I went back to cables due to replacement cost. Axs is incredible for sure. But when it inevitably hits a rock it’s $$$$$$.
@dadventuretv25382 күн бұрын
I have GX T-type on my Oso. I got this bike to go into the furthest reaches of the wild to hit gnar and DHs usually inaccessible to analog riders absent a shuttle- you know, those places without cell phone coverage. Last thing I need is a drivetrain that requires an app and uses “algorithms” so when it is not working well I can’t even figure put why. Oh, and another battery in my life. Give me a cable system that does not require charging and that I can fix on the trail in the middle of nowhere with a screwdriver, allen wrench and pliers. And that an LBS that doesn’t have the latest and greatest might have parts for if needed- and know how to work on it. It would be one thing if wireless shifting provided a shift that was head and shoulders above cable. And while the new SRAM wireless stuff might be head and shoulders above its cable brethren, it is no better than Shimano XT that I’ve been riding for years. I am going back to cables, probably Shimano XT link glide.
@trocycling12042 күн бұрын
My issue is that I'm so used to grip shift (been on xx1 for years), and is so dialed, the thought of buttons and batteries seems just silly. I can dump gears to be exactly where I want to be with a tiny movement. And I've trained myself to know exactly how far to turn to get exactly what I want in no time. To me it's genius, still can't understand the whole trigger thing and why the masses uses it.
@sfdint4 күн бұрын
Not convincing at all. Battery life is a non issue, derailleur noise, never noticed it, tactile feel is all a big plus. How can you improve on tap, tap?
@jansteinar17156 күн бұрын
Tnx for a helpful video. But I do feel there is more to "suspension" than only the front fork or shock setup. Tier pressure is for me an overlooked point. As well as the carbon vs alloy rims. And not to forget the handlebar and grip choice
@ralph148367 күн бұрын
Cascade link went over center over compressed rear shock jamb rear tire against seatpost I went over the bars took 3 mechanics to pull it out sent link and frame to cascade for evaluation and they could not find anything wrong except minor bearing wear and they sent all it back said tuff pal we can’t find any fault with our product. Lesson learned Factory engineers design frames best not to try to make a frame travel further than it was designed for! Now I’m stuck with a damaged $4k carbon frame front triangle. I changed back to Santa Cruz standard link to be safe. I have videos without shock on that I sent to cascade they you can see how link allows head of bolt gouge into frame and jamb
@geronimo95957 күн бұрын
I'm a heavy guy and I ride fairly aggressively. So either I'm bottoming out the shock on the jumps/drops or I'm overpressured & harsh on the fine stuff. I just ordered some volume spacers to ramp up the progression so that I can use a little less pressure overall. we'll see how it goes. I'm hoping to get better small bump sensitivity whilst being supported for the bigger hits. Luckily volume spacers are a low cost investment and kit has various sizes so I have room to fiddle. Thanks for the tips!
@demortorman7 күн бұрын
I can shift silently with X01 mechanical. The axs and the new transmission just shoots and makes a ton of noise (and wear to the cassette). If you can shift good, electronic shifting is nonsense. I never had any problems with cables. And I am on e-bike.
@user-do1sr9wg1w11 күн бұрын
I never said hello, i just looked the other way and pretended it wasn't there.
@Kaspurr8412 күн бұрын
I'm sitting in 2024 and have myself wanting to pull my 2 year old AXS off and go back to mechanical. I miss the simplicity
@a8f23512 күн бұрын
Personally I've been in a bit of trial and error lately given I had no idea what fork and shock should and could feel like. I had to change tokens to try that, and dial in my sag front to back. The factory tuned token amount in the shock was actually what worked best, but how could I know without having anything to compare it to. In the fork however, it did help to remove the 1 token that was in there as standard, but once that was done I landed at pretty much the recommended settings by Fox when I followed their bracketing procedure. The only change is 1 click faster LSC on the fork, and the rest is recommended settings. As with the tokens I cannot know if the recommended settings was any good at all when I had nothing to compare it with, so I'm very glad that I now know what feels better and what feels worse. I thought I wanted less compression in the fork to make it feel more plush, but when I just followed the bracketing procedure I just did not like it at all. It just felt like soggy mush, and now I like a more damped and smooth transition. Another thing I thought beforehanded was just like mentioned in this video that I'd might end up with less PSI in the fork. Well I have 88PSI instead of the recommended 94PSI, but I am at 20% sag which is recommended for trail/enduro, as well as 30% sag in the shock. Next ride I'll play a bit with tire pressures because I suspect that may be the final touch.
@piglegluckson915613 күн бұрын
Someone actually still enjoys washing their clothes by hands. & there's nothing wrong with it.
@cegalleta14 күн бұрын
Just say you like carbon wheels but don't lie to yourself or try to make anyone believe a $2,000 wheelset is saving money lol.
@teothereal14 күн бұрын
I dont know but my friends xt sucks
@kubiceekmtb15 күн бұрын
As I’m reading comments here,I’m wondering. Is there so big difference between classic axs and axs transmission? I’ve never tried classic axs but I already had an XO and GX transmission and both were absolutely amazing. No rattling noise or any other problem. Everything was without any problems. On the other way with my cable gx and xo1 I had I needed every month to do some repairs with cable tension and the most of the time the derailleur wasn’t running smoothly. It was skipping gears and etc. It can be just bad experience but I can’t tell.
@SemiSendy15 күн бұрын
I’ve had a lot of time on XX and GX transmission as well, and they are extremely different. XX has been the most quiet of all of the sram drivetrains I’ve ran to date. Shifting is very different, and the pod controller is quite different as well. It’s not without its pitfalls, but I definitely rank transmission as a big leap forward for Sram.
@Cameroony87715 күн бұрын
My uncle Devon Manno says he does mtb with you, I just started to get into it and he showed me your channel.
@SemiSendy15 күн бұрын
That’s awesome! Your uncle is a very good friend of mine.
@Cameroony87715 күн бұрын
@@SemiSendy what videos are the ones that my uncle is in?
@betterthannotgoodmtb15 күн бұрын
Reminds me of the first time I took my buddy to Snowshoe and we rode a "blue", specifically M. He wasn't ready having only rode Bburg and Carvins. He was like, "Wait, that was a blue?" 😂
@betterthannotgoodmtb15 күн бұрын
Great video highlighting Carvins! It is a little jewel for sure. Gaunlet is my fav trail there hands down with Royalty next. Gaunlet roots get gnarlier every year which is so good! The down/upside is Bburg development has grown like crazy, so it's real hard to want to travel up there haha! But I'll be getting back soon once the wrist is a little better off and able to handle the gnar. Shred on!
@fruchtiggacodm882217 күн бұрын
I have a problem. I have a rock shox super deluxe select and I want to decrease my sag because it’s at about 40% which is way to much. However when I try to increase my airpressure it won’t work for some reason
@davinci6919 күн бұрын
5:20 just take out the batteries when youre not riding. Its not too much of a hastle, you put gear on as well
@thomasfields208219 күн бұрын
Nonsense. The blue trails try and kill you. ask the scar on my leg. lol.
@nickhindle728920 күн бұрын
SRAM has been my go to for years, CX, XC and now on my Ebike. Shimano gave me so many tech issues. Wireless all day long
@ashwinamanna246521 күн бұрын
When equalizing pressure between positive and negative air chamber, I believe that Rock Shox recommends doing this without the shock pump connected
@erikaslt24 күн бұрын
I cannot find any information on how to dial in 19 fix 40 factory dh. Nothing about how to set the compression dials
@drill_fiend109724 күн бұрын
SRAM does need to figure out letting users to completely power down when transporting bikes. I am beginning to aee adventages of wireless shifting (rented few wireless gravel bikes) and didn't agree with noise or feel, but battery drain is a big flaw. Wish they just added a switch to power down. Removing battery is a bit of risk of losing them. I am not sure about Di2 tho.
@Svenson61225 күн бұрын
any given day of a cyclist 3.0: charge e-bike, charge smartphone, charge GPS, charge heart rate monitor chest strap, charge telescopic seat post, charge power meter, charge wheel pressure caps, charge lights, charge collision warning radar, disconnect WiFi smartphone in case the Ebike decides to update itself in marches, charge smart helmet for accident warning...
@Little_EG25 күн бұрын
Seriously the best shifting drive train I ever used. GX AXS TRANSMISSION is amazing
@JDlmFUPR26 күн бұрын
Great vid, thanks!
@donavinnezar26 күн бұрын
i upgraded from deore 3x9 to deore 1x12 with raceface chainring and 11-51 sunrace casette , looking at the parts its obvious it was for budget reasons and then i still have ppl asking me why didnt i just go with gx wireless , the gx wireless deraileur alone costs about as much as my entire drivetrain setup wich is absolutely wild (sram component pricing in south africa is insane)
@alexprohoroff150028 күн бұрын
you get the wrong bike for your needs. and this is the 670 sad it was 669
@heathfranklin4296Ай бұрын
Poser kook fam.
@EvanturarАй бұрын
I am surprised how few people have captured the issues he’s mentioning. 1. The cassette ratios feel way too wide for steep climbing. 2. Battery will die on a long road trip. Take it out for the drive. 3. Awful CLUNK when changing gears. 4. Chain slap. I have been pondering going to Shimano on my Supercaliber.
@KatalinaMaverikАй бұрын
The Transition Smuggler is a blast, and probably better suited to your riding style and area
@MrSzwarzАй бұрын
It is obious for me that cables have better feel, a total control and nice feeling, freedom without being chained to batteries, charging, water and weather... (Yes, come weather drain very quickly any battery). I never had desire to change from Shimano Ultegra to any electric powered groupset. With perfectly crafted TIME framset, it looks much better. I've never missed gear, or dropped chain ; ) What's the point? Progress? Better feel? Being trendy?
@rickstokes2239Ай бұрын
I use the SRAM Force AXS D2 all wireless setup with only brake lines. But my setup is a Cervelo P Series Triathlon rig so very different bike, but on a Tri setup i’ll never go back to cables.
@attackingmid1Ай бұрын
My youngest son (27) is on a week-long work trip to WV. They were supposed to go fishing today on their day off, but instead I got a photo of his boss and him all geared up ready to ride Snowshoe! With all of us being from CO, I wanted to get an idea what the park was like and found this video. I agree with others - you did an outstanding job putting this video together. These trails look legit! Janky, chunky, and with fun features sprinkled in. Now I'm totally jealous!
@alex_razmyakinАй бұрын
It's funny to watch how all these authors are afraid to say a bad word, because the copyright holders will come to them and make them apologize on their knees :D
@noControl556Ай бұрын
I would be intrested if they could be wired up to the main ebike battery vs. having to keep up with charging seperate batteries. But then I suppose you would need cables to do that kind of defeating the purpose although those cables would be thinner and more flexable.
@WofinetАй бұрын
My experience is it goes flat just sitting around. Ie if you charge your bike and leave it sit without touching it will still need charging
@carmeloguino-o4539Ай бұрын
Can i still Mullet it even though i would not change the cascade link?
@deanl1108Ай бұрын
I was sick of the battery going all the time. I went back to cable xx1.
@Leo-gt1bxАй бұрын
XT for life!
@Chirpy_CeilingbirdАй бұрын
I had to pause it after “fun-o-meter” and giggle for a sec.
@blurglideАй бұрын
I'm having a hell of a time getting fresh cable housing through my Ibis Ripmo! Any tips? I'm considering going AXS just to avoid these tight bends
@K15oyАй бұрын
This was "shoking" to me. Thank you!!
@MrFuckinloginАй бұрын
Ok. What do you think about the new Charger 3 Zeb which is very progressive? Is 25% sag with 180mm travel too much?
@terr256Ай бұрын
Just bought a norco and their ride aligned says 18 out LSC. Does that mean out from close or out from open? Also great video! Just subscribed!
@SemiSendyАй бұрын
That should mean out from closed if they are following conventional norms. I’d start there as a launching point and then start bracketing to see what feels best to you.
@truekingfpvАй бұрын
My favorite mountain bike saying is: “it’s not the bike, it’s the rider.” In my experience no matter how well you set up your bike it won’t change the way you ride. My friends bike is a 6000$ bike and even so, me on my 3000$ bike, I’ve been riding for less time than he has but practice much more, which pays off because I am a much better rider than he is.
@dan11thehandsАй бұрын
Not with sram system but can happen i guess... something people dont talk about i had the archer components electronic shifter and after one season the motor burned in the trails and the chain went by itself to smallest cog stuck like that...cie said no warranty so i put back xtr shifter with the xtr derailleur shifts super good i feel safer cause easyer to fix in trails and i like the feel...
@bearsgarage272Ай бұрын
I'm only 90min from Knoxville, can't wait to try these trails!
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I went back to cables due to replacement cost. Axs is incredible for sure. But when it inevitably hits a rock it’s $$$$$$.
I have GX T-type on my Oso. I got this bike to go into the furthest reaches of the wild to hit gnar and DHs usually inaccessible to analog riders absent a shuttle- you know, those places without cell phone coverage. Last thing I need is a drivetrain that requires an app and uses “algorithms” so when it is not working well I can’t even figure put why. Oh, and another battery in my life. Give me a cable system that does not require charging and that I can fix on the trail in the middle of nowhere with a screwdriver, allen wrench and pliers. And that an LBS that doesn’t have the latest and greatest might have parts for if needed- and know how to work on it. It would be one thing if wireless shifting provided a shift that was head and shoulders above cable. And while the new SRAM wireless stuff might be head and shoulders above its cable brethren, it is no better than Shimano XT that I’ve been riding for years. I am going back to cables, probably Shimano XT link glide.
My issue is that I'm so used to grip shift (been on xx1 for years), and is so dialed, the thought of buttons and batteries seems just silly. I can dump gears to be exactly where I want to be with a tiny movement. And I've trained myself to know exactly how far to turn to get exactly what I want in no time. To me it's genius, still can't understand the whole trigger thing and why the masses uses it.
Not convincing at all. Battery life is a non issue, derailleur noise, never noticed it, tactile feel is all a big plus. How can you improve on tap, tap?
Tnx for a helpful video. But I do feel there is more to "suspension" than only the front fork or shock setup. Tier pressure is for me an overlooked point. As well as the carbon vs alloy rims. And not to forget the handlebar and grip choice
Cascade link went over center over compressed rear shock jamb rear tire against seatpost I went over the bars took 3 mechanics to pull it out sent link and frame to cascade for evaluation and they could not find anything wrong except minor bearing wear and they sent all it back said tuff pal we can’t find any fault with our product. Lesson learned Factory engineers design frames best not to try to make a frame travel further than it was designed for! Now I’m stuck with a damaged $4k carbon frame front triangle. I changed back to Santa Cruz standard link to be safe. I have videos without shock on that I sent to cascade they you can see how link allows head of bolt gouge into frame and jamb
I'm a heavy guy and I ride fairly aggressively. So either I'm bottoming out the shock on the jumps/drops or I'm overpressured & harsh on the fine stuff. I just ordered some volume spacers to ramp up the progression so that I can use a little less pressure overall. we'll see how it goes. I'm hoping to get better small bump sensitivity whilst being supported for the bigger hits. Luckily volume spacers are a low cost investment and kit has various sizes so I have room to fiddle. Thanks for the tips!
I can shift silently with X01 mechanical. The axs and the new transmission just shoots and makes a ton of noise (and wear to the cassette). If you can shift good, electronic shifting is nonsense. I never had any problems with cables. And I am on e-bike.
I never said hello, i just looked the other way and pretended it wasn't there.
I'm sitting in 2024 and have myself wanting to pull my 2 year old AXS off and go back to mechanical. I miss the simplicity
Personally I've been in a bit of trial and error lately given I had no idea what fork and shock should and could feel like. I had to change tokens to try that, and dial in my sag front to back. The factory tuned token amount in the shock was actually what worked best, but how could I know without having anything to compare it to. In the fork however, it did help to remove the 1 token that was in there as standard, but once that was done I landed at pretty much the recommended settings by Fox when I followed their bracketing procedure. The only change is 1 click faster LSC on the fork, and the rest is recommended settings. As with the tokens I cannot know if the recommended settings was any good at all when I had nothing to compare it with, so I'm very glad that I now know what feels better and what feels worse. I thought I wanted less compression in the fork to make it feel more plush, but when I just followed the bracketing procedure I just did not like it at all. It just felt like soggy mush, and now I like a more damped and smooth transition. Another thing I thought beforehanded was just like mentioned in this video that I'd might end up with less PSI in the fork. Well I have 88PSI instead of the recommended 94PSI, but I am at 20% sag which is recommended for trail/enduro, as well as 30% sag in the shock. Next ride I'll play a bit with tire pressures because I suspect that may be the final touch.
Someone actually still enjoys washing their clothes by hands. & there's nothing wrong with it.
Just say you like carbon wheels but don't lie to yourself or try to make anyone believe a $2,000 wheelset is saving money lol.
I dont know but my friends xt sucks
As I’m reading comments here,I’m wondering. Is there so big difference between classic axs and axs transmission? I’ve never tried classic axs but I already had an XO and GX transmission and both were absolutely amazing. No rattling noise or any other problem. Everything was without any problems. On the other way with my cable gx and xo1 I had I needed every month to do some repairs with cable tension and the most of the time the derailleur wasn’t running smoothly. It was skipping gears and etc. It can be just bad experience but I can’t tell.
I’ve had a lot of time on XX and GX transmission as well, and they are extremely different. XX has been the most quiet of all of the sram drivetrains I’ve ran to date. Shifting is very different, and the pod controller is quite different as well. It’s not without its pitfalls, but I definitely rank transmission as a big leap forward for Sram.
My uncle Devon Manno says he does mtb with you, I just started to get into it and he showed me your channel.
That’s awesome! Your uncle is a very good friend of mine.
@@SemiSendy what videos are the ones that my uncle is in?
Reminds me of the first time I took my buddy to Snowshoe and we rode a "blue", specifically M. He wasn't ready having only rode Bburg and Carvins. He was like, "Wait, that was a blue?" 😂
Great video highlighting Carvins! It is a little jewel for sure. Gaunlet is my fav trail there hands down with Royalty next. Gaunlet roots get gnarlier every year which is so good! The down/upside is Bburg development has grown like crazy, so it's real hard to want to travel up there haha! But I'll be getting back soon once the wrist is a little better off and able to handle the gnar. Shred on!
I have a problem. I have a rock shox super deluxe select and I want to decrease my sag because it’s at about 40% which is way to much. However when I try to increase my airpressure it won’t work for some reason
5:20 just take out the batteries when youre not riding. Its not too much of a hastle, you put gear on as well
Nonsense. The blue trails try and kill you. ask the scar on my leg. lol.
SRAM has been my go to for years, CX, XC and now on my Ebike. Shimano gave me so many tech issues. Wireless all day long
When equalizing pressure between positive and negative air chamber, I believe that Rock Shox recommends doing this without the shock pump connected
I cannot find any information on how to dial in 19 fix 40 factory dh. Nothing about how to set the compression dials
SRAM does need to figure out letting users to completely power down when transporting bikes. I am beginning to aee adventages of wireless shifting (rented few wireless gravel bikes) and didn't agree with noise or feel, but battery drain is a big flaw. Wish they just added a switch to power down. Removing battery is a bit of risk of losing them. I am not sure about Di2 tho.
any given day of a cyclist 3.0: charge e-bike, charge smartphone, charge GPS, charge heart rate monitor chest strap, charge telescopic seat post, charge power meter, charge wheel pressure caps, charge lights, charge collision warning radar, disconnect WiFi smartphone in case the Ebike decides to update itself in marches, charge smart helmet for accident warning...
Seriously the best shifting drive train I ever used. GX AXS TRANSMISSION is amazing
Great vid, thanks!
i upgraded from deore 3x9 to deore 1x12 with raceface chainring and 11-51 sunrace casette , looking at the parts its obvious it was for budget reasons and then i still have ppl asking me why didnt i just go with gx wireless , the gx wireless deraileur alone costs about as much as my entire drivetrain setup wich is absolutely wild (sram component pricing in south africa is insane)
you get the wrong bike for your needs. and this is the 670 sad it was 669
Poser kook fam.
I am surprised how few people have captured the issues he’s mentioning. 1. The cassette ratios feel way too wide for steep climbing. 2. Battery will die on a long road trip. Take it out for the drive. 3. Awful CLUNK when changing gears. 4. Chain slap. I have been pondering going to Shimano on my Supercaliber.
The Transition Smuggler is a blast, and probably better suited to your riding style and area
It is obious for me that cables have better feel, a total control and nice feeling, freedom without being chained to batteries, charging, water and weather... (Yes, come weather drain very quickly any battery). I never had desire to change from Shimano Ultegra to any electric powered groupset. With perfectly crafted TIME framset, it looks much better. I've never missed gear, or dropped chain ; ) What's the point? Progress? Better feel? Being trendy?
I use the SRAM Force AXS D2 all wireless setup with only brake lines. But my setup is a Cervelo P Series Triathlon rig so very different bike, but on a Tri setup i’ll never go back to cables.
My youngest son (27) is on a week-long work trip to WV. They were supposed to go fishing today on their day off, but instead I got a photo of his boss and him all geared up ready to ride Snowshoe! With all of us being from CO, I wanted to get an idea what the park was like and found this video. I agree with others - you did an outstanding job putting this video together. These trails look legit! Janky, chunky, and with fun features sprinkled in. Now I'm totally jealous!
It's funny to watch how all these authors are afraid to say a bad word, because the copyright holders will come to them and make them apologize on their knees :D
I would be intrested if they could be wired up to the main ebike battery vs. having to keep up with charging seperate batteries. But then I suppose you would need cables to do that kind of defeating the purpose although those cables would be thinner and more flexable.
My experience is it goes flat just sitting around. Ie if you charge your bike and leave it sit without touching it will still need charging
Can i still Mullet it even though i would not change the cascade link?
I was sick of the battery going all the time. I went back to cable xx1.
XT for life!
I had to pause it after “fun-o-meter” and giggle for a sec.
I'm having a hell of a time getting fresh cable housing through my Ibis Ripmo! Any tips? I'm considering going AXS just to avoid these tight bends
This was "shoking" to me. Thank you!!
Ok. What do you think about the new Charger 3 Zeb which is very progressive? Is 25% sag with 180mm travel too much?
Just bought a norco and their ride aligned says 18 out LSC. Does that mean out from close or out from open? Also great video! Just subscribed!
That should mean out from closed if they are following conventional norms. I’d start there as a launching point and then start bracketing to see what feels best to you.
My favorite mountain bike saying is: “it’s not the bike, it’s the rider.” In my experience no matter how well you set up your bike it won’t change the way you ride. My friends bike is a 6000$ bike and even so, me on my 3000$ bike, I’ve been riding for less time than he has but practice much more, which pays off because I am a much better rider than he is.
Not with sram system but can happen i guess... something people dont talk about i had the archer components electronic shifter and after one season the motor burned in the trails and the chain went by itself to smallest cog stuck like that...cie said no warranty so i put back xtr shifter with the xtr derailleur shifts super good i feel safer cause easyer to fix in trails and i like the feel...
I'm only 90min from Knoxville, can't wait to try these trails!