The fact Corporations treat our environment as an externality and we allow them to get away with that means we're all doomed. Solidarity = survival

@ttystikkrocks1042

2 жыл бұрын

This is critically important. Why aren't all those plastic bottles coca cola's problem instead of everyone else's?

@kathknoll9286

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for articulating this have been thinking this for years!!

@JH-pt6ih

2 жыл бұрын

@Richard Gilley We don’t have a sustainable forestry. Maybe if you believe monocrops doused with herbicides and insecticide and “forests” of spindly softwoods lined in rows replacing older growth, hardwoods, diversity of all flora and fauna and not to mention the destruction of wetlands is a sustainable forestry industry. It’s not. It’s how the lumber companies decided it was going to be defined and they told the politicians and the politicians instructed their red and blue pawns to accept it and they did - and a bunch of bought off “environmentalists” helped that fiction be told.

@saskk2290

2 жыл бұрын

@@JH-pt6ih Greenwashing at this critical hour is beyond nauseating

@JH-pt6ih

2 жыл бұрын

@@saskk2290 I don’t know what you are getting at.

Thank you, Yanis Varoufakis for everything you do to stand up against the ideological absolutism of the capitalists.

@Skabanis

2 жыл бұрын

I am a Greek and this guy is a clown! When Greece needed him the most he dipped out like a coward! He is a over read Marxist, who was also a lazy bum and leached off his family complaining!

@sharondavid-melly1498

2 жыл бұрын

@@Skabanis Well he's quite a thinker and makes sense.

@neebomb2511

Жыл бұрын

Yanis is the Greek hero of our time that the world needs.

"Adults In The Room" is a terrific read! Free Julian Assange & Leonard Peltier!

@DrDanWeaver

2 жыл бұрын

Yes it is, and Yanis book Talking to My Daughter About Economics also FANTASTIC.

@chriswolff3893

2 жыл бұрын

Screw Julian Assange....he ain't on our side

This is Revolution is one of the best political shows out there right now. However, I am with Varoufakis on Star Trek being better than Star Wars.

@rhonda6791

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry, not 4, 5 or 6.

@nikolademitri731

2 жыл бұрын

@@rhonda6791 movie wise, those are better than any Star Trek movies, agreed. In terms of Star Trek’s world, and the best of the series (and earlier films), I think Star Trek is where it’s at. Still, the OG Star Wars movies are so goddamn good; 4 and 5 being perfect films, and 6 being a 9/10 film. I can’t say that about any Star Trek movies.

@rhonda6791

2 жыл бұрын

@@nikolademitri731 Hi Nicola, I see what you mean by the whole Star Trek world. I’m reading a Star Wars book with one of the kids I teach, The Master And Apprentice. Obi Wan is young and Qui Gon is his master. It’s really good. Who’s your favourite Star Wars character? Of course I love Obi Wan but for me it’s Darth Vader.

@saeedhossain6099

2 жыл бұрын

star wars is a space opera, star trek is the real world in digestible doses

@rhonda6791

2 жыл бұрын

@@saeedhossain6099 Interesting, thank you.

A good human being! Love this man!

Only tuned in for Yanis but am most pleasantly surprised. Almost forgot what real substance looks like.

I urge anyone who is a staunch defender of capitalism to listen to this man, he is the arrow that pierces through the deep fog of deception.

@lyndonbarsten393

2 жыл бұрын

What does it mean to support Capitalism, if it always becomes fascism/kleptocracy/oligarchy?

@phookadude

2 жыл бұрын

@@lyndonbarsten393 Because Socialism turns into fascism/kleptocracy/oligarchy in terms of years (if it doesn't start that way) as opposed to terms of decades like capitalism. The real problem is too much government power. Socialism is about government control of the economy so the government oppression of the people gets a head start with socialism. The path to freedom is to limit the power of the government and the wealthy.

@NotShowingOff

2 жыл бұрын

@@phookadude you aren’t getting it. You are worried about fascism to you. But the reason why your gas is cheaper than is should be is because of fascism in other countries. Other countries pay ppl less and have lower quality of life flap your gas is cheap. What if Saudi Arabia was a true democracy? Gas bill oils be more expensive to you, do you agree?

@phookadude

2 жыл бұрын

@@NotShowingOff The US was energy independent a couple of years ago which drove oil prices to all time lows. Venezuela is a perfect example of socialism's failure as they have the largest oil reserves in the world and one of the wealthiest populations in the 1960's and over 60 years of nationalization and kleptocractic governments they are a failed state. If any country could have made socialism work it would be Venezuela but all you need to know about it is Hugo Chavez's daughter is a multi billionaire from government sources. Governments are made of people and no people should be trusted with anywhere near the power a socialist government requires.

@bikesgoodgasbad

2 жыл бұрын

@@phookadude how can the power of the wealthy be limited

Conservatives love to claim that we leftists "don't know basic economics"- in fact, the more I learn about economics & listen to the perspective of people like Varofaukis who are outside the narrow neoliberal orthodoxy, the more socialister I become.

@ivandafoe5451

2 жыл бұрын

They want us to believe there is only one way for economics to work...their way.

I've seen several of Yanis' speeches and read a couple of his books. He is the best explainer I know of when it comes to the global economic system. Unfortunately, most people are not open to even considering his ideas, preferring instead to accept what corporate media tells them.

@shyman3000

2 жыл бұрын

"Talking to my Daughter about the Economy" is such a great book. If you can get people to read one book it should be that one. I always recommend it.

@macgp44

2 жыл бұрын

@@shyman3000 That one I listened to - audiobook. It is excellent, as it is written for the layman and explained with examples everyone can understand.

@13strandquistc

2 жыл бұрын

@@shyman3000 awesome book, his new sci fi one is even better. One of the best I've read in years

@shyman3000

2 жыл бұрын

@@13strandquistc From what i heard him describe made me think of Aldous Huxley who is a favorite of mine. I will have to check it out.

@13strandquistc

2 жыл бұрын

@@shyman3000 Probably more similar. His is closer to utopian fiction, which right now is so refreshing to read something hopeful and forward thinking, instead of reading the same old "capitalism bad" dystopian fiction.

Wow, opened my eyes. Thank you for helping me see the light.

Capitalism can only exist as a positive force in society if corporations and monopolies are outlawed. Otherwise, financial power will always get consolidated at the very top. Love listening to Yanis speak!

I am with Varoufakis all the way, with one caveat, that we shouldn't implicitly or explicitly disrespect the efforts of labor activists, many of whom died to get the concessions described (ca 1932-91). Even if it wouldn't have happened without the competition of communism as a system, those people still did what they did, and did it for us. Love the forum, the hosts are fantastic, so on topic and well versed and extra hosty. Thanks for getting YV on!

Varoufakis is such an interesting man to listen to. Well read with a deep understanding of history.

"I always blame the Left" -- understood properly, this is a strategically crucial insight. So many of the struggles and paths taken by the leftist leaderships of the 20th and 21st century come down to a loss of nerve at the critical moment, with Tsipras being a relevant example. That loss of nerve is not fundamentally a matter of moral character, it is rooted in historical perspective and a sober yet robust confidence in the creative capacities of the working class. The balance of forces won't always be in our favor, so defeats are inevitable. But there have been many occasions where the opposite was the case, and the struggle was not for the ruling class to win, but for the working class to lose -- not through any fault of their own, but as a consequence of the failures of leadership. It is something of an ideological act of cowardice to say after the fact, "well, the defeat was overdetermined" and absolve oneself of any serious insight and responsibility. Lessons have to be learned, not to moralistically separate saints from sinners, but because objectively assessing historical experience is of strategic importance to the international working class.

@GreenLarsen

2 жыл бұрын

So well said

@DanielBurtonDidYourWife

2 жыл бұрын

Very well said Mr. Marothy ;)! I'm someone whose quite obsessed with strategy and the one thing I always want remind my comrades to shift from just general criticism and engage more in constructive criticism. The former could at best be self-indulgent, whilst the latter serves the purpose of advancing our overall cause.

5:28 Quote from Another Now: underlaying concerns of a dystopian future . 6:20 foregrounding science fiction 6:40 Indigenous Australian “Dreaming” had been evolving over 40,000 years, until European “Invasion”. It mythologised origin, explained language, organised country and ancestral families and laws over property and for governance. It wasn’t the imagining of things that didn’t exist but instead of existence itself as it was - until the cultural break. Reaccumulation is only 250 years young, we still have lots of time. Possibility is an inherent part of story itself. Science Fiction is the fictionalised possibilities of science infused with the everyday, and that dreaming is still with us and largely forms the dominant origin story since the birth of the industrial revolution. Science has been with all humans and possibly all human types forever and possibly is the early example of our abstract thinking ability and as such is a wonderful cladistic grouping, of similarity not differences. 8:50 Techno Feudalism 15:55 “50plus Year Counter Revolution context - brilliant. 28:00 Counter 34:17 The reality of Techno Feudalism for traditional Labour. 40:54 Wtf 😳 happened with Syriza!? 47:17 Star Wars vs Star Trek - who owns the universe debate - rescheduled for another Galaxy quadrant. 48:31 Q: The inability of the left today to capture the imagination of black and brown people in America. ( timing the conversation out is for my own records - it’s an important theory - it was nothing more than that) Indigenous Dreaming doesn’t fit neatly into western narratives, it very much part of the reason they have remain culturally seperate despite having lived along side each other for over two hundred years. There were over 500 different clan groups or 'nations' around the continent, many with distinctive cultures, beliefs and languages so which one are you talking about. Not all nations got along together just like today, some could easily said to be liberals, other conservatives and others again socialist and even Maoist’s.

@LaFinAbsoluteduMonde

2 жыл бұрын

Kym, YOU'RE BRILLIANT! Now I can clip these for our channel!! (this is Jason from TIR)

@KymHammond

2 жыл бұрын

@@LaFinAbsoluteduMonde Hi Jason, nice to meet you.

@KymHammond

2 жыл бұрын

@Huai Danny I imagine a lot of its to do with initially the focus and it’s nature via Marxism on a specific epoch: the enlightenment onwards.

@El_Chuncho

2 жыл бұрын

You the real MVP. 🥂

@KymHammond

2 жыл бұрын

@Teratology was just another rationalisation she had about the efficiency of output.

So happy to see yall speaking with Yanis. One thing to add to his point at the beginning about platforms like Alexa and Google maps extracting value without compensation--all these platforms and algorithms, e.g. Google translate, are harvesting & aggregating the labor of millions of real, human translators and writers and speakers and laborers that they cannot function without; they are all completely built and made better by our participation and data

Techno-feudalism = the WEF's goal.

That doom metal over Bolshevik footage is badass as fuck. I love it. 👍

@LaFinAbsoluteduMonde

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! It's my band (Jason from the show THIS IS REVOLUTION>podcast). Look up Bitter Lake, hella stuff on Bandcamp and Spotify, etc.

The most enlightening and informative program and discussion that I have ever witnessed and listen to! All three of you guys I’ve blown my mind and expanded it in ways I could never have imagined! Infinite gratitude and appreciation for your generous contribution to The successful continuation of our species and it’s attempt to be civilized......🕊🦋⚖️⏰❗️🖖❗️🖖❗️🖖❗️🖖

I try to catch Yanis each time a recent interview appears. This was an excellent session! Trekkies of the world, unite! Thank you Jason and Pascal for great questions.

@lizhyink5636

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, overall this was really interesting. Pascal and Jason tied sci-fi in well towards the last question...( Speaking of political and class divides in this context, "The Expanse" series comes to mind : )

Absolutely on mark…I’ve worked in corporate America my whole life and it’s truly beyond anything I’ve ever seen.

@RussCR5187

2 жыл бұрын

I was with Yanis until what I understood him to say about centralized digital currencies; i.e., that they are OK. Combined with a social credit system it gives the ruling elite an instant way to punish those who offer resistance to their rule. "Oh, you criticized Dear Leader? Don't expect to be able to buy groceries for two weeks."

@ithajean

Жыл бұрын

Job security is completely gone

Top quality content. Thank you guys!

excellent interview, really liked the questions.

This was a very fascinating interview. Great job guys.

Once again, fantastic content comrades. Love the way ya let Yanus just talk through it. Would like to here Pascal's response to Yanis''s take on last question ... after I enjoy a lengthy conversation about Stars Trek and War.

Yanis is the man. One of the few people on this planet that can give you the truth. Thank you for your dedication to truth and humanity.

@phookadude

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah who stole the idea of his novel from the movie "Moon".

This is a most awesome and informative interview guys... Thanks! Keep it up yo!

First show I've caught. Good stuff. Edit: whoa.😮

"Capitalism is the extraordinary belief that the nastiest of men for the nastiest of motives will somehow work for the benefit of all."

@KingOfShenanigan

2 жыл бұрын

No one believes that. Capitalism is not a belief, it's a material reality of society; it's a mode of production. Asserting that capitalism is a belief is equally absurd as asserting that slavery is a belief.

@art2736

2 жыл бұрын

@@KingOfShenanigan who you kidding? Capitalism is God in the states.

@KingOfShenanigan

2 жыл бұрын

@rockdale-gym Y'all are not understanding what I'm saying. CAPITALISM IS NOT JUST A BELIEF. Yes there is an ideological component to capitalism, but it's not just an ideology it is a mode of production. Hunter-gatherer, slave society, feudalism, socialism, are some other modes of production. All modes of production have their ideological components. For example, feudalism had ideological components such as the divine right of kings and noble blood, but that doesn't mean that feudalism was just a belief.

@treefrog3349

2 жыл бұрын

In a nutshell! Unfettered Capitalism has demonstrated for over a century that greed is NOT good for the betterment of the human experiment. Just a privileged few.

@esotericist6667

2 жыл бұрын

@@KingOfShenanigan You're splitting hairs. If the OP would have more specifically written something like, "Capitalism is legitimated by the extraordinary belief that [...]", would you have been satisfied?

I feel for Yanis when he said he's still recovering. Thank you Yanis for your vulnerability and continuing effort.

Thank you gentlemen for bringing us this interesting interview.

What a great interview & discussion! Thank you all.

Great interview with thoughtful questions. Glad to have found this channel!

Great questions n great Guest!

Thanks to you guys for creating yet another portal for enjoying and assimilating the thoughtfulness of Yanis Varoufakis. Do keep up the excellent work.

That was one of the best interviews with YV that I have seen. Enlightening and accurate

Amazing how this vid has only gotten a little over 50K views. Everyone should be having this conversation. Thank you, Gentlemen.

Wonderful and thought provoking show as always 🙏

Unfortunately, the voting age adults in "the land of the free and home of the brave" are not Greeks. I would be profoundly shocked to hear any american say, "I have only a small pension but gladly risk it for (eg.making fundamental change toward building a real democracy)". NEVER! Here It would be the exact opposite: "I have only a small pension that I will not risk losing! ~and all my friends feel the same way I got bills to pay, a family to support and I don't want them to be living out in the street~homeless! No! Forget it!!!!" Write your congressman!

@rogersmith7396

2 жыл бұрын

They are lap dog slaves. They always respond to their masters dog whistle. They are lobotomized.

@janosmarothy5409

2 жыл бұрын

It's a very different situation, don't be too down on American workers. You literally see the willingness to endure sacrifice if it means securing dignity in the longer term everytime you see a picket line in this country. the difference is we're in the belly of the beast whereas Greece is in the periphery of the EU and its experience of the crash was much more catastrophic and registered across social strata in starker ways.

@robertburatt

2 жыл бұрын

@@janosmarothy5409 All the more reason to enlarge expectations not based on the present and a return to a past that had significant vulnerabilities (eg. 1950's) but with a new vision of a future where such inhuman cruelties are the rare exceptions in both the political and economic domains.

@robertburatt

2 жыл бұрын

It's much more than dignity at issue here.

@janosmarothy5409

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertburatt Given that I'm talking about class struggle, Greece, and US picket lines, it's clear that dignity is shorthand for something else. I'll spell it out: the articulation of working class power on a socialist basis. And I don't mention dignity lightly, Varoufakis goes out of his way to stress the affirmation of _dignity_ (as against Troika-imposed _humilitation_ ) as a broadly felt subjective expression of outrage against the brutal imposition of austerity as an objective factor in Greek society.

Great interview with Varoufakis. You provided him with interesting questions to answer and a welcoming atmosphere. I watch all of the Varoufakis interviews. This was a really good one.

Love this guy. I also have been accused of having verbal diarrhea

Thank you all! Wonderful, pointed questions - substantial answers that address the questions! What a concept! Think it could catch on? Well-informed, articulate intelligence. I love it!

Wow! That last answer from Yanis was so damn insightful and spot on about what causes divisions amongst people.

As an American, I cheered when progressives won in Greece. I had hopes of a David and Goliath scenario and yes, I was hurt that they failed, but I definitely understand.

The plot of the book sounds a lot like the plot from "Moon".

@13strandquistc

2 жыл бұрын

The plot of the book is very different, it's just a quote explaining why he made it a sci Fi book. The book itself is an alternative history of the occupy Wall Street movement. Well worth checking out, it's one of my favorite books I've read in years.

LOVE YANIS!!! You guys are getting amazing guests. Yanis, Chris Hedges, amazing. Thank you!!

one thing is that the central banks in US and London are private, they are not state. then remember the supercomputors put inline with stock market? I think this is their way of siphoning out the 401k of the working folks retirement

@GrandmaCathy

2 жыл бұрын

100%!!

@johnd.ingleson799

2 жыл бұрын

It's a big club -- and you ain't in it! kzread.info/dash/bejne/gK2q2tZqo9neo9I.html

@rogersmith7396

2 жыл бұрын

Wall Street is a sham propped up by taxpayer spending. No one should have money in it. You snooze you loose. Its your problem not mine.

Great content guys!! Yanis never dissapoints!!! Thx guys

Phenomenal conversation!

Another great program - AND you still have the best intro anywhere. :)

I'm surprised Mr. Varoufakis' suggestion concerning an organized Black Friday event, including a 1 day Amazon boycott, was sort of ignored due to time constraints. These are tactics which must be considered, we have so little leverage and will never gain any if we don't push back, even if we lose.

Wow you guys and you Yanis what a revealing and stimulating discussion. I bet the people in power and the politicians they control pls the corporate press would not have had a clue and could not possibly enter a discussion like this. Thank you!

Fan-f-n-tastic interview!!! Thank you for such an indepth conversation.

That was amazing. I’m on my porch in the sun with a fire up here in Northern New Hampshire enjoying the shit out of this. I love you people.

Great interview! 👍

- Star Trek (pre-Abrams): Let's be logical and find a better way to resolve our problems than to polarize and kill each other. Set phasers to stun. Star Wars (pre and post-Abrams): Abandon rational thought, "trust your feelings," DO polarize (Light Side vs Dark Side). Light Saber in hand... Brain in neutral. -

@atomiccritter6492

2 жыл бұрын

star wars is about blowing up things

Well this is an exciting connection! Great to find you here!!! Loved you before, and still, even more! So you and Max Alvarez??? Awesome

Wonderful -- informative AND entertaining. Well done, all.

Great segment. Always enjoy Yanis's take on things

An absolute homerun...thanks to all involved!

Great questions, enjoyed the depth of the conversation.

excellent show, excellent guest and excellent questions prompting a great conversation---est stupendo.

With capitalism there is no real incentive by an individual or group to ensure the quality of life of all society. ALL wealth is produced by ALL of society....it just using natural resources to produce goods and then creating services. There is absolutely no blue print of how to distribute the wealth produced....actually it's " last pig to the trough gets no slop"....in other words " greed is good, greed works ". When a society attemps to put any kind of restrictions on capitalism it's accused of being socialist. Capitalism has its place,,but so does society that produces all the wealth. " goods and services is all that really exists " money ( currency ) was created as a means to distribute. ....how's that working out for over 90% of society ( producers and services ) ?

Great show! 👍

Always good to hear from Yanis.

What a great discussion. Thank you.

Just found your channel, enjoyed this very much Peace and love to all

Oooh thinking about moving to Mexico too!! How are you liking it? I've been all over the county and would have a hard times deciding were to move. Thanks Yanis! We need you voice much more at this moment!!

Really enjoyed that. Subscribed. 👍

Thank y'all, I saved this one👍✊

Awesome channel, keep up the good work

So, what about the French Revolution of 1789 that swept away the Feudal Monarchy in France? That revolution was triggered by a volcano eruption event changing the weather enough to cause a food shortage. I think I can agree with Yanis that there is a steady state political equilibrium where a techno-feudal elite dominate our political economy until, a revolution of some kind sweeps it away.

Great, great show. Thanks guys.

Love the show amazing 🤩

If you have ever organized for unions you understand thoroughly his discussion of race and class neglected by the American left. The reminder about Stalin attacking communists was SAVAGE. Thank you for using your voices to address life on the rent level and representing the position of black and brown folk as we endeavor. 😎🤲🙏💪

Very interesting discussion ! Thank You !

Varufakis is the voice we need to give sense to our struggle

It warms my heart when Pascal asks his first question. You could say every Pascal question is "leading" and sometimes he just answers his question within itself, but everyone he speaks to responds with almost shock and excitement because he cares so much about understanding them and he just damn does the academic work. Keep it up guys, if I go so broke I can only support one thing, it will be THIS IS REVOLUTION.

Looking foward to the Star Wars vs Star Trek discussion!

Yes!! I'm all up for Star Trek v. Star Wars.

I was looking for the latest interviews of Yanis, this is bit old interview but great as usual.

A brilliant guest!………..👍🏽

Well that was awesome, as usual. Can't wait for the Star Wars v. Star Trek debate to really demonstrate how incorrect Jason is on that one debate (sorry, but it's just true lol). You guys should interview Michael Hudson for his amazing understanding of the financial functionality of US empire, was the balance of payments accountant for Chase-Manhattan in the 70s and wrote Superimperialism which for me was eye-opening and made sense of...basically everything.

Awesome discussion!

I smiled when he disclosed he's a trekkie. One has to be a trekkie to understand the implications of such a statement.

Yanis is great. Awesome chat.

The question and answer after 48:40 are quite enlightening! (Yes the question too!)

40:00 A long time ago on a now dead forum, I coined the expression "Consumer Unions". The bottom line is what gets the Capitalist's attention.

@rogersmith7396

2 жыл бұрын

But not that much as long as the taxpayer bails them out.

@palpatine2

2 жыл бұрын

How about block-chain mêmë makers unions?

WOW! Knock out question at 41:47 by "my best Haitian friend in Miami" who by the way is a real genius and ask Yanus about the sadly failed efforts of left to fight raw capitalism in the bunkers of the highest offices in Greece. Yanus very humbly answers on how he tried his absolute best, and NO ONE CAN FAULT YANUS ONE BIT. What a wonderful, amazing human being Yanus is and may he live to the ripe healthy age of 120!

Totally vibing at 0:15 nothing says our times quite like Thick Sabbathian sludge!

I’m an oaklander too just found the show Thanks for your work

How did you not link the book in the notes?!

Yanis always brings it :)

Great Job as Well by This Is✊🏾 Revolution

Please consider putting subtitle names under "my friend in Miami." and the other fine cohost. You guys are great, and people need to match a name to your faces.

Great Interview - As far as I know YV gives interviews in Greek or English only...

@petestanton1945

2 жыл бұрын

Usually on KPFA Berkeley in the day

Great interview to all. I took away at least one thing during this episode, that half-measures avail us nothing.

@MichaelConway1308

Жыл бұрын

@@Csio12 huh? Edit: oh shit it was. Yes. Stupid indoctrination.

What is the intro song?

This was so good!

Moneyshot, summarizing the devolution to contemporary Hobbesian barbarism, techno-feudalism: "It is a cloud-based system that is trained by you so that it can train you to want the things that it produces." Brilliant insight!!!