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Definitely one of my favourite forms. Gives the listener enough contrasting material while keeping it structurally sound and concise. Thanks Ryan!

I know it's just you judging your competitions, so you can't look at the scores and sound has to be the focus, but if you could only see what I've learned from you. This. This stuff has made my music way better. Every entry, on paper, is beautifully crafted and it's thanks to you. I've even gone through my files and finished many other works. Maybe, with more people, you can have a composition competition where the score is judged. That's where the art and craft of composition truly shines, and, that's what I believe I do well. I'm not good at the DAW yet, but, we will see. Cheers.

Tips: Reverse direction of A theme Pull small fragments from A theme as similarities create a sense of cohesiveness. Start on a different note from the tonic or starting note of A theme

Thanks for your content, Ryan. I often feel like I learn more from you than I did from my college composition professors. Sad, but true.

Great video! I think the Octopath stuff is excellent material to illustrate this concept :)

@gavinleepermusic

12 күн бұрын

Also, Ophilia B section is doing all of the idiomatic Japanese media music things in such a nice way :)

Very nice. I have so many 8 bar ideas lying around in cubase. Gotta go back and visit some of those.

@DTux5249

8 ай бұрын

Now here's a question: have you successfully revisited any of those?

Great video, thanks for making this Ryan!

Yes! Please do more videos on form.

Well done , thanks again Ryan

soooo helpful

I love discussion of form. Especially on the level of sentences and periods. Really enjoying the channel!

Loved it Thank you Ryan!

Always insightful! Thanks Ryan!

Another great video, very helpful indeed Ryan.

Your videos is so good! Thank u for them

Great video Ryan! Thanks!

Fantastic video, really helpful !

Thanks for making these videos, they're always very helpful and concise 😌🙏

This was most helpful! I would love a full course on this topic some day. ;)

Wow. Your explanations are so clear and logical.

Really enjoying your videos on structure ! The examples are really useful. Discovered only lately how fundamental this topic is. Looking forward to seeing videos about how to merge such small forms into a longer one. Studying structure in John Williams' pieces could be really interesting as well.

it really got me thinking about the importance of the cadences. thanks

Great material! Inspiring

I love your videos Ryan! They cut right to the chase and are very practical. Thank you so much for your insights!

Great video Ryan!

@RyanLeach

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Thanks, this is a great followup/explanation to your ABA Octopath Traveler video! Also thanks in general for showing the great soundtrack of Octopath Traveler, I would have never checked that out if it wasn't for your videos.

Thank you, Ryan. It was really informative and usuful)

Love the video. Would always love another video on transitions though.

Fantastic channel. Been watching for several days. trying to get ready to create, but I want be as equipped as possible. Thank you Ryan. You content is concise and exceptional.

@RyanLeach

9 ай бұрын

Thanks! Watch everything twice but don't let me be an excuse to procrastinate on writing!

I really enjoy your videos on structure and form, so I'd like to see you dive a bit deeper! I think Mark Richard's paper on film music themes could be a good source if you decide to.

Hi Ryan; Would you consider creating a video about the double period? Thanks again for the clearest explanations I've heard, concerning different musical forms.

videos like this are really amazing....

Usually I have about a minute worth of material and need to learn more about orchestration, arrangement, and production so I can turn it into a full song. Sometimes it's just A and B parts, but more often it'll be ABC or even 0ABCD0 or something. ... and I almost never use periods in music. Each section ends with an interruption into the next section, pulling things forward, and usually the only resolution is the very first note of part A.

Always learning something new from great videos like these. What I find great is that you use theory vernacular/terminology, and I've needed to brush up on it, esp. regarding cadences. Ps. Would love to see FF7's OST as one to explore and break down- that's just my wishful thinking. lol. (If you were going to use a game or series for reference again, that is). Thanks again!

Perfect timing! I've just watched your ABA form vid and now it feels like a demonstration and explanation two-part video

@RyanLeach

Жыл бұрын

Nice! The followup to that one has been a long time coming

Great video Ryan. I would object a bit on how much the B theme should be related to the A. Doing tricks like inversions, mirrorings etc on the A theme would lead more to a A’ section (development) rather than a B. I think the general perception is that B should be contrasting and self-contained as material, so that it really allows for the return to A to give the feeling of returning home from somewhere distant.

I've just noticed in Cyrus the Scholar that the entire piece is structurally very similar to the sentence form but with eight bars in each phrase instead of four. The first eight bars is equivalent to the main idea in the sentence form, with a continuation in the next few bars, with a cadence at the end. This gives Cyrus the Scholar the advantages of the sentence form while having the feeling of an A and B section. Thanks for posting, I would have never realised this otherwise.

Love this channel, that's all I have to say

7:59 that part is so beautiful my God 🤯

Thanks

@RyanLeach

11 ай бұрын

Thank you!

Multiply your theme by itself ... or by another theme.

What about an orchestration? Should we keep it consistant in a section and change it in B section? How much change is too much?

@RyanLeach

Жыл бұрын

I think a break in section is a great opportunity for a change in color or texture. Generally the smaller the form/piece the less drastic the contrast

You videos about forms made me realize I need to put more effort into studying this super important topic, so I started reading "analyzing classical form", even though it's pretty long and firmly rooted in classical music analysis, it's been very interesting. Any other books you might recommend?

@RyanLeach

Жыл бұрын

ACF is of course my favorite. I like the Cedric Thorpe Davie a lot as well, much more concise. Another I read long ago that left an impression is The Thematic Process in Music by Rudolph Reti, although it's been a long time so I don't quite remember the details. Also I think it's our of print and hard to get a hold of..

@ShaharHarshuv

Жыл бұрын

@@RyanLeach nice. I had a feeling you might be basing some of you videos on ACF after reading the chapter on the sentence form 😅

Ryan, long time subscriber first time commenter here. Do you have a resource for all these octopath charts or do you do them by ear?

@RyanLeach

Жыл бұрын

Just by ear, so there's certainly room for error!

I feel like I own this guy a million for his great vids ! Whish I knew his bank account !

@gaopinghu7332

Жыл бұрын

To steal from him? When someone says this, it becomes very suspicious

Thanks for using Octopath music, a very underrated series IMO. Incredibly moving soundtrack.

Can you do a video on writing a piece with the full blues form (intro/verse/chorus/verse/chorus/middle 8/chorus/outro = AA'BA'BCBB)'?

Great video. Wondering, do you always craft your compositions with a melody first and then harmonize?

@RyanLeach

8 ай бұрын

Usually but not always. And many times it's a few steps forward with melody, a few with harmony, back to melody etc

@nickmuzekari6124

8 ай бұрын

@@RyanLeach Got you, thanks 👍

How do you turn small ternary into an even bigger piece?

@gaopinghu7332

Жыл бұрын

Sorry if I'm late, but the Sonata form is a possibility. Inside the Score has got a great video about it

Hey Ryan! You're a great inspiration for me and all mountain bikers of my generation. Why did you quit?

@RyanLeach

Жыл бұрын

Maybe you are thinking of Ryan Leech with two "e"s

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7:57 doesn't it modulate to the key of Gm (ii)?

@RyanLeach

Жыл бұрын

Gm is the relative minor of Bb, so if you wanted to see it that way you could. But to my ear the Gm sounds like vi, and the half cadence in bar 17 has me expecting a resolution to Bb.

Just a question, if you are basing your B section on material from the A section wouldn't that be some sort of binary?

What function is Eb in D in Therion and Dbmaj in C in Ophelia? Does anybody know this or send me a Link to a video that explains those chords? Are those some kind of Substitute Dominants?

@RyanLeach

Жыл бұрын

Think of them both as bVI chords being borrowed from the parallel minor. Ophelia is in the key of F, so the parallel minor is F minor and Db is bVI. The Therion one is a bit more complex and I think would be even more confusing in a comment, I'd just say research modal interchange and borrowed chords

@flix9267

Жыл бұрын

@@RyanLeach Thanks a lot! 🙌

Where's the stem of the first note of Cyrus, the Scholer v19?

@RyanLeach

Жыл бұрын

yea that's weird

@colinliaubass1712

Жыл бұрын

@@RyanLeach is the first note of v19 of Cyrus, the Scholer supposed to be a whole note?

@RyanLeach

Жыл бұрын

It's a dotted quarter the stem just didn't render for some reason

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Depends: if you're Bach, you weave it into a timeless magnificent masterpiece; if you're not, you end up with something that's either extremely boring and repetitive, or something that's unconnected and awful to listen to.