forum. centroidcncforum.com/ Ask for suggestions. You WILL get good advice. Mention if you have schematics or not or can get them for your machine. Also mention where you are located. Let me know when you do
@laserfalcon9 ай бұрын
Marty What is VFD?
@martyscncgarage52759 ай бұрын
Variable Frequency Drive. Controls the speed of the spindle motor
@kurtbilinski17239 ай бұрын
I ran this test and had no problem, but after connecting it to the VFD, the voltage was severely loaded down, reading about a third of what it should be, and was jumping around. Turned out that not shielding the cable carrying the analog command to the VFD is a BAD idea, at least for my setup.
@martyscncgarage52759 ай бұрын
Make sure you only ground the shield at the Acorn end and only to one common ground point.
@laserfalcon9 ай бұрын
Does wizard come with centroids software?
@martyscncgarage52759 ай бұрын
Absolutely! It's how you configure the software. Centroid also has an installation manual and many schematics
@laserfalcon9 ай бұрын
Excellent
@kennethwright97069 ай бұрын
My acorn CNC when I drive my X axis 24 inches it actually moves 24 1/4 inches. How do I fix that
@martyscncgarage52759 ай бұрын
First did you download the Acorn Installation manual ? It's explained there. Use the Centroid CNC Users forum. Post a fresh report and ask your question there. But it IS explained in the installation manual which can be found on Centroids website
@laserfalcon9 ай бұрын
Are teknic servos same as clearpath ?
@martyscncgarage52759 ай бұрын
Yes, Teknic makes the Clearpath SDSK servos
@laserfalcon9 ай бұрын
@@martyscncgarage5275 Wanting to switch over to centroid on a multicam cam 2000 laser cutter, using as much as i can, they use teknic drives and servos but this is all new to me but think i can manage if taking step at a time
@martyscncgarage52759 ай бұрын
@@laserfalcon you need to identify which Teknic clear path motors and drives you have and how they are controlled first. Especially if you plan on using Centroid Acorn. They must be able to take step and direction signals. I suggest you get the drive and axis motor model/serial numbers and give Teknic a call and ask to talk to an Applications Engineer. They are most helpful
@laserfalcon9 ай бұрын
@@martyscncgarage5275 Thanks for that advice
@derekrussell992510 ай бұрын
Just came across your channel! Very excited to see the content you focus on! Thank you for your work! God bless you I subscribed as soon as I saw all your videos 😊
@laserfalcon10 ай бұрын
Great video but still a lil overwhelmed. Looking to upgrade a cnc laser but hesitant yet
@MartyEscarcega10 ай бұрын
What format laser?
@laserfalcon10 ай бұрын
@@MartyEscarcega pwm i believe
@MartyEscarcega10 ай бұрын
@@laserfalcon is this a small bench top machine? Acorn fully supports PWM and I have driven a laser with it mounted on my router
@MartyEscarcega10 ай бұрын
@@laserfalcon have you done a KZread search for Centroid CNC Laser?
@laserfalcon10 ай бұрын
@@MartyEscarcega i was in touch with centroid but not done a search yet
@justinsturgeon111 ай бұрын
Marty, while using this video to add homing to my machine I noticed that you were required to cycle reset to start your machine. The version I am using does not have this feature. This is want. I want to require a software reset on power up and after an e-stop. Is this an option somewhere in the parameters? Sorry a little off topic.
@martyscncgarage527511 ай бұрын
The software used to require a reset on power up. Are you saying that feature is missing? Please run over to the Centroid CNC User's forum and post a fresh report there with your concern. Centroid will comment on it. If you hit Estop and reset E-Stop, you reset CNC12
@chadjensenster11 ай бұрын
This is y years ago, I dont think you will check comments, but heres hoping. Do you have the papers you were reading so I can do this with my machine?
@martyscncgarage527511 ай бұрын
All in the Centroid All in One DC installation manual. You follow the in screen prompts as you do the test
@lndnjiv11 ай бұрын
Your encoder video solved about 2 days of me scratching my head. Thank you so much!!
@aamirzaheer0411 ай бұрын
Nice video Marty really appreciate thats most cofused setup
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thank you so much for doing this video...I am getting ready to build my box for my mill...i am going to go withthe DMM servo motors..mainly becuase of budget...great video
My machine is Mill, the spindle motor is also from FUNUC, can Centroid AC/DC Drives control it?
Not likely. I would suggest you call Centroid. You'll need a spindle drive that accepts +/- 0-10vdc analog input
@@martyscncgarage5275 So what to do when the AC/DC Drives only control 3 axes X, Y, Z. Do you have a way to control the main axis?
@@noithugian494I don't follow. Please go to the Centroid CNC Users Forum and post pictures of your machine, axis motors, axis drives, spindle motor, spindle drive and pictures of their nameplates. We can help better with more information centroidcncforum.com/
Hello Marty! I haven't seen you post in a while. I have a question for you. I use an acorn, and I need to wire up the limit switches. On my X and Y axis I have only one swith and two trips on this retrofit machine. Is it possible to program Acorn for one switch per axis? Thanks.
Yes. Very common to use one NC home switch per axis and to put them in series and use ONE input on Acorn. Program the input HomeAll
@martyscncgarage5275 Hello, Marty, Im not talking about the goming switches. I was talking about the hard limit switches in case the servos run away. I have one limit switches per axis and two trip blocks on both ends of the table. That's the way Anilam did their CNC that I'm retrofitting with Acorn. I think I might have a solution, I'm thinking of running parallel wires from one contact to for both axis limits.
@@trikepedaler there are limit inputs. Did you buy Ether1616 so you have more inputs? Memory serves there is also a LimitAll input that works like HomeAll
@martyscncgarage5275 Thanks again, I watched your limit and home switch video on KZread . Thanks again.
I have a old Hardinge cobra with fanuc 21-t controller I'm going to retrofit it with centroid
Hey Marty I was looking at buying a DMM 86M-DHT 0.75kW AC Servo Motor and run it from one of the DYN4 AC Servo Drives. Do you think the 86M-DHT motor would fit in the Syil X4 head? It says its a NEMA 34 and with 14mm shaft just like the original BLDC motors the machine comes with? Thanks
I don't recommend using an AC servo for a spindle motor. I have not had good luck getting them tuned. They are really not designed for spindles. Feel free to reach out to DMM for further advice.
Hey sorry if I'm annoying you with all the questions but I think what your doing is awesome and I want to do the same thing. Infract I even went and bought a CUI Devices AMT312Q encoder for the spindle motor and a used Ultra3000 drive in hopes to be able to have variable speeds up to 5000rmp with ridged taping. well it turns out that the drive I was sold is defective with error faults that I cant get to clear and work properly. Anyways I'm thinking of throwing my ripoff drive away and starting from scratch including the spindle motor. I was just wondering what DMM spindle motor should I get and a drive? Or which ones can I get that would still be compatible with the encoder and but convertible to run on Step/Dir and fit in the Syil X4? Anyways awesome thanks....
I would try and stick with a 3 phase motor and VFD with a braking resistor for the spindle. I got lucky and was able to mount a differential 5vdc encoder on the other end. I would go with Clearpath SDSK servos on all axis. Be sure to get one with a brake for the Z axis if necessary
Hi Marty! I inherited a 2 x 2 Phoenix with a super old centroid controller and a very very old tower pc. I am thinking the right thing to do is to update it to Acorn, but in skimming your videos here I can see the upgrade may be out of my league. I’m more of a CNC programmer than a builder or mechanic. I wonder if you know any Acorn enthusiasts in Tacoma Seattle area that could help me out? Thanks..
Go to the Centroid Users Forum and post the details.
Can you add a braking resistor to a motor without a vfd?
No. The braking resistor is part of the VFD and not all VFDs support them.
I would like to glue a magnet under the tool setter (on the transparent plastic part), to fix it to the CNC surface. Or could this create interference?
Should be ok. Give it a try
those numbers dint match with the tuning numbers why?
You're asking something that's years old. Unsure what you are referring to. The machine is still being used currently.
Thanks Marty! I was able to follow along exactly with you. My Z Axis is working excellently now!
Great to hear!
I'm going the same route atm but with a Boxford 250. I'm still gathering the bits, just the spindle drive and touch screen to go. My turret looks a bit similar to that one so I'm keen to see how you go about controlling yours. Thanks for the whole series of videos, very informative and extremely useful.
The Emcoturn 120 has long been done. It used 4 sensor gray logic. It would be very helpful if you found a schematic for your turret/machine
Hello, I have a problem, an alarm appears on the screen, it is code 411 in the z axis and also in the y axis.
Not enough information? New build? Existing control? Please post your question with more details along with a fresh report. F7 Utilities, F7 Create Report centroidcncforum.com/viewforum.php?f=20
hello sir im needing to get a hold of you for some centroid repairs what's the best way?
My KZread name ATgmailDOTcom. I am in Mesa, AZ
Hey Marty. I'm trying to set up my KP 3 touch probe. The company that did my conversion (LMS 3990) directed me to your channel for info. I need help with wiring please. On the Acorn KP-3 wiring drawing file S15020.DWG it shows connecting 2 wires to IN6 and IN7. On my board there is a wire already in IN6 for a limiter switch. What can I do to work around this and get the probe installed? Thanks in advance.
Use and assign an unused input. You will also need the detect to let the control know you have the KP3 connected. Those would be the two inputs. You have a third wire that needs to be wired to COM Please post to the Centroid User Forum. Post picture of your cable you received with KP-3 centroidcncforum.com/viewforum.php?f=60
Thanks for taking the time to make these videos! They are really helpful and im going to be watching them all. I want to do this same conversion your doing switching over to Acorns and DMM equipment.
Look at Clearpath SDSK servos, also Leadshine AC servos. Go to the Centroid User forums, post pictures of your machines and folks will provide suggestions as well
Does the c86 convert the 24v power to 5volt for the drive logic?
The drive logic for step direction signals comes from Acorn, it's passed through C86. Some signals are monitored by C86. You still need an appropriate motor power supply
where can someone acquire one of these machines these days? Im currently taking courses in advanced manufacturing and going to dedicate my wallet to my first mill but can find any that will fit in the little small shop space I have.
Well, they are out there. Watch Craigslist, FB marketplace, even eBay. Problem is, like this one, control is dead and needs an upgrade with many of them. Good. Luck!
You might also look at Precision Matthews mills. If you want to do a CNC conversion, look at Grizzly G0704 and convert it. Google G0704 CNC and you'll find a lot of info. Syil also makes CNC machines us.syil.com/
@martyscncgarage5275 Hi Marty so I went ahead and bought one of these it was bran new from a guy on OfferUp. I’ve got it all setup and running great with LinuxCNC but my only problem is I don't understand how to get the spinal working through software. I’m able to run M3 S1000 and M4 S1000 and on the display panel of the machine indicates the direction is changing from forward and reverse but the spindle does not turn on. Is there some sort of PWM settings I’m also supposed to be configuring? If so, I don’t understand it and my guess is that I’m supposed to configure PWM on either pin 3 or pin 9 because in the user manual it says those are signal pins of some kind. I did try it once and after turning the spindle on through LinuxCNC the back of the main power panel made a horrible noise like a relay freaking out and immediately pulled the plug. Hope I didn’t damage anything. But can you give me any advice on what I should do? There's no information about configuring the spindle online and Syil won’t respond to my messages. You seem to be extremely knowledgeable on all this. Thanks?
@@DaveNorthWest I'm sorry I know nothing about Linux CNC and it's hardware.
@@martyscncgarage5275 do you know if the stock Syil X4 spindle uses PWM or PDM to control the speeds? Sorry if I'm asking so many questions. Just haven't gotten to get an acorn system upgrade yet
The one I just bought RATT something on Amazon, was DOA so I opened it up. It has a loose wire. But it also has two little microswitches, and no electronics. So if the one here has a pietzo or something, not all do.
Mr. The frequency in USA is 60 HZ AND THE FREQUENCY OF MY MOTOR IS 50 HZ. THE PARAMETERS P0.03 60HZ, PO.O4 60HZ, P0.06 60HZ, AND FOR THE MOTOR P2.02 50HZ Is this correct? My VFD GT is 5kw 7.5hp thanks
Change the frequency settings to 50hz and try that. You should be really contacting HY Electrical for support.
where did u get that mill?
Friend of mine
Thank you very much for helping me out!
It's older but to some extent still applies. In any case I'm glad you found it useful!
By chance do you have the fadal keyboard still? I am trying to find one.. Thanks
No sir. I sold all the original parts. You can still buy them.
@@martyscncgarage5275 please tell me where. Fadal tells me they are discontinued. And thank you for your time.
@@markneary874 sorry to hear that. There are several dealers of Fadal products. I assumed you googled them and tried them all? I guess then there is eBay...
important to note the value this man has on you tube ..i managed to get my machines going ONLY DUE to @martyscncgarage big thanks to you my friend.
Hey Marty, I am in the process of retro fitting an old CNC (currently not working) with a new Centroid Acorn and Gecko G540, but the original E-Stop is connected before the 24v power supply instead of after the power supply. Is there any reason to change where the E-Stop goes?
Download and follow the Centroid Acorn system schematic
There is a schematic for Acorn and the G540 showing the Estop wiring www.centroidcnc.com/centroid_diy/schematics/pbrowse.php
how familiar are with this DX 32 control and this machine? Thanks
A little bit. Cnczone. Com has information in them.
Marty we missing your video's
Thanks I appreciate the comment. I'm doing some personal projects right now, I'm not getting any younger 😁.
@@martyscncgarage5275 i am glad you are alive and well
Hello Marty. I have a question on the C86ACCP. I recently installed the board, the new one with the flying lead terminal blocks. I see in the GCnC Revisions manual that you have wire jumpers in the two position flying lead blocks. Are these necessary when using the molex plugs. I ask because I seem to have to have input 5 set to NO red circle. If set to NC drive fault occurs upon any movement. I wired everything else as per your video.
I am unaware of this. However, I am going to be setting up a Clearpath SDSK system up soon and if there is something new or different, I'll post an update video on that subject
You should post to the Centroid User Forum be sure to let everyone know what schematic you used and the excerpt from the manual you are quoting. Always post a fresh report as well. I have not been active because I've had some personal projects and they've only multiplied
Hi Marty, I added a post on the centroid forum as of today.@@martyscncgarage5275
@@avpriority just did basic bench test. Will be bench testing the Clearpath servos soon in between projects. Let me know what you learn and likewise I'll get back with you when I get to that point.
In August 2008 I purchased a new CNC milling machine with a centroid control. It was exactly 15 years to the day and to the hour from the time I energized the machine, that the mother board crashed. Take it for what you think, but I think an inbuilt virus is to blame for the sole reason of selling another control. Once you have a $30,000 machine and the control dies you have a $30,000 boat anchor. So yes I did buy an updated control and now it has been 3 weeks trying to get the spindle to rotate. 4 months and the machine is still a boat anchor. Please help me.
Hi Ronald. Not sure what you have. I can tell you that many people get overwhelmed with the conversion and or find they don't have the ability to wrap their mind around it and abandon the project. Others are too busy to do it and hire someone to get it done and back in service. They find it can be pricey, but if the machine is expensive, it can be put back into service and start making money again
With my old control I was going to try ridged tapping but control said this feature is not supported. There is no encoded on this spindle drive motor. Need to deactivate ridged tapping.@@martyscncgarage5275
@@martyscncgarage5275 I have 3 centroid people working on this issue ( spindle does not move )for 3 weeks now. There is 0.00 DC voltage at the ( H5 analog out ) spin-com / spin an pins and it should be 1.66 will it ever work. I payed $6,000 for the upgrade and I still have a $30,000 boat anchor.
Awesome videos. I own a mechanically astounding VMC20 that I’d love to retrofit soon. The dc drives and motors work wonderfully and currently that is my big hold up. I’m assuming I’d need some 1.8kw to 2.2kw servos to replace them and that gets pricey fast. That said I’m definitely planning so when that does occur I know what my options are.
If the DC brush servos are good, consider Centroid All in One DC. You will likely have to upgrade the encoders in them
Marty Does centroid allow for multiple homes you can choose?
Homing a machine sets the machine datum. You can create multiple work coordinates. What are you trying to accomplish?
Would proximity sensor work same as limit switch?
Yes, preferred over a mechanical limit switch. Make sure it is NPN 24vdc NC
Marty, where do you get your leadshine closed loop steppers. I'm new to this and in the middle of upgrading a plasma table. I'm having trouble getting anything back from the leadshine website. Thanks
Try cnc4pc.com. call them
HELLO. I AM USING DYNA MYTE 6" CNC. BUT I DON'T HAVE THE IN-HOLE TOOL EQUIPMENT CONNECTED TO THE TURRET. I SAW IT IN YOUR VIDEO AND WANTED TO CONTACT ME. CAN YOU HELP ME?
The machine belongs to a friend of mine. What specifically do you want to know?
I need the tool holders on the turret. Can you provide an e-mail or whatsapp number for communication?
How do you like the centroid? Any pros or cons you would like to share. Im very seriously considering Centroid for a cnc plasma rebuild.
Personally would not use anything else. Hardware and software from the same company who has specialized in CNC Motion control for well over 30 years. Constantly improving software.
@@martyscncgarage5275 that is how I felt. Glad you confirmed it. BTW I have been enjoying your other videos. Thanks for taking the time to make detailed videos. I'll be watching a lot of them. Also subscribed. Thanks
@@whistle3man@whistle3man Thanks. Unfortunately Centroid has made so many improvements to their software and hardware, the videos became somewhat obsolete. But that IS a testament to Centroids commitment to improvements. All their boards are true motion controllers and now they have a solution for just about every project. You just need a good machine and the skills to execute the conversion.
@@whistle3manTheir user forums are a great resource. You should check out their success stories to see what others have done if you haven't already. centroidcncforum.com/
@@martyscncgarage5275 thanks. No problem on the machine end. I spent over 40 years in machining with the last 27 designing machining assembling and testing large research equipment for a large aluminum company.
hi i have dyna myte 1410, problem in keyboard panel not working, can you please have a look.? thanks.
Sorry, no
What is HFLB ?
We use it as a servo fault to stop the CNC control.
Marty Have you changed out any cnc that was 3 phase and converted them using centroid?
Not following. You want to convert a 3phase CNC machine to single phase and Centroid?
@@martyscncgarage5275 yes, our machine is a multicam 2000 laser . It uses 3 phase power, our thoughts were to convert to a single phase, replace motors and obviously the power supplies. We aren't sure yet if it's too daunting but there are lots of issues keeping it how it is.
@@laserfalcon if your laser power supply is three phase you'll need to keep that. Since it's a laser table, I doubt the axis motors are that large. If I were you, I would take pictures of the machine, machine label, control cabinet, axis drive labels and post to the Centroid Users forum. centroidcncforum.com/ Ask for suggestions. You WILL get good advice. Mention if you have schematics or not or can get them for your machine. Also mention where you are located. Let me know when you do
Marty What is VFD?
Variable Frequency Drive. Controls the speed of the spindle motor
I ran this test and had no problem, but after connecting it to the VFD, the voltage was severely loaded down, reading about a third of what it should be, and was jumping around. Turned out that not shielding the cable carrying the analog command to the VFD is a BAD idea, at least for my setup.
Make sure you only ground the shield at the Acorn end and only to one common ground point.
Does wizard come with centroids software?
Absolutely! It's how you configure the software. Centroid also has an installation manual and many schematics
Excellent
My acorn CNC when I drive my X axis 24 inches it actually moves 24 1/4 inches. How do I fix that
First did you download the Acorn Installation manual ? It's explained there. Use the Centroid CNC Users forum. Post a fresh report and ask your question there. But it IS explained in the installation manual which can be found on Centroids website
Are teknic servos same as clearpath ?
Yes, Teknic makes the Clearpath SDSK servos
@@martyscncgarage5275 Wanting to switch over to centroid on a multicam cam 2000 laser cutter, using as much as i can, they use teknic drives and servos but this is all new to me but think i can manage if taking step at a time
@@laserfalcon you need to identify which Teknic clear path motors and drives you have and how they are controlled first. Especially if you plan on using Centroid Acorn. They must be able to take step and direction signals. I suggest you get the drive and axis motor model/serial numbers and give Teknic a call and ask to talk to an Applications Engineer. They are most helpful
@@martyscncgarage5275 Thanks for that advice
Just came across your channel! Very excited to see the content you focus on! Thank you for your work! God bless you I subscribed as soon as I saw all your videos 😊
Great video but still a lil overwhelmed. Looking to upgrade a cnc laser but hesitant yet
What format laser?
@@MartyEscarcega pwm i believe
@@laserfalcon is this a small bench top machine? Acorn fully supports PWM and I have driven a laser with it mounted on my router
@@laserfalcon have you done a KZread search for Centroid CNC Laser?
@@MartyEscarcega i was in touch with centroid but not done a search yet
Marty, while using this video to add homing to my machine I noticed that you were required to cycle reset to start your machine. The version I am using does not have this feature. This is want. I want to require a software reset on power up and after an e-stop. Is this an option somewhere in the parameters? Sorry a little off topic.
The software used to require a reset on power up. Are you saying that feature is missing? Please run over to the Centroid CNC User's forum and post a fresh report there with your concern. Centroid will comment on it. If you hit Estop and reset E-Stop, you reset CNC12
This is y years ago, I dont think you will check comments, but heres hoping. Do you have the papers you were reading so I can do this with my machine?
All in the Centroid All in One DC installation manual. You follow the in screen prompts as you do the test
Your encoder video solved about 2 days of me scratching my head. Thank you so much!!
Nice video Marty really appreciate thats most cofused setup