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Wow! DC Fast Charging Volkswagen ID.3 (62kWh) Shows Improvements From New Software
Kyle charges up the new VW ID.3 pro 62kWh gross 58kWh usable from 0-100% in our standard charging test. He’s impressed with the peak charging rate on the midsize pack matching or even exceeding the large 77kWh usable pack we’ve tested before.
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CCS was implemented as the European standard. Even Teslas come with CCS here, that’s why you’ll often find Teslas charging at “ordinary” charging stations when there are no superchargers around.
@sprockkets
2 жыл бұрын
Well, Tesla has no choice but to use it lol.
I wish the ID3 would come to the states. It's so cute😍
Love the amount of charging detail provided by the European DC Fast chargers.
@M4XC4V413R4
2 жыл бұрын
It depends a lot on the charger, some barely say anything.
Kyle is next level knowledgeable on charging info and tech details. Blows away a lot of other fan boy Tesla videos
Thanks for the video. The battery is advertised with 58kWh usable capacity in Germany.
That ID 3 is a nice looking hatch and needs to come to the USA ASAP!!!
I love the ID models. VW did a great job.
@stefyyy1994
Жыл бұрын
lol, VW did a disaster with ID models. There are so much better and more advanced options out there its ridiculous...
Hey, the charging station screen was actually accurate. It said 60 minutes to 100% charge when you plugged it in, and that's what you got.
FYI - CCS is the whole European standard. Chademo is dead in here, only old Nissans have it (and old Tesla Model S/X with adapter) new cars must have CCS for DC charging.
@markfitzpatrick6692
2 жыл бұрын
We know that. Chademo is not dead yet as long as there are Nissan leafs or I miev,s that use it like my leaf . I don’t care that the aria won’t use it leafs new and old do
The guy from Battery Life has one of the first ID.3 delivered to customers, in his 2-100% test back then he reached 80% in 39 Minutes (he used an IONITY charger that doesn’t show seconds), now 0-80% took only 36,5 minutes. So for a normal charging session you win 2-3 minutes with the new software.
130kW charging, that's new. In the older software it was limited to 100kW. Now I just have to get the OTA update for my ID.3. No sign of it yet...
@majklson15
2 жыл бұрын
I am curious what SW version this car had, because from what I read update v2.3 does not change the charging speed. Either I am wrong or this must be some different update.
@EV.Furkan
2 жыл бұрын
OTA to 2.3 doesnt update the charging curve... a fresh MY22 Car from the plant has the new software bits.. now the question is.. are these different hardware modules or just software.
@automatix5
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, thats new. But above 30% it's exactly the same charging curve as before.
@maz6701
2 жыл бұрын
@@EV.Furkan when will you get access to one of these?
Another awesome test Kyle I wish I could get a id3 here or Honda E
This battery pack was limited to 100 kW for the MY 20 and 21. MY 22 is announced with 120 kW peak charging power. The chiller is a 5kW unit, but in some tests from Björn you could see that it takes quite long (from 40% if I remember correctly) for the car to start cooling the cells. Don’t know maybe VW has decided to go 125 kW on the mid battery.
This charging curve is almost exactly what I get on my Model Y SR. Usually under 100kW by 40%
@EinzigfreierName
2 жыл бұрын
@linkzable How we know your comment is not FUD? :-)
OK ,Kyle you must be an engineer student ? Love technology and it shows .
Please bring this car to America
The first ~5 minutes of this video are in desperate need of an audio notch filter to remove the high frequency whine from that charger. Great video though, thanks!
It seems like you keep choosing the cable opposite of the space you are in (in other vids as well). Is there a reason for that?
@benjaminschneider4555
2 жыл бұрын
That's right, if you want to charge on a Super Charger, the charging socket on a Volkswagen is on the right side, on combustion engines the cap for refueling is there, on Tesla the socket for charging is on the left at the back. The charging cable does not reach the socket on the VW, you have to park your car one space to the left, then it works, but you then actually occupy 2 spaces.
Can you remember roughly how long you had been driving prior to charging and what was the ambient temp before you began?
I do like the id3! I hope it comes to the US!
4:27 Smart move. Those efacec charging stations are just the worst, especially the ones operated by Allego. Always look out for the bulky Alpitronic stations like the one you ended up using. Those are solid and reliable.
What does ID.4 stand for? I was told by someone online but don’t recall. The lady at the VW center didn’t figure it out. I told her but I forgot. Anybody know?
@sexpistill
2 жыл бұрын
Nothing really. With the ID3 it represents VWs 3rd "great idea", the first being the Beetle and Golf being the second from there it is just a naming scheme.
@CK-be3hf
2 жыл бұрын
Intelligent Design
Feel the gen.2 of the ID cars will be amazing
Are those Imperial minutes or Metric?
@WeilBaumDing
2 жыл бұрын
Wth are imperial minutes?
@Mada_1337
2 жыл бұрын
@@WeilBaumDing A joke my friend. As an American we will measure anything, as long as we don't have to measure it using the metric system.
@WeilBaumDing
2 жыл бұрын
@@Mada_1337 welp, I was already questioning myself. But I guess your point is true ^^
Could be the station too, allegro is not the "reliable" station to charge....Might wanna try that again at a different station like EnBW..
A little too blurry with the camera spinning in the dark, but overall good quality!
Surprising that you made it work that well on an Allego charging station. Allego tends to suck and not work properly.
@automatix5
2 жыл бұрын
Alpitronic is very reliable. Maybe the Efacec charger didn't work, i had trouble with it at the last time i charged there.
@xxzmk
2 жыл бұрын
@@automatix5 Yeah the Alpitronics are fine. I think EnBW uses those majorly.
@automatix5
2 жыл бұрын
@@xxzmk Allego is also switching to them currently.
Very interesting video but thinking of sitting at a charging station for 30 minutes in the dead of winter in Minnesota doesn’t appeal to me.
@spoenk7448
Жыл бұрын
The problem is not the car but the cold ass state.
An exciting hour at a truck stop.
I wonder how representative a charging curve at Allego is. Allego is notorious for being unreliable and giving you weird charging speeds.
@guglielmomalizia926
2 жыл бұрын
The problem with Allego are the EvBox and Efacec Chargers, luckily they are now only installing Alpitronic Charger and substituting the other one.
I do wonder the value of and ID4 with smaller battery
@MsKewi-NYC
2 жыл бұрын
I don't see them bringing that battery to the U.S. with the ID.4 big such a big/ heavy car. It's better in the ID.3 smaller/ lighter car for local city drivers. Not mix driving which Americans tend to do more of not to mention we pack our car adding more weight.
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You don't get the ID3, the ID3 Pro, or the ID4 GTX or the largest wheels,or AR HUDs, and heat pumps Pity.
Do you have the curve.
10 - 80% = 33 minutes
58 kWh netto.
you need a german SIM card probably. Hopefully they will sell one to you without an EU home address.
Pester VW about bringing the ID3 to the US
Wow how much the cost of replacing the battery pack every 5 year's ??????????
@petecousins6364
2 жыл бұрын
Who knows - battery will probably outlast the car. My 2017 Kia Soul EV still has 100 SOC after 4 years.
@robert4027
2 жыл бұрын
@@petecousins6364 WOW that is awesome
@mamadouaziza2536
2 жыл бұрын
Batteries are warranted to 8 years.. Depending how often one uses CCS to charge the battery, temperatures where the car is usually parked (hot weather tends to degrade the battery), these batteries should be good for at least 10 years.
I can’t believe they are going to bring a smaller sized pack to the US ID.4. It will probably have a sub-200 mile range. That will not be very well received by Americans at all. If anything, they needed to offer us a LARGER battery pack with closer to 300 miles of range. A 90kWh usable pack would be better in an ID.4 as it is a thirsty girl. I’d also really like to see VW drastically improve efficiency. A vehicle the size of the ID.4 should be doing a MINIMUM of 3 miles per kWh (333wh/mi) at 75mph.
@CFG39
2 жыл бұрын
@Ferdi Posh the issue is in the US there is a very big problem with a lack of CCS chargers. 205 miles is not enough to get to and from each station, especially when you typically will only be charging to 80% at each station, and trying to charge again before you get much below 10%, so you really only have 70% of that 205 mile range, or about 140 miles. That’s in summer. Add in rain that uses the wipers which consume a ton of energy, or snow or cold and you are near 100-120 miles of usable energy per charge. That sucks.
Skip to 6:40 if you want to avoid ear-piercing screams from the charger.
Kyle can go to a country that doesn't speak English. And charges the car without any problem.
@spoenk7448
Жыл бұрын
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Careful; its VW - they could be displaying high charge when they detect you're watching...
Kyle needs to stop posting about the id3. I already wanted one here in the US and these videos are making it worse!
@FreeAgent99
2 жыл бұрын
Can't u just import it by your own? Pretty expensive I believe?
Very very poor camera person. Too much swinging around.
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Kyle, you have obviously become VW Group's promoter, and it is fair to put a disclaimer if it is a paid promotion (directly or indirectly).
You should test something with LFP batteries... find a model Y or 3. Also eat a bratwurst.