G'day, Al and Furz here. We are two weekend warriors - installing, riding and testing all the parts that will get us out and riding a little easier, or for a little longer. This is Hard UNduro because we are as UNduro as it gets. We have both been riding dirt bikes for over 20 years and have been tinkering with them throughout. We are not pro riders, nor mechanics. This channel is our attempt to provide videos that we have searched for ourselves, including installing aftermarket parts, reviewing and testing some of our favourite additions to dirt bikes, and in large part our journey with a 2024 Beta Xtrainer 300. If you are like us, then come along for the ride and we hope you learn something, or at least you come and take the piss out of us in the comments. We hope you too get out on your 'mental health machines' as often as we do!
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Why moving on so soon? I thought the xtrainer was you sorted. Just discovered you guys and was really keen on getting a xt but now your moving away from it by the looks
Welcome. No we still have a 2024 Xtrainer 300 and we love it, its definately not going anywhere. Plenty more videos coming with it. Just adding another bike to the mix to keep things interesting. Cheers 👍👍🙏
I think the gearing makes the comparison very difficult, 14 to 13 T makes a huge difference even on a 300
Yep.agree. it's a bit hard when we can't do those mods for testing. Cheers
Can’t wait for the test ride results. Keep the vids coming fellas.
Thanks Mate will do. 💪💪🙏
Good looking rig Man 👍🏼
Thanks Mate. 🙏🙏💪
Awesome new shiny horse in the stable, can't wait to see your next Husqvarna TE300 ride video. Hopefully as a plain Jane unmodified. I know the Clake clutch will be added ASAP. I kept looking and I feeling it was missing something... I couldn't put my finger on it. So I went and had a look at my FE Husqvarna.. Then I knew what is was.. It's missing another 200cc's.. ;p 😈😋
Haha thanks Cyber. Spot on, the Clake One light clutch lever will be going on asap along with a heap of other protection parts. And yes who doesn't like more ponies. 🙏🙏💪💪
Yes Please 🙏 😍
FINALLY brembo!! Im really interested to see this in action. Cheers
Totally agree. I've been waiting for Brembo. Cheers
Ooh back to an injected bike? What’s the seat height like for us lacking some after your Xtrainer?
Hey Adam. Honestly the seat height feels good and not KTM heigh. Obviously the Xtrainer frame is smaller so the TE300 feels little bigger.. time will tell and we will share our thoughts. I'll bring the tape measure.
Awesome. I’ve experienced the smooth TBI power on a 2024 KTM300 so be very interested to hear what the Husky is like.
Did you try adjusting suspension on RR to soften it up
Sadly it was on loan for a short time so we didn't get to stuff around with the suspension. No doubt it would have made a difference.
Nice ride some times its nice on your own
Totally agree. Cheers
La 4t tiene más torque que la de 2t por eso sube mejor y menos forzada
I'm only 5'6" and it's tough for me finding smaller bikes. I installed a lower seat and lowering link in my 125X. It helps but not enough.
Hang in there. Do lots of balance practise and drills. 👍👍💪
I don’t know where this is, but if you guys wanna ride wombat sometime just send me a message.
Thanks Legend. Will defiantly take you up on that 👍👍💪💪
sooo far am loving the videos mate 😁👍 subed the other day and have been watching some of your older videos and am playing catch up 🤣👍 (video watching)😁 keep well and ride safe-ish 😉🍺
Thanks for the kind words, and we appreciate you watching. Hopefully we can give a few guys a laugh and motivation to get out and about. Cheers 👍👍💪💪
Blimey your winter is better than our summer in the UK its pissing down with rain again!!!
Haha, yes, your weather is brutal sometimes, I don't know how you manage. I watch a lot of the races there, and it's always full mud sessions. Cheers
Man it must be tough riding in UK winters. Guess that’s why you produce amazing riders!
I bought a 22MY XT thinking it would be my perfect bike, I'm 5'9" and around 168lb. I trail ride, single track that ranges from difficult to fast flowing. I gave it a shot but just couldn't get on with the breathless power delivery, found the small frame size uncomfortable ergonomically, the suspension was fine in slow stuff but hitting stones etc on faster tasks it was harsh and unforgiving. I started with exhausts, power valve springs, jets etc trying to make it feel like a proper 300 2t, mostly that worked out ok. By this time i knew it just wasn't the bike i was hoping for and the frame size was always going to be just too small. I decided not to spend a lot money on the suspension and traded it for a standard 23MY RR300. I put a skid plate and some radiator guards on the RR and i love it, Just as much if not more bottom end, but a lot more mid and top should you wish to use it, power delivery is easy to control. Frame size is larger, much more comfortable. The suspension is just so much better, still feels compliant going slow but absorbs hard hits much better. So many riders buy XTs and then spend a fortune on them, unless you are seriously vertically challenged or on limited budget (You might spend more on the XT in the long run) I'd never advice buying an XT over an RR. There really isn't that much difference in the heights, I'm 5'9” 60yo and not even an averagely talented trail rider and i can cope fine (I have an EXC200 which is much taller so maybe when i get on the RR it feels lower) Interesting review though, thanks for the content.
Thanks for your thoughts. Yes, I agree with a lot of what you mention. ALs stock bike suspension is partially ok in slow but any speed its terrible hence why I modified the other Xtainer suspension and its a world of difference everywhere. Once modified, Furz bike felt a lot more powerful and responsive everywhere. Everyone I've spoken to says the 15% smaller frame and seat height gives a lot more confidence when riding, which is huge. I would have my 2020 ktm 300 (half tbi/tpi) over the 300RR. I didn't really like the RR geometry and cockpit. Having said that we're going to review the new 300 XPro beta that replaces the RR soon so stand by for that, it may change my mind. Each to their own though, and as long as we all get out on whatever bike we have, that's the important thing. Hope you get some sunshine soon 🌞. Cheers 👍👍💪💪
Riding that close to a fence just makes me tighten up in all the nasty places. Past childhood barbed wire experiences come flashing back.
Ouch, sounds nasty. Yes, those close fence lines aren't much fun.. Shame you didn't have an action cam going. Cheers 👍👍💪
What a cracking ride day. Please note we do not identify our ride locations beyond stating Victoria, Australia. If you happen to know this location, we would ask you don't publish it here. Enjoy!
Awesome. Gotta love a ride video for my Saturday night Chillax. Makes we want to go riding now! Cheers
I think everyone knows that location 🤣
Get you one!
I ride pretty much only snotty stuff in Victoria's Otway region. All the manufacturers represented in my riding group. The carby bikes definitely run out first in my experience whether that's the ktm, betas or sherco. The injected bikes do get a bit more ks ( obviously the fuel capacities are all slightly different ) but 70 ish ks seems to be close to or empty for all bikes in that environment.
Thanks Clint..all that makes sense from what we've experienced I've heard only the Smart Carb can compete with the fuel injected bikes. Nice and cold down that way for riding, great area we love it. If I'm riding more than 70kms the track isn't single or sloppy enough for us haha. Cheers mate 👍👍👍🤘
@HardUNduro yeah mate 70ks is a big day doing the type of riding I like 😅 it's not uncommon to do 15-20k and be on the bike all day lol. I'm on 2020 ktm 300 and have just bought a new 12 litre acerbis tank. One less thing to worry about 🤙🏻
Is this hard? I've just started and all the terrain is like this but sloppy muddy
Yes it's fairly hard packed. Sloppy would be interesting to try and see. 👍👍🤙
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Thanks for the advice we will look into all that. Cheers 🙏🙏🙏
Iv got a 2015 fe501 absolutely love the bike I ride mostly tight singels all the boys I ride with are on 300 two smoker the 501 is great for the first 3 to 4 hours but does get a bit heavy after that and when you get tired also the 501 I find it want to stand up a lot when powering out of tight corners u like the 300 just glides around the corners I’ll be going to a 2 stroke my next bike
Cheers Scott. Yep we totally agree. Just from the small ride I loved the 501 but definitely wore me out quicker than the 2-Stroke. 👍👍💪
Hi Boys. I've been researching what bike to get after a 25-year absence. Came across your channel, and it's been a eye opener. Never thought about xtrainer, coming from 90's motocross, wanted to go nowhere near a 2 stroke. Though WR250F the perfect bike. After researching, seems its become a yz with lights, and seeing you both chugging along on single track on the beta's, that's exactly what i want to ride. Thks. Where do y guys ride at.
G'day Jas. 100% I thought the same thing about 2-Stokes having ridden the likeS of RM 80 and the crazy power. I was always then on 450s until I rode a new 2Stroke and was blown away. Wish I swapped back earlier. We had the Yammy wr250f and agree. Re ride all over the state in Vic. Try to mix it up. Awesome that your back on the bikes, it's been the best thing for physical and mental health for us. Cheers 💪💪👍
Well i have x trainer 2015 . Also have a 23 350. I really love the ktm. And your right these 4 strokes love the open tracks. But can go where my x trainer has gone. The only thing i find is it much better going slow on the x trainer . I would thing the 500 501 would be similar to my 350 just with more power. Nice vid.
Both my favourite bikes your have in your garage. The 350 is the best all round in my opinion (I've had 2). Different rides/bikes for different mood and conditions is perfect. Legend Cheers 💪💪💪👍🙏
Great "vibe" review 😂 thanks. Always wondered how rhe 501/500 would go compared to a 2-stroke.
Haha the vibe was good all day!!
Interesting you found it fine to ride in the tight stuff. I wouldn’t have assumed it would be fun in there.
Adam it was very easy and fun to ride in the snotty stuff. Way better than I had anticipated!
Fun day out trying the Husky 501 today. Let us know if you ride a big 4-stroke in the bush and how you find it!
nice trail i like my xtrainer too....
Since before he had the motoes torque pipe he had the fmf fatty, can you comment on the differences? I currently have the fmf performance pipe and it gives me way more torque and mid high end, but i want even more low end.
I can barely tell the difference between the 2 with regards to power. The torque pipe is much stronger construction. It also look better which obviously makes you go faster! 😜 Cheers 🙏👍💪
Take it out on more open higher speed trails with some woops and jumps. I have a 22 XT and I find it really down on power for a 300 Also I find the XT harsh on small bumps and way too soft on small jumps. I had a Yamaha DT200 2 stroke dual purpose years ago and it had better suspension and more power than the XT. It was impressive.
Agree with you on the standard Xt. All the mods we did on our other XT fixed all the issues you mentioned. Cheers 🙏👍
Your MPG numbers are incorrect because you have not converted to Imperial gallons you have converted to US gallons. 10l/100kms = 28.25 MPG (Imperial). More importantly this also affects your range numbers.
Hi. Our intension here was to provide (US) Gallons as that's where the majority of our audience is from.
I have seen some reviews were the rider looks like they are riding on the soles of their feet, I ride on the balls of my feet and stand 95% of the time, do the regular steg pegz move back far enough to allow this foot position or do I need the ones for dessert riding? I am on. KTM 500 excf.
Hi. they have a lot of movement front and back. You can also cut a slightly longer slot if you really need to. We have a set on a 20 husky fe501 and they are great. They also have the wider desert king option if you really need them. I run 1 pick and 2 large metal washers and am happy with that. Cheers 💪💪🙏👌👍
@@HardUNdurothanks for the info👍
Im 6'2 320lbs should i consider the RR?
Hi, yes definitely, it's a bit taller and probably more suited to your height. Also the suspension is better straight up. Cheers 👍👍
Awesome terrain
Go with Bendix from Super Cheap
I like this bike but they should pay more attention to the suspension issue, unless they are closed cartridge.
100% in my opinion the stock suspension is junk.
How does that compare to a wr250f?
Hi Paul. Totally different bikes and feel in my opinion. 4 stroke vs 2 stroke for starters. The WR feels a lot heavier. I do like the WR as a 4 stroke tho but I would take a KTM 350 over it any day. Hard to give an exact comparison for those reasons.
@@HardUNduro Thank you so much for replying. I appreciate the advice, my main concern is fuel range as we go on long rides in the middle of nowhere. Also would you say that now European bikes reliability is equal to Japanese?
Good to see everyone getting out and havjng a crack 💪
What upgraded spring rates did you go with?
I believe it was 9.0k. 90kg+
Great content! I spent a lot of time in rain mode on my 22 300rr in the beginning. Took some time to find good fork settings, too. 110mm oil level, springs for my weight, clickers,l soft, bleed the air sitting on the bike...i may try 10wt on the comp leg next. No xtrainers available in Texas when I bought. At 5'9" I would have liked to sit on an XT! I fell a lot at the start, cause i couldn't touch easy. My son says my 300 feels small compared to his Husky TC250, an MX weapon for sure. I guess it's all relative.
Ahh yes, we forgot to test rain mode. Maybe next time. A dialled in 300 RR is a beast for sure. 💪💪👍
Great video fellas! Showcasing the Aussie bush and some fair to middling riding😁
Cheers. Yes and greatly appreciate the up sell to fair and middle haha 🙏🙏🙏🙏💪👍
Good vid,I ride the RR as the XT definitely lacks performance i need and to small.At 6'2" and 115 lbs before gear the RR definitely fits me better.I have used yhe RR in hard enduro and hare scrambles and it was a great pick.My bike has upgraded suspension because i found the stock stuff wanting a little.
Thanks Jeff. Yes I would agree that those like yourself who are tall the Xtrainer would be possibly too small in size. RR is an awesome bike. Cheers 💪💪🙏👍
That's a MX-Gang right there ;)
Yep Hard Core. Or softcore.maybe a mix.🤣💪
bike name pplz..
Ktm 350
You can’t really compare the suspension seeing as it’s fully clicker adjustable. Did you try different settings? Or try the different map settings? Definitely agree on the height though. Even the 200rr is tall as anything. Also I’m not trying to bust ya balls. But get some decent tracks to ride on. That was all slow, tight, sandy shit. Right conditions and set up and I think you would have a different opinion. Peace fellas. 👍
Cheers yea we were definitely limited on time and locations sadly. 👍🙏
Hi guys I'm Roberto and I'm writing to you from italy. i own a 2024 xtainer300 i wanted to ask you if it's advisable to eliminate the thermostatic valve by replacing the original tubes whit a special siliicone set and possibly the cooling fan (in about ten outings you won't is never activated) not doin hard but only forest road.
Hi Roberto. I have done that on all my last few bikes but not yet on the Xtrainer. I've heard that the Xtrainer Samco hoses and thermo delete weren't quite fitting correctly but they may have updated them now. I believe if your climate is extremely cold it's best to keep the thermo installed. If you climate is medium/hot etc I like to delete them. I like to have a fan but we ride more extreme slow. The strainer fan barely comes on anyway, seems it's a fairly cool engine. No harm deleting it if you really want it out of the way . Hope this helps, thanks for watching. 🙏🙏🙏💪
@@HardUNduro Thanks for the prompt reply, I think it eliminates the valve and probably also the fan, in my XT mounted the FRESCO exaust by modifying the jet carburetion mi.38-max.162 needle N2ZV obtaining exellent power especially at low revs. I also changed the air filter cage with that of the rr. I also mounted ergal foottrests and a lot of ergal and titanium bolt to make the bike more beautiful
I have an SC2 36mm on my old 05 ktm 300 and after a little fiddling, slight float adjustment, slight lean adjustment and idle adjustment, the bike is an absolute weapon, runs beautifully with the smartcarb. Lugs down low and sings up high
Hi guys i m 1.90 m for 90 kg do you think that this bike could be suitable for me ? thanks
Howdy. It's hard to tell for tall guys, I'm about 1.78m and 90 kg and i love the smaller frame size. The power in my opinion will be fine but it's just the size. You may need bar risers etc definitely with a test ride if you can get one. 👍 Let us know how you go. Cheers
Only very slow riding. Is that the right element for the RR?
The RR loves to go fast. And if you're very capable it can handle the technical also. 👍👍💪