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GREEDY SNK MHJ distract NETIZEN from main ACCUSATIONS on her by HYBE .trying to PROpagate false NARRATIVE MHJ accused LSFM for stealing the branding from NJ MHJ ACCUSED ILLIT for plagiarism MHJ cry for NJ 2nd gg of HYBE after 2 years success....surprise MHJ accused HYBE of ALBUM sale boosting.....FOMIS 9 laughing at crnr MHJ drag SAKURA..CHEWON individually nd as group LSFM,TXT,BTS,ENHYPEN,IVE,ATEEZ after all those she PLAYS ULTIMTE VICTIM card ...what a shameful lies about NOT money greed not power hunger not behind Project 1945 not meeting the invester. only VP plans to take over ADOR from HYBE.
nice wording there to frame it as negative. its not plagiarization, they took inspiration from it...its a thing from the past, EVERY SINGLE ARTIST DO THIS. This is very different from a girl group being given a very similar look, feel, sound, presentation, and choreography...to an existing, successful girl group in the same company, not even 3 years into the run of the one who first did it...there's no playing morality, taking inspiration from the past is fair game and every artist in every medium do this, not just KPop. What you're doing is muddying the waters to make it seem like what Newjeans did (getting inspiration from old stuff) and what Be Lift/HYBE did (bandwagon on the thing that Newjeans is doing) are the same thing, you're conflating two different things as same....that is bad faith and intellectually dishonest and lazy.
hehehehe You reap what you sow
I understand that disliking NewJeans seem unfair, but their public support for MHJ is frustrating. They shouldn't intervene, let alone file a court petition in support of MHJ.
Thank you so much.
think if (if) this is all Min's plan all along since newjeans beginning to take over ADOR. this to make ADOR terminate contract with newjeans and pay to both (jeans(law sued? if copyright still there which i think if it plan, they might prepare for that already. :D) & newjeans(contract compensated)) which actually money from HYBE. (not ADOR. :D) and if Min's investor is from maxico this all even clicked more. :D this' very fun and interesting. :D
That woman, MHJ, is destroying New Jeans's career. And in their comeback, it's so disgusting! It's crazy how their parents and New Jeans's fans are still by her side at this point.
Just one conclusion from this uncovering of plagiarism: It debunks MHJ’s injunction entirely, as her case is based on the alleged plagiarism of NJs by other Hy’s ggroups On the other hand, since Hy didn’t rebut that argument of hers in court, they obviously weren’t aware of the situation. Having a successful gg has been BSH’s pet project since the beginnings of BigHit, but he wud never have risked BigHit/Hy’s image and prestige with such blatant plagiarism. Further, not long ago Hy launched a project for expansion in LatAM based in Mex, stealing from a fairly known Mex gg doesn’t make sense; too risky (I understand that Jeans’ songs are still played in “oldies songs” radios)
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🤪🤪 MHJ - "MY ORIGINAL CONCEPT" 😜. 🤣🤣🤣 Sad for the artist whom MHJ pointed out copying her so callled originality. What a mess! 😤😤 Sad for HYBe as parent company: they have to face these public mess and legal responsibility, as well as financial loss. But MHJ started it and anger the international fans - so it just a backfires to her so called "my original concept". She must be responsible for her unethical response as CEO -it is mishandling of company internal conflict and issues resulting to public scrutiny, etc... .... .... .🤪🤪
I think Jeans will sue, there's money in it for sure and NJ is reported to earn some money so Jeans knowing the group literally stole from them will go the route of suing for royalties and damages
At this point nothing I hear about MJH is even shocking. She is a classic narcissist and eternal victim. I hope this can be used as evidence as to why she is unfit to continue working as a CEO. As for New Jeans the group, I am so upset with the adults around them. How ignorant are the parents? And what about their legal representation? Who advises them to officially take a side in this? I’m sure they wanted to, but someone, anyone should have told them they needed to think about their careers and let these two companies fight it out. I believe MHJ will be fired, if not physically then psychologically. Even if she could win the injunction, she is NEVER again going to enjoy the freedoms she had a Hybe. I’m pretty sure they are moving them out of the 16th floor as we speak. And not for nothing, but HYBE is petty; they will keep them in court for a decade - and there goes those girls’ career. This is a classic case of when your EGO writes a check your body CANNOT cash!
I know one thing… this might be the reason , Bighit doesn’t want girl groups. And this situation just made the decision locked and sealed. I’m a girl and I can say it is probably harder to manage girl groups more than boy groups. Plus, I think when their past girl group failed, then PD might be traumatized from back then, too.
The mind boggles after all the dirt she threw and is throwing at BangPD and Hybe! She should have a committee meeting with the spirits she is accepting advice from and ask them to formulate a consistent story!
Jimin contributed right away to the group. He created the "hat trick" in We Are Bulletproof Part 2," a very early song in their career. He was put up front because he had style and nailed all the dances. His practicing paid off!
It is obvious that MHJ is a train wreck waiting to happen. She has only got this far because rival companies of Hybe have used their press contacts to aid her publicity campaign. Its the first time they have had any success in their attempts to tarnish Hybe and maybe get chance at those lucrative ambassadorships and sponsorship deals BTS has been scooping up. MHJ will find herself ghosted once she has fulfilled her purpose. So my major worry is New Jeans. This is my hope. .... that when everything has died down Hybe shows magnanimity and developes them without MHJ. It would do alot to mend their reputation if they released a press statement saying the girls were young and talented and they showed admirable loyalty to their mentor, but were misguided. This would squash attempts to make HYBE look like the big corporate bully squashing por little MHJ. I hope New Jeans do not end in the wilderness with Min Hee Jin. 💜
But the parents got involved though, so lets see how magnanimous HYBE will be to them.
This would work, if their parents don't remain stupid.
Plus, how would they undo the petitions that was signed? They practically betrayed HYBE.
Tbh I'm just hoping to see a public apology from the families of NJ when all of this settles down. I want them to acknowledge the entitlement they've expressed as just that: Entitlement. Not to mention that it would probably help their kids' reputation going forward after all this is over. I fear they're in for a hard time.
Dang copied exactly like them too. Nothing is original. I mean have some changes.
Currently, the standard copyright laws protect up to 75 yrs; assuming Mex law meets this standard, “Jeans” has approx 30 yrs ownership over everything they created. Plagiarism is costly, even more so the bigger the percentage plagiarised, which in the case of MHJ project is close to 90%. Jeans members all still alive and two still active and fairly well known in Mexico, have just won the lottery As it’s said in Spanish lore “nadie sabe para quién trabaja” (no one knowns for whom they work) I feel for the girls involved, but not for all the adults illegally appropriating some one else’s work While Hy will loose some $$, MHJ and everyone involved have lost their futures in the industry Allow me to reference a classic: “They who laugh last, laugh best”
I knew I have saw that outfits in other place! 😅 Jeans is still working as artist over another name, that means they should have asked. They are not that famouse and most probably fo not have the resources for this kind of legal procedure or nothing even similar to this groups but their property should be respected.
Wow 😳😲. I guess the Piper came to early to collect the debt. If only MHJ had kept quiet about being copied, then all this wouldn't be uncovered. Pride will be the fall of man. Oh well. 😂
A pot alling the kettle black
Copying is copying, old or new stuffs... there are not homage in there that all
For real??????
An homage is putting some classic elements in your work that is clearly paying tribute to the original. Clear example is JK’s snty which is an homage to MJ and the music of his era. But the work itself is very original and fresh even if it feels nostalgic. MJ has been a huge influence on pop music for so long that this does not have to be spelled out. But with this Nj and jeans...it’s a little bit more than that. First of all...this group is a bit obscure, I never heard of them. Their style, their music and branding was typical of the era so they were also not the only instance that used those elements. But in this instance so many details were lifted from them that this is not just inspiration...it’s copying, down to the font used and even some of the music. This was never acknowledge until now. I say this is just lazy work...very disappointing!
It is not obscure but we are talking about a teen local group of a third world country that have no support for their artists. They are well known for millenials here in Mexico because they were their versions of "idols", even with the 9 years career from middle 90's to late 20's. They as far as I remembered never had a huge success international but they promoted around the country and still do, funny thing I still remember some of their songs: "Pepe", "La ilusión del primer amor" or "Me pongo mis jeans". Here Millenials knows them but they were pre KZread so it is not like I watch their MVs but listen them in radio and parties.
Fr, it's disrespectful to say it homage but never mention them. MHJ even says it her original concept. Tbh it would be better if they say they samplings jeans rather than homage.
This is so messy. I really hope it ends soon.
MHJ really thought that she won't get caught copying the original Jean's group since they didn't in Korea. She's just a liar with no originality, no talent.
ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 민희진이 날린 부메랑!
Oh man, I really want this drama to be over ASAP. Now, MHJ bots will try to bring up 'copying issues' like BTS's jacket color, hair color, etc. Again, the attention of ARMYs will be deviated. We have an album release in three days, Jin coming back, Festa, etc. Plus, we need to focus on eight profiles (BTS plus seven solo). We have to prioritize those who have a chance to win awards while giving sustainable streams to other songs. Plus, that witch would pay tabloids to bring out all sorts of negative articles about BTS. The chart allegations are in the news again. Seriously, I am fed up.😢😢😢.
Don't give any attention to the chart news, it's just the same old shit being repeated by a corrupt journalist, it's all lies. Don't give any clicks and don't interact. Forget about it.
BTS has always had crap thrown at them since day 1 and it hasn’t stopped even now. Despite this they have only grown bigger and bigger. No matter what people do now they will still do well. Just look at how RM got a #1 in the UK Singles chart with ‘come back to me’ even during this mess. You can see why MHJ waited until BTS enlisted as she knew if they were still here all they would have to do is release a song and she and her issue would be drowned out.
Honestly, just ignore all those ugly things and focus on the boys.
V referenced David Bowie as his influence for Layover, that’s class and how you do it. BTS always gives credit to the original artist as they are usually role models for them. Sure sometimes things slip through the crack and you rely on others for the creatives, and when that happens you apologies and correct the mistake. BTS have NEVER claimed any of the art as original and it shows the difference in class between them and MHJ who is the biggest narcissist I’ve seen in a long time. I’m waiting on Shakattak’s response on the ‘plagiarism’ accusation about NJ’s ‘Bubblegum’ song, they sound similar. Plagiarising music has copyright law in its side, unlike copying concepts.
I have lived long enough to spot an unprofessional and an entitled narcissist right from the start.
When I first heard New Jeans, I thought it was a copy of Jeans from Mexico. Jeans in Mexico is not a group any more, some when solos and a group of three began to call themselves JNS. The father of one of the girls was the producer, so he might be interested in doing something, don't know.
Min Hee Jin was selling a knock-off jeans
wait did the director of NJ confirmed that they refrenced Jeans?
Yes. He excused the copying by claiming it was an old group, not contemporary or modern, and therefore it was ok. I'm curious what his timeframe on the expiration of plagiarism is. If he's copying something older than a year, does that mean it's ok?
Now how can we bring this issue to the attention of Jeans members 😮😮
To be honest, she sounds like a classic narcissist and with that type, their lies eventually catch up to them and expose them but they usually continue believing in their own right and entitlement no matter what... 🙈🙈🙈
I agree. She really does exhibit legitimate narcissistic behavior. Her inability to admit to faults, how her own faults are everyone else's fault, how the girls' success is solely because of her and not because they worked hard or are talented... etc. The list is long. Those girls will only suffer being under her. I hope they stay with Hybe.
@@cct2825I hope they don't stay under Hybe, the members were siding and protecting MHJ even when she was attacking multiple groups and most importantly BTS!! Their freaking seniors!! They can leave and never come back!
@beluuzz they are kids. And kids under the influence of an extremely manipulative person, no less. Like Fairlane said - the girls of New Jeans are completely alone. There is no one currently guiding them who does not have something to gain from them (money/stability) ; not their parents, not their team, and certainly not MHJ. Whatever advice they are given by the grown ups surrounding them is tainted with selfishness.
Irony is ILLIT only has minor elements similar to New Jeans whereas the overall concept of ILLIT is much more traditional j-pop fairy concept aimed at otaku audience. New Jeans on the other hand is a literally the new Jeans.
Please spread this everywhere!
Exactly, NJ is a total knock off while they accuse other of plagarizing them.
I feel sorry the the NJs members... apart from the fact that they're mostly young, they're under direction from someone who they trusted... it's a shame because they have potential to be really talented... I hope someone takes them under their wing and steers them in the right direction before they get lost in all this nonsense...
They already sided with MHJ and are protecting her. I don't feel sorry for them, especially when their seniors (BTS) were being attacked and they still decided to protect MHJ.
@@beluuzz I do get what you're saying and you're right ... I think they felt they had little choice when they're under contract - it doesn't make it right of course and I'm guessing they are feeling different about her now - probably too little too late.
The nerve of her claiming plagiarism when she obviously was the one doing it 💀
She's projecting her wrongdoings onto others.
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Copy copy
Mhj is a hypocrite. Her accusing Hybe's "illit" of copying her was just her projecting her own internal guilt. Wow!😮😮😮
“The saying “people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones' ' really applies here. For me it’s not about copying another group's look ,dance moves or even style.. In the music business there are no totally new things only using what came before to build on that to create something new. I have a problem with the hypocrisy of MHJ and her creative team. For weeks they have pointed the finger at Illet and other groups, claiming that they were plagiarizing their dance moves. concepts and style. MHJ was so original in creative direction that everyone else need to stop copying her. The definition for hypocrisy is “the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform;” The creative team and MHJ owe Illet and the other groups they have dragged through the mud a big apology.
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Thank you for the update. Miss Min has truely been 'hoist by her own petard'.
Mhj and nj are creating enemies within the industry. They tey to isolate themselves. Wat wud the older geoupstin hybe think about their privilege mentality. They did not suffer like the older groups, wat wud they feel if a junior thinks like that. Huh
This just keeps getting funnier and funnier. I can't wait for the end of the month...
Honestly I dont care about MHJ and her copying, what pisses me off is she is a hypocrite acting as if she has invented the whole concept and accusing several grps for copying her which was not even hers😂😂
I think that's how most people feel.
I think it was just an excuse for her copying and saying that hybe treating her bad so she can take ador herself. She plain this before illit debuted. She didn't know how good she had it. You can fly so high, but you have come down to eat sometimes. And now she knows.
If they took inspiration from this other group regardless of it being recent or not then they should have referenced them. The fact is they didn’t then chose to point out when others had done it. Honestly mhj and her side look like a bunch of hypocrites now more than ever. I’m not daft I know hybe aren’t perfect either but there’s just to much she’s lied about just to paint herself in the right light and unfortunately it looks like she may end up taking new jeans with her
You need to check your definition of plagarism, Min He Jin already made it clear that she is taking inspiration and referencing older pop groups. Plagarism is when you claim something is your own completely which MHJ didn't do. You're making an argument from silence.
Well, This all Started because NJs fans took MHJ's words and started saying that Having black hair, Wearing Hanboks and having some same dance steps also debuting as young girls is plagarism but Whe n It comes to NJs everything is Actually inspiration,.... Also The song they used whole sythn and instrumental for attention was released only three years ago. Taking inspiration is OK but Doesnt inspiration has its limits cause From Songs name, Album name, Group name, Styling, MVs and even hairstyles, fonts and color palettes everything seems similar... but Having black hair, wearing Hanbok is plagarism right? It's the hypocrisy for me...
You are the one who doesn't know what that means. She didn't acknowledge it and claimed NJ was original. She didn't give credit even when she referenced it. You are what she called her puppet. Someone who doesn't know the definition is telling others they don't is embarrassing. Getting caught and acknowledging it is very different.
She claimed in her presscon that she's incensed at how ILLIT copied NJ styling! They're the original! That's why NJ fans roared all over the web and went after this new Gg and Hybe.
Ador did try to pass it off as their own though, which is plagiarism. It's literally the definition, at least by Oxford Languages, the first thing that comes up with a simple Google search. And, also you can commit plagiarism even if you don't "claim something is your own completely." If not enough about it has been changed, it can still be plagiarism. Think of Olivia Rodrigo and Paramour. She had to retroactively credit them with one of her songs, because her song sound so similar to Misery Business and I don't think she was intentionally trying to plagiarize. She even said Paramour is one of her inspirations, the problem is the song wasn't different enough that they decided to add Paramour to the credits so there would be no plagiarism allegations and Paramour would get paid. Typically if you take reference or inspiration from older pop groups, you mention those groups fairly early on, make enough changes to art that it's unique enough to not be plagiarism or get permission to use their art, or you take reference from a group that is so culturally well known and iconic that people understand where you're inspiration is coming from (think of all the groups that will use iconic dance moves from Michael Jackson - no one screams plagiarism because it's so well known where the inspiration comes from and the assumption is that you're paying tribute. They'll also usually just incorporate these moves into new choreography making the whole unique and not an outright copy, again making changes so it comes off as a tribute and inspiration and not plagiarism). They didn't do this with NJs, the fact that they "took inspiration" from a group not widely known and never credited this group, is an indication that they were hoping people wouldn't notice which again goes back to the definition of plagiarism and passing things off as your own.
She only claimed to be inspired by older pop groups after people noticed how many groups ‘concept’ was actually she was claiming was hers and original. If no one had found out we would all be none the wiser today. Referencing someone after the fact does not count you need to do it at the time so they have a right to a portion of the revenue. She has claimed all a long until recently that it was all her own concept, so no one had been acknowledged or referenced at the time so no one received some proportion of the revenue. Sometimes people plagiarise unintentionally and admit that they did by error and address it. She has admitted she was inspired by the group and copied concepts in styling, choreography imaging etc, too many to say it was just inspiration it is what it is plagiarism. The question is will she compensate them?
The difference being one is a recent girl group from the same company, from the same country. The other one isn't. "Plagiarism" is only a issue when it causes harm. New Jeans does get harmed by ILLIT blatantly copying them. It harms their market value. It doesn't harm Jeans in anyway because they are not even active and not even in the same country. The hybe stans are coping, attacking new jeans only harms HYBE further. That's because they allowed it lol.
Lol. What are you doing here. illogical thinking is not allowed here.
Wow! Let me know where you learnt this definition of "plagiarism". "Harm" doesn't come in terms of money only. The greater harm comes from the theft of intellectual property. That is why concepts such as "copyright" exist! You think NJ, a more popular group, capitalising on the concepts of another less popular group and claiming to be original, thereby depriving that group of their due credit is okay? Because using similar concepts is normalised in k-pop, HYBE perhaps didn't even think of Illit as "copying" and went on with the idea to make another successful HYBE girl since that formula worked because it is ultimately a company that has to look for ways to make profit while making music and guess what? It worked! . If Illit is "copying" NJ, Babymonster too is "copying" Black Pink. But MHJ and NJ's parents made an issue of it because they couldn't tolerate Illit succeeding and surpassing their group.They would still have the right to point fingers if they were themselves original! When they even went to the extent of copying the name and the style in which it is written, they are the last people to call themselves morally credible artists! And it's such a shame that people like you even now do not realise who the main problem is!.
Sorry to say but Nj is over....they will be kicked out of that Hybe building😂
Jeans is still active in Mexico.
@@pheonix9929 sadly I agree. They have exhausted the patience of HYBE and logical fans.
😂hear we go again an angry BTS fan. They even did a social experiment. You’ve reached the “shout them down stage”. K-pop today without BTS is back to being loving, happy & fun, collaborating & being supportive. There is no concept of competition or winning Grammies. Which is what hype want. Joke