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That bass drum is super small! It sounds like a rack tom, it should be minimum 22 x 14" Inches, perfect is 26 x 14" and the vintage is 28 x 14". For Classic jazz, it should be 22 x 14", for vintage jazz it should be 28 x 14" and for versatyle it should be 26 x 14"
@elfurrohetero351821 сағат бұрын
I always use Heel down, i have always used that
@antoniomere2 күн бұрын
#3 and #4 maybe #6
@charleskendall59722 күн бұрын
im aself taught drummer, i learned everything by ear, but i would like to see what im actually doing on paper
@charleskendall59722 күн бұрын
i might be able to constuct it better if i can see what it looks like on a musical scale, thats why..
@charleskendall59722 күн бұрын
i want to see what im doing on paper..what it looks like
@dorifalaah95403 күн бұрын
billies bounce
@a.j.wilkes63525 күн бұрын
Had a thought about these kinds of ugly ducklings or "Butter cymbals"...they're the opposite of "Cutting through the mix" cymbals in that by themselves their beauty isn't obvious but when they play with a band the bad stuff melts away and they sit beautifully in the band. Hard to develop an ear/taste for that.
@pearlrumdrum5 күн бұрын
You really went there 😂
@TimMetz5 күн бұрын
Unfortunately I did.
@sillyboy-rr1iw5 күн бұрын
Same as the U2 album
@TimMetz5 күн бұрын
Baby!
@ryankane49845 күн бұрын
This is the first time I’ve actually seen the hawk tuah clip after hearing about a lot this last week
@TimMetz5 күн бұрын
I’m so sorry.
@butterboydan5 күн бұрын
So clean🙌🏼
@ben_co85587 күн бұрын
How is this a college audition version?
@TimMetz7 күн бұрын
Billie's Bounce has been a staple of college jazz program audition requirements for years. Almost all my students that audition for college have to play it year after year.
@ben_co85587 күн бұрын
@@TimMetz your right! looking back I remember getting asked to play that for almost all my college auditions
@user-hong8shug2koug810 күн бұрын
カッコいい!!
@rowintettero125511 күн бұрын
dahhh dahhh doushhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!
@syjwg12 күн бұрын
I've never seen a "drag" in slow motion. Very relaxed drum stick in your left hand. 🥁
@noahclark833514 күн бұрын
calf just has so much more tone. the aquarians do about the best job it's still less tone than calf
@garywillcox115 күн бұрын
Wow, I really like Funch cymbal. I’ve never heard of them.
@jazzhole820815 күн бұрын
What an amazing wash ❤ i totally luv it 🔥🥁
@danielelovato669416 күн бұрын
porca trota che bravo
@jomak919 күн бұрын
10 years later, I’m still watching this video from time to time, like what I did in high school.
@drumswest25 күн бұрын
My 19.25" K Istanbul has a small hole but I have an old Tama stand stand that works well. It's not the greatest sounding cymbal ever but it has personality. Spizzochino would have loved it.
@ckicklighteresq26 күн бұрын
I just picked up a K Con high bell dry because of this conversation. Can’t wait to play it. Thanks!
@trevormcmanis26 күн бұрын
I'm friends with Jonathan. He is an absolute sweetheart. I first met him over 20+ years ago. He plays with a close friend of mine, Nat Janoff, who is an incredible guitar player and musician.
@TimMetz21 күн бұрын
Awesome! I know Nat too! We all went to William Paterson together a bit longer ago than I'd care to mention these days. Thanks for watching!
@jevosman439327 күн бұрын
I like the replica 20 inch the most!
@tommysmith6101Ай бұрын
Nice clip Tim. I grew up listening to Bonham, Baker, Moon, etc...all the guys who were adapting to having to compete with electric guitar volume. In fact, just to hear the bass drum over the snare and cymbals, many drummers instinctively raised the leg and slammed the beater (buried) it into the head. Heel down is ergonomically superior for balance, no doubt and probably a better way to play if volume can be achieved. What about the natural quick fatigue of those anterior shin muscles when relying solely on the ankle with heel down? Any suggestions on that? Do you find that they can be strengthened/conditioned? Thanks for the clip!
@cool-km9ckАй бұрын
I want to learn jazz drums but I have considered online lessons but I learn best in person.Ive been trying to find jazz drum teachers near me and can’t find any, I’m still on the search what should I do?
@mancuniancandidatemАй бұрын
For me it depends on the gig, the cymbals I brought to the gig and the room. Is there a p.a? How loud is the band playing. I recently was the house drummer for a jazz jam, but the group was amplified. (In my opinion, a little bit too loud for the type of music, but not too loud for the type of venue) After hearing other drummers sitting in, I realised the ride cymbals ( early 2000nds K contantinople) and a 50s vintage A ride had zero definition. Using a heavier nylon tip 5B helped the stick definition cut a little more, but in reality heavier cymbals would have been better suited to this situation or the drums should have had an overhead mic, seeing as the piano and bass were being put through a pa.
@toddd7444Ай бұрын
you get what you pay for K. Zildjian Istanbul 20" Old Stamp Type IIa wheelchair larry
@zacharymalliloАй бұрын
What a teeny tiny world. Not sure how i wound up here, besides briefly viewing Tim Roberts mod on this cymbal…..anyways, I found It amusing that I purchased that first 39.99 “cast” cymbal you were checking out in beginning of this video…..was back in Sept….I was eyeing the hammering …….it is a Wuhan Heavy Ride…..damb Far Eastern Ks
@TimMetzАй бұрын
No way! I almost pulled the trigger on that too. lol!
@zacharymalliloАй бұрын
@@TimMetz I believe you might have left this buttery beast alone……..
@TimMetzАй бұрын
@@zacharymallilo Wow! That's crazy! I'm glad you got a good one!
@zacharymalliloАй бұрын
@@TimMetz ha yes….……thank you ….just got a few minutes smashing right alongside a 20” NewStamp …….
@ogKalmariАй бұрын
I have played for a long time heel up and I'm using the slide double stroke technique, but now I'm starting to use heel down also because I find it better playing quietly and relaxed with good control. So I find myself using some sort of hybrid technique when playing jazz
@rac1477Ай бұрын
Hi Tim, I can't access any PDFs. It just gives me a blank page.
@danahareb1852Ай бұрын
thank yew kind sir
@TimMetzАй бұрын
You're welcome
@AstAMooreАй бұрын
Sweet! While you’re at it, could you make a short video explaining how you manage to bury the beater with the bass drum tuned so high? Even though I tune mine a tad lower, try as I might, I can’t keep the beater from bouncing off the head and creating sort of an unintentional (very fast) diddle. (Along with the associated pitch bend, this creates an interesting effect, but that’s not what I’m going for.)
@TimMetzАй бұрын
The thing is, I’m not burying my bd beater.
@AstAMooreАй бұрын
@@TimMetz Ha! Sure you do! At the end of the phrases (for example, right around the 1:59 mark).
@TimMetzАй бұрын
@@AstAMoore Busted! That's from the first 5 seconds of the video where you can see I back off the head almost right away. I would say that I'm usually not trying to bury the beater unless it's a sound I'm trying to hear. Also not to say that it might happen sometimes unintentionally as in this clip. I do bury the beater intentionally when I'm trying to mimic a Brazilian Surdo, but that comes with the flutter and pitch bending effect you were talking about.
@AstAMooreАй бұрын
@@TimMetz Thanks! I thought I was going crazy (not to say that I’m not). I only recently started to incorporate burying the beater in my playing, and not being able to execute it cleaning is utterly frustrating. Now I know I’m not the only one with that problem. (And yes, it’s more useful in Afro-Cuban/Latin music, but could be used effectively-albeit sparingly-in bebop and straight-ahead jazz, too.)
@jansolo4853Ай бұрын
Thanks for the great fill!
@TimMetzАй бұрын
You got it!
@chenli9208Ай бұрын
I love it
@TimMetzАй бұрын
Thanks!
@stevo32drumsАй бұрын
Nice!
@TimMetzАй бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@JayoforshowАй бұрын
Tim your jazz videos are amazing, thanks so much for sharing your knowledge!! Sorry to ask a gear question here… but what is that hi hat clutch you’re using? Thanks again
@TimMetzАй бұрын
I think it’s a Cherry Hill clutch. It was a gift from a friend a few years ago.
@jojothetasmaniansassmonkey8866Ай бұрын
If a fill lasts for 5 minutes, I think its safe to say that its not a fill.
@TimMetzАй бұрын
😂 I mean, if the tempo is slow enough it could stretch to 5 minutes.
@jojothetasmaniansassmonkey8866Ай бұрын
@@TimMetz 1 bpm
@Scooped_OrangeАй бұрын
i was gonna make this joke! 😔
@erichernandezespinosa7067Ай бұрын
Fill a la Roy Haynes? It remember me much him 😅.
@TimMetzАй бұрын
Sure! Roy Haynes certainly played a lot of things like this.
@2_zik359Ай бұрын
Thanks Tim you really make jazz playing more understandable. The hardest thing for me is to keep the hi-hat pattern straight always struggle. I don’t know but link not working for me for some reason :(
@TimMetzАй бұрын
Thanks so much! I just changed it. There might be a problem with the url. It’s new…
@JunkerOnDrumsАй бұрын
Nice fill :D
@TimMetzАй бұрын
Thanks!
@megamatt1915Ай бұрын
love your jazz tutorials!
@TimMetzАй бұрын
Thank you!
@syjwgАй бұрын
Great lick! Counting vocally is something I've never practiced, but I've realized that it's very helpful.
@garydonnelly100Ай бұрын
I immediately noticed the tone of your USA Customs and my 80s era USAs are so very close. Unbelievable how consistent "That Great Gretsch Sound" has been through the decades.
@user-bh4zp4oe9nАй бұрын
4:08 Nice
@rolfendlessman7983Ай бұрын
A very cool exercise I do for dynamics is to play like a brazilian surdo. First note open (not burying the beater), second note muffled (burying the beater)
@robertosilveira2384Ай бұрын
Incredible!! Thank you for this Mr Metz!!
@DsullivannАй бұрын
That funch cymbal 😍
@hakankara9908Ай бұрын
Thats awesome!! The explanation, and the relaxed way of teaching thats people need it 🙏🏼
@manuelbayugar1342Ай бұрын
Really nice snare tone. Do you usually choose triple flanged hoops over die cast?
@JIodochnikАй бұрын
Billies bounce
@RalfieDDrummerАй бұрын
I recognized immediately as Billy’s Bounce but had to listen to tune to make sure it wasn’t Straight No Chaser
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That bass drum is super small! It sounds like a rack tom, it should be minimum 22 x 14" Inches, perfect is 26 x 14" and the vintage is 28 x 14". For Classic jazz, it should be 22 x 14", for vintage jazz it should be 28 x 14" and for versatyle it should be 26 x 14"
I always use Heel down, i have always used that
#3 and #4 maybe #6
im aself taught drummer, i learned everything by ear, but i would like to see what im actually doing on paper
i might be able to constuct it better if i can see what it looks like on a musical scale, thats why..
i want to see what im doing on paper..what it looks like
billies bounce
Had a thought about these kinds of ugly ducklings or "Butter cymbals"...they're the opposite of "Cutting through the mix" cymbals in that by themselves their beauty isn't obvious but when they play with a band the bad stuff melts away and they sit beautifully in the band. Hard to develop an ear/taste for that.
You really went there 😂
Unfortunately I did.
Same as the U2 album
Baby!
This is the first time I’ve actually seen the hawk tuah clip after hearing about a lot this last week
I’m so sorry.
So clean🙌🏼
How is this a college audition version?
Billie's Bounce has been a staple of college jazz program audition requirements for years. Almost all my students that audition for college have to play it year after year.
@@TimMetz your right! looking back I remember getting asked to play that for almost all my college auditions
カッコいい!!
dahhh dahhh doushhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!
I've never seen a "drag" in slow motion. Very relaxed drum stick in your left hand. 🥁
calf just has so much more tone. the aquarians do about the best job it's still less tone than calf
Wow, I really like Funch cymbal. I’ve never heard of them.
What an amazing wash ❤ i totally luv it 🔥🥁
porca trota che bravo
10 years later, I’m still watching this video from time to time, like what I did in high school.
My 19.25" K Istanbul has a small hole but I have an old Tama stand stand that works well. It's not the greatest sounding cymbal ever but it has personality. Spizzochino would have loved it.
I just picked up a K Con high bell dry because of this conversation. Can’t wait to play it. Thanks!
I'm friends with Jonathan. He is an absolute sweetheart. I first met him over 20+ years ago. He plays with a close friend of mine, Nat Janoff, who is an incredible guitar player and musician.
Awesome! I know Nat too! We all went to William Paterson together a bit longer ago than I'd care to mention these days. Thanks for watching!
I like the replica 20 inch the most!
Nice clip Tim. I grew up listening to Bonham, Baker, Moon, etc...all the guys who were adapting to having to compete with electric guitar volume. In fact, just to hear the bass drum over the snare and cymbals, many drummers instinctively raised the leg and slammed the beater (buried) it into the head. Heel down is ergonomically superior for balance, no doubt and probably a better way to play if volume can be achieved. What about the natural quick fatigue of those anterior shin muscles when relying solely on the ankle with heel down? Any suggestions on that? Do you find that they can be strengthened/conditioned? Thanks for the clip!
I want to learn jazz drums but I have considered online lessons but I learn best in person.Ive been trying to find jazz drum teachers near me and can’t find any, I’m still on the search what should I do?
For me it depends on the gig, the cymbals I brought to the gig and the room. Is there a p.a? How loud is the band playing. I recently was the house drummer for a jazz jam, but the group was amplified. (In my opinion, a little bit too loud for the type of music, but not too loud for the type of venue) After hearing other drummers sitting in, I realised the ride cymbals ( early 2000nds K contantinople) and a 50s vintage A ride had zero definition. Using a heavier nylon tip 5B helped the stick definition cut a little more, but in reality heavier cymbals would have been better suited to this situation or the drums should have had an overhead mic, seeing as the piano and bass were being put through a pa.
you get what you pay for K. Zildjian Istanbul 20" Old Stamp Type IIa wheelchair larry
What a teeny tiny world. Not sure how i wound up here, besides briefly viewing Tim Roberts mod on this cymbal…..anyways, I found It amusing that I purchased that first 39.99 “cast” cymbal you were checking out in beginning of this video…..was back in Sept….I was eyeing the hammering …….it is a Wuhan Heavy Ride…..damb Far Eastern Ks
No way! I almost pulled the trigger on that too. lol!
@@TimMetz I believe you might have left this buttery beast alone……..
@@zacharymallilo Wow! That's crazy! I'm glad you got a good one!
@@TimMetz ha yes….……thank you ….just got a few minutes smashing right alongside a 20” NewStamp …….
I have played for a long time heel up and I'm using the slide double stroke technique, but now I'm starting to use heel down also because I find it better playing quietly and relaxed with good control. So I find myself using some sort of hybrid technique when playing jazz
Hi Tim, I can't access any PDFs. It just gives me a blank page.
thank yew kind sir
You're welcome
Sweet! While you’re at it, could you make a short video explaining how you manage to bury the beater with the bass drum tuned so high? Even though I tune mine a tad lower, try as I might, I can’t keep the beater from bouncing off the head and creating sort of an unintentional (very fast) diddle. (Along with the associated pitch bend, this creates an interesting effect, but that’s not what I’m going for.)
The thing is, I’m not burying my bd beater.
@@TimMetz Ha! Sure you do! At the end of the phrases (for example, right around the 1:59 mark).
@@AstAMoore Busted! That's from the first 5 seconds of the video where you can see I back off the head almost right away. I would say that I'm usually not trying to bury the beater unless it's a sound I'm trying to hear. Also not to say that it might happen sometimes unintentionally as in this clip. I do bury the beater intentionally when I'm trying to mimic a Brazilian Surdo, but that comes with the flutter and pitch bending effect you were talking about.
@@TimMetz Thanks! I thought I was going crazy (not to say that I’m not). I only recently started to incorporate burying the beater in my playing, and not being able to execute it cleaning is utterly frustrating. Now I know I’m not the only one with that problem. (And yes, it’s more useful in Afro-Cuban/Latin music, but could be used effectively-albeit sparingly-in bebop and straight-ahead jazz, too.)
Thanks for the great fill!
You got it!
I love it
Thanks!
Nice!
Thank you! Cheers!
Tim your jazz videos are amazing, thanks so much for sharing your knowledge!! Sorry to ask a gear question here… but what is that hi hat clutch you’re using? Thanks again
I think it’s a Cherry Hill clutch. It was a gift from a friend a few years ago.
If a fill lasts for 5 minutes, I think its safe to say that its not a fill.
😂 I mean, if the tempo is slow enough it could stretch to 5 minutes.
@@TimMetz 1 bpm
i was gonna make this joke! 😔
Fill a la Roy Haynes? It remember me much him 😅.
Sure! Roy Haynes certainly played a lot of things like this.
Thanks Tim you really make jazz playing more understandable. The hardest thing for me is to keep the hi-hat pattern straight always struggle. I don’t know but link not working for me for some reason :(
Thanks so much! I just changed it. There might be a problem with the url. It’s new…
Nice fill :D
Thanks!
love your jazz tutorials!
Thank you!
Great lick! Counting vocally is something I've never practiced, but I've realized that it's very helpful.
I immediately noticed the tone of your USA Customs and my 80s era USAs are so very close. Unbelievable how consistent "That Great Gretsch Sound" has been through the decades.
4:08 Nice
A very cool exercise I do for dynamics is to play like a brazilian surdo. First note open (not burying the beater), second note muffled (burying the beater)
Incredible!! Thank you for this Mr Metz!!
That funch cymbal 😍
Thats awesome!! The explanation, and the relaxed way of teaching thats people need it 🙏🏼
Really nice snare tone. Do you usually choose triple flanged hoops over die cast?
Billies bounce
I recognized immediately as Billy’s Bounce but had to listen to tune to make sure it wasn’t Straight No Chaser