I want to say thank you for being a channel that focuses almost entirely upon one part of history, especially since the mongols are one of the less covered parts of history. I love the passion you put into your videos and hope to learn more about the Mongols in the future.

This is one of my favorite channels, you're pretty much guaranteed to learn something new with each episode

@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory

9 ай бұрын

Very happy you enjoyed it. I learned a lot working on this project. I am experimenting a bit with this series; this video is a bit of a simpler summary, and then the next ones in the series will be more detailed and discuss sources and historiography, since I imagine most people are probably more curious in just learning the names of the daughters rather than arguments around them spread out over 30 minutes.

Thank you for the hard work it’s appreciated

@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory

8 ай бұрын

Many thanks for the kind words, thank you for watching it!

Thank you for the precious knowledge you are providing us with.

@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory

8 ай бұрын

Thank you for watching it! It is my honour

Tema buenísimo!! Gracias Jack por traer a la palestra información que de otra forma apenas podría yo tener acceso, ni saber sobre su constancia histórica Saludos!

While the Mongol ruling males drank, merried and warred, their women in the background were responsible for a lot of background deals and events that went around.

Unrelated question: Did the early Mamluks have the most professional military system in the world for its time? Particularly in terms of training and advancement. With Baybars building barracks which troops will live out of, hippodromes for tournaments, personally inspecting training occasionally disguised. Equipment was standardised and provided by the state, with bi weekly inspections to ensure the Mamluks are maintaining them. Later there was fixed uniforms to distinguish between ranks. Then after training, the slow progression through the rigid hierarchy, based on defined criteria, not arbitrary reasons. With Baybars al Mansuri taking 33 years of service to become commander of 1000. The decades long process instilling loyalty and discipline. Every Mamluk went through this, with Baybars not favouring his own over others. Ranks were permanent, with one of baybars' governors outliving him by 30 years, through 2 seperate governors. How does it compare to the other military systems of the time, such as the Delhi Sultanate or the Mongols or the Song dynasty or others?

@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory

8 ай бұрын

In some regards, certainly! if not the most professional, then it was near the top of the list. Much of the Mamluk training exercises themselves appear to be, it is argued, versions of training exercises done in the steppe lands already (but perhaps standardized under the Mamluk regime). Professionalized and standardized is probably a good way to understand the Mamluk training, but it seems the most rigid training (as we should expect) was reserved for groups like Sultan's own Mamluks, rather than the entirety of the Mamluk regiments or non-Mamluk forces. Furthermore, it appears to have prioritized the training of smaller "squad" units, rather that full army movements; I do not know if there was a Mamluk equivalent of the full-scale 'nerge' hunts that the Mongols, other nomads, and the Liao and Jin Dynasties did. Thus the Mamluk army was a highly effective, precise instrument but not one capable (due also to lack of numbers) of the vast maneuvers and multi-theatre operations we see the Mongols regularly taking part in. My opinion is that the Mamluk Army, and state, under Baybars was designed to do one thing: act as an anti-Mongol weapon, and they perfected that. A consequence of being an anti-Mongol weapon, was that also made them really effective against most other armies they faced in their heyday. But this perhaps also meant that if we moved them out of their comfort zone, it might not adapt terribly well (whereas with the Mongols we routinely see them adapting to new environments, albeit not always smoothly or immediately). But it is important to keep in mind that we get this imagine of really precise Mamluk training, because we have such a huge volume of sources surviving from the Mamluks; we know more about Mamluk training than we do for the Mongols, besides discussions of these large-scale hunts. While training in the Delhi Sultanate for the cavalry core like mirrored the Mamluks of Egypt due to similar steppe origins and culture of those elements, other that than we have basically no sources offering any comparative amount of detail for Delhi's training, as we do for the Mamluks of Egypt.

@Wakobear.

8 ай бұрын

@@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory thanks for replying

@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory

8 ай бұрын

My pleasure, it was a good question! The Mamluk army is a fascinating topic and I will return to its interactions with the Mongols in more detail in future.

This is the start of a new series on the daughters of Chinggis Khan; part one here provides an overview and summary of them, and in following video we delve deeper into the historiography, sources and controversies surrounding them. More videos on the daughters: Part 1: Introduction, and discussion of Börte and Qojin Beki: kzread.info/dash/bejne/kYuEzMd9hJesl5M.html Part 2: Discussing Chechiyegen, Alaqa Beki and Tümelün: kzread.info/dash/bejne/pKJ7tKqDoNqynNY.html Part 3: Discussing Altalun, Altun Beki and Alajin Beki: kzread.info/dash/bejne/dK6lsJewnLzOYps.htmlsi=39G5jOOwF361BXls Full Bibliography: docs.google.com/document/d/1kd48Z4l6bjqeLLpy2S0bGOXyaa87jOJ4IBnQCwIk_4M/edit?usp=sharing

A video on Queen Mandukhai the Wise would be a most welcome addition, but I am guessing that Northern Yuan history will have to wait. :D

@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory

8 ай бұрын

Would be a great topic in future! I'm happy to do Northern Yuan, but at the moment my knowledge of the matter is quite cursory and good, detailed materials and sources are hard to access. And I don't tend to go into topics (the ones I do on this channel, at least) without being confident I'm using the best possible materials I can for researching it, or least understand the primary sources on the matter.

@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory

8 ай бұрын

Which is a good indicator; if I have trouble finding the materials on that period, then you should take very cautiously a random KZreadr who does cover try and cover it...

@winlaxmunkhbat2216

8 ай бұрын

@@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory I can help you with Northern Yuan sources. But English version are very rare and hard to find.

I came across your map during a moment of Twitter scrolling. This is a phenomenal project. I run the Abbasid History Podcast of much more modest production compared to this. I would really appreciate learning what you use for these high quality works.

👍👍👍

By the way Amir Temur was also called "Küregen" because he married a women of Chinggis Khaan descendence

@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory

8 ай бұрын

Yes! it will be mentioned in the next video too when discussing the kuregen

The descendants of the proto Mongols ( beidi, baidi, changdi , hunnu , xianbei, shiwei , rouran , wuheng ,hu , qiang ,kiat (jie) etc.) who have built so many khanates in Eurasia , the descendants of the proto Mongols become most of Han Chinese speakers, Persian speakers, Arabian speakers . The descendants of Medieval Mongols (kereit, naiman, merged , barlus , besud , olkhonud , chakhar , jalar , tatar, ...etc ) who have built five empires (yuan dynasty, il khanate , golden horde , chakhatai khanate and Mughal empire). The descendants of yuan dynasty remain as Mongol language speakers , different Chinese languages speakers, tibet language speakers.The descendants of Il khanate become different Persian languages speakers , the descendants of Chagatai khanate become different Turkish languages speakers , the descendants of Golden Horde become different Turkish language speakers and Slavic languages speakers. Therefore , The Mongols are pluralism at present world. Modern Hebrew language was reborn after lost 2000 years. one day all descendants of the proto Mongols, Medieval Mongols around the world might revive the Mongol language again to be reunited to make contribution to development of human dignity and human rights.

Unrelated question and Hello Jack Hello Jack I wanted to ask a question about the Mongol Empire and imperial theatrics. As we know, the Mongols had the idea that they were a universal empire, but the Mongols actually believe that, or were they like all universal empires just pretending? Examples are too big, some of them being Rome or the caliphate, but what of the Mongols? An example is the Guyuk letter to the pope. Does Guyuk actually want the pope to just acknowledge him as a form of theatrics and just be an empty ceremonial acknowledgement, or does Guyuk actually want to make the pope and Europe's vassal like the Rus? How about an embassy? You know that in Chinese history, people came with gifts to the emperor, and thus the Chinese interpreted this as a tribute, and that the Koreans, Japanese, or Japanese, or anyone who ever acknowledged the Chinese emperor as supreme ruler but did not actually become vassals, Did such symbolic theatrics exist prior to the Mongol civil war of 1260? If so, do you have any examples or sources, primary or secondary? If not, why did the Mongols not accept mere theatrics and actually demand what was required to be a Mongol vassal, i.e., troops and taxes , etc. thank you for reading and keep up the amazing work.

@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory

8 ай бұрын

All indication is that, by the time of Ögedei and Güyük they had fully come to believe in the eventuality of the world conquest and the eventual submission to them of all powers on earth. Güyük likely imagined the Pope would make journey (if not then, then it would be at some point in the future), and we see other monarchs (most notably King Het'um of Cilician Armenia) making the long journey all the way to the Mongol court. We can see with Khubilai Khan and his invasions into today's Vietnam, or with Mongol campaigns into Korea, that there was a brief allowance on the monarchs not making the journey immediately, but stalling became pretext for further invasions and warfare. It's not really until after Khubilai's death that there is willingness in the Yuan court to accept tribute payments instead of total submission.

In all "great man" history, check for the great women conveniently painted just out of frame.

@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory

8 ай бұрын

As usual, things tend to be a lot more complex than just "one big name did everything"

@samwill7259

8 ай бұрын

@@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory We say it takes a whole village to raise a child but expect one man to run a whole empire.

Fake kazak history.