I’m a long time customer of yours and I just want to say you guys got real lucky, someone is definitely watching over you good luck this coming race season

@sportbiketrackgear

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your support, it is appreciated. We for sure had and angel with us. Happy no one was hurt. - Van

WOW! Thank god you guys made it home. That’s very scary! I went out and checked my 10 yr old Lark trailer and it’s still perfect. Them trailers must be junk!

@sportbiketrackgear

3 ай бұрын

It was a miracle we made it home. - Van

Sheeesh. That's one of the worst trailer failures I've seen. Thank the Big Guy upstairs that everyone made it home safely.

@sportbiketrackgear

2 ай бұрын

We 100% had Jesus on our team for that trip. Thankful we made it home and no one got hurt. - Van

...That's nucken futs! IMHO the Legend trailer should have had significant reinforcement where the torsion axels are/were mounted to the frame... It also makes me question using aluminum for the primary structure component/frame-rail... The new trailer looks awesome, great job with your prep/setup work.

@sportbiketrackgear

2 ай бұрын

After a full season with the Intech I have crawled around under it to have a look and there are no issues. They are using large steel angle iron to mount the axles to then bolting that to the aluminum trailer frame. - Van

Brother you don’t age , looking buff 💪🏽. Glad you and the family made it home safe. Best of luck to Max this year .

@sportbiketrackgear

Жыл бұрын

We are excited to get the season started. Thanks for watching and the kind words! - Van

Great videos!

Thats f**king crazy. Glad your all ok. Good luck to Max this season.

@sportbiketrackgear

Жыл бұрын

Jesus was on our team that day for sure. Blessed. Looking forward to the start of the season next weekend! - Van

Thank goodness nobody was hurt.

@sportbiketrackgear

3 ай бұрын

It was a miracle we made it home. - Van

You guys are lucky to be around to shoot this video. I definitely have some trailering stories but I've never seen anything like this. This definitely could have gone much differently.

@sportbiketrackgear

Жыл бұрын

100% had Jesus on our team that day man!

You're the real Legend, Brian. Imagine if there were a group of motorcycles behind your trailer and the axle came loose and took out the motorcyclists? This is why a motorcyclist should stay away from tractor trailers and any vehicle that is towing something because if a trailer isn't hinged properly, or an item isn't strapped down properly, it's game over for the biker. Hope all is good with your new Intech trailer. Go get'em, Max Van! ☘

@sportbiketrackgear

Жыл бұрын

I am confident the new trailer will serve us well. Go 48!!! - Van

Wow that’s insane! Glad you guys are okay.

@sportbiketrackgear

Жыл бұрын

We got very lucky on this trip for sure. - Van

What an incredible failure. I'm glad you're using your platform to get the word out. I hope the manufacturer takes it seriously and makes real changes based on this situation. Seems more likely they will try to somehow blame it on operator error and ignore the issue.

@sportbiketrackgear

Жыл бұрын

It was a miracle we made it home without causing a huge accident on the freeway. - Van

That is scary. Final Destination is spot on. I was expecting maybe a single broken weld or a smoked hub/bearing.. the whole axle?? Glad no one got hurt. The timing is kinda terrible, but it looks we'll still see y'all in Atlanta. Hopefully there are no more surprises. Travel safe!

@sportbiketrackgear

Жыл бұрын

We will 100% see you at Atlanta. I would not post a video like this for a small problem that could easily be repaired. IMO this is beyond repair and people shopping for a trailer could benefit from this information. - Van

Superb buddy.... Awesome 👍😎😎

@sportbiketrackgear

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! - Van

Looking shredded dude 👍

@sportbiketrackgear

Жыл бұрын

Just trying to keep up with Max Van LOL. Thanks for watching! - Van

Glad you could tell us the story

@sportbiketrackgear

11 ай бұрын

If this would have come off on the freeway it would have been a disaster. - Van

Wow!!! The Good Lord was definitely watching over. That could have been a major disaster! New trailer looks gorgeous! Keep us posted on what Legend has to say, if anything.

@sportbiketrackgear

Жыл бұрын

I have been in contact with them and discovered the lifetime warranty on the frame leaves a little to be desired. My plan is to file an insurance claim. - Van

😂 very entertaining vid mr.Van

@sportbiketrackgear

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching! - Van

Sweet rig

I feel so bad man! Do you have insurance on the old trailer? But the brand new trailer is night and day diffrence! Congrats and keep the hard work going and JESUS bless!

@sportbiketrackgear

Жыл бұрын

My plan is to turn this into the insurance. Shot this video to share this with others shopping for a new trailer. We were blessed to make it home with no one getting hurt. - Van

You know BV gave this trailer company a shot to make this right.... They done messed up LOL

@sportbiketrackgear

Жыл бұрын

Yes I have been in contact with them more than once. When I look at this trailer I see a scrap pile that I would never trust hauling my shit with. They suggest I take the axle that fell off and put it in the trailer then drive it to their facility on the axle that is only half broken off. - Van

@walterwilmoth8390

Жыл бұрын

​@Sportbike Track Gear hahaha you gotta be kidding me. That's service baby

@petecastiglione9710

Жыл бұрын

@@sportbiketrackgear YGBFKM! That is the worst idea I’ve ever heard. That needs to be loaded up on a flat hauler to their facility. I’m sure your insurance would agree.

@sebg2086

Ай бұрын

pretty rusty for a 2 year old.......

Holy shit!!!!! Great new purchase.

@sportbiketrackgear

Жыл бұрын

This was not money well spent. - Van

You missed your opportunity "Everyone Loves Jacked Up Sh*t"

@sportbiketrackgear

Жыл бұрын

Missing axle and a missed opportunity! - Van

Legand has it that Legend will forever hate this vid... lol... but on the real, im glad no Final Destination shit happened and everyone is ok..

@sportbiketrackgear

Жыл бұрын

I almost shit when I jacked up the trailer. We 100% had Jesus on our team the whole ride home. - Van

That is nuts for a 2yo trailer!!!

@sportbiketrackgear

Жыл бұрын

This was the last thing I expected to see when I jacked up the trailer for sure. - Van

Thank you Jesus got you a thumbs up!

@sportbiketrackgear

2 ай бұрын

Still can't believe we made it home without issue. - Van

@simontempler3239

2 ай бұрын

@@sportbiketrackgear He had your back..

some lightweight welds there

@sportbiketrackgear

Жыл бұрын

IMO the issue is welding the axle hangers to the frame. Looking at how and where this failed I think the right way to do this would be to use one long axle hanger for both axles and bolt it to the frame. This is how the Featherlite trailer I had was built and how the new Intech was done. - Van

The lack of quality in trailer construction is baffling. Bearings are made of butter too.

@sportbiketrackgear

Жыл бұрын

Really disappointed in this trailer. - Van

I hear you. I own a Legend (single axle) , so far so good. But now that you mention it, I will lift it and have it re-enforced. I once blew a tire on it coming into Miami on I-95 and it took the entire fender right off of the trailer (on a 6 feet wide, the fender is outside the trailer) including a backup light that I had installed on the fender. I have since re-enforced the fender mounting points in a way that if the tires decide to blow again, they won’t take the fenders off. Turns out the tires are only good for 10 years these days. After ten years, watch out.

@gerrycout7845

Жыл бұрын

Ok. So I just went outside and crawled under my trailer and looked carefully. It’s a Legend 6X12 V nose. 2007 model year. Then I looked at your video again very carefully and sure enough, they are not built the same way. Different size trailer so that’s probably why. The bolts that hold the axle to the frame on mine go straight through the beam and I can see the heads on top of the frame. But they also re-enforced the top of the frame with an additional 3/8 inch thick aluminum plate so that the bolts cannot rip through the frame. The only way the axle is coming off is if the entire frame rips off. Not just the bottom of the frame like on your trailer. On your trailer, from what I can tell the bolts that hold the axles are installed sideways and the 90° aluminum pieces that hold those axles are then welded to the main frame. Best of luck with this situation. Definitely not a good one.

@sportbiketrackgear

Жыл бұрын

This is what insurance is for. No one got hurt is all I care about. - Van

Facebook market place bout to be FLOODED with Legend trailers for sale . . . 😂

@sportbiketrackgear

Жыл бұрын

LOL I bet there are a lot of people looking under their trailers right now. - Van

It also looks like there is a fracture near the front axle too, using that wall thickness on the main chassis rails is insane to me, and in aluminium, AND the have welds near the most stressed area where the axles are mounted, I wouldn't be surprised if half of those legend trailers out there have fatigue cracks.

@sportbiketrackgear

3 ай бұрын

This is a snowmobile trailer that we were using for sleds and bikes. With the cross country miles to race MotoAmerica it received like 50K miles before it completely failed (odds are it was starting to fail much earlier). Most sledders would never put that many miles on in a trailers lifetime. When I spoke to Legend they told be the miles were irrelevant and the trailer should last hundreds of thousands of miles with proper upkeep. Hard to say how many others will have issues. Now I get under my Intech trailer every couple of rounds, still looks great with like 17k miles. - Van

@longdaysandhardworkatramra8260

3 ай бұрын

@@sportbiketrackgear Far-out that is a lot of miles of towing, I had a look on Intechs site and their chassis material looks better and the axles look like they have angle iron between them and the chassis, spreading the load, no welds on alloy and the axles are connected too so the uhhh wheels don't fall off, which is not ideal.

Sent it a little to hard!!!!! hahah

@sportbiketrackgear

Жыл бұрын

This POS is about to be sent to the junk yard where it belongs. - Van

These aluminum trailers just don't hold up it seems. We have a 12' little open deck type trailer with sort railings around 3 sides. The tongue broke completely off the trailer one day.

@sportbiketrackgear

2 ай бұрын

I had an all aluminum Featherlite that we bought used and hauled sleds and bikes with for many seasons. It was a 2005 that we used until 2021. The aluminum frame had no issues. - Van

Am glad you did not have a trailer tragedy.

@sportbiketrackgear

Жыл бұрын

We are on the same page bro. - Van

I'm very surprised the legend trailer doesn't have any suspension. The thin frame rails couldn't handle the Michigan road abuse. lol

@madviking1320

Жыл бұрын

There is suspension. They are called torsion axles, probably made by Dexter. The way the suspension is mounted to the frame is what failed.

@sportbiketrackgear

Жыл бұрын

As the Viking stated they are torsion axles. - Van

Never have seen a rigid trailer axle before. Even mobile homes have leaf springs. What a crappy setup...

@sportbiketrackgear

2 ай бұрын

These are torsion axles with the torsion spring in the tube. - Van

Thin aluminum frame rails suck. There is a reason for everything.

@sportbiketrackgear

Ай бұрын

End of the day this design will not stand up to the type of mileage we put on our race trailer. The new one has steel axle hangers bolted to the aluminum frame of the trailer. - Van

@Kwhopperfan

Ай бұрын

@@sportbiketrackgear that’s a better design for sure, if you’re lucky the aluminum will be thicker. We can hope that they put a corrosion barrier between the bracket and aluminum as I’ve seen them heavily corrode due to the interaction of the two metals. It looks like a great trailer, with one that long I’d be cautious about overloading due to its size and open layout 👍🏼

I swear I seen a brocks logo on that Axle😅

@sportbiketrackgear

Жыл бұрын

LOL thanks for watching. - Van

Did you mount the Pit-Bull restraints to the floor with riv nuts too?

@sportbiketrackgear

Жыл бұрын

The new trailer has an extruded aluminum floor so I used a trailer restraint plate on both sides of the floor for added strength. These were mounted with the hardware supplied with the plates. Everything I mounted on the walls was done with rivet nuts. All anchors on the floor are through bolts. - Van

@rlkirkland

Жыл бұрын

👍🏻Thanks. Drilled trough the floor then?

Wow. I came very close to buying a Legend as I like a lot of their manufacturing methods, specifically the ramp door. Ended up going to Neo. I assume you reached out to Legend? If so, what was their response? No excuse for not correcting a design issue...

@sportbiketrackgear

Жыл бұрын

I reached out to them and the suggested I put the axle that is no longer attached in the trailer and haul it to their facility for repair on the one axle that is only half broken off. - Van

@madviking1320

Жыл бұрын

@@sportbiketrackgear On their dime? Things happen, so as long as they are willing to fix it. From what I recall, there was a lifetime warranty on the frame. It would be a huge inconvenience, but at least they are local to you.

Holy damn! That's crazy for a two year old.

@sportbiketrackgear

Жыл бұрын

My jaw hit the floor when I jacked it up. - Van

Pretty wild... To be honest, that trailer could've used an extra plate of aluminum to support the axles, but you don't have to file on your insurance if you don't want to go that route. I'd just go but some 3/8" aluminum or stainless stock and cut it to reinforce the mounting points of the axles. Take both axles of and run The material 1.5' past the centers and it's better than the trailer would ever have at been new. I'd fix it and it would take more than an afternoon to make it better than it they built it. There's no way that they can expect that thin of aluminum or stainless to support the load without frame reinforcement. One odd thing on the highway would cause perforation that will begin the failure with such thin material and hard-mounted axles. As the leading axle hits an object, the railing axle will always try to jump downwards. *To clarify after I posted it, I'm talking about TIG welding it.* It honestly looks like aluminum to me and they do make them... If it's stainless or aluminum, it more than likely could have been created by a star fissure, a crack forming condition when you're welding and the metal is rapidly cooled as well as starving the puddle of filler metal. Take a walk around it and look for starts and stops, if you see and fisheye with a deep dimple at the start/finish of a weld... She's eventually going to blow!

@sportbiketrackgear

Жыл бұрын

I do not plan on pulling this trailer again after this experience. This is what we pay insurance premiums for. - Van

@Aint1S

Жыл бұрын

@@sportbiketrackgear I don't blame you... I know I wouldn't have brought up overbuilding a poorly built trailer had I not been proficient in TIG welding. It begs the question, if one star fissure failed you already, how many more are there on that trailer just waiting to crack right down the entire weld? 🤔 I'm curious as to what weight they rated this trailer because it's not small; I'm assuming it's used as a sxs utv or tool trailer.

They should've used water proof glue to mount these axle brackets!

@sportbiketrackgear

Жыл бұрын

Anything would have been better than what they did. - Van

Wow 😳😳😳 that's just plain neglect with manufacturing bro, that axle was not even properly gussetted, or reinforced, that could of turned out very differently, I'm glad you guys made it home safely, and do not, I repeat, do not allow this company to get away with that, man that's some jacked up shyt, I'm sure after insurance looks at that, there should be an investigation, that is not the proper channel nor securement for them axles man, glad you got a new trailer, jack that one up and look at the difference on how the axles are mounted, and channel used.

@sportbiketrackgear

Жыл бұрын

I think it failed because of how they had the axle hangers welded to the frame. They should have used one long axle hanger for both axles and bolted it to the frame. End of the day I am just happy no one got hurt. - Van

Legends sucks but they have a pretty good advertising department.

@sportbiketrackgear

Жыл бұрын

I think they need to rethink the way they attach the axle hangers to the frame for sure. - Van

Relax bro!! The other axle is still solid!! Probably could of got another year out of it!! Stop whinging!! Did you reach out to legend? Maybe they are willing to work with you, perhaps a refund

@sportbiketrackgear

Жыл бұрын

I would not even hook this up to my truck now. Of course I have contacted them. They suggested I put the axle that is no longer attached in the trailer and tow it to their facility with the one that is about to fall off. 100% not gonna happen. $22,000 and the frame only made it 2 years... - Van

Just curious, how do you differentiate between a single bad example of a product, and a bad product line or a bad company? It seems like you had a legitimately bad experience with this product. And, now you’re sour on the whole company. I’m not for or against any of these toy haulers. You do you. Just checking in to see if you’ve heard about a pattern of issues in your research.

@sportbiketrackgear

Жыл бұрын

This is not like the lights quit working, the entire frame ate itself. This is good information for people shopping for trailers. If you had an axle fall off a two year old trailer ask yourself if you would choose that brand again? - Van

@zero11010

Жыл бұрын

@@sportbiketrackgear I get you, and I’m on your side. I’m just saying, people have had critical failures on Yamaha motorcycles (for example). That doesn’t mean the whole brand is bad. Totally up to the individual to make their decision based on their feelings and their experience. No harm in that. 👍 I’m wondering if during your research you uncovered other people who ran into similar kinds of issues. Is this a pattern for the brand, or is this a video of one data point and one example of a critical product failure?

Th a t hurt Brian😂

@sportbiketrackgear

Жыл бұрын

Another speed bump in the road of life. - Van

Can't hide money😂

@sportbiketrackgear

Жыл бұрын

You could hide a pile of it in the broken frame rail of this trailer! - Van