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  @blynn6240Сағат бұрын

  Thanks for the review Keith! I decided to go for it and I LOVE this printer. It’s exactly what I wanted- a more entry level photography printer, with amazing reds, a bigger color gamut, a large format that isn’t freaking GIANT and the print quality or “dot grain” is so much smoother than my last printer. Ink costs have been the only negative for me, but luckily I do relatively low volume, as what I’m printing is so small many will fit on one page so I can get away with a couple full color sheets a week (and some other home type printing). But I wouldn’t get this if you do large volume printing as the ink will get expensive fast- Epson ET 8550/8500 might be a better fit if you don’t HAVE to have the red ink like I did. But I print brightly colored graphics and no matter how many papers/media settings/printer settings I’ve tried, I haven’t ever been happy with any of the lighter bright reds mixed with magenta/yellow ink ..mostly I’ve found that the more yellow you add to the Magenta, the more dull it appears…so you kind of have to go with a fairly dark red with low yellow content to get vibrant reds. Not anymore! 🎉 Red ink would also be great for more realistic skin tones. But most people aren’t red ink obsessed like I am lol…. If it doesn’t matter to you, I’d check out Keith’s reviews on the ET 8500/8550👍

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  @leszekkalinowski24362 сағат бұрын

  Hi, which one of these two would you recommend for sublimation conversion??

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  @andreigheorghe27094 сағат бұрын

  Everytime I see your videos, I want to print on and on, but sadly can't afford it for now. I love your videos

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  @icelandic9695 сағат бұрын

  I am a photographer looking to make the jump to printing my own images. Selecting a printer has been a bit of a nightmare as I cannot afford the top end but how low can I go? You answered that question clearly. Thanks for the help!

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  @KeithCooper4 сағат бұрын

  Glad to help!

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  @lynsmith10965 сағат бұрын

  Another good video Keith

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  @KeithCooper4 сағат бұрын

  Thanks

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  @rlast1236 сағат бұрын

  Keith, thanks for bringing this topic. You explained the relation with the print head going left and right and the precize placement of the drops. Is there no relation with the paper advance system (which I thought it was)?

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  @KeithCooper5 сағат бұрын

  Thanks Yes, the paper advance system is part of this - just didn't want to get too technical ;-)

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  @jamesmgreen157 сағат бұрын

  Great tips...

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  @KeithCooper5 сағат бұрын

  Thanks

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  @jean-claudemuller31997 сағат бұрын

  Thank you Kieth, is head alignment depending on paper thinkness/ quality setting or head height ajustment ?

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  @KeithCooper7 сағат бұрын

  Yes, but for most people, ignore that and just follow the screen instructions... ;-) If you know about such things, you are well above the level of familiarity I'm assuming for this video ;-) For basic tests, I'll normally use the paper as suggested in the printer manual, unless I'm creating media types or always use a specific paper, which is different from the defaults for the media setting I'm using. Once you start getting into the detailed stuff, it becomes very printer dependent.

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  @robertmartin28987 сағат бұрын

  thanks for your help🙂

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  @KeithCooper7 сағат бұрын

  Thanks - glad it's of interest

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  @fabioferracaneVideo8 сағат бұрын

  Very good to have found your video. Can I ask you if it's possible to take shift photos with APS-C cameras? Is there any limitation? I'll buy your book. Thanks a lot

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  @KeithCooper7 сағат бұрын

  No limitations other than that imposed by the crop - the subject is addressed in the book. For example: 10mm of shift shows much more apparent effect on a crop sensor than it does on a larger one. It means that a left/centre/right shift multi-shot panoramic is narrower. It also means that you need shorter focal lengths to get wide angle views in a single shot. Lenses like the Laowa 15mm shift are excellent on APS-C

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  @ateliercunha287611 сағат бұрын

  Thanks 🙏

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  @KeithCooper9 сағат бұрын

  Still not found the manual...

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  @robertnicholls231611 сағат бұрын

  Hi Keith, do you mind if I ask no a question about this printer , I’d v like to print out diagrams on ordinary paper up to 2m, what would be the best ordinary roll paper to use ( obviously cut to size ) Hopefully you can help Regards Bob

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  @KeithCooper9 сағат бұрын

  I don't believe it will go that full length - check the specs [mac and pc are different] A matte heavyweight paper of at least 240gsm. It needs to be an inkjet paper though - there are not many papers in 13" though. 24" slit will do 12" width, or cuts from a 44" roll

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  @johncl2711 сағат бұрын

  I have the X S10 and a PC and have downloaded and installed the software, connected my camera...it shows up in the app but no live view...I can take a photo and it will come up in the preview window and it will save it to a chosen folder...the connection setting is set to USB TETHER SHOOTING AUTO...how do I get the live view working?

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  @KeithCooper9 сағат бұрын

  Have you read the compatibility chart? fujifilm-x.com/global/support/compatibility/software/tether-app/ Does a plugin need installing? - the GFX setting says to specifically remove any such plugin. I don't have any X cameras to test this

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  @johncl278 сағат бұрын

  @@KeithCooper the X S10 is listed as being compatible but I have just noticed that the chart does have a note to say that "All functions are available if FUJIFILM Tether Shooting Plug-in PRO is installed on the computer." Maybe the capture functions...so does control of settings like film sims and all their controls but the live view seems to be the only thing missing to me....I'll do some more testing tomorrow before shelling out USD$79 for the plug-in

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  @AM-bq4cx14 сағат бұрын

  There is no software in this kit?

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  @KeithCooper9 сағат бұрын

  Yes, there is - software for monitor and printer calibration

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  @JNDS.Creates15 сағат бұрын

  i feel like you are the only person who can answer my question. - is there a waterproof ink for this printer?? i am a watercolor artist looking to make my line art digitally and then paint over it sometimes with heavy washes of water. inking traditional works (india ink) but again for editing i want that part in digital. - thank you or anyone who can point me in the right direction

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  @KeithCooper9 сағат бұрын

  There is nothing from Epson - You will need to put any such inks into a brand new uninitialised printer [goodbye warranty] For third party inks, look for pigment ink sets - however, even they are likely to need an inkjet compatible paper. There may be other inks which would go in the printer, but unless you are doing your own colour management and profiling, results are unpredictable. People have put all sorts of inks through this printer, but the chances of killing the printer stone dead in days/weeks are not insignificant. My testing of this is limited - Most printers i get are loans, so manufacturers are unlikely to appreciate printers returned with some unknown colour goop in them ;-)

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  @JNDS.Creates38 минут бұрын

  @@KeithCooper would you be willing to buy a sheet of arches watercolour paper 300gsm-640gsm and print with this printers ink and then spray it with water for me? the only epson ink ive found tested by watercolour artists used dura brite ink and I have no idea if I can find that for this printer, and like you said that could kill the printer and I dont want to be out 1k$. it has everything I want in a printer other than I need to know if it prints waterproof on watercolour paper. - also thank you for your quick reply I feel so hopeless in my search for a printer.

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  @roguemarvel18 сағат бұрын

  Thank you so much for this! I do a lot of printing out of my home for family and other artists and my p900 has been taken a beating (we also have a p7570 but I like being able to do cut sheets) and I I was thinking we need to make a change and I didn't want to lose the ultrachrome ink so I'm so happy to see this model and all your details on it. This answers a lot of questions, I had. Thank you again!

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  @KeithCooper9 сағат бұрын

  Glad it was helpful!

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  @mulberryks196518 сағат бұрын

  Thank you.

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  @KeithCooper18 сағат бұрын

  You're welcome!

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  @grahamwalton641820 сағат бұрын

  I have got the Epson Stylus Pro 3880, which is a great printer. However it has 9 catridges that now cost £55 each. I find that this is far too expensive. I know that some people are now using compatable cartridges for the Epson Stylus Pro but following past experience, I am wary of non genuine ink. To reduce costs for A4 printing I bought a Canon Pixma G650 Ink Tank Printer, which I find is really good and is cheap to run. With the right paper mono is also very good. I do have a need to also print quite a lot of A3 prints and am looking for an A3 version of the G650. However, it seem that the only printer that currently fits that role is the Epson ET- 8550. Come on Canon an A3 version of the Pixma G650 would be ideal.

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  @KeithCooper20 сағат бұрын

  For myself an A3+ version of the G650 would be just as useless from a colour management POV unless Canon provide a proper driver for it. There is nothing to match the et-8550 for the time being

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  @ateliercunha287620 сағат бұрын

  Where is the manual? Can´t find it.

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  @KeithCooper20 сағат бұрын

  Not found one myself either - adds to the fun :-)

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  @tmartin671722 сағат бұрын

  Thanks for the update, I will definitely use it.

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  @KeithCooper22 сағат бұрын

  Thanks

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  @imranmuhammКүн бұрын

  Good contact. Thanks for your effort. 👍

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  @KeithCooper23 сағат бұрын

  Thanks

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  @Pat-1000Күн бұрын

  I must get this , thank you for the heads up Keith , separately would you have a link for that small light you have lit please.

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  @KeithCooperКүн бұрын

  Thanks - see here for details about the light www.northlight-images.co.uk/video-gc30-led-lamp/

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  @Pat-1000Күн бұрын

  @@KeithCooper Thank you so much

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  @rustyneuronКүн бұрын

  I have this printer and ran glossy paper through, selected meduym glossy paper in properties and turned off high speed printing, and the colors came out really good.

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  @KeithCooperКүн бұрын

  Yes, it can manage very reasonable results, for a relatively basic printer.

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  @stephanzobeley9443Күн бұрын

  I have checked this yesterday and it's quite good and so far reliable. Fuji is saying this works as a plugin with LR, I wonder how that would work ? It's not starting up automatically when I start tethered capture in LR and there is no way to start it from the plugin manager. It works on it's own and automated with a watched folder in LR, though. But you still have to switch between the two apps. Hmmh...

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  @KeithCooperКүн бұрын

  Yes - a good one. Can't help with LR though, but it does get mentioned in a popup when you first start the software

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  @markmalboeuf8675Күн бұрын

  I got it working in LrC - I did have to go in and trash the prior Tether Pro plugin, per the Note *1 item in the install instructions for the GFX100/50 cameras. If that is installed, you can see where it is by selecting it in the Plugin Manager in LrC - that will show the path to it. AFAICT, you only get a floating bar with basic info and shutter button, so you still want the App itself open for Live View.

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  @stephanzobeley9443Күн бұрын

  @@markmalboeuf8675 thx Mark will check

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  @imranmuhammКүн бұрын

  Sounds good, finally we got something as I’ve been waiting for. 👍

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  @sickonit1Күн бұрын

  Hi Keith, I received my new Epson ET-8500 a few days ago and I wanted to say a big thank you for your detailed and easy to understand talk through of setting this printer up. It's refreshing to have someone who is articulate and down to earth in their approach. I've looked at the Epson manuals and done a web search but am struggling to find any guidance on what options to use for "power" settings. Auto Power: On or Off (On was already ticked) Power Off Settings: Power Off If Inactive - Off, 30mins, 1hr, 2hr, etc. (Off was already ticked). Power Off If Disconnected: Off or On (Off was already ticked). I will be using the printer for printing some emails, pdfs, and some 4x6 photos too but this won't be every day - so what do you recommend I se the above items to? Hoping you can advise. Regards,

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  @KeithCooperКүн бұрын

  I'd leave them at defaults - I don't know of any specific benefits from changing them If you've not seen them, do check my 8500/8550 written reviews - more detailed info than the videos www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-et-8550-printer-review/ and www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-et-8500-printer-review/

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  @MrMick560Күн бұрын

  Many thanks, always nicely explained.

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  @KeithCooperКүн бұрын

  Thanks

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  @lincjennyКүн бұрын

  Thank you Keith!!! I spent so much time search online and couldn't find a solution. I am glad I found your video!

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  @KeithCooperКүн бұрын

  Glad it helped!

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  @baobo67Күн бұрын

  Thanks Keith, Very helpful.Subscribed. Cheers from Australia.

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  @KeithCooperКүн бұрын

  Thanks!

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  @Gary_HunКүн бұрын

  If some sort of a brand new way of getting the image onto paper surfaced... it will take 30 years to "plateau" like the others. Also known as "to become worthy of attention".

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  @KeithCooperКүн бұрын

  Any suggestions?

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  @jjayladКүн бұрын

  Another alternative is what I devised for myself. I print one, 4x6, adjust my laptop monitor so it matches that print as close as possible. Then I edit the photos until happy with what I see and then print my images at whatever size I want up to my printer's max of 11x17. WYSIWYG!. This works with my inkjets and results from commercial printers match very closely because most of the industry is using similar standards. Until I started doing this I was wasting ink, paper and money spent on prints and books. Since I started doing this I've had no problems at all.

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  @KeithCooperКүн бұрын

  Ah, the good old closed loop approach to colour management. I'll still pick an icc profile based one - but if it works for you...

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  @MrTedJourney2 күн бұрын

  Life saver Keith, thanks so much!!! Epson ET-2850 on iMac M3 boom! At flipping last.

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  @KeithCooper2 күн бұрын

  Glad it helped!

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  @66xtopher2 күн бұрын

  How would you suggest printing off the test print you supply without being affected by the monitor calibration or software? Print it directly from Say windows and using default paper profiles? ( I have calibrated monitor and custom Hahnemule paper profiles). Should the test print be compared with a test print from a professional print version?

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  @KeithCooper2 күн бұрын

  The test image should be printed with exactly the same workflow as you would for any image you wanted to print. Monitor settings have nothing to do with it. If you print your photos from 'windows with default profiles', then do that. If you print using a particular bit of software, use that. Just use this image instead of one of your own. Read the details on the download page as to what to look for www.northlight-images.co.uk/printer-test-images/ There is no physical 'master print' to compare it with

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  @66xtopher2 күн бұрын

  @@KeithCooper thank you. I thought you said in your video the test print was to alleviate Workflow problems. My monitor was calibrated and the profile is always in use and I use Photoshop and I use a calibrated paper profile. I should use that then follow your guide.

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  @KeithCooper2 күн бұрын

  Yes the test image removes variables. If you get a problem, it helps narrow down where it is. It takes the monitor and any image editing right out of the process - I have several related videos see: www.northlight-images.co.uk/keith-cooper-photography-videos-index/

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  @user-fw7er9cm9j2 күн бұрын

  I am a digital artist. I have been making digital art for quite a while now. So i want to expand my work to physical prints also mainly limited editions , A3+ max size. I have looked into several printere and narrowed down to these : Dye based :Canon Pro 200, Canon IP8770, Epson ET 8550 pigment based : Canon Pro 300 and Epson SC P700 For IP8770 i cant find any videos or reviews. Its quite affordable as compared to all other options but uses dye based ink cartridges Which one will be suitable. I will be using fine art matt paper 270 to 300 gsm. I have talked to some of my artist friends and they suggest using archival quality printer and paper.

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  @KeithCooper2 күн бұрын

  For IP8770 - it's too old - not one I've covered even in my main written reviews [there are only a few lower end printers I cover] It all depends on quality and the market you are in. Pigment inks are what I'd prefer for sales [pigment and archival are good marketing terms - add in 'Giclee', if your market wants it ;-) ] One point I'd make though, which a lot of 'digital' artists discover, is that matching screens and prints is tricky, especially if you use devices like iPads, which have essentially no functional colour management. Whatever paper you use will also need an icc profile for it, and print from a proper computer. See the bit about art repro in my main et-8550 review [the written one] www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-et-8550-printer-review/ The 8550 is my usual suggestion for people not wanting the expense/costs of the larger pigment ink printers - note the bit in the review about the importance of paper/ink choices

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  @alanglassman64732 күн бұрын

  You would think that with all the paper handling issues being reported with P700-900s, Epson would be expediting an update to address the issues. I recently upgraded my good old P800 with a P5370, and could not be happier. It’s a monster but the paper handling is far superior. Worth it.

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  @KeithCooper2 күн бұрын

  Yes, the P5300 is very nice in that respect.

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  @jbairdexp2 күн бұрын

  OMG, I just wish Canon would release a refresh to the Pro-1000 just to shut people up! lol But seriously, always your no nonsense approach to these things is greatly appreciated. 🙂

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  @KeithCooper2 күн бұрын

  Thanks - we have a while to go I think...

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  @jbairdexp2 күн бұрын

  @@KeithCooper Just as well, as despite my previous statement, it is likely a printer I would purchase but I need save my pennies! 🙂

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  @adrianwild20942 күн бұрын

  Informative and entertaining viewing .

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  @KeithCooper2 күн бұрын

  Thanks - glad it was of interest

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  @fcemari2 күн бұрын

  Dear Cooper, Thanks for your precious informationsand reviews that I follow for years. I would like to ask for your advice on spyder print, actually. I see that on your blog that you have a review of it on BW. But I couldn't find any video of you about it. Therefore I am asking you here, if you don't mind. Let say that I am an amateur photographer, have an LG display, Epson ET 8550 printer and Mac Mini M1. I own datacolor Spyder X and to my amateur eyes it is okay. What I want have is ICC profiles for different cheaper papers which will have acceptable color accuracy and be used as pirnt outs on my wall or album. For example Kodak papers are much cheaper than EPSON ones where I live. As I cannot find icc profiles of many papers that are sold here, than I need a color profiler hardware, I suppose. Most of these devices are too expensive to own for an amateur photographer. Up to my knowledge sypderprint is the cheapest one. My question is if it is worth have one or just go with trial and error printing many examples? Thanks Cem

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  @KeithCooper2 күн бұрын

  The best cheap one for paper profiles is the i1Studio/Colormunki/ccStudio. My suggestion is to buy paper from a supplier who will make/supply profiles - Kodak branded papers are not somewhere I'd go - they often perform poorly in Canon and Epson printers [based on past testing] Maybe different now, but I'd not use them [it's Keith BTW - no one has called me by my surname since I was at school... ;-) :-) ]

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  @fcemari2 күн бұрын

  @@KeithCooper Thanks a lot. Much appreciated. By the way, I know you are Keith, but I am used to call with surname, unless allowed by the counterpart. 😊

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  @KeithCooper2 күн бұрын

  Not to worry! - addressing someone here [UK] by surname only [without Mr/Mrs etc] only happens in some schools, the military and prisons...

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  @RogerHyam2 күн бұрын

  Hi Keith. Thanks for all these videos they are useful for me. I'm getting back into inkjet printing and firing up the old Epson R3000 with Marrutt inks and papers. I'm really pleased with the way it performs and don't have an intention of changing it but have a philosophical question. Has inkjet printer quality plateaued with regard to use by an art photographer? We have been in the marginal gains area with digital cameras for about a decade now (if you aren't into sports or videography). Is the same true of the mid ground of inkjet printing? Perhaps you've already covered this.

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  @KeithCooper2 күн бұрын

  A few new developments in coatings, but sustainability will matter more - papers that can be recycled will become more common Nothing many will notice - good profiles, skill and inks are what really matter

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  @What_Other_Hobbies2 күн бұрын

  I have printed on the wrong side before. Not once, but multiple times.

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  @KeithCooper2 күн бұрын

  Easier to do than some think, with some papers...

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  @ValdiValdies2 күн бұрын

  4:10 this is what is driving me crazy.. it is green on my prints and I don't understand what causes this. Canon pixma pro 10 with some off brand glossy paper. As far as I understand it's not my monitor because it's downloaded ready to print image.

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  @KeithCooper2 күн бұрын

  Asked and answered... "some off brand glossy paper"

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  @ValdiValdies2 күн бұрын

  I want nice prints, but I hate printing so much... Last time i tried to get nice prints out of Pixma pro 10 was 2 years ago and didn't touch the printer ever since.. now again.. a try to fix this very dark dull muddy mood in prints and I simply can't understand why they come out of printer so dark.. Skin color is so messed up with green tint.. Trying to print from photoshop, lighroom, canons Print Studio Pro... this is driving me crazy

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  @KeithCooper2 күн бұрын

  Test with a known paper and correct icc profile

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  @d.76412 күн бұрын

  Great video and product, thanks

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  @KeithCooper2 күн бұрын

  Yes, I might get a used one once the mk2 comes out ;-) [this is one of my earliest videos]

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  @Alvin_Berg2052 күн бұрын

  Just ordered your book!

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  @KeithCooper2 күн бұрын

  Thanks - hope you find it of use!

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  @Fujik19662 күн бұрын

  Keith, You write - "...teleconverter as just enlarging the lens image circle, rather than a focal length multiplier." Does this mean that the teleconverter in operation increases the image circle (for example, the diameter of the lens image circle is 51 mm, multiply by 1.4 = 71.4 mm.) Or is this just a mathematical indicator. In the end, we will still get a circle from TC x1.4 51 mm. Why am I asking this question? Will the Canon TC x1.4 give us a sufficient image circle for the Fuji GFX system when installing any Canon lens on the GFX via adapters - Lens EF+TC x1.4+EF-GFX? I don't have a Canon TC x1.4, and the GFX TC x1.4 is not suitable for these experiments.(Google Transletter) Eduard.

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  @KeithCooper2 күн бұрын

  It's not that simple - note that in this video, I'm specifically talking about TCs with tilt and shift and the original camera. A somewhat different topic. I have no idea, for example, whether the increased image circle will actually make it out of the back of the converter for a bigger sensor. For your use, it is effectively changing the focal length. This is not something I've tested/calculated, so no answer... :-)

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  @Fujik19662 күн бұрын

  @@KeithCooper You don't have these topics. And therefore I have to ask similar questions in more appropriate ones. Thank you. Perhaps this will be interesting for you to create new discussions.

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  @KeithCooper2 күн бұрын

  Yes - I've added it to my to-do list Thanks!

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  @jaynecooke20822 күн бұрын

  I’ve brought one on your brilliant knowledge

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  @KeithCooper2 күн бұрын

  Hope it goes well!

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  @marcoriggi91733 күн бұрын

  How can I disable et18100 color management ? I have Sonoma and in PRINT driver is’nt this option ? Do you disable printer color management in drivers?

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  @KeithCooper2 күн бұрын

  Have you installed the airprint version of the driver? That will do that...

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  @marcoriggi91732 күн бұрын

  @@KeithCooper Thanks for the reply, i have installed the only driver available on the Epson support (13.09) and in the driver is’nt write AirPrint

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  @marcoriggi91732 күн бұрын

  Maybe it’s a Sonoma issue with drivers…

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  @KeithCooper2 күн бұрын

  Have you tried printing with Epson Print Layout [EPL] it's always my first test with a known good test image and profiles

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  @KeithCooper2 күн бұрын

  If EPL won't see the printer or work properly, it's likely an incorrect driver install [it matters not one bit that you downloaded the 'latest' driver] Delete all printer instances and go to epson.sn - do a proper setup and read ALL the instructions carefully. Every time I've seen an incorrect install, it's been USER ERROR - yes even when I've done it ;-)

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  @MrMick5603 күн бұрын

  As usual a great help, many thanks.

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  @KeithCooper3 күн бұрын

  Thanks

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  3 күн бұрын

  Hi Keith, I am happy I stumbled upon your channel. Thank you for sharing your experience. I have a quick question; calibrating your monitor for printing you set 100 cd/m² if I didn’t get you wrong, what if the pictures will never be printed and only end up at web pages or will only be watched on monitors like mobile devices or various LCD monitors? Still the correct setting should be 100 cd/m²? The default is 120 cd/m² for many... Thanks in advance.

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  @KeithCooper3 күн бұрын

  I use 100 partly because my general office lighting is not bright and I do a fair bit of print. 120 is fine for general photo use. My monitor has a 'bright sRGB' setting which I sometimes use to get a feel for web/phone use, but of course, such a huge change completely throws your visual adaption for a bit [time to make a coffee] The two monitors in my videos are deliberately set to match the video lighting [~4000K], so they look reasonable in the videos - they are useless for actual work ;-)

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  2 күн бұрын

  Thank you @@KeithCooper I will keep following your channel for sure and all my B&H orders will go through your affiliate link from now on. Greetings from New York City.

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  @KeithCooperКүн бұрын

  Much appreciated!

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  @Pat-10003 күн бұрын

  Very Helpful advice

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  @KeithCooper3 күн бұрын

  Thanks

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  @johnsanderson94403 күн бұрын

  I wish someone would show me the difference on physical photos

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  @KeithCooper3 күн бұрын

  See this thread at Printer Knowledge for an example and some aspects www.printerknowledge.com/threads/epson-xp-970-aftermarket-cartridges-colour-issues.16478/ Some cheap inks fade and drift colours very quickly - weeks For myself it's primarily about printer warranty, the need to make all new printer profiles and longevity - not immediately obvious