Which do you prefer? The Xtrainer with a pipe and suspension upgrade or the Standard Xtrainer?

@dejandezman6139

4 ай бұрын

I bought a new Xtrainer last year. 2 years ago, I had a rental test vehicle at the dealer. That one had better suspension and really rode nicely. When I went a little faster with mine on the slightly undulating macadam, I felt like I was on a boat. I just preferred to ease off the throttle and go pretty slow. So that I decided to upgrade or I'm changing the suspension on mine. It's a lot better now, and I've probably gotten used to it a bit. I have now driven 18 hours. But I still have a lot of built-in protection. In addition, I also have a second exhaust pipe that comes from the engine. If you have an email or maybe Facebook, I can send you some pictures, and we can discuss the motorcycle a little more.

Both bike sound a bit spluttery and rich to me down low. The jetting I settled on after lots of testing was. (32 pilot 150 main and Suzuki needle NECJ on the 2nd from top clip).My bike rips now and is so smooth with no splutter anywhere. My fuel consumption has reduced dramatically well.

@HardUNduro

3 ай бұрын

Yes they were a tad on the rich side. At the time we were still running them in and dialing in the carby. The fun never ends! 💪

48 and riding a 21 kx-450, i love it but this beta bike interests me a lot. the 450 has been great but as Ive gone through youre videos looking and looking at many bikes this may be the route i go. thank you for showing this bike and explaining it. the pimped bike sounds awesome lugging

@HardUNduro

3 ай бұрын

G’day. We used to have 450’s also and I don’t know how I ever wrangled those. The Xtrainer cops it’s fair share of flack but I’ve never heard anyone that’s ridden one say a bad word about them. And then you can do what Furz has and add a few things to it and you have a pretty unbeatable bike for a lot of people! A lot of the dealers have a demo if you get the chance to try one!

Love the look of the red white & blue.

@HardUNduro

4 ай бұрын

Thanks. The Omega graphics kit looks amazing! Really suits the bike.

First gents, thank you for great content that is getting slicker with each new video. Nice job. Also thank you for representing Mr Average Joe which you rightly point out the XT is actually very good at delivering in bucketfuls for the weekend warrior after a few sensible mods. Love my '22 in the right colour scheme 🙂with similar mods. Namely FMF Gnarly producing good low down torque and a nice increase in power in conjunction with the NETC needle middle clip 38 pilot, 160 main at sea level in the UK riding this time of year 10-15C. Major mod that has really woken the bike up. Apart from adding the IMS 11lL tank, Seat Concepts comfort seat and 14 to 15 front tooth which for the on average 100 mile days I need trail riding in UK which includes 60+ road miles the other big improvement came from similar (relatively) low cost K-Tech ORVS front/rear piston kit and respring on the front. Good value for money which for me has removed a lot of front deflection and bounciness now it's sprung to my weight. Only thing you didn't mention is that the power gains from the pipe can be calmed down with the adjustable power valve so that it doesn't spoil (for me) that great progressive and controllable torque before the power really comes in. Also I haven't done the airbox mod which others say opens it up further, but I think just the pipe/jetting/power valve combination is plenty for the average weekend trail rider. Looking forward to more from you guys on the XT experience 👍👍

@HardUNduro

5 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for the kind word it means a lot. We continue to have no idea what we're doing but it's fun and we hope our "averagness" gets everyone out on the bikes. I haven't yet played with the powervalve "yet" it's something I'm keen to do when I really know how the bike runs after some time getting used to it. Thanks for letting us know your setup, it's interesting to see what tweaks and settings work for everyone. Legend Cheers 💪💪👍👍

I’ve got a 125 rr factory and it rips , traction is spot on

@HardUNduro

4 ай бұрын

Nice, that would be a lot of fun!

If you're not a racer the Beta is probably the best bike for most riders. Very forgiving.

@HardUNduro

5 ай бұрын

After our experiences with it I would 100% agree! Thanks🙏

@elvispusley3515

4 ай бұрын

Wonkaland, it has nothing to do if your a Racer or not. The bike doesn’t care.

If you unwind the power valve adjustment screw 1 turn I found that made a great improvement with the stock pipe.

@HardUNduro

4 ай бұрын

Ahh great thanks. I might do that to Al's stock bike and not tell him 🤣🤣

Really like the comparison, well done guys! You may want to try a different jetting. Instead of the JD try a NECW needle in clip 3, standard size pilot jet, 160 main jet (NECW is much! richer/thinner in the last part than either JD red or blue). Gives a super linear feeling. We had my Xtrainer on the Dino and the 300 RR pipe together with jetting gained solid 10 hp. You both have installed the front tugger strap wrong. It should be installed UNDER the lower triple clamp and the brake line/speedo cable should be inside the loop. Greetings from the other side of the planet (Austria) Steve

@HardUNduro

5 ай бұрын

Hi Steve, thanks for the info. I actually just picked up the NECW needle so I will follow your tip and give it a go. Good catch with the tugger strap, 100% asleep when I installed it haha. I LOVE Austria, one of my favourite places to visit. I was there last year again, sadly at the wrong time for Erzberg (hopefully this year). Thanks for watching and the great info 🥇👍👍💪

@Steveman61

5 ай бұрын

@@HardUNduro Maybe I can meet you at Erzberg 🙂 BTW, 50% of my family live in Melbourne, so I naturally love Australia!

@HardUNduro

5 ай бұрын

Oh wow your joking?? It's a small world! 100% I'll do a meet up in Austria (anyway). Keep in touch, you can DM us on our Instagram if you like. Thanks Steve

I’ve got 125 rr factory and it rips , great traction

@HardUNduro

4 ай бұрын

Nice! That would be a great little weapon on flat tack and wood single. How do you find it on hill climbs?

@redneck1994

4 ай бұрын

@@HardUNduro a bit of clutch work to keep traction and up it goes

@HardUNduro

4 ай бұрын

Nice!

Motoes have provided a 10% discount code for their website for anyone interested: “MOTOES24”

So about 600 bucks and the RR pipe tranforms the X Trainer into a more capable bike. Along with jetting. Sounds good to me.

@HardUNduro

4 ай бұрын

Yeah spot on!

Hi, Great vid and I’ve had a 2018 Husqvarna TE300 which I loved but honestly it was way more than I ever needed so I’m going to get an X-Trainer and would like to pick your brain. Can you give some details on the exact parts you have put on and where you got them from. Thank you.

@HardUNduro

3 ай бұрын

Hi Simon. Happy to hear you’re going to get an Xtrainer. There is a list of some of the parts on this bike in the description as well as discussed at the start of the video. Our next video to be released will be a full breakdown and explanation of everything on this ‘pimped’ Xtrainer so that should answer your questions. What country are you in?

@simonjones5964

3 ай бұрын

@@HardUNduro I’m located in Lake Macquarie (NSW) at the base of the Watagan mountains.

@HardUNduro

3 ай бұрын

@@simonjones5964nice. The information in the next video will be perfect for you then!

Great comparison fellas. I think the take home for me is the suspension upgrade seems to sit well with anyone from around 70 to 90 kg which is great. How does it compare with your old KTM Furry?

@HardUNduro

5 ай бұрын

Yea it's a lot more nimble and feels way lighter, much easier to manoeuvre and flick around. Cheers 🙏🙏🙏👍💪

Here in australia the ktm 300 exc starts at $18500 and the Xtrainer is $12500.

@hostol182

5 ай бұрын

Thats crazy prices over there

@rehepeks

5 ай бұрын

@@hostol182 If he is talking about prices in AUD then thats not crazy. Its around same as in Europe. 18500AUD is around 11200EUR and 12500AUD is 7600EUR. Prices here are 11430 for the 300EXC and 7412EUR for Xtrainer.

@hostol182

5 ай бұрын

@@rehepeks ya once I change aud to cad the beta is same price but they pay 6k more for the ktm EXC / XCW

Nice

@HardUNduro

5 ай бұрын

Thanks Mate

Since before he had the motoes torque pipe he had the fmf fatty, can you comment on the differences? I currently have the fmf performance pipe and it gives me way more torque and mid high end, but i want even more low end.

@HardUNduro

19 күн бұрын

I can barely tell the difference between the 2 with regards to power. The torque pipe is much stronger construction. It also look better which obviously makes you go faster! 😜 Cheers 🙏👍💪

nice trail i like my xtrainer too....

hi i recently did the motoes pipe upgrade WOW what a difference did you remove the power valve spacer aswell ps i put the power valve adjuster on so you can turn the powervalve screw in and out with your hand which really changes how the power delivers

@HardUNduro

5 ай бұрын

Hi. Agree it's a huge difference in power delivery. No I left the spacer as I've heard it keeps more of the bottom end Torque. I haven't yet played with the power valve. How much adjustment to the PV did you do and what effect did it have? Cheers 💪💪👍

@leescoey

5 ай бұрын

hi i had flush with the casing at first as i had it like that with the stock exhaust but i found it best around 1 and quarterish turns in from flush but i ride more like slow techy stuff hardly ever flatout@@HardUNduro

@leescoey

5 ай бұрын

ps tell your mate to swap out the front fork oil to 15 weight as that makes a difference before spending a lot of money on the front end

@HardUNduro

5 ай бұрын

Thanks. I'll.have a play with it. 👍👍

I have a 22 xt with Lucky inserts and amp tuned. Just ordered the Motoes pipe but like on the video I might miss the power of stock. Hope its as controllable down low.

@HardUNduro

5 ай бұрын

I felt that the pipe and carb tune definitely made the bike a bit more wild down low, nothing like a full size enduro bike tho. I think you could easily gear it to suit your stile tho. The 13/49 for 1st and second was more zippy, maybe the standard 14/49 would mellow it out. Let us know tho. Thanks for watching. 🙏🙏💪👍

@HardUNduro

5 ай бұрын

Also... How is the Lucky inserts???? I had them before on the KTM and they are magic!!.

@raineyet

5 ай бұрын

The lucky inserts are very noticeably better than stock. One of the big advantages of the luckys is you get a compression adjuster at the bottom of the fork tube, not just rebound like stock. Adjustment is noticeable and is great going form slow riding to fast. I don't see why you would do a fork swap with this option available, I would just get a RR model.@@HardUNduro

@HardUNduro

5 ай бұрын

@@raineyetthat would be great to have compression adjustment too. Glad you like your setup!

What upgraded spring rates did you go with?

@HardUNduro

Ай бұрын

I believe it was 9.0k. 90kg+

Here a 2024 beta 300 xtrainer is only $600 less then a 2024 xcw 300 would you buy the beta with you price that close?

@HardUNduro

5 ай бұрын

Wow where is that?

@CrTopher_

5 ай бұрын

I would still get the Beta ONLY due to the smaller frame and smooth bottom lug The KTM is superior in 90% elsewhere . In my opinion.

@hostol182

5 ай бұрын

@@HardUNduro Alberta Canada xtrainer is 10599 xcw 300 on sale for 11199

@hostol182

5 ай бұрын

@@HardUNduro Alberta Canada 10599 beta 11199 xcw

@CrTopher_

5 ай бұрын

@@hostol182 wow!!!! We get smashed here with prices!! 😭😭

Hi guys i m 1.90 m for 90 kg do you think that this bike could be suitable for me ? thanks

@HardUNduro

2 ай бұрын

Howdy. It's hard to tell for tall guys, I'm about 1.78m and 90 kg and i love the smaller frame size. The power in my opinion will be fine but it's just the size. You may need bar risers etc definitely with a test ride if you can get one. 👍 Let us know how you go. Cheers

I got so lost trying to figure out who's talking and what bike you were talking about. Too much switching camera/bikes. Sure one bike while talking about it. Switch bikes and talk about that one.

@HardUNduro

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for letting us know. I added the "follow cam notification" on the bottom left of the screen during those riding scenes so you would know. I'll try to make it more obvious in the future. Thanks