The Jackmeister: Mongol History
The Jackmeister: Mongol History
Hello there!
This channel will be specializing in the Mongol Empire, and all areas of history that it affected, which was a lot of areas. My aim is to cover not just the campaigns of Chinggis Khan (better known in the english speaking world as Genghis Khan) and his successors, but all facets of the empire: governance, politics, trade, and the people affected. In addition, I hope to cover the successor states of the Ikh Mongol Ulus -the Golden Horde, the Chagatai Khanate, Ilkhanate and Yuan Dynasty- and the people and empires that emerged in the post-Chinggisid world, such as the Timurids or Kazakhs and from there who knows? The Ming? The Mughals? Wherever the road takes us.
Any questions, concerns, topics you'd like me to cover? Or feel that I got something wrong? Let me know and I'll see what I can do: this channel is as much for me to expand my knowledge as it is for the viewers.
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It was said that knowing the potential of any iron objects in Mongolia turning into weapon and production, The Manchu Qing Empire banned or minimized transport of iron objects to Mongolia.
Reminds me of the Jurchen->Manchu change 😮
Sadly there were no mentioning about the Manavs who are descends of the Cumans who migrated to Anatolia
question: did the cuman, brought their animals too like sheep and goats, horses and donkey
TAH TARS not tartar sauce.
A Viking dude telling mongol history this channel deserve 1M subs
New subscriber here I am crazy about Genghis Khan and mongol history I am glad I found this channel
We are Mongols but others especially western people called us as Tatars in history.
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I love muslim khans
Here we're talking about the term "Tatar" as it is in the Medieval historical sources and books. Not about modern-day Tatars (=Turks/Bulgars of Russia whom the Russians erroneously went on to call Tatars)! "Tatar" was how the Mongols called themselves before the adoption of the name "Mongol" (probably in honor of Muguli, the founder of Rouran Khaganate - as some Chinese source wrote that the Tatars admired some legendary Mongol warriors). The transition was not swift. In the beginning they continued to use the name Tatar, and then Tatar/Mongol interchangeably even after the annihilation of the Tatar confederation by Temujin. Or even after the Empire was called Mongol Empire ( - according to many sources of the time). Why? It needs to be explained, but the fact is in the medieval books, "Tatar" meant and means "Mongol". Not the Turkic ethnic groups of Russia, of course.
sorry I wanted to ask if you know anything about a stone monument Amir Timur erected when chasing Tukhtamish to Kundurcha, recorded by Zafarnama, and later Muhammad shibani, and Abdullah khan on their campaigns against Kazakhs erected on the same site their own inscripts, I was wandering where is the site, it might be somewhere in western Kazakhstan, but I don't know the exact site
sorry, where can I find Rasulid hexaglot?
axijuq the successor of Ashraf Chopani who was defeated by Mubarez aldin Muhammad of Muzaffarids
what was the use of getuga, mingol passport, and in which source can I find information about it?
bicichi is the same bitakchi of Persian sources
hi there sorry, i wanted to know which preliminary sources records the Uighur scribes in Naiman courts and their feat after Naimans defeat and I wanted to know if there's a Yuanshi English translation and where can I find it? thank you as always
Yisungge hit the target not just firing.
Tatar is the name especially the Russians call all Turkic step tribes together. Turk, Tatar, Kipchak and Kunman are all the same today we as Tatars, Kipchaks, Kunmans, Oughuz call ourselves as Turk. Turk is the name of nation, Tartar is branch of it. These classification as Tatar, Kipchak, Oghuz, Turkmen etc. is the result of devide and rule politics of both Russian, British empires. Tatar language is nothing than Turkish just dialect. All Turks coming together under one banner, since 15th century the relatives devided in terms of eurocentric written history, classification of language and claimed to be different nations. In Mongolia, in academy if you ask people about Chengiz Khan they would answer you as he was Turk ruled Turk and Mongol tribes. In Chengiz army the population were %70 of Tatars, Kipchaks, Kunmans etc. Do not name nations with the present names of lands. Thousand years ago the name of today's Mongolia was not Mongolia, so it is a vital historical mistake, calling old tribes and nations with present names of lands. It is a commen mistake or maybe not, about Iran, Mongolia and Turkistan. To erase the name Turk from the history especially christian oriented eurocentric historians made a political choice. Ural-Altaic and Hakasian people's common name is Turk, thousand years ago Persians, Chinese, Romans called them Turks including Attila's Khuns. Even Ancient Greek historians called both step nomads and Turanic civilizations as Turk. After 16rh and 17th century especially with the influence of British Royal History and Geography Academy and also German and French poltically oriented acedemia they changed the known and recorded history against Turkic existance. It was not science but politics. Today, after 200 years of Russian invasion in Turkistan, archeology and history studies started again, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzistan, Turkmenistan, Kazakystan, Azerbiajan where were one united khanate just 180 years ago, started to form new formation like EU or USA, also there are 65 million Turks living in Russian Federation. My point is, the manuplated, fabricated anti-Turk eurocentric history approach will die in a short while. Tatar and Turks the name or adjective of same people.
Emir Timur has never been Mongol, infact he fought with Mongol tribes and states. Timur was a Turk empire, talking Turkish, his high ranked were all Turks. The expression Turko-Mongol is just created to dilute or hide the influence and power of Turk existance around Turkistan between 3.th and 15th century. Turkistan is what eurocentrics call central asia today. But this so called central asia has been always called as Turkistan by Iranians, Chinese, Romans and Byzantinses. Do not let some people change the historical realities. Yes Turks and Mongols are relatives, you may call them like cousens, also Koreans and some Japanese tribes are also relatives with Turks, just like some first nations of America continent. But Timur was a Turk empire from Tashkent where is capital of Uzbekistan today. It is unfortunatelly a western type of ununderstanding, like calling all asian sterotypes as chinese! Timur was Turk, Tashkent during Timur era, was cultural capital of Turkistan.
So i know its been a year but... Would Mongols wear silk shirts for comfort perhaps?
helped so much with my project thanks JackMeister
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It’s pronounced “cavalry” not “Calvary” lol
I will add one more hypothesis of Borjigin ethnonym genesis, it is Turkic. Middle-Mongolian is abundant on turkic loanwords. Borjigin could originate from Börï-Tigin. Börï means "a lead wolf" and "experienced wolf". Tigin means "descendant", similarly to Gokturk Kultigin. Another legend describes Borjigins as descendants of a wolf similar to Ashina Turks
It is very interesting to hear Turkic words in Mongolian interpretation. For instance, Altan Urag (Golden lineage) probably originated from Altyn (gold) and Ürüq (branch). This word Ürüq was used by turkic people meaning clans branching from tribes and later in some turkic languages reduced to "Ru" meaning "clan"
This video actually opened my eyes! Among Oghuz Turks we were taught there are 24 boys. My father tells me we are Afshar similiar to Nader Shah or some of the Anatolian Beyliks. I always wondered what that exactly means. I guess before the foundation of Seljuk state Oghuz Yabgu state had a similiar aristocracy division as you described in the video. So anyone claiming being of a certain boy simply says to which aristocratical group in Oghuz Yabgu state his ancestor was subject to.
the 13nth and 14nth century is absolutely wrong as research shows that we been here from thousands of years and first noted history of us begin from Kushinid empire.
Thank you so much. I’m Mongol from Russia, Buryat Mongol 🇲🇳
Even if Genghis had green eyes and red-hair... it is not such a big mystery... Mongolia is right next to Russia. The gene flow goes both ways, if you look at modern Russians, a lot of them have Mongolian-shaped eyes...
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Orkhon inscriptions 🔥
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Why did it take 2 years for Ögedei to take the throne as the Great Khan after the passing of his father? It's not like he was a child or anything.. Was Tolui the official regent? Was there some title for that? It's quite impressive for Tolui to not try to depose his brother, he could have been just afraid of even trying but surely it's honorable as he stayed in control for 2 years. I don't remember anything similar in Mongol history. Had someone like Jamukha been in power, he would have tried something...
The regency is an interesting thing. For what Tolui does in this period, it appears he cancelled military campaigns, worked to maintain Mongol control over newly conquered territories (especially around Zhongdu, modern-day Beijing), oversaw the burial ceremonies of his father, and prepared for the quriltai to empower Ögedei. While there is some suggestion that some of the princes wished to enthrone Tolui instead of Ögedei, (partly, it appears to be because Tolui was seen as the more skilled commander of the two) Tolui did not counter his father’s will and publicly backed his brother. It may be part of the reason for the 2-year period, was the trouble in actually arranging what to do next following the death of Chinggis, and an extended mourning period and ceremonies to send off Chinggis' spirit. There is a rather constant issue in the Mongolian successions where Khans generally do nominate an heir, but the concept of an heir automatically succeeding the father in an institution way was not present so these choices normally had some pushback. It presumably took a bit of time to calm these voices. At the same time, Tolui's power as regent is also likely somewhat overstated, and mostly appears in writings from dynasties ruled by his own children.
There does not appear to have been a Mongolian title for the position of regent (the early Mongol Empire tended to be fairly flexible in terms of titles and how they were used). Tolui is sometimes known as Yeke Noyan or the Turkic equivalent, Uluğ Beğ ("Great Lord,") but this appears to be an honourable, posthumous title used after his death once his personal name became taboo.
Indeed, the succession thing was very unorthodox and problematic. Neither Güyük nor Möngke's children/descedants took the throne. I don't know if either had surviving children, but Möngke shouldn't even be there because he was an entirely other line and Güyük still had brothers (and maybe children). And yes, the sources must surely be very pro-Tolui because he ended up winning the long game as the Kublai dynasty was descedant from him. @@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory
So Güyük had at least three children; two sons, Khwaja (Qucha) and Naqu with his Yeke Khatun, Oghul Qaimish, and another son, Hoqu, from a concubine. Following Güyük's death though, the sons wanted to become Khan, while Oghul Qaimish, interestingly, apparently tried to back Shiremün (a grandson of Ögedei via Qochu, born to a different lady from Güyük's mother Törögene). Shiremün appears to have been (one) of Ögedei's choices as heir, an honour he never seams to have provided Güyük, and possibly Oghul Qaimish was seeking to honour that wish. However, this put her into conflict with her own sons, and the result was to essentially incapacitate the Ögedeyid faction while Möngke made his move.
Möngke also had a few sons; Baltu and Urungtash, born to Yeke Khatun Qutuqtai, and Shiregi and Asutai, born to secondary wives. In this case, Baltu dies before Möngke, while the brothers never seem to be seriously considered for their role, perhaps seen as too young. As I have argued elsewhere, it appears that Möngke intended his youngest brother, Ariq Böke, to act as either regent, or actually even successor (brother-to-brother being a common steppe tradition in successions)- a plan foiled by Khubilai's refusal to cooperate, and declaring himself Khan in spring 1260.
Is there any patreon level that I can recommend a topic video (and maybe help on the making)? It'd be nice as I would learn more about the character as well..
Viewers are free to suggest things; I don't want to make a position where people pay for video topics, because my own schedule is too inconsistent right now to always devote time to videos. So I don't want to make a scenario where people are asking/paying for things and I have to make promises I can't deliver. Unfortunately right now, usually the videos will have to take a back seat to my PhD, so I never know when I will get time to work on them.
No problem! I still am interested in being a patreon. Does the Baatar membership get a discord service access? I'd likely be a patreon around September, as my first job will just now in August. Your channel is amazing, the best here on the platform on the topic. I hope you can always find more time to improve the channel ❤@@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory
Yes all patreons at all levels get access to the discord, where I try to be relatively active.
The most interesting part was seeing the translations from the mongol script into Latin! And a medieval European manuscript (in Latin) with a Chinese-language seal on top. Wow!!
chinese seal? Where?
@@coleob807110:44 The seal is written in Chinese
It's Tartarian, not Mongolian.
Same thing, poor turk
If the takeaway with this is that "Mongol" was more a "neo" identity pushed forward by the ruling class over Tatar do you think it is possible that "Mongol" could potentially have been "Munkh-Khol" loosely meaning "eternal center/pivot point". Kinda like Mongke Khan's namesake?
Imagine what Hazara ancestors did to local people there before settling on those land. Hazara people try to play victim always but that’s not how it is. They killed thousands of innocent people, took their land and women. Even currently, they been grabbing lands in major cities and have issues with the government. The people of Afghanistan don’t trust them as much. Other ethnicities in Afghanistan sees them as very racist. During the civil wars in 1990s, they raped and killed thousands. The hate they get sometimes is because of their own actions. They complain about everything regardless of the condition of the nation. They never support the government but always ask for more. Many of their warlords are so corrupt and when their own leaders don’t do anything for them they blame it on others. They even force other minorities to claim themselves as Hazaras. They force others minorities out of Bamyan or as they claim hazarajat because they claim it belongs to them. They hate it when people bring up their wrongdoings because they love to play victim. Don’t trust most of them. They do have nice and honest people as well but overall they not liked because of their own actions. They have done as much evil to others as they claim others have done to them.