So great that you were able to include the video of you opening the box. That was a treat. Obviously we're thrilled it struck a chord and that the records all checked out so well. As Chris noted yeah there's even a few in the box there I need to track down myself. But looks like you've gotten through quite a bit already, or maybe even everything?! Nice shout there for Global Communication, need to revisit that. And loved the Clerkin Trio last year, yes very much indebted to the 90s which is perhaps why I like it. And the Broadcast certainly made the rounds in the house here. It does make sense as a CD release for sure. Again, glad you dug the package and happy to do it
@spectrum_archives2 сағат бұрын
Nice one!
@oscarlund3514 сағат бұрын
Hello. Lots of information to digest today, luckily I'm really hungry. I haven't heard those Surman records since the 90s, he was actually the one who got me interested in ECM. Thank you for sharing your interest with us.
@cedricfeschotte83512 сағат бұрын
Fred, that smile on your face when opening that package... it made my day! That's what it's all about. VCLT FTW and tour-de-force by Dom & co -- endless enjoyment ensues on both sides. And as you unbox me taking notes as always 🤪 ✍ the ever-growing want-list...
@StuntrockConfusion15 сағат бұрын
Lena Platanos, my one true love.
@iblamesummersКүн бұрын
22:48 have you done an ECM segment or did I miss it?
@bigstar1000Күн бұрын
@@iblamesummers meaning an ECM video? I’m not sure what you mean by ECM segment…🧐
@christopherkibler511Күн бұрын
Fred, that VCLT was a really nice gesture from everyone involved. Good Jack Rose music for the primitive guitar video. I pulled together a pile of guitar albums, but they don't all qualify as primitive. You caused me to look at the Wall Matthews discography, which was interesting to explore. That John Surman album reminds me that I also pulled the last ten ECM albums that I found. Thanks, Chris
@bigstar1000Күн бұрын
Thanks for stopping by. Wall Matthews is certainly an interesting name to look up. I discovered it as part of the package. Beautiful music.
@williammcdonald4922Күн бұрын
thank-you for another enlightening video. I hadn't been to any of my locals for months, but today i sallied forth and found both a David Darling (Cycles) and the John Surman that you showed. I haven't listened yet to the Surman, but the Darling is quite beautiful.
@bigstar1000Күн бұрын
Cycles is brilliant indeed, as is Cello too (but only exists on CD) and bith the Surman I showed here are incredible. Glad you were able to grab those!
@christophe-postsКүн бұрын
Dropped back to say lovely selection, just read 'Voice Ping Strum' is an anagram of 'Moving Pictures', Gilbert's 1st album, I loved that. The record sounds excellent too, been trying to get his first few albums in my collection. Dr Pete Larson, Pan Ra & Darling's 'Cello' were all new to me, immediately getting them on the wantlist. Great to see an Electrolane shout out, I used to totally love them. If there was one Rai album to get what would you suggest? Also I just started a mix series you might like, if you type 'Never Modern: A Time for Healing' into mixcloud you should find it. Good commute company. Be well and catch you soon!
@bigstar1000Күн бұрын
Oh yeah nice anagram. I have Moving Pictures, and now Voice Ping Strum. The cycle is complete! I'm no Raï specialist alas, but Stunty would be a good source of knowledge in that respect. That comp I showed is a pretty good primer. Thanks for the mixcloud link, I found you. I will listen on the train.
@Oakenshield69Күн бұрын
Very cool. What a lovely package from the guys!
@bigstar1000Күн бұрын
They overdid it!
@michaelvalentini48692 күн бұрын
Fred, flabbergasted is one of my favorite words, I don't know the derivation of it, but it just sounds so good. That Janet Millard album is on the 1750 Arch Records label, I would love to own their entire catalog. I'm sure she must do a fantastic version of ''The Jet Whistle'' by Villa- Lobos. Wall Matthews was a member of Entourage. When I did a video about an Entourage archive release, Stunty sent me a comment about his time spent with Wall Matthews when he met with him in Paris. When you get a chance, ask Stunty about the great background story. Carm recently did an Arvo Part video prompted by your Gimme Ten Minimalists video. Enjoy your gifts, one at a time, and chew them well!
@bigstar1000Күн бұрын
Oh yeah you are right he was in the Entourage Ensemble indeed. I remember reading that somewhere. I shall ask Stunty about him. And watch Carm. Cheers Michael!
@johncoltrane682 күн бұрын
We were all excited to put it together and get it in your hands..comes from a place of real love and appreciation for our brother and friend..and reflects your open ears and wide musical ground.. The millard is lovely and perfect to greet the morning. Wow felix verder!..that is a rarity and a big want here..great thrift score!.. Lol my friends at music research library which is an amazing record shop in boston put that evohe out after getting in touch with the band. They gave me one of the few test pressings they did and regular copy..ya i always try to find something from the homeland and could not go the chanson route this time..😂..that wall matthews stunty sent is still a sleeper though due to stunty less so..😀. He was a member of the entourage music ensemble.. I have seen that ambience lp on line..john elder did an lp i am looking for Antarctica i think..kinda rare though. Love michael william gilbert 💖. I told dom i myself still need that surman..lol..i think it is only surman on ecm i need still..i never thought about the hockney reference on the cover but after you said that it does..lol..agree on surman in general. Ya pan-ra both there lp's are fantastic..very ritualistic also kind of third ear band quality. Was great to be a part of this package everybody hit it on the head and truly embodies the community aspect of our little tribe..much love always brother...chris
@bigstar1000Күн бұрын
Thanks so so much! The records you sent my way are all on point. I played the Uday Shankar music last night too. I am well versed in his story as a dancer so that's cool to hear the music at last. I'm sure that Surman will turn up eventually. Agree on all comments you made there. Nice that you're friends with the dudes that run the Music Research Library.
@statictraveller2 күн бұрын
Such a thoughtful package from everyone, Fred. A real feast for the ears! The uncontained joy on your face during the unboxing clip was infectious. Lovely stuff.
@bigstar1000Күн бұрын
That smile I couldn't hide! You are right there.
@diamond_marimbaКүн бұрын
@@statictraveller agree alan, that was fun
@christophe-posts2 күн бұрын
That is the most heart-warming thing I've seen on the VC! I'll comment again but when I've watched the whole video but just so wonderful ❤
@bigstar1000Күн бұрын
It was hugely heart-warming, no question!
@philbell57742 күн бұрын
Generosity like this restores my faith in human nature. What a beautiful gift! As usual am straight onto youtube to check some of these albums out. Have a great day.
@bigstar1000Күн бұрын
You have a great day too man!
@Thevinylscavenger2 күн бұрын
What a lovely thing to do and curated from different people. VC spirit is alive and well. You aren't at least totally isolated in Aus anyway and we are all (mostly) on the same planet. As per usual England bottled the final though they'd have to have pulled a big one out the bag to beat a top Spain side. Actually I'm half Spanish so I couldn't lose. I find England tactically behind other countries even with the top players we have. I think Kane will fade out now he's done well to orchestrate his move to Germany to keep him going a bit longer. Slower league. Easier. Maybe he'll even win something next season 😅
@bigstar1000Күн бұрын
Euro was a giant snoozefest methinks. France was awful, for a team that I follow. Mind you I can't expect them to be in every possible final (I have seen them win 2 world cups and one Euro, I think I'm OK with it, plus 2 other WC finals). England was also pedestrian at best. Oh well. The best team won. Arsenal look like they're making interesting moves for next season....
@diamond_marimba2 күн бұрын
glad everything arrived safely, kudos to dom for coordinating. pan ra was a nice discovery for me last year, I also gave a copy of their other record to sherv which he really enjoyed. totally agree about format with these somewhat bloated releases-- cumbersome.
@bigstar1000Күн бұрын
Every record you sent was amazing, so thanks a million again!
@andorrasrevenge16832 күн бұрын
Wall Matthews!
@bigstar1000Күн бұрын
Super cool indeed
@renetrachet2 күн бұрын
Raï is a form of Algerian folk music that dates back to the 1920s. Singers of Raï are called cheb
@bigstar1000Күн бұрын
Well yes, but I feel I was talking about the modern era, rather than its originators. The Modern Raï school is from the late 70's onwards. Maybe I didn't express myself well enough there.
@diamond_marimbaКүн бұрын
@bigstar1000 you've been exposed fred, I'm unsubbing
@bigstar1000Күн бұрын
@@diamond_marimba Go for your life! 😂😂😂
@renetrachetКүн бұрын
@@bigstar1000 No problem Fred. I enjoy your vdo's very much
@StuntrockConfusion15 сағат бұрын
Actually, young raï up and coming singers are called Cheb for men and Cheba for women, and they lose the prefix when they become established.
@gorvo312 күн бұрын
Hey Fred, What sweet collaborative giftage from everyone! Am naturally intrigued by much of it. Anything with David Darling...of course...as with Surman....Ashra meets Popol Vuh...indeed, I'm there! This was wonderful, lots to peruse further. 🙂 -Carm
@bigstar1000Күн бұрын
Yes indeed Carm, lovely gifts indeed. I shall check out you Arvo Pärt video this week.
@Campo0072 күн бұрын
That's my favourite John Surman record.
@bigstar1000Күн бұрын
It is dynamite
@PlutoTheGod2 күн бұрын
What a phenomenal package to receive
@bigstar1000Күн бұрын
Agreed!
@goldthredz6 күн бұрын
Love your videos. Thank you !!
@bigstar10003 күн бұрын
Thanks for the feedback!
@gidgetmaurer12317 күн бұрын
There's a Philip Glass piece called Music From The Screens that is lesser known but fantastic. Less minimal maybe. That Floating Points record is stunning
@bigstar10003 күн бұрын
I don't know that particular piece, but I might check it out
@michaelvalentini486918 күн бұрын
Fred, I want to add some perfume to your excellent love letter. French poet, Rene Char's maxim, ''Each Act Is Virgin, Even The Repeated Ones'' applies to Minimalism, and is of course, a scientific truth and a great way to think about Life, itself. Ravel's ''Bolero'' is a perfect starting point to begin the framework of the Minimalist Movement. That piece always sounded Arabic, to me. The interaction between the Spanish and Arabic cultures, might prove me right, on this observation. Steve Reich was influenced by the hand-clapping of a Flamenco group that he saw after one of his concerts. He wrote the piece ''Clapping Music'', which is a favorite of mine, along with '' Music For Pieces Of Wood''. Mike Oldfield 's ''Tubular Bells'' sounds like a distant cousin of Terry Riley's '' In C''
@bigstar100018 күн бұрын
I never thought of it myself but you're right, Oldfield is a sort of a more mainstream minimalist. Even on pieces like Ommadawn he uses patterns that repeat. Spot on. And yes Bolero is quite clearly Spanish inflluenced.
@seekingathread19 күн бұрын
As usual, you've done a strong job of showcasing the hallmarks of the genre. These are pretty much all must haves for me. You could also throw in Pascal Comelade or Fluence or Roberto Musci who also utilize other sounds but minimalism is definitely part of their approach. Always love a Gimme Ten!
@bigstar100018 күн бұрын
Roberto Musci and Fluence absolutely. As I said, it's a genre that pervaded through many other styles and is to be found all around the musical map.
@statictraveller19 күн бұрын
I will keep this comment minimal in tone and in a low key: watched. enjoyed. enjoyed. watched. enjoyed. repeat.
@michaelvalentini486919 күн бұрын
Alan, do you like the band, Maximum Joy?
@bigstar100018 күн бұрын
Nice nod to the ethos! Thanks Alan.
@johncoltrane6819 күн бұрын
Solid overview of the style..like you said you can only do so much in a limited time and format..i have not heard that ravel piece in a long time and never thought about the link.. Ravel satie and debussy all i think touched on something early that evolved into these sounds. I always go even further back to gamelan music and african drumming..which you already know..also as you bring up indian music. Like alot of music i like this style also is highly immersive and evolving into a endless journey deeper into the soundpool and i never care if i drown.. Not much more to say solid selections for one to explore if there not familiar..plus some lesser known modern ones.. Your on a great role with these latest gimmie ten.. Much love chris
@bigstar100018 күн бұрын
Hey Chris, I am still to watch your latest video which I have in my 'to watch' list and mean to do so. I am always grateful to see you in the comments section. I agree with your take on Gamelan and African drumming. Those are absolutely influences. Debussy changed his approach listening to Gamelan so it must have had an effect on Steve Reich and Philip Glass at the very least.
@dwashington60719 күн бұрын
You can give me 10, 20, 30, 100! They're all fantastic my friend. More to explore. Thanks again professor.
@bigstar100018 күн бұрын
If I were a professor, we wouldn't learn very much sadly 😂😂😂😂
@Thevinylscavenger19 күн бұрын
So much noise and distractions in the world today. I hear tons of arvo part on radio 3. Terry Riley's big forehead! Thanks for sharing. My mum has Bolero on 7" so i listened to as a child then had to turn over halfway through which was a bit odd. Think I get ambient and minimalist mixed up a tad.Hope you are having a lovely summer there.
@bigstar100018 күн бұрын
Ambient is a form of minimalism if that helps unmix those in your head. How is England gonna fare against the Swiss? Interesting...
@Thevinylscavenger18 күн бұрын
@@bigstar1000 i think it's a potential shock not because England are so poor but The Swiss are looking very united and together. For us it'll depend too on can Xhaka not loose his head because of his edginess he's liable to get sent off. Could go to penalties. I'm half Spanish so I have pre made back up plan. How about France?
@bigstar100018 күн бұрын
@@Thevinylscavenger France Will be lucky if we make the semis. Team is playing like sh*t and we are yet to score a goal that’s not either an own goal or a penalty
@christopherkibler51119 күн бұрын
Fred, a great topic. I am comforted that even though I did not actively seek out minimalism I seemed to have arrived at the same point. The five add-on albums are another story, as I may have not have heard any of them, maybe Midori Takada. Some of the artists on the Lovely Music label bight be considered part of the minimalist community. Thanks, Chris
@bigstar100018 күн бұрын
Thanks Chris, I am only talking staples here, maybe to help newcomers, not people such as yourself with a deep musical culture. I need to check the Lovely Music label.
@ondeck678419 күн бұрын
I have the Japanese CD pressing of Midori Takada* Masahiko Satoh “Lunar Cruise “ it is a sonic gift.
@bigstar100018 күн бұрын
Lunar Cruise is amazing indeed, I have the album too.
@brianreynolds493119 күн бұрын
Excellent video as usual, Fred! When I saw the video subject, the first record that came to my mind is Rob Mazurek’s Alternate Moon Cycles album. It’s an extremely soothing record.
@bigstar100018 күн бұрын
Oh yeah, Mazurek's take on ambient meets jazz is definitely rooted in the minimalist mindset
@avrilconacher19 күн бұрын
An excellent introduction video to minimalism. I used to listen to minimalism a lot and your recommendations are spot on. I must return to these recordings again. Your video brought back so many musical memories.
@bigstar100018 күн бұрын
I'm glad it has inspired you somehow
@gorvo3120 күн бұрын
Hey Fred, Wonderful personal take on an approach to music that's among my personal favorites too. Most of the core of what you showed, plus Terry, Harold, Arvo have been among my favorite artists, albums overall for decades. Yes, feel especially similar on Alina. It tints the air beautifully. Arvo's an artist I've planned on doing a video on for years...must just get to it finally. 🙂Wow, I thought those were mutant panpipes on the last record! Am intrigued by all of those. Thanks for sharing as always. -Carm
@bigstar100018 күн бұрын
Hey Carm, thanks for your ongoing support. The last record is a trip indeed. Lots of crazy sounds on that one. Arvo would make a great video.
@nickmoys2220 күн бұрын
Interesting overview. Arvo Part’s music is just sublime. Would also suggest Julius Eastman.
@bigstar100018 күн бұрын
Yes Julius Eastman, he worked with Meredith Monk and Arthur Russell amongst others. His records are not easily available down these parts but you've certainly reminded me.
@nickmoys2218 күн бұрын
Some interesting recordings on Bandcamp, both new and historic. Series of CDs from Wild Up are worth checking out.
@philbell577420 күн бұрын
All great albums. One could argue that minimalism was partly a sort of response to (for me) the sterile serialism of much of post war modern classical music. Music that was technically and conceptually brilliant but very hard to listen to for an extended period. If you don't know it could I recommend Poiemusia Lá Nau Dels Argonautes by Pep Llopis former member of the Spanish Prog band Coto En Pel. Its mix of minimalism, electronics, folk melodies, and chanted Catalan poetry is pure beauty in motion.
@FranceBizarre20 күн бұрын
This Pep Llopis is absolutely perfect. Thanks for the discovery!
@philbell577420 күн бұрын
@@FranceBizarre 👍
@bigstar100018 күн бұрын
There happens to be a copy on Discogs here in Oz so thanks for the recommendation!
@simondoerken20 күн бұрын
Hey! Another great show! Thank you! Personally, I've been following minimalism since decades... and I would like to add another highlight: raul lovisoni / francesco messina - prati bagnati del monte analogo 😊 If you don‘t know you have to check! Best Regards from Darmstadt ✌️
@bigstar100018 күн бұрын
Yep I did consider getting that record a while back but forgot about it somehow. Vielen Dank für die Gedächtnisstütze!
@andorrasrevenge168320 күн бұрын
"Throwing marimbas"..... love it! Great video as always.
@bigstar100018 күн бұрын
Someone reacted to my attempt at humour! 😂😂😂
@cjw33320 күн бұрын
I just discovered your channel recently and I'm really enjoying the videos. Have you ever done one on the disciples of the minimalists (i.e., those heavily influenced by the Mount Rushmore and incorporating minimalism in slightly more mainstream music)? It would be great to hear your take on favorites in your collection. I've been getting into John Cale recently and really love Church of Anthrax with Terry Riley. I know Cale spent time with La Monte Young and the Theatre of Eternal Music among others and obviously brought his minimalist influence to the Velvet Underground.
@bigstar100018 күн бұрын
Thanks for being here and commenting, always appreciate newcomers giving their input here. I have discussed some records influenced by minimalism at the end of the video but will think of others for future videos.
@jonlevinson300022 күн бұрын
Okay! The bigstar1K luck comes through again - found a used, promo copy of "Passion Sources" a few days after this . two days later I found a sealed copy?! Sheesh ... already have "Plus from Us" on CD. and speaking of 4th World - bought a copy of Arve Henricksen / Kjetil Husebø "Sequential Stream" - on sale from our friends in Italy - recommended.
@bigstar100021 күн бұрын
Well I seem to act as a good luck charm here. Hope it continues. By 'our friends in Italy' do you mean Soundohm? I'm only guessing, but I have never bought from them so I wouldn't know.
@jonlevinson300021 күн бұрын
@@bigstar1000 yes I mean Soundohm
@cedricfeschotte83525 күн бұрын
Great pick for the return of the gimme ten Fred! I took a bunch of notes as I have just dipped my toes into the genre and like it very much. It's amazing how prolific some of those musicians are. I've gotten into Steve Roach and Muslimgauze lately - both deep rabbit holes! The Aussie bent on the genre makes total sense -- the didgeridoo is a perfect fodder for it. Anyway gimme ten is probably what drew me to your channel ages ago so I'm happy to see its comeback. ✌
@bigstar100024 күн бұрын
Well I'm glad you appreciate the return of the series. I'm planning more of those because it's a good way of rediscovering sections of my collection. The Gondwanaland in the video is the same one I sent you btw.
@cedricfeschotte83523 күн бұрын
@@bigstar1000 I LOVE it!
@uniquesoundsofamerica27 күн бұрын
Some nice recomms here, thanks. Have you heard the D.K / S.K. album on Melody As Truth from 2017?
@bigstar100026 күн бұрын
Not yet but thanks for the recommendation
@chris.e-t28 күн бұрын
Hey, I'm a bit late in watching your videos ! Some nice stuff here but Biosphere and Holger Czukay ❤❤
@bigstar100027 күн бұрын
@@chris.e-t both are amazing artists indeed!
@pereplex693328 күн бұрын
Its perfect Fred thanks you ,great choice
@bigstar100027 күн бұрын
@@pereplex6933 sans problème!
@seekingathread29 күн бұрын
Obviously love this topic and some for me to fill in. I know you mentioned the Sam Gendel / Sam Wilkes records as 4th World influenced. I certainly agree. Have you heard the new one in that series "The Doober"? I still need to check it out myself.
@bigstar100027 күн бұрын
@@seekingathread Gendel and Wilkes are definitely influenced by that sound. Haven’t heard the new one either
@pascaldowd875529 күн бұрын
First time listener... You hit the spot in what I like musically...Really like the range of records you talked about... You starting off with Jon Hassell meant I was in it t'ill the end... O Yuki, Muslimgauze... you really hit your spot and I do agree to bring in Peter Gabriel's Passion in the mix! Gondwanaland Project was a great discovery for me. I'll leave you with what you made me want to listen too after all of this: Colin Stetson - All This I Do For Glory
@bigstar100029 күн бұрын
I'm glad the choices were in the right ball park as these are essential artists and records, to me anyway. Thanks for the recommandation. I love Colin Stetson and have a few of his albums but I don't believe I heard this one.
@philipford618329 күн бұрын
To me, Fourth World music is typified by a mixture of Western music tech (primarily electronic) with native percussion and instrumentation (and sometimes vocals). I recommend Prem Joshua (fav track 'Bolo Hari'). Indian music and percussion married with a melodic Western sensibility. Beautiful.
@bigstar100029 күн бұрын
Well, although I didn't per se articulate what you said there, I think it was implied through the musicians (such as Eno and P.Gabriel) and the choice of treatments and instruments I spoke about, but yes, it is a mix between east and west. When I was thinking how to describe it, I was so hung up on doing it justice that I forgot to mention certain aspects.
@AlesPickar29 күн бұрын
@philipford6183 You are certainly not wrong, and those categorisations are rarely set in stone. But as a description it would apply to any kind of World Music, or World Beat. And Jon Hassell, who coined the term, had a very precise, and yet quite abstract definition of "Fourth World Music". Particularly, to distinguish it from general Folklore and the sound, that was about to become "World Music". I guess, pure "4th World" must achieve the appearance of being exceedingly focused on a cultural narrative, or idea, while being a mere illusion at the same time. That's why "Passion" by Gabriel is such a strong example of "4th World", because it basically creates a completely convincing musical landscape, representing Judea around 32AD, while at a closer look having musically absolutely nothing to do with that time or region. So I guess "4th World" is often musically very speculative.
@AlesPickar29 күн бұрын
@@bigstar1000 For me, a great analogy for "4th World Music" would be the famous painting "La trahison des images (Ceci n’est pas une pipe)" by René Magritte from 1929. This mixture of visual photorealism and pure abstraction of the meaning is something that works under a similar paradigm as Jon Hassell's musical idea. Particularly when turning a Jazz trumpet into a highly convincing mysterious Polynesian (or whatever) instrument used on an island, that probably doesn't exist on a map. So basically all Jon Hassell records shout have a sticker on them, that says: "Ceci n'est pas World Music". 🙂
@johncoltrane6829 күн бұрын
This is a the sonic jungle i love to get lost in. My intro to hassell washis work on remain in light as a teen. I agree definitely transportive. Much in the same way i love pure ethnographic music. I just got a copy of that brook last year..still overlooked perhaps. I have passion sources on vinyl..which is fantastic. Gabriel's womad project was ahead of it's time imo and still one of the most important projects to bring much of this kinda music to a wider audience. Have not played that roach in long time..maybe i need to revisit it soon. Eros in Arabia is a long time favorites here have an og.. Just a killer lp.. Lol you spurred me to grab that baldan i had in my discogs cart forever..😂.. Think i play it this week. No finis here unfortunately luis was in the great world fusion band babia..babia themself's broach a fourth world approach as well. Need that terra still..great stuff..you sent me the live one..i love side 2 on that one. I really love aboriginal music which is naturally haunting and powerful..excellent return to the gimme ten series brother. Much love chris
@bigstar100029 күн бұрын
Thanks Brother Chris, I know this music is right up your alley. The Bebo Baldan is a killer record and i know it will be well appreciated in your collection. The Gondwanaland is a super common record for us here, I now remember sending the live version to you. Olden days of the VC!
@AlesPickarАй бұрын
Salut! Of course, I could not ignore a video about one of my favorite sub-genres. Great to see O Yuki Conjugate being shown. This band is part of my life since 1990 and they are still pretty much alive and kicking in style. Great segment on Muslimgauze. You're so right. Bryn would freak out in 2024 and probably make 10 albums in a year. And I see that meanwhile you got the Richard Horowitz album. Is this the reissue with the Paul-Bowles-letter inside? So funny, Bowles writing something like: "Your album title is stupid, but what do I care..." :-)) Anyway, the best part for me was showing me some records I didn't know at all. I will look into the Bebo Baldan record. And I need to find this Finis Africae record. I have an album by Luis Delgado, called "El Hechizo De Babilonia", which is very charming and sophisticated. But also very orchestral.
@bigstar100029 күн бұрын
Moin Ales! Glad to see you here again. You would be well-versed in this genre of music indeed as you favour ethno/world centric artists. My copy of Eros in Arabia does not have the letter, oh well. That Luis Delgado lp would be killer!
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So great that you were able to include the video of you opening the box. That was a treat. Obviously we're thrilled it struck a chord and that the records all checked out so well. As Chris noted yeah there's even a few in the box there I need to track down myself. But looks like you've gotten through quite a bit already, or maybe even everything?! Nice shout there for Global Communication, need to revisit that. And loved the Clerkin Trio last year, yes very much indebted to the 90s which is perhaps why I like it. And the Broadcast certainly made the rounds in the house here. It does make sense as a CD release for sure. Again, glad you dug the package and happy to do it
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Hello. Lots of information to digest today, luckily I'm really hungry. I haven't heard those Surman records since the 90s, he was actually the one who got me interested in ECM. Thank you for sharing your interest with us.
Fred, that smile on your face when opening that package... it made my day! That's what it's all about. VCLT FTW and tour-de-force by Dom & co -- endless enjoyment ensues on both sides. And as you unbox me taking notes as always 🤪 ✍ the ever-growing want-list...
Lena Platanos, my one true love.
22:48 have you done an ECM segment or did I miss it?
@@iblamesummers meaning an ECM video? I’m not sure what you mean by ECM segment…🧐
Fred, that VCLT was a really nice gesture from everyone involved. Good Jack Rose music for the primitive guitar video. I pulled together a pile of guitar albums, but they don't all qualify as primitive. You caused me to look at the Wall Matthews discography, which was interesting to explore. That John Surman album reminds me that I also pulled the last ten ECM albums that I found. Thanks, Chris
Thanks for stopping by. Wall Matthews is certainly an interesting name to look up. I discovered it as part of the package. Beautiful music.
thank-you for another enlightening video. I hadn't been to any of my locals for months, but today i sallied forth and found both a David Darling (Cycles) and the John Surman that you showed. I haven't listened yet to the Surman, but the Darling is quite beautiful.
Cycles is brilliant indeed, as is Cello too (but only exists on CD) and bith the Surman I showed here are incredible. Glad you were able to grab those!
Dropped back to say lovely selection, just read 'Voice Ping Strum' is an anagram of 'Moving Pictures', Gilbert's 1st album, I loved that. The record sounds excellent too, been trying to get his first few albums in my collection. Dr Pete Larson, Pan Ra & Darling's 'Cello' were all new to me, immediately getting them on the wantlist. Great to see an Electrolane shout out, I used to totally love them. If there was one Rai album to get what would you suggest? Also I just started a mix series you might like, if you type 'Never Modern: A Time for Healing' into mixcloud you should find it. Good commute company. Be well and catch you soon!
Oh yeah nice anagram. I have Moving Pictures, and now Voice Ping Strum. The cycle is complete! I'm no Raï specialist alas, but Stunty would be a good source of knowledge in that respect. That comp I showed is a pretty good primer. Thanks for the mixcloud link, I found you. I will listen on the train.
Very cool. What a lovely package from the guys!
They overdid it!
Fred, flabbergasted is one of my favorite words, I don't know the derivation of it, but it just sounds so good. That Janet Millard album is on the 1750 Arch Records label, I would love to own their entire catalog. I'm sure she must do a fantastic version of ''The Jet Whistle'' by Villa- Lobos. Wall Matthews was a member of Entourage. When I did a video about an Entourage archive release, Stunty sent me a comment about his time spent with Wall Matthews when he met with him in Paris. When you get a chance, ask Stunty about the great background story. Carm recently did an Arvo Part video prompted by your Gimme Ten Minimalists video. Enjoy your gifts, one at a time, and chew them well!
Oh yeah you are right he was in the Entourage Ensemble indeed. I remember reading that somewhere. I shall ask Stunty about him. And watch Carm. Cheers Michael!
We were all excited to put it together and get it in your hands..comes from a place of real love and appreciation for our brother and friend..and reflects your open ears and wide musical ground.. The millard is lovely and perfect to greet the morning. Wow felix verder!..that is a rarity and a big want here..great thrift score!.. Lol my friends at music research library which is an amazing record shop in boston put that evohe out after getting in touch with the band. They gave me one of the few test pressings they did and regular copy..ya i always try to find something from the homeland and could not go the chanson route this time..😂..that wall matthews stunty sent is still a sleeper though due to stunty less so..😀. He was a member of the entourage music ensemble.. I have seen that ambience lp on line..john elder did an lp i am looking for Antarctica i think..kinda rare though. Love michael william gilbert 💖. I told dom i myself still need that surman..lol..i think it is only surman on ecm i need still..i never thought about the hockney reference on the cover but after you said that it does..lol..agree on surman in general. Ya pan-ra both there lp's are fantastic..very ritualistic also kind of third ear band quality. Was great to be a part of this package everybody hit it on the head and truly embodies the community aspect of our little tribe..much love always brother...chris
Thanks so so much! The records you sent my way are all on point. I played the Uday Shankar music last night too. I am well versed in his story as a dancer so that's cool to hear the music at last. I'm sure that Surman will turn up eventually. Agree on all comments you made there. Nice that you're friends with the dudes that run the Music Research Library.
Such a thoughtful package from everyone, Fred. A real feast for the ears! The uncontained joy on your face during the unboxing clip was infectious. Lovely stuff.
That smile I couldn't hide! You are right there.
@@statictraveller agree alan, that was fun
That is the most heart-warming thing I've seen on the VC! I'll comment again but when I've watched the whole video but just so wonderful ❤
It was hugely heart-warming, no question!
Generosity like this restores my faith in human nature. What a beautiful gift! As usual am straight onto youtube to check some of these albums out. Have a great day.
You have a great day too man!
What a lovely thing to do and curated from different people. VC spirit is alive and well. You aren't at least totally isolated in Aus anyway and we are all (mostly) on the same planet. As per usual England bottled the final though they'd have to have pulled a big one out the bag to beat a top Spain side. Actually I'm half Spanish so I couldn't lose. I find England tactically behind other countries even with the top players we have. I think Kane will fade out now he's done well to orchestrate his move to Germany to keep him going a bit longer. Slower league. Easier. Maybe he'll even win something next season 😅
Euro was a giant snoozefest methinks. France was awful, for a team that I follow. Mind you I can't expect them to be in every possible final (I have seen them win 2 world cups and one Euro, I think I'm OK with it, plus 2 other WC finals). England was also pedestrian at best. Oh well. The best team won. Arsenal look like they're making interesting moves for next season....
glad everything arrived safely, kudos to dom for coordinating. pan ra was a nice discovery for me last year, I also gave a copy of their other record to sherv which he really enjoyed. totally agree about format with these somewhat bloated releases-- cumbersome.
Every record you sent was amazing, so thanks a million again!
Wall Matthews!
Super cool indeed
Raï is a form of Algerian folk music that dates back to the 1920s. Singers of Raï are called cheb
Well yes, but I feel I was talking about the modern era, rather than its originators. The Modern Raï school is from the late 70's onwards. Maybe I didn't express myself well enough there.
@bigstar1000 you've been exposed fred, I'm unsubbing
@@diamond_marimba Go for your life! 😂😂😂
@@bigstar1000 No problem Fred. I enjoy your vdo's very much
Actually, young raï up and coming singers are called Cheb for men and Cheba for women, and they lose the prefix when they become established.
Hey Fred, What sweet collaborative giftage from everyone! Am naturally intrigued by much of it. Anything with David Darling...of course...as with Surman....Ashra meets Popol Vuh...indeed, I'm there! This was wonderful, lots to peruse further. 🙂 -Carm
Yes indeed Carm, lovely gifts indeed. I shall check out you Arvo Pärt video this week.
That's my favourite John Surman record.
It is dynamite
What a phenomenal package to receive
Agreed!
Love your videos. Thank you !!
Thanks for the feedback!
There's a Philip Glass piece called Music From The Screens that is lesser known but fantastic. Less minimal maybe. That Floating Points record is stunning
I don't know that particular piece, but I might check it out
Fred, I want to add some perfume to your excellent love letter. French poet, Rene Char's maxim, ''Each Act Is Virgin, Even The Repeated Ones'' applies to Minimalism, and is of course, a scientific truth and a great way to think about Life, itself. Ravel's ''Bolero'' is a perfect starting point to begin the framework of the Minimalist Movement. That piece always sounded Arabic, to me. The interaction between the Spanish and Arabic cultures, might prove me right, on this observation. Steve Reich was influenced by the hand-clapping of a Flamenco group that he saw after one of his concerts. He wrote the piece ''Clapping Music'', which is a favorite of mine, along with '' Music For Pieces Of Wood''. Mike Oldfield 's ''Tubular Bells'' sounds like a distant cousin of Terry Riley's '' In C''
I never thought of it myself but you're right, Oldfield is a sort of a more mainstream minimalist. Even on pieces like Ommadawn he uses patterns that repeat. Spot on. And yes Bolero is quite clearly Spanish inflluenced.
As usual, you've done a strong job of showcasing the hallmarks of the genre. These are pretty much all must haves for me. You could also throw in Pascal Comelade or Fluence or Roberto Musci who also utilize other sounds but minimalism is definitely part of their approach. Always love a Gimme Ten!
Roberto Musci and Fluence absolutely. As I said, it's a genre that pervaded through many other styles and is to be found all around the musical map.
I will keep this comment minimal in tone and in a low key: watched. enjoyed. enjoyed. watched. enjoyed. repeat.
Alan, do you like the band, Maximum Joy?
Nice nod to the ethos! Thanks Alan.
Solid overview of the style..like you said you can only do so much in a limited time and format..i have not heard that ravel piece in a long time and never thought about the link.. Ravel satie and debussy all i think touched on something early that evolved into these sounds. I always go even further back to gamelan music and african drumming..which you already know..also as you bring up indian music. Like alot of music i like this style also is highly immersive and evolving into a endless journey deeper into the soundpool and i never care if i drown.. Not much more to say solid selections for one to explore if there not familiar..plus some lesser known modern ones.. Your on a great role with these latest gimmie ten.. Much love chris
Hey Chris, I am still to watch your latest video which I have in my 'to watch' list and mean to do so. I am always grateful to see you in the comments section. I agree with your take on Gamelan and African drumming. Those are absolutely influences. Debussy changed his approach listening to Gamelan so it must have had an effect on Steve Reich and Philip Glass at the very least.
You can give me 10, 20, 30, 100! They're all fantastic my friend. More to explore. Thanks again professor.
If I were a professor, we wouldn't learn very much sadly 😂😂😂😂
So much noise and distractions in the world today. I hear tons of arvo part on radio 3. Terry Riley's big forehead! Thanks for sharing. My mum has Bolero on 7" so i listened to as a child then had to turn over halfway through which was a bit odd. Think I get ambient and minimalist mixed up a tad.Hope you are having a lovely summer there.
Ambient is a form of minimalism if that helps unmix those in your head. How is England gonna fare against the Swiss? Interesting...
@@bigstar1000 i think it's a potential shock not because England are so poor but The Swiss are looking very united and together. For us it'll depend too on can Xhaka not loose his head because of his edginess he's liable to get sent off. Could go to penalties. I'm half Spanish so I have pre made back up plan. How about France?
@@Thevinylscavenger France Will be lucky if we make the semis. Team is playing like sh*t and we are yet to score a goal that’s not either an own goal or a penalty
Fred, a great topic. I am comforted that even though I did not actively seek out minimalism I seemed to have arrived at the same point. The five add-on albums are another story, as I may have not have heard any of them, maybe Midori Takada. Some of the artists on the Lovely Music label bight be considered part of the minimalist community. Thanks, Chris
Thanks Chris, I am only talking staples here, maybe to help newcomers, not people such as yourself with a deep musical culture. I need to check the Lovely Music label.
I have the Japanese CD pressing of Midori Takada* Masahiko Satoh “Lunar Cruise “ it is a sonic gift.
Lunar Cruise is amazing indeed, I have the album too.
Excellent video as usual, Fred! When I saw the video subject, the first record that came to my mind is Rob Mazurek’s Alternate Moon Cycles album. It’s an extremely soothing record.
Oh yeah, Mazurek's take on ambient meets jazz is definitely rooted in the minimalist mindset
An excellent introduction video to minimalism. I used to listen to minimalism a lot and your recommendations are spot on. I must return to these recordings again. Your video brought back so many musical memories.
I'm glad it has inspired you somehow
Hey Fred, Wonderful personal take on an approach to music that's among my personal favorites too. Most of the core of what you showed, plus Terry, Harold, Arvo have been among my favorite artists, albums overall for decades. Yes, feel especially similar on Alina. It tints the air beautifully. Arvo's an artist I've planned on doing a video on for years...must just get to it finally. 🙂Wow, I thought those were mutant panpipes on the last record! Am intrigued by all of those. Thanks for sharing as always. -Carm
Hey Carm, thanks for your ongoing support. The last record is a trip indeed. Lots of crazy sounds on that one. Arvo would make a great video.
Interesting overview. Arvo Part’s music is just sublime. Would also suggest Julius Eastman.
Yes Julius Eastman, he worked with Meredith Monk and Arthur Russell amongst others. His records are not easily available down these parts but you've certainly reminded me.
Some interesting recordings on Bandcamp, both new and historic. Series of CDs from Wild Up are worth checking out.
All great albums. One could argue that minimalism was partly a sort of response to (for me) the sterile serialism of much of post war modern classical music. Music that was technically and conceptually brilliant but very hard to listen to for an extended period. If you don't know it could I recommend Poiemusia Lá Nau Dels Argonautes by Pep Llopis former member of the Spanish Prog band Coto En Pel. Its mix of minimalism, electronics, folk melodies, and chanted Catalan poetry is pure beauty in motion.
This Pep Llopis is absolutely perfect. Thanks for the discovery!
@@FranceBizarre 👍
There happens to be a copy on Discogs here in Oz so thanks for the recommendation!
Hey! Another great show! Thank you! Personally, I've been following minimalism since decades... and I would like to add another highlight: raul lovisoni / francesco messina - prati bagnati del monte analogo 😊 If you don‘t know you have to check! Best Regards from Darmstadt ✌️
Yep I did consider getting that record a while back but forgot about it somehow. Vielen Dank für die Gedächtnisstütze!
"Throwing marimbas"..... love it! Great video as always.
Someone reacted to my attempt at humour! 😂😂😂
I just discovered your channel recently and I'm really enjoying the videos. Have you ever done one on the disciples of the minimalists (i.e., those heavily influenced by the Mount Rushmore and incorporating minimalism in slightly more mainstream music)? It would be great to hear your take on favorites in your collection. I've been getting into John Cale recently and really love Church of Anthrax with Terry Riley. I know Cale spent time with La Monte Young and the Theatre of Eternal Music among others and obviously brought his minimalist influence to the Velvet Underground.
Thanks for being here and commenting, always appreciate newcomers giving their input here. I have discussed some records influenced by minimalism at the end of the video but will think of others for future videos.
Okay! The bigstar1K luck comes through again - found a used, promo copy of "Passion Sources" a few days after this . two days later I found a sealed copy?! Sheesh ... already have "Plus from Us" on CD. and speaking of 4th World - bought a copy of Arve Henricksen / Kjetil Husebø "Sequential Stream" - on sale from our friends in Italy - recommended.
Well I seem to act as a good luck charm here. Hope it continues. By 'our friends in Italy' do you mean Soundohm? I'm only guessing, but I have never bought from them so I wouldn't know.
@@bigstar1000 yes I mean Soundohm
Great pick for the return of the gimme ten Fred! I took a bunch of notes as I have just dipped my toes into the genre and like it very much. It's amazing how prolific some of those musicians are. I've gotten into Steve Roach and Muslimgauze lately - both deep rabbit holes! The Aussie bent on the genre makes total sense -- the didgeridoo is a perfect fodder for it. Anyway gimme ten is probably what drew me to your channel ages ago so I'm happy to see its comeback. ✌
Well I'm glad you appreciate the return of the series. I'm planning more of those because it's a good way of rediscovering sections of my collection. The Gondwanaland in the video is the same one I sent you btw.
@@bigstar1000 I LOVE it!
Some nice recomms here, thanks. Have you heard the D.K / S.K. album on Melody As Truth from 2017?
Not yet but thanks for the recommendation
Hey, I'm a bit late in watching your videos ! Some nice stuff here but Biosphere and Holger Czukay ❤❤
@@chris.e-t both are amazing artists indeed!
Its perfect Fred thanks you ,great choice
@@pereplex6933 sans problème!
Obviously love this topic and some for me to fill in. I know you mentioned the Sam Gendel / Sam Wilkes records as 4th World influenced. I certainly agree. Have you heard the new one in that series "The Doober"? I still need to check it out myself.
@@seekingathread Gendel and Wilkes are definitely influenced by that sound. Haven’t heard the new one either
First time listener... You hit the spot in what I like musically...Really like the range of records you talked about... You starting off with Jon Hassell meant I was in it t'ill the end... O Yuki, Muslimgauze... you really hit your spot and I do agree to bring in Peter Gabriel's Passion in the mix! Gondwanaland Project was a great discovery for me. I'll leave you with what you made me want to listen too after all of this: Colin Stetson - All This I Do For Glory
I'm glad the choices were in the right ball park as these are essential artists and records, to me anyway. Thanks for the recommandation. I love Colin Stetson and have a few of his albums but I don't believe I heard this one.
To me, Fourth World music is typified by a mixture of Western music tech (primarily electronic) with native percussion and instrumentation (and sometimes vocals). I recommend Prem Joshua (fav track 'Bolo Hari'). Indian music and percussion married with a melodic Western sensibility. Beautiful.
Well, although I didn't per se articulate what you said there, I think it was implied through the musicians (such as Eno and P.Gabriel) and the choice of treatments and instruments I spoke about, but yes, it is a mix between east and west. When I was thinking how to describe it, I was so hung up on doing it justice that I forgot to mention certain aspects.
@philipford6183 You are certainly not wrong, and those categorisations are rarely set in stone. But as a description it would apply to any kind of World Music, or World Beat. And Jon Hassell, who coined the term, had a very precise, and yet quite abstract definition of "Fourth World Music". Particularly, to distinguish it from general Folklore and the sound, that was about to become "World Music". I guess, pure "4th World" must achieve the appearance of being exceedingly focused on a cultural narrative, or idea, while being a mere illusion at the same time. That's why "Passion" by Gabriel is such a strong example of "4th World", because it basically creates a completely convincing musical landscape, representing Judea around 32AD, while at a closer look having musically absolutely nothing to do with that time or region. So I guess "4th World" is often musically very speculative.
@@bigstar1000 For me, a great analogy for "4th World Music" would be the famous painting "La trahison des images (Ceci n’est pas une pipe)" by René Magritte from 1929. This mixture of visual photorealism and pure abstraction of the meaning is something that works under a similar paradigm as Jon Hassell's musical idea. Particularly when turning a Jazz trumpet into a highly convincing mysterious Polynesian (or whatever) instrument used on an island, that probably doesn't exist on a map. So basically all Jon Hassell records shout have a sticker on them, that says: "Ceci n'est pas World Music". 🙂
This is a the sonic jungle i love to get lost in. My intro to hassell washis work on remain in light as a teen. I agree definitely transportive. Much in the same way i love pure ethnographic music. I just got a copy of that brook last year..still overlooked perhaps. I have passion sources on vinyl..which is fantastic. Gabriel's womad project was ahead of it's time imo and still one of the most important projects to bring much of this kinda music to a wider audience. Have not played that roach in long time..maybe i need to revisit it soon. Eros in Arabia is a long time favorites here have an og.. Just a killer lp.. Lol you spurred me to grab that baldan i had in my discogs cart forever..😂.. Think i play it this week. No finis here unfortunately luis was in the great world fusion band babia..babia themself's broach a fourth world approach as well. Need that terra still..great stuff..you sent me the live one..i love side 2 on that one. I really love aboriginal music which is naturally haunting and powerful..excellent return to the gimme ten series brother. Much love chris
Thanks Brother Chris, I know this music is right up your alley. The Bebo Baldan is a killer record and i know it will be well appreciated in your collection. The Gondwanaland is a super common record for us here, I now remember sending the live version to you. Olden days of the VC!
Salut! Of course, I could not ignore a video about one of my favorite sub-genres. Great to see O Yuki Conjugate being shown. This band is part of my life since 1990 and they are still pretty much alive and kicking in style. Great segment on Muslimgauze. You're so right. Bryn would freak out in 2024 and probably make 10 albums in a year. And I see that meanwhile you got the Richard Horowitz album. Is this the reissue with the Paul-Bowles-letter inside? So funny, Bowles writing something like: "Your album title is stupid, but what do I care..." :-)) Anyway, the best part for me was showing me some records I didn't know at all. I will look into the Bebo Baldan record. And I need to find this Finis Africae record. I have an album by Luis Delgado, called "El Hechizo De Babilonia", which is very charming and sophisticated. But also very orchestral.
Moin Ales! Glad to see you here again. You would be well-versed in this genre of music indeed as you favour ethno/world centric artists. My copy of Eros in Arabia does not have the letter, oh well. That Luis Delgado lp would be killer!