Direct to consumer is the only way to get rid of the greedy dealer markups

@justinfowler2857

Жыл бұрын

Dealer: This new ID Buzz can be yours for the low low price of 20k more than what we posted online.

@Charlesbjtown

Жыл бұрын

​@@justinfowler2857 Also comes with dealer installed "premium nitrogen" in your tires for the ultra low price of $986.

@Jtrisna

Жыл бұрын

Yes, you’re right. Car dealer make the maker bankrupt.

@stevevarga8621

Жыл бұрын

In Canada dealer mark ups are illegal so it’s a non issue here.

@Breadfan00

Жыл бұрын

Ridiculous, in normal times you get dealer discounts.

Thanks for putting out the most detailed debut video so far. Great work! Looking forward to getting mine in a couple years.

I love the look and overall build of this vehicle. Really hopeful that we get the mini-camper version at some point. That is the type of vehicle I'd want to take to campgrounds and RV parks for a long weekend

@marknewman3360

Жыл бұрын

Agree. I like modern look without losing connection to original car.

@GarthGoldberg

Жыл бұрын

It would be great to be able to plug in and use the A/C at a campground.

@laura-ann.0726

11 ай бұрын

Depends on what type of campgrounds you like. If you are into US Forest Service, BLM, and National Park campgrounds, hardly any of these have hookups, and most are in such remote areas that there's no way you could go camping to them in an EV - none of them have enough range, especially if the campground you are talking about is in mountainous terrain, where the range of an EV is maybe half what you get in flat terrain. I love the idea of a camper-van version of the ID Buzz, as a successor to the old air-cooled VW micro-bus Vanagon, but the vast majority of State and Federal Park campgrounds, at least currently, simply have zero support for EV's. If the ID Buzz were a PHEV instead of a pure EV, it would be a GREAT base for a camper van conversion, but so far, the only PHEV mini-van in the US is being made by a company that has been through 3 different owners in recent years, and even when it was still "Chrysler corporation", the quality of their cars was arguably the worst of the three US manufacturers.

@barthesdahl8210

9 ай бұрын

@@laura-ann.0726 Good points there. I know it's about US spec, but I live in Switzerland where everything is much closer, and it would be possible to top-up the battery just before going really up the mountain. So range is less of an issue. Also going up drains the battery, but going down recharges it so you don't need much to go back. For me it sounds ideal for trips of mostly 2-300km and 1 or 2 nights. In the US I imagine it's great for surfing, but not to go far into the wild.

@peterawalker3

7 ай бұрын

If there's a 120V standard outlet you can. I bring a portable Level 1 charger when I charge and if I find an outlet I can get about a 50% charge overnight on my VW ID.4@@marknewman3360

This could sell well. But, I fear it’ll be priced way too high for sales to really fly. I sure hope I’m wrong. Thanks Kyle and your whole team. Lotsa love to all ❤❤❤

@SteveBueche1027

Жыл бұрын

Currently set at $40K

@chags3512

Жыл бұрын

@@SteveBueche1027 lol no way. This thing will be $60-70k fully spec’d

@RunForPeace-hk1cu

Жыл бұрын

@@chags3512 No fully spec'd car will sell for $40k ... ofc when you hear quotes it's base price. But I think the base model is already fairly equpped.

@chags3512

Жыл бұрын

@@RunForPeace-hk1cu right. I heard today that VW may be making them almost all fully spec’s. Massage seats standard for example. That’s why I think it will be 55-60k

@cypvh74

Жыл бұрын

@@chags3512 higher.

Great review! As a former 1985 VW Vanagon Westfalia, 1987 Vanagon Weekender, and 1993 Eurovan Weekender owner, I love that this is coming to North America. The rear facing 2nd row chairs, fold out table, and V2L would make this an epic road trip vehicle.

@DS-pk4eh

Жыл бұрын

Do you find their prices went really up since you first got VW?

@0e-michigan

Жыл бұрын

@@DS-pk4eh Yes, of course. I never bought new vehicles back in those days either though. The Westies were never cheap.

@bugnut82

11 ай бұрын

For sure, my wife is super excited. We might get this to replace our 93 Eurovan Weekender. She can daily the van, and I'll daily my 62 Bug, I only live 20 min from work.

@geesh8709

10 ай бұрын

...until you run out of electricity, then the "epic-ness" will be less "epic".

@nielsdebakker3283

9 ай бұрын

@@geesh8709 same goes for gas...

That blue & white buzz brings back memories. My first "car" was a '68 VW Panel Van (no seats, upholstery or windows behind the drivers seat) in almost that exact same color scheme ... white up, blue down.

All cars should have a flexible partition net like this. Hope to see a video about how to secure the luggage in SUV’s and vans in the future. It’s hilarious that you’re not allowed to have matrix lights in the US, no table for the passengers etc, while loose items in the trunk are flying around like projectiles in the passenger compartment.

@bikerkat01

9 ай бұрын

They should have an area in the back that will allow for a cargo net to hold things in place.

What a cool car, I've seen them driving around where I live and it's the one and only electric car that I am actually excited about, it looks cool (I live in Europe) and it is cool. The fact that VW took an old iconic classic and converted it to a modern look is just so cool. The American version of the car is even better, so hopefully it will also cascade down to Europe. Most electric cars look just like.... cars. But this is the first one to actually create a buzz, and it's very aptly named. Great review, I've subbed, thanks.

@rcajavus8141

Жыл бұрын

so go and buy it, its only 62k euro

I have a feeling this will be Kyle’s new “Mobile Home”.

@terrymattingly6843

Жыл бұрын

Depends on charge port decision, of course. Will VW follow Ford?

@joseaquino7783

Жыл бұрын

@@terrymattingly6843 maybe not because they owned EA

@terrymattingly6843

Жыл бұрын

@@joseaquino7783 That was my point. Inside joke.

@Superman-xr1oh

Жыл бұрын

​@@terrymattingly6843 🙄

@charliecasey550

Жыл бұрын

Will cost as much as a 'real' house.

Is it cheap enough for a Hippie? ✌️🌝

@BremboT

Жыл бұрын

😂 nope. It's a poser. If the hippies want a 7 seater hauler, Kia is their friend.

@ALRinaldi

Жыл бұрын

I think you already know the answer to this question… 🤣

@bardz0sz

Жыл бұрын

It will be, maybe in 20 years 😂

@jmanjr

Жыл бұрын

yea the modern day hippie who requires massaging seats ;)

@ABowlofPho

Жыл бұрын

It'll be perfect for the modern day hippie, is what I'll have to guess.

Love the windows!!! Glad you spent time showing it

I didn't think I wanted a larger vehicle, but this is freaking awesome! I'm looking forward to seeing it.

Awesome early look, Kyle. Good that VW has another year. VW, send it out with FULLY Capable s/w, INCLUDING battery PreConditioning Please!!

Amazing,mindblowing,gamechanging!

Finally!!! I’m so excited about this one!

I subscribed after witnessing your enthusiasm for the windows!! Thanks for showing me what it looks like from outside ❤️

Thanks for saying 'North American' spec! US reviewers often forget specs can get different between US and Canada sometimes. Also wish we were getting the short wheelbase.

@YKSGuy

Жыл бұрын

Ya the detail on the heat pump is VERY important for efficiency in cold weather. I have some doubts about this one being able to do camping trips due to range without extra long top up stops with that big battery. Going to need to wait and see what the real world range is and some cold weather testing.

I would add a feature to manually open and close the side windows: they slide, so moving them by hand would be faster and more convenient, at least in some situations.

The best first-look video of them all (yes, I watched them all).

I've never wanted a van before. That thing is gorgeous. I love that white/blue paint scheme.

Great review. I just really wish VW would consider a larger battery pack for the US. If we assume EPA at 250-260mi...you start driving this at 70mph, add 3 or 4 passengers and some cool/cold weather the range will easily be under 200mi. Thats kind of rough for a road trip. I really think 300mi is the minimum for a road trip vehicle...

@omariwest9068

11 ай бұрын

Agreed! - however I do think they’re betting that 90% of the user’s travel will me shorter commutes in places with abundant charging networks. I personally would not buy an EV unless it had 500 miles range and 15-minute or shorter charging time.

@OMGWTFLOLSMH

11 ай бұрын

EVs in the shape of a brick are not designed for long range highway use. These are urban runabouts.

My goodness this car is so cool. I would want one just to have one.

GREAT IN-DEPTH Review!! Thanks :)

Like it. My neighbor has one of these old version. The first time I saw it, I loved it. I will definitely try this new version. Thanks KZread.

It's not North American spec until it uses the North American Charging Standard (NACS). 🙂

I wish they could’ve pushed it past that 300 mile range number

@brunoheggli2888

Жыл бұрын

Why?

@keco185

Жыл бұрын

@@brunoheggli2888 300 miles is the number that makes an EV a good road tripping car for me. It’s that magic point where the charging frequency lines up with when I want to stop.

@doneB830

Жыл бұрын

I agree for Australia 300 mile minimum

@brunoheggli2888

Жыл бұрын

@@keco185 No

@keco185

Жыл бұрын

@@brunoheggli2888 oh I’m glad you know more about my preferences than I do. I’m clearly mistaken. It’s not like I’ve driven EVs on road trips and know what works well for me or anything crazy like that

Finally was the 1st to watch one of your videos - thanks for the content

Glad they designed opening windows for the backseats!!! …That was my biggest deterrence from signing up for an e-bus! I have large dogs and they will love the windows opening!

Glad it finally made it to the NA market. The 2017 showing of the concept seems like a lifetime ago. Curious to learn about availability & pricing, given the 6 year hype.

I love this!

Thanks for the Chattanooga plug Kyle. We would love to add the ID Buzz to our assembly plant! Cheers!

Yes!!! I want one so bad!!!

Nice vehicle. Two disappointing things:1)Why does everything coming to the US have to be super-sized? We’re not all fat, after all.2) This idea of teasing the public with a vehicle years before being available is not a good idea. By the time you can buy it, the “buzz” (sorry) has worn off and public interest has moved elsewhere.

@bardz0sz

Жыл бұрын

You are right about #2, but 1/3 of Americans are obese, with a total of about 70% overweight, and on average, the US consumer things bigger=better

@jorgeu111

Жыл бұрын

its about market segments. The short wheel base wouldn't be able to compete with minivans nor SUVs. They need to place it in a way that sells. But In general, culturally, americans drive longer, haul more stuff, more people, dogs, camping gear. Lots of things that are very different in Europe.

this car is awesome, the interiour rocks. I love the colors. This car brings the real surfer, Bus T1 and T2 vibes to 2023.

I'm in LOVE!! What a van!

It appears that the ID Buzz will be coming to Australia in 2025 as well. I am wondering if the spec we will get will be closer to US or European spec. It is great to see a modern version of the classic Kombi. Great review as always Kyle!

@TrainsFerriesFeet

Жыл бұрын

I'd guess you would get the U.S. Spec.

@jedrzejgorski5437

Жыл бұрын

There is no such thing as US and Euro specs apart from silly things like lamps. US is getting only a lwb, which is not produced yet. Most of other markets will get both wheelbases.

@Mimeniia

Жыл бұрын

Personally, I see no classic Kombi DNA whatsoever. If they gave it to GWM to design, we might have an actual classic Kombi reinvented.

@AppleSlipper

Жыл бұрын

@@TrainsFerriesFeet Probably not. All current VW products in Australia match more towards the EU-spec.

Kyle, great review, your the top automotive journalist these days covering EVs and all the technical details. Love how your holding manufacturers accountable to making these products practical for everyday use, keep it up. I’m definitely looking at trading in my Odyssey for one of these once they are available.

@Hybridog

Жыл бұрын

I'd love to do that too, with my Odyssey. However, I do think this beautiful van is going to cost almost twice what a base odyssey costs and that is just too high for me. Maybe a second generation Buzz will be more affordable, as by then batteries will likely cost much, much less than today.

Great video intro of the Bus guys!! i'm a type 2 bus owner .. is getting closer and closer to arrive . thanks for the awesome video !! quick question ? i saw through the window reflection that you shot the video in 4k with an i phone . awesome . did you use a Gimble and what video settings did you had the phone set up . amaizing job on the video shorting so smooth and no shake. small blur some parts but overall 100%%%

These will see so well I predict. Great looking bus!

Interested to see what the pricing is. I could use this to replace our ID.4 and Subaru Ascent. Then could get a fun car or just a car period because I hate having two SUVs 😂

Very nice product, I was able to play with the Euro version recently. Shame about the price, which should have been the same as the ID.4 but clearly will not be even close. $80k is just too much. When the ‘buzz’ passes, families won’t be able to afford this as a real alternative to a gas/hybrid minivan. Very sad.

@bavariancarenthusiast2722

Жыл бұрын

The price need to be competitive agreed - can be / will be cheaper, but the same price as the ID4? by being double the car? For sure not

@jloutz

Жыл бұрын

This is a great comment. It's a very cool minivan, and you won't be able to get one for anything close to MSRP. It's like the Nissan Juke, anyone that thought it was a good idea bought one, and then they just languished on dealership lots.

@Natalie.D

Жыл бұрын

The plug in hybrid mini van starts at 50k so clearly an electric minivan would cost much more.

@abraxastulammo9940

Жыл бұрын

@@bavariancarenthusiast2722 Should be compared to the 7 seater ID6.

@kdlange6052

Жыл бұрын

At 80k you are now competing against Volvo’s ex90 a more premium brand than vw

I've wanted one since I was 12 years old. Can't wait.

Looks like most or all of the additional length went into the door and opening, which is great because the short wheel base version had a door which didn't open all that wide.

Had a new bug with 5 speed , green and so fun… but Gotta say the new beetle fizzled out, But the VW van should be my first EV and maybe become the way to get-around at our beach town , Ventura California, for many decades.

@stefanweilhartner4415

Жыл бұрын

the last beetle looked very nice. a new EV version with the new efficient rear wheel 210kW(286bhp) drivetrain would be fun. i am pretty sure that a new EV beetle will come, but VW first will convert all their ICE cars to EVs and then they have time to care about the beetle. i guess not before 2028

EV9 vs ID Buzz 3rd Row will be interesting. SUV vs Van rivalry in an affordable price range. 32:15

@mluu510

Жыл бұрын

$50k+ is affordable? You are privileged

@garyclark6747

Жыл бұрын

@@mluu510 Wrong guy. To clarify not R1S or Model X 3 Row 💰💰💰

@cypvh74

Жыл бұрын

Neither of those vehicles are in the affordable price range.

Thanks to the interesting presentation, it was the first time I've watched the entire review for a car I cannot afford to buy.

I love that window just as much as you do haha this thing is sweet

The Kia EV 9 will already be out in the USA by the time the Buss comes out.

@bill_heywood

Жыл бұрын

That’s a good thing, the 7 seat market needs choice too

Would love a RHD version of this. Hope it comes to other regions.

Seems like they thought of everything. Nice. Nice tour.

That Blue and white is PERFECT!

The more I see things like this, the more I miss my '72 Type 2 bus that I could work on myself. Total cost: $950 for the bus, and $350 for a rebuilt engine (plus extra cooling stuff that VW didn't provide to keep it from self-destructing). So, for around $1500 total investment, I had reliable transportation that ran for more than 90,000 miles over the next 6 years, with proper maintenance!😉

@billsmith5960

11 ай бұрын

My dad bought a 1968 bus for $1500 in 1969. Then in 1977 he installed a Porsche 911 engine in it for a total of $1K. Now I got it for free and it works. Best part is, it can go up hills at a good clip and it has real heat. Plus the mileage is better than when it had that 52hp flat 4 in it.

11:32 I am greatly surprised they have not opened a production line or two in the USA - I would not be surprised if this is a VW ploy or strategy to keep sales and resale prices of the vehicle high as well

@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck

Жыл бұрын

VW has no idea how to build auto factories. VW's expansion plans crashed in 2017. Tesla bought Grohmann Engineering, limiting work to Tesla, so VW (and all the Germans, plus Ford and GM) was S.O.L. VW takes years to retrofit one factory - and their staff aren't skilled at building new ones. GM and Ford are worse. Jim Farley notes Ford opened its last new factory when he was 7 years old, before NASA landed a man on the Moon.

Great video. Small correction: you mentioned there is no one pedal driving. Actually, one pedal driving is the B next to the D (drive) on the instrument cluster. You basically just twist the gear stalk upwards an extra time: further, twists upwards will switch between drive and one pedal (B is for regen brake). Same system on the ID4. A little bit hidden for sure.

@Staticc146

9 ай бұрын

It’s not a full one pedal driving however the car will still creep forward at 1-2 MPH

Best video on the LWB Buzz reveal on KZread.

Nice review! What an incredibly iconic vehicle to see come out on an EV platform. True evolution.

I loved the regular wheelbase, but this is even cooler. Shame it will be even more expensive, it would be the perfect family vehicle

@DavGreg

Жыл бұрын

IDK why VW insists that the US get 3 row Tiguans and now the Buzz. I really wonder who decides these things - considering the low sales volumes in the US I contend they are out of touch.

@RolandoArchDev

Жыл бұрын

InsideEVs this morning is reporting a heads up display. Wonder if that's right?

@terrymattingly6843

Жыл бұрын

Bingo. The whole issue. Wait for Tesla Van?

@dobrzpe

Жыл бұрын

@@RolandoArchDev *THAT'D* be awesome!

@tymanot

Жыл бұрын

​@@RolandoArchDev Available in Europe. Confirmed by VW. But US - Not sure.

I have been waiting for the Buzz for so long ! I love the Tesla I have been driving til the I.D Buzz gets here . I have a new Jetta and Tigaun too . This Buzz will work great for my Rideshare gig !❤

I love this van, but can't wait to see the next model with the improvements seen on the ID ALL

one of the real substantial improvements in the VW MEB is the new drive train that includes the new in-house developed motor with more oompf and efficiency and more efficient inverter as well. that will be rolled out to the id.4/5 and skoda enyaq and audi q4. i hope at some point for the id.3 too. that would be great. regarding the battery, VW need better modules. pretty much the same like 2019. that is a bit dated. they should add a more modern module as option with 17% more energy density to reach 100kWh net.

whats with companies putting the charge ports on the passenger side? It makes more sense to be on the driver side.

I completely agree that there should be camp mode. I don't have kids, but I'm really interested in this as a camper for frequent road trips and everyday commuting car. I would love a pet mode for popping into a shop too, but definitely the camp mode. Thanks for the suggestion that the lack of backseat tray might be about crash regulations. I was actually sad about it as I think they would be super handy (roadtrips). In Canada, so I'll have to see whether the three or two rows will be best for sleeping and camper use. Solar panel option would be great but I love sunroofs too.

also - hope those interior accents can be matched to the paint, i.e. why orange interior with blue paint?

I have to say it seems to be a pretty great vehicle. VW seem to be positioning it as a semi-luxury lifestyle entry and that's fine for now. I do hope that as EV batteries and tech in general become more mainstream the price will drop and that less fully optioned version will be offered. It's not that I can't afford expensive cars, I just don't want to pay for them as the value received never seems to match the money paid.

Love it but no one pedal driving makes it a no for me.

@jorgeu111

Жыл бұрын

that sounds like you're a Tesla owner. Very different segment. I don't think they care or need to care. What I noted is that once people go Tesla they stay there.

The sliding rear windows reminds me of the original sliding manual windows on the last model years of the German VW Buses, from 1977 to 1979. Earlier models only had a vent wing on the rear windows, or louvers for the camper models.

We had 2 VW buses growing up. Would love to get one of these!

Everything is great except the range, needs to be like 300 or more.

If price is too high, people won't pay it. If markups continue, dealers need to go !!!!! They're just crooks with a license !!! I owned an original Toyota called the van. Looked like lost in space vehicle. One of the best vehicles for traveling and hauling. This looks great, but will it be affordable ???

@josefv8708

Жыл бұрын

It is expensive and will be for a long time. Since Production is too low to fullfill the demand...no need to lower the price at all. Anything coming out of the fabric will be sold to the price they want.

One word for this: ROAD-TRIP!

Excellent review and video! I think this is one of the best reviews that I have EVER seen on any vehicle. I would consider a 5 seat ID. Buzz do you think they will do a 5 seater? To your knowledge are the 5 seat and 7 seat vehicles do they have the same wheelbase and overall length but one has the 7 seats added? I hope you do a part 2 and illustrate what driving it feels like etc. This kind of vehicle was not on my radar but now it is there is something about the feel and look of the vehicle that reminds me of the older school models but with a modern twist. What is interesting about that is the gas vehicles that tried to be old school was not able to nail it like the electric vehicles I wonder why. Good job!

I'm definitely interested in getting one as a sleeper bus to travel the country. I want more colors though!

These electric cars are getting crazy with the tech and design. Really shows the difference from a start up to a legacy automaker

@EnlightenedSavage

Жыл бұрын

The tech is still at least 5 years behind a tesla in every way ,while more expensive.

@Lascarnn

Жыл бұрын

@@EnlightenedSavage Not true. Tesla 3/Y does not have: well tuned suspension, blind spot indicators in mirrors, ventilated seats, HUD, intrument cluster behind the wheel, good physical buttons, light above back seat, parking/rain sensors, apple car play/android auto, adjustable headrest, and more.

@jh5kl

Жыл бұрын

​@@EnlightenedSavageI m having difficulties understanding if you're more on copium or delusion

Volkswagen has truly nailed it with this one.

@yasi4877

Жыл бұрын

Australia here: Range limitations make it a toy only. I need 800 kms minimum and AWD otherwise have to lug around a gasoline powered generator. Those wheels will not last 10,000 kms. Kerbs and flying stones will quickly tear them up. Glass roof not desirable in Australia.

@cypvh74

Жыл бұрын

No. Lackluster range, poor interior design, and gonna be too high $$.

Great review as always Kyle!!! Any word on the camper version? You know - like in the concept with rail system for back seat and tables and more?

Will be great people mover for hotel guests. So many uses primarily for shorter distances though.

Range still isn’t enough…especially with no heat pump

@Dive-Bar-Casanova

Жыл бұрын

The head scratcher is VW was one of the very first to introduce the automobile heat pump years ago.

I read that MSRP will be $70,000 to $80,000 USD. You should start off your video with that spec.

for many it will still be a mini van. with that said i'd rock one!

Great review, Kyle. Welldone!👏. Quick question, does the roof open, just like most other minivans?

they would be smart to start making the base versions in chatanooga ASAP. 45-50k base - tax credit, makes these a great buy vs. gasoline vans in the low 40k's upper 30k's. That sunroof would be hard to give up though, lol

@POTThaesslich

Жыл бұрын

45k base? I don't think so. more like: sell your house

@robertshunter

Жыл бұрын

As a long time owner of numerous Volkswagens, I can definitively say that you're expecting far too much from VWoA.

The lighted VW badge is allowed in europe since the start of the year but that was most likely to late to make real changes to the european spec car

Thank you very informative

They should do a Tesla sale's model for this to get them to people that want them and to control mark-ups.

@fabi-9971

Жыл бұрын

I think they can't because in the US dealers have a right to sell any car of a carmaker they sign a contract with.

@joshmatlock1020

Жыл бұрын

@@fabi-9971 I figured there were probably rules in place like that...I just think those rules should change. The Tesla model (and other start-ups like Rivian and Lucid) have such good and simple buying experiences that it would be hard for me to go deal with a dealership ever again.

@Deetroiter

Жыл бұрын

Love the idea of VW and other manufacturers EV’s but I refuse to play into their games with stealerships. Tesla was by far the easiest and best vehicle purchase experience I’ve ever dealt with. Won’t be a victim at stealerships ever again long as I can help it. No hidden fees, no sleazy salespeople and general managers, etc…just a few clicks of the mouse, wait a couple of weeks, and then it’s even delivered to my driveway. No hidden nonsense or games

@joshmatlock1020

Жыл бұрын

@@Deetroiter Exactly.

Everyone just forgets about Diesel gate?

That blue is stunning

Beautiful Vehicle. I have the feeling that it will sell well in the US, especially in california

I hate big wheels. It increases unsprung weight which affects handling and mileage. Plus tires more expensive. Rims more prone to scuffs as less rubber. I always go with 18’s or 19’s max . Pick up a 20 inch mag and compare weight with 18 inch. It’s significant

They should really offer some vintage color matched metal wheels for this. They’re aerodynamic and cheap, and they’d be a great throwback

Love it, would like to see the captain chair version.

Looking forward to getting me one!

That sliding window basically works the same way most airliner doors work (plug type)

@MandyFlame

Жыл бұрын

It’s a sun roof mechanism!

Thank you for including Canadian footnotes. It’s always funny the large differences between Canada And USA markets sometimes.

@letsgobrandon5800

Жыл бұрын

Yes, we use miles…….

Hi Kyle gr8 review on ID buzz USA spec, can't wait 4 ur range test. I kindly request u add conversion of measurements as a subtitles on ur videos if possible. M a gr8 fan of ur stuff,, keep producing more videos.

ive seen so many of these being used by company vehicles by trades people, really cool to see.

The design language and aesthetics are nice and it appears to be very utilitarian. However, the big question is how will it perform in the real world? And an equally big question is what about the issue of "market adjustments" by franchise dealers. Good luck getting it at MSRP especially when it launches. Due to federal and state dealer franchise laws VW has essentially no authority or control over what dealers end up charging. We see this happening with Ford EVs and other EV brands as well (except Tesla of course) which ends up crippling demand. Don't get your hopes up too high until the rubber meets the road and this vehicle has proven itself and matches expectations.

@chrisbeer324

Жыл бұрын

The reason that dealers are marking up above MSRP is because the demand for these electric vehicles is so high. And, just for the record: MSRP stands for Manufacturer *SUGGESTED* Retail Price. Dealers are free to charge whatever the customer will pay. And since people are willing to pay more, dealers will charge more - that is how a free market works. I certainly don't want the US federal or state government interfering any more then they do with car dealerships. They have already messed things up enough - just look at the issues Tesla is having trying to sell direct. That is because the dealership lobbies have too much influence. I don't even want to consider what "government price controls" would look like with the current situation.

@f42un84u

9 ай бұрын

If we all boycotted these high prices eventually the prices will come down. Oh I forgot this is Merica, home of the impatient, hyper indivualism, selfish and often stupid. Marketers dream........

Can't get excited for a car that we won't see for 18 months, maybe. I could be dead by then. Not built in USA? So no tax credit and only 100k being built. That will kill this before it starts.

Does it have v2l??? I saw no 120 outlet?

I really like the ID Buzz. Just surprised that the second row seats do not come our or have a center fold down cup holder arm rest.

Overall I love the Buzz. Wish they had gone with LFP battery pack. Wish they had gone with round headlights for a more retro look. Sliding door is a total failure. The whole point of a sliding door is to get more access into the vehicle. In the Buzz you actually get less than the standard door behind the driver's door.

@avagosiewski2018

Жыл бұрын

I am happy with the sliding doors. I need a wheelchair-accessible car with sliding doors. SUVs have displaced minivans from the market, the choice of which is becoming smaller and smaller. It is the only option for people in wheelchairs.