Or even the bad decisions of parents. It took me until age 30 to get out of my Low-Income/parents did not care/Welfare mindset that I was raised with. I looked at the world WAY different than those raised in a good home and then I finally realized I was a victim only in my mind.

@karamlevi

Жыл бұрын

🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 Great job sir. I’m working on myself. Brian Tracey Bob Proctor Earl Nightingale This video… Even Andrew Tate ❤ It all adds up to inside out transformations-

@kaloncar

Жыл бұрын

Good for you Shaun. Move toward truth and it will set you free. Now, succeed and tell your story.

@jayjayfierro5301

Жыл бұрын

Nailed it

@davy1972

Жыл бұрын

Consider the shift you have made there. Now, if you have a family, and raise children, you now continue the trend change. Not in bitterness but in love. Pretty awesome.

@charles_macmillan

Жыл бұрын

What a powerful realization that must've been

Cleaning your room is removing the plank from your own eye before focusing on the speck in your neighbors eye.

@NowaboMusic

Жыл бұрын

Or it's at least it's a great place to start.

@CrimeDoesNotPay

Жыл бұрын

That exact scripture popped into my mind when I heard it and I’m so excited to see your comment ❤

@charliechamberlin9350

Жыл бұрын

Can be, and much more.

@PaulMcMinotaur

Жыл бұрын

That’s true, up to a point. But I think the point of that scripture is that the plank in your eye fundamentally cannot be removed, at least not by you. So you just shouldn’t worry about your neighbor’s speck. But also clean your room.

@NowaboMusic

Жыл бұрын

@@PaulMcMinotaur It is important to help our brothers and sister is Christ grow in sanctification; Identifying issues in them and lovingly admonishing them is part of that. But don't go around pointing out other peoples' flaws if you have the same ones. That's hypocritical.

Anyone who genuinely takes the time to listen to how well thought out what Jordan says is, & how well he articulates it.. will truly understand why he’s a threat to the powers that be, & their tyrannical system. Keep up the great work - Legit The Producer

@EveryLittleBitCounts

Жыл бұрын

He just says things to sound smart. As someone with too high IQ to accurately measure it's embarrassing listening to jbp talk knowing there's people out there who don't know any better than to trust that he *sounds* smart enough Conciseness is one of the actual markers of intelligence, not vocabulary

@tlakits16

Жыл бұрын

@@EveryLittleBitCounts He says things to sound smart? If thats your take, while some how claiming to have high IQ, I then think its fair to have skepticism of your claim moving forward. Its such a short and unreasonable claim to make so you can just easily write someone off in your mind, convince yourself of that so you now can just discredit everything he says because he may have ideas that go against yours. Not every word he says is true, and I can understand your annoyance with seeing how people seemingly worship the man. I would consider myself a fan of his work, but I do see it odd how people hold him to a standard of a prophet, thats a little much. But let's not say "Oh he's just trying to sound smart and everything he says is just nonsense" you know that isn't true. Agree or disagree with things he says, he speaks his truths and yes even sometimes speaks the truths of whats going on in this world.

@RBYW1234

Жыл бұрын

If you see Crickets, thats your conscience - Don't beak it, just know they are there to guide your though process.

@FreddysFrets

Жыл бұрын

@@EveryLittleBitCounts How about using grammar, proper sentence structure and punctuation? Hi IQ? Whatever you say Pythagoras.

@EveryLittleBitCounts

Жыл бұрын

@@FreddysFrets I'm sorry youre feeling defensive over my punctuation and incomplete sentences. It must be difficult being so insecure that you can't absorb a new idea if it isn't presented to you how you would prefer

"When you get the literal and the metaphorical working at the same time, that's REAL." This honestly blew my mind. And can further explain how and why music & stories have such a huge impact on us.

@kaloncar

Жыл бұрын

Yup

@SupermanChampionOfTheOppressed

Жыл бұрын

lol that blew your mind.

@daigorowolf2136

Жыл бұрын

@@SupermanChampionOfTheOppressed well Mike one’s epiphany won’t be the same as yours especially if you’re farther along in knowledge and experience. He could be a teenager and that would be understandable 😊

@reallydee8199

Жыл бұрын

@@SupermanChampionOfTheOppressed Morons like you wouldn't understand considering you're an anti-American you would never understand you hate the country you live in you think that's not gonna go badly and you think we're the morons yeah

I sure saw that when I went to work for a state agency (briefly): it was a collection of creeps and slackers, who accomplished almost nothing, day after day. The warehouse was a total mess, and it was very difficult to find anything. I offered to organize it. The boss said to go ahead. I figured everyone would appreciate it, but instead they seemed to hate me for it. The boss even said to me "nobody cares" to try to discourage me. And many other similar things happened. They simply did *not* want to improve, even when someone was handing it to them. I quit after 2 months. What a hell hole.

@VidkunQL

Жыл бұрын

I'll go out on a limb: did the difficulty of finding things justify all of their jobs?

@JP2GiannaT

Жыл бұрын

I just watched a friend go through something similar. I'm pretty sure she got unjustly fired because she actually cared about her job.

@DonTruman

Жыл бұрын

@@VidkunQL no, they didn't need any justification to burn off time every day. The boss, his supervisor, the facility manager, etc, couldn't care less.

Sharpiro is pure intellegence. Peterson is pure wisdom. Together they could save our world.

That last 1:30 is next level. The literal & metaphorical lining up, IS truth beyond understanding. Your personal failing can doom you in this world and the next. Make good choices, tell the truth, speak the truth and never capitulate your morals and values.

@andrewzembar3869

Жыл бұрын

except these types of people impose their anecdotal beliefs on others

I've learned that freewill in itself is the greatest gift and greatest responsibility we can have. Choosing to exercise freewill means growth and discomfort. However, we can also surrender our freewill to fear. Fear in itself is an entity that will convince you to avoid what is difficult and to stay in safety and comfort. What fear does to the soul is quite impressive: it subjugates the soul to immediate comforts and pleasures, in exchange for parts of the soul. Fear will imprison parts of the soul, convincing you that these parts are bad and they should be locked away - for your safety. The more you buy in to fears advice, the more agency it steals from you. Until ultimately, fear makes the self so paranoid of itself that it decides to imprison the soul voluntarily. And this behavior extends into the outside world, and how one interacts with others. Let me tell ya, freewill is not easy. It does not come easy. Freewill is something we cultivate and grow and nurture. True exercise of freewill means facing fear. It means taking your power back from a creature that has been stealing it all your life.

I love listening to these two intelligent fellas I always leave learning something from their conversations 🙏🏾 god bless them both

@JaketheJust

Жыл бұрын

Like your channel by the way. Good commentary and keep it up

@theViewer221

Жыл бұрын

It's great seeing other channels you follow comment on other content.

@r8m8s8

Жыл бұрын

I just asked God and he confirmed he blessed them both.

@tylersoto7465

Жыл бұрын

Amen , I love listening to them , it's like listening to old wise men speak

@adamsmith307

Жыл бұрын

Skin colour emojis are intersectional bs

"Human beings DO suck, unless they decide to stop sucking" was perhaps the greatest quote in human history

Thank you for being in my life Dr Peterson. Respect and love from India. May God bless you with a long and fruitful life. Take care old man. We need you.

I love these two talking and sharing it with us. That last part hit me hard.

This little discussion has so many gems of truth contained within it. Thanks guys. We, the people of earth, need to *Think beyond the stupidity of this age and do what is right.*

@RBYW1234

Жыл бұрын

If you see Crickets, that's your conscience - Don't beak it, just know they are there to guide your though process.

@kaloncar

Жыл бұрын

Yup

1:15 confronting potential and casting it into a reality for good or evil SO SMART

The part of growing up in a dysfunctional household and then telling yourself: “the buck stops with me. I refuse to carry on my life this way.” Is an amazing time for someone and yes. Like JP said, those who take notice of your quiet productive lifestyle will anger them because it questions their existence.

Very true! Try to "clean your room" and see what kind of monsters will rise up against your efforts. It's not an easy nor a fair battle, but more than worthy, it's necessary.

Four years ago, I saw JBP for the first time talking with Ben on the Rubin show. It was the most amazing conversation I had ever heard in my life at the time. After that, nothing was quite the same. It's nice to see my two intellectual godfathers talking again.

That last part really hit home for me. In my little life I've been dealing with a very manipulative boss. He is very slimy and has swept many important safety and personnel issues under the rug to avoid making himself look bad to his boss. My coworkers all feel similarly but no one will speak up because, on the surface level, he's a friendly guy. He'd rather be our "friend" than our boss. But a friend that wouldn't hesitate to toss any one of us under a bus if we spoke out against him. The workplace has become so toxic in the last couple years that accidents and fights are becoming fairly common. A work friend of mine was just accosted by another co-worker, and directly threatened with violence. My work friend reported it to the boss who immediately said he'd "already talked to (his) boss about it and it was taken care of. Now get along." My work friend didn't like that and called the office himself. Now he's waiting on the big boss to come and get the story from him. Big boss hadn't heard a word about the situation, big shock. Our "friend" boss came to tell my work friend that, if he didn't say that the issue was taken care of, he was going to be fired. Now the friend is afraid to tell the story because he "needs this job". The whole situation reminds me of some of the tales Solzhenitsyn told of the ol Soviet Union. It's completely sickening, but could be addressed if we start speaking up for ourselves and what's right.

@kaloncar

Жыл бұрын

I'm sorry that happened to you Chazz. Good for you to watch and learn from JBP. We can all all benefit from wisdom of this degree of insight and helpfulness. Hang in there.

@lukemorgan7479

Жыл бұрын

If he tells his bosses boss what really happened and that he’s being threatened to be fired then that should be all the evidence he needs to not only keep his job but get that backstabbing loser out from over you all. Your word will help in the case, too, and anyone else you can rally against him.

@orangetang74

Жыл бұрын

Don't be a coward. Speak up

@girth_goblin

Жыл бұрын

Well said, comrade. Seize the means of production and bring democracy to the work place

I have yet to EVER leave Peterson video without learning something new. Peterson's works challenge me. I sit down and really think about not only what he messages/ideas but how those messages/ideas apply to my life.

Jordan's description of the household & relationships surrounding it, is very apt. It feels like people don't know how to encourage one another unless they see it in their interest, I'm sure this is a social economic phenomenon.

@jamesbarlow6423

Жыл бұрын

Just that? I see it as an evolutionary biological stab at power enhancement.

@newsingle8502

Жыл бұрын

Agree well put

@117Industries

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesbarlow6423 It’s both. The social and economic mechanisms around us bring out the Cain within us, so to speak. It activates our inner “evil monkey” and divides us. And, ‘a house divided […]’.

@JeffCaplan313

Жыл бұрын

You're talking about women, I have to assume.

@tvathome562

Жыл бұрын

@@newsingle8502 touché

I've had the specific familial problems JP talks about. This exact situation. First, it was with diet and personal health when I was 14 and later it was with our yard. You would not believe how upset my father was that I began grooming our yard so it looked nice (it was completely overgrown and wildly out of control). You would think I had gotten a girl pregnant while also stealing his heirloom watch for drug money - and I'm definitely not being hyperbolic. I'm definitely sure there are parents who were less upset about their kid failing a class than my pruning of the overhanging plants in the backyard. I know not everyone has to deal with that type of stuff but what JP is talking about, in reference to the Cain and Abel story within the household, was exactly what happened to me. I forgive my father for actively trying to hurt me and hating me but it is nice to have a deeper understanding of the dynamics that were occurring.

@viannarts

Жыл бұрын

maybe your father didn't hate you, maybe it wasn't personal at all! I experienced something similar as you and now I can see that what my father hated was seeing people "flying higher" than him, if you felt good inside your skin it was already a reason for him to shoot you down so he wouldn't feel so shitty about himself. With time I realized that all the bad things he did to us was about himself only and we were just a by-product of his own high neuroticism.

@kaloncar

Жыл бұрын

I'm sorry that happened to you Joe. That sucks. Good for you to follow your instinct to "clean your room"

@joenichols3901

Жыл бұрын

@@viannarts Maybe hate is not the right word but I later found writings of his (it was a google search he made so I discovered it on accident) and he was searching for what to do when you deeply resent your son. I definitely agree that what you are describing is why he felt this way - but being highly neurotic can also describe Hitler (who viewed jews as "dirty" like a literal infection on the German people). I believe his main reason for resentment is that I am naturally confident. He wanted to see me suffer and accept my position as a loser just like him. I naturally fight against being "the loser" as much as I can. I still am this way; I would prefer death than acceptance of being a "loser". I have been a "loser" at times but I have certainly, without a doubt, ever given up my hope for a better future or acceptance of that. I definitely agree that those factors are causing his anger towards me but there is nothing I can do to rectify the situation. He does not want a relationship with me, he has disowned me from half of my family and my forgiveness (which I have done with genuine desire) does not change anything. I think most people who hate others are driven by factors such as the ones you have listed. That does not change the fact that the person feels and embraces the hatred.

@joenichols3901

Жыл бұрын

@Bill Ovchill Yessir !! I cannot wait to be a great father to at least four kids. I have gone through so much suffering but on the other hand I am a handsome, well educated, 6'2, American male with amazing future opportunities ahead. How can I possibly complain about my situation? I am so much luckier than 99% of the world population. If a rough childhood is the cross I must bear then I bear it with gratitude. If anything, the bad childhood simply makes all the success I have now taste so much sweeter than if I had never suffered.

@lukesf4895

Жыл бұрын

​@@joenichols3901Dear Joe, I understand your pain. "Hate" seems right, simply it's a defense mechanism as I've found that jealous fathers tend to hate (in part, among a mix of different feelings) their sons because of the mirror effect: "My son appears more top-dog/smart/nice/successful/free-thinking and the list goes on ....than me at something?!!! Not acceptable! What does that make of me?!!!" As you can see, it's all EGO... they are obsessed with themselves, and that's ugly as exhibited in their mean behaviour. They want to make you fall off from what they see as pedestal somehow. When it's about ego, it means they've got a long road ahead to get better and stop hating good people. One of them: become a good person themselves by implementing what's right whenever they feel they could. They would as a result stop wanting so badly what you have (goodness), jealousy would drop, and hate with it. They could instead grow they own charactere, and admire their son, and want to take a ride on their success. Jealous parents know very well that they are not perfect. They just would rather drag you downward with them than let you shine any light, because they don't want to walk any longer toward any light. They're too good for that already, you know....(sarcasm). In my experience, egocentric parents leave limited room for children to succeed: there's a threshold past which your success in life is somehow too uncomfortable to look at for them. I find them to be big babies (that you outgrow) who want your goodness (what you're good at), and do not want to work for it themselves.... Why not work at it? It is likely due to a lack of both courage and self confidence. Even though... on second thought... maybe it just boils down to courage. After all, aren't we all lacking confidence originally before any endeavour? Don't we build confidence through trying hard first? I think we do. If the endeavour is "become a better person each day", I doubt you'd be jealous of good people around you, even if they are better than you at some or many things. You'd be cheering! You are a good person. In my case, I find now that grew past where my dad is at in life, and instead of grabbing my hand, he chose to reject it out of pride, out of cheer laziness to turn himself toward betterment. This "I want that now!" jealous attitute shows as hate, hate for what they believe is too hard to get, hate for a son they wish they'd ressemble more. Hating here seems like attempting to fool yourself into thinking you do not want something you really want deep down. They want what you have. They don't see that they could just collaborate with you and all of a sudden they would become the lucky beneficiaries of your wisdom at whatever it is you're good at. So it seems like they also have a problem with the idea of collaborative work. They don't think they can benefit from the family being stronger together with your skillset added. Why is that? Are they so unused to the idea of sharing that they themselves do not expect it from others? I have found indeed such fathers to be quite the selfish type. A selfish guy will not expect what you have to be able to benefit them unless they themselves hold that power you have. They are wired to behave like jealous pricks because they are lazy, scared (not-courageous), non-sharing humans. What you exhibit as a quality, they see a something they lack in such a way that reveals their lack of ambition (they feel humuliated) and as a quality that they are not able to touch or benefit from (due to their close minded non-sharing attitude in life, they don't see your gift as a gift for the whole group). In a word, they would need to overcome SO MUCH to be able to grow a genuine and healthy appreciation for their son's success that only a miracle can make that happen. Hence, maybe, a need to set the bar of expectations pretty low for the likelyhood they'd eventually one day make a leap forward. Let's just say that them respecting their sons and loving them righ in the future is definitely not impossible... although it would be the equivalent of a flower blooming in the sahara desert on a rare occasion when the ground got wet. The water has to come from inside. They need to 1. want to be better fathers, 2. work at it for a while.

Omg that "MMMPH" That Jordan was making at the beginning was too funny to me, I thought he was a Villager for a moment

'You wanna have some thing meaningful, that's the boat that will take you through the storm. Meaningful engaged life will see you through the catastrophes." Interesting points

Wow. One of Jordan's best summaries of what his whole philosophy is about. It really is true: if you wanna change the world, you have to change yourself first. There's no way around it and every time I've diverged from that I suffer the consequences

@tonygoodkind7858

Жыл бұрын

"Change yourself first" is nonsense. * My water filter went bad, causing me to want to change the world (so I wouldn't cough each time I drank water from it) * Did I start by changing myself? No, I just bought a new filter. Easy problem, easy solution. * I could've actually tried changing myself: sleeping more each day to recover from the fact that I was constantly pouring new microorganisms down my throat causing a minor allergic reaction which was exhausting. But do you think changing myself was really the best solution to the problem there? Because it definitely wasn't. Now it's usually a good idea to _check_ whether changing ourselves would improve things. After all changing ourselves is much easier than changing reality. For example I think theists should change their beliefs about gods, because they can't just magically produce evidence of a god: so reality isn't changing, and reality fails to indicate a god exists, and that's a problem only for people who believe in gods. So the solution is to change our beliefs to match reality (rather than banging our heads against the wall to try to say something is true that we can't prove).

@somethi3741

Жыл бұрын

​@@tonygoodkind7858 well, duh. External problems are external problems and you have to solve them. If I have a flat tire, it doesn't matter how much positive thinking I do, I'll still have a flat tire. So I wasn't saying that at all. That being said, taking initiative to solve external problems, especially ones that are caused by you, are scary or could be changed by you, will change you as a person no matter what. So it's not literally that you sit in a room meditating and the world around you magically changes. You meditate AND you go out and solve what you can, little by little. Dunno if you're against most of Peterson's individualist philosophy but it's funny how people always bash Peterson for the "clean your room" quote. They're taking it way too literally. If your goal is to start a business, for example, and your room is a disgusting mess, that's not a very good indicator of your future. So the idea really is start small, then work your way up.

@somethi3741

Жыл бұрын

@@tonygoodkind7858 well, it depends what you mean by "god". Most people view the idea of God under the same idea of "humanized" Greek gods, and obviously, if you view it like that then it's easy to say that God is a delusion. But the God theologists try to understand and "prove" (and also a good chunk of spiritual teachers and philosophers) is a whole different concept that I think is a lot more plausible than people give it credit for. It's not so much "big sky daddy disproves of you touching yourself" but more "we don't know why the Universe works the way it does but the more you analyze it the more a God makes sense."

@tonygoodkind7858

Жыл бұрын

@@somethi3741 Sure, but Peterson's overall "put your house in order first" mentality is what I assumed you were going for with "change yourself first", and hopefully you agree that's quite a lot different than the minor changes I needed to make to myself to (a) consider your responses, and (b) type a reply. Both those quotes imply quite a lot more than minor changes. In fact Peterson often brings it up as a way to suggest that people who _are_ taking actions shouldn't be taking them! You don't have to repeat Peterson's fundamental dishonesty of asking the definition to common words whose definitions are well-known. The two main definitions of "god" are known, and we don't have evidence either of them matches any part of reality. Unknowns don't prove we know a god is involved. They only prove we don't know those things. What about the things we do know? Well none of them involve or require a god. So neither the knowns nor unknowns indicate a god, and it's intellectually dishonest to say otherwise.

Ben Shapiro has never looked so jazzed up listening to someone else talk! Great video!

I love this conversation so much. One of my favorite lines: "People suck -- is the claim that Marxism makes -- but the only way to cure people of sucking is by changing the entire system, which will, in some magical fashion transform the nature of humanity ... The claim that _you're_ making (and I hope that I'm making, as well) is that human beings *do* suck unless they decide to stop sucking ... And your whole goal is to tell people exactly how it is that they can clean up their rooms, as the famous phrase goes."

@Stereotype23

Жыл бұрын

Except that its not what Marx says at all. Marx is specifically talking about capitalism - his magnum opus is called Capital - and the class system that it produces. He never claims that "people suck".

@galaxyofreesesking2124

Жыл бұрын

@@Stereotype23 (Clearly just a low resolution way of stating that the people who support Capitalism sucks, but ok.)

@Stereotype23

Жыл бұрын

@@galaxyofreesesking2124 Wrong again. You should try reading him instead of making lazy straw man arguments like Peterson. A key point to marxism is that the nature of man is not inherent. People will behave and think very differently depending on the social system they operate in. So a broad generalization like "People suck" is pretty much the opposite of what marxism is.

@galaxyofreesesking2124

Жыл бұрын

@@Stereotype23 No, the statement is that Marx says people support capitalism for negative reasons, hence Ben shortens that down to "people suck." Either it is greedy to want to "steal" the labor of the proletariat, or it is not. As well, how does one "steal" from supposedly innocent people without it being for negative reasons? Your logic doesn't follow.

@Stereotype23

Жыл бұрын

​@@galaxyofreesesking2124 Just read Marx Capital please instead of inventing a straw man you can feel superior to. Greed is not relevant to the analysis. Capitalism as a system forces us into classes where the workers - proletariat - has to sell their labor to survive. Capitalists are not inherently greedy or evil they are just the ones that benefit for being on top the economic system by owning the means of production. Marx focus is on the system. Not on people being greedy or evil or whatever other quality you might think is inherent to them.

Notice how they respect each other, and not interrupt each other even once.

These two together I'm excited for the greatness to come -keep it up guys 👍

this was one of the most mind blowing Jordan Peterson interviews

@RBYW1234

Жыл бұрын

If you see Crickets, thats your conscience - Don't beak it, just know they are there to guide your though process.

@kaloncar

Жыл бұрын

Yup

@CoercedJab

Жыл бұрын

@@RBYW1234 can you elaborate I had a stroke reading your comment

@RBYW1234

Жыл бұрын

@@CoercedJab 🦗

Always speak your truth and act out what u know to be right!, I like those wise sentences to a degree of printing out and framing them in my room. thanks for sharing

Im sure these guys were so happy to be able to chat with each other. We need more talks with all types of people.

Wow Dr. Peterson, I just realized something after I have been listening and reading your work for years. You are damn good! You are so good! And you truly believe what you preach, and you care. And it makes so much sense.

Wow. This conversation is magnificent.

All is mind. Free will of the ego mind vs the will of our higher selves is what we need to listen to.

What a beautiful conversation. Much love to all

Imagine 2 worlds 1 where everyone tries to fix everything but not themselves. 2 where everyone tries to fix themselves only. Imagine the outcomes

@illogicerr3769

Жыл бұрын

One cannot fix others. One can only encourage.

@-Vitalis-

Жыл бұрын

@@illogicerr3769 EXACTLY!

Awesome insights articulated beautifully! Thanks for posting!

I made a terrible decision six years ago, which I've paid (and continue to) pay the price for and even now I think to myself "this shouldnt be my life, I shouldn't be here with you" and it feels like I completely warped my own reality. It's terrible - but I just have to deal with it.

@jeremiahragira7633

Жыл бұрын

Hey I had this happens too me too i recently leaned on Jesus (the logos) and he got me out of a very abysmal hopeless view of life. I can empathize with you. Hopelessness is the worst pain of it all. Take it one day at a time and lean on a greater truth and let it guide you out of this. There is hope friend in your searing almost unbearable pain. I got out of it and I praying you find your way too

I've watched many of both your videos. I have to say how interesting it is hearing Ben Shapiro mutter "mmm hmm" nodding in agreement for long periods of time, listening. Really says something about Dr Peterson. I thoroughly enjoy you both. The daily wire is my jam too.

Peterson is noble, but Shapiro is sharp as a knife

@ph-vf5hx

Жыл бұрын

His voice is certainly cutting

@leftwingersareweak

Жыл бұрын

Both are wise.

@BoRisMc

Жыл бұрын

Sharpiro

@TheGeniusStyle

Жыл бұрын

JP is a wet stone. We're all knives. Society dulls us.

@jonathantaylor7167

Жыл бұрын

It’s easy to seem sharper when you’re not going as deep. I promise you Peterson ran this one

Bingo. What an amazing point. JP is an absolute treasure.

This man is a saint. Saints never pull their punches, and JBP doesn't. He tells it like it is. Well said!

Thank you, Jordan Peterson.

Love hearing these two talk!

8:00 oh wow, the understatement of the century right here. SO true

3:50 of course it makes you angry and rightfully so ! Anger is nothing bad per se

You can see how much Shapiro admires Peterson. Like student and teacher. Sweet

Great point at the end.

he's right about that, when you try to pull yourself up and change things, other people will pull you down, even family.

@RBYW1234

Жыл бұрын

If you see Crickets, thats your conscience - Don't beak it, just know they are there to guide your though process.

the reason it is so hard is that it's both, some things are determined and some are dependent on you or someone else choices. Here is the example if you can remember a time when you did something because you believe that you had no choice (even if looking back you can see you did) those moments are deterministic, as well as all the actions you take without making a conscious choice to do it, everything else is free will.

Thanks Ben & Jordan!!!

I have never seen two people agree with each other more intently LOL ! Mad respect though, it's nice to see a depth of discussion on these topics (even if it is rather one sided).

It feels like Peterson summed up all of his thoughts and his main ideas in this 10 minute video

This conversation is basically one of them talks and while he does that the other one makes weird noises in the background, and then they switch Solid 10/10

I love the closing comment. it is a relatively rare message to focus on. it actually very similar to the very surprising message in the children's movie Snow White and the Huntsman. the rally speech before the battle in the end of the movie totally surprised me.

When two people are on the same wave length.....conversation flows well

Man such a blast from the past, in a good way. Jordan & Ben were two (of many) thinkers/commentators who really helped to reshape my outlook to the world in my early 20's. I still find myself going back to the old stuff an uncovering new treasures. What JP is talking about here with cleaning your room is so true. During that reshaping period in my early 20's I was in University and lived in a house with 3 other guys who were some of my closest friends at the time. As I started listening and starting to pull my life together ( I was a pretty sorry son of a bitch at that point) I began cleaning my room in a myriad of ways. My friends were the party hard types who would day drink hard and all the rest of it, and I did my share of that too, but then I began pulling away. Tell you what, the venom I got from of my 'friends' was eye opening. I truly believe there are some people that when they are on their way down will do everything in their power to tear everyone else down around them with them. Eventually I had to guy ties with most of them. It was really hard thing to do, but it has paid massive return on investment in terms of my personal mental and spiritual health. I do not hate them, for the most part I feel sorry for them, and some of them have come out the other side and are doing much better now. I learned you have to secure your own life preserver first and be ready to cut away the dead weight when it isn't helping you strive to be the best version of yourself.

@reallydee8199

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No what I think that originally started was you had all these social Justice Warriors there were taken in the streets they think they're fighting actual nazis invisible nazis they're fighting but they think they're actually fighting people and people and Jordan I'm already 1st started saying this he would say look yes he would say look the majority of these college students if not college students are the same age as college students then the majority of them if you got to know them personally do not know how to even clean their living conditions their room they're lived their house it's a mess it's a fucking it is a pig style It is unorganized he probably can't find a fucking thing in there his house his room is a fucking mess and he wants to change the world these people if you're gonna change the fucking world start with fucking cleaning your room you can't clean your own fucking room you don't need to be changing the fucking world that was his 1st message with that

2 of my favorite people thank you very much

Peterson is a blessing and anyone who listens to him intently is to make something good out of it. Whoever accepts the gift is bound to acknowledge that he or she is instantly responsible for any squandering.

I live in Russia and I’m really really depressed, cynical, miserable, have no meaning in life, and also live in a totalitarian country with millions of people who are like me, and I truly agree that we’re not victims, we were actively working towards what we’ve got now by being deceitful to ourselves and others, coward, and passive. Also, this happens to us for who the hell knows what time for the past millennia. So, it’s not a coincidence, it’s deserved.

Jordan and Ben are both passionate, aggressive, and perhaps moderately disagreeable people, and I don't blame people for sometimes interpreting that as anger when they're in the heat of some debate. Sometimes I even find myself interpreting that as anger, and I'm not sure it's not at least related.

"telos" - I learned a new word today. Thanks Dr Peterson.

Brilliantly said!

Peterson clearly has a knack for understanding parables and relating them to others seeking understanding

Love this, opens eyes!!

Absolutely brilliant, beautiful, powerful, and brutal truth Jordan. 👏

Living with, or amongst people, who are orderly as their pattern of living is far easier than with those who are not. To be orderly is one’s our greatest personal assignments and is by which we evaluate, engage and test every relationship. Each one of us MUST personally self-develop and demonstrate it is in our nature, a proven prevailing value, as it is a character quality we become known by in-and-outside the walls of our home. Without this foundational spiritual wisdom there is chaos. Everyday it is tested, and in the midst of cultural shifts we are witnessing a severe downgraded version of order; display and disposition of people. Disorder has become the prevalent representation we are observing throughout social media, and by the repetition of viewing an undisciplined society (wreckage viewpoints) it’s become a tactical teaching tool for furtherance of ill-equipped and wrought behaviors. The continuing overconsumption of such kool-aid is not a renewing device but instead a ploy to deaden virtues, hence societal unrest and plethora of disorders. The great deceiver, decorated souls, are consuming a condition we’ve long taken for granted… healthy minds. The deprivation is why we see countries foundational fabric of the family, community, governments, and every single societal benefit crumbling, as we’re no longer living together with righteousness, citizenship, virtues, servanthood and common decency. Proverbs 10:23 / The Voice 23 Mischief is the sport of fools,
 but wise actions bring joy to a person with insight.

Lmfao I love when Jordan Peterson does that hmmm noise 🤣 😂 he does it with soo much force

@jamesbarlow6423

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Narcissists are always seeking attention.

@salad6

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@@jamesbarlow6423 How ironic.

@shonuff7612

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@@jamesbarlow6423 I'm not sure I see Jordan as a narcissistic. I think he genuinely wants to get men back on track to begin men. Why do you not like him? maybe there's something I missed. I don't really follow people I just take bits of what I think is good or true and helpful

@ayyitsjbwhatsittoya585

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I thought it was edited in lmao 🤣

As well as the decisions you consider "good decisions" can warp reality

Thanks 👍

Awesome content!!!

Holy crap, this is a mind-fuck of a conversation! Jordan, you are slowly but surely transcending psychology and biology, and going into physics and mysticism (Sadhguru's domain. Actually, you should talk with Sadhguru, that would be extremely interesting interview). This is an upgrade compared to your earlier speeches - I love it! Had to re-listen a few times to catch all the fantastic things said. The speed at which you operate and talk is amazing. Keep raising the bar and never stop innovating!

@nv8949

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I know the speed at which both of them comprehend each other is crazy, just makes you wonder how smart both of them are

@elcapitan549

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Don't be fooled, Sadhguru hangs out with WEF. You want the real shit, look into Shunyamurti.

@CJ-lr4uq

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@@nv8949 I hate to be that guy, but what's being stated here is not all that complex or profound; most would come to similar conclusions on their own if they spend any amount of time thinking about this stuff.

This is an incredible clip.

i think the Double-slit experiment is another example of how life is not deterministic at some levels, and how we can live a life with free will, greetings from Ecuador

Beauty is enough reason for purpose. Regardless of what you do in your room, an orderly aesthetic is a purpose in itself.

@iamstillthinking

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Facts. Same is true in delving into music or mathematics, for example. Order and form is beautiful for its own sake.

8:33 It's like when Jiddu Krishnamurti says that if you don't have integrity as an individual, you are contributing to wars. I think one needs to have a very subtle perception to actualize the depth of this fact.

That HM always gets me

As Elvis sang….” Clean up your own backyard, Oh don't you hand me none of your lines Clean up your own backyard You tend to your business, I'll tend to mine!”…. 5:30 the “war on your hands” is so worth it, but it’s serious work… “Anyone can, not everyone does”

Your failures are your own. And so are your successes

@septemberdreamer2651

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I disagree, we’re all interconnected on a level we can only begin to consciously perceive

@nancybaumgartner6774

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@@septemberdreamer2651 try taking a poop for someone else , or eating dinner for them , or changing them. I’ll wait . We interface with and impact one another : we inter/co - exist . We are not “connected” , we connect as individuals with the same environments, but can only control ourselves.

WELL DONE 👍

Your "errors" bring you Wisdom. Once you own your "error" then you never have to repeat it. It becomes eternal wisdom in your soul.

@theboombody

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With really difficult tests with a lot of memorization I may have to repeat the error a few times before I finally remember to stop making it.

@striderblue23

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@@theboombody You've just described life :)

Yes. What a blessing this man has been. But the curse is and has been since 2018. You’re acutely aware of the value of this existence and how much more you are capable of, and could be doing. And to top it all off he tells you how to get the process going no matter what stage you are on your life journey. It’s remarkable, the way he has inserted himself into the fabric of society in a way that has positive impact on people who need guidance but in a way that instills them with the correct belief systems. I’ve never been forced to think or believe any kind of way. Jordan has articulated every single iota of information for me to make up my own mind. And I choose his path. Because I wanna take care of my family, I wanna protect my community and then we will see if I am able to contribute positively. Bc the last thing I’ll mention is that. I certainly don’t want to make the world worse by my decision to pursue a cause I deem worthy.

Whoever's reading this, i pray that whatever you're going through gets better and whatever you're struggling with or worrying about is going to be fine and that everyone has a fantastic day! Amen

@yandan7010

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Thank you. And you too.

@lastmashstanding2155

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Thank you. ❤ I needed that

@randomname2486

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Thanks man.

@tommielo3057

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We shall overcome. 🙏🏻

@santosturmio8189

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Bot account..

Utterly brilliant

He broke that down in a way I hope hits home for people. Keep your room clean and the rest will follow.

Beautiful.

I love his strong "MmmHmm's!" lol

I often get really lost when Jordan Peterson talks

The creation of a metaphorical and literal hell on earth is the accumulation of chaos within every individual by them being unwilling to live forthrightly in a manner that does not encourage a falsification of their own reality.

Very interesting, I have been watching Brian Scott cover The Law of One and everything seems to coincide with what they just spoke about. Our society is becoming more aware of how consciousness affects reality.

“Ugghhm ugghhmm ugghhmm” enlightening words by JP

6:48 so real. Definitely happens

Ben was totally fan-girling in this episode😂 I would be too🤷🏼‍♀️

Two great articulate speakers here.

Everything we do, and even the things we don't shapes our future.

im gonna have to watch this and replay each sentence at least 4 times

Wow I cannot get tired of them.

Shapiro's studio looks like it's got a bunch of heat lamps pointed at them

I'm happy to see the ending "thump" sound effect gone. I didn't like how it felt like slamming a door in your face. I miss the old classical intro music tho. I thought that described Peterson wonderfully.

“Hmm. Mm. Ahmm hmm!” Lol Jordan is energetic in this one because he finally talks to someone who gets it.