If God exist, he is doing such a bad job

@moon_wobble7782

Ай бұрын

The all powerful, all knowing being, lets people of all faiths, and interpretations of those faiths, speak on his behalf. Even the a-holes who spew hatred, without lifting a finger to say “no way, dude”

@r.o.1330

Ай бұрын

.....total fail.

@aubreyleonae4108

Ай бұрын

He'd a been fired from a government job.

@lukmaes6290

Ай бұрын

Indeed, been a paediatric oncologist for 35 yrs and seeing kids die of cancer .......

@steveyuhas9278

Ай бұрын

At the very least, he's really letting his followers embarrass themselves. Maybe there's actually an asshole trickster god who doesn't want us to know and spends all day recruiting and then setting his followers up to be absolutely embarrassed. That's about the only case I would even begin to consider after hearing Josh speak.

Why is this so hard for theists to understand: Default position is to not believe in anything until sufficient evidence warrants belief.

@Jcs57

Ай бұрын

I would be curious to see his evidence that all the gods he does not believe in don’t exist. They never follow their own reasoning to the eventual conclusions.

@stephenholmgren405

Ай бұрын

Religious indoctrination is very effective

@Juggalorazzy

Ай бұрын

@@Jcs57 let me guess. "The bible says its god is the only true god". boom🙃

@MarkoVukovic0

Ай бұрын

They can't understand because they are brainwashed and blinkered. They have been conditioned since birth to blind faith over logic and reason.

@Woreyel

Ай бұрын

Is that absolutely true?? If yes, where do you get absolute truth from in your worldview?

Absence of intelligence in this particular Josh, does not mean there is an abscence of intelligence in all other Josh's.

@dylanjones268

Ай бұрын

Josh is indoctrinated, you can tell because he refuses to doubt and only wants to win. It can be frustrating to deal with a person like that but by insulting them, it actually has a negative impact. Since the whole purpose of this show is to shed some light for those who would otherwise never get to even have a hint of it, insulting them just reinforces the idea that Atheists are just demons trying to engulf the world in wickedness. I understand the frustration with this type of believer but if you can rise above that nastiness, it might make this whole movement much faster. Not all believers are stupid or choosing to ignore things so that they can remain believers.. a good majority of them are just lacking the knowledge needed to properly fight against this sort of ignorance. Fight the subject, not the one talking about it.

@Tuna_2014

Ай бұрын

Do you mean that naming something Josh automatically makes something stupid is a stupid thing to say? If so then that's correct, but I do have this joke where I pretend to think that naming something or someone Alex gives that thing divine power and makes it basically a parody of Jesus (this is related to the fact that Alex is a fairly popular name in fictional stories, and I used to have a character named Alex that was basically supposed to save the universe or something). I haven't done jokes like that a lot recently, but I might bring jokes about giving something or someone specific names gives them specific traits back.

@Ghalaghor_McAllistor

Ай бұрын

We reject this Josh from the council of Josh's. He won't be allowed to participate in any future Josh fights.

@louistournas120

Ай бұрын

​@@dylanjones268 The probability of a theist changing their minds are pretty slim. I have probably talked to over 300 theists, mostly christian, over the years. The goal is not to educate them or change their mind. I do it bc it is something that I enjoy. They never ask me how lightning works, They ask me how abiogenesis works. I tell them we don't know and when there is a gap in our knowledge, feel free to insert god, because that is the purpose of god. Or wait until a scientific answer develops. It is a very popular question with theists. How did it go from non-life to life? How did this universe come with these physical laws? They simply don't understand the scientific process of discovery.

@guytheincognito4186

Ай бұрын

​@@Tuna_2014 I do a similar thing with Steve. Was there ever a historical Steve in staten Island" asked 200+ years in the future. Yoshua_Joshua is equivalently mundane then and there as Steve is to the modern age. Even that list the Roman captain had over crucifixion had joshua Plural on it. Not some later Roman rebranding. 😂

You cant use facts and logic to change someones opinion if they didnt use facts and logic to form that opinion.

@EchoChamberDweller

Ай бұрын

By using that fictional illogic, I would conclude that I can’t convince you that your statement was self-referential and therefore fictional and illogical because of how it’s fictional and illogical.

@djehutisundaka7998

Ай бұрын

However, if they thought that they had facts and logic to have formed their opinion, you can present them with information that shows that they didn't.

@EchoChamberDweller

Ай бұрын

@@djehutisundaka7998 Not effectively, because, even when “facts” change over, and over, and over again as our understanding of the world grows and changes, we can’t convince them that what they see as ‘facts’ are actually well-formed conclusory opinions about tangible evidence. We call these well formed opinions science, and it is an effective way of understanding how the world around us works. What we determine to be true or false doesn’t automatically have any relevance to the truth. You can come up with something that is true even if your knowledge is based on a lie. Unfortunately, some people try to unscientifically appropriate what they have determined to be true to make vast assumptions and generalizations about truth itself. When societal convention dictates what is true is the truth, we get dogma. And that’s how we got The Atheist Experience

@samtorres9949

Ай бұрын

​@djehutisundaka7998 Which they would completely ignore because...."faith"

@samtorres9949

Ай бұрын

​@@EchoChamberDwellerAnd here's one of those illogical fact deficient sheep now.

Xtians: EVERYTHING and EVERYONE needs a "creator" Xtians: EXCEPT, our personal invisible sky daddy is MAGICALLY EXEMPT from the laws of Physics or Chemistry or Biology. He can do MAGIC TRICKS. . LOLZ

@kelvintonblortsmon2457

Ай бұрын

Wisest people on earth (Christians): EVERYTHING and EVERYONE needs a "creator." Dumbest people period (atheists): EXCEPT the invisible sky daddy - MAGICALLY EXEMPT from the laws of Physics or Chemistry or Biology. He can do MAGIC TRICKS. Wisest people on earth (Christians): Are you really this stupid? Since TIME had a beginning, the rest of FINITE NATURE (space/matter/energy) also had a beginning and also a BEGINNER and that BEGINNER is required to be INFINITE/ETERNAL/SUPERNATURAL. And since this BEGINNER brought TIME/space/matter/energy into existence, this BEGINNER is required to be uncaused, beginningless, changeless, immaterial, timeless, spaceless and enormously powerful. Oh btw, the DIVINE POWER of God is mentioned throughout the Bible. “Magic” doesn’t exist and the CREATOR is not part of his CREATION. Being that the CREATOR produced CREATION, there was a point where they didn’t exist together. There, now you’re not quite as dumb.

@louistournas120

Ай бұрын

In other words, nature has created some infinitely complex machine called a god. If they were to claim that this guy over time, was formed and over time, developed itself, learned new things. That would make more sense.

@neicu34

Ай бұрын

@@louistournas120 Well, they think that there was no nature to create him, as nothing existed before god did, according to them.

@kriss3d

Ай бұрын

"Something can't come from nothing" well except when God does it then it's fine because magic.. Yeah.

@TheMargarita1948

Ай бұрын

Why is that so hard for some people to understand?

Ah, yes, the Argument from Ignorance fallacy, which can be summarized as "No one knows X, therefore I know X."

@gknight4719

Ай бұрын

YES, that's how religion works

@dx1450

Ай бұрын

"We don't know X, therefore God."

@gknight4719

Ай бұрын

@@dx1450 Why do many humans do this, is it because they fear death or are just greedy for a theme park in the sky? (heaven) run by a psychopathic god??

@Chocomunchie

Ай бұрын

It's the good ol' God-of-the-Gaps argument. "No information available? God done it." It's okay to just say "we don't know" sometimes, which is something they just don't get. It's a safer alternative than "a very specific god did it".

@gknight4719

Ай бұрын

@@Chocomunchie I guess many humans fear death or the unknown, so its very comforting to have a loving father (god) to care for you. But the one in the bible is clearly not THAT, it will put you in hell if you do not kiss its ass.

I find it absolutely astonishing that Christians (not limited to) phones up with the same basic questions and the belief they have the ultimate rebuttals, they never do. It just a matter of time the team gives them.

Anyone wishing to make a reasonable case that it is irrational to not believe in any deity (whether you call it God, G-D, Allah, Krishna, etc etc) must prove the existence of said deity beyond a reasonable doubt.

@jerrycallender-qm7zr

Ай бұрын

I'm with you.

@kohnfutner9637

Ай бұрын

Must one prove Truth exist?

@TheFinalFanboy

Ай бұрын

@@kohnfutner9637 "A deity" and "truth" are not the same thing.

@georgeaguilar6996

Ай бұрын

No evidence for the wicked, sorry man. 🤷

@dawkins5824

Ай бұрын

You haven't proved your chemical oblivion. You throw away a reasonable explanation for accidental lunacy!

I had a 17 minute flashback to college debate club. It was depressing then, and it’s depressing now.

I swear, callers like this are the most painful to listen to because they always seem to have their goalposts on wheels. They try their best to grasp for straws when cornered or they constantly deflect to avoid conceding a point. I will listen to the 'Kindergarten Christians' who present the most basic (and easily refutable) arguments all day long but the... let's call them "Dunning-Kruger callers" annoy the shit out of me.

@Satans_lil_helper

Ай бұрын

💯

@JBee887

Ай бұрын

Nothing is as painful as Darth Dawkins a.k.a Gary milne

@tpseeker3367

Ай бұрын

Otangelo @@JBee887 ?? Sorry couldn't resist

@SnottyKitty

Ай бұрын

@@tpseeker3367 Otangelo is the worst!

@JBee887

Ай бұрын

@@tpseeker3367 there's someone worse than Gary? Oh my

😅😅 Yeah, it's logical to believe that legions of invisible supernatural beings exist.

@Kimjong-Atheism

Ай бұрын

Many people believe in the supernatural like atheists that believe the origins of Life came into existence without creation, without God believe in the supernatural. Obviously the natural process as we know it is life comes from life, Life comes from an intelligent source it doesn't pop into existence because of a non intelligent occurrence, that would be considered the supernatural. Atheist at least the one's in the west compared to non atheist overwhelmingly believe that people can be born with a supernatural brain that doesn't match their body. How to fix a bleed this so much that they would have their childrens body parts mutilated and give them all kinds of hormone blockers .

I like when he goes into his "physical constants" script and includes the "even atheists agree" part.

So according to caller it’s “illogical” to not believe whatever you’re told? Even when they admit they can’t prove it and it CAN NOT be proven? I’d believe in any god if it’s demonstrated. Not a second before. Caller knows he can’t demonstrate his god, so insists it must be believed by default. Literally anyone can claim any “god” and he’d have to accept it to be consistent. But we all know he’s got one he’s attached to.

I find the cupboard not guilty of containing a cookie.

If there is a cookie and you dont believe them, ask to see the cookie to prove it is there. With religion, No one has been able to show the cookie.

@garybaltiejus7248

23 күн бұрын

Is the cookie monster god 😂😂😂😂

@defenestratefalsehoods

23 күн бұрын

@garybaltiejus7248 I have seen the cookie monster on sesame street, but no god has ever shown itself.

These style of callers are the why they added the mute button

@quotedotes

Ай бұрын

Callers that can't seem to find their mouth's off switch.

@einienj3281

Ай бұрын

Definitely 😁

The caller needs to learn how to listen with his ears and not his mouth.

"I don't believe there's a cookie in the cabinet".. ok, let's go look if there's a cookie in the cabinet. Very easy. Now show me god.

@MarkoVukovic0

Ай бұрын

I was shouting this at my TV. "We can just go and look for the cookie in the cupboard!" 🤣

@einienj3281

Ай бұрын

@@MarkoVukovic0 Exactly!! 😄😄

@paulgemme6056

28 күн бұрын

@@MarkoVukovic0 Look out your window and you will see evidence that God exists because nothing that was made could come from nothing. That's absurd!

@MarkoVukovic0

28 күн бұрын

​@@paulgemme6056 nature is not evidence of God in any way. No scientist makes the claim that matter comes from nothing. You believers will claim that God made everything from nothing and that there was nothing before God. You are absurd.

@paulgemme6056

27 күн бұрын

@@MarkoVukovic0 God/Jesus Christ/Holy Spirit is eternal. Where God is time doesn't exist. Try putting a piece of wood in the shed and wait and see how long it takes to become a guitar. It will not happen. Why? Because it takes a designer and a builder/maker. Evil/sin run rampant. the days are evil. Where do you believe evil/sin comes from. When God/Christ Jesus made everything, it was all good.

“I believe Peter killed John. If Peter didn’t kill John, you go ahead and prove how John died! And even though I have no evidence what so ever that Peter killed John, that does t mean that he didn’t do it. You’re irrational for believing Peter didn’t do it!! Therefore Peter killed John!!!!! I am so smart. S M R T!!!!”

The Negative Evidence Principle: 1. Have you searched diligently for evidence of the claim? 2. Have you found any evidence for the claim? 3. Should you have found evidence for the claim? If the answers are 1 = Yes, 2 = No and 3 = Yes then it is reasonable to conclude that the claim is false. This is one of argument that has been used against Mormonism.

@louistournas120

Ай бұрын

Well, the evidence against mormonism is extensive. The j people were not sea ferrying people. They are not known as a sea ferrying people. The vikings were sea ferring people. That is how they reached various parts of Europe, that is how they reached Iceland, that is how they reached Greenland and the evidence shows they reached New Foundland, Baffin Island, Labrador. There is no evidence of hebrews in the USA. Europeans weren’t sure who the native americans were. There were various concepts, such as another creation from the j god, a 4 th kid from Noah that survived and came to the Americas. The whites were from Shem I think, the asians were from Japheth I think. The blacks were from Ham (Curse of ham). We have to keep in mind that europeans were racist and that such concepts made it into morminism via Joseph Smith. Modern science solved this questions. Native americans are definitely not from the middle east.

@wizardsuth

Ай бұрын

It's also a good argument against the story of Exodus. Had the Hebrews been enslaved en masse in Egypt for centuries, we would expect to find evidence such as bodies, fire pits, trash heaps, clothing, pottery, etc. but we don't.

@Valicroix

Ай бұрын

@@wizardsuth Excellent Point.

If you accept that the universe must of had a creator, then all this does is beg the question, ''what created the creator '' ?? and on and on it goes ......

"Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" is one of the most annoying trite false statements people mindlessly quote. This is only true for an unfalsifiable claim, which is a useless claim anyway. People hiding their imaginary beliefs behind the shield of unfasifiability and pretending that it somehow makes them possible is really pathetic.

@felix.a.m

Ай бұрын

Ofcourse for them that argument doesn’t apply to anything else

@kelvintonblortsmon2457

Ай бұрын

CLEARLY you're too ignorant to know & understand that God is falsifiable. You have a lot to learn.

@Kimjong-Atheism

Ай бұрын

You mean like atheists do with the hypothesis of abiiogenesis. What makes it even more interesting even if it was falsifiable it has nothing to do with the atheist faith-based in the supernatural aka the idea of the origins of Life came come into existence without creation, without God. I'm willing and able to believe it's true that the origins of life came into existence without creation, without God but nobody has been able to provide any convincing evidence. So why should I go for my life believing that the origins of Life can come into existence without creation, without God if there's no evidence to suggest that's possible let alone true. Also let's not forget the fact even if God was proven by the scientific method an atheist still wouldn't accept God. Atheist like the default position of atheism but they don't like the reason why atheism is a default position so they pretend like atheism is whatever they say it is and yet they still have the default position no matter what they say it is..

@queuecee

Ай бұрын

NEPy: Claims that god is falsifiable. Also NEPy: Doesn't provide the falsifiability criteria for an invisible, undetectable deity.

@skindred1888

Ай бұрын

This is...a mess of words. Kinda dumb aswell. What does abiogenesis have to do with the god claim ? Weird. You're doing the exact same thing buddy😂 ​@@Kimjong-Atheism

Classic when your answer will destroy your claim, ignore question or redefine question.

Yet another example of why it's so hard to have a rational and sensible debate, using logic and evidence to make your points, with people who don't know what rationality is and who have little or no idea of the concepts of logic or evidence.

The fine tuning argument is one of the dumbest ever. There is absolutely no evidence that any of the universal constants could be anything other than what they are. They aren't variables. They are constants. Nothing is needed to explain them. They are merely emergent properties of the universe. It is also a great example of the puddle argument. If they were different, we wouldn't know. Either life wouldn't exist, or life would exist differently to how it exists now, but we would be unaware of the difference since it would be normal to us.

@vertigo4236

Ай бұрын

They allways ignore, that life evolved to the circumstances around them. Put a dolphin on land and see what happens. Please don't do this.

@StripesChaosGremlin

Ай бұрын

Whenever I hear some version of the fine tuning argument I always think, 'If the rules for everything was slightly different when everything started (regardless of how it started cause that a whole other argument) we would have a different universe.' Just like who a hole wasn't made to fit the puddle of water thing.

@newnameish

Ай бұрын

There is life on Earth and there is water to sustain it…it’s a miracle! No there is life on Earth BECAUSE there is water to sustain it.

@scipioafricanus5871

Ай бұрын

@@vertigo4236 It's called Sea World and it ain't right.

@paulgemme6056

28 күн бұрын

@@vertigo4236 Look out your window and you will see evidence that God exists because nothing that was made could come from nothing. That's absurd!

*It is illogical to add upon our understanding of anything, needless assumptions.* Especially assumptions of magic men in the sky.

@kelvintonblortsmon2457

Ай бұрын

Magic? Christianity? Not even close. It's atheism that desperately clings to "magic" or the IMPOSIBLE: A MINDLESS, PURPOSELESS moist rock coming from NOTHING & ignoring DISORDER (entropy) to produce a first cell with systems within to eat, digest food, eliminate waste, move & reproduce - NOT TO MENTION the DNA blueprints for 10 million DIFFERENT species that evolution comes OUT OF NOWHERE to diversify into the animals on the earth. Yes, it's atheism that desperately needs "magic." You actually believe that IMPOSSIBLE garbage and you can't afford to get this wrong. 100 trillion yrs from now, you'll still be in hell. Oh btw, the DIVINE POWER of God is mentioned throughout the Bible. I ask you to TRY TO LEARN JUST HOW STUPID THE CULT OF ATHEISM TRULY IS! P.S. - There's NOTHING IMPORTANT that we "don't know." God makes sure of that, so that we have no excuses come "Judgement Day." We know all the ideas of atheism (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) improving life, evolution) are IMPOSSIBLE/NEVER OBSERVED and that no MINDLESS atheist cause/source (e.g. nothing, star dust, moist rocks, mud puddles, primordial soup) can create/design anything. And if you don’t believe a mindless non-intelligent unguided process (evolution) can do anything of complexity, jerk out your brain and make me a ham sandwich. Let’s see how far you get ;) Every facet of you’re asinine, lost & clueless atheist cult is debunked. It's what I do.

@Kimjong-Atheism

Ай бұрын

You mean like a child going to a magic show and watches the magician close the curtain and say abracadabra and then a woman appears he assumes the woman popped into existence. The explanation closest to magic I've ever heard was when atheists Richard Dawkins said everything came into existence from nothingness no air, no space nothingness. Of course there's no such thing as nothingness and let's not forget that goes against the first law of thermodynamics. This is why I came to the conclusion Richard Dawkins must have made a bet with his friends that he can get atheist to call him a genius no matter what claims to magic he makes. And if this is the case he won that bet because countless atheists on the threads were calling him a genius when he said everything came from nothingness

@jonclark8252

Ай бұрын

@@kelvintonblortsmon2457 “You either have a good argument/explanation or you don't and you don't. Prove me wrong?" It's telling that you don't mention evidence. Given that you have neither the evidence nor the logic it's no wonder you keep using logical fallacies. By your standard you are a purple space penguin. This is proven because all purple space penguins lie about what they know and are incapable of being logical. Since you always lie about what you know and are incapable of being logical, you therefore are a Purple Space Penguin unless and until you prove otherwise because both my argument and explanation are irrefutable.

@unknown5150variable

Ай бұрын

​@@Kimjong-Atheism do you really think people believe ypu when you say things like this? Its totally obvious that you just made up some story in your head according to your own misunderstandings.

@Kimjong-Atheism

Ай бұрын

@@unknown5150variable if you're asking me whether or not do I think people believe me when I said Richard Dawkins argued the universe came from nothingness, I would have to say that many people already understood that Richard Dawkins made this claim.. and other people like quecee has a disbelief that Richard Dawkins said the universe came from literally nothing even though I've proven it to him countless times. This is the problem with having a disbelief even if something is proven by the scientific method somebody with a disbelief still wouldn't be able or willing to accept it. Now that I supplied a quote from Richard Dawkins himself saying that he believes the universe literally came from nothing, correction he said it's a fact. Do you not believe that he said it or do you still have a disbelief that he said it.

Logic and theism don't belong in the same sentence.

@EchoChamberDweller

Ай бұрын

Future you, reading your own sentence: Whoops 🤦‍♂️

@Seticzech

Ай бұрын

@@EchoChamberDweller Nope.

@EchoChamberDweller

Ай бұрын

@@Seticzech you’re a bot?

@quentind1924

Ай бұрын

@@EchoChamberDweller He isn't (and me niether because you might be tempted to say that about me)

@EchoChamberDweller

Ай бұрын

@@quentind1924 No, you actually respond to things that are said in a coherent manner. Other goes all “quote and platitudinous disagreement” format. Not a bot, but doesn’t often pass the touring test.

"Quit trying to make me go off my script" - Josh

To assert that the universe is fine tuned based on the premise that a change of one constant would change how the universe evolved is a logical fallacy. For my birth to occur my biological parents are a constant. If they were anyone else, I wouldn't be me, I would be someone else entirely. If I had never been born, the universe wouldn't be any more or less fine tuned than the one I exist in now, It would have evolved in one of an infinite possible range of ways.

@queuecee

Ай бұрын

Not just that, the point that you were conceived would have to have been EXACTLY right. Of the millions of sperm cells, the one that resulted in you would have had to been "fine tuned" to get to the egg first. Anything else and you would have been a different person.

@KGP221

Ай бұрын

@@queueceeAnd when we include in that premise any possible change anywhere in the universe, the universe would be fine tuned by default just because it turned out to be this way rather than that way. In other words, a claim could be made for a fine tuned universe with or without me, yet no evidence is present to support this claim.

@t800fantasm2

Ай бұрын

In some ways we are proof that the universe is not fine tuned as most of it, including large areas of our home planet are deadly to us....

@paulgemme6056

25 күн бұрын

@@queuecee How long do you think it would take for a tree to become a guitar? Without a designer and a builder/maker, it will never happen. Let the scientist figure that one out. God's wisdom is so much higher than what is in finite man's little pea brain.

@queuecee

25 күн бұрын

@paulgemme6056 How long will it take god to take quarks and put them together to create a star that will fuse and create iron? What's your point? That you have evidence that this universe was created and it happens to have been created by the god in your story book? What is the chance of the universe having been created by your version of a god? And what does the fact that a human happened to have created a guitar have anything to do with the origin of the universe? Does the fact that you pooped out your dinner mean that your god pooped out the universe?

When I told a group of kids that I'm an atheist after they asked me about my beliefs, they asked me what that is. I said, someone who doesn't believe in god. Was told by the teacher to keep talk like that private.

@queuecee

Ай бұрын

I guess it's separation of non-church and government? Just be happy that she didn't force you to drink hemlock.

@Ghalaghor_McAllistor

Ай бұрын

@@queuecee Funny thing is that the children were talking about Islam in an inclusive school, but only I was told to keep my beliefs for myself.

@Seticzech

Ай бұрын

@@Ghalaghor_McAllistor I would tell something to that teacher.

@queuecee

Ай бұрын

@@Ghalaghor_McAllistor Those kids should be glad that they didn't make fun of your bald head (or whatever thing that they could have made fun of).

@Ghalaghor_McAllistor

Ай бұрын

@@Seticzech I'm not the wittiest person and didn't know what to say at the moment so I just kept my mouth shut.

Presup: The last stop of dead-beat apologists. When they get tired of being crushed on their Kalam argument, the Moral argument, the Something-cannot-come-from-nothing etc . LOLZ

@kelvintonblortsmon2457

Ай бұрын

Oh? You can CRUSH the Kalem, can you? Do so. Don't leave out any details and THEN give me your rational DETAILED atheist explanation for true reality. This will be good LOL

@sanjeevgig8918

Ай бұрын

@@kelvintonblortsmon2457 Kalam is LONG arse special pleading. Kalam does NOT mention god. You. So. Dumb. LOLZ

@queuecee

Ай бұрын

@@sanjeevgig8918 Kalam is crushed every single day. It falls at P1, which is a black swan fallacy as well as a category error. Just because at the macro level we see things begin to exist because of some other thing, we have NO idea that EVERYTHING in the universe had a cause. We have NO idea if there was a causal initiator for the Big Bang. And then of course, there's no god in the Kalam in the conclusion. Just something. What a dumb, dumb argument.

@quotedotes

Ай бұрын

⁠@@kelvintonblortsmon2457the universe doesn't necessarily need to have a beginning, in order to exist. There's no good evidence to the contrary, either. You may leave to go read your little bible more now.

@t800fantasm2

Ай бұрын

@@kelvintonblortsmon2457 "Oh? You can CRUSH the Kalem, " Show us where it SPECIFICALLY SAYS God.... Ooops CRUSHED!

No doubt Mad Jim Castleberry will be along shortly to point out that a cabbage doesn't have beliefs. Therefore, he will suggest, it's stupid to define atheism as not believing in any gods, even the ones called 'God'!

Tide goes in tide goes out is one of the dumbest things Bill O’reilly ever said.

@queuecee

Ай бұрын

Technically, it's true. Some say, the best kind of truth.

The first discussion would have been so much simpler if they'd explained what is meant by "belief"

The fine tuning argument is really stupid because we do not know what a universe with other constants would look like as reality would be different anyway. So we really don’t know if a universe could exist with other constants or not: At any rate life is barely hanging on and adapted to a universe that is virtually 100 percent uninhabitable rather than a universe being made just for life. Edit not to mention that life as far as we know didn’t exist for most of the universes existence and life has constantly had to adjust to the environment around it in order to merely survive.

I do enjoy the whole "everything that exists had a beginning, therefor needs something to cause it" argument.. All the while being unaware of the fact that the laws of cause and effect (and indeed all natural laws) do not apply on the quantum level.. Like the sigularity.. Which would mean there is no reason to assume the sigularity MUST necessarily require an external energy source or force in order to change states..

@JESUS--NEVER--tAPPED

Ай бұрын

Common sense, sound logic, & reality tells us that… - paintings require a painter - buildings require a builder - design requires a designer - creation requires a creator - non-life cannot produce a fully conscious, living being - non-intelligence cannot produce intelligence - non-morality cannot produce morality - non-emotion cannot produce emotion - some-thing non-social cannot produce sociability - some-thing non-personal cannot produce personality - some-thing without free will cannot produce free will …you think about that 👍

@69eddieD

Ай бұрын

@@JESUS--NEVER--tAPPED BJ requires a beejer....

@JESUS--NEVER--tAPPED

Ай бұрын

@69eddie Eddie requires some respect & manners!

@joshsheridan9511

Ай бұрын

​​@@JESUS--NEVER--tAPPEDcommon sense, logic and reality are beyond your megre intellect.

@joshsheridan9511

Ай бұрын

​@@JESUS--NEVER--tAPPEDyou deserve no respect

Who makes these callers? And when will they stop being made?!?! Life would be sooooo much better without their ideas, perspectives, beliefs, and biases. I am biased too, for sure. But damn!!

@Kimjong-Atheism

Ай бұрын

I just wish atheist experience with higher hosts that believe the origins of Life came into existence without creation, without God this way there can be a normal debate. But it's ridiculous because atheism is a disbelief it's an unwillingness or inability to accept God so here you have people the hosts who don't have the willingness or ability to accept God but at the same time they don't actually believe the origins of Life came into existence without God. Doesn't make for a good debate. In defense of the show it's really hard to find anybody who actually believes the origins of Life came into existence without creation, without God because it's so illogical. Quit poor Richard Dawkins did when he came forward and said that he believes everything came from nothingness he became a subject of ridicule.

@quotedotes

Ай бұрын

@@Kimjong-Atheism have you written a book yet? I'm sure that people would love to see more of your *very true* and *definitely* super rational beliefs on paper...well unless that is, if you don't believe in the existence of books, of course. My bad.

@Kimjong-Atheism

Ай бұрын

@@quotedotesI'm glad you brought this up, I might write a book I'm actually doing some research.. This is where you can help me big time, please apply a rational definition for the word female . This will be on the chapter of the faith-based beliefs of atheists If you're unable to supply a rational definition that will also help with the research. This happens to be the case with the vast majority of atheistic humanists , including of atheistic humanist supreme Court Justice Jackson in the United States.

@paulgemme6056

25 күн бұрын

@@Kimjong-Atheism How long do you think it would take for a tree to become a guitar? Without a designer and a builder/maker, it will never happen. Let the scientist figure that one out. God's wisdom is so much higher than what is in finite man's little pea brain.

I don't believe gnomes care for my garden when I am not looking. I must admit, I have no logical reason or rational justification.

It is intelligent sometimes to say " i dont know" as opposed to blindly believing as theists do, there is a reason why pastors refer to the congregation as "sheep'

No it's not illogical for me to be in Atheist, in fact it's logical, why? Because as an atheist I don't have to do boring AF God ritual activities like worship and prayer 😊 And a good Saturday Morning 🌞 AXP Fans and Theists ❤❤❤ Peace Love Empathy From Australia 💪🤠☝️

@smochygrice465

Ай бұрын

​​@@RickLambert963Edit: Thank God for Alan Watts and Atheism 🙏

@smochygrice465

Ай бұрын

​@@RickLambert963Ah good point! Correction: Thank God for Alan Watts and Atheism 🙏

@quotedotes

Ай бұрын

Yes and amen brethren 🤣🙏

@paulgemme6056

25 күн бұрын

How long do you think it would take for a tree to become a guitar? Without a designer and a builder/maker, it will never happen. Let the scientist figure that one out. God's wisdom is so much higher than what is in finite man's little pea brain.

@smochygrice465

25 күн бұрын

@@paulgemme6056 Don't care mate, God might as well be tits on a bull. Useless. Peace ✌️

Philosophy is Not Reality. That's NOT how Fine-Tuning works.

@quentind1924

Ай бұрын

​@@RickLambert963First we don’t really say there no god, just that there isn’t evidence for god, and so the best position to be (apart from agnosticism) is to consider that there is no god. Also i’ll need your evidence that unicorns doesn’t exists, else considering your standards it’s reasonable to believe in unicorns until we have evidence of their inexistence

@vladtheemailer3223

Ай бұрын

​@@RickLambert963I have the burden of proof.

@vladtheemailer3223

Ай бұрын

​@@RickLambert963I can make those all day long. What if I fail in my burden?

@queuecee

Ай бұрын

@@vladtheemailer3223 The Ricky Spambot can't even fix its spam to stop using "sui generous" in so many of its spams. So it's a pretty bad spambot.

@vladtheemailer3223

Ай бұрын

@@queuecee I had assumed it was not smart enough to be a spambot.

"many criminologists will tell you this" coming from someone who sounds like a teenager is absolutely hilarious.

Caller: If I talk more than you then I'm right.

Remember, if you are Christian and quote John 3 16 enough times that everyone dismisses it as relevant then you're preaching counterproductively. By your own Christian definitions of sin you are unrepentantly sinning by repeating such preaching. (Edit for typos)

@kelvintonblortsmon2457

Ай бұрын

We both know that I don't need the Bible to destroy every facet of your asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism.

@queuecee

Ай бұрын

We both know that NEPy can only bluster on about "destroying" atheism, but is too afraid to actually talk to an atheist. So sad.

@quotedotes

Ай бұрын

Yup. It's not about actually believing in and following their book. They disregard things from it daily. It's about their own emotions, and feeling like part of their chosen in-group. Aka entirely emotionally-motivated reasoning.

@Jebus_Anti-theist

Ай бұрын

I'm developing a LibbyBot2000: "Every true believer - those who root themselves deeply in the Faith and the knowledge of Christ and Him crucified and won'tt allow themselves to be uprooted by thorns and thistles creeping in around them - have strong evidence and strong knowledge of God's existence and presence in their lives - no one believes anything without evidence - Just so happens that no one who is blinded by unbelief can see the evidence. So, at the moment, you are simply out of that knowledge or evidence until you decide to put one foot in front of the other and draw near to him for yourself - humbly and sincerely repenting of your mocking and unbelief. Can you do that? Up to you, not me."

@nealjroberts4050

Ай бұрын

@@Jebus_Anti-theist It's very close 👍

Not believing in magic is illogical? Okay...

@rclrd1

15 күн бұрын

Not believing in magic isn't illogical. True. But then: _believing_ in magic isn't illogical either...

Per the traditional aphorism, "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence", positive evidence of this kind is distinct from a lack of evidence or ignorance of that which should have been found already, had it existed, in this regard Irving Copi writes: " _In some circumstances it can be safely assumed that if a certain event had occurred, evidence of it could be discovered by qualified investigators. In such circumstances it is perfectly reasonable to take the absence of proof of its occurrence as positive proof of its non-occurrence_ ." - Copi, Introduction to Logic(1953), p. 95

The "Can God create a stone so heavy..." argument is one of my favorites. Some Christians just tell me, "God is capable of all things!" which proves they're unable or unwilling to understand the contradiction.

Any and all theists that claim to have evidence that proves your deity exists, I challenge you to a live one on one debate this Saturday on QC's channel. Any takers?

@JESUS--NEVER--tAPPED

Ай бұрын

Hmmm, still challenging theists to a live debate, when Jon has my contact but is too intimidated to use it! …ohh the irony!

@amtlpaul

Ай бұрын

Alas, I think people find your tendency to hold people's feet to the fire in live debate, somewhat intimidating.

@queuecee

Ай бұрын

You are saying that you will be available at a specific venue at a specific time? Then it should be easy for anyone who wants to debate you to contact you. You wouldn't have to call or text them, even if you had their phone number, potentially revealing your own phone number. That seems like the easiest, most convenient method. Surely no one would object to that!

@jonclark8252

Ай бұрын

​@FloridaBJJKickboxing You've been told that I will not call you. You only came up with this demand after you embarrassed yourself the last time you tried to debate on QC's channel and compounded it by lying about what happened. You're still desperately trying to control the narrative. You're still desperately trying to control the situation. Prove me wrong by showing up to the place neither of us moderates. When you're done hiding behind your false bravado, you know know where to meet me.

@albaniahenry-franklin2829

Ай бұрын

​​​@@JESUS--NEVER--tAPPEDI read a prophecy that said you would LOSE every single debate you would attempt to engage in on this show! The only TRUE deities Asherah, Dagon, and Marduk said that's precisely why you make excuses and won't call in🤣🤣

How long until Jimdith whines about implicit atheism again?

@amtlpaul

Ай бұрын

"A cabbage does not have a belief about God. Therefore, an implicit atheist is a cabbage" 😅

@nealjroberts4050

Ай бұрын

They just whined about 5mins ago!

@Kimjong-Atheism

Ай бұрын

​@@amtlpaulif you replace the brain of somebody who believes in God with a rock and you replace the brain of an atheist with a rock you end up with two atheists. Atheism doesn't require thinking it requires an unwillingness or inability to accept God.

@Kimjong-Atheism

Ай бұрын

Usually The Men who whine are atheistic humanist leftist males. Matter of fact they're always crying to KZread that I say things that hurt them emotionally. Atheist humanist males these radical leftists are always seeking invisible safe spaces to have a good man cry. I know this one atheists humanist lose a debate they become so emotionally triggered they start straw Manning . They make up an argument for somebody and then they argue against it as if it's that person's position, I don't even think they're doing this on purpose I think they become so emotionally overwhelmed it becomes the only way they can deal.

@amtlpaul

Ай бұрын

An idiotic remark from. @@Kimjong-Atheism. A rock also doesn't believe in Santa Claus. So what?

So easy to convince people like the caller of anything.

It's completely logic to be an atheist. Being an atheist is the most logical, lucid and rational thing that exists. Being a theist and believing blindly without any proofs in an invisible imaginary magical skydaddy who magically created the universe with a magic wand is the most stupid, ridiculous and irrational thing that exists.

So wrapped up in 'god must exist' he can't even carry on a reasonable honest conversation. One of the main reasons theists the world over are near impossible to talk with.

@MarkoVukovic0

Ай бұрын

This is why people like NDT will never debate a theist. They can never come from a point of logic. It's a pointless and frustrating exercise.

@paulgemme6056

25 күн бұрын

@@MarkoVukovic0 How long do you think it would take for a tree to become a guitar? Without a designer and a builder/maker, it will never happen. Let the scientist figure that one out. God's wisdom is so much higher than what is in finite man's little pea brain.

@MarkoVukovic0

25 күн бұрын

@@paulgemme6056 ​I'm not sure what analogy you are trying to make with the tree/guitar story you keep repeating. I don't think you even having a clue. Stop making claims about God that you can't back up. Every religion that man has ever dreamt up makes these same bs creator claims. Enough is enough. Thankfully, religion is in decline, just not fast enough.

Shoulda said John Doe killed Buck Naked.

They like to argue fine tuning: fine tuned for what? "If things would be different, the universe would be different" Yeah duh. "The universe would be all catastrophe." Meaning black holes, supernovas, radiation waves, uninhabitable gas giants, asteroid fields and barren moons? We have that. Oh, he's referring to life on Earth, not the universe. He means finely tuned... for us. For life. Specifically human life. Which is preposterous.

@matthew6427

18 күн бұрын

Exactly. Even the earth isn't super great at being habitable for humans. We can only survive on a tiny portion of the planet, some of the time.

2,000 years and Christians have no new arguments

Josh needs a education

@t800fantasm2

Ай бұрын

@@RickLambert963 Hey imbecile, you keep posting the same thing over and over liked f**king TODDLER Grow the f**k up and stop your infantile nonsense.... I reported each of your SPAM posts as SPAM. WTF is your personal DEFECT!?

@69eddieD

Ай бұрын

@@RickLambert963 LMAO

@kelvintonblortsmon2457

Ай бұрын

And you don't? Tell me again how a moist rock + TIME = human being? I'm just wondering if you people can get any dumber.

@queuecee

Ай бұрын

@@kelvintonblortsmon2457 Pssst. Moist rocks or dry dirt doesn't create a human being. Along with Josh, you should also get basic education. Though it takes VERY little education to know that a human being doesn't pop out of dust.

@kelvintonblortsmon2457

Ай бұрын

@@queuecee True. You need to learn that it's not just rocks or dirt, but it's the entirety of FINITE NATURE that can't produce anything. FINITE NATURE is the effect that had a beginning, while our INFINITE GOD is the cause, which makes him uncaused, beginningless, changeless, immaterial, timeless, spaceless and enormously powerful, because he produced time/space/matter/energy & then cursed it and that's why we have entropy today - all matter DYING as it heads toward it's heat death end. Oh btw, my "education" clearly dwarfs yours and I prove that w/ every comment & post. What makes you even more dumb is that you think you're smart LOL

Ah yes, Steven Hawkins, the president of athiests.

@Seticzech

Ай бұрын

So dumb. 🤦

@quotedotes

Ай бұрын

Checkmate, atheist swine 🤪🤣

@Beacon80

Ай бұрын

And this was right after they chewed him out for talking about what someone else believes. I'm surprised they didn't call him on it again.

If the constants were such that life wasn't possible, we wouldn't be wondering about it.

I've heard that Universe Farting Pixies, after eons of unemployment, have begun pilfering corpses from car trunks.

I'm starting to wonder if Flojo wants me to unalive myself, because that's what might happen if he doesn't learn to respect my boundaries.

@nealjroberts4050

Ай бұрын

My offer to share emails is still open if you want to chat offline.

@jonclark8252

Ай бұрын

Mine as well

@JESUS--NEVER--tAPPED

Ай бұрын

God loves you and has a plan & purpose for your life! I care for you and really hope you make the right decision for Christ! Remember, He laid His life down, so you could have yours!

@ApatheticFish3667

Ай бұрын

@@JESUS--NEVER--tAPPED This place is supposed to be a place where I can be free of harassment I face from religious people, and can forget how much pain it causes me. You and your Christian colleagues are constantly making me feel awful about everything, and it's causing me to have suicidal thoughts. Do you want to give me an early departure to hell? No. It's god's job to convince me, not yours. So stop harassing me.

@JimCastleberry

Ай бұрын

Nobody want's you to unalive. Simply get honest about things when losing on the merits. Look at the bright side, Some things are worth losing - like atheism or brain cancer. You don't want to 'win' atheism or brain cancer. Not a prize. With atheism, you lose no matter what.

What is your EVIDENCE of the existence of god ? Xtians: Our old book says so. . LOLZ

@kelvintonblortsmon2457

Ай бұрын

Tell me again how a moist rock + TIME = human being? I'm just wondering if you people can get any dumber.

@Ghalaghor_McAllistor

Ай бұрын

And of course all other old books doing the same are wrong for some reason, even if they are older than the bible.

@jonclark8252

Ай бұрын

@@kelvintonblortsmon2457 “You either have a good argument/explanation or you don't and you don't. Prove me wrong?" It's telling that you don't mention evidence. Given that you have neither the evidence nor the logic it's no wonder you keep using logical fallacies. By your standard you are a purple space penguin. This is proven because all purple space penguins lie about what they know and are incapable of being logical. Since you always lie about what you know and are incapable of being logical, you therefore are a Purple Space Penguin unless and until you prove otherwise because both my argument and explanation are irrefutable.

It’s like arguing with zombies!

It's weird how so many people don't understand the three tiers of belief. You can believe a thing is true, you can not believe a thing is true, or you can believe a thing is untrue. Guilty, not guilty, innocent. You need proof (or at least reasonable evidence) for "guilty" or "innocent", but you don't need it for "not guilty".

@the-outsider8458

Ай бұрын

Most people have difficulty with or have never been presented with the idea of propositions. Propositions can be accepted or not. There isn't even the 3rd option. Proposition: god exists. Accept it, or don't. People the world over equate not accepting it with asserting the completely separate proposition that god does not exist. If that relatively simple hurdle can't be cleared, continuing on to more complex concepts is an exercise in futility.

@joecoolioness6399

Ай бұрын

I kinda get what you are trying to say, in a court of law someone can be found guilty because a video shows they did the crime, they can be found not guilty because there isn't enough evidence to convict them, or they can be found not guilty (innocent) because there is a video showing someone else committing the crime. As far as the question about whether or not any god exists, it is a yes or no answer. Now if you proved a god exists then claimed they created the universe, the court room example would come into play.

@BigSlimyBlob

Ай бұрын

@@joecoolioness6399 I would say it comes into play before then. You can be convinced that gods exists (guilty), you can be unconvinced that one exists (not guilty), or you can be convinced that they do not exist (innocent). That's already three different levels, not just two.

This is the most hilrious squirming theist of all time. He was a big hit talking down the drunks at his local pub, but now he can't find his way around Grand Central Station. No ticky, no washy.

If your god-belief renders you incapable of successfully making a logical argument, you should complain to your manufacturer.

@kelvintonblortsmon2457

Ай бұрын

Logic is all on the side of Christianity and to prove it, give me your rational atheist explanation for true reality. I'm preparing to be amused LOL

@Devious_Dave

Ай бұрын

@@kelvintonblortsmon2457 What's "true reality"? If you can define that, what's your rational theist "explanation for true reality"? If I understand & agree with what you mean, I'll try to answer you.

@kelvintonblortsmon2457

Ай бұрын

@@Devious_Dave The Bible. That's why nobody has debunked any part of it after 100's of yrs of trying. At the same time, all atheist ideas have been debunked...... Your question is very broad. Do you have a question w/ a smaller scope?

@Seticzech

Ай бұрын

@@kelvintonblortsmon2457 Repeat after me: Bible was written by iron age totally ignorant superstitious illiterate goad herders who didn't know where Sun goes at night. Bible is just book of fairy tales and stories and represent only THINKING of their authors. BIBLE IS EVIDENCE ONLY FOR EXISTENCE OF BIBLE, nothing more.

@Seticzech

Ай бұрын

@@kelvintonblortsmon2457 Repeat after me: there is no such thing as god in reality. CLEAR EVIDENCE shows us that every isolated society created their own version of gods, their own version of LOCAL FLOOD, their own version of Earth and universe. There are no mutually isolated two places in the world where people have the same gods, that clearly proves that EVERY IDEA OF EVERY GOD IS MAN MADE.

These theists always come into the call arse about face. Nobody needs to justify lack of belief of a claim. Why cant they understand this?

@quotedotes

Ай бұрын

To answer your question succinctly. Emotionally-motivated reasoning, and childhood indoctrination. That covers the vast majority of cases.

@quotedotes

Ай бұрын

And most of the rest of the outliers are just schizophrenia of some variety, from what I've observed. Religion is very popular with those who have a more tenuous grasp of reality.

@junodonatus4906

Ай бұрын

The tactic they use that irritates me to no end is the...."Then tell me how the universe began," or other variants, "who created everything?" as if this is a mic drop moment for them. I find it unbelievable that they truly think that lack of knowledge immediately defaults to their fairy tale explanation being true.

@paulgemme6056

25 күн бұрын

@@junodonatus4906 How long do you think it would take for a tree to become a guitar? Without a designer and a builder/maker, it will never happen. Let the scientist figure that one out. God's wisdom is so much higher than what is in finite man's little pea brain.

@junodonatus4906

25 күн бұрын

@@paulgemme6056 We do observe chemical and biological evolution of living things through natural selection. Your analogy therefore, not only invokes special pleading (because your designer doesn't need parents like all designers we know of ) but is also ignorant of science. .

The fine tuning argument doesn't include changing all the constants. Sure change one, and that's a problem. Say for a simple example we need 4 numbers and they have to total 10. If we have 1, 2 and 3 then the last one has to be 4. But the first could be -324248.

Some people simply can't accept that we *don't know everything* , and have to offer up even an unprovable claim as "proof".

@quotedotes

Ай бұрын

Because they're not actually, really interested in *logical* arguments. Only *emotional* ones. In other words, they *feel* that gawd is real, therefore he has to be, and that they should make up post hoc rationalizations, after the fact, to keep the flock faithful(ly gullible)

@catkeys6911

Ай бұрын

@@quotedotes Basically, they still need their daddys. Their "Father who art in heaven" -HOLLOW be that name.

I want to preserve this comment by Damonkey. He was talking about the time where I was trying to show him how him continuing to quote Hegel out of context (Hegel's the worst one to just quote a snippet). But according to him: "When he realised he was speaking with a philosophically trained person..." He thinks I determined that I was speaking with a "philosophically trained person".🤣🤣🤣 That is SO precious. That he thinks he's "philosophically trained" when he has had NO formal education. He may not have had any education outside of whatever high school is in his home country. And that he thinks that I would somehow think that he's trained in philosophy when EVERYTHING he's written demonstrates that he has only a surface understanding of various woo topics. BTW, my issue with Damonkey isn't necessarily his lack of education in the field. It's really his inability to think logically and actually have a coherent argument AND respond on topic. There's something weird about how he doesn't get the point, either because of some pathology or from purposeful dishonesty.

@damonkenny3444

Ай бұрын

Look you really are twiggered by what I said. The walls of texts are coming form QC!

@damonkenny3444

Ай бұрын

Neal, Paulair, Blarg, Jonclark, Beacon. Come help QC. Help him!

@queuecee

Ай бұрын

Does someone seem triggered by my post???

@damonkenny3444

Ай бұрын

@@queuecee Someone help QC! Help him!

@amtlpaul

Ай бұрын

Someone is getting a tad hysterical. Oh well.

In case Damonkey decides to erase his post, here's what he said: "QC I am from Australia and white English speaking married man with three children and a professional career, astutely well read and educated in philosophy, jurisprudence (trust-equity), and science. I read about 50-100 pages a day of philosophical literature. That’s how I know you have a 5th grade reading comprehension slow boi." So once you stop laughing, we can analyze this. I've never got the sense that he's an Aussie. I don't think an Aussie would use the term "slow boi", which he's used frequently. And he's ABSOLUTELY willing to flat out lie by saying that I have a "5th grade reading comprehension".😂 He would rather look idiotic and ineffective at estimating reading and writing level than to let go of that insult that he commonly uses. He started using it because I started accusing him of low reading comprehension as he was not understanding our responses to him. Of course, if he IS telling the truth, considering his level of logical thinking, I shudder at what his work quality would be like.😬 But he agreed to be on my live stream this Saturday, so we get to hear his Aussie accent!

@damonkenny3444

Ай бұрын

You don’t read. You don’t read books. You watch KZread. I’m educated, but aren’t.

@damonkenny3444

Ай бұрын

Neal, Blarg, Paulair, Jonclark, beacon!! Come help QC. Come help!

@queuecee

Ай бұрын

@@damonkenny3444 You are educated? Really? Did you go to a government school then or a Catholic school?

@damonkenny3444

Ай бұрын

@@queuecee Guys come help QC! He needs help! Where are you guys?

@damonkenny3444

Ай бұрын

@@queuecee Trying to find my personal details again? Lol, my school my job my family ect? LoL.

Corpse-removing pixies! *cackles*

He’s right that change any fundamental constant and this universe might not exist in the same way that if you change ANY edge or depth of a puddle the original would cease to exist. There’d be a DIFFERENT puddle! …and he’s the one who’s got it all worked out…with magic🤨

Logic is all on the side of Christianity and to prove it, give me your rational atheist explanation for true reality. I'm preparing to be amused LOL

@vladtheemailer3223

Ай бұрын

What is true reality?

@ApatheticFish3667

Ай бұрын

In other words, just because the earth is not flat means it must be a pyramid.

@Seticzech

Ай бұрын

Abracadabra is so logical. 🤣

@Seticzech

Ай бұрын

Repeat after me: ABIOGENESIS and EVOLUTION can explain existence of life and speciation as we know it, it is supported by hugebody of IRREFUTABLER FACTS. Evolution is one of the most proven scientific theory in the history of mankind, abiogenesis was proven as viable and totally possible origin of life on early Earth's conditions. We have REAL POSSIBLE WAY HOW LIFE EMERGED ON EARTH COMPLETELY NATURALLY. NO SILLY FICTIONAL CREATOR NECESSARY.

@Beacon80

Ай бұрын

My logic is this: I have seen no good evidence that a god is required for reality, so until I do, I won't assume a god is required.

Since atheism is void of “good news”, allow me to reiterate the Good News of the Gospel: Gospel = Good News Good News = Christ came, died, was buried, & rose again FOR YOU! (1 Cor. 15:1-4) Who’s interested in the Good News of eternal life?? If so, repeat after me: “Lord Jesus, I confess I’m a sinner & in desperate need of You! I truly repent of my sins & I believe that You came, died, was buried, & rose again for me! Please help me this day forward to live for You! In Your Holy Name, I pray, amen!”

@amtlpaul

Ай бұрын

I have a strange sense of deja lu. This is no more convincing than it was before.

@JESUS--NEVER--tAPPED

Ай бұрын

@paul … then sadly, Paul WILL die in his sins, unless he repents!

@CGB_Crash

Ай бұрын

Prove ANY of that or go away.

@amtlpaul

Ай бұрын

@@JESUS--NEVER--tAPPED "All things are done according to God's plan and decision." Who are you to express sorrow at the will of the Almighty?

@amtlpaul

Ай бұрын

@@CGB_Crash He won't. Impotent threats and spam are all he's got.

It’s irrational to be irrational

@paulgemme6056

25 күн бұрын

How long do you think it would take for a tree to become a guitar? Without a designer and a builder/maker, it will never happen. Let the scientist figure that one out. God's wisdom is so much higher than what is in finite man's little pea brain.

@RadGnarRad

21 күн бұрын

@@paulgemme6056 what does wood have to do with how humans evolved? Not even remotely on topic either. Dick move.

Tedious that "Apologists" never recognise the difference between "I believe" and "I know". I only have to provide evidence if I claim to know something. Belief might be just my opinion, as belief is very much a sliding scale. As I might be on the "no evidence" end of the belief scale, about something I don't give a feck about.

Because believing in talking talking snakes, donkeys, bushes, and so on is SO logical.. SMH!

Christian: “Fine…I’ll stop incessantly talking over you” What an a-hole.

Looking forward to meeting Josh's snake and/or tarantula.

Poor Josh. Perhaps next time he'll practice before trying to baffle atheists.

I didn't know Kansas City was in Michigan...🤣

@diogeneslamp8004

Ай бұрын

Of course it is! That’s why it’s called KANSAS Ci-oh, wait.

@MizzouRah78

Ай бұрын

@@diogeneslamp8004 😂

Someone does not know what illogical actually means. No surprise there. Speaking forcefully with not even a primary understanding of a topic, is why we have no contact with ANY believers at our home.

No-one has provided any evidence that proves there is no magical fairy in a teapot orbiting a star in the outer universe. So what!

If the cosmos was a loop of billions of different universes in sequence until one repeated itself in every possible way it wouldn't have a beginning or end.

The god of the gaps argument is such a tiring one. "You can't prove it wasn't god!" is a blatant reversal of the burden of proof. When a dead body has been found, you don't get to say that the butler did it if I do not know whom the real murderer is. You still have to show that it was in fact a murder, that a butler who could have done it even exists, and that said butler had the motivation, means and opportunity to do it before you can even make said butler a likely suspect. Same thing with the universe, the fact that it exists does not prove a god, let alone a specific one. You still have to show that it was created to begin with and that your god exists and could have done it before your god even becomes a plausible explanation for the beginning of the universe. Until that hurdle has been met, a god is not even a plausible possibility worthy of consideration.

So are we just dust in the wind and this is just the hell called life thingie going on b4 we die LOL almost make me sad and ask why should we try to be good and rational beings? Im agonist and deff lean atheïst raised Jewish 33 /f. Regards from Amsterdam NL 🎉

Like the puddle, the body of evidence for a god grows smaller with every passing year. Sorry god, you haven't made the cut. Thanks for the miseries, the memories will forever haunt us.

Josh's arguments are evidence of how and why human beings invented the concept of supernatural entities, god(s). One of the things we now know about humans is that we have the tendency to attribute agency to things we don't know the cause or origin of and we tend to give that agency characteristics of superpowers that we do not possess such as invisibility, actions that we cannot do and that can deliver favors or punishment relating to how we submit to appeasing such entities. We will also endow those entities with the power of thought and intention to help or harm us. Such entities know the answers to all the mysteries and can control the environment, purposely cause coincidences to send messages, among other things. It's all evidence that the human mind struggles and has struggled to have an answer when there isn't an apparent one so must assuage that uncomfortable feeling with something imaginary that will cover the ignorance. Something falls off a shelf in another room, you go look to see why it fell but cannot determine the cause, the mind goes straight to something supernatural to be the explanation. Ghosts, demons, emps, etc. all get invented. One rarely thinks that the object may have been precariously placed and a large truck passing that you didn't notice jarred it so that it fell according to natural physics. But the ghost or spirit of some kind suits the mind's need to know and have an explanation. That's why I think the whole concept of the supernatural can readily be dismissed as well as it gives me the confidence to say there are no gods or a god, never have been.

Theists want to believe they are the center of the universe and there’s a Nobodaddy who will exempt them and their families from natural laws. That’s it. There’s massive ego and fear at the heart of all of it.

Drinking game, every time "the thing is" is said, take a drink. I dare you to get past the first 2 minutes.

It's like arguing with a turnip!

"Logic is part of his nature" van someone explain what that's supposed to mean or how it's supposed to ground logic?

A God that exists both inside AND outside of time and space (omnipresence) COULD make a rock so heavy it could not lift AND AT THE SAME TIME (because time would be irrelevant to such a Being) be able to lift such a rock.NOTHING would be impossible to that kind of God -- a truly fantastic (and unlikely) Being!

Omnipotent was explained to me by a Christian said, it mean God can do anything possible, but not everything impossible. But I immediately pointed out that it either means God can do anything human deemed impossible, Which makes him a weak God, or it means God can't do what he can't do, which is a circular definition. Eitherway, omnipotent as a concept doesn't make sense.

There is no evidence for David Silberman in this phone call, whether or not he has a cookie.

I would predict that in every universe which supports conscience life, that universe would 'appear' fine-tuned to support that life. It would only be a universe that does NOT appear to be tuned to naturally support its conscience life which would point to some god's intervention being required to otherwise support it. (Life adapts only in conditions in which it can adapt unless it has help).

"Believe in my god, do what I say, give me money."

Caller has got less than a grade 3 education

I've asked god a few times to show himself by turning the sky purple with green polka dots for one day. It still hasn't happend so I guess the guy doesn't exists.

@brucebaker810

Ай бұрын

Or he's done with Stars, Rainbows, and... a) other sky-based signifiers b) other Lucky Charms dessicated marshmallows.

@geekuyl6942

Ай бұрын

@@brucebaker810 at least he can have the decency to say so. But thanks for your advice. Next time I ask if he can turn the mountain tops into turds.

@joecoolioness6399

Ай бұрын

I asked god to heal my nephews shattered back. If he exists he now knows (as if he didn't already) what it would take for me to believe and he has chosen not to do that. I guess I'm going to hell.

"If anything exists it must have been created" is a fallacy.; It doesn't have to be so.