YOU HAVE TO LEAVE THE PUBLIC ROAD, OR YOU'LL BE ARRESTED!!!! - Tata Port Talbot Steelworks
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What is going on everybody, this is TGA, and in today's video, we're at Tata Steel, Port Talbot Steelworks. Only came down to cover a story on the closure of the blast furnaces really, and end up with the police threatening to arrest me, I do have work outside of auditing, and did not want an arrest to interfere with it, which is why I used the duress card. Anyway, enjoy the video!
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This is whats wrong in this country a man with a camera gets blue lights because a corporation calls them a member of the public gets burgled and they dont even turn up
Another piece of footage that shows why the British Police are held in such low regard.
Why do Cops like to talk down to the public?
@abc33944
Ай бұрын
They’re forgetful ,,, the public just need to remind them who they work for
@nero5379_
Ай бұрын
Because you must except my perseved authority no law was broken don't listen to the police the entirety of the uk is private or government land
@dr_dr
Ай бұрын
Because they think, and act, like they are everyone's boss. There are too many people that lick their boots and reinforce their misguided views. A few do show them they are not in charge and they do everything to slap them down.
@cronocide
Ай бұрын
Absolute horse sh!t we wouldn't take this pish in Scotland we don't have any trespass laws.
@tatsnneeps341
Ай бұрын
Because they are abhorrent
'They say' - so many coppers take the company's word as gospel, its pathetic. Corporate Police again
@CHEEKYMONKEY2647
22 күн бұрын
do you realise he was using a street AP not the land registry lol its a street name AP... thats all it is, it doesnt mean that road is public property lol so according to him if i open a road map and see a street its public even though its on say... a military base... or better still my business park where i own 19 roads all with names on them lol he is a clown! with a camera nothing more.... lacking in research ebfore filming lol
Most helpful council response, obnoxious security and police. Must get back for the mass audit.
@TheGwentAuditorTGA
Ай бұрын
It’s happening don’t worry
@geoffbreen2386
Ай бұрын
@@TheGwentAuditorTGA Looking forward to seeing the videos.
Typical cops who police by their thoughts rather than the law !! Uneducated cops taking directions from big business .
The woman thinks she needs to be agressive and arrogant to claim authority that does not exsist
I think I have mentioned this before to you. Why don't you register with land registry and print out the land owners details and map, called the title and register. Its quite cheap to do. Then when there is a dispute with owners or the police you show them the copy and politely tell them to do one.
Looking forward to that thing in the car scrabbling round looking for rats to eat once she's jobless. The Sgt was a clown, typical of the horrendous South Wales Police, having the audacity to claim he knows better than the Land Registry! I love your threat of arrest/duress point- brilliant - the clown had no idea how to handle it. Superb work GA, thank you!
@achitophel5852
Ай бұрын
Council staff seemed to confirm it was not a public highway. Land Registry deal with land ownership, not highways.
@ysgol3
Ай бұрын
@@achitophel5852 Yes, but rights of way, whether public (like a highway in effect is) or private appear (maybe I should say are meant to appear) on Land Registry certificates.
The Sargent should be charged under section 26 of the criminal justice act.
@dr_dr
Ай бұрын
Section 26 must be the most under used piece of legislation in the UK, yet probably should be the most used.
@Pennywise180
Ай бұрын
@dr_dr definitely agree.
@TheGwentAuditorTGA
Ай бұрын
@@dr_dr absolutely, right tyrant. Had it been a different day, would’ve torn him a new arsehole
@vicredmond3443
Ай бұрын
@@TheGwentAuditorTGA He already has 2, one of which he speaks out off.
@mistycat1954
Ай бұрын
@@TheGwentAuditorTGA You admitted in the end you were not sure if it was private because you phoned the council and they couldn't tell you either , so the sargent wasn't wrong asking you to leave neither side had proof at the side of the road so you should have left or taken the arrest and sued them in court YES/NO ?
33:00 - the police should avoid creeping towards people.
Funny that my car got stolen in port talbot and they told me the police wont attend as there were no witnesses and i shoukd knock on doors asking if anyone had seen who took my car,yet they turn up for this
That was chilling the way you were treated. Ps: the council fella was so helpful and did what he could.
@TheGwentAuditorTGA
Ай бұрын
I’m going back with some other auditors
@go.along.get-along.888
Ай бұрын
Are all the UK municipality public servants as helpful as that guy? ours talk to us like we're third class citizens
@BayNewsmedia
Ай бұрын
@@TheGwentAuditorTGA Port Talbot is part of the area we cover. We found the content of your video captured events which should concern all members of the community. We were present along with a large number of reporters in the general vicinity outside the plant when the closure news was confirmed. Nobody interfered on that occasion! We would like to cover any return visit you make. The issues you highlight are ones the public definitely needs to appreciate and understand. Thank you. Baynewsmedia Newsdesk
@TheGwentAuditorTGA
Ай бұрын
@@BayNewsmedia Appreciate it, we’re planning on returning on Monday, and I have a contact from the Council to confirm it’s a public road as well
@Muddydrawers
Ай бұрын
He was superb !
I think it's about time some of these SIA security were being fined for not displaying/showing their licence....even the police have to show their id to anyone who asks for it.
@robertmawby3021
Ай бұрын
The SIA as an organisation is a ridiculous joke. Not fit for purpose
Wow, female security was nasty piece of work, serious bad attitude out her mouth😞
@steventhomas9461
Ай бұрын
She was an aggressive Karen straight of the bat.
@philldownes8685
Ай бұрын
not realy sure it was female ? some sort of horrible beast is probably the best way to describe that..
@geoffbreen2386
Ай бұрын
@@steventhomas9461 A Karen Kow.
Private corporation Police force in action. Make a formal complaint as they have exceeded their powers.
Police talking bollox as usual, The reason the TV vans park on the other side of the roundabout is because there is no where to park down that access road, where you were standing is controlled by ABP not TATA and its a civil matter nothing to do with SWP. I live opposite and will be taking my drone over to cover the end of the Blast furnaces, which believe me cant go soon enough with the rubbish that comes out of there on a daily bases and covers cars and houses and gardens.
@bensmith5231
Ай бұрын
And will put hundreds of people out of work. Probaly people ya know... Good 4 U though fella 🙄🤡🙄
@jamieprice23
Ай бұрын
@@bensmith5231poison people for jobs, that sounds about right. Fuck the jobs.
@vicredmond3443
20 күн бұрын
@@bensmith5231 You have obviously never had 50 years of crap falling all over you home, walls, gardens, lungs et al, plus the cost and hassle of getting anything done about it.
How can the police tell you you are wrong when they don't know the truth comical
Complaint against the Sargent,
So the Sgt FAILS to do an investigation that includes talking with the council regarding land ownership
@RelationalDatabase-us7fr
Ай бұрын
Why are the police enforcing a non aggrivated Tresspass?
Cooperate cop outs . Using the wind as an excuse for invading a persons personal space to intimidate them . He is mostly certainly not harmless as he abuses the law, that makes him a threat in my book .
It was unfair the way they took the word of the security without investigating and wouldn't listen to TGA. They might have had body cam, but so did TGA - and it would have revealed that there is no swearing.
You should've let him arrest you ... ker ching!
If you don’t leave you will be arrested for public order (swearing). That would make it a premeditated malicious arrest! 🤔😉
Trespass isn't a criminal matter therefore the cops have no authority in the matter
Mass audit is required.
@TheGwentAuditorTGA
Ай бұрын
That’s the plan
@CyberCurtainTwitcher
Ай бұрын
@@TheGwentAuditorTGA You might want to edit out your phone number.
@tripri612
Ай бұрын
Why? They won't see you there. Talkative coward. Stay behind your keypad.
Mass audit. With rigid proof of council land
This Tata crowd NEED mass audit
Dirty Cops, dirty Security Karen in a dirty car, man that was dirty, wasn't it? Keep up the good work. Greetings from Berlin, Germany
@TheGwentAuditorTGA
Ай бұрын
Thank you, and it was. SWP aren't getting better
With that proof, you gotta go back now!
A lovely, caring ambulance driver. Complete with SIA card lol
An unnecessary & 'disproportionate response to your presence here'!!
If they pay the security guard by the pound she must be loaded.
You can why there is a disconnect, police at an all time low .retired lifeboatman
police doing what they think not what is law .being told you will be arrested if you do not apply needs to be taken all the way
The filth is a complete disgrace. They clearly don’t know the laws they are enforcing. Well done TGA. 👍👍
@TheGwentAuditorTGA
Ай бұрын
Thank you, I know, I’m going back to go live there with others
@garyevans8116
Ай бұрын
@@TheGwentAuditorTGA I think you should. But go back with at least 10 others and that will knock them sideways. Great work mate
Apart from the male security guard on the gate the two women were appalling and the police a disgrace to the force.
Trespassing is civil; no aggravated trespass happened. Where is the Public order offence?
@derekfaeberwick
Ай бұрын
He swore at the fat bird, public order offence which was recorded by Florence Nightingale. Basically he fkt up again.
@nathanwilson3737
Ай бұрын
@@derekfaeberwickwouldn't class it as public order offence if it's on private land.
@ysgol3
Ай бұрын
@@nathanwilson3737 Hi, the offence can be committed on private land. (There was no offence here of course.)
@moby1388
Ай бұрын
@@ysgol3 Then it would be a private order offence which is civil.
@mpol701
16 күн бұрын
It also has to be swearing with police hearing and courts have often said and thrown cases if swearing out as in this day and age tout h shit if we want to swear we can, no one tells me what to say and when, Ive sworn at police and judges, shop workers, nhs staff if people puss me off I swear simple, don't piss me off
It would be good to know what they reported to police to see if they lied to get a response you're always respectful you treat people how they treat you & they don't like it 👍🏻
I saw her in The League of Gentlemen.
@paulraper1
Ай бұрын
Driving a taxi or in the local shop?????
@davelead2742
Ай бұрын
I saw her in the pie shop , she bought the lot
You're language body was abusive😂😂🤡🤡😂😂 What a couple of nasty rude people they were, and the walrus was a bully boy. And the cops don't care what the land registry says, just what the Karen's say, terrible policing YET AGAIN !!
@DMC888
Ай бұрын
The old language body, dropping him in the sh1t again.
Corporate security force doing everything wrong again. 😮
what a KAREN
Council should book them for parking like that, or we all can park like numptys..
Van blocking the highway
Ointeresting seeing Tata having their own ambulance. Many years ago, when i worked at Unipart, they had their own fire engine!
Typical, the Police believe the security and will not check the land registry or council. i wish this had been taken to court.
They never seem to make or show clear boundaries.
Kopz say they don’t know, so you must believe them !!!!
When the police are confronted with their own incompetence they always say ' make a complaint if you want to' because they know there own management and higher grades are just as useless and dishonest.
Lovely clouds.
The paramedic came out ,just in case the woman security had to walk after tga
Genuine question, can you have a public order offence on private property?
"Public" order offence ? according to them you're not in public (not sure how that works)
@TheGwentAuditorTGA
Ай бұрын
Public place by definition regardless, at the material time the public have access, even if that section at the junction isn’t publicly owned
@sprinkz6187
Ай бұрын
@@TheGwentAuditorTGA Oh,ok, just seems they've got an arrest excuse for anything nowadays, is nowhere sacred anymore 😞😁
@TheGwentAuditorTGA
Ай бұрын
@@sprinkz6187 and yeah seems so, if I didn’t have to get up the next day, probably would’ve taken the arrest, in normal circumstances anyway, we live and we learn. NNY did the same recently in Leeds
Kermit's girlfriend is now a security guard driving a nice clean vehicle.
Piers all of them and the police are being bullies
It's quite clear that police aren't meant to get involved in civil matters. Also, if he's tried to argue it's not a public place then ask him if they public order act would apply if you said something. He can't have it both ways
" I been watching you in the control room and your language body is threatening enough" Fook me, where do they find these idiots?????
What you have their is wrong, 😂 We are right without knowing what we are talking about 😂 Another case of security and Police getting together and bullying a member of the public undertaking a lawful act.
so not one bit of investigation or research..... no surprise there then.
@A2Z1Two3
Ай бұрын
The investigation and research had been done FOR THEM the twat of an officer just refused to accept it .
WHAT is the point of tarting a vehicle up like a fair wagon when it looks like a bin wagon ie bloody filthy, (WITH APOLOGIES TO BIN WAGONS)
Police lying and aggressive, SIA security lying, aggressive and acting criminally ie. no badge on display, what a disgrace. Great work from the council and auditor.
My understanding.Public lighting=public land!
Nothing like a hi-vis for extra special powers lol
@TheGwentAuditorTGA
Ай бұрын
Funny thing is, I was wearing a hi vis too lol
@resist.
Ай бұрын
@@TheGwentAuditorTGA lol, yes but yours didn't have that special logo on, lol
@TheGwentAuditorTGA
Ай бұрын
@@resist. lol, true 😂
Bleeding spam ads will break your heart.
Found a couple of old boilers there.
No balls, just stand for something or stop doing this. Come on stand up to them they are disgusting. You could have said I refuse. They are just pushing their luck.
SIA refuser was arrogant, refused to even accept heCOULD be wrong
@micksmixxx
Ай бұрын
@A2Z1Two3. He WAS wrong! The following Gov.uk webpage states, " it is a condition of your licensed status that you wear the licence where the front can be seen at all times when engaging in designated licensable activity unless you have reported it lost or stolen, or it is in our possession. The exceptions to this are if you can demonstrate that the nature of that conduct on that occasion requires that you should not be immediately identifiable as someone engaging in such conduct. On such occasions you must carry your licence on you and be able to produce it on request. This allows store detectives or close protection operatives to perform licensable activities without the need to be identifiable. This cannot apply to vehicle immobilisers." www.gov.uk/government/publications/displaying-a-front-line-sia-licence/displaying-a-front-line-sia-licence
Loved the start of the Vid, great research
My first video of yours. SUBSCRIBED! Cymru am byth 🏴
Do they pay this security women by the hour or by the pound. If it's by the latter she must be loaded.
Imagine waking up and seeing that looking at you?
The steel works aren't closing down, the blast furnaces are closing down and being replaced by a new system that will recycle old steel
Please, please,please, when you go anywhere like this aproach from known public area and video the lampcolumns, street furnature. if local authority it will have a ID number painted on it, as long as that format continues you will be on public land for sure. Also when you contact the Rights of Way Officer get a measurement from a given piont, that way there can be no srguement. I know this from a career in civil engineering, Get the RoWOs reply in an email and show it to the police, The RoW Officer at the local Authority has last word on any right of way that no court can overrule as his evidence originate from the definative map (that he is responsible for updating) which a court would have to refer to.
@TheGwentAuditorTGA
Ай бұрын
Thanks for the tip
@nigelleyland166
Ай бұрын
@@TheGwentAuditorTGA You are more than welcome, least I can do in return for 'entertainment'.
@TheGrimReaper1
Ай бұрын
Yes it made for a very interesting video with those ill informed people including the Hedlu Police throwing their weight about (again), I cant wait for round two. The “Streisand Effect” has nothing on this skulduggery, this chicanery. It may be the case that people from all over the world will be wanting to pay a visit to walk down that bit of public road, some putting their thumbs in their ears and waggling their fingers at them. Vans selling fish and chips and hot dogs will be doing a roaring trade to the gathered masses.😀.
Great video pal 👍
@TheGwentAuditorTGA
Ай бұрын
Thank you
Piggy had absolute no idea where property line was, just went by what the security told him.
@patrickdaly2121
Ай бұрын
The police need to stop giving unlawful orders and do their research before they give support to compulsive liars.
Copper couldn't prove you were on private land and was happy to arrest you for public order without even reviewing the footage, as for that woman, it's nice to see her representing the dragon on the Welsh flag.
I love the way that the bearded one wears his taser low-slung on his thigh - just like the old gun-fighters of the Wild West.
Why did you not stay there? You have the rite to stay and you know it!!
Stand up to these cowardly officers, don’t stand under their unlawful directives , just don’t listen.
100% would of stayed where I was until I could see his badge, showing me that he had some sort of authority..
Went down to that road this afternoon, took some pics and vids, the street lights on the road down to the turning to ABP are all numbered, NPTC, 1 to 6, Publicly maintained, Stopped at the junction, started to take some videos of the Blast Furnaces, Security came rushing out of his little wendy house waving his arms like a demented tart, he got short shrift and told to do one, went down to the gate house to the security hut at ABP, but not manned, I need info on getting onto ABP to take the drone over, went back to the maintained road, security van came but stayed in the lane, wasnt till I saw the other lamp post on opposite side had a NPTC highways sign on it and went over to take a pic did he come over to me, nice chap, no problems with me, spoke curtious to me, he had seen the video, think they now know that that part is not controlled by TATA, all he asked was I didnt go any further towards the security hut, which I dont need too, couldnt get the drone up to video the blast furnaces as its too windy, again, your video has certainly has been seen by them, I did mention the Sgt who got it all wrong and the dreadfull Bovine who shouted her mouth off, he didnt want to comment lol.
Well they will be out of work by the end of the year, feel sorry for the other 2998
When I watch the videos of all the auditors (witch I love) and read the comments and add a comment I am running out of superlatives because the police and employees are still not getting the training 💔🇬🇧
The streetlights on that road are the same as on the roundabout, so these streetlights belong to the council. The council doesn't install streetlight on private property.
that ambulance driver eats steel - gruesome
"Language body" got me 😂
get a printout from the council with covering letter & go back there. Take photo copies of this & when police come & threaten you with arrest, show police the council letter & map & if they arrest you after proving you are on public land, then police will have to pay significant compensation to you
mass audit with top boy dj and mass drones lol
once again you see that big business have the police in their pocket
The police attended so Obviously no crime was committed
In this incident, if have no were specific to be, should of let them arrest you, take it to court, CPS will probably drop it before it even gets anywhere and then sued the police and also the site as well, HNK solicitors would be able to assist
Back in the eighties we called those fellas road fillings.
Tag-team to Tata
Great video TGA 👍⭐⭐⭐⭐ Based on no pavement or road asphalt transition joints, the crosswalk positioned past the T intersection on right and Tata sign past the intersection on left, it reasonable to believe the public right of way and access continues to the crosswalk. The property line is at the lamp post before the intersection but there is no signage or indicators of the private property line shown on Land Registry. If the Council adopted road does end before the T intersection, the property owner should provide notification to the public at the line. If the Council adopted road continues through the T intersections, they were liars. Wonder what road construction drawings and plats show for the extent of public right of way. Checking the footpath map site based on definitive maps, it shows the public right of way continuous to each gate which makes it appear the Council maintained road continuous to the gates. >>> More than reasonable for the public to believe the Council adopted road continues to the crosswalk and Tata sign as in many cases.
@TheGwentAuditorTGA
Ай бұрын
It’s confirmed by Neath Port Talbot council now anyway, so I’ll be going back. Sadly, didn’t get the call back till I’d already left. If I’d had the call then and there from NPT Council, I’d have been straight back up there. So big respect to the council. I’m going live there when I go back, so it’ll all be on live
@TheGwentAuditorTGA
Ай бұрын
And thank you. Think a return with a live stream has to be done
@NarnianRailway
Ай бұрын
Also noticed on the google aerial, the storm drains on the opposite side of the road continue to the main gate, further indicating the Council likely maintains the road up to the main gate and the crosswalk on the side road, past the T intersection.
@TheGwentAuditorTGA
Ай бұрын
@@NarnianRailway It is confirmed as a council adopted highway anyway, so I’ve got that on my side now
@NarnianRailway
Ай бұрын
@@TheGwentAuditorTGA Thank You for the update the Council confirmed they did adopt the 'Access Road Off Harbour Way.' The location is good example that Land Registry does not indicate status of adopted roads. This is easy to see on newer industrial estate access roads and roundabouts. Appears Turdturd Steel, oops Tata, simply look at the property line like Land Registry and blatantly ignore the Council road adoption and public access. Looking forward to your return visit to the Council adopted Access Road off Harbour Way.
That is so clearly an adopted highway.
@davidsmith7001
Ай бұрын
unbelievagle
@davidsmith7001
Ай бұрын
agreed
You did lose the high ground by swearing earlier but then they were saying if you don’t leave, they might take a complaint or even arrest you for not leaving. Blackmail arrests never work for plod
that ambulance driver has more breaks than a snooker player.
My son flew his drone all over the works a few weeks ago from the roundabout you just left. I was waiting for issues from them but they never came, he had some really good footage.
@TheGwentAuditorTGA
Ай бұрын
Nice one, I’ll take mine up when I go back if it’s not too windy
You should be able to determine absolutely where the boundary is. Find the public area and stay there. She clearly told everyone how well she’d done by getting the police to remove you. It’s hard to see what good you’ve done there. Start and end at the same place and your story becomes so powerful.