To elaborate further on boogie’s situation. When I reacted to it I saw some really disturbing things in chat. So without any bias, you are an adult when you are 18 and I will treat you as such. Full stop. Just because people think his relationship is creepy doesn't change the law. I also believe that if the situations were reversed and boogie was a woman no one would bat an eye. The fact that he is an unhealthy obese individual automatically makes people extremely judgmental and assume he is doing something he shouldn't be doing. People like to believe she is innocent. Why? Do people forget that 15 and 16 year olds shoot up schools? How about many young men and women using their looks or manipulation to get what they want or take advantage of people? Don't forget those in their 30's or more that have never grown as a person, still living at home, have no income, provide nothing to society and living off their parents. When I was 18, I got kicked out of my house, forced to live on my own, forced to have a job and forced to have expenses like rent, car payment, ect. I was more mature and had my shit together at the age of 18 than some people double my age. You see my point? I'm not defending boogie here. I actually have no respect for a person that makes bad decisions over and over, never learns anything, gives up and is basically waiting to die. You only get one life and people don't know how lucky they are to live and have a life. I'm understanding the situation without any bias. As long as two people are adults and engage in consensual legal activities then its no one else's business what they do. Im not thinking about who people fuck or what people are doing as long as its legal and consensual. Its none of my business. His relationship has really brought to light how judgmental and biased some people are. The amount of dumbass opinions ive heard on this situation is insane. Way too many people are trying to police how others live their life and shove their biased judgmental ideas down people's throats. His relationship has made people forget that he is a terrible person that gives up and takes advantage of his viewers. He makes light of racial discrimination, cancer jokes and pretty much any type of dark humor. I'm not about that shit. Anyone that has been discriminated against or dealt with cancer would know how serious that shit is. That to me is unforgivable. That makes you a shit person. I won't dogpile on someone or make up shit just because they are awful because I believe the truth is the most important thing. My mentality comes from my experiences through life and I've met some extremely shitty humans similar to my age when I was 18. I have also met some very responsible amazing young people who have their shit together more than people twice their age. My point is, to make a blanket statement that every young adult is innocent or not mature enough to make decisions is just wrong. Some people grow up faster than others and some people never grow up. How can anyone make a non biased judgment call about a person's life without knowing the full truth and experiences that person has had?

@c1cssource

7 ай бұрын

Peepokiss ♥

@DramaticT

7 ай бұрын

You should think about moderating your chat a bit more my man. It's so much spam and childish nonsense, I'm surprised you are fine with it. I've tried once to come into your stream live and the chat made me leave real fast.

@XenosysVex

7 ай бұрын

@DramaticT nah I love Chat. It can be really overwhelming and not everyone's thing but I love it actually haha. I can understand people not enjoying it though

@DramaticT

7 ай бұрын

@@XenosysVex In that case I respect that man. Hopefully I can come in and chill again sometime and get used to it.

@WorldArcana

7 ай бұрын

Honestly, seeing this today has been a humbling reminder for me to take better care of myself too. I can identify with some of Boogie's health issues, and I'm fucking shook at how he resigned he is to not giving a shit anymore. I went back to the gym today after over a week of not going because of how this documentary made me feel afterwards. We the audience have no control over if he chooses to help himself and un-fuck his life, but we can at least take his story as another deadly warning for ourselves to be better.

The "woe as me" routine gets old after 10 years

The saddest thing is people don't hate boogie. Their just done with his pity party

@tkelly6121

7 ай бұрын

id still watch his stuff if he released funny content. dont feel like I hate him or feel hes done anything really bad or anything.

@shareyy8129

7 ай бұрын

Hates a strong word, dislike is more accurate. The guys a massive loser and just wants people to feel sorry for him despite everything happening to him being his own fault

@captainziggy82

7 ай бұрын

This, its been the same nonsense and excuses since the OG Francis videos man

@Jay3up

7 ай бұрын

Yeah I don’t hate boogie But I do dislike him and his constant “pity me!!” Mentality

The part where he buys Diablo 4, Zelda and FF16 is where I lost it. I didn't buy these games because I didn't have the money for it. I didn't buy these games because I care about keeping my house, because I care about eating enough, because I care about giving birthday gifts to my relatives. This man gets about as much money as I do each month and still goes out doing irresponsible and dumb short-term, mid-term and long-term moves. It's infuriating.

@RangaMasterRace

7 ай бұрын

The thing is, he rarely actually played those games. He did a single video on Diablo 4 and Totk, and someone checked his psn trophies for ffxvi, he isn't even out of the prologue

@Crouza

7 ай бұрын

Bro bought them for "content" and still hasn't released a single video on any of them. He's completely lying to himself about what he "needs" in order to trick his own mind into absolving him to buy more and more stuff with money that, by his own admission, he doesn't have to buy these things.

FFXIV : $15/mo Pokemon Booster box : $150 FFXIV is a cheap hobby.

@ugxsan

7 ай бұрын

frfr

@coffeelink943

7 ай бұрын

He’s talking about Final Fantasy 16, not 14

@ugxsan

7 ай бұрын

@@coffeelink943 I don’t think that’s what op meant? Pretty sure he’s just saying XIV (a game most of Xeno’s viewers play) is a cheap hobby cause it’s an MMO and therefore often means you don’t have to buy other games cause have you done everything there is to do in XIV? I sure haven’t.

@rtbear674

7 ай бұрын

@@coffeelink943 yea he was, and diablo 4. But most of us here play FFXIV, I'm glad I can have a month of entertainment with just FFXIV sub. I don't even have time to play other games. Though I'm also just got back to collect pokemon card I played when I was a kid, and it is pricy af.

Mental health is the most important factor in accomplishing success. Every issue around boogie stems from a lack of it

I really like the new react format, I am open to xeno playing lots of different games as well. I find him very entertaining no matter what he does. In case he ever reads this, i just wanted to let you know that ppl are here because you are a cool & entertaining dude

Boogie is literally that one skit from Futurama where Bender is turned into a human.

@captainziggy82

7 ай бұрын

accurate lmao

@richardwallis9374

7 ай бұрын

Wooooooooooo

@JenovaGirzz

7 ай бұрын

​@@richardwallis9374LMAO WOOOOOOOO 😂

I'm sorry but having Diablo 4, Final Fantasy xvi and TOTK in his budget had me dying lmao

@coffeelink943

7 ай бұрын

I had to buy it

Not so fun fact: The "shaman" at the end, Flaming Star, is dying of advanced stomach cancer. He treats it himself using psychedelics, and repeatedly had to sit down to take breaks during filming due to his intense stomach pain. The documenter spoke about it on Some Ordinary Podcast, he didn't know about this until they were already filming. He was some random guy on facebook that kept messaging Boogie to "help" him.

I have saved so much money playing FFXIV. I pay my subscription, sit my ass down, and have no excuses to blow money. This wasnt the reason i play, and in financially stable regardless, but people underestimate settling with fewer hobbies and being satisfied with not buying more shit needlessly. Then if you really want something occasionally, you can buy it. I just saved up enough to buy my first motorcycle in cash, with plenty of money leftover. Find fewer things you can spend more time with. Alcohol? You drink a bottle once and it's gone (I don't drink anyways). FFXIV? I can scream at people in dungeons and uwu at cute Au'Ras as much as i want within every monthly sub.

@ugxsan

7 ай бұрын

Actually same. I don’t remember when the last time I bought a game cause I just *had* to have it was. There are plenty of games I want and don’t have strictly because I can’t afford the expense and XIV keeps me well enough entertained, anyways.

The disappointed dad energy in this video is real.

This is absolutely brutal to watch.

@coffeelink943

7 ай бұрын

He’s an example the type of guy you don’t want to be like

I don't feel bad for someone that does this all to themselves. His personality is just disgustingly narcissistic and entitled as he believes he is 'owed' 10/10 models but can't bother to work on himself. He probably could have that without needing to pay for it if he really bothered. I watched him for a little while but stopped because it was all pity parties even when he was loaded. He could have really been happy, but he chose cheap quick fixes.

Damn this was a wild react. Thanks Xeno, made me open my FB Market place and looking to sell my collector shit I don't need.

As a teenager I used to watch Boogie, i used to think he was a positive force in the world - he had my respect. But seeing how he talks about people, and his own life is a hard bitter pill to swallow. I struggled with my health my whole life, I used to admire that despite his health issues he made something of himself, i haven't watched him in about a decade but man - to see him go down this path, and his fucked up view on the world and not be able to see where it went wrong. Just goes to show - you don't know the person behind the camera. And to know that this person has all the potential in the world and the power to change his circumstances- and he just threw it away is so depressing and sad but a word of caution to anyone else not to follow that same path. I used to see him and think "wow i can be successful despite my shitty health" now im like "Okay here's not what to do, don't squander your life and the opportunities people give you." I'm disabled, I haven't been able to work in a decade, but the way the world is if i didn't get a job - I was out on my ass without a home. So i got a fucking job, its hard, I struggle but you gotta fucking help yourself, Boogie is a cautionary tale on you gotta fucking help yourself people are not going to just hand you shit you have to fight for your life if you want to keep it.

Man. I loved Boogie. Watched every single thing he made. It took me a while to see the pattern but the guy was the epitome of the meme where thr guy sticks a stick in the spokes of his bike and then blames something else. My guy lived to be a victim of circumstance and, very unheathily, continued to put himself into circumstances that would cause people to feel bad for him. I got off the train when he started gaining weight again after his gastric bypass surgery and sat there and complained about how hard it was to keep up with the weight loss regimen.

This makes me so sad. I met boogie outside of his signed event at a con in 2018/2019. My ex was a major fan. He stood and talked to us for about 30 minutes with his gf at the time. He seemed so positive. He had told us that this was the first year at that convention he could actually walk around without the assistance of an electric scooter and seemed super upbeat. Told us the previous year was all looking up and he was so happy on his journey to being healthy. There was zero negativity or pity party. The guy genuinely seemed to think he had a bright future ahead. He was very courteous, personable, and kind. The entire rest of the convention he would make eye contact with us as we passed and wave hello with a smile. Makes me sad to see this documentary.

@ninponighthawk

7 ай бұрын

That's exactly what people loved about him before and made him famous. He was simple, honest, and most of all kind. Later he developed a real mean streak and started demanding instead of thanking and that's when his downfall started. It doesn't help he made some very poor investment choices but even so, if he hadn't completely flipped the script I bet he would still be a very relevant youtuber today. Maybe not huge, but relevant in more than just a lesson to be learned.

The hardest part of this for me is I feel we all know someone like him. It is tough caring about someone like this when this is what they do to themselves. Do you deny their behaviours for the betterment of their last days or try and make them happy while they are here before they are gone. This is tragic, bro fell off and fell in the pit.

Xeno, your reactions to this video are on point & my respect for you keeps growing by the freakin' second. Good outlook on how to live life and as a person who just recently discovered you, I think you're all right man. Keep up the great work and keep being you. I used to follow Boogie (and to an extent still do) and its been a rollercoaster seeing his ups and downs. He is the ultimate cautionary tale. No one is infallible.

The problem with the age gap in this case is that she had a troubled childhood and no dad. Boogie had a troubled childhood as well. Except from what we know, boogie grew up to be a narcissist and manipulator we don't know enough about the girl yet. Boogie is using the US vs them mentality with her. Everyone judges us, we only have each other we are ride or die, u can only ever count on me and no one else. Which is text book manipulation. It's even worse because she's almost 30 years younger than him. He also dumps all his health problems on her sating he is on deaths door. So she has 2 options. She bolts, people pity him which he lives for and maybe people harass her for leaving him. Or she stays with him because what kind of monster leaves their partner when their partner is so sick. Either way he wins. Even that stand up show, he probably set it up that they got called out. Why would the stand up comedian ask boogie if he's a youtuber? What a random thing to ask. Have you ever seen a comedian ask that of an audience member out of the blue? And the fact that he brought her in to be shamed for his humiliation kink? Not cool. The problem is that he's a master manipulator and it makes things worse that he's manipulation some one who Is 30 years younger than him. IT would be different if he was trying to change, if not for him, then for her. He's talking like he already died. He's telling her how sick he is and how he is about to die and he's still not trying to change for the better. He knows the problem, he knows hes fucking up her life and he just doesnt care.

@seraphineraevenwulf

5 ай бұрын

It's also weird that his ex wife looks similar, has the same name and they met the same exact way with her contacting him as a fan in support after his mom died.

I grew up poor too and also have struggled with bad spending habits. It's literally an issue with impulse control, abstract reasoning and your ability to build better habits. Not to say you're not fully responsible if you squander everything, but some people are just innately better at managing finances. Ironically, I'm basically scrooge mcduck when it comes too gil in FFXIV lmao. If only I could learn a thing or two from how my catboy does his spending.

I remember being introduced to boogie on the cooptional podcast back when that was like the largest podcast on the internet. And I think he was the most popular guest they had for a long time. Dude was pretty famous for a KZread guy.

I paused my game to be here

@raynerz7385

7 ай бұрын

this ^

@DoppelgangerTH

7 ай бұрын

Sludge Puasing

@MrProg-ey3tl

7 ай бұрын

You can't pause online games mom

Damn... "Learning the easy way" truly is a life skill. Lookit this poor bastard.

ppl feeling bad about themselves should watch this. it motivated me to try better.

My sympathy well ran out for Boogie after like 10 minutes of watching this. As someone who grew up poor and was medically underweight most of my life, I had to work myself to the bone for years to get in shape and become financially stable. So Boogie's incel mentality, defeatist attitude, narcissistic manipulation, and sense of entitlement are all qualities I absolutely can't stand.

@Ty_Jac

7 ай бұрын

I feel like you missed the point of the comment. Regardless if it's not the straight definition of incel, the guy is just referring to his overall behavior, which is quite pitiful, but he caused it himself and won't change leading to having no sympathy for him and his actions. I understand being mad at someone using the word wrong, but boogie definitely has incel vibes despite not being one.

@Iistener

7 ай бұрын

Ayyy fellow medically underweight person! I've been slowly but surely earning income and building eating habits. Great to hear you're financially stable!

@MeldinX2

7 ай бұрын

People are diffrent though. Some people can do what you did and turn things around. Some people just can't for whatever reason. Some people just lack the mental fortitude. And some people will never change.

Xeems mentions it but again at @1:17:50. Why do you need $7k in order to afford everything? Sell the damn house and the fancy shit around you. Your girl will probably leave but you gotta fix your life before you can fall into someone else's

yo xeno, just wanted to say its really cool that youre out here talking pretty seriously about Boogie, even in the comments, some people might laugh at the documentary but the whole thing is just really sad and hard to watch

"All i need is you" sounds like self delusion to me. Yourself should be top priority. Loving someone else is amazing but if you dont care for yourself first then you just gonna make the other persons life harder.

Ok i agree with the law and relashinship thing 100% becuse it aint hurting others, but boogies life style is hurting himself so is a self destructive person in a relashinship not also hurting the other person involved? Seems like boogies friends really need to help him before he really does kick the bucket and take his gf with him.

@XenosysVex

7 ай бұрын

I think boogie is already donezo there aint no saving him. he doesnt want to help himself and people that dont want to help themselves are a lost cause

@MeldinX2

7 ай бұрын

@@XenosysVex I do think people usually get to a point where they either need to help themself and change or they will die. And for boogie he will probably need to lose everything in order for him to acually take real action.

@DeusGamez

6 ай бұрын

@@XenosysVex you might just be right about him not helping himself Xeems, but no one is ever well and truly lost after watching this whole thing what i see is that he needs better influences in his life to help encourage him to take a better path he may have let himself go but its never too late to change nor is it too late to forgive someone or oneself. there are points in this video where you said you get it about the harsh conditions that can effect people's mentalities and their lives but do you actually get the person? do we ever really understand those around us ? or do we just pretend not to notice when things go bad for us in our life. sometimes people take ALOT for granted an they dont ever think to themselves that maybe they should check in more often with those that are nearest and dearest to themself because by simply just performing that one simple act of kindness, generosity, or mercy you might have just saved someone's life or made their day so much more significant or meaningful. not gunna defend Boogie for his actions but everyone deserves a chance even if we dont think they ever will see their errors in this lifetime its more important to leave a positive impression than to simply say "its a lost cause" because then one day someone might take that too heart and then do something even more stupid then what we've seen here in this documentary.

The issue with boogie is that he can't let things be. He needs to bring drama up and he needs to explain himself/defend himself for every single little thing but doing the opposite and making people even more upset. What he should have done is just sticking to doing content for the people that like him and ignore the drama. But he can't seem to do that.

I can't believe you sat and watched this crapola for an hour and a half. I could never lmao

Thanks for the very reasonable responses. People love painting things in simple black or white lights when the reality of things is often much more gray.

I no longer feel bad about myself because of this dude.

@coffeelink943

7 ай бұрын

He still got a gf unlike me tho :,(

Boogie has ways of thinking that make me think he was always destined to get himself into situations he didn't need to get himself into, financially, relationship wise or whatever. What glimpses you get of his personality, doesn't do him many favors.

After watching this documentary, it makes me want to take a bath and brush my teeth

Watching Boogie documentaries makes me feel really good about my life. It also makes me want to fast and work out like crazy. I'm not even fat but I can't imagine getting anywhere near that level of obesity.

Referring to women as meat and window shopping the meat market is truly disgusting. And saying he deserves xyz is absurd. He had the chance to enjoy life to the full and he blew it. He deserves to be broke.

I mean I'm being reakistic here, and honestly he should deep cut food in his budget. He can clearly afford to run a calorie deficit for a long time. He should cut all eating out. Cut all subscriptions to everything. Just a few things off the top of my head. A lot of the other stuff is just bad decisions coming back to haunt him. He needs to accept that hed made those mistakes and make the best decisions he can immedately, if he's going to turn it around. I don't see him doing that his will is too weak. He doesn't seem to have the resolve.

My last magic deck was constructed 2017

14:33 I love you to strummer.

29:18 30:09 47:12

Birdge.

I forgot this guy was still alive, ngl.

Did they ever cover him beating his previous wife?

To be fair, what Boggie did when he got doxxed was pretty understandable. If someone is harassing you constantly and show up at your house IRL with the camera rolling, you'd point you gun at them as well.

Someone go pay goggins to hang out with boogie

I have to admit, I'm kind of surprised that Xeno was so reserved when watching this, and I don't mean anything negative by saying that. That said, I really hate Boogie and it's actually for a really weird reason. This isn't a good thing, but I actually see quite a bit of myself in Boogie - only maybe I'm at the 5-10% mark while he's easily obtained the other 90-95 percent. The difference is (beyond not having internet fame and once having a lot of money) while I have problems, I don't think I'm above working a mundane 9 to 5 and I don't freaking pester people with my issues constantly. It's somewhat of a freaking eerie thing to watch someone you could be if I didn't care as much as I do. I'm not saying everything with me is peachy but Christ, I'm doing freaking fantastic in comparison.

why does this start with snipits of sex and the first 10 mins him half naked in a tub...

I knew things got bad but holy fuck.....just damn fuck it goin for a walk and lookin into some cheap weights for home

Xeno's reaction was interesting. Unlike other streamers he stuck with absolutes such as legal age etc.

Boogie literlly needs like a parent. Some one who just says no to all his bullshit. Yoi wanna buy some mtg? NO your house is finacally ruining you? SELL IT like he literlly just needs someone to tell him to live

@ugxsan

7 ай бұрын

Legit sounds like he literally never had that. As much as he’d love to shift blame to his upbringing, though, he’s had decades to make his own decisions and they’ve clearly been mostly the wrong ones.

@Deminese2

7 ай бұрын

@@ugxsan When you're raised badly you don't exactly have the capability of even making good decisions at times. Its pretty clear thats the case if you've ever been around a bunch of "trashy" people or been poor all your life. You can always say its not an excuse but Idk man be raised like that and then try and say its not an excuse.

@ugxsan

7 ай бұрын

@@Deminese2 I had a pretty rough home life when I was a teenager. This isn’t a vent thread so I won’t open that can of worms here. It was as bad as Boogie claimed his to be, but it still fucked me up pretty bad. Even then at some point, I couldn’t keep blaming my step-mother because while it was probably the root, I wasn’t gonna get anywhere unless I started making better choices for myself. Yeah, that’s anecdotal and it’s not as easy as all that, but there was a chance. Boogie at least acted happy once. Now it’s too late to keep leaning on upbringing.

@Deminese2

7 ай бұрын

@@ugxsan yeah I'm not saying its a permanent excuse but for every person who at some point improves theres another that doesn't. Its really hard to change behaviors especially if you don't even know your behaviors have changed overtime. Also if you keep getting told over and over you're a bad person or what you do is bad some people will just double down and say fuck you no I'm not a bad person I like myself. I really don't like the narrative of Just become better. If It was easy everyone would be mega successful.

Does Xeno not realize the "good" TV shows are on in the evening? Midday, especially weekday shows are all the low budget stuff because it's on when a majority of people are at work. If you're addicted to TV and are watching midday, your only real choices are reruns, edited for TV movies, or the crap talk shows.

Ehm... what the fuck is with audio? Edit: explanation from Leo is in response. New technoligy is wild.

@XenosysVex

7 ай бұрын

Some parts of the background music have been removed because of copyright. There are a few instances of this thorough the video but they only last for a short while. Sorry for the inconvenience. - Leo, the editor.

@Kairax

7 ай бұрын

​@XenosysVex Thank you for explanation, Leo. I actually not thought it's a thing nowadays. Guess similar tech is also on twitch vods: sometimes there is no music and voices from mic are distorted.

Why do you mods spam their messages 5 times in a row like its 2014?

I had the same situation with my current partner. We were the same ages as these two and 10 years later were still as strong as ever. Fuck what people say.

How does he stay so big if he is broke?

Imagine having Wings kick the shit out of you

Ok will make judgements on how people are but never how they should be.

Yeah I used to like Boogie until he allowed his divorce to ruin him. I'm done with his pity party at his slow pathetic self destructive drive to try and be relevant while begging like DSP.

I agree that if it’s legal and consensual then it’s nobody’s business. But it’s pretty clear Boogie and Des’s relationship isn’t healthy. She has daddy issues, is young and naive, and is desperate to not be lonely. He’s abusing his position of power and using his health to guilt trip her into staying with him. You are right that we don’t know her and she could be doing some shady shit too. The thing is, what would she gain from trying to take advantage of him? Nothing. He has every reason to take advantage of her though. “What if she has a fat guy kink?” I don’t think she’d have much trouble finding a fat guy that’s in a better mental/financial/life situation than Boogie. It’s not like he has the market cornered on being a fat guy. Edit: Also, if they didn’t want to get singled out at the comedy club, why tf did they sit up front? If you don’t want jokes made about you at a comedy club, don’t sit up front.

dude that shit was wild 🤣

Idk man boogies relashinship shit is weird for me. I have a friend who is just in love with any women who gives him attention. And his curennt gf is just terrible and he revolves his whole life around her now too. He wont come over unless she can come over with him. I feel like yea they are happy but i feel like he is tricking himself into being happy or just allowing her to control his whole life just so he can have a gf.

@coffeelink943

7 ай бұрын

Shit happens all of the time. There’s dudes dating 50 year old ladies and no one says anything about it if a young guy does it

Why not play some online MTG? I think some of us would love to see you play it.

@XenosysVex

7 ай бұрын

I've thought about it before. Maybe I'll look into it I still follow it pretty closely

@jedahaw

7 ай бұрын

@@XenosysVexXeems-senpai noticed me! uwu

Trying to guilt-trip everyone to give him money.. he truly is a disgusting person.

So morality isn’t necessarily dictated by what is legal. This girl is over 20 years his junior, and is clearly emotionally damaged, which she confirms when she talks about her abusive background. Boogie knows exactly what he’s doing and he’s roped this girl into a relationship because she doesn’t know any better. The whole “it’s legal so there” argument is a lazy cop out. This young woman is at risk of losing her 20s because she’s attached to this man who will not provide her with the environment she needs. Do you honestly think boogie is a healthy person for someone with emotional trauma to spend their life with? Absolutely not. And boogie is well aware of this.

I have not watched TV in years. All my friends get mad at me when they start discussing the latest show, and I am completely ignorant of it. I just don't care, though.

its crazy how disingenuous everything boogie says and does feels bro. he feels fake and hollow

30:38 around here, boogie tries to defend his "humor" as it being important to make jokes about it. This is just him spinning his previous fuckups as intentional and edgy. You can tell by his body language in 31:06 that he is uncomfortable because of what he just blurted out. He is also not funny. This is not about discrimination or free speech or anything like that, boogie is trying to retcon the stupid unfunny things he got clipped for over the years because he is terrible at improvising. It speaks of how he thinks of other people and how poorly he understands them, which makes sense considering he is a narcisist.

Buhh

That girl is sus AF

i have not watch boogie in years , but if my memorie serve me right , didn't his downfall happened after his wife took half his shit and left him ?

I will give Boogie something, there was good that came out of the Holocaust. Medical field got some useful knowledge when people were treated inhumanely without a regard for ethics. I don't even know if we would have chemotherapy if it wasn't for knowledge gained from the effects of the gasses they used.

@BigChilla420

7 ай бұрын

Sure I'd lump that in with technological progression attributed to the two great wars in general as opposed to the holocaust itself though. We wouldn't have space travel, rocket science or satellite technology either or it would've taken us a lot longer to figure it out if Hitler and his scientists weren't out of their minds and doing all kinda crazy drugs and experiments in the name of winning that war. That being said I'd probably prefer living in a weird ass Amish world where millions of people didn't have to die in various ways for us to create crazier and crazier technology to kill each other quicker that only after all that shit becomes civilian peace time tech like computers and modern aircraft. Personally I couldn't say with a good conscience that any "good" came out of nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki other than maybe the war ending afterwards, and in the same sense I don't think anything "good" came out of experimenting on people non-consensually when we could've reached the same scientific conclusions in a more humane manner. For example testing on animals (okay for the time), death row inmates or the worst of the worst of society who agree to be experimented on rather than imprisoned. I get what you and Boogie are saying but I think we still need to be careful and respectful with our wording when it comes to genocide and that amount of death no matter how much silver lining we may see in hindsight.

@PurpleAlzir

7 ай бұрын

@@BigChilla420 Yeah that is very good point to make. It was good that got salvaged out of horrific tragedy. Not worth the cost at all.

I didn't get why Xeno was so adamant on not seeing how horribly creepy and manipulative the whole thing with the 20 year old girl was/is. He's literally doing the same thing he does to everyone, which is get her to stick around out of pity and concern confused as love. Not to mention she's not really in a good mental place herself.

@travisk5046

7 ай бұрын

Yeah she’s probably 2 years out of high school and talking about how a 50 year old morbidly obese man playing DND with a victim mentality is all she needs. Whatever though hopefully she gets out soon before ruining her life more permanently

@CulturedDegenerate

7 ай бұрын

It's obviously manipulative and Boogie should be ashamed, but I think his point was that she's a consenting adult who's responsible for her own choices, which she is.

@ForlornLemon

7 ай бұрын

It's creepy, but not illegal

@devonlynch6042

7 ай бұрын

​@@ForlornLemonIt should be he's old enough to be her dad this is basically grooming

Xffing

I've only reached 20 minutes into the video and the way he talks about women and the sense of entitlement makes me really dislike him. He sounds like a slightly less unhinged but just as creepy incel you'd find on 4chan

@zugetzuzu

7 ай бұрын

​@@user-xl5kd6il6c xd? He only ever refers to women as objects of desire in those 20 minutes, with one exception his divorced wife (as a person budgeting for him). The way he talked about women "I deserve this" "I dated Arkansas 8s not LA 10s" "This is just a meat market like Tinder" while blaming his weight/"meat curtains" for him being lonely. In those first 20 minutes he is nothing but creepy about how he talks about women in a very incel way.

@zugetzuzu

7 ай бұрын

​@@user-xl5kd6il6c him hiring escorts or being divorced or his age has nothing to do about my comment. The fact that you don't recognise that is kind of telling on your part

So she is like me and like me were attracted to Broken, pathetic, self loathing, arrogant and depressing people. So yes I have to agree she deserves better, I mean the guy isn't even taking care of himself and their is a list of reasons she shouldn't be with him. I mean not to long ago in the video I'm sure it was agreed he is pretty rotten lol. Anyway, she doesn't have enough street in her while he's had plenty in or on him. He needs a balance patch otherwise something is going to break imo When it comes to the sheooms Part? I think you should look it up, I personally know it can break you...

@CulturedDegenerate

7 ай бұрын

​@DaWoWzer I'm sorry, what? How is this casual endorsement of paədophilia getting upvotes? What alternate reality are you living in where a 16 year old is at the same stage of mental development as a 20-25 year old? Yes, it's true we continue to develop into our mid-20s, and I can say with confidence that who I was at 20 is far from who I am now at 26, but who I was at 16 was entire light-years from who I was at 20, and absolutely nobody was making excuses for the dumb decisions I or anyone around me made at that age. Those mistakes are how you learn to be a responsible adult. Clearly she has issues and complexes, but what young adult doesn't? For better or worse she's still responsible for her own decisions and that includes who she chooses to get involved with. To clarify, I do pity her. She deserves better than Boogie and I hope she realizes that one day in hindsight, but it's not anyone's responsibility (especially not complete strangers on the internet) to coddle her or police her love life.

Honestly, the man is a winner, despite all the shitty decisions, at the very least he succeeded the mission.

WHHOOOOOOOAAAAAA

i feel so bad for his gf. Boogie is taking advantage of her but because shes so young and had past problems she doesn't understand. I don't mean to project my own problems but I've been here before but as soon as someone better walks by boogie, he's going to leave her. She deserves so much better and she deserves to have someone that's going to love her and take care of her and not someone who is going to drain her and leave her with nothing. Even if shes happy with him boogie isn't willing to turn his life around to be with her. Boogie not caring for himself and then later dies by his poor life choices is going to add on to her problems like her dad leaving her. He doesn't realize that this relationship is selfish. Also lets not normalize an age gap this big. it is disgusting. she is 20 and the brain doesn't fully develop until 25 so these choices shes having to make are huge and this is something that you need time to learn and understand, not jumping into it. Boogie is wayyy older than her and knows better but ofc he just going to do what he wants because its boogies world huh? Boogie cant even take care of himself and makes the worst choices why the hell does he think he can take care of someone. Its gross that he's going to drag this poor girl into poverty all because he doesn't wanna work a normal job, its gross af. sorry for the rant but I hate him after watching the doc. also the way he talks about women as objects is disgusting. i have no sympathy for him and he deserves all the hate he gets. he had the chance to be a better person and refuses to. He is an insufferable pos.

Wild how Xenosys thinks a young girl with daddy issues being with a 50 year old narcissist manipulator is somehow ok lmao

@captainziggy82

7 ай бұрын

Yea that shit is WEIRD, idk if he caught the daddy issues at that point but wild

@XenosysVex

7 ай бұрын

What happens in their relationship is between them. they are both adults and its none of my business. I can only go off of what was presented to me and both people are fully aware of everything thats going on. she knows what she is getting into. Anyone can be vile or manipulate someone. Just because she is a young woman doesnt mean she isnt capable of wrong doings. Point being, you or me dont know shit about what goes on their life besides whats been put in this documentary so you really have no idea what kind of person she is.

@Paraguai123

7 ай бұрын

It is okay in the sense of the law. It is not okay in the sense of their mental health. But it is their choice and we have to respect it.

@kingrushy4533

7 ай бұрын

It is okay, if it’s a problem go do something about it.

@devonlynch6042

7 ай бұрын

​@@Paraguai123Then fucking change the law cause this is very obviously wrong and speaking as someone who is currently 20 I can say that she definitely does not know wtf she's doing.

actually the reason why people with money go after escorts is because like you said ' no time for a relationship ' , you dont pay them to come to you but to leave.

The scene when he holds up his bag of pills like it’s a trophy is the reason people HATE Boogie with a passion. He treats this all like one big joke. That’s why as much as people dislike Keemstar for that rant he went on the other night about boogie, I don’t feel any ounce of sympathy for Boogie.

Aww yeah, the terrors of late stage capitalism

@ugxsan

7 ай бұрын

@@user-xl5kd6il6c I would argue a lot of his borderline sociopathic behavior has to do with Capitalism but it is a super weird deflect from his own shitty behavior.

@coffeelink943

7 ай бұрын

What does this has to do with it, pleeb

Every "fat acceptance" activist ever.

did anyone notice she never tried to cheer him up to solve his wrong doings? lol i mean, naturally a women that is in your life that loves, cares for her male partner would want to help to fix shit up.