I will never forgive Fox for treating Cyclops as a side character. He is the leader of the team, the Captain America for the X-men. MCU Cyclops should be like the X-men '97 version. Badass leader, who can do hand to hand combat, who utilizes his laser beam, and that SUPERHERO LANDING is 🔥

@whiskeryscorer2393

Ай бұрын

Cyclops is kinda eh

@NadeemShekh-uy9zn

Ай бұрын

Yeah but it's time to forgive so you can move forward in life

@johnbecher85

Ай бұрын

​@@whiskeryscorer2393Have you even read the comics?

@Thewarrior293

Ай бұрын

Fax

@laverdadescatolica5

Ай бұрын

Apocalypse was in hibernation like Cell 😀

The “fast and loose” style young Charles works for me. He only became more careful in his steps after recovering from the drunken depression that happened after he was paralyzed

@erikfinkel2717

Ай бұрын

Yep, hard agree! It's okay for a character to do a 180 arc after a traumatic event and dealing with it to become a wiser stronger and better leader

Anya as Magik was a good casting choice

Banning comics on set is something 😢

@agentofchaos7456

Ай бұрын

Apparently Marvel Studios has been doing that as well recently.

@SirsasthNigam.

Ай бұрын

Hugh even sneaked up to Feige for comics There's no way it's happening

@SirsasthNigam.

Ай бұрын

X Men franchise-4 Razzies F4 Fox franchise-4 Razzies Monsterverse - 1 Razzie (0%-50%) DCEU- 5 Razzies (0%-50%) MCU- 2 Razzies (Inhumans-lowest(11%) and Quantumania -highest rated Marvel Razzie(46%)) SSU- 4 Razzies including Venom Highest rated Marvel Razzie & Lowest rated MCU film=Quantumania - 46% Lowest rated MCU Razzie=Inhumans -11% Worst of Marvel=Fant4stic-9% Highest rated DCEU Razzie-=Shazam 2 -49% Worst Superhero film ever-Catwoman -9% Lowest rated DCEU Razzie- Suicide Squad(theatrical)-26% BvS-29%

@agentofchaos7456

Ай бұрын

@@SirsasthNigam. Writers and directors who worked with Marvel Studios said that it is happening. The first X-Men movie was over 20 years ago, Feige has clearly changed his mind on the subject.

@SirsasthNigam.

Ай бұрын

@@agentofchaos7456 even so MCU is not MCU without Marvel characters Sony Stupidity Universe

Unpopular opinion: Origins was not that bad. Is it a masterpiece? Maybe not. But it’s fun and I personally have a great time watching it.

@isaacwood429

Ай бұрын

Plus it was the only movie with Gambit, which imo is a huge win

@emanuelrodriguez9044

Ай бұрын

I agree and the movie is better then X-men Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix in my opinion because it was at least way more entertaining then those movies.

@drewbooo

Ай бұрын

That scene where wolverine jumps out of the helicopter that gambit is flying, and a terrible CG Logan skips across the water like a flat stone. Movie gold

@Xandycane

Ай бұрын

​@@isaacwood429Yet this is what made me so angry. We only got him in one movie because he was born way too soon. However, we ith what little time he had, Taylor Kitch embodied him beautifully.

@fewntug3760

Ай бұрын

@@isaacwood429he got nerfed to shit tho

No way "The Wolverine" gets ranked higher than "First Class"

@faris8878

Ай бұрын

It's a close call... I ain't complaining

@alexanderadonyae7937

Ай бұрын

Facts💥 I like the wolverine but.. Xmen First Class was waaaaay better

@ZayWicked007

Ай бұрын

it’s peak 😂🔥

@Bman32x

26 күн бұрын

Wolverine was a better movie. First Class you kill a mutant whose powers are literally adapting to anything bc sure that power set and backstory can’t be useful in future movies say if a world ending mutant who body swaps comes along.

Simon Kinberg always did a better job as a producer than as a writer Is because of him that we got "First Class", "Deadpool" and "Logan"

I'm not arguing that Dark Pheonix shouldn't be last, but I am arguing that there IS 1 good sequence in that movie... Magneto fighting off the (not) skrulls on the train was badass

@johnbecher85

Ай бұрын

Magneto IS badass. Except in that early Fantastic Four animated series. I will never forgive them for that.

@samthevole

Ай бұрын

The score and visual effects were also great

@Just_Sander

Ай бұрын

For me Logan should be last.

@thri11ers

Ай бұрын

The scene where Jean moved the train was pretty cool too.

@MrRobertGillan

Ай бұрын

@@Just_SanderWhat garbage bait lol

15:15 I thought the Apoc Quicksilver sequence was better. Time didn’t stop and the explosion is faster than people so I was on the edge of my seat and I constantly rewatch. The first Quicksilver scene in DOFP seems more like time was frozen and while cool, there doesn’t seem to be any ticking clock to worry about.

@MrOfflineAlways

Ай бұрын

Fr, Apocalypse really showed how his powers would work. Time never fully stopped, he was just that fast. But also not fast enough to save Alex Summers who was close to the explosion.

@Bman32x

26 күн бұрын

He also played around too much and didn’t save everyone in time. Of course I was tired of them using Havok as the older Summers brother instead of Vulcan & never had the summers brothers meet so it was whatever.

It's been fun revisiting all these movies before Deadpool and Wolverine! It was awesome to see the journey of how these movies grew and evolved over the course of the Fox era, even if they had some low points. The really high points really made it all worth it. Some of those points will always go down as some of my favorite X-Men moments ever.

No way he put Deadpool 2 at #9 just because it had too much of “Ryan Reynolds’s being Ryan Reynolds”💀

@NewRockstars

Ай бұрын

Did you miss all the other reasons I gave lol

@archangel1of7

Ай бұрын

I know right? Ryan Reynolds is like Jeff Goldblum to me. The more he is himself the better I like it, and Deadpool is as much Ryan Reynolds as he is Deadpool. The two are inextricably linked. Never a dull moment with him.

@justaguy7230

26 күн бұрын

@@NewRockstars It’s all subjective. We all have our own lists.

@lostastronaut8291

25 күн бұрын

Yeah it’s a weird take, because I just don’t see any difference between Ryan Reynold’s being Ryan Reynold’s and Deadpool as a character. Like I just don’t see how you can “Un-Ryan Reynold”the deapool movies without taking away what makes them feel like actual deadpool movies, if you get what I mean 💀

I actually think X-Men Origins Wolverine wasn't that bad. I think it gets a bad rep just because of the third act. The only thing I don't like about the film is that it's never explained why Victor doesn't remember Logan in the first X-Men film since he never got shot with adamantium bullets, so by all accounts it's a bit of a "plot hole."

@jorgej.cruzhernandez9247

Ай бұрын

He was, probably, experimented on, triggering his secondary mutation (the more feral look) and doesn't remember much, but he still has a fixation with Logan's dog tags 🤷🏽‍♂️

@jeremyachristensen

Ай бұрын

I think there's an interview somewhere where they were asked this and their response was that it's two separate characters. In their minds "Victor" in Wolverine is a completely different person from "Sabretooth" in XMen

@Gibbypastrami

Ай бұрын

@@jeremyachristensenmy headcanon was that Sabretooth eventually got a Wolverine-esque transformation leading to his different look and neither of them recognizing each other due to memory loss, doesn’t victor get metal claws in the comics?

@Bman32x

26 күн бұрын

DoFP wiped it all out of existence so it’s for the best anyway.

@Bman32x

26 күн бұрын

@@jeremyachristensenalmost like Victor Creed is more Romulus or repurposed Daken as his brother. OR Sabertooth acting more like Mr Sinster’s flunky Hairbag. I’m sure DP & Wolverine will address this plot hole.

Deadpool is not an RR movie. Characters typically should be bigger, however this casting as Deadpool is so dang accurate, it doesn't matter at all. They are the same person. He gets away with it

I like your list. I would rate Deadpool 2 higher. I enjoyed it more after a rewatch. The movie brought more characters in and established which X-Men universe/timeline it was in.

This is the weirdest way I've ever seen anyone rank stuff.

@user-kk5sr8jd4b

Ай бұрын

Agreed

@GrimlockGuy34

Ай бұрын

He’s ranking them in release order. Not THAT weird.

@NewRockstars

Ай бұрын

We did it this way because, honestly, other ways of announcing rankings suck. They just beg viewers to turn off their brains and begin shouting at the first sign of disagreement. If you want to see the full ranking top to bottom, go ahead and skip to the end of the video, you know that's where you'll find it. To watch a video thoughtfully reviewing all the options in a rewatch, their connections, their relationship to each other, requires a chronological reexamination in which the easy best and worst outliers could be quickly categorized as such, and the more debatable ones set aside for a more scrutinized approach later. This is how the human brain actually ranks and sorts stuff and we think it's more interesting to invite someone into that deliberation in real time, rather than just barf out another list you're just gonna disagree with part of.

@SirsasthNigam.

Ай бұрын

Razzie: 0%-50% Razzie dodger :51%-70% Oscar dodger:71-90% Oscar: 91%-100% X Men franchise-4 Razzies F4 Fox franchise-4 Razzies Monsterverse - 1 Razzie (0%-50%) DCEU- 5 Razzies (0%-50%) MCU- 2 Razzies (Inhumans-lowest(11%) and Quantumania -highest rated Marvel Razzie(46%)) SSU- 4 Razzies including Venom Highest rated Marvel Razzie & Lowest rated MCU film=Quantumania - 46% Lowest rated MCU Razzie=Inhumans -11% Worst of Marvel=Fant4stic-9% Highest rated DCEU Razzie-=Shazam 2 -49% Worst Superhero film ever-Catwoman -9% Lowest rated DCEU Razzie- Suicide Squad(theatrical)-26% BvS-29%

@indigosnow_

Ай бұрын

Facts/preach, good stuff y'all ​@@NewRockstars

Imo none of the X-Men movies have managed to capture the true spectacle of the 70s - 90s magic of the X-Men comics.

for me days of future past will always be my favorite but i think logan is arguably the “best” film

@emanuelrodriguez9044

Ай бұрын

The are both S-tier movies in my opinion even though I love Logan a little more then days of future past.

@aimanghazi7043

19 күн бұрын

Same. I think DoFP is #1 and Logan #2 in the entire series. DoFP is way more fun IMO due to the stakes and the cast.

The only thing I would change is putting DOFP over X2 and potentially a 2 way tie with Logan. I feel like DOFP legitimately feels like Xmen from start to finish

Imagine banning the source material on set.. some of these directors are cooked

I gotta disagree about Deadpool, I think 2 was far more rewatchable

@honeysweet4804

Ай бұрын

agreed

@emanuelrodriguez9044

Ай бұрын

I agree. I like both movies but I kinda liked the second more.

@bajansamurai

29 күн бұрын

It is also more rewatchable to me as well, but I figure everyone brings their own unique experiences, preferences, interpretations and expectations to every film, and the things he dings it for seem to make it less rewatchable to him.

Despite their problems the Fox X men universe will always hold a special place in my heart and its best movies are some of the best cbms period.

Can anyone explain to me Erics dislike of Ryan Reynolds? The only explanation I got from the video was "Ryan Reynolds being Ryan Reynolds" lol...

@FlashLegion

Ай бұрын

I think what he was trying to say is that Deadpool has the same personality (which is Ryan Reynolds on crack) with everyone in the movie, he doesn’t say he dislikes reynolds, he even admires him at some point in the video I think but it’s just the fact that Deadpool didn’t have that much of a difference in personalities with the side characters and just acted the same with everyone (expect yukio), at least that’s how I viewed it. Hope this helps 🫶🏻

@iQueue211

Ай бұрын

​@@FlashLegionI mean... That's just Deadpool tho. 🤣🤣🤣

@FlashLegion

Ай бұрын

@@iQueue211 it’s both tbh 😭

@jiffypoo5029

Ай бұрын

@@FlashLegion To be fair, Deadpool was written to have a Ryan Reynolds personality in the comics. It's a weird situation where the real human that Deadpool's personality is based on now has creative control of Deadpool. Deadpool is just Ryan Reynolds but with powers in the Mavel Universe.

@MrRobertGillan

Ай бұрын

He doesn’t dislike him, he’s just being honest lol.

I liked the last dark phoenix alot more than last stand

@FoTheHoe

Ай бұрын

Agreed.

@Zombiesnyder13

Ай бұрын

Avi Arad ruined The Last Stand Simon Kinberg did a better job as director than Brett Ratner

I agree with most of what was said. However, I love First Class so much. I have plenty of problems with the director and some of the storytelling choices, but the character work between McAvoy and Fassbender has me more emotionally invested than almost anything else in the franchise... with some obvious Logan-sized exceptions.

@alexanderadonyae7937

Ай бұрын

The Wolverine was good but.. First Class was waaaaay better

@spencerroush431

Ай бұрын

@@alexanderadonyae7937 I completely agree

Love your stuff keep it up

AVI ARAD worked on the first movies as executive producer But for the 3rd movie, he decided to step in as the main producer That's why we got a movie done by a director with no passion, and a limited story overstuffed with characters, just so he could sell more toys

@jacksykes4680

Ай бұрын

So the lesson here is Keep him far away from anything marvel

@Zombiesnyder13

Ай бұрын

​@@jacksykes4680 Not just that He's also behind Borderlands, Zelda and Naruto

@jacksykes4680

Ай бұрын

@@Zombiesnyder13 uh oh

@captainrayman1815

7 күн бұрын

​@@Zombiesnyder13behind what??? NARUTO???

Saying DP2 is a movie "you only need to see once" is... definitely a take.

Unsorted? That's dumb imo lol be tough and rank it and just love with whatever happens after

Always when I rewatch this series I skip The Last Stand and the Wolverine movies, and end with Days of Future Past. That makes it an amazing series and it's still cohesive as a story. It feels more like something with a start and an end. There's enough of Wolverine's backstory in X2 to make sense and even the look on Logan's face when he sees Jean again in the end could be interpreted as "confused to see his friends alive again". I like to watch Logan as a separate movie.

@GonzoTehGreat

Ай бұрын

DoFP references Last Stand, so you could include it, as it was disappointing, but not horrible... However, Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix are best forgotten.

When having 13 ranks and by the time a 3rd unrank movie got put it I’m just I’m done watching

I respectfully disagree with you...I like the Wolverine and it was good but First Class was waaaaay better 🔥

I think you got the rankings just right. Didn't like the fact that Apocalypse was ranked 11th but after all the slots filled up, thats where it had to be. And I think we all can agree Dark Phoenix belongs at the last spot. So, Good Job!

Didn't you say that Dark Phoenix suppose to be a two-parter but its sequel got canned? That film even ended with a sequel tease. It's an incomplete adaptation so it makes sense to why it leaves out parts from the comics. They were saving it for a potential sequel. Cramming an entire saga would have created even more problems.

‏‪12:39‬‏ where can I watch the rouge cut?

I personally love origins, as a kid the movie made me fall in love with superhero movies

This just...isn't correct at all in my op 😂

Good video. I liked the ranking for the most part. I feel DP1 should be higher... 3rd (or 2nd?) maybe. The rest can stay where the are.

Deadpool 2 at 9 is crazy 😅😂😂😂

I will not let you slander the unknown potential of Channing Tatum's Gambit.

@FoTheHoe

Ай бұрын

There is no potential it’s not a good idea💀💀

Ranking by spending the first half of the video putting them in unsorted? What?

Magneto didn't even appear in Dark Phoenix until over halfway through the film's runtime and only gets 13 minutes of screentime. With all due respect, I would argue that saying the movie is about Magento is silly since he barely appears it. The stuff with him was a B-story. I feel like this is just a case of cognitive bias.

@johnbecher85

Ай бұрын

Absolutely.

Fox would’ve had a perfect record with these movies if they followed most of the animated series especially with X3 and the dark Phoenix

"We did not need to see Channing Tatum ever." I wholeheartedly agree!

How about you write down how you want rank the movies before filming the video

I'm not gonna lie, the movies that are bad in this franchise are not nearly as bad as they seemed. I think all the expectations put on them hurt them more than anything and when viewed on their own merits have good to them. However, they make a couple HUGE mistakes that are pretty core to the X-Men (Cyclops' role, Storm's role, Phoenix being done correctly, etc.) and it hurts every movie outside of the top tier of the franchise.

@KarolGacek18

Ай бұрын

I rewatched most of the xmen movies recently and comparing those lesser xmen movies to the current MCU is like night and day strangely enough

@talesofderp

Ай бұрын

@@KarolGacek18 i do think that part of the reason why some of the X movies have aged better than others is because we don’t really get superhero movies like that anymore, and with that absence our hearts have grown fonder to the style. The things those movies did well is amplified while the bad things aren’t focused on. that’s not even factoring in nostalgia, which is so strong for that era in media right now people are acting like Star Wars Episodes 1 and 2 are actually 4 star movies lmao

I would’ve put First Class at the bottom with Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix personally, for the rest I totally agree even though DeadPool 2 is still, more enjoyable to watch then most of the movies you putted before him in your list :)

I love Deadpool 2. I do not know where it ranks because I think the Deadpool movies are on their own separate from the rest of the x-men movies.

I will say this about Dark Phoenix, the train fight was sick

I’m kind of curious after seeing this list is what is Erik’s 10 superhero media (shows, animated, and live action movies)

5:33 that’s why THE Wolverine is one of my top underrated superhero movies

I agree with this ranking!

Such a fresh way to review a series

I will give the Wolverine a rewatch because I believe Deadpool too, and the wolverine should be swapped in the ranking. That’s just my opinion.

With the movies I’ve seen, my ranking is: 1. Logan 2. X-Men: Days of Future Past 3. X-Men: First Class 4. X-Men 2 5. Deadpool 2 6. Deadpool 7. The Wolverine 8. X-Men 9. X-Men: Apocalypse 10. X-Men Origins: Wolverine 11. X-Men: Dark Phoenix

They were definitely better than I remembered. I enjoyed this rewatch. I would rank Deadpool 2 higher, right with Deadpool 1.

Spot on

lol... I lowkey kinda like dark pheonix

X Men franchise-4 Razzies F4 Fox franchise-4 Razzies Monsterverse - 1 Razzie (0%-50%) DCEU- 5 Razzies (0%-50%) MCU- 2 Razzies (Inhumans-lowest(11%) and Quantumania -highest rated Marvel Razzie(46%)) SSU- 4 Razzies including Venom Highest rated Marvel Razzie & Lowest rated MCU film=Quantumania - 46% Lowest rated MCU Razzie=Inhumans -11% Worst of Marvel=Fant4stic-9% Highest rated DCEU Razzie-=Shazam 2 -49% Worst Superhero film ever-Catwoman -9% Lowest rated DCEU Razzie- Suicide Squad(theatrical)-26% BvS-29%

X2 is the best movie in my opinion.

@location7787

Ай бұрын

W it has so many amazing moments

@johnbecher85

Ай бұрын

X2 definitely has stood the test of time.

Better than we remember? No, worse actually. Especially in comparsion with X-Men '97

I actually really enjoyed Wolverine Origins, other than them fumbling the character arcs before the third act! Great cast, and almost a very awesome story

I’m pretty much in agreement here. Maybe only switching Origins: Wolverine and Apocalypse…

I was 12 when X-men Origins Wolverine came out and that shit ruled.

How weird is it? Kevin got his big break because he made a point to read the comics nowadays they are happy not to read them encouraged

Logan is #3 for me. I just can’t put it above Days of Future Past or X2 because I’ve only been able to bring myself to watch it twice in the 7 years since it came out.. it’s an essentially perfect movie but so painful to watch

@TreBouncee

Ай бұрын

I’ve only seen it twice because I can’t take it 🤦🏽‍♂️

Overall agree with your list although I would personally put first class higher

great ranking. pretty spot on with mine. 👍🏽

Not Deadpool 2 at 9😂😂

Ryan Reynolds played Juggernaut due to budget constraints, never was a selfish choice

I'm here after watching ep. 5 of 97 and idk how u guys will be able to break this down. Im conflicted and sad and marvel will be paying for my therapy trips

Deadpool 2 at 9 is outrageous imo easily top 5

Anyone know where to find Days of Future Past Rogue Cut?

DP2 is mostly just Ryan Reynolds Ryan Reynoldsing everybody 😂 that’s so accurate😂😂

I agree with your ranking 10000%

The AUDACITY to put Deadpool behind any of these films besides Logan baffles me. Honestly it's probably tied for first with Logan. Even Deadpool 2 still better than the other X-men movies.

Good video

I can just hear all little kids screaming chew it and do it now lol😅

I do believe your pretty close with your thoughts on where these movies go. I've been watching these movies over the years and some have held my attention but some have not

This list is actually super good imo the only things I would disagree with is dp 2 that low and I would bump the first Deadpool over days of future past and put dp2 under days of future past in my personal opinion then everything else looks perfect to me

Deadpool 2 at #9 is nuts

One nitpick about the mutant kids in Logan. Colossus, Wolverine and his kids are the front line tank class of Mutants that can soak all the damage. Most mutants have normal human durability with crap powers, ranged powers or vague mind powers.

I can't believe First Class is so high on the list, it is hard to overlook how thoroughly it betrays the source material. The decision to center the relationship between Magneto Charles and a bafflingly rewritten Mystique, made the franchise unrecognizable to long time fans and doomed the sequels by forcing the film makers to shoehorn that relationship into the storylines they were adapting.

@mr.iiconic

Ай бұрын

Look, I'm all about the source material and I hope the MCU starts with the REAL first class as it's my personal favourite lineup. Still, this movie captured the FEEL of the X-Men more than any other movie. It felt like a movie about the team, where Havok, Banshee and Beast were given something to do in a way side characters in other X-Men movies never did. Tbh, I don't really love ANY of Fox's X-Men films but this is the only one that felt like it was about an ensemble and not Wolverine or Mystique.

10:53 I havent finished watching the video, but how can you call this a "ranking" if 4 of the first 6 movies discussed arent ranked? Why not just do the ranking section at the end ibstead of separating each movie discussion woth a ranking session?

Great vid, thanks NR!

I think this list is fine. Logan is definitely number 1, and where you put the rest fit with maybe some movements up or down but where you ranked them, I believe generally would be agreed upon for most people. the only movie id move up to a would be Deadpool 2, probably above 1st class. I think it does get better upon re-watch and is more enjoyable. I have been re-watching them again so I'm interested if ill have the same opinion on some of these

Hope we get Sinister and then Krakoa in the MCU.

I like the Dark Phoenix!!!!

I had a similar experience with Deadpool 2. I hadn't seen it in awhile and wanted to watch it but everytime I'd be looking for something I'd think back to Deadpool 2 and I could only think of a couple of things I actually liked about it. When I eventually sat down to watch the thing it was a bit of a let down.

I couldn’t watch Logan again, but I could watch Deadpool2 over and over. So much more visually entertaining.

I have LOGAN and Days of future past as the top 2

@w_a_v_22

22 күн бұрын

The only ones I like lol

great video. dont think you needed to speed this one up tho

I agree with this entire list. Except I'd move the first movie up

I was always upset that instead of Colossus vs Juggernaut in X3, they gave us Kity Pryde vs Juggernaut

I'd switch The Wolverine and Deadpool 2 and that would be closer to mine.

Love from Belgium 🇧🇪 ❤

It took him the very last xmen video to stop saying "snikt snikt" LOL

I feel like the problem with Sophie Turner and Jennifer Lawrence was with direction and the material more than their acting.

I'd say my Top 3 are: 1) Logan 2) Days Of Future Past 3) Deadpool

Days of Future Past is my personal favourite X-Men film tbh. Deadpool would either be first or second if I included those films in the X-Men group. Origins is also my favourite Wolverine solo film.

Wolvi Origins is so nowhere NEAR as bad as Last Stand, nor as unenjoyable but the rest of this list is pretty solid