Caller: 'when you ask me questions I can't and don't want to answer, you make me look like an idiot!'

Jose is a classic example of how it is impossible to win an argument against an idiot.

@jexelbur6872

5 күн бұрын

I would say people should ignore idiots, but plenty of idiots have control over people. So it may be nigh impossible to persuade an idiot, but don’t stop fighting for the educated people.

@AtheistsLustMetzitzah

5 күн бұрын

Supply a rational definition for the word female.

@joemillz10

5 күн бұрын

@@AtheistsLustMetzitzah Why? You people never except the scientific definition anyway. So I'll give you a nonscientific one. A female is someone that you'll never touch in your entire life. Well, not consensually anyway.

@beefusdoesstuff5194

5 күн бұрын

Likewise, they will interpret it as winning.

@wildmanfisher

5 күн бұрын

​@@AtheistsLustMetzitzah hoooooooo... bringing out the big guns

"I get how this works, I understand what you said" Narrator: "He in fact, did not."

45 Minutes = "Hey, this logical reasoning stuff is manipulative and unfair!"

@jesterc.6763

5 күн бұрын

Hahahaha. Its very ironic.

@theargonianmercenary184

21 сағат бұрын

“Manipulative and unfair”= things that don’t support the conclusion I want others to adopt unquestioningly.

Judge: "How do you plead?" Defendant: "Not guilty." Judge: "Fair enough...Case dismissed!"

The exact same people who always say “F your feelings” always insist that their feelings are valid evidence. Pathetic

@Aeroldoth3

5 күн бұрын

Yes, because it's F _YOUR_ feelings... never theirs.

When Dan asked Jose a question he STILL wouldn't answer the fing question.

Jose is unable to answer honestly. Squirming around, deflecting, misrepresenting.. Jose: YEAH, Pentecostals are ridiculous!! 😂

@MrCanis4

5 күн бұрын

If someone is asked a simple yes/no question over and over again, and they do not want to/can't give a direct answer. That's very stupid or dishonest.

@neverendingparty1534

5 күн бұрын

Unlike atheists, I have all the important "answers" or I wouldn't be here. Ask away...

@DiMadHatter

5 күн бұрын

@@neverendingparty1534 stfu neppy

@DeadlyAntelope

5 күн бұрын

@@neverendingparty1534 You should call the show show and give your "answers"

@oxidize11

5 күн бұрын

@@neverendingparty1534 you have no answers, just lies and assertions.

This caller has the brain of a child

@jesterc.6763

5 күн бұрын

A child is smarter than this guy.

@Leith_Crowther

5 күн бұрын

It’s not impossible that Jose WAS a child at the time of the call. Not like nine years old, sure, but maybe 14-17?

@AtheistsLustMetzitzah

5 күн бұрын

I bet he can supply a rational definition for the word female, can you

@Leith_Crowther

5 күн бұрын

@@AtheistsLustMetzitzahYou’re gonna have to be more specific. Do you mean phenotypical female? Genotypical female? Are you maybe conflating the concept of anatomical sex with the sociological concept of gender?

@andyh3065

5 күн бұрын

Please don’t insult a child’s intelligence.😂

Two kinds of Christians call this show: 1. Those who, when asked a simple question, just ignore the question because that question is not on the script they're following. 2. Those who, when asked a simple question, go silent while they try to figure out how the question might be a trap, then they avoid it and change the subject just in case.

@eccod

5 күн бұрын

There is a rare third type who listen to the hosts questions and respond honestly. What a shock, those calls don't get hostile.

@quecee

5 күн бұрын

Every question is a trap. For example, even a simple question, such as, "can a donkey talk?"

@tekbarrier

5 күн бұрын

3. Dave from California, who calls everything he doesn't agree with Science Fiction and then chuckles like a small child whenever he gets backed into a corner

@wesstubbs3472

5 күн бұрын

and the "You're sending innocent kids right into satan's arms!" kind.

@wesstubbs3472

5 күн бұрын

@@eccod Those would be the intelligent people. The ones' whose faith isn't threatened by the unambiguous fact that there is no proof of any gods' existence, and know that it's a commitment to faith, not reason. And I learned that in a Jesuit school.

A court case would be so simple in these people's worldview. The judge simply has to 'believe' that someone is guilty. Without any proof or explanation.

@einienj3281

5 күн бұрын

Or the judge and the jury just have to take the word of the defendant. 😂 POOF! ✨Crime doesn't exist anymore ✨

@vladtheemailer3223

5 күн бұрын

Under their form of morality, everyone already knows.

@gmswhackos2652

5 күн бұрын

Have you seen anything evolve? I have not so why would I believe it?

@sparki9085

5 күн бұрын

​@@gmswhackos2652incredible non sequitur that has nothing to do with OPs comment! Also, yes we have, and examples of it are really easy to find if ya Google it. But we have seen lots of bacteria evolve in many different ways, same thing with moths. Hell, dog breeding uses the same processes that evolution does, we just are making choices instead of nature selecting the most fit

@paffles6696

5 күн бұрын

@@gmswhackos2652 Yes, we see it all the time when animals with short lifespans mutate. Now, provide evidence of something that would prevent a creature from evolving over many generations. We'll wait.

Jose simply doesn't want to face the fact that his faith and his religion have no supporting evidence, so he special pleads because he really really really wants it to be true.

@ciararespect4296

5 күн бұрын

He very nearly slipped and tried to call himself a prophet at one time 😂. Because he's had a few "experiences" probably stoned 😂. He's really an adult frozen in an eight year olds mind

The reason so many religious people deflect questions like this is because they KNOW an honest answer will expose the weaknesses and contradictions in their beliefs and this scares the crap out of them.

I'm going to be dismissive and aggressive to adults who have an imaginary friend and their delusion is trying to force me to do/not do something.

@JimCastleberry

5 күн бұрын

What delusions? What are they forcing you to do? Do chemicals cause the correct delusions in your soulless sack of chemicals?

@neverendingparty1534

5 күн бұрын

Wrong. Nobody is trying to FORCE YOU to do anything and God gave you TEMPORARY free will to make your own decisions in the sliver of time you're here on earth. But there will be a "judgement Day" for all of us regarding the decisions you made while in the body. Your temporary free will expires at your last gasp on earth. And if you're not "born again," you will be sealed in your sin & you will go to hell for eternity. “You should not be surprised at my saying, ‘You must be born again.” - John 3:7

@clown134

5 күн бұрын

​@@neverendingparty1534I can't tell if this is satire or if you really don't get it

@marcusreading3783

5 күн бұрын

@@neverendingparty1534 Mate, threating someone to make the 'right' choice IS forcing their hand. Also, you really arent doing a good job of selling your psychopath of a Mob boss, as per usual.

@TheKosmikid

5 күн бұрын

@@neverendingparty1534are you a troll?

There is no ignorance like christian knowledge.

@Leith_Crowther

5 күн бұрын

CRUELTY IS JUSTICE FAITH IS KNOWLEDGE INNOCENCE IS SIN Holy Father is watching you.

@jesterc.6763

5 күн бұрын

@Leith_Crowther No, Ganesha is watching you. You're worshiping a false god. I have faith im right, and I have faith that your faith is wrong.

@finger3181

5 күн бұрын

Ooga booga

@Johnboy33545

2 күн бұрын

There's also Islamic knowledge.

@lawrence1318

Күн бұрын

Rather, it is you atheists who lack knowledge, and this by your own admission. We who know the Lord, know that you don't know Him, and we discuss this amongst ourselves. Essentially you are blind, and we see, and we see that you are blind, stumbling around in the dark wondering what it's all about and why you are here. We know what it's all about and why we are here. And we know Him who is read to judge the quick and the dead, and we know that if you go to your grave without Christ, you will be found wanting in the balance.

Dear Theists, You claim that Atheists are dismissive, but so far on this channel all you've presented are logical fallacies and petty insults. What evidence is there for us to accept?

@JimCastleberry

5 күн бұрын

You already lost the debates on evidence. You cannot defeat the evidence you dismiss. You just lie and run away. Then you gossip. Fine Tuning of the initial conditions (constants and quantities) of the Universe. Physical beginnings (KCA), Contingent existence (Leibniz), DNA digital information in nature driving radically complex, specifically ordered biological systems aimed at multiple higher-ordered third purpose utilities, free-will, intelligence in nature, consciousness, self-aware beings , Design and engineering in nature built upon a rational and mathematical order, NDE's, ubiquitous spiritual experience, historical evidence, objective moral values and duties (moral reality) etc etc are all evidence. No amount of evidence will ever convince an idjit

@neverendingparty1534

5 күн бұрын

We all notice that you can't take the lead and present any evidence for a Godless world. That's because there isn't any. Feel free to prove me wrong with evidence that is SCIENTIFICALLY DEMONSTRABLE IN REAL TIME.

@jonclark8252

5 күн бұрын

@@JimCastleberry "You already lost the debates on evidence." You have never once presented evidence proving your claims. "Fine Tuning of the initial conditions..." You've never even defined what you mean by "Fine Tuning of the initial conditions" let alone present evidence proving the claim. "You just lie and run away. " Every week you fail to show up to debate me live one during QC's live stream. Every week you know when and where to find me. How can I be running away when I'm standing still? "Then you gossip." Prove that I've ever said a single thing about you that wasn't true? Prove that I've ever told a lie ever in any KZread comment section ever. "Physical beginnings (KCA), Contingent existence (Leibniz), ...are all evidence." Nope those are all claims. Those are all claims that you've yet to even define, let alone present evidence to prove them. You rant and stomp your feet, but at the end of the day you are a coward who is just smart enough to know that you would only embarrass yourself if you ever showed up to QC's channel and debated me live one on one. "No amount of evidence will ever convince an idjit" You are living proof of that Little One.

@oxidize11

5 күн бұрын

@@gmswhackos2652 that was nothing but debunked arguments and the fallacy argument from ignorance while defining your god into existence. try again in a non-fallacious way.

@gmswhackos2652

5 күн бұрын

@@oxidize11 lol. more nonsense. Try again. Your entire statement is incoherent.

That’s not fair. Just because I’M deservingly smug and rightfully dismissive doesn’t mean all atheists are.

@mattwhite7287

4 күн бұрын

At this point i have heard every arguement for christianity specifically.. so.. me eyerolling by the end of their first sentence is simply muscle memory.

They're always so worried about the words you say meanwhile I'm worried they're going to take my rights and kill me if I don't believe in their God

@GothicKitty22

5 күн бұрын

💯

It is fascinating that a man who believes that the holy spirit tells him things says that believing someone to be a prophet is "crazy."

It is hard to think when you are not used to do it.

@AtheistsLustMetzitzah

5 күн бұрын

Speaking of which did you know that at a believing in God agnosticism and atheism only one of those positions do not require thinking and that's atheism.. Atheism is an unwillingness or inability to accept God. A rock could be considered an atheist because it doesn't have the willingness or ability to accept God

Am i smug? Nope Do I accept bs just because people claim it's a fact? Nope

@quecee

5 күн бұрын

You are NOT Smaug?

@joshsheridan9511

5 күн бұрын

@@quecee nope he was my dad 😁😁

@AtheistsLustMetzitzah

5 күн бұрын

Josh , I don't believe you prove me wrong. Is the following statement true or false. There's a female that works for the government and her name is Rachel Levine she had her name change from Richard Levine to Rachel Levine. Joshy is that statement true or false. If you say true it means you do accept bs claims as fact. There's no female working for the US government named Rachel Levine who was previously named Richard Levine.

Jose was the sort to give stupid answers and blame the person asking for it as if they made them do it.

This guy is so baffled by logic

Joze came to preach.

Jose has the kind of insecurity that comes from mundane stupidity...

@briaf3370

5 күн бұрын

Perfect candidate for religion

@AtheistsLustMetzitzah

5 күн бұрын

​@@briaf3370 Why especially religious people? It's not religious people who are cross-dressing and mutilating their children because somebody told them without a shred of physical evidence that their children have a brain that doesn't match their body, whatever that means.

@AtheistsLustMetzitzah

5 күн бұрын

Sounds more like you're describing the atheistic humanist LGBT community

@saicharand7765

5 күн бұрын

@@Andre-zw5kl Don’t feed the troll

@Andre-zw5kl

5 күн бұрын

​@@saicharand7765you're right man, my bad

Jim Castleberry and Neverending Fraud, for example, spam the same tired drivel time and time again, and can never substantively engage substantive responses. Dismissive responses to that are utterly warranted!

@damonkenny7818

5 күн бұрын

“Substantive” like your arguments that arguments are not actually arguments? As for your assertions you said: “Again, atheism is not the state of a God not existing” so anything you say is virtually meaningless, because you’re psychologically unable to think.

Hey Jose. Taking someone at their word does not work in a court of law. We do not convict "A" of murdering "B" because "C" says that "A" murdered "B". "C" must provide evidence (beyond the shadow of a reasonable doubt) that "A" murdered "B". If "A" states that they did not murder "B", we do not take "A" at his word and allow "A" to go free with presumed innocence. Accepting someone's word based on faith and gut feelings is not a path to determine truth. I hope you are never asked to serve on a jury.

@tekbarrier

5 күн бұрын

Normally that's true, but there have been plenty of cases of people sent to prison on nothing but eyewitness testimony. Earlier today I was reading about a guy named Darryl Howard, who spent 20 years in prison for a double murder he didn't commit. DNA evidence that would have shown he wasn't involved was deliberately suppressed by prosecutors. The whole case was eyewitness testimony and nothing else.

@alexhetherington8028

4 күн бұрын

When I did my jury service we ended up not convicting the accused because of lack of evidence. I personally am not sure whether they commited the crime or not

@chrisgraham2904

4 күн бұрын

@@alexhetherington8028 Exactly correct. If you lack the evidence for conviction and other possibilities inject a shadow doubt, then you must find the defendant No Guilty. You have not achieved an absolute decision that the accused is innocent, only that you cannot make a determination that the accused is guilty. The theist is not able to provide adequate evidence to prove that God is guilty of existing. The default for the atheist is to find God not guilty of existing....although the atheist can not find God to be innocent of existing either.

I genuinely don't understand how people could think like this?

@scrobag1

5 күн бұрын

no education monday to friday and indoctrination on sunday

@bazingaburg8264

5 күн бұрын

Culturally accepted and endorsed attribution of experiences/ bodily sensations to causes that have never been demonstrated. The rest is ingroup vs outgroup and reward vs punishment for adherence vs dissent. As angry as such a waste makes me, it's important to remember that people don't choose bad reasoning, nobody thinks better than they learned how to. Bad answers reached people before proper explananations did. Bring as much patience to the table as you can, you're gonna need it.

@AtheistsLustMetzitzah

5 күн бұрын

​@@scrobag1really, I didn't know the atheist humanist drag queen story hour events were on Sunday I thought they had him on Saturdays ,

@AtheistsLustMetzitzah

5 күн бұрын

​@@bazingaburg8264many things that haven't been demonstrated like the idea that life can pop into existence because of a non intelligent occurrence. The idea that people have ancestors that were sea creatures. In every atheist humanist favorite belief the idea that they and or their children were born with a brain that doesn't match their body.

@bazingaburg8264

5 күн бұрын

​@@AtheistsLustMetzitzah Aight, i'll take the evolution thing, then the trans thing. Does the gust of wind that moves the pebble that causes the landslide point to an agent with a goal in mind? Or are superstitious people just primed to attribute whatever to their frame of belief? We came from the ocean, like it or not. our recurring laryngeal nerve had a somewhat ideal distance to cross, way back when our ancestors were fish-ish. In people, you and i, the varus nerve, the 10th brain nerve, moves down to the heart and curves back up to the voicebox. That seems like crap wiring from a crap designer, but you haven't seen the half of it. Giraffes, yes, their long-ass neck Also only has 7 cervical vertebrae, makes the Same dumb-ass detour aaaaaaall the way down the neck and Back up to the voicebox. Evolution is a mindless tinkerer, not a purposeful designer. The moment you manage to grapple with that, i won't have to refute ignorance that engenders parental concern more than anything. Now, feel free to enter your grand finale of ignorance about trans-people, i am ready. Surely, whatever ammunition you have left couldn't possibly be as embarressing as the tuchus you've exposed so far. Grow a spine and stand by your shame.

He twists and turns like a twisty-turny thing.

@ookekklibarianbornagain6708

5 күн бұрын

I say you're a weedy pigeon, and you can call me 'Susan' if it isn't so!"🤣

This dude is so afraid of "being wrong" that he takes anything less than endorsement as adversary

If theists want us to not be dismissive, they should stop asking such dumb questions and making such specious arguments.

“If someone agreed with me then I’d believe what they said.” -caller

There's always going to be a problem between a person with a faith based perception and someone who uses critical thinking as a weapon.

Wow. "Jose" asking the hosts to talk to him like he's a child. Sad.

As I was never pressured into believing things that cannot be demonstrated to be true, I consider myself at liberty to question the validity of claims that cannot be demonstrated to be true. To make matters worse for the claimant, even real experiences can be assumed to fit with beliefs that cannot be demonstrated to be true.

@brantsonoverton1367

5 күн бұрын

So humans did come from soup? I can prove God in a variety of ways, while at the same time, you have no rational atheist explanation for reality. So you lose out of the gate. God is easily proved. Romans 1:20 declares that God is proved by his creation, so I'll prove creation. Can you point to anything that can't be counted, measured & had no beginning or end (INFINITE)? No, you can't. EVERYTHING in this FINITE universe can be counted, measured & has a beginning and an eventual end. That means it was created; thus, "natural causes" don't exist. Nature can't be the "cause" of anything, because DYING/FINITE NATURE (time/space/matter/energy) was created/designed from nothing by God. And ALL MATTER doesn’t do nothing but dissipate over time - LOSING INFORMATION. That’s why you never observe any GAIN OF NEW INFORMATION (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, star formation, evolution), because it doesn’t exist, can’t exist & never will exist. TO FURTHER PROVE GOD; if it can be "counted or measured" it's a DYING/FINITE (having a beginning & an eventual END/death) entity that has a cause. Then, we simply ascertain what RATIONAL POSSIBLE cause has LIFE, INTELLIGENCE, LOVE, CONSCIOUSNESS & MORALITY to give and the INTELLIGENCE, POWER, PURPOSE, RESOURCES & MEANS to give it. No atheist cause (e.g. nothing, star dust, moist rocks, mud puddles, primordial soup) fits the bill. This SCIENCE points to God and nothing else. God proved/Atheism debunked. P.S. - More evidence for God is that no atheist on the face of this earth has a RATIONAL/POSSIBLE, step-by-step atheist explanation for reality. They should SHUT DOWN THIS CHANNEL until they do have a RATIONAL/POSSIBLE, step-by-step atheist explanation for reality. The asinine, lost & clueless religious cult of atheism is INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS. It’s time to dump your atheist cult, but you have to want to do it. Everybody desperately clings to the atheist cult out of tragedy or wanting to take the path of least resistance & rebel against their creator for the gift of life given them. They simply don’t want to pay the price. They expect “A FREE LUNCH” when life itself teaches you that “THERE’S NO FREE LUNCH!” But we have to pay the price for anything that has value. It’s time you say “yes” to Jesus. I’ll help you.

@ookekklibarianbornagain6708

5 күн бұрын

@@brantsonoverton1367 Are you ever going to provide verifiable/repeatable evidence that supports you claim? "Hell is in the center of the earth. volcanoes happen to make more room in hell for sinners."

@ookekklibarianbornagain6708

5 күн бұрын

Well said 🍻

“The truth of a proposition has nothing to do with its credibility, and vice versa.” - Robert A. Heinlein

"You dont talk like a normal person." Yeah, because this isnt a normal conversation. When you're having an intellectual conversation, you're not always speaking about normal topics, so you won't always be speaking as you would in a casual conversation. This topic is about logic and epistemology, and those require thought and insight. You're also going to be challenged. That is not typical of a casual conversation with your friends.

@SteelSquishy

5 күн бұрын

The average person is an idiot

@twowardrobeswardrobes1536

5 күн бұрын

People don’t tend to bring up the existence of invisible sky fairies in everyday conversation.

@benjaminmadrigalperez9010

5 күн бұрын

What he meant was "You don't let yourself being manipulated". He is used to the church's teachings being accepted and never challanged, so when they are he doesn't know how to react.

@Mewse1203

5 күн бұрын

@benjaminmadrigalperez9010 I almost wrote something very similar to this, but I decided to take it a different way. Very often when theists say something like "you don't understand" or "you take it out of context" what they're really saying is exactly what you're saying they, "you won't let me manipulate you" or "why won't you accept the apologetic spin my pastor told me." They legitimately don't understand how you can not accept their "logic" they don't like the pain of the cognitive dissonance you force them into

Claims made without evidence can and should be dismissed without evidence. If everyone dismisses your claims, maybe you should evaluate your reasons for making them.

@finger3181

5 күн бұрын

There's no maybe about it. unfortunately, childhood indoctrination is a tough cage to break free from.

I’m not afraid of Chucky, Voldemort or Vampires - but I am also equally unafraid of the Devil or hell. I am afraid of religious extremists forcing us all to play make believe with them.

Dan's example was spot on: You watch a scary movie, and you think someone is at the door. Jose not only repeatedly 'watches Chucky movies" but is regularly reinforced that "chucky is real" by many around him who also claim the things he feels is the presents of Chucky - who no one ever sees (replace Chucky with any invisible religious claim). Some are even in one or another echo chamber since birth.

I'm only 10mins in and feel like it's been an hour. Jose is so unbelievably whiny

Every caller seems to be a contestant in a contest to find out who is the dumbest.

@ookekklibarianbornagain6708

Күн бұрын

🤣👍

Of course we are dismissive. Claims made without evidence are dismissed automatically.

fuck'n Matt is good

14:20 HE ANSWERED A QUESTION!!!!!

@MrCanis4

5 күн бұрын

finally

@burningmisery

5 күн бұрын

Barely!😂

@Malumen

3 күн бұрын

Should be pinned comment TBH

I talked to the Holy Spirit the other day, but He hung up on me.

@mistylover7398

5 күн бұрын

🫳☎️🔊👻🚫

@scotttchviski6706

5 күн бұрын

I've called lots of times - the Holy Spirit never answers. At least you got it to pick up.

@stevesheppardmusic

5 күн бұрын

​@@scotttchviski6706thing is though his call reached the Holy Spirit call centre. "Thank you for your call, it is important to us. I'm afraid there is no one here to take your call at the moment, but please leave your prayers after the tone and we will ignore them as usual"

9:00 "speaking in tongues is crazy" . EVERY dumb Xtian: "Those" other Xtians are crazy ... But, my preferred Denomination is the REAL one. LOLZ

I am only dismissive when the situation warrants, I hope!

“You’re just dismissive...” he said dismissively. “Speaking in tongues is just crazy!!” he said dismissively.

We dismiss BS. Period. And José does not look like an idiot. …he IS one.

The other day I had someone accuse me of being dismissive. I told them to eff off and walked away.

He has no idea what dismissive is, because I am now many layers deep into the dismissive of fairytales. The progress of my perspective went: - Religions ~1990s-2003 - Cults 2003-2015 - Mythologies 2015-2023 - Conspiracy Theories 2023-now When I realized they have more in common with conspiracy theorists than any other group in our society, it was mind-blowing. Ended up writing down every trait of a conspiracy theorists, and almost every single one was a match, and not all conspiracy theory groups even match up as well. That pretty much sums it up.

Somewhere around 19 minutes in, I'm liking what's being pursued. The caller's point seems to be that he affirms the direct experience of the holy spirit, and that atheists deny what he has experienced. The hosts are trying to explain that these feelings aren't reliable. The caller is defensive because feelings are feelings and intellectual challenges aren't feelings. The caller isn't prepared to engage in this discussion: he is easily confused. He believes because he and millions of others feel something. Thinking has nothing to do with it.

Guess what, Jose? Your beliefs are completely ridiculous!

"I think I saw a thing, but I'm not sure what thing I thought I saw"

The opportunity to debate me live this Saturday one on one is fast approaching. As usual Pizza Cutter the Purple Space Penguin, and My Little Sock-Puppet have both chickened out. Will YOU join them as cowards for your contrived creator?

@quecee

5 күн бұрын

Who would ever believe their lies that they've already have had debates and, surprise, surprise, they won ALL their debates! Why don't they just admit that they count KZread comments as debates and they win by just saying they won?

@AtheistsLustMetzitzah

5 күн бұрын

Quecee is this another one of your tags, are you pretending to be somebody else, again. Can we debate about metzitzah jobs and how it's causing so many baby boys to die from complications due to herpes. And discuss some of the passages from the Talmud and how it requires its followers to force non followers of the Talmud into atheism. My guess is you don't want to talk about these things because you don't want to expose your own culture custom traditions and laws. PS why do you ban people from your thread and then talk about them. If you're going to talk s*** about them on your thread give them the opportunity to defend themselves. You know how you have a history of lying straw Manning and quoting people out of context. I caught you countless times doing this..

@AtheistsLustMetzitzah

5 күн бұрын

​@@queceelol lol lol lol lol lol. I was just asking the op if he is really quecee using another account.. and guess who I see on the thread responding to the op it's quecee lol . I don't know if this is another one of your accounts like beacon80 and diviance but it sure looks suspicious

@AtheistsLustMetzitzah

5 күн бұрын

​@@queceePS I keep telling you you're not going to grow your channel because you're a known liar, you constantly straw man and you constantly quote people out of context . You ignore arguments that don't fit your narrative.. Look at how well shows like CNN are doing now because of all the straw Manning, quotes out of context and lies. Work on your moral character before you think of doing a live stream.

@ookekklibarianbornagain6708

5 күн бұрын

Jon, I will be there and thanks to getting the right meds, I will be able to speak without choking. Oh and if Brad smith1295 turns up, I'm going to need him to define just what he believe a "civil conversation" is, because I find it fecking hard not to swear.

This seems to be a constant tactic of believers in the process of trying to defend their beliefs by deflecting the questions to other inappropriate responses ! And it is frustrating to deal with these dishonest apologists when they deflect in such manners !

Has he not seen the show before, he got absolutely mauled.

It's baffling to me how many callers can't/ won't answer simple questions

@ibisiglesias6906

3 сағат бұрын

It baffles my mind even to this day...😂👌💯

Boohoo! Poor little victim Jose!

Faith is just believing in yourself, why add a middle man to that?

@neverendingparty1534

5 күн бұрын

Wrong. The flesh is full of nothing but failure. That's why we need a savior to change us into a person that is worthy to approach God the Father.

@clown134

5 күн бұрын

​@@neverendingparty1534but there's no evidence of this savior character

@asyetundetermined

5 күн бұрын

@@neverendingparty1534while we can all agree you have failed in some fundamental sense, it’s an odd observation to then apply to all around you. This is also an exceptionally arrogant and egotistical take. A little humility and some honest self-reflection would probably work wonders for you. Just a suggestion, you’re obviously free to take it or leave it.

@neverendingparty1534

5 күн бұрын

@@clown134 STOP w/ your stupidity. Jesus did/does exist. Keep in mind that Jesus was considered a rogue of society. An outcast of not only the church, but the community. "CRUCIFY HIM!" they shouted. I doubt the NYTimes of the time would publish an article about him. There’s just as much evidence of Jesus as there is evidence for anything else of that time. Virtually all modern scholars of antiquity agree that Jesus existed historically and historians consider the Synoptic Gospels (Matthew, Mark and Luke) to be the best sources for investigating the historical Jesus. Most scholars agree that Jesus was a Galilean, Jewish rabbi who preached his message orally, was baptized by John the Baptist, and was crucified by the order of the Roman Prefect Pontius Pilate. “Jesus did exist, whether we like it or not.” - Bart Ehrman, New Testament ATHEIST scholar - University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. “That he was crucified is as sure as anything historical can ever be, since both Josephus and Tacitus... agree with the Christian accounts on at least that basic fact." - John Dominic, N.T. Scholar "There is no scholar in any college or university in the western world who teaches classics, ancient history, new testament, early Christianity, any related field who doubts that Jesus existed.” - Bart Ehrman, New Testament ATHEIST scholar - University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. Historian Gary Habermas lists 39 ancient sources for Jesus, from which he enumerates more than 100 reported facts about his life, teachings, crucifiction and resurrection. In fact, the historical evidence for the execution of Jesus is so strong that one of the most famous New Testament scholars in the world - Gerd Ludemann of Germany (atheist), said “Jesus’ death as a consequence of crucifixion is indisputable.” Denying the existence of Jesus doesn’t make it go away; it only proves that no amount of evidence will convince you.

@neverendingparty1534

5 күн бұрын

@@asyetundetermined Son, this is a war zone and I don't take prisoners. As an atheist, you have nothing to bring to the debate table, because NOTHING you believe in has ever been SCIENTIFICALLY DEMONSTRATED IN REAL TIME (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, new anatomy differing from ancestry/evolution). I've been doing this for 50 yrs, so you stand no chance against me. You can't even lead, because you have nothing to present and you never will have something of the atheist cult to present, because NO IDEA of the asinine atheist cult can be SCIENTIFICALLY OBSERVED IN REAL TIME (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, new anatomy differing from ancestry/evolution).

"The power of faith" is not the faith itself, but the self deception to accept faith as a valid way to truth. So really it's not even a power, but a huge weakness, as demonstrated all too often on this and other shows! Showing power is to reject faith based belief, no matter who is urging you to it, and showing you can think for yourself, rationally, logically, and within the confines of known truth and reality!

Meanwhile we have theist stalkers who obsess over attention on every video who admit they know their god claims aren’t true but still come to vent with childish insults and scripts meant to obfuscate the truth. Just ask a basic question of “how do we know what you say is true” or “how do we know your god is real and others aren’t” and their main response is to lie about your position. “You have to prove everything created itself” when that’s not what anyone says. Except other theists.

@mistylover7398

5 күн бұрын

Religious decepticons believers

Love how they twist their ideas for their imaginary friend 😂😂😂😂😂

@brantsonoverton1367

5 күн бұрын

God is easily proved. Romans 1:20 declares that God is proved by his creation, so I'll prove creation. Can you point to anything that can't be counted, measured & had no beginning or end (INFINITE)? No, you can't. EVERYTHING in this FINITE universe can be counted, measured & has a beginning and an eventual end. That means it was created; thus, "natural causes" don't exist. Nature can't be the "cause" of anything, because DYING/FINITE NATURE (time/space/matter/energy) was created/designed from nothing by God. And ALL MATTER doesn’t do nothing but dissipate over time - LOSING INFORMATION. That’s why you never observe any GAIN OF NEW INFORMATION (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, star formation, evolution), because it doesn’t exist, can’t exist & never will exist. TO FURTHER PROVE GOD; if it can be "counted or measured" it's a DYING/FINITE (having a beginning & an eventual END/death) entity that has a cause. Then, we simply ascertain what RATIONAL POSSIBLE cause has LIFE, INTELLIGENCE, LOVE, CONSCIOUSNESS & MORALITY to give and the INTELLIGENCE, POWER, PURPOSE, RESOURCES & MEANS to give it. No atheist cause (e.g. nothing, star dust, moist rocks, mud puddles, primordial soup) fits the bill. This SCIENCE points to God and nothing else. God proved/Atheism debunked. P.S. - More evidence for God is that no atheist on the face of this earth has a RATIONAL/POSSIBLE, step-by-step atheist explanation for reality. They should SHUT DOWN THIS CHANNEL until they do have a RATIONAL/POSSIBLE, step-by-step atheist explanation for reality. The asinine, lost & clueless religious cult of atheism is INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS. It’s time to dump your atheist cult, but you have to want to do it. Everybody desperately clings to the atheist cult out of tragedy or wanting to take the path of least resistance & rebel against their creator for the gift of life given them. They simply don’t want to pay the price. They expect “A FREE LUNCH” when life itself teaches you that “THERE’S NO FREE LUNCH!” But we have to pay the price for anything that has value. It’s time you say “yes” to Jesus. I’ll help you.

@mistylover7398

5 күн бұрын

Religious decepticons

Am I afraid of Chucky or vampires? Not right now, no. But if you tell me the right story in the right way, I can psych myself out and be scared of something like Chucky or vampires for a while. When I went to see the Blair Witch Project, it was the last showing of the night. The parking structure where my car was had been pretty much emptied out. And I rushed real fast to get to my car. While I knew in my head that it wasn't a real story, I was still in a state of mind to be frightened. When I was a kid, I watched the Exorcist on TV. That means it was the edited version. But I was alone in the house and when my parents came home from their night out (Gen Xers unite!) they sent me to bed. The problem was it was right at the part where they were going up to do the exorcism. So, I never got to see the ending of the movie. I spent all night freaking out about every stray noise and light that went across my window. My brain was trying to figure out how to end the story and was going in nightmarish directions. I had nightmares all night. So yeah, I just might be scared of Chucky and vampires if you do it right and I'm in the right frame of mind. How is a claim of experiencing god or the holy spirit any different?

Love the way he dismisses Pentecostal beliefs as ridiculous but fails to see how that equally applies to his own beliefs

As I get older, I realize these old sayings are more right than not, “You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make a drink “ Did I mention the horse was a bartender?

@williamcreighton1417

5 күн бұрын

The saying is.....you can take a horse to water but a pencil has to be lead...😂

@twowardrobeswardrobes1536

5 күн бұрын

My grandad used to say “You can lead a horse to water and, sometimes, they p!ss in it”

@topherkingz8546

5 күн бұрын

"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink." That's how the saying actually goes haha.

@finger3181

5 күн бұрын

I always use, 'you can lead a horse to water, but you can't stop it being a fucking idiot'

@ookekklibarianbornagain6708

5 күн бұрын

Mt stepfather used “You can lead a horse to water, but make bloody sure you drink first" It makes sense if you're an Aussie.

Jose can not understand critical thinking.

@scotttchviski6706

5 күн бұрын

You could probably have left out the word 'critical'.

@marquellblack9374

5 күн бұрын

@@scotttchviski6706 🤣🤣🤣

@ookekklibarianbornagain6708

5 күн бұрын

@@scotttchviski6706 👍🍻

19:35 This is one of the things that lead me away from religion. I was told that the euphoric goosebump feeling was the Holy Spirit, and then I would get that feeling listening to certain secular music.

@babs_babs

5 күн бұрын

one of the reasons i hate christian music as a nonbeliever and musician is because of how obviously manipulative it is. there’s a lot of cheap tricks they use to evoke certain emotions in their audience.

13:20 It's like talking to Will Farrell in Elf when he gets into the city for the first time. 😂😂😂

Magical Thinking 101

How do you tell someone their beliefs are stupid without telling them they are stupid when they can’t separate what they believe from who they are?

he avoids saying the word 'evidence' because he knows full well his silly emotional crutch and feeling of being special cannot hold up to any proper scrutiny

See now....@ age 19, I got the Baptism Of The Holy Ghost(the terms I used then)...and wow... what a glorious experience that was. Nobody then could have convinced me I didn't have a very intimate God experience......alas`.... fast forward 30 years later.....and what a paradigm shift indeed. You can never ever trust a personal experience. I know now that was just me wanting o so bad to feel something everyone around me was assuring would occur...if I just let go and open my mind. Twas the last time I ever let myself get hoodwinked in that way. And, it's REALLY fucking obvious to me now, what fucking happened. 😇 ....ah.... but it 'twas glorious indeed! that warm fuzzy feeling...spewing out mumbo jumbo I thought was some heavenly language....felt heavenly great indeed. The human brain is indeed a powerful factory of chemical reactions.

I also have had pastors explain to me what they have experienced, and its supernatural mumbo jumbo with no bssis in fact or truth. I guess Jose would accept such in faith. Religion is no pathway to truth.

You're GD right I'm ruthlessly dismissive of fools. Whatcha gonna do about it, Pilgrim? 😂

If we appear dismissive, it's because we're right.

@deepsmoo8955

4 күн бұрын

Right about what?

@byteme9718

4 күн бұрын

@@deepsmoo8955 You're dismissed.

@deepsmoo8955

3 күн бұрын

@@byteme9718 Why? It was a simple question, how does being an atheist make you inherently correct about anything?

I think the first guy is mark from Austin stone church

Ask this guy if he would go on a plane that has never been tested or just go because he believes it should be ok.

Jose is not equipped to justify his beliefs

So nice to see a fresh faced Dan… 💕

@JimCastleberry is intellectually weak and lazy, providing no evidence for his fairytale beliefs. And he's so afraid that he refuses to even speak with an atheist. The problem being that he knows how he will be humiliated in a real debate.😂

@damonkenny7818

5 күн бұрын

Run back to your “Circus of Lies” run away

@quecee

5 күн бұрын

It's funny when these cowards run away from any and all actual discussions but claim others run away.🤣🤣🤣 Are they just completely unaware of what they are saying?

@joemiller7082

5 күн бұрын

Why do you bring that guy up over and over? Lol.

@brantsonoverton1367

5 күн бұрын

@@quecee There's nothing of the atheist cult to run away from, because NONE OF IT can be observed or even proved in REAL TIME. Big bang? No, the big bang never happened UNLESS trillions of stars, planets, moons, the human being and 10 million DIFFERENT animals fit into a dot smaller than a proton. Face the facts: All anybody has ever seen is the expanding universe. The rest is desperate guessing. And to comment on any events before that is irresponsible guessing. It would be a SUPERNATURAL MIRACLE for that "dot" to expand into EVERYTHING. The big bang idea is total insanity. FURTHERMORE, that dot would have 900 trillion degrees of heat - containing the heat of trillions of stars. It would be a SUPERNATURAL EVENT if it happened, as the 1st and 2nd laws would be violated. The big bang farce is the largest irresponsible idea in world history and BY FAR the most asinine. Evolution? No. There's no such thing as new anatomy differing from ancestry EVER! If it's not OBSERVED IN REAL TIME then it's not science and NOTHING of the asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, new anatomy differing from ancestry/evolution) is OBSERVED IN REAL TIME like TRUE NATURE (e.g. flower bloom, reproduction, photosynthesis, digestion, respiration, top down production, gravity, sunshine) is OBSERVED IN REAL TIME. Try to learn.

@brantsonoverton1367

5 күн бұрын

@@joemiller7082 Because I destroy him w/ my every comment. For me to comment is for him to lose. But it's that way w/ me against any atheist. I've been here 11 yrs and I own the place.

when he said it was no way to tell if someone hear the holy spirit or if they are lying, it was over for him.

Dismissive...no we're not....NEXT! LOL

I am saddened that this caller is banned. This was a perfect call for teaching, and I wish he'd call back.

@SalK-LS

5 күн бұрын

I agree... It was a very good call in many ways.

“I know what will spread the light of Jesus: acting like a sniveling coward!”

This is a classic case of being caught in an infinite loop. -Why do you think it was the Holy Spirit? -Because I felt it. -But WHY do you think it was the Holy Spirit?? …. Etc etc etc

"sorry you're breaking up" *talks slowly This dude was frustrating to listen to, I can't imagine talking to him.

So dismissive of Hezekiah's tunnel that clearly proves god!1!!1!11!1!1 /s

To sum this up "It does NOT necessarily need to be true if believing it gives me some perceived benefit" (Reference: Low Bar WLC).

This caller keeps changing the questions he's asked to fit his narrative... Just answer with a little honesty... Goodbye fool...

I think the best way to get the message across to him would have been to have him describe the actually feeling WITHOUT letting him say what caused it. For example, “I felt a warmth that started near my heart and then over the next 30 seconds it radiated outwards until it encompasses my entire body and then I felt a sense of euphoria” - and totally accept the fact that he had that experience - and then separately, ask him “and what do you think caused it”. -‘D dispute that. The way the call actually went, I don’t think the caller had the abilities to separate the feeling from the source he ascribed it. It was all one thing, “The Holy Spirit entered my body” 🙄 Forcing him to separate the feeling from the cause may have flowed better into “I experienced that too and thought the same thing, but then years later, I felt it again from sex or drugs or listening to music - and realized I was wrong”

the real deal starts with the f bombs at 4 :44

You can't reason with the unreasonable.

"I have faith the yellow stoplight light will turn red and not go back to green, so I stop"

@cassievining340

4 күн бұрын

That’s not faith. You’ve experienced that process countless times over the years, and it never changes. You know it will turn red because that’s what it’s designed to do to control traffic and based on all prior experience, it has followed that pattern. You have no reason to not have reasonable confidence that it will follow the pattern.

@monorail4252

3 күн бұрын

@cassievining340 Isn't that same reason you have faith in your wife not to cheat? Or does faith mean you hope your prayer gets answered and when it might be means your faith is confirmed?

@cassievining340

3 күн бұрын

@@monorail4252 no. We understand the mechanics of how a traffic light works, the reason of why it’s programmed to work that way, and what the different color signals communicate to is in traffic. It’s the same for everyone and, short of a glitch, that’s how it works. We don’t need faith when we have seen it work that way every time throughout our lives, learned the why and what in relation to driving, and use it once we become drivers and can consistently rely upon it. As far as a spouse, I suppose that slips into its own category. It’s not the same kind of faith as believing in a god. Your spouse is very tangible and present and you can interact with them. You can build a life with them, a family, become part of their family and they a part of yours. As far as cheating, the confidence you have in each other depends on the strength of your relationship and bond. And that either strengthens or weakens with time and you might become suspect of their loyalty. Otherwise, if you have no reason to doubt or even think about it, your faith in your spouse might be high based on all experiences. It can be called faith because you can’t possibly know all the truth, but you have a good read on it and believe in your spouse.

I was waiting for it, and he gave me not just one, but both of the most common cop out, useless, deflecting phrases used by ppl who are not so bright and don't really have much knowledge of what they're arguing about. First was 'not necessarily', then 'it depends'. Once I hear those, I pretty much know the discussion/debate w/ that person is done. That just shows they don't know how to form good arguments and they have little if any actual substantive information/evidence to support their point.

@hayuseen6683

Күн бұрын

Please explain how those are bad conditions as they seem to indicate context sensitive answers?

17:09 Jose: "They're unreliable [ie. feelings] when you don't know for sure what you're experiencing." What a laughable comment! How can you ever reliably know when you know for sure vs. when you don't know for sure?

“Hello? . . . Jose, are you still there? . . . No, because god got so embarrassed with his performance that he broke the connection!

Jose loves to play the victim, and he’s very skilled at it.

Saying the power of faith is like saying the power of make-believe