Dr. Peterson is an absolute master at distilling extremely complex ideas into an easy to understand format. We’re so blessed to have access to the contents of his mind.

@user-xu9rm1vg7c

6 ай бұрын

Well said brother

@Ages_of_domination

6 ай бұрын

Sounds like a hyper-redundant trait. Not only that but he focuses on the exact wrong things, not on who Cain and Abel are but on their actions which are just a filtered projection, seen as a reflection from the third party.... Zzzzz

@archlich4489

6 ай бұрын

If Cain and Abel had gotten along, the story would've been about someone else, imo@@Ages_of_domination

@MZRTMusic254

6 ай бұрын

​@@Ages_of_dominationwhat was he supposed to focus on?

@Ages_of_domination

6 ай бұрын

@@MZRTMusic254 who they are, which is where the judgment of this world truly lies.. it's in the comment. You can't even feel things if you're a fish, or a downsgndrome or someone with low consciousness Fate fucks the best of us This whore of an existence

That 40yrs was worth it, much respect to this man 💯

Everyone faces that dilemma of Cain and the temptation to go down the path of bitterness, resentment, and rage. It feels like it protects us at first but ironically it always leads to destruction.. The only solution I’ve found is this: for each person to accept their suffering, deny themselves, and carry their own cross.. and that’s how we would actually save the world

@fiorella1021

6 ай бұрын

My own solution has been to say a simple prayer: Bless them, Lord, I forgive them. May they forgive me. There are times when it's not easy to say it, the hurt is so deep or still fresh in my heart, but I say it anyway. It helps a lot

@theresefournier3269

4 ай бұрын

YAHsome. YaDah YaHUaH ❤

I completely agree that the Socialist and their ideological spawn are another manifestation of Cane. I was raised as an aggressive athiest yet over the years my love of learning and curiosity have let me to god. The last couple years have proven my conclusions into midlife that god is truth. Thanks for what you and your team do

@mattproductionz5839

6 ай бұрын

Jesus Christ is the Truth and the way

@1amilliman

6 ай бұрын

I presume you meant to write 'led me to God' but 'let' says so much more. In my opinion, Gratitude is a universal key.

@ShenanigansOnFleek

6 ай бұрын

Same here. ❤

@itareu95

6 ай бұрын

You sound impressionable

@jessicalacasse6205

6 ай бұрын

like being cheeleader for genocide ...

Wokeness is a religion. It's wild.

@m.thousands1848

6 ай бұрын

Wokeness is an ideology not a religion

@JediSteele

6 ай бұрын

@@m.thousands1848 religion is an ideology. 👍🏻

@m.thousands1848

6 ай бұрын

@@JediSteele it’s not at all. An ideology only tells one half of the story. Religion tells both sides of the story, it’s the antithesis of an ideology.

@JediSteele

6 ай бұрын

@@m.thousands1848 Religion is the striving for an Ideal set by God. Ideology is striving on an ideal set by humans. Humans carry out Religion through the practice of an ideology Wokeness replaces God with Human, it is 100% a false religion. The great Awokening

Lord Jesus Christ, son of God, have mercy on me a sinner.

@purplepenpassion9507

6 ай бұрын

There's a prayer you can say: Lord Jesus I have come to realize that I can't live without You, so I repent and turn from my ways and towards Yours. I accepted the fact that you died for my sins and resurrected again three days later, giving me a hope for being born anew. Thank you God for sending your son for my sake. I give you my heart, body, and soul. I will follow you with everything I have in me, in Jesus name, Amen 🙏🏿. Welcome to the family, fellow citizen of Heaven.

@sandrapetrasevic4077

5 ай бұрын

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I love that Dr. Peterson's response to having someone point out his "irrelevant" interruption is to laugh it off like he's talking to an old friend. His humility is noteworthy.

@andrewrhoden9122

4 ай бұрын

his response was to throw an ad overtop it!

@naomibowman6065

4 ай бұрын

Hahahaha! Genuine and humble. I will take Dr. Peterson's "irrelevant" interjections all day long!!!

I love this, truly heartwarming hearing Dr Peterson making biblical examples of real world situations. Shining light on the good Lord 🙏

@OS-yg9fr

6 ай бұрын

"give them hell" was also truly heartwarming

Mr. Jordan's profound understanding, shaped by his vast experience and knowledge, undoubtedly surpasses mine. Surprisingly, thoughts I harbored privately for 15 years, often dismissed as products of a damaged mind, were not only echoed by him but substantiated with scientific evidence. What brings me joy is his extensive fan base, united in learning and agreement. As J.B.P advocates, courage lies in expressing one's thoughts openly. Imagine a world where everyone fearlessly engages in discussions about ideologies, religions, or traditions. Thank you, Mr. Jordan, for inspiring such bravery.

@msmd3295

6 ай бұрын

Interesting conclusion. Unfortunately, JP has done a number of videos and speeches that support the Christian worldview. With that one has also had to accept the concept of god. As smart and "wise" as he may appear, Peterson completely abandons the notion of objectivity which is so valued in various fields in academic and scientific communities. An observer should wonder, why would someone abandon the scientific method and make a leap into the supernatural ? There's really no other explanation other than that individual's need for emotional comfort/support is more powerful than the seeking of "truth".

@tylerhall95

6 ай бұрын

@@msmd3295 you see, this is why I disagree with this comment altogether. People DO engage in discussion about ideologies and religion. They are just really bad at it. You have some level of conviction about your conclusion here - but you're a long way off from decent logic. You think you can explain the world empirically? You couldn't even explain your own actions for a single day of your pathetic life empirically. Not even for a single hour. Yet you think you have the answers for when our ape ancestors lower intestines made a subtle change 120,000 years ago to digest more fat than they had heretofore done? To say nothing of a million other important questions science has no answer for. Get real.

@officiallyeffectivevideos

6 ай бұрын

Jesus Christ bro you don't have to concede his intelligence undoubtedly surpasses yours and write and NPC godly praise of him. I'm happy Jordan has found confidence in his credence and values...that's fine but my god, he's human too... Do you know many mistakes somebody has to make to refine their views and values...he's not a Messiah.. he promoted responsibility and integrity...which is great.. but for Christ's sake... What's with all this godly praise...just live your life...do good...be responsible..forgive yourself if you mess up..and be happy.

@officiallyeffectivevideos

6 ай бұрын

The euphemisms and virtue signalling is just baffling.. nobody has a clue why or how we are in this realm...just do your best and spread love...yes adopt responsibility and have self confidence and live a good life...but all this virtue signalling and bible bashing is just nonsense.. you can worship god and align with that which is good through choosing love instead of fear in every action or reaction..it's as simple as that...most importantly...forgive yourself if you mess up... Decisions are a balance between the frontal cortex and amygdala...it's ok to make mistakes...as long as you learn from them and point in a the opposite direction..we are all human...none of us are perfect..Christianity is about forgiveness. Jesus hung with the sinners man...he knew they were just ignorant and needed guidance.

@msmd3295

6 ай бұрын

@@officiallyeffectivevideos Supposedly. Unfortunately not all "credence and values" reflect the facts. If one really wants the respect of others their credence and values should reflect the realities of the real world, things that can be proven. Yet many if JP's admirers are people who believe in the supernatural because Peterson (professionally) promotes christianity. A system of belief grounded in the supernatural of which JP can provide no evidence whatsoever. Peterson abandoned the discipline of his "science" when he started promoting theism.

Do you have any idea just how perfect it is it took 40 years?

@considerthis6889

6 ай бұрын

Travelling through the wilderness

@jgt07

6 ай бұрын

Absolutely! Hopefully he doesn't end up like Moses, who led people to the promised land but couldn't enter himself.

@chadh9457

6 ай бұрын

I was underwhelmed by his (40-years-in-the-making) revelation to be honest. He spent this video recalling the story of Cain and Abel and then his one 'innovative' idea was to correlate the envy of Cain with the envy of communists... eh

@silver292

6 ай бұрын

Not true, Moese did make it to the promised land. At the transfiguration of Jesus. :) Only difference is he got there by the grace of God rather than his own merit. @@jgt07

@ivorfaulkner4768

6 ай бұрын

Forty years: a slow thinker🥴

2 of my favourite people having a biblical discussion. Love it

@sebastien_1237

5 ай бұрын

may I ask who is the man on the right (not jordan b peterson) ?

'Nor is it relevant' R.I.P😂

Once Jordan said something to the effect of "if something bad happens to you, it means you did something wrong somewhere along the line". He also talks about Cain and Abel, and Abel was killed by his brother - so naturally I wondered what Abel did wrong for that to happen to him. All interpretations of the story seem to maintain that Abel was innocent and yet that is incommensurate with Jordans aforementioned point, a point which I agree with. So I think that Abel's mistake was to ignore his struggling brother and fail to get down in the mud with him so to speak and to help lift him up. Cain says "am I my brothers keeper?" and I think the implication is that we ARE supposed to be our brothers keepers to some degree, and not to be content to succeed while they fail. Therefore I think that the destructive struggling dispossessed left are actually in part due to the sins of the successful, not active sins but sins of omission, namely to be content to thrive whilst others fail. Jesus says in the bible “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” I don't believe in communism and the government taking from the rich by force and giving to the poor, but like Jesus I think that people should VOLUNTARILY give to the poor, and that by aiding the downtrodden in a spirit of charity the reason for the anger and vindictiveness of the left would be dissolved and the anger with it, and so too the turmoil caused thereby. To conclude I don't think we solve this problem by fighting the left but by helping them. A problem never goes away until it is solved and we will never have peace until this problem goes away. Thank you.

@godswillokoyomon171

5 ай бұрын

This is an interesting view.

@chesneytube1

5 ай бұрын

@@godswillokoyomon171thank you haha but worry for a KZread comment but I feel like it required it

@NdxtremePro

5 ай бұрын

Cain and Abel are the precursor to the Jewish people and Jesus, which is why Abel is portrayed as innocent. The difference is that Jesus did it voluntarily, and rose to defeat death. The early Christians lived in essentially communes, sharing everything, in many cases. Even then, they fasted and gave what they would have eaten during that fast to the poor and hungry. I want to be clear, however, the poor and hungry are not the left. They are the excuse the left use to live their lives of luxury and point fingers at others for not doing enough. The left will find something to accuse us of, it is in their nature.

@Raszcall

5 ай бұрын

Well though through point

Yes, finally one of Dr JPs guest said it: what is missing in my opinion from Dr JPs analysis of the Cain and Abel story is that innocent blood needed to be shed in the sacrifices both brothers made. Abel does this, he sacrifices an innocent lamb. Cain's sacrifice is fruit. Abel understood and obeyed God when God said that the wages of sin are death. Cain decided to bring his own preferred sacrifice, in the words of Sinatra "I did it my way ." The whole of the OT is an unfolding, progressive revelation, looking forward to the Messiah, the fully man / fully God figure who would be the fulfulment of what the OT sacrifices had been pointing to: the wages of sin is death, and Christ lived a perfect life that He may die in our place. I empathise with Cain: I cannot bear the thought of killing an innocent lamb, but the fact is that God told mankind that the only way to atone for our sins was through the shedding of innocent blood. And Cain disobeyed, hence his offering was not accepted by God. We have the same choice to make this side of the NT. We can choose to accept Christ's propitiatory death for us or can, like Cain, choose to make other sacrifices to God, but they are both disobedient & ineffective. Cain probably went to a great deal of trouble in preparing his sacrifice of fruit. Which can be seen as an attempt at salvation through good works. But no one can find salvation that way: we must find salvation in Christ's substitutionary death. Good works will be the fruit of that. Christianity is alone amongst all the worlds religions in that it insists that the way to heaven is not through good works, but through Christ's sacrifice at Calvary. Of course, faith without deeds is dead, but putting our faith in the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world precedes any good deeds we may do.

@scout2469

6 ай бұрын

Where did you read of God telling Cain or Able to bring a sacrifice of any kind let alone a blood sacrifice. Verses from the New Testament are not evidence of what God said/did.... They were written 1,500 years after the book of Genesis.

@dianepolk9878

5 ай бұрын

Amen!!!

This was so spot on, thank you for saying my thoughts I’ve had for a couple years now. Boom 💥

Thank you Dr. Peterson. Amazing content ❤

Distillation of such truth will save lives. Thank you as always. Looking forward to his upcoming book.

How is Jordan’s comment on a gig leaf not being a sufficient means of covering up “not relevant”, it was directly related to what they were talking about.

always thank you. i am learning a lot.

Wow. That's succinct!!!! The 40 years was worth the wait.

eternity is best forming a time we all can define as now simple and now. now eternal now.

I love that you are reading the bible more lately, Dr. Peterson. All of your lectures and studies have been so in-depth and thought-provoking! I truly pray for you and your family to continue and/or experience personal relationship, repenting, and submitting to Our Great Lord through Jesus Christ and by the power of His Holy Spirit! Your beautiful mind would have to let go of some logic because in spirit and faith is the only way to please God and He surpasses even the brightest combined and all understanding! Hehe He gave us these wonderful, creative, thinking minds and working, creating bodies in His image but with all thought and effort we never come close in the flesh. I hope you gain salvation and the amazing freedom, grace, and love of God and continue inspiring many in so many ways, as you do! Thank you for all your work!!! Love ya ❤️‍🔥✝️🤝💞🙏

Stopped for some sound thought ❤

Excellent. It’s a time to be courageous.

Thank you.

One of my favorite verses pairs well with the concluding point of this video. James 2: What profit is it, my brethren, for a man to say he hath faith, and hath not works? can faith save him? Yea, a man may say, I will show thee I have faith without works; but I say, Show me thy faith without works, and I will show thee my faith by my works.

Im infatuated with both testaments. They both talk about the love God has for his own people.

@jenniferklopman2557

5 ай бұрын

Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth. Our Bible ❤ The Word has had and continues to have a profound effect on my life. All that I need is there

Wow, this man never amazes to explain such complexes subjects for not so smart people, like me. May God bless this man.

Jesus was 40 days in the wilderness, Moses 40 years in the desert and Lent is 40 days too.

@midnightsplusnoonsis730LEO

5 ай бұрын

40 days/nights of Noah etc at sea too 🤙✝️

@louisedeacon1513

5 ай бұрын

@@midnightsplusnoonsis730LEO Significant! And apparently it takes forty days to make a habit....and forty days to break a habit

"The only fun we get is the thought that we are fooling others and getting away with it."

Good job Jordan.

Thank you for this discussion. It is horrifying to me at an individual level.

@briananderson1246

5 ай бұрын

The fear of G❤️‍🔥d is the beginning to all knowledge

I liked how Jordan mentioned the fig leaves being a bad way to cover up. It shows that those doing bad and what wasn't created to do good will always be a pathetic and dishonest attempt from what is perfect. In the same way Cain offered fruit which was also pathetic and dishonest from what was needed, as a way to "cover up" from doing a real sacrifice. The guest obviously likes hearing himself talk and is extremely narcissistic, I appreciate your thought Mr. Peterson. You made a good point there. Through humility we can appreciate and learn, something the guest clearly can't do.

This shows that it doesn't take a Christian to prove God. Jordan is proving God with pure facts and logic and I am loving every second of it. His head is in the right place, I just hope his heart ends up following.

@NiklasAhlstedtOfficial

5 ай бұрын

Im not denying anything, but what exactly was the proof ?

"What do I have to not say to keep my job?" So true even in eastern European tech companies.

Excellent

Perfectly stated

*You're getting warmer Dr. Peterson.* It took my Jewish mother 70 years to accept Jesus Christ and all of who He said he was. *Keep running your race, and finish well.* Shalom ✝️✡️🕎

@JohnSmith-qx8ll

6 ай бұрын

Praise The Lord! God bless.

@jacobus57

6 ай бұрын

I'm so sorry your mother was deluded into abandoning her faith.

@JohnS-ol8dn

6 ай бұрын

@jacobus57 She did not abandon it; she embraced it. She did not convert so easily. We saw Hanukkah miracles as my father died of cancer. Yeshua was present during and at the very end. I also saw the Holy Spirit during these difficulties and more. I speak with confidence and assurance with knowledge according to the scriptures, not from a point of skepticism and doubt. So the blind now see, but the seeing are blinded. As it was at the beginning, so let it be at the end. Amen. Amen.

@JohnSmith-qx8ll

6 ай бұрын

@@jacobus57 lol. There’s still hope for you to get baptized.

6:58 Orwell got this well in 1984 with Hate Hour, when everyone had to scream their hate at the screen and if you didn't scream quite hard enough...

I was not the first to arrive

It do be like that

We love you JP!

@jacobus57

6 ай бұрын

Who is this we? Are you Legion?😂

I had never thought of the parallel between the fig leaves of Adam and Eve and Cain's offering compared to the garments of skins God prepared and Abel's offering. Hmm.

“Let me tell you why the fig leaves are insufficient” places AD over his explanation. 💀

As its been said (I forgot who, maybe even jp 😅) "You dont even believe what you believe, you believe what you live out and practice."

Love Dr Peterson's comment on Marxism/Socialism. The story of Cain and Able always makes me think of my brother. Still cannot comprehend how we came from the same family.

Jonathan Cahn explains the world's deterioration from the point of view of people turning away from God Almighty and thereby turning to various idols. All brilliantly presented in " Return of the Gods". I would recommend all his books as absolutely mandatory for anyone interested in calling themselves Christian.

Peterson is brilliant and I love how he interprets scripture. Also.. his suits are always on point sharp as a tact God speed brother Peterson

@Hexadeci

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, but is he the Joker from Batman? I need to know!

That was really good

JBP- God has used you so wonderfully. I hope and pray you find HIM soon. Prayerful Blessings.

“How do you fool God?”. That’s good

I appreciate the concept of Haven but my view is that the haven is the different state of our mind, you can create your own haven in this life without having to die to go to haven!

Both the movement of fluids, gases and economics can be modeled by differential equations that have a tendency to repeat themselves, and I have the feeling this is so with society in general. It's just that these equations are much more complex so we regard it as merely chaos. But complexity does in no way say that there aren't functions within here that won't repeat themselves just because you can't use it for predicting our future.

Fascinating interview …. Cain and Abel, Adam and Eve. What is the least I have to do….to fulfill my obligations to God, but still be in His Grace and love.

I would love to hear Dr. Peterson discuss biblical narratives/interpretations with people like Dr. Scott Hann, Steve Ray, Trent Horn, Fr. Mike Schmidt, etc.

Muy bueno

Haha that shit with the fig leafs was funny

Wow. Never disappointed in JPs interpretation! I’m surprised which of my kids is Cain and which is Abel. Thankfully there is always change!

I think I hold some kind of record for being run off from the Methodist Church from its ministry. Once as a local licensed preacher in 1968 and again in 2008 as an Elder. It was at the same time both terrible and yet fulfilling in nature. What we often fail to appreciate is the physical toll that it takes. But God never shared an “Atta boy” with me for which I am grateful. What I seem to recall hearing from Jesus was something more like “ If you can’t get yourself up from this how are you going to get out of a grave?” Wowser.

@vivianhiestand7124

5 ай бұрын

No record. I was run off in '68 as a youth in MYF. Again in early 2000s as a contemplative with a Master's in spiritual formation. And again as an ordained elder in 2021 (and my husband in 2023). Terrible toll - physically, spiritually, emotionally, and financially since one's retirement funds are negatively impacted. Now a Free Methodist ordained elder leading a small church and working full time as a hospice chaplain. Why? Because I always knew Jesus is the mission; the denomination is just the means. There has been a cost, and I am content to serve Him, however imperfect I am.

@oneguyontheinternet7578

5 ай бұрын

Take a look at the very few compliments that Jesus distributed during His earthly ministry. He loves His people, but compliments are rare.

@vivianhiestand7124

4 ай бұрын

@@oneguyontheinternet7578 I agree. I'm not faithful for compliments but as Peter said, "where else would we go? You have the words of eternal life." He is God, and I am His. And I'm happy with Him.

Hell yeah

Well fig leaves are probably better at covefing stuff than most other leaves in the Middle East/Levant

Outstanding and remarkable conversation Jordan and Eric‼️💯 Our victory is in the blood of Jesus, in the authority of Jesus, and in the anointing of Jesus! We are anointed to share the Truth of God’s Word to a dying and hopeless world. ✝️🕊🙏❤️💯 ✝️ Revelation 12:11 (NKJV) “They conquered, triumphed, overcame him (evil) by the BLOOD OF THE LAMB (JESUS CHRIST) and by the word of their TESTIMONY.” ✝️🕊🙏❤️💯

„It took me 40 years to think me through „ - yes

I think the fig leaf is relevant. I had a good laugh.😂

😂i always laugh,thanks gentleman very much to Think on these things

@Knowledge_Shall_Increase

4 ай бұрын

Think on these things. Jesus tried to simplify things with a new doctrine that he must have felt was right for the time when he said, "If you will receive it," Matthew 11:14. I know of no one who teaches this beautiful mystery that Jesus himself revealed to the world, and yet the world has chosen not to accept it. It will change your life, "if you will receive it." kzread.info/dron/YADdb_XgWGgiPrEIjV1bgg.html

Ghandi said:"If you believe that Religion has nothing to do with Politics...then you do not know what Religion is...!"

@janeproctor5542

6 ай бұрын

Do you mean that when "religion goes down the tubes", so does politics?

In the story, Yahweh never asked for an offering, and Cain had only crops while Abel had livestock.

@scout2469

6 ай бұрын

Christian apologist have spent nearly 2 thousand years distorting the Hebrew Bible to gain followers in their fake religion, and I think it drives thinking people away from the true God, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of the Hebrew Bible. It is a perversion to speak for God and say that He needs blood shed for forgiveness. It is people that invented the ideas of sacrifice, God only puts rules on how it is to be done.

Prof Peterson , I have something to add to this and feel it would be lost in the comment section. How could I reach out and present my contribution to this topic that I know I rarely hear and possibly receive your intellectual feedback or critique?

Happy Birthday Lord Jesus ! I Love you Lord. Thank You Lord for coming to Save us , and help us. We need you Lord . Amen 🙏

I like this

we can break out of it on our own, the problem is living in society which repeats the story and wants you to be part of those iterations.. I have met many people who are a "been there done that", but they stay within society because they don't know any other way of making a difference.

An interpretation I find interesting is that the story talks about the two different life ways of people's at that time: The newer agriculturalists with their grains and the more traditional pastoralists. And yes the farmers even though they were less healthy than the meat eaters did tend to reproduce quickly and did attack the Sheep herders.

Notice how Cain is cast down for not being a butcher and then cast out for defending himself. Field...not pasture.

This is some deep thinking

I wish they would have discussed the contrast of Cain reacting by sacrificing his brother compared to Abel sacrificing the best of his flocks/herds.

So damn relevant.

Adam and Even adorning fig leaves is the first religious act yes, here qualified by the term 'negative', but it can easily be identified as simply the first cultural act and the story of Cain and Abel clarifies this creation of culture further by revealing that Cain is in fact the creator of society and culture, building the first cities and trades. The story of Cain and Abel is actually interesting because in it is the depiction of the first ritual sacrifice for god occurring before the progenitor of the cultural act of sacrifice, being the murder of the innocent individual. To clarify, the story depicts the flow as being from ritual sacrifice to murder, but in reality the flow was from murder to ritual sacrifice - which I find unintentionally revealing. The story is also interesting because the fact that a killer seeds civilisation is actually the epiphany of a long line of discovery of human nature and behaviour but the writers of the Hebrew bible put it at the beginning because that's where it belongs in the timeline of human cognitive and behavioural development. Religion is like the fig leaf, its function is to blunt the effects of mimetic desire, being envy, resentment and violence. Religion was not good for man but *necessary* for group survival in a very real Darwinian sense, where the biggest threat to survival is not plague, lack of resources, other groups, but internal group conflict exacerbated by mimesis.

I’ve begun to somewhat feel bad for Peterson, about a year or two now. I first stumbled into his videos on Nietzsche and other more academic subjects, maybe 6-7 years ago and they were quite insightful, informative and he was in a plain academic setting. I had no idea who he was and I don’t remember if his book had come out but he wasn’t nearly the phenomenon he is now. The difference then though is that he seemed jovial back then. And lately I’ve gotten the sense that he’s much angrier, harder than he once was. Perhaps that’s because of the sharp decay of society in north America, particularly in his home country-Canada has truly become unhinged in its suppression of free expression and attack on traditional life. Yet I can also see that it could be that he resents being attacked and so vilified by the radical left that is so dominant in the media now - in what once was known as journalism-something rarely seen in its old haunts, and academia, Hollywood, professional organizations. Even his publishers’ staff decided to unfairly lacerate him in egregious fashion. It’s absolutely appalling and he has every right to be angry about it. That he continues on, perhaps he knows how clearly those of us on the right at least see the pillorying of his name as unwarranted and contemptible. It’s funny because I’ve never thought of him as a conservative or if the right, but it seems he may have been pushed in this direction by the vile behavior of these sad souls that now inhabit the left wing.

Something else that might interest Dr Peterson, is how the first thing God asks Adam to do is to start naming things, and now today, the deconstructionists that Peterson speaks out against, are trying to undo that very act by blurring, destroying or deconstructing those identities and boundaries that began with Adam.

Not to compare. But I appreciate how few words Dr. Peterson said to express a clear point.

The Power of Myth is extremely important for humanity. Joseph Campbell did extraordinary work years ago in this area.

That’s generally true Jordan. First thing is that there’s an inherent power struggle throughout biblical texts and that is that a rising power will always be resisted by an existing power. (A Foundational murder is required to unseat an existing power necessarily Romulus and Remus etc…Rene Girard posited this.) Second is that envy bc after our needs our met we don’t know what to desire so we assign a standard that is relative to those around us (mimetic desire also posited by Rene Girard) this is a driving force of human nature and in a just society (a just cosmos) those who live with virtue will necessarily achieve the fruits of their labor (also a biblical thought). That acquisition inevitably incites the envious wrath of those without (we’ll assume a just society but society can be unjust) and the “final refuge of the incompetent is violence” so they will seek to seize those fruits by force. Aka Cain kills Abel. Extrapolated out to a social setting there are ways to extract from those with resources. One is taxes, another is war, another is public shaming etc and that gets built into political movements undoubtedly (as you note socialism or Marxism…you simply seize via tax or social ostracism or political witch-hunt etc). That’s a reflection of the dual survival mechanisms of humans we have both survival mechanisms one is to grow and the other is to kill. And one is more productive and socially constructive than the other. Society inevitably can also be unjust however, Cain can acquire resources by deception in which case, the political movement or violent act gets muddied by appearing justified and it becomes a more complex problem under what circumstances is force of violence justified. And we have just war theory and the like that develops via biblical principals (St Augustine being the pioneer). All those behaviors though reflect an aggregation of individual human psyches. And at the base level we all have within a Cain and an Abel. A violent animal shadow self and a higher cognitive self. Reflects our brain has both systems frontal cortex and animal brain.

@williamdecotiis8330

6 ай бұрын

There’s nothing a miserable person hates more than virtue. It is a psychological reminder of a personal failing (typically a repressed failing). And the greatest human justification for poor behavior is that everyone is doing it. That it’s normalized. So a virtuous standard must necessarily be expelled. That’s seen throughout history, Socrates, Pythagoras, the “wise man of the Jews” etc

@williamdecotiis8330

6 ай бұрын

You see this often in mood disorders where love is inverted with hate and they’ll actively reject love or intimacy as dangerous out of fear of abandonment bc the initial act of “love” was emotionally violent or boundariless and is now interpreted as dangerous. That’s counterintuitive but to them love is violence. So meeting violence with violence is logical although it actively causes misery or decent into the “underworld” or “Hades”. A world of perpetual violence and distress. As opposed to virtues which elevates toward peace and harmony aka Heaven

It's parables for a road map It's my walk through in riddles It's time for me to Ascend

Depending on the species a fig leaf could cover things up. It looks contoured for performance fit. Hahah

Love the Eric Metaxas jumpscare haha

I akways asked this question to myself. Why there is always has to be blood involved in everything basicly since the day we born up to when we kills others

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I linked my pineal gland to Mystics We connected through time & space My mission was a success

If I lived in a sand pit and noticed how unfortunate I was with my I lot. I reckon I could contrive some hope with my meagre collection of brain cells, project forward into my future lives, and kick the game off, knowing a nudge is as good as a wink when you live in a sand pit.

This guy said nothing that was remotely relevant to what Jordan was trying to talk about here, sorry bro, but I wish Jordan was interrupting more for once.

I would like to know what he was thinking about during the 40 years and why it took him so long.

Helps, governments, diversity of tounges.

JBP's ties are always a highlight for me

Ha ha You hit a button in your guest. "I didn't know that but it's not relavant....but it's your show so I'll let it slide." LMAO😂

Hahahahaha!! I laughed a lot. Hillarious. I disagree with a lot of course, but still, great job!

Cain may have struggled to get the sacrifices he made, meaning he may have had to scale mountains to acquire live animals to sacrifice to God. Personally, this is the scariest aspect because it means the type of life God may call you to live through may be one where you continuosly face mountains, a journey which would require the noblest of souls to traverse through or risk falling into bitter and envious resentment. That type of devotion requires a serious value for God, and when that disappears resentment is almost definitely bound to be the end result. This couples with an idea I had about waves civilisations follow which practically always end in tyranny. It's that when we struggle the most (either post or during the tyrannical stage), we harbour a deeper value for the essence of God, because, be it in the desert or in slavery, through attributes like Truth, Love, Responsibility etc, we find our redemption: a Holy foundation to build anew off of. For the first few generations within which we see growth off of this foundation we hold those redeeming attributes in high regard, however, as generations go by and we find ourselves in a state of increasing convenience, the value of those attributes become not so apparent. Combining the two, we can see how a group that sees another within their same system as profiting at a scale they could only dream of, while they suffer to meet their basic necessities, could grow bitterly resentful, and only more so when faced with thr proposition that they haven't sacrificed enough to get what they are fantasizing about. This could cause an uproar that ends in tyranny one way or another. It may have been a combination like this that helped someone like Nietzsche predict the horrors that would come about with what he called the 'death of God'. You could be in a position where it appears certain that no matter how hard you fought you could never reach the position another is in, but, first of all with the right determination you'll get somewhere significant in comparison to where you started off, and with God you can find peace in the thought that what you are promised far exceeds anything you see here.

I wanted to hear what Mr Peterson was saying or not saying about the blood sacrifices

Im not trying to remove no one believes o believes what u believe o woking with u until weeeee

I fundamentally disagree with the statement that all human beings know something is wrong. Children do not know something is wrong. They are joyful and love everyone unconditionally, and I would argue that an enlightened adult like Mother Teresa also loves unconditionally. In my opinion, the only thing wrong with man is that man has forgotten, what’s really important in this world. But I can assure you one thing to yourself and you’ll lose the sense of what “wrong”

"Divination"