OK. My take on this. I have never really watched any of Lady K Videos until you just pointed them out. Yea, you have a few points that I agree with. A lot of what you say and a lot of what he says (in fact what we all say ) is just personal preference. I don't have an arch on my monohull but if I were to do extensive cruising I would put one on. I have sailed many boats with them and they did not impede my aft view at all. I should say that I have taken your favored Gemini 35 on a 10 day delivery and found the helm station in a lousy position as you need to look through two windows to see forward. Also it even a small 3 foot sea I was getting slapped by waves under the bridge deck and it drove me nuts not to mention the more jerkier motion of sailing as the waves were hitting two hulls instead of one. I have owned a cat, Fountain Pajot and captained on others, Privilege ( a dog) Lagoon, and my favorite so far Catana. I am probably older than you and have most likely as many miles. I started sailing in 1965 and raced actively for 30 = years starting in 1975. I still have no problem getting up and down a companion way in a rough sea. BTW, I have my 100 ton masters license. I do admire some of the sailing channels out there as i feel the good ones are part fix it and part sailing because as we all know if you don't know how to work on your own boat it is not wise to be out there. I like Uma for what the did. Didn't buy a ouch. I disagree with the electric propulsion as I feel it limits you but I do feel they are better sailors for it as they have to be more attuned to the weather and don't just fire up the iron genny when things get slow. Most of these channels are promoting sailing without trying to put the others down to elevate themselves as it seems you are here Lady K has 66K subs you have just over 30K. The one I watched had almost 70K views. This one of yours has 17K (but it is still pretty fresh). I guess what I'm saying is , have your fun, promote your services, but have a little class and don't be a jerk and step on anybody else's toes to do it

@Leytonstone09

10 ай бұрын

79 now, plus first like. Your welcome

@conradsenior5843

9 ай бұрын

I am a pro sailor and agree. this fellow has left out major points that need to be discussed. I think I'll post a video because i can do way better than this.

@sterlingarcher1962

6 ай бұрын

@@conradsenior5843 Posting this comment so I'll get notified of your video once you make it and come back here to tell us. Unless you're just flappin gums and not really going to post ;-)

@driver3899

4 ай бұрын

@@conradsenior5843 Reminder, please make it

@DennisRobertson-xs7ym

16 күн бұрын

@@conradsenior5843 I 5 year old with a crayon sailboat can do better than this too.. Maybe you should aim a bit higher.🤣🤣

I've owned a 40 foot catamaran and a 43 foot monohull. The cat was one of those French ones (FP Lavezzi) in the 6-10 year age range and the mono was a low production volume centre-cockpit (Westerly 43) around 20 years old. The mono was about 40% of the cost to buy and significantly cheaper to operate and maintain. The cat was wonderfully comfortable at anchor and great for guests and entertaining. The mono was set up for a cruising couple with the occasional guest. It did, however, have a wonderfully spacious and comfortable aft berth with queen sized walk around berth - much better than on the catamaran. For less than half the price I got something which felt more solid and higher quality. I found the mono to also generally have a more comfortable motion while underway due to its heavy displacement with more of a slow rolling motion rather than the jerky lateral motion of the cat. The cat was also significantly noisier due to rushing water between the hulls not to mention occasional bridge deck slapping. My wife got less seasick on the mono than the cat. The problem with cats is that they are not so much fun to sail. You don't feel the wind and, instead, spend your time nervously staring at the wind instrument as that's the only way to know when you need to put in a reef. Despite the Lavezzi being one of the better looking cats, my Westerly had more aesthetic appeal although this is a very subjective thing and boat-specific. The mono wasn't as fast downwind as a cat for sure, but often made up for it when going to windward. I remember playing cat and mouse the whole way down the New South Wales coast with a 46 foot catamaran. Sail handling was a bit easier on the mono as all lines led to the cockpit which therefore made it easier to single hand. Another advantage of monos is that they are often better suited to cold weather as they are easier to heat. My mono also aged better due its higher quality, heavier construction and after three years I sold it for 15% more than what I bought it for (without having made any major upgrades) although that was partly due to good market timing. In a similar amount of time the Lavezzi lost 20% of its value. By the way, you failed to mention that catamarans can't carry much weight without significant and even dangerous performance degradation. I strongly disagree with your claim that catamarans are much, much better than monohulls on everything except price. Each has their pros and cons. By the way I have done many thousands of Bluewater and coastal miles over 20 years.

@jkutyna

10 ай бұрын

Don't forget that about 15-25% of marinas around the world will not allow your catamaran to berth there. Many don't have the specialized facilities to pluck you out of the water due to the extreme beam of said boats.

@Capt.sierra

9 ай бұрын

Yes yes and yes 👍🏼

@alexshyshkov8585

8 ай бұрын

This comment is actually more educational than the video itself. Thank you.

@number1genoa

8 ай бұрын

​@@alexshyshkov8585I totally agree

@number1genoa

8 ай бұрын

Your analysis is far more nuanced and representative of the pros and cons than the oversimplified analysis presented in this video. The ad hominem attacks on sailing Uma et-al is unnecessary too.

What a joker. Clearly out to trigger with an I AM the science! 😅😅😅

So I'm confused. What's your opinion on Lady K Sailing? 🤣

you sail and have a KZread channel. You might be be a KZread Sailor

My only beef with cruising cats is that they are motorsailers. At least to date I have never seen anyone tack a cat through a narrow cut, or sail up to a mooring. I only see them sailing on easy reaches in ideal conditions. OK fine if that's what you like, but to me the art of sailing is working toward your destination in all kinds of conditions, using only the wind and occasionally the currents.

@grancitodos7318

10 ай бұрын

If you like cruising, cats are great, some sail really well and will piss all over a mono, if you want to be a puritan sailor, buy an impractical mono race boat.

@chriswatts1412

10 ай бұрын

Cat are for people who want to live on a boat, but don't want to live on a boat. To me they look like space ships and they scream money and spoiled rich people.

@grancitodos7318

10 ай бұрын

@@chriswatts1412 You are quite sick and delusional.

@grancitodos7318

10 ай бұрын

@@MrRourk They are crap boats, get an education.

@MrRourk

10 ай бұрын

@@grancitodos7318 oh master of the oceans I believe you over the stats. Never mind how many successful ocean crossings and circumnavigations Wharram's have made. Your opinion is the best. Dude you are such an idiot.

I’ll take my heavy displacement long keel cutter rigged cruising monohull over a catamaran any day. My boat goes to weather better with less pounding than a cat. I can sail dead down wind easily and safely. The motion underway is more sea kindly on my monohull at most points of sail and sea conditions. I agree that monohull heel more than catamarans and the cats have more room with more comfortable living space. However, I prefer the sailing characteristics of a true blue water monohull and consider them to be safer in knock down strength storm conditions.

Watching KZread is for enjoyment,some sailing channels are enjoyable,some too technical so try to lighten up buddy !

@Key-wg6dn

7 ай бұрын

:)

I love heeling over , i love the foam rushing past the gunnels ,the pressure on the tiller the sound of something breaking below mono hulls rock and roll hell yeah!

@conradsenior5843

9 ай бұрын

Drawers sliding open and dumping everything? Hilarious.

@Capt.sierra

9 ай бұрын

That’s the way the cookie crumbles 👍🏼

😢 If true what you say; then Igor Stropnik, Laura Decker and so many other "old sailboat" and "sail small" owners are wrong. What you did now is False Dichotomy.

@animapulcra9205

10 ай бұрын

@@abcgang8048 He's been a nipper once and he teach what he has learned since. Buying a used boat works perfectly fine as long you follow the guidelines. YT'ers "Travel Sketch" bought a new Leopard45 and got burned. What you say is false dichotomy and don't constitute learning in any way or form.

What happens when you load a cat up . It sails like,, a turd

Awful... I found sailing community generally relaxed, happy and chilled. Most happily doing whatever they enjoy and don't mind if you enjoy something different. This video ... well, it's different. You managed to spit on everyone and everything while delivered zero content. Seriously, was there anything helpful, interesting or educational in there? (Besides your 200,000 miles, that's impressive.)

As a former airline captain, I liked having multiple engines turning. When I wasn’t flying someone else’s ship and I decided to buy and pay to fly my own airplane, I bought a single….

In spite of what you say I would be willing to bet that in very heavy seas and extremely strong wind you would much rather be in a monohull. They are much easier to control in those situations. The catamaran has to be very carefully attended to in survival situations. You can heave-to in a monohull if you have enough sea-room and you will be much safer.

i think of all the cool sailors out there on simple plastic boats...like sam holmes...or sailing maya...or salty dog...even tritea, who only started a few years ago, learned to sail and recondition his very simple CHEAP alberg 30 that’s now in new zealand by way of hawaii... the only cat channels i know are boring snobs who just sit in the cockpit and talk about what they’re eating while the fancy boat motors itself on autopilot.

@robinbennett5994

10 ай бұрын

I'd like to recommend Wilding Sailing. I don't know how far he'll go, but it's a wild ride! kzread.info/dron/cNSILJyC5MpNuDUIPq6W8Q.html

Apparently all these "YT Sailors" are chasing the same YT buck you're chasing. Maybe that's where your beef really is! 🤔

mono, better for me anyways, fits my budget, fits my long term maintenance, one hull, one motor etc.

That’s funny bc I was suggested this channel a few days after I started watching Lady K. He does have a crap boat that almost sunk and hasn’t been back on a trip since. But I still like him and will still watch

I myself prefer sailing a monohull. As a retired professional sailor, I prefer and enjoy the way a monohull sails over a square block.

So, from what I am hearing from you is, unless your at least a 6 figure a year income earner sailing is not for you. What I am getting from this video is that you believe in keeping the sailing community clean and free of the low income rif-raf and we should confine ourselves to the fresh water Sunfish sailing dinghies and the “Real Sailing” left to those who can really afford it. Yeah! I think I’ll just continue listening to Lady K Sailing where I can at least get “your” information without the condescending flair that seems to reverberates in your video. Thank you Lady K for being welcoming to all sailors and future sailors such as myself.

@ChasingLatitudes

10 ай бұрын

Good, go watch him, no one here needs ya

@davidwalker2781

2 ай бұрын

As He Asks Us For Our Money $ to give him cash.!! BAhaha. What a joker.

@ahoneyman

Ай бұрын

Sailing the islands is a $10,000 a year hobby. A $100,000 salary is not enough to support that.

@affalada6868

3 күн бұрын

​@ChasingLatitudes your going places with your additude

@ahoneyman

2 күн бұрын

@@affalada6868 The guy isn't wrong. A $30,000 boat is going to need $30,000 in upgrades before it's ready to live aboard. Why not spend the $60-70k up front for a newer boat with better space utilization?

Sailed around the world with my wife on a 46ft monohull. We all want a Catt at anchor - doesnt roll and better space for living. On an offshore passage the monohull wins hands down sails better and much more seaworthy. In the marina - monohull wins on cost. If money is plentiful and your not doing many miles a Cat. Price sensitive and sailing lots of ocean a Cat. Doing a surf trip in Indo - A Cat wont roll like a pig at anchor. Atoll cruising in the Pacific a Cat gets you tucked in to places a monohull cant reach. Getting smashed by a tsunami- thank god i have anchored deep with my monohull. There is no single answer, a delivery skipper does not have a fully rounded outlook.

I think you left out the biggest con for cats, their lack of windward performance. They may be fine if you spend a lot of time in the trade winds, or if you spend a lot of time on anchor or in marinas. However, if you want to do more challenging sailing, say chasing some higher latitudes in a blow, I’d recommend a good old fashioned monohull, preferably one that doesn’t have a flat bottom, open transom or bluff bow. I like boats that can point high, track well and cut through waves rather than pound on top. But that’s my kind of sailing, and to each their own.

@Capt.sierra

8 ай бұрын

And with a cat , good lock trying to find a sleep in a marina $$$

@eloynogueira

2 ай бұрын

Wise observations

Swell for modest seas, warm shallow water, A deadly joke in serious conditions.

I think you are a little harsh on UMA they know they bought a shitty old boat and clearly they are spending a lot of time fixing it. Free range sailing and millennial falcon are other examples. They make good content though and are entertaining to watch. Interested to see how sailing ruby rose goes with their brand new cat. You’d think there won’t be much to say if everything just works.

@Verdigris.

10 ай бұрын

@@abcgang8048 I don’t think I understand your point. Are you saying they are bad sailors or bad KZreadrs because they have old boats with problems?

@DennisRobertson-xs7ym

16 күн бұрын

So far Ruby Rose's Channel has been mostly complaints about how rough they have it.. That's sad too.. They used to be one of the better channels to watch.

@Verdigris.

15 күн бұрын

@@DennisRobertson-xs7ym must say I haven’t been watching recently. As entertainment I don’t really want to experience the bad parts, but as reality I can understand it’s tough to live as they do and have some sympathy.

Nothing better than a good long heel. Love it.

I am not a fan of Catamaran. I sailed on them but I still prefer monohulls 🤷‍♂️

It was my understanding that slips and haul out for monohulls are generally more affordable

@4unkb0y

10 ай бұрын

not only is berthing space more affordable, but it's also a question of availability. Turn up late in a cat after everyone else is in for the day, & there may simply be no "superwide" spaces available for you, especially in older &/or smaller marinas. Slips wide enough for cruising cats in marinas that haven't been refitted since the "cat craze" are usually designed for superyachts in the deepest part of the harbor, & are priced accordingly.

@grancitodos7318

10 ай бұрын

@@4unkb0y If you have a cruising cat, you should be cruising, not condo living at a marina.

@4unkb0y

10 ай бұрын

uh @@grancitodos7318 , even while cruising, docking in marinas is a thing that we do...

@jkutyna

10 ай бұрын

@@grancitodos7318 Nice thought but what is your plan when you are in French Polynesia and hurricane season is only 45 days away?

@grancitodos7318

10 ай бұрын

@@jkutyna Wow, think, on a catamaran with, half a brain, you will be out of the hurricane area. I was in New Caledonia, on a catamaran, when a late hurricane was arriving, and like any person with half a brain, took it away from other boats, to a sheltered area, and put down tandem anchors.

I started to get what you were saying about how some channels don't have much sailing experience, so their advice isn't that great. But, your video is a commercial for your services, and you put other down to make yourself look better. That's not a real great way to get customers and viewers in my mind. The good part of what the less experienced channels do is show experiences of being on the water - at the minimum, they are out there doing something - which is more than I'm doing in my land locked office. That is why many of us watch their channels, to at least see others doing what we want to be doing even if they don't have 200,000 miles of experience.

I don’t trust a boat that is more stable upside down then right side up.

@Verdigris.

10 ай бұрын

Same could be said for a lot of these bolt on keel mono hulls. Trust them?

@dancarter482

10 ай бұрын

_THAN_ FFS.!

@SVPearler

10 ай бұрын

Have to get there first, mono will win that race.

@sail4life

10 ай бұрын

The main difference is the ultimate resting place of a multi-hull on the ocean is floating upside down on the surface, where it makes a great life-raft. The ultimate resting place of a mono-hull is sitting upright on the bottom, where it makes a great fish farm...

Your fenders are out

Here is our experience with cats vs mono. We are a monohull sailing youtube channel....hopefully not one of the ones Chris was talking about in this video lol. We just helped a friend sail his new catamaran across the gulf of mexico....yes. the cat was roomier, faster, nicer, newer, more comfortable, has more storage, and on and on....BUT, the ease of sailing a cat just wasnt there. The sails are not easy to deploy or bring down, everything is far away from the helm, and a cat is easier to go overboard than on a monohull. If one wants to sail a cat solo, good luck with that....but then again, why have a cat if youre solo? We are guilty of being "part time cruisers" (last year we were on the boat for a year, but going forward, we cruise Fall-Spring, and put in storage for hurricane season). The cost for the additional comforts, in our opinion is not worth it. If money were no object, then yes, a cat, but money is an object, so we will "suffer" with our monohull.

@SailingPauHana

10 ай бұрын

@@makisp.1428 we definitely do not want to live on a boat 100% of the time. If we did, we would go the cat route, but even then, you just want to feel safe from weather and other factors.....and we get that from being on terra firma

@TomBalazs

10 ай бұрын

Sailing a multi-hull solo? Yes, that could be a challenge. Do a search on the experienced sailor Donald Lawson (still missing) and his racing trimaran "Defiant" (found capsized).

@SailingPauHana

10 ай бұрын

@@TomBalazs I would never sail a multi-hull solo, but from my limited time on a cat, I know it's difficult to handle the boat alone. I can easily sail my 41 foot mono alone.

@grancitodos7318

10 ай бұрын

@@TomBalazs Trimarans got a bad reputation decades ago, you can't compare them to modern well made catamarans.

I sailed out of Dana Point for a couple of years, but the farthest I got was Catalina Island; now in the winter of my life I watched many KZread sailors, and vicariously enjoyed the bikinis and the foreign ports; the refits, not so much. Two months ago, realizing I was watching home travelogues instead of real sailing videos i unsubscribed to almost all of them. This video was truly refreshing.

One of my problems with multihulls is that they are interiorly ugly. The vast majority of interiors look like Cheap motel, contractor grade, square cornered blond cabinetry. They look like the Ikea decorated urban apartment one was trying to escape by becoming nautical. Look at the interiors of the Hylas 49s, 54s and 56s. Those are yachts to sail, enjoy and be proud of (not to be confused with the ugly contractor grade boats the brand became after Hylas sold out to tasteless millennials). So, warmth, charm, romantically nautical with righting ability if capsized as opposed to a double the cost, we need more crew, apartment on water of the contemporary catamaran. And, I notice that CL has not mentioned tri-hulls, that if you are going multihull, that is the way to go.

@thylacine1962

9 ай бұрын

Yes, agreed. Hylas & Island Packet. Love em.

Interesting film. I think it really depends on the type of sailing you intended to do. Majority of time at anchor or on a mooring, I can definitely see the attraction of a Cat. If you are looking to circumnavigate or make extended passages, I would much prefer a monohull. Here in the UK we generally need make reasonably long and sometimes uncomfortable passages to get anywhere warm! If we choose to stay at home, heavy weather is never far away. So in Northern Europe we tend to gravitate towards monohulls as our boat of choice. If I were on the East coast of the USA looking to make the occasional trip to the Caribbean, I would certainly see the attraction of a Multi hull. For transparency, we own a Hallberg Rassey 46 which gets us across oceans comfortably and safely. It’s also a civilised space to live in when we arrive.

I'm a Navy Vet with minimal sailing experience. I spent 3000 on my Hunter 33, I am so glad I went this route. I'm repairing and learning a ton. I think my cheap hunter is perfect for me learning and testing the waters. #mattdv

Wow, Ive sailed singlehanded halfway around the World on a very slow mono hull. Ive lived aboard for 10 years and am planning to cross the second half of the planet starting with the Indian Ocean next year. Cant afford a Cat and if I did it would have probably killed me by now. Sometimes you have to go with what love got and be dammed. Not a joke.

@ChasingLatitudes

6 ай бұрын

You're a legend sir, I'm a fan

@AdventuresofanoldSeadog

6 ай бұрын

Thank you. Cheersnbeers. @@ChasingLatitudes

while the narator has some good points on mono hulls it comes down to personal preference, personaly i will take that old fixerupper because if you get knocked down and role ods are your coming back up the right way again not so sure about these new wide assed bouts and as for a cat? if you get caught out in a big storm and a wave roles it, your done. I used to race 20ft catemerans and at least one time a year i would push it to hard and end up upside down, great fun though. 😂

Ocean crossing on a small monohull is also more common. Outside of wharram catamarans no one is crossing the atlantic or pacific in a 35' cat but plenty of solo sailors taking off from Port Townsend near me in $50k all in monohulls in the 28-36' range to hawaii or fiji. Often times the boats get left there and they fly back but a one way adventure is still an adventure. Looking to do that with a production cat and it's more like $300-400k and that's too much boat to single hand.

Monohulls are also (much) more beautiful and elegant

I’ll take one of those old boats over those chunks of junk with twin helms and flimsy spade rudders , any day

@robertlong6642

10 ай бұрын

@@abcgang8048 maybe so, but remember 2 things, we all derive our joy from different things in different ways. And at least I won’t be worrying about knocking off my keel or rudder, because if I get the money together to buy a boat, it’ll either be a full keel or long keel with a skeg hung rudder. And if that kind of boat gives me peace of mind, and I’m happy with it, nobody has any right to shit on my happiness. If the other kind of boat makes others happy, I’m happy for them.

@robertlong6642

10 ай бұрын

@@abcgang8048 that’s why you make sure you get a lead keel, AND we both know if that boat had been properly cared for, the water intrusion problem could’ve been caught and fixed long before that became an issue

@robertlong6642

10 ай бұрын

@@abcgang8048 good for him , I’m happy for anyone who’s happy with one of those boats. But nobody has the right to condemn anyone else’s choice of boat. If that person is happy, let them be happy. I rarely agree with most people about a variety of things, but if what they’re doing isn’t adversely affecting anyone else, nobody has a right to say they’re choices we’re wrong

@robertlong6642

10 ай бұрын

@@abcgang8048 and I understand that concept, but I’ve seen entirely too many videos of these newer boats sand they have problems too, some the same and some different. And to me, those extra wide cockpits and interiors are great looking and roomy for living, but impractical for sailing as you’ll get tossed around in rough weather worse than an older narrower boat. And there are far too many horror stories about keels falling off or hard impacts causing major structural damage, and spade rudders getting knocked off, for me to put any faith or confidence in that design

@andyedison2416

10 ай бұрын

Now also have to content with the Orca’s off Spain ripping of those rudders and sinking vessels 😮

Lady K dude convinced his girl they could be you tube sailors on his Hughes 35, with the broken speed transducer that he ignored; They were taking heavy chop off the bow and the ocean came pouring in through the busted through hull, which is the best time to find out your bilge pump doesn't work. Luckily, a passing cruiser came by with a bilge pump and baled them out - literally. He almost sunk his boat by being totally unprepared for an emergency underway, IMO he shouldn't be giving advice to anyone. Candice sensibly left him alone on the boat and returned to dry land.

@ChasingLatitudes

10 ай бұрын

Couldn't agree more

Friendly advice. It’s not a good look to hate on others because it shows your pettiness, weakness and insecurities. Be bigger than that and people with just know it without it even being said.

Interesting point of view. I have a, shall we say, limited budget. That means shopping monohulls. I 've had one on the SF Bay & I always return to the Gemini as my choice of boats in moments of clarity. Thank you Chris, I feel better about that choice now.

100% agree with the "lady K sailing" being a yutz.

@MikeB-gf6dj

10 ай бұрын

I Second that, saw one , my first last night thanks to YT recommendation, Sub'd , got 2 minutes into the next this evening, and thought Who is this guy? .. nah that aint right. Unsub'd and departed. Then blow me down YT offer me up this channel, heard it for what it 'really' is, Laughed at the Uma comments, agreed with them too. Picked up that subscription here instead. Yes I watch YT Sailors, and too I've floated my way across a good many of the 7 seas on ocean going vessels - happen to be of the non-sailboat variety for the most, but crewed* on one or two of them too just for some variety also around Southern England & Vanuatu too. Variety the spice of life they say. Think I'll stick around. Mono or Cat no matter to me, if it's sails and the Mainsail or Spinnaker are used as the only form of power - that's sailing right there. I'm in, or I'm watching in my lounge chair - got to be able to enjoy the best of both worlds eh. 🇳🇿 😎 Fair winds .. edit. crewed, not crew.

Shots fired... 😆

@ChasingLatitudes

10 ай бұрын

😂😂

@ChasingLatitudes

10 ай бұрын

@user-hn1by6sz7z that's odd, wonder why I had just under a million views last month and he had 500k ?

@ChasingLatitudes

10 ай бұрын

@@pred7949 by blabks you mean facts

@ChasingLatitudes

10 ай бұрын

@mikev3518 I don't delete comments, I don't care at all what little fan boys of that trash channel say, others may report your comments and youtube may remove them but I don't give a fk

Monohull, and you forgot one of the biggest pluses: a monohull, a proper sea boat, doesn’t tend to stay upside down, like a catamaran does, if you get rolled in heavy waves. They don’t have escape hatches on the bottom of monohulls, because they don’t need them. Also, while catamarans reach quickly, monohulls are better on the wind.

love you bruh! love when you pull the gloves off.

Catamarans aren’t self righting. I’d put that argument up against anything negative about a monohull.

@eloynogueira

2 ай бұрын

@@markthomasson5077 kkkkkkkkkkk I love jokes hahaha thank you for this hahaha

Back when started watching you were on the 'no cats' rant

I really like Wind Hippy and the Old Sea Dog as far as KZread sailing channels go. They seem about as real as it gets when it comes to sailing. All the others seem more about eye candy than anything else. Oh! I've got to add, I like my monohull (FY 39 PH) then again, I'm a cheapskate lol! There's also no way I'm going to put an arch on it. It would run the boat's esthetic. So, I'll agree there.

My personal interest does not lay in living on a boat, where a decent sized cat offers a lot. Whether multi or mono, i would be a “few days” sailor who happens to be an old g, so a head rather than a bucket is preferred. I like the diversity of boats you’ve reviewed, especially the oceanis 30.1 which i may be able to afford in a year or two, if health stays good. I love the newness because at my age, limiting the maintenance would be convenient and smart. No family, no parties, a small traveler for basically a couple around the med (retiring to spain) for coastal towns exploring. Pack it up, bring it home, wash the bottom, easypeazie but still i’m not young. Maybe after a “learning” sailboat and because i’m old, i’ll decide to just fly, train, drive, bus, my way around europe. But really, sailing seems so special.

I gotta go with a Catamaran .. Reason being... its all personal preference and each person's individual opinions and needs/situation.

First time watching this channel and can't say i disagree with the title. Very, very few sailing channels on YT. During COVID they were a welcome distraction, but with that behind us it was time to go sailing and we put another 5,000nm under the keel getting our boat to SE Asia. Lots of the sailors there have met the YT personalities and in their normal sailor way are critical of what they do or more particularly what they don't do. I assume trying to put out content every week consumes more of their time than does sailing. At the same time many of the young generation have started families and captured the hearts and minds of a new audience. Me, l like sailing (and a bit of boat related maintenance), nothing more nothing less. Because i like sailing, I like the wind on my face as the boat heels over, which monhulls do.Cats have their place and the folk that love them, love them. As one monohull circumnavigator said of his new cat. It was simply the best destination boat he had ever owned. We sailed on a friends cat in Indonesia for a month. Stopped raising the sails after a week as there wasnt wasn't enough wind. We have 'sailed' the same area with our monohull in 5 to 7 knots of breeze very successfully. As to the channels that are a joke - i stopped watching a long time ago.

@conradsenior5843

9 ай бұрын

Indonesia has notoriously light winds.

That foresail flapping on the stock footage boat is just infuriating 😂

To everyone freaking out: “Life is pain, Highness. Anyone who says differently is selling something.” So says the Dread Pirate Roberts!!

@nodogrunner

10 ай бұрын

@@abcgang8048 Fair.

@robinbennett5994

10 ай бұрын

Inconceivable!

Nice video clips. Did you shoot any of them? Didn't think so. I've crossed the Pacific, so am I allowed to have an opinion?

@ChasingLatitudes

10 ай бұрын

Yup I sure did, 99% I shot, Thanks for feeding the algorithm moron

I appreciate that you know what you are doing, however, I take issue with most "cruising" catamarans and certainly anything under about 40'. My parents owned the 47', 27ton Bristol Channel Pilot Cutter "Cariad" built in 1904, and she was my first home aged 3 weeks, 60 years ago. After moving to Darwin, Australia I sailed dinghies and then "off the beach" catamarans. My first catamaran was the locally designed plywood "Arrow". Officially they had one trapeze but as both my mate and I were quite slight we sometimes fitted a second. I built another "Arrow" and then had a series of "skiffs" (the less said the better). Aged 19 I was offered a Tornado to sail which I did with a 13 year old girl for crew (she had her own catamaran too). We had 2 trapezes and needed them. In Darwin the breeze in the morning is from the SE and up to about 20kn and gusting. In the afternoons the sea breeze from the NW would be steadier and generally 10 - 12kn, gusting 15. On more than one occasion we did more than 20kn. Sometimes when the wind had moderated to around 10kn I would sail it one up - on trapeze. I had a 10' tiller extension made from electrical conduit with a dowel centre to add stiffness! Going upwind with one hull kissing the water I could steer with the friction between my finger and the tiller extension. It was magic! Shortly after this time my father having sold a 27' lump of steel (actually quite a pretty boat but designed in plywood) he built a Seawind 24. This was 24' and had 16' beam. It had 2 single berths in each hull and a trampoline between the hulls. It would have sailed quite well if it had had a rotating mast but the "monohull" style rig "pumped" and eventually broke. However, just before it did .... we were doing over 16kn. How much more, who knows because the log only went that far. Somewhere around this I crewed on a Camper & Nicholson 53 on a delivery voyage from Darwin to US West Coast, except we only got as far as Port Moresby. Beautiful boat, lovely to sail, skipper was a complete wanker. Would have been my worst experience on a boat except less than 2 months later I had 3 weeks on a prawn trawler. My best experiences, sailing on a brigantine in the Whitsundays as "engineer" and "mate" for 6 months (was at that time a mechanic but I didn't have any marine qualifications) and as a sailing instructor in Greece for about the same time a couple of years later. (My liver disagrees). I don't have years of offshore experience. I've sailed dinghies, off the beach cats, raced cruising yachts and spent a lifetime around boats. I currently live aboard a Westerly Storm 33 which I bought online while I was working offshore in Nigeria. I've spent far more time on construction vessels and barges than sailing offshore. While I haven't done much about getting a marine qualification I did end up doing an engineering degree as a naval architect. But I digress, back to catamarans. I think the latest hydro-foiling catamarans and trimarans are amazing pieces of engineering and given the opportunity to go for a sail on one I'd jump at the chance but there is no way I'd sail one around the world. I don't want to cut my toothbrush in half or live on rehydrated rations. Cats and Tris do not carry weight well unless they are seriously big. Most cats suffer from underdeck slamming and while monohulls may pitch in a seaway the quartering roll of a cruising cat is awful. I've even been on the ~100m Incat ferry across Bass Strait and that was just as bad in 3 - 4m seas. I've been on a very large "off the beach" style catamaran that did trips out of Cairns. I forget the exact dimensions but I think around 80' x 40'. I took the helm for a while and we were doing well over 20kn in about 15kn true but it did not have much in the way of a cabin. Or at least once you get to that size the cabin appears modest. There was also a 105' "But cruising cat based in the Whitsundays for a while (I'm going back 30 years for both of these). As well as sailing on the brigantine in the Whitsundays I have chartered a Beneteau 35s5 back in 1991 with 2 other couples and had a great 10 days. In 2002 I chartered a Seawind 35, which from looking at the photos of the Gemini 35 was a very similar design. It was awful to sail. There were 2 couples and 2 babies, my daughter was 8 months old and my friend's son was 8 weeks! My friend and I had both raced extensively both together and separately and we agreed it was a pig. I looked up the spec for the Gemini 35 and it wasn't impressive. It may be fine on smooth water but I wouldn't want to be crossing rough water in it. I understand the appeal of catamarans for living aboard and going from marina to marina in shallow water. I think if I were to forgo a monohull (and I had a lot more money than I currently have) I'd go the trimaran route. But whether cat or tri you still need to be frugal. Filling every space with junk is going to slow you down and put more strain on the boat. Anyway my 2c worth, have a good day.

@ChasingLatitudes

10 ай бұрын

Thank you

You are the man! I enjoy watching your video.

I sail with a 40 year old 2hp suzuki outboard that always fails. That has made me a great sailor. Every time we cross the Pamlico, I wonder why all the other sailboats including the big cats are motoring.

Cats tend to have to tack more and generally don’t sail as close to wind as monos (depending on the vessel) Old mono - Cherubini 44 - 48 pretty quick - shoal draft not very roomy New-Er monohull, Honeslty I’d probably opt for something like a POGO or Or a Jboat or Something Steven& Linda Dashew designed. Multihull - if I had my druthers and the bank account Shuttleworth or SIG45. Or a Gunboat It’s about spending the least amount of time getting to your destination. In terms of food supplies if you eat like a racer (get freeze dried) instead you’ll save lots of weight and you won’t gain too much weight either. Costco tends to have lots of crap food that has mostly sugar in it. 👎

What are your thoughts on a trimaran? are they pretty much like a mono hull when it comes to storage but more comfortable than a mono hull? They pretty much have the same disadvantages of a catamaran when it comes to slips and docking. And no I am not a sailor nor do I have a boat. Just curious about your thoughts.

To live on full time as a couple, especially in the Caribbean? Snap Cat. And to be honest, a moter cat, like an Aquila 42. Main pros of moter over sail cat are more deck space, higher top speed, and shallower draft.

Monohulls can carry more stuff than catamarans without hurting performance. Monohulls allow you to feel the "glory" of sailing. Monohulls are cheaper and easier to find dockage. As you said, monohulls "heel" such that everything has to be properly stowed or it will be all over the place. Monohulls are generally deeper draft, which can be a negative. Monohulls rock and bob around at anchor. Catamarans are much more stable, but have an awkward motion that is far from "glorious" the way monohull motion is. Catamarans take the "edge" off sailing such that heavier weather doesn't feel like heavy weather. When I sail my catamaran, I rarely drive because it is just no fun at all. When I sail my monohull, I do use the autopilot, but I also enjoy driving because it is glorious. Catamarans are shallower draft, sit better at anchor and are much more comfortable. Having everything on one level is quite convenient. With my monohull, if I have the air conditioning on, I have to remove the boards just to go on deck and put them back in whereas with my catamaran, I open the door, walk out, and then close the door. My catamaran is a voyager while my monohull is wonderful to go for a sail. I have never really taken my catamaran out "for a sail." We take it out to go somewhere. Yes, monohulls point higher and tack easier. But, if i am cruising, I can just wait until the wind is favorable. When it is favorable to a catamaran, being on the beam or a little aft of the beam, the catamaran is a sailing machine. My catamaran (Leopard 47) does encounter a good slap every now and then which was pretty hard for me to get used to as a monohull sailor. When sailing, I am always listening for things that don't sound right. A bridge deck slap on a catamaran sure doesn't sound right. It feels like something is seriously wrong, when really it is not.

Have you seen the Dragonfly 32? It's a trimaran that electronically pulls in its outrigger hulls to fit in a normal size slip. What do you think of trimarans in general?

We love our 43ft cat. Its no show piece, its 20 odd years old. Needs work, like all boats. It was cheap compaired to most that was on the market at the time. I have done most of the work that is needed myself or had a hand in it. Not a fan of heeling but thats just us. We dont suffer to much hobby horsing due to our thin hulls. We sailed next to what looked to be a seawind, that thing was up and down like hell. Speed, fastest I have done is 17 surfing, champagne sailing 13. Its leisurely. Can get into shallow more protected areas. It also runs outboards, a lot less maintenance, but if I need to I can punch 9 knots at full throttle. Turns on itself in marinas. One bloke though I had bow thrusters. Increased carrying capacity by going to Lithium batteries, we are light anyway. I can load it up with about a ton and a half with our stuff, food, extra fuel and water. I do distribute the weight about. We could a do a few months without re provisioning. Water maker helps that too.

I love the "turd polishing" content of Sailing Uma. Is great DIY content and fit them perfectly. They are architects an former house renovators.

I am sure Wave-Rover is in your 1% as well as NBJS Erik the Viking. Wave Rover did a Atlantic circuit from Canada on a Contessa 26 purchased and refurbished for @12k he knows what the heck he’s doing. Now he’s ready to embark on a Circumnavigation in a 20’ boat he built and designed himself for under 20k the Wave Rover 650 which I would put up to anything currently produced for Solo sailing. Roger Taylor (not a KZreadr per say) did crazy Arctic 50-70 day non-stop voyages with @20’ refurbished trailer sailors both less than $15000 invested.

@tomwaite4594

10 ай бұрын

Alan is the real deal as is Kevin Boothby ....

@borys2767

10 ай бұрын

Wave Rover was boring, lost the plot. Eric well he has done some pretty serious trips in northern weather but all the same trips over and over......boring. Seems to be in for the patreon paypal money now. JMO

This was a surprising video. Not sure what to think.

@drew6116

10 ай бұрын

This fellow thinks he's holier than thou. Bunch of crap if you ask me.

It's interesting your comments about monohull versus catamaran. From your earlier videos I would have thought you prefer the mono hulls. I'm not an armchair sailor but I'm not a blue water one either. My experience of owning a boat is just one, a Pearson 27 since 2020. I prefer the look of the monohull, but I have to agree that a good catamaran would have a lot more space. I think the next boat will likely be a 35 to 40 ft monohull. The issues of docking and hauling in a catamaran definitely give me pause. A comment about Sailing Uma. That was the second channel we watched and are still watching. I agree their boat was a lot more work than I would have wanted to do, although I found the projects interesting and a good opportunity to learn some things and get ideas. I think some of the refits along the way reflect that they had more of a budget and experience to take on different projects. The current big refit is not something I would have wanted to do but I can understand some of their reasons why they wanted to do that. They also have the luxury of time since this is what they do. We also find the two of them down to earth and pretty authentic. I also appreciate your candor about projects. I think it's better for somebody to get a boat that they can start sailing right away and get experience and let them do some projects along the way. I don't think I would ever do a full-time liveaboard but would like to get a larger boat so I can do more than 2 week cruising. That might have to wait until I'm not working unless I can become a famous KZreadr giving out bad sailing advice! Or maybe I'll just try to be my authentic self.

I'm a Mono in Queensland Aus, got a Benny Oceanis 1994, and don't mind refreshing a good Yacht. Very comfortable for extended passages with the Mrs.

Why so brutal my man 😂. I love this channel.

@ChasingLatitudes

10 ай бұрын

I love you buddy

I think the traditional boat have a great hull, they making the boat using a solid wood & if you think the hull is not strong enough, you can add some steel plate on it as a cover. The modern one is using plywood & glue.

I actually like my Garbage hobbyhorsing old leaky teaky classic Hans Christian 38. When I cash up I will consider a CAT. Thanks for the Lady K channel recommendation. Subscribed to him. He may be a newby and give shitty advice (in your opinion) but seems like a decent person and from what Ive seen entertatining content.

Tell us how you really feel. 😂 Great content. 2 Questions: Is it possible to learn to sail as a volunteer crew member? 2. I'm looking at the 2015 Leopard 44. There seem to be different opinions on swamping due to the forward cockpit. Is this a boat that you think is safe for transatlantic crossings? Thanks for reading. Stay snarky😉

@robinbennett5994

10 ай бұрын

Yes, it's definitely possible to learn to sail as a volunteer crew. You can do your own navigation and passage planning alongside the skipper, and you'll be doing all the other jobs. Probably the one thing you won't do is practice bringing someone else's expensive boat into the dock - but you'll be involved in the process and no doubt see ways it can go wrong. The difference is that a course will have a syllabus, so you're less likely to miss an important topic - but you can always buy a handbook and check what you've missed.

@MikeB-gf6dj

10 ай бұрын

I learnt to sail as a volunteer crew. In fact I was encouraged to do so by the then owner looking for new crew. Certainly a good starting point.

Spot on, Skipper ..... But for rough seas and upwind sailing.... them cats are terrifying and useless !!

@Xocolatben

10 ай бұрын

Cat Great Circle ...

Mono while i still young and poor, cat when wife starts getting grumpy and wants to quit the sailing life!

Pretty spot on with loads of the new sailors on KZread. They give out advice that they have zero experience with. It’s dangerous. I’m surprised that none have died as yet to be fair.

I motor sailed a cat most of the way from Turkey to the Carribean. I bought a mono this time around as I like to sail. The performance of your average mono is far greater than your average production cat. I also moved my dingy from the foredeck to davits with 1400 watts of solar. My boat goes forward and the dingy up there blocks my view far more than a dingy on davits although it does make it harder to fish.

Hi Chris. Like you I have worked at sea for 20 years all over the world. So we would fall into what I would call professional Seamen. Our friend over lady K is not the same. He falls into a category that I would call an occasional seaman. Rather than getting wound up about him and some of the others, turn the table around and offer to help them, educate them a little. Have you thought about sending one of your t-shirts over to the chap @ lady K ..Be nice..break the ice.

@shoutatthesky

10 ай бұрын

That would be a far better approach!

Glad I just sold my monohull after 13 years of working on it! You have spot on points!

James Spader. Epic rendition

Opinions are like assholes everyone has one.

Catamaran is king for sure. No question.

@ChasingLatitudes

10 ай бұрын

Yup

I own a Mono hull out 7200 nm on her, she has a wing keel I have had rouge waves break at my second set of spreaders. Sailed 20 years, I also have my 6 pack, would love to retire with a 59 foot Hylas. So if I was in the Carribian all the time living on the boat cat would be ok. Heeling, is fine, if your rigged for it, so give me the 2013 Hylas 59 , take that in the seas that I sail all the time. My wife does not like Cats, at anchor sure but we sail well together and have sailed 60 foot boats by ourselves . We only stay full time for summers. If you get knocked down in a mono, most of the time you did not break anything, have been aboard many Cats that shown hard rig damage, in 5 years of the same sailing that I do. Up here off the coast of Long Island New York, and buzzards bay, I am sure With the proper equipment and gear crew watches etc, but monos are more forgiving. I think that the foil technology on the SailGP is going to trickle down in 5 years I think foiling will be introduced and wings also. The Maintenance alone is also double, the pulling the boat out storage in the winter, no sorry cannot afford a Cat. By the way in the 80’s I used to race I was on the USA team for the liberty cup race in NYC, also did a bunch of Newport to Bermuda races, in the 80’s , and in my teens used to race hobbie cats in Daytona, if you are 25 in that sport you are old. My sons Summers on Starlight made one a LTCMDR Navy Test Pilot the other a CEO of the security firm that handles the Dallas Cowboys. All done on a Mono. Fact is allot of places my 35 foot wing keel sloop got into would not fit a cat. No question they have tons of room, and they have their pluses our friends had a Lagoon 380 but in 4 years he had too sell it was just too expensive for his family as well as mine at the time. My Starlight cost me 15k a year to have a slip sail, store etc. we would take the month of August off, and do a trip from Bangor Maine too the Cape in NC. The practical side. What do you own, you have kids and a job etc. from 1995- 2006 put 7200nm of logged summer sailing up and down the coast. Keeping my family safe and educating my sons. I think the main thing is too be able to have the time to go. As far as other KZreadrs there is Brian on Delos, and Collen on Parley. And I can Identify with Brian being an EE and software engineer, I also Love the humility they remind me of my sons. Oh and by seven my sons both knew how too dead reckoning and how too use a sextant, we did not have a chart plotter etc, we have charts and pencils and a watch. Sure doing a refit now installing a ne B&G new radar etc. yup, in the beginning no GPS etc, had some LoranC but nope taught my boys the right way. Most of the sailors out there will be in deer do do if they are ever hit by lightning in the middle of a passage. By the way a ton of great Monohulls on the hard just need some elbow grease especially in Annapolis.

@ChasingLatitudes

10 ай бұрын

Agree

@ballomni

10 ай бұрын

@@ChasingLatitudes something I hav not seen and should be incorporated in all boats is a seawater strainer and fresh water tee for layup or flush in the heads and, Fresh water Rinse layup and Emergency Bilge Pump. On Starlight 1989 Beneteau Oceanis 350 has a Volvo Penta engine M2003 28hp anyway I was the second owner, so after I purchased the boat I was doing the shakedown cruise and ran the engine for about an hour and the overheated alarm went off , could not find a problem, cutting too the chase lots of growth and calcification of the tubes in the heat exchanger. Had too take the entire unit clean it and put it back, never wanted to do that again figured was not the use rather the extended, layup with saltwater, also the corrosion factor of the elbow, had to replace that. So as a solution I cam up with this manifold I constructed with brass and bronze fittings and ball valves for each connection, from the thru hull , to the manifold, ball on the thru hull and on the manifold did the same at the on end valve to the sea strainer to the engine, next thru hull, pressure fresh water, and at the other end again valve to a run to the bilge. This allows me to turn on the fresh water, backwash the thru hull, then shutoff and run the engine for 2 minutes on fresh water before shutting down the engine for the night or an extended time. It also in the final configuration allows me to bring to bear as an emergency pump, on my main bilge the engine, if there is a major leak in the boat that bilge pumps cannot handle for whatever reason, (lightning strikes) etc. I often use the fresh water system when she is on the hard, and I need to run the engine, like changing oil, etc. I have 100 gallons of water on Starlight, you should see the looks I get in the yard with no hose, on the hard, yet engine running and water from the exhaust and prop shaft running out. In 20 years have not had any overheating issues or had to deal with the heat exchanger or the elbow, which is notorious on Volvos.. This should be on all sailboats Cats etc.

Had a mono, have a cat, will switch back to mono. Just sayin.

Two concepts, ballast ratio, and self righting. roll over a multi-hull game over. Very hard to sink a stout, well ballasted monohull, in the open ocean. You can jury rig a dis-masted or rudderless mono, and keep sailing, fill it half full of water, and still save it. maybe you can live inside or on top of your capsized multi, but you can NOT sail it anymore. let 60 feet of green water smash or pitch pole your multi, and you are one dead "expert" - formerly with too much money, after you foolishly wandered away from the tropical "milk run" into high latitude's with your floating veranda..

Try this. Use the bare essentials model. A vessel the size of 20 feet. I can name many able circumnavigating monohulls. Where is the world capable 20 foot multi ?

@sail4life

10 ай бұрын

Now find a sailor that will survive that and not need a padded cell afterwards. They are a very rare breed indeed. IOW your bare essentials doesn't meet the bare essentials for at least 95% of the population, probably not even 95% of sailors...

That is true until you approach the million plus range- my monohull was designed to carry 5000lbs of stores and equipment- unless you have a really big cat that won’t happen

Does the sideways shake of a catamaran make for more seasickness compared to a monohull?

@ChasingLatitudes

2 ай бұрын

Normally yes

Back in the Summer of 1983 I predicted this monohull vs catamaran controversy. Look into it.

I didn't watch your video because of the title. Be positive!

Uhh, getting a Wharram 38' to 42' foot cat would be very nice. Just the basics.

Spent time offshore on both, definitely prefer a cat!

Cruising cats are mobile condos, not sailboats. Their sailing performance largely sucks. For some, that's ok, so be it. Actually a lot of the newer cruising monohulls suck as far as sailing as well, with big fat asses and acres of wetted surface, and tiny stub keels. Cant sail upwind or in lighter winds. I like to sail. I wanna be able to sail upwind, and in lighter winds. Almost zero catamarans can do that, tack angles are around 110 degrees v. my boat which tacks through 80 degrees. A friend of mine I raced with for years on his J120 bought an Outremer 45. Kept it for 1.5 years. Hated it. It was unwieldy, slow as shit unless you were reaching in 20+ knots of wind. Basically he had to motor everywhere because it sailed like molasses in January. Had a hard time finding places to dock it because of the beam. Personal preferences. If you are not into performance of sailing and are strictly looking for a waterborne mobile home, get a cruising cat. There are high performance multihulls which you can cruise, but they are usualy big, and very expensive. As far as my qualifications compared to the guy who runs this channel, I am a retired nav.arch. graduate of SUNY Maritime College (2nd in my class), 3rd mate unlimited tonnage upon oceans license, sailed on commercial ships, many ocean passages etc. Close to 500,000 miles at sea on everything from sailboards in Maui to 1100 foot crude oil tankers, 60 years living my life on the water.

Some one: Man the sailing channels sure have gotten boring lately. Chasing Latidudes: Hold my beer watch this. Kicks hornets nest Cat vs Mono slaps u-bers me:🤣

Well.. I have a Hurley 22r.. Its all I have. So it will have to do!.. One has sailed the Atlantic and gone through the Panama and then sailed the Pacific to Australia!.. I enjoy watching people overcoming the odds with small boats..

yup if you are not a true sailor grab a cat. go day sailing and enjoy the lifestyle before you buy. lots of local clubs out there! Vancouver bc n i still hav'nt gone sailing;( husky owner and low budget guy.

As a contrast.. I also have a 44ft, 34 odd ton Essex Smack called Our Boys!.. I would not dream of crossing any oceans in her as the bowsprit is out 20ft from the stem!.. Digging that into a wave would not be healthy..

Chris, I've been away for awhile, but I came back looking to see if you'd covered trimarans. I'm intrigued by the Corsair series of trimarans. They look like speedsters, but with decent accommodations. They're not as spartan as the J series of racing monohulls, but they're not luxurious to the point of being ridiculous like these 50 foot monohulls; for me, th Corsairs accommodations are just right. The outrigger hulls fold up, so you can fit in a normal size slip; you can also maneuver in tight spaces with the outriggers up, like in a marina. For me, it seems like trimarans combine the best of both monohulls and cats. I was wondering what you think of the Corsair trimarans? As for Sailing Project Atticus, I followed them up until they got their new boat. After watching what you had to say about buying a newer boat, it would've made more sense for them to get a new or late model, gently used Beneteau. Why? Not only would it be newer; not only would it have cost them the same that they ended up spending; with the straight stem bow, they would've had far more usable living space inside vs. with the raked bow of their Pacific Seacraft that they got. They could've saved on running costs, big time, if they'd gotten a newer Beneteau. As you always said, marinas charge you for LOA, not LWL. When LWL is close to or equal to LOA, you're better off. You have more living space and pay less when in harbor. As for Sailing Uma, while I was impressed by what they did with that old boat, they spent YEARS refitting it! Not only that, they spent lots of money doing it. Why not spend more money up front on a newer boat, so you can get on the water sooner? Also, your boat's hull materials won't be worn and aged. Also, at my age, I don't want to spend years refitting an old boat; life is short, and I'd like to enjoy it on the water. Besides, my arthritic knees wouldn't like a refit much. But hey, that's just me.

I'd like a catamaran, heeling is only cool for races