Mazda interiors have improved ten fold over the past five years, it's honestly kind of crazy lol

@TheRealHungryJoe

Жыл бұрын

YT wanted me to rate your comment? I wonder why

@unbeknownstprofile

Жыл бұрын

Mazdas are generally great with quality and reliability so I'm not surprised

@sunnyliu9820

Жыл бұрын

@@unbeknownstprofile that time Mazda built the 6 and it rusted to the point where many became unusable would have to disagree with you XD

@MrMentos876

Жыл бұрын

Nothing but good things since they split with Ford

@bfam1163

Жыл бұрын

That moonroof is niceeee

Mazdas entire lineup is honestly slept on

@Thawhid

10 ай бұрын

Such an under appreciated brand. Unique looking

@theweeknd2725

9 ай бұрын

​@@Thawhidthey had some underperforming engines a while ago, a few things didn't make it the best purchase compared to what you could get in competition

@theweeknd2725

9 ай бұрын

Its looking better now with the removal of NA engines and better turbocharged engines now

@Noadvantage246

8 ай бұрын

@@theweeknd2725Plus they’re one of the few brands not doing the crappy CVT transmissions. Just a good reliable 6 speed

@theweeknd2725

8 ай бұрын

@@Noadvantage246 I mean most have a choice between CVT or 6 speed manual, that depends on the person buying the car which one he wants to go for (like honda)

I’d take the mazda any day. Mazda is criminally underrated. European luxury and comfort with great performance and japanese reliability. You just can’t go wrong.

@Zeek509

Жыл бұрын

Agree 1000%

@gankhiskhan5140

Жыл бұрын

That's not really true. I test drove Mazda a lot recently trying to buy a car. And I didn't like Mazda at all. The interior felt cheap. It looked good but it felt cheap. The infotainment was slow as hell. Which I was told "there will be an update later to make that better". It accelerated worse than a CVT engine from Honda.. which I already thought was weird. Im tall. I didn't fit very well in that car. It felt cramped actually. I didn't feel like I had space as a driver. Reliability isn't a big deal anymore when you're cross shopping against cars that are the same price. Toyota and Honda are also reliable. And you'll get a better engine and more luxury etc. Is Mazda awful? No. But it has some competition and it will still struggle since it gets lumped with Toyota and Honda and they'll usually have more access to dealerships, promotions, cost effectiveness etc. Mazda is priced decently. But for a little bit more you can have a much better car. So they're in a very odd spot in my opinion.

@roboticvenom1935

Жыл бұрын

@@gankhiskhan5140 WHICH Mazda dummy This is a dumb comment. You didn't even mention the MODEL. Jesus, WHICH one

@MegaAmazing19

Жыл бұрын

@@gankhiskhan5140 what year and model Mazda did you take a look at?

@li._.dub_-

Жыл бұрын

@@gankhiskhan5140 what year and model?

Just bought one of these a week ago. I’ve owned several Mazdas and it’s because they’re incredibly reliable, amazing to drive, and they look better than anything in their price range. I used to have a Lexus IS 250 in my single days and the cx50 is the only car I’ve owned since then that feels more luxurious than the Lexus. Mazda simply does not get enough credit for their vehicles. They’re easily the best in the biz right now compared to the competition.

@owascoshaw

Жыл бұрын

Congratz on car. Any updates, pros or cons so far? Thanks!

@Iamdesignproducts

11 ай бұрын

I just sold my Audi S3 and I am heavily considering this cx-50

@myroslavgrynyuk7011

10 ай бұрын

I wouldn't compare mazda to Lexus I was considering to buy cx50 but once sat and drove didn't like it. If you touch the buttons or anything in the interior feels super cheap and back space is horrible especially the transmission tunnel. I went with acura because it has the sporty drive and quality just like Lexus miles far in the interior as well as exterior. Was looking forward do cx90 but the back design is weird

@ian8654

9 ай бұрын

Is the Turbo charged Cx50 reliable enough to last a decade tho?

@know916bound

8 ай бұрын

​@@ian8654probably. The cx9s with the same engine can get to 300k miles easily with original turbos if maintained normally... And assuming at least mostly premium fuel being used since either is acceptable.

Mazda has the best mix of reliability, affordability, practicality, and fun on the entire market

Mazda currently have some of the most gorgeous looking cars on the market, i genuinely slow down every time i see one on the street - the lines of their design ethos are so sharp yet flowing & pleasing.

@vauxittt

Жыл бұрын

ugly plastic cladding on some models like this one really spoils the look

@roboticvenom1935

Жыл бұрын

@@vauxittt it's rugged like the outback mate.. The Mazda CX-5 has less/none

You gotta give us a short on your hair routine brother 😂‼️

@forrestsautoreviewsofficial

Жыл бұрын

😂

@Rickiye

Жыл бұрын

@@forrestsautoreviewsofficial Hey Forrest. Would be nice to post the link to the Subaru Outback's short in the description or pinned to the comments for comparison to this Maxda CX 50. Nice short though. *Edit: - Or after you get a chance to review the Outback

@bharatpuri8209

Жыл бұрын

@@forrestsautoreviewsofficial more curly ,with the auto shine system

@roboticvenom1935

Жыл бұрын

@@Rickiye the CX-50 is way better

@sumadre5378

Жыл бұрын

@@forrestsautoreviewsofficial love your videos my guy 🙏🏼

Jeeeezzz this is the first video I've seen on KZread where your time isn't wasted . . . . Right to the point! Love it!

@2004cyrus

2 ай бұрын

Also several inaccuracies- I just bought one of these a week ago

#1 car reviewer on KZread. I missed the traditional "launch" tho. Keep pumping these vids out man. I already watched all the published ones...I need more

"This is the first SUV I've seen with hips" The Volvo XC-90: 👁️👄👁️

@smoothred9453

Жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly

@TRISTENGK

Жыл бұрын

Ain’t no hips on that thing

@gaiusjuliuscaesar9296

Жыл бұрын

@@TRISTENGK I'm talking about the 2002-2014 model big boy

@TRISTENGK

Жыл бұрын

@@gaiusjuliuscaesar9296 even still

@gaiusjuliuscaesar9296

Жыл бұрын

@@TRISTENGK bro literally compare this Mazda to the XC-90

I’ve owned 6 Mazdas from the 6 sedan, the CX-7 crossover, a Mazda 3 and 2 CX-5’s. All have been fantastic, kind of fun, full of soul, well built, refined, economical in all aspects from maintenance to insurance and I’m getting a new CX-50 this week.

Suv with hips 😍 cx-50 have curvs

Course I would, no CVTs, no small displacement turbos

This is the car I’m looking at getting at the end of 2023 or start of 2024. The CX-50 is probably one of if not the best looking SUV in its class

@benk3654

9 ай бұрын

New CRV arguably looks better, but I bet the Mazda drives waaay better.

@Fahad83riaz

6 ай бұрын

Just bought a month back (GT trim). Loving it so far. Mazda really upped their game!

@slapskate

6 ай бұрын

​@@Fahad83riazI I got a 2018 CX-9 GT. Gonna put those Falken Trail tires on it. They look so good on the CX-50 meridian!

You all so forgot to mention that when you put the signal lights on the CX-50 they pulsate, which is very cool frfr!!

@2004cyrus

2 ай бұрын

Really? I drove one and didn’t notice that.

With hips he said😩

They look really good, but I’d go with an Outback.

Cx 50 base for bang for buck. Don’t need turbo if you always drive in city and traffic, and has better mileage than the Turbo version. It’s also about upto $12k difference so base model it is.

I saw one of these on the road the other day, actually pretty nice

This is such a welcome and refreshing change from Doug DeMuro. I'm here to stay

@pedrogriffin1934

9 ай бұрын

This!…😂

@2004cyrus

2 ай бұрын

Doug is over hyped. Not that great. Takes too long to get to the point.

Bro, you do damn good reviews. They need to put you in a commercial on national tv

You should see the Meridian Edition, beautiful

@2004cyrus

2 ай бұрын

Beautiful price too

I don’t think many will cross shop between the CX50 and the Subaru but they are a good comparison. The Subaru will appeal to those looking for safety, reliability and light off road capability. The Mazda will appeal to those looking for a budget sporty luxury SUV.

@haroldbeauchamp3770

Жыл бұрын

Literally no one thinks of Subaru for reliability. Garbage cvt, history of blown head gaskets, oil consumption, valve guide leaks, fuel pump failures, wheel hubs, dead batteries, electrical issues, the list is endless. Subaru appeals to a regional cult following in the Pacific Northwest and Colorado. It’s virtually unseen in the Midwest, the south, east coast, and desert southwest. There’s a small following in New England states like Vermont and Maine.

When you are so early that the thumbnail isnt loaded

I would absolutely take the Mazda over the Subaru. Mazdas are really top notch now.

I picked the Meridian edition cx-50. Had for almost 14k miles so far and haven’t regretted a single mile.

I live in FL. You change the heated seats to ice packs and I’m sold. 😂

Subaru, any day, 89k miles, nothing has broken yet!

@sandroscielzo9964

7 ай бұрын

Cute. My 2014 Mazda 6 has 185k miles and all is in perfect running conditions

@ala1729

6 ай бұрын

@@sandroscielzo9964 I have 2004 Mazda 6 with 288K miles and still running good!

@slandshark

6 ай бұрын

@@sandroscielzo9964 My 2004 Subaru WRX has 243k miles on it and still drives like new. Bought a 2023 Subaru Ascent and we beat the heck out of it driving offroad, still drives like new. It's awesome. You know what I don't see out there when driving offroad? Mazda. Thousands of miles driven offroad and never once seen a mazda out there.

@eddiemikac488

2 ай бұрын

@@slandshark You’re absolutely right. Mazda has never focused on building off-road capable vehicles, and Subaru has an incredibly bulletproof AWD system. However, Mazda‘s predictive i-active AWD system is heavily overlooked, and sadly Mazda just hadn’t really put it to good use. We don’t get the Mazda BT-50 pickup truck here in North America, but i know in Central/South America there’s a massive need for reliable and capable off-road vehicles, and the Mazdas there are selling just as well as Subaru and Toyota because of how well they perform off-road.

@2004cyrus

2 ай бұрын

It shouldn’t as you probably paid a lot of money for it: Mazda is simply way better tho. Try one

“Tent on top and can support the weight of 3 people” What’s the maximum per person? I would be kind nervous

@TranquiloCamilo

Жыл бұрын

20 kilos per person. It’s ridiculous how little capacity these roof bars actually have, only a few cars can actually support a full rooftop tent

@rickjay637

Жыл бұрын

50lbs

@aster22380

Жыл бұрын

200, a person

@MHY558

7 ай бұрын

Japanese person or American person? 😂 because on average the difference is huuuge Yeah they need just say a total weight, and we'll figure out how many persons

@guitardrummer321

6 ай бұрын

3 people or 1.4 Americans

It looks like a combination of the Cx-30 and CX-5..it’s interesting I gotta say

I would definitely chose the Subaru Outback Wilderness over this one.

OMG that is a beautiful car the lights remind me of a owl it's so nice❤️🔥🔥

Your KZread shorts are so addictive

Personally, I used to work for Mazda and maybe I’m a little biased because I got to drive a lot of the Mazda’s but the driving experience in a Mazda is amazing. Even the turbo charged CX five or CX3 or Mazda 6 turbo those things have enough power for you to have fun and for the price and reliability I’d take Mazda over Toyota as far as sedans and SUVs any day.

@2004cyrus

2 ай бұрын

Same here man! Solidarity bro. I’m at Bob Moore Mazda in Oklahoma City

Black cladding to protect the lower side of the car paint from rocks and dirt is genius. 😎👍💯👌😄

DAMN A MAZDA 🤯

MAZDA all day long... the mountain climbing / off road aspects are FUCKING AMAZING!!!

Mazda over CVT all day.

Its been 5 years since i left the states and cars have gotten so much nicer.

Mazda honestly has competition for almost everything. Lower ended Hondas, to higher ended Lexus’ it can still keep up. I’m sad the Mazda6 is gone but am liking the SUVs now . Can even see its higher ended SUVs stack up pretty well with the Audi/Volvos suvs

Forrest the mic has been in the corner of the screen for the last few vids and it's all I can focus on. Love your videos God bless

@bayarea4153

Жыл бұрын

i cant stop staring at it lol

@hyrise76

Жыл бұрын

thanks I can't unsee it now 😂

@gfamacc1055

Жыл бұрын

@@bayarea4153 me neither

Mazda over the Subaru

Believe it or not, I’d rather have the Subaru outback.

Subaru guy here and honestly, this would be a tough choice. Mazda just doesn't seem to be camper friendly, what's the clearance difference? I appreciate that Mazda beefed up the frame for tent toppers but that just shows me they do things to in response to. But...mthe Mazda does make for a nicer ride when in town. Tough choice!

@2004cyrus

2 ай бұрын

This is not meant for off road use. Maybe dirt or gravel is okay but the ground clearance is 8.6”

Mazda has been stepping up. I’d test drive this although I am happy with my Subaru Outback.

@roboticvenom1935

Жыл бұрын

The CX-50 crushes the outback which loses on styling and interior big time, way cheaper looking vehicle no question, shite sound system too unlike the Mazda and worse interior colors(best on outback is plain black)

@danpolo8829

Жыл бұрын

@@roboticvenom1935 the stereo in my outback is not bad at all. It has lots of power and bass for sure. Perhaps it’s not some fancy system but it definitely kicks pretty hard when I crank it. No complaints about the audio from me.

It really depends on the your needs. Mazda is refined and looks great. I wouldn't want to scratch the paint in the woods. Subarus are like tractors, you can work with it

@t3duarte

4 ай бұрын

Outback or CX50?

@manuelsevigny6855

4 ай бұрын

@@t3duarte I'm a Mazda guy

Props to the camera guy great job.

Most people have seen you on KZread, but I first saw you in an Amazon review when I was looking for camera stabilization )

Can you add mpg to your reviews?

@aster22380

Жыл бұрын

He does on a ton

@2004cyrus

2 ай бұрын

These get about 23 with turbo and AWD.

I know you normally do reviews on new cars, but I think it would be really cool to see you do this with a older car, like an early 2000s one

@alfonsoaquino5674

Жыл бұрын

Been thinking the same thing. Like a channel that would be based on used cars hu

Mazda lookin great these days they really stepped it up. Hope to see this continue further on

To anyone saying mazda improved interior "ten fold": wrong, they changed interior alot but i have a rx 8 2004 and it has really good comfy leather heated ventilated seats fully leather dashboard bose sound system leather middle console leather backseats aswell great airco a little car vault, mazda always been great.

Plus My Outback has wayyyy more leg room than that!

@roboticvenom1935

Жыл бұрын

CX50 has a way better interior, better equipment, and much better driving dynamics..

@SushiXBunny

8 ай бұрын

@@roboticvenom1935😂😂😂 better interior??? Than the Outback?! This thing has an interior from a Subaru I got back in 2014! The equipment is the same as our Outback plus the rails are way better.

@roboticvenom1935

8 ай бұрын

@@SushiXBunny Of course? Every reviewer and automotive experts alike would agree with that sentiment. The interior not only has more soft touch but is much more akin to a luxury vehicle's design. The Forester will be dated in just a few years with a almost universally rejected portrait style screen(it's garbajio) and a design that originated from 2015. You will find zero other people who share that despicable opinion. Please I beg you to show me how you view the Mazda cx50 to have the "2015" interior. It's not the CX5 it's a modern design.

@SushiXBunny

8 ай бұрын

@@roboticvenom1935 First, because it looks just like my 2014 Impreza. Second, they are not comparing that Mazda model to a Forester but an Outback. We also own a 2022 Outback XT and it is far more luxurious than that Mazda model.

@souls3029

6 ай бұрын

@@SushiXBunnysays no one ever 😂 there are no unbiased person on this planet that would agree a subaru has better interior than a mazda

I’d get a turbo top spec Subaru Outback

This mechanical detail should not be overlooked on the Mazda CX-50. Mazda used a torsion beam on the rear instead of the multi-link suspension used on Mazda CX-5. The move did not improve packaging for the CX-50 as the cargo space is not larger. Also, the added length did not give any more legroom to back seat passengers, it did but it’s so tiny it’s negligible. Good to know before you buy. Most reviewers say the CX-50 doesn’t charge a penalty for having the torsion beam.

I literally just bought this car, I LOVE it, and that’s coming from a sedan guy

@2004cyrus

2 ай бұрын

Me too last week! Congrats

@2004cyrus

2 ай бұрын

Are you a trainer in the USA bro?

@Dgancher

2 ай бұрын

@@2004cyrus thanks man! And no but that’s something I was thinking of doing!

@2004cyrus

2 ай бұрын

@@Dgancher oh okay well great job on building that physique! You must be at least 5 years in.

I'll take the Mazda over any Subaru. Much more reliable.

Hearing the price tags of what used to be economy brands never gets old

@bradyklockenga7765

Жыл бұрын

While I do agree with you at the same time the interior especially & the exterior in some cases have been improved greatly.

@northernhemisphere4906

Жыл бұрын

@@bradyklockenga7765 would you consider it a premium even as a stretch at some point?

@roboticvenom1935

Жыл бұрын

@@northernhemisphere4906 almost. I don't know what other SUV I'd take over the loaded CX50 at $39k

@northernhemisphere4906

Жыл бұрын

@@roboticvenom1935 what would you like to see in the next iteration if something was lacking for instance?

@its_me_christopher_16

10 ай бұрын

39k ain’t bad

Looks good but no match getting over tricky terrain like a Soob

@2004cyrus

2 ай бұрын

Not the mission here for that.

Test drove the cx50, purchased an Outback,,,,, more comfortable!

Mazdas in general look nicer than any Japanese or Korean cars

@christianbryant5617

10 ай бұрын

Luxury❤

@2004cyrus

2 ай бұрын

Mazda is Japanese

@theFijian

2 ай бұрын

@@2004cyrus I know

@2004cyrus

2 ай бұрын

@@theFijian your comment doesn’t match your knowledge.

@theFijian

2 ай бұрын

@@2004cyrus what are you even talking about?

Your reviews, swag and camera person are almost as clean as your hair. Keep it up!

This guys is such a talented salesman, and speaker, it’s amazing and so entertaining to listen to him speak.

@2004cyrus

2 ай бұрын

And there are inaccuracies in this review

For $42k neither one. For $39k I'll take the Mazda.

@2004cyrus

2 ай бұрын

What’s the distinction? Budget? I agree for me it’s budget. I don’t want to spend more than $39,500

I drive a Forester XLT Haven't found anything I'd trade it for yet. But I love watching your shorts!

@roboticvenom1935

Жыл бұрын

Mazda CX-50 way better

@josenunez1190

Жыл бұрын

Love my Subaru Outback Limited!

Subaru, for the safety, and impenetrable frame.

Man tbh I really don’t care about cars but I absolutely love watching these reviews haha, good job man

Styling hands down the mazada. But the subaru is more of a capable wagon when the bad weather is around or u choose too play in the dirt

Not bad I would chose the Mazda

Subaru still. Get the Outback touring XT, pure luxury&got the Boxer turbo, get the wilderness, has the boxer turbo&is even more off-road ready. Outback has so many trims with&without the turbo. I’m also more inclined towards Subaru AWD over Mazda, Subaru has perfected AWD into something affordable for years, &reliability is great.

I have had some fantastic brand cars .range rover mercedes BMW's but my favourite car was my Mazda 6 sport was a stunning drive. Mazda a amazing cars

@2004cyrus

2 ай бұрын

Same here I agree

Mazda just broke the myth that premium gas doesn't make ur car go faster

@timgibney5590

Жыл бұрын

Mazda uses high compression engines. THe non turbo offers just 3 to 5% improvement with premium. The premium is for the turbo editions

I absolutely love your content!!! 💯 ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

My sister was considering buying one until we saw it in person and sat in it. The roofline is much lower than the cx5 and the headroom is affected by that. It’s decent for one or two people, but definitely not a small family

@roboticvenom1935

Жыл бұрын

Wdym? How tall is your sister 6 feet? This is funn

@estevanrodriguez9663

Жыл бұрын

@@roboticvenom1935 she’s about 5’5” maybe but I’m taller. I’m 5’11” and we both said the same thing about how low it sits compared to the cx5

Bought a '23 Subaru Ascent Limited with all these same great Featires for the same Price but get a third row to haul around our son & his teamates. Cars/SUV's are Subjective, why makes all of us indiviually Special & why we have so many great Choices! Nothing bad about CX-50 but feeling good about getting best Bang for MY Buck...just saying...

You make every car sound really good even though it’s not

@2004cyrus

2 ай бұрын

Lmao yes. This car is a winner tho

I'd take the Mazda even though I believe it has an outdated 6speed transmission over that CVT found in the Subaru.

@roboticvenom1935

Жыл бұрын

Same, CX50 >

@thothkemet-lv8wq

11 ай бұрын

Better outdated and reliable than up to date and unreliable

@2004cyrus

2 ай бұрын

The 6 speed works great and is proven reliable. Mazda has built a new 8 speed in house that is the CX-90. It still needs to be ironed out.

I just paid off my 2021 Mazda CX-5 and buying this CX-50 this week for 0% for 60 months. I like this guy but there are several inaccuracies in this video as I’ve been researching the specs for several weeks.

Outback xt>Mazda cx50 for driving experience. Test drove both this past week, XT felt so damn smooth. If I didn't get a warranty I'd probably take the Mazda tho lol

Someone I know drove one and the roof rails rattled a lot and there was not a lot of headroom as well as it had a very rough ride. Not worth the price tag

@2004cyrus

2 ай бұрын

The dealer sends them out with over inflated tires. I bought one and it rode rough. Fixed it when I release to 34 psi. The rough rails made wind noise so I removed them. Sometimes the minor adjustments fix it all.

@2004cyrus

2 ай бұрын

Oh I’m 6’3” and lower the seat and have plenty of room. My tall friends never complain.

Yo can you do the KIA Forte GT2? My brother just got one and it’s super cool!

@roboticvenom1935

Жыл бұрын

The value for money of the Kia forte is unbeatable!!

definitely the Mazda I think they just look unique every Subaru looks the same

@waynejackson299

Жыл бұрын

all Subaru outback looks the same

I love my Mazda cx-50 turbo premium plus

Mazda all day

Hyundai Santa Fe Hip “am i a joke to you?”

@angelositoe6067

Жыл бұрын

Bmw X6 hip: "are you kidding me?"

@seppesents224

Жыл бұрын

Bentley Bentayga: "are you taking the piss with me?"

Just got my first mazda. So far, so good.

Forrest, you give the best quick reviews!👍

Subaru, any day.

@user-mx9km6bz6e

8 ай бұрын

Definitely

Me personally i'd pick the Subaru because you dont see them often.. As far as looks, mazda takes it though.

@Chiinkayy

Жыл бұрын

wth, those outbacks are everywhere

@1jsremy

Жыл бұрын

*personally* where i live we don’t see them everywhere.

@roboticvenom1935

Жыл бұрын

@@1jsremy there are less mazda CX50's then Subaru outback where you live silly, I can guarantee.

@1jsremy

Жыл бұрын

@@roboticvenom1935 you mad confident when you dont have a clue who i am or where i live, thats funny 😂

@robertknight4672

Жыл бұрын

You should visit Massachusetts. I see Subarus everyday.

I wish they sold this in the UK. I see it when I travel to the US and love it.

Loving the range of cars reviewed now!

Mazda is more on the level of Lexus and Acura, and since I’m all about brand image.. yea I’ll take a Mazda over a Subaru😂 I just feel like there’s not much to compare

Mazda CX-50 for sure!

If you prefer Japanese reliability on the assembly, be wary as the CX-50 is built in USA as opposed to the CX-5, which is largely assembled in Japan. Check the label when you open the door to be sure.

Subaru is way better. Roof rails, more space and better towing capacity. Only thing missing in the Subaru is heads up display. Other than that you get much more in the Subaru Outback than you do in Mazda.

Had a Mazda 6 as our first car, loved it, even though it was the base Sport model it felt very upscale and the NA engine was plenty powerful. Got a CX-5 when that 6 got totaled and don't regret it a bit. Mazdas punch way above their price and they have been very reliable vehicles.

In Canada. Mazda is killing. CX5 are everywhere. As a 2019 GS with Comfort Package owner. They are miles ahead in interior Vs Rav4 and CRV. Plus handling is love. I can only imagine CX50 is a ls good as CX5. The only downside is these are made in murica. Hence quality cannot be compared to CX5s.

Bro your videos really are helping me while car shopping

bro i was waiting so long for the cx-50 to drop on ur channel

Mazda would destroy Subaru if they offered an actual cheaper more utilitarian/off-road version without the leather and bells and whistles, especially if they put the turbo engine in it and better shocks. Mazda is the "identity crisis" brand when it comes to this, but I'd still buy it over a Subaru any day of the year. Waaaay too many issues with Subarus and it seems every 5 years or so they claim they "fixed" the issues, whilst still having a high resale value? A base model CX-30 can be had for 23k with now standard AWD and standard 190hp whereas the Subaru forces you to move up in full trim with less horsepower (186) to the 2.5l and I haven't found one with the same mileage that didn't cost well over 30k. That's not even including the wilderness version which is roughly $45-46k. Subaru has lost their minds.