"Maybe someday he'll have another shot at greatness, I mean, it was a really bad day, but who knows, it could still turn out ok. They'd have to go into hiding for a while, but....holy sh*t, is that the archduke?" Killed me

@AegixDrakan

7 жыл бұрын

It killed the archduke too. :o

@davidfellingham3710

6 жыл бұрын

I know theirs a lot of "it's" but world tensions were rising all ready, everyone knew their was going to be a World War. It was the perfect storm. Even if Archduke Ferdinand survived that day, Austria-Hungary and Germany were pretty much asking for a war, and countries like Russia, France, and British wouldn't mind one either because they still had the "glorious" Napoleonic wars of "heroic" charges and this and that. I thing WWI would just start another way, maybe it would be later in 1915 or something. A good way to prove my point is that after the assasination, Austria-Hungary blamed the death on the Serbian Government and sent that ultimatum which was pretty much asking Serbia to reject it. World tensions were to night for their not to be a war just because Ferdinand survived the faithful day.

@zozidedodo780

6 жыл бұрын

Pogba BOOM Maybe but I like to disagree not every tensiuned situation turns into war for example US and the USSR were in a brink of an all out war but it didn't happen maybe if the assassination didn't take place there would be no all out war just tensions and minor battles

@kevashi4884

5 жыл бұрын

That Driver Must Be Shit

@dkupke

5 жыл бұрын

Worst part is that the arch duke actually wanted to give greater rights to the Slavs. He felt the only way to prevent Slavic separatism was to promote equality between the Austrian Empire’s various peoples.

If this was a movie I would accuse the writers of using one to many plot conveniences.

@connormclernon26

8 жыл бұрын

And yet, it happened.

@andmos1001

7 жыл бұрын

Correction, it is a tragedy wich the world have never seen

@Shamshiro

6 жыл бұрын

Reality is stranger than fiction, after all.

@dkupke

5 жыл бұрын

Connor McLernon Worth pointing out: the lack of guard was actually the Arch Dukes own decision. He wanted to show his goodwill to the Slavic populace of Sarajevo by showing how much he trusted them, so there were to be few police and guards present.

@silvertheelf

5 жыл бұрын

😂

“He repeats the phrase, each time a little weaker. And neither of them live through the hour.” That line gave me chills. What an incredible delivery to such a sad moment in history

@Panceak

7 ай бұрын

Poor Archduke. Just trying to do good

"and fired two shots that changed the world" literal chills

@erikeriks

4 жыл бұрын

How

@Storming360

4 жыл бұрын

@@erikeriks started ww1 which in turn caused the ww2 and cold war. Not to mention the israel-philistine conflict, terror in middle east and communist movement after rise of Soviets are these two bullets fault.

@somerandomguy2447

4 жыл бұрын

6:43

@smaguy64

4 жыл бұрын

The Sandwich that changes everything

@Royal-sd8eh

3 жыл бұрын

He killed 17 million people with two shots Im calling hacks

I think one of the most ironic things in world history is this: After the war had begun, Gavrilo Princip would protest the war from behind bars until he eventually died in prison. The man who was the immediate cause of the war was protesting the war.

@Usammityduzntafraidofanythin

8 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I imagine he was pretty embarassed and thought there'd be backsies.

@ionlymadethistoleavecoment1723

7 жыл бұрын

James A Clouder he hadn't anticipated war. He thought only about perceived oppression. It's like if the Boston tea Party had kicked off a war among all the empires of the time. It would be unanticipated.

@imperatorcaesardivifiliusa2158

7 жыл бұрын

Ionlymadethistoleavecoments The Boston tea party made the British Empire a wee bit poorer, Garvilo Princip killed the heir to the throne of one of the strongest empires of the time.

@ionlymadethistoleavecoment1723

7 жыл бұрын

Imperator Caesar Divi Filius Augustus you're missing the point. both were all for revolution, "we should govern ourselves". It was an unintended consequence.

@imperatorcaesardivifiliusa2158

7 жыл бұрын

Ionlymadethistoleavecoments One is of a different magnitude than the other though, there is reason to go to war for the assassination of the heir of a nation, but pouring tea into a sea is not.

I'll admit, I teared up when Franz asked Sophie, "Don't die, live for our children." You really took me there with the narration. I especially liked the part with the young Serb just eating his sandwich.

@mediocremaiden8883

Жыл бұрын

Yeah me too. 😢 I could've swam home shedding as many tears as I did. The women at Court were told to completely ignore Duchess Sophie

"One felt pity for his wife sitting in the car." A small reminder that these men were human at the end of the day.

@JAKphoenixify

3 жыл бұрын

@Brownskikuca Completely agree.

@dragonstouch1042

3 жыл бұрын

Barely even men, they were boys

@GarlicPudding

3 жыл бұрын

Even the two who wimped out are this. In those circumstances, I'd chicken out too.

It's just like they say: "The road to hell is paved with edgy 19 year olds eager to die for a cause that has no use for their contribution".

@m.syauqiabdurahman2798

4 жыл бұрын

And lead into million of people died .

@dantecaputo2629

3 жыл бұрын

Ben Pearson The court house scene ended a while ago.

Franz's last words gave me a tear.

@Gojiragon

8 жыл бұрын

It's worse when you realize his wife was pregnant.

@alyasgrey9370

8 жыл бұрын

One of the worst parts of it is that Franz *really* was sympathetic to the same kind of people who killed him.

@winterwarwolf117

8 жыл бұрын

Yeah well, it did start WW1, a war that killed millions of innocent people, so really, would it be wise to do it again?

@nicolasleblanc1461

8 жыл бұрын

WinterWarWolf Don't take the bait. I don't want a flame war in my comment thread.

@zikicajovanovic8736

8 жыл бұрын

Nicolas Leblanc go cry to your mommy friend, we would and will do it again. We will start with the USA. Support for our Muslim brothers wagging war against capitalistic oppressors!

In 2013, while on a Study Abroad program in Vienna, I had the immense pleasure of visiting the Austrian Military Museum. Among its wondrous exhibits was a room tucked away on a corner of the first floor in which was displayed the very Graf und Stift touring car in which Archduke Franz Ferdinand was assassinated, and the very ottoman sofa on which he died, and very uniform he wore, still stained with his blood. Also included were a selection of what I believe were the weapons collected from the other assassins after they were caught and several photographs taken of his visit to Sarajevo, including one taken just 5 minutes before his death. I must admit, and I am not joking or exaggerating, this exhibit left me physically stunned. I asked a museum employee if it really was the same car, and he confirmed that it was, and that it had been on public display in the museum since December of 1914, having been moved only once, in the 1950's, during a remodel. For those inclined to travel in search of history, I cannot recommend the Austrian Military Museum or the magnificent city of Vienna highly enough.

@crosbychang

5 жыл бұрын

Place must be crowded with tourists? I was in Vienna for a few days, but didn't know about it. I do know that the bullet which killed the archduke is preserved in a museum in Sarajevo.

@Lilly94Z

5 жыл бұрын

@@crosbychang it's one of the less crowded museums actually, since it's not in the center of vienna. it's a really cool museum, but also eerie with the above mentioned stuff (you can see the bullet holes in the car as well) and lots of wwI/II things

@shriramvenu

4 жыл бұрын

Vienna is truly a lovely city.

@liamweaver2944

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much man. If COVID doesn’t screw things up, my family and I are gonna try to go to Austria and southern Germany over Christmas, and we will be in Vienna, so thanks again for the suggestion.

@celicaas95

2 жыл бұрын

the car license plate is. A 11 18. Which can be read as. Armistice 11/18.

* Went to a parade * He ate a donut * He had fun These no one dies AUs always coil around my heart. Also, a small applause for the would-be assassin that had a change of heart when he saw Sophie in the car. I mean, in the end of the day it still didn't save her but at least that guy managed to be the better person that day.

@agentc7020

5 жыл бұрын

yeah, AUs are the way to heal your damaged heart from real life or canons :'v

@nathanseper8738

4 жыл бұрын

They reflect our dreams of what SHOULD be not...what is.

@Ivan-wb4id

4 жыл бұрын

Gavrilo said that he didnt want to kill her either. He missed the shot.

@Neoplasie1900

4 жыл бұрын

@@Ivan-wb4id He still shot though..

@legendarytat8278

3 жыл бұрын

At least he was said to regret his decision from behind the bars and protested against the war.

"Sophie, don't die, live for our children." Gets me every time.

"Holy f*ck is that the archduke!" Best line ever.

@randommindz6782

9 жыл бұрын

tomas teel 6:21

@firefox3249

8 жыл бұрын

+tomas teel Pretty sure he said "sh*t"...

@thanksforthe57subs66

8 жыл бұрын

The worst thing is.. He didn't even finish his sandwitch...

@atticusyoungs6

7 жыл бұрын

yeess

@harrisonissac8810

7 жыл бұрын

tomas teel right

"Join us next time and find out how the world responds to this event". Spoiler alert: They go to war.

@Viehdieb

10 жыл бұрын

goddammit you ruined it.

@AnimusPrime87

10 жыл бұрын

4An0n Heyheyheyheyhey HEY!... I did say "Spoiler alert".

@fy8798

10 жыл бұрын

You monster.

@swimmer11111117

10 жыл бұрын

True you did, but you forgot the part where the entire world, especially Austria, just dicks around for a month. War didn't start until July because the Austrians waited on sending demands to Serbia because they didn't know what to send. Hilariously, the Serbian government had nothing to do with this assassination and were ok with all the terms sent to them but one, and it is that refusal of the one that sends the dominoes flying. I don't recall the demand but I'll look into it

@AnimusPrime87

10 жыл бұрын

Fen Y I've been called many things.... But that one hurt.

6:18 "Holy sh*t is that the archduke?!" Best quote ever

@NerrawGnap

6 күн бұрын

I personally wouldn’t be surprised if that was *exactly* what went through Princip’s head in that moment.

There are a million reasons why I love this show, but among the top are how beautifully you describe events. It's poetic, and personal, and never light on context. "Angry in only the way young men can be" "High school assassins" The most universally consequential war in modern history was started by an underdeveloped prefrontal cortex.

@malaakalabri978

4 жыл бұрын

The way only young men can be*

"Sophie, don't die; live for our children" Who put all of these onions in my room? ;^;

@araknidude

7 жыл бұрын

Probably the secret onion ninja clan. I have this problem in my house. Stupid things are more undetectable than radon.

@stevenchoza6391

7 жыл бұрын

araknidude ...or Walpole... it was Walpole, wasn't it?

@tommykarrick9130

7 жыл бұрын

WHO THE _FUCK_ IS CUTTING ALL THESE _GOD DAMN _*_ONIONS_*

@Elizabeththegreatest

6 жыл бұрын

So sad!

@kiddo6393

6 жыл бұрын

Wesley Foxx the only better ending would be : It's nothing. It's nothing. It's nothing. It's nothi...

My heart started to sink at 6:45. Franz Ferdinand was not his uncle, he didn't deserve the death that he got. He was much more moderate than his uncle. Most of all he wanted to be happy with his wife and his soon to be child. Such a tragedy....

@GiordanDiodato

2 жыл бұрын

he was racist towards Serbians, but he wasn't for oppressing them. He wanted them to stop "tainting" the empire, so he was all for Serbian independence.

@d4s0n282

Жыл бұрын

@@GiordanDiodato to be completely fair, that was super normal for this time

so franz was actualy a nice heir, who brave enough to marry a low born because he love her, care for his subjects, and a good nature person, surely he would be a good emperor on throne, he just happened in wrong time and wrong place, this episode make me sad, heightened by the music sounds very nostalgic

@zivusmutavi3907

3 жыл бұрын

Although in his lifetime he killed like 300 000 animals just for entertainment.

@kevinsullivan3448

3 жыл бұрын

@@zivusmutavi3907 So did everyone else.

@zivusmutavi3907

3 жыл бұрын

@@kevinsullivan3448 lol

@noahz3429

3 жыл бұрын

well Edward 8 of England gave up the throne to be with an actress

@bobmcbob9856

3 жыл бұрын

Well he wasn’t the worst I suppose. Austrian rule in general sucked but Franz was decent

The driver is a solid Number 3 on Top 10 "You had one job" moments

@m.syauqiabdurahman2798

4 жыл бұрын

@@rahulkarade4878 if he go to other way , arch duke and sophie can still be alive and probably no World War 1 But It's Fate.

@sharilshahed6106

4 жыл бұрын

would like to know whats no 2 and 1 are.

@NerrawGnap

6 күн бұрын

@@sharilshahed6106 as would I.

How is it possible to feel bad for both the duke and the assassin?

@LynceusGlaciermaw

9 жыл бұрын

CartoonAntics Because no one won here. That's what a tragedy is. It's just a sad circumstance that we all wish had never happened. But it's important we remember to keep such things from happening again.

@markuskekero8363

8 жыл бұрын

Misunderstanding between the two

@Schinshikss

8 жыл бұрын

+CartoonAntics And that's exactly the reason why many scholars and social activists were already preaching internationalism against nationalism well in the 1870s.

@elegantcat1496

8 жыл бұрын

+CartoonAntics Well, hey, that's history for you. An exercise in reasoning and logic to see behind movements, ideals and arbitrary moral systems. In a way, we're all just men.

@samuelkalzer3687

8 жыл бұрын

+Schinshikss fuck internationalism

And thus WW1 starts with an assassination scheme littered with a series of coincidences that are so convoluted that if it were a plot in a movie you'd think it's contrived and call the writer a hack while walking out of the theatre. It'd be funny if it wasn't so tragic.

@sompret

10 жыл бұрын

I get the feeling it'd be Americans who'd protest like that. I can see this being made in Europe, shown to European audiences, who, from what I understand, aren't as allergic to the kind of plot that Europeans would put in their films.

@gingervampireFTW

10 жыл бұрын

It is somewhat amusing that the one of the bloodiest wars in history was started by the coincidence to end all coincidences. Seriously, it's as if the universe itself wanted the archduke dead.

@simoncroft73

10 жыл бұрын

Have you seen some of Guy Ritchie's films? Lock Stock & Two Smoking Barrels, The Snatch and Rock'n'Rolla are essentially films just how this assassination plays out.

@Azmodeus87

10 жыл бұрын

That sums up alot of WW1, tbh. The trenchwarfare, the misscommunications, everyones fumbling with trying to use new weapons in old ways. It's all pretty comical if you get past all the lives lost and the missery of the tropes on either side.

@ANDELE3025

10 жыл бұрын

It is actually funny. WW2 is way more tragic, hell a lot of wars for independence were WAY more tragic (tho some way funnier).

When you realize one wrong turn cost millions of lives

@GiordanDiodato

4 жыл бұрын

hundreds of millions.

@jaredjosephsongheng372

Жыл бұрын

What did we learn? Get Better Austrian Drivers. And make sure Austrian Painters graduate instead of becoming politicians

"Holy s*it is that the Archduke?" i laughed knowing full damn well what happens next but i laughed anyway-

There is something incredibly beautiful about, Franz Ferdinand's last words.

@dragontamer1012

6 жыл бұрын

He says it's nothing, but yet, that injury was everything. That injury was the catalyst that resulted in the world we have today. "It's nothing" but is it really?

@DiegoPerez-vp1nv

6 жыл бұрын

Bojan Janković found the serbian

@StandXGamma

6 жыл бұрын

Diego Perez@ or he could just be a stupid troll.

@ziggymoondust2281

5 жыл бұрын

Found Franz's assassin.

@gunbunmonkey

5 жыл бұрын

Ahhh why you got me crying with that ending!!

This is why I like EH. No textbook could ever get me to understand the gravity of this war. Narrative being too dramatic be damned. Sometimes you need that extra bit of drama to fully understand the impact this war had made on the world.

@andreashykade2352

6 жыл бұрын

Yes, but this episode gave so much wrong information about European modern history as if it was written by a low grade Nepalese student without any interest in history who once read a Wikipedia article about WW1 while high.

@McJethroPovTee

5 жыл бұрын

@@andreashykade2352 yeah but they make LIES episodes to inform on what they did wrong, what they missed and additional references and info.

@andreashykade2352

5 жыл бұрын

@@McJethroPovTee Never did any refutation (such as EH's lies episodes) achieve anything. Damage is already done. Mistakes in this video are so huge that is seems they were more interested in making a cute cartoon than teaching historical facts.

7:04 that's so sad. Rip Sophie and fraz duke

"But he- WAIT HOLY SH*T IS THAT THE ARCHDUKE?" Had me in stitches! Loved it.

"A sandwich that changed history" how poetic

@cruznunez9981

8 жыл бұрын

the sandwich tale was false. sandwiches were new at the time, and would not have been sold at a roadside cafe.

@johnbrownsbody3272

8 жыл бұрын

Does that really matter? They most likely know this, and put it in just to make things more Dramatic/Funny

@gamebawesome

7 жыл бұрын

Cruz Nunez, no sandwiches were invented in the 18th century in Britain, they would had sandwiches in the 20th century by then

@leeroberts4850

4 жыл бұрын

If that sandwich shop is still there id put "buy a sandwich and change the world " in the tagline of a sign

@michalofat2019

4 жыл бұрын

Heavy from tf2 starts ww1

Actually it was called Young Bosnia not Young Serbia, they were pan-slavic organisation bent on uniting all slavic peoples into one state.

@foxdagamer1061

8 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU! FINNALY SOMEBODY EDUCATED

@wallacekids8543

8 жыл бұрын

Technically, it did work. For a while.

@DaxRaider

6 жыл бұрын

@fox its a minor mistake what the fuck that has to do with "educated" ....

@DimShamrock

6 жыл бұрын

It is not a minor mistake.Trust me.Serbia and Bosnia are two entirely different places and nations.

@lejl8710

6 жыл бұрын

No

This made me surprisingly emotional. I've heard this story so many times but I've never given more than a passing thought to the actual deaths of Franz and Sophie. Thanks for reminding me that they were human.

6:35 I know it's already happened. I know that, but I couldn't help but get nervous and think to myself "Don't do it. Please, for the love of all mankind don't"

Goddammit car driver, YOU HAD ONE JOB

@kaptenhiu5623

8 жыл бұрын

+BIGBenfica9 He started the whole war 1 and 2 and cold war by losing on his way to hospital that day! Burn him!! LOL

@AzureFides

8 жыл бұрын

+Denny Hiu I blame those boys. Hot shot idiots want to play a hero without really think about consequences and causes. Sadly it's still the same thing till this day.

@kaptenhiu5623

8 жыл бұрын

well.. that's a lot harder u know.. They are young, unemployed, depressed, and angry at Austrians, and there are no way they would know the consequences of their action back then. just like voting for Trump, there is no way we'll know what the future holds... But this damn driver, if he just asked locals for a route to hospital before or if he didn't turn his car back in that street ... the whole 20th century will change

@StephanePare

6 жыл бұрын

No, europe was a powder keg ready to explode. Gavrilo was not the cause, he was the trigger. If not him, it would have been some other minor incident somewhere else that starts the war. Some other trigger might have given us a slightly different WW1, but it was going to happen regardless.

@Nugcon

5 жыл бұрын

now he has no job.

Your characterization of Franz Ferdinand's death was so poignant it made me cry a little. Bravo.

What is this narrarator of Extra History doing these days? He's amazing.

@owenharklerode7617

3 ай бұрын

He has a let's play channel called Play Frame, and a game animation channel named New Frame Plus

The writing is excellent. It does something very few scripts can do, make you genuinely sympathetic for both sides...

Clearly this was all orchestrated by the sandwich.

@DefectiveConsole

10 жыл бұрын

You are a loose cannon sandvich!

@BiscutTheGreat

6 жыл бұрын

Dear god… you might be on to something

@srbearshark6628

6 жыл бұрын

Walpole made the sandwich.

@thefakecorvus7842

6 жыл бұрын

or the Toaster

@ody131313

6 жыл бұрын

You mean sandvich*

I can't believe I'm saying this but... Sitting here, in my pajamas, watching this while contemplating playing XCOM, eating a bowl of mac n cheese, I shed tears. I don't know how you did it, but somehow, in some way, you made me feel for everyone involved in this event. Before now, learning about the great war, I had never felt a human side to it. It's just a piece of history I thought. But tonight, for the first time, I saw it in a much more human light. From a perspective not of historical figures, but from the perspective of a person. Like any other I have met. I know this was a very mushy comment but this moved me to tears and I think that warrants a comment, no matter what the reaction may be. Thank you, Extra Credits.

@acebalistic1358

6 жыл бұрын

amen.

@schwa6275

4 жыл бұрын

DEEP bro. YOU almost had ME crying.

@le_me5410

4 жыл бұрын

"1 death is a tragedy, 1000 deaths is a statistic" no where is that quote more powerful than in the story of WWI.

You know, I don’t know what it is about the song, or at least the version of the song, “In Flanders Fields” that makes me well up with tears every time I hear it. Maybe it’s the fact this all could’ve been avoided, and everyone of the 10 million young men, civilians and more that were slaughtered didn’t have to die. Maybe the fact they all could’ve lived to see happier days but didn’t is what punches me in the feels. Great video guys, keep up the great work

6:19 I love these things someone going home thinking they failed their mission having a snack feeling a bit better thinking they get another shot at it, then turn and like 😲 oh crap my chance is here. 😁😅

One of the real tragic ironies is the Archduke favored peaceful resolution of tensions, and was also interested in federalizing Austria to resolve its nationalism issues. It'd be nice if the Emperor thought in terms of honoring his memory, but it seemed he was more keen on using it as an excuse to try things his way.

@AEIOU05

6 жыл бұрын

Emperor Franz Josef was one who wanted unity for his people that's why his motto was "Viribus Unitis" (With combined powers) he thought by having a centralised state he would create a nation in wich the people lived in harmony and unity.

@user-vo8zx1db6m

6 жыл бұрын

It was a completely moronic more for those Slavs to have killed him, he was the most pro-Slav Archduke they'd had in years, who actually might've helped them, but they just kill him.

@dkupke

5 жыл бұрын

Wild Bore they didn’t want him to succeed. What they wanted was for Bosnia and Herzegovina to break away from Austria and then unite with Serbia and Montenegro to create a Slavic Kingdom. Period. Not greater rights in Austria-a Slavic Kingdom. They were very worried that if the arch duke succeeded in promoting equality it would wreck their hopes a Slavic Kingdom.

@fieldy409

5 жыл бұрын

@@user-vo8zx1db6m Young people are too stupid and angry for good politics I think.

@parkchimmin7913

5 жыл бұрын

fieldy409 Young people are more easy to brainwash too

"Even the smallest person can change the course of the future." And that saying played out to the nth degree here . . . for better or worse.

@Lebdjev

6 жыл бұрын

No europa want this war and this event was only a false argument to declare it.

@dkupke

5 жыл бұрын

That is why we must strive to follow the words of the Great Ones: “Be excellent to each other!”

@bobjoe109

5 жыл бұрын

Reminds me of the "For Want of a Nail" proverb

@roguishpaladin

4 жыл бұрын

@@Lebdjev Never be the person who is convinced that a war had to happen. This generally means that you are the reason why the war began.

7:11 TIS BUT A FLESH WOUND

I think this series has some of the best writing in all of extra history. Good writing, James!

Holy crap, that ending was sad

@bradymenting5120

5 жыл бұрын

just wait till you see how the sequel ends

You have to admit, ferdinand may have never had his stuff fully together, but its commendable he at least wanted to visit the people hurt in the hospital.

6:20-yup...something’s were just meant to be, history will always be what it must.

6:17 - 6:20 "They'd have to go into hiding for a while but-HOLY SH* IS THAT THE ARCHDUKE!?" I was drinking ,but when he said "HOLY SH*"i spitted it out all xD i was drinking fanta.it was a bad felling.

I lost it with laughter when I heard HOLY SHIT IS THAT THE ARCHDUKE??

@McJethroPovTee

5 жыл бұрын

A few moments later: "Sophie, don't die. Live for our children" "It's nothing..."

Great video, emotionally resonant even. Leaves me with a curious thought, though. So many grand scale films about WW2 and most major wars since then involving the US (the Korean War being an overlooked period in film, as well) and yet so little about not only WW1, but the fantastical and Shakespearean circumstances leading up to it. A war that crumbled empires, led to the massive overhaul of the globe resulting in WW2 and the age thereafter, and even less obvious things like inspiring modern day media like The Lord of the Rings. So much is owed to the tragic atrocities and acts of valor associated with this war and yet Spielberg and other top tier auteurs (sans War Horse and Atonement) have tackled this topic on a grand dramatic scale. It's just curious...

@LeHappiste

8 жыл бұрын

The US were almost irrelevant in WW1 That's why Americans are so obsessed with WW2 (in which they played a somewhat important role) but don't care about WW1

@edwardhardwick2180

8 жыл бұрын

+Champion Bescos There are quite few pieces of media that deal with WW1, they just not always as well known as the WW2 stuff. There's Blackadder Goes Forth for instance, which neatly captures the absurd tragicomic nature of the whole war. And just fyi, Tolkien explicitly denied that Lord of the Rings was inspired by the First World War.

@thefeudalbarbarian5997

8 жыл бұрын

+Champion Bescos Schools don't want to tell kids that average people changed the course of history ( For the worst mostly ). It's something that politicians and sociopaths believe to be only their job.

@araknidude

7 жыл бұрын

*obligatory hate-worthy battlefield 1 comment goes here*

@metalk1tt3n

7 жыл бұрын

i genuinely felt grief for the archduke, poor man fatally wounded only cares about his wife and childrens as he lays dying. man that struck a heart-cord

It's just nuts how much this situation reads like fiction. It's hard to truly wrap my head around it.

That image of the two bullets flying is one of your most striking yet, I've watched this episode and even rewinding to just look at the image sends shivers down my spine

I find it weird that there's so much detail to the events that happened. How the hell is that knowledge collected and maintained without somebody prettying it up to colour either side as villainous or heroic? And looking past how accusing this sounds, how much artistic detail and dramatic touches are you adding to the history? How the hell is historical accuracy ever assured?

@neeneko

10 жыл бұрын

Well, for the most part, the events have been, as you say, prettyed up to colour one side or the other as villain or hero. However in the modern era we tend to have enough communication and enough primary sources that both narratives as well as more neutral ones survive for people to piece together again later.

@Firzenick

10 жыл бұрын

The purpose of this series is not to give a 100% accurate description of the events, that'll be left to the many other sources available. This series is here to give an idea of what happened in a manner that it also entertains. I do believe in this situation if you mistrust any statements, the team of Extra Credits would encourage you to go out and prove them wrong, because you'll have learnt something. Go out and get that tangential learning on.

@danielalonso3560

10 жыл бұрын

i was thinking the same thing. this does seem to be more detailed than the punic war one, because it's more recent though. the police probably kept records and stuff gathered from interrogation. but I agree, the information is very detailed, and it's impossible to know for sure if it's true without doing the research yourself. being skeptical is a healthy way to live :) just not being too skeptical to the point of paranoia :P

@CrotaroLP

10 жыл бұрын

Well, people like to remember things that are important to them. For the assassination at the sandwich store there were at the very least 2 surviving witnesses. The assassin and the driver. It's likely that there were other people watching, who just lived their day until someone was murdered in front of them. And they remember this. Of course they'll remember it from their point of view but if you collect as many statements as possible and sort them all out you'll eventually get to what is most possibly the truth.

@Russlem

10 жыл бұрын

Nazareadain All of the countries involved were literate countries. This means they all have their own historians documenting the events that occurred. The way history is documented today is a historian will typically compile sources from both sides of an event from as many credible sources as possible and events with significant overlap are considered to have occurred. Minor details are often taken at face value because they come from sources that have no reason to lie, especially if those minor details are corroborated from other sources whether they be on the same side or not. So an example of a major fact that needs corroboration from other sources is the Archduke's car went down Franz Joseph Street where his assassin was waiting. Minor details that can be accepted is if the Austrian source says "the driver didn't know the area and took a wrong turn" and the Bosnian source says "the assassin was there because he was eating after the first failed attempt." These are considered minor details that paint the event in a more detailed light, but aren't absolutely vital to the major facts of history. The issue with the 2nd Punic War is that Rome obliterated Carthage. Historians don't do the same with that war because they *can't*. Rome wiped Carthage and all their works off the face of the earth, leaving only their historians to tell the story. That's why you get more detail with events like World War 1.

That is the most horrifyingly sad thing that I have ever heard.

4:03 Goodness. History is often the best comedy.

His final words were so heart wrenching, and then the music started playing and I lost it. I knew his assassination started the War, but I didn't know it was so emotional.

Hey everyone! James Portnow here. I write the series. At the end of each full topic I'm going to do a live on camera episode called "Lies" where we talk about all the lies we told you and the mistakes we made. Here at the beginning I'm not always getting to see the finalized versions before they go out, so there's bound to be some errors (I noticed a fair share of minor but non-negligible errors in this when I saw it this morning ; ). Also, if there's a story like the sandwich that probably isn't actually 100% accurate but has enough of the truth that I've heard it told by professors at major universities and makes for fantastic storytelling, I'm going to use it, but then talk about it in the "Lies" segment at the end. In the meantime, bear with us ; ) -JP

@christophedlauer1443

10 жыл бұрын

Excellent, gripping narrative James. I always read / heard that the train they arrived in Sarajevo got bombed - in the overall story, it makes little difference though.

@SubscriberTano

10 жыл бұрын

That is preposterous. By posting this video you taught over 18.000 people (and counting) a lie that completely undermines the importance of the killer, his motives and his determination. It really does not matter if you think that this story makes for "fantastic" story telling, because you are presenting this show as facts. Either you put a BIG disclaimer prior to the episodes saying that these depictions of history are embellished and fictionalized for the purpose of entertainment, or you should double and triple check your facts before posting them as historical facts. I don't even want to imagine the amount of people that are going to see this video but never check the comments, thinking that ww1 was started by pure coincidence, or even worse by a sandwich. As a channel with over 30.000 subscribers you have a responsibility toward your viewers and this attitude of "it's ok because it's entertaining" is frankly disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself. *Because some people prefer to comment crap instead of doing the research themselves: Read this: www.smithsonianmag.com/history/gavrilo-princips-sandwich-79480741/ There are transcripts of the trial which factually prove that no sandwich was had and that Princip positioned himself there deliberately (from "Sarajevski atentat: stenogram glavne rasprave protiv Gavrila Principa i drugova, odrzane u Sarajevu 1914" by Vojislav Bogicevic - 1954). It is also known where the sandwich lie comes from, which is from a sci-fi novel called "Twelve Fingers" by Jô Soares from 2001. In it he mentions how the character travels back in time and meets Princip as he is eating a sandwich right before the assassination. Then in 2003 the BBC aired a documentary series by Lion TV called "Days that Shook the World", which falsely mistook the sci-fi novel as a source of information and so showed the Princip eating a sandwich story. This documentary has since been aired all over the world and was the main culprit in the spreading of this lie.

@christophedlauer1443

10 жыл бұрын

SubscriberTano Uhm.... you might want to dial your aggression down a bit. First off - This is a youtube series, not a class. It is designed to entertain AND make history appealing to people, not teach you a comprehensive course. Second - This video is about the assassination intself, which precise circumstances didn't even matter THAT much in the grand picture (as WW1 would have happened anyway, just for some other bizarre reason). I can verify these facts from other sources: There was a bombing attempt on the same day trying to kill the archduke and his wife. They got into their car for some reason or other afterwards from city hall. They got shot by a young man called Gavrillo Princip after their driver reversed. Princip was associated with a group called "the black hand" or at least claimed to be. Did Princip really eat a sandwich while waiting for his chance ? In all honesty - who cares if he didn't ? Would history have been changed if the other assassin didn't dive into a dry river or swallow a bad pill ? Nope. Very definitly not. If you base your knowledge soley on *one* source, no matter if its a single book or a youtube series - you run the risk of beeing misinformed, or worse, mislead. The aim of this series is simple: To get your collective noses into books and find more information about the subject - if only to nitpick with people like me in the comments.

@happydan20

10 жыл бұрын

SubscriberTano You went through all that scathing trouble without pointing out any mistakes, priorities.

@aislingbones1854

10 жыл бұрын

***** It's a shame you had that problem. I was taught physics in the way you're suggesting and it's what got me into physics. Honestly, how many twelve year olds will be interested in hardcore mathematics? I didn't even like maths when I first started getting interested in physics, then later on I realised how much fun it was.

"Holy shit, is that the arch-duke" 0.0 God I love that part XD

I showed this channel to some friends of mine who are teachers, they loved it and said that this was a good way to teach their students about history, and were really interested in using these videos in class.

Can I just say this outro music is just way too perfect and hits that emotional note just right Never thought I'd tear up a bit listening to a history video. But damn, that somber sad little piano really just carries that melancholy of that was to come. The loss, the mistakes, the most profound war in probably all of human history with it's impacts felt very strongly in our current world

@Fancypants117

6 жыл бұрын

And the saddest part is how much this whole war got brushed under the rug. I use to study TONS of WW2 history as a kid, eat up anything about it. But I couldn't ever find anything that would go in depth about ww1, everything just glanced over it to talk about ww2 instead. Mandatory history class in highschool just put a single chapter about it, maybe 1 test. It's just so forgotten and brushed under the rug here in the US it makes the whole war even more tragic

Guys, on one hand you provide so much details about the events on that day, and on the other you completely mess up historical facts. Serbia was an independent country from 1878, after being liberated from Ottoman rule. Yes Gavrilo was Serbian nationalist, but country that he was fighting to get independence was Bosnia (Serbs were also ethical majority there), and the organization that he was part of was called Young Bosnia ("Mlada Bosna"), certainly not Young Serbia. So most certainly there were no Serbian flags on the parade as you portrayed it in the video, and Serbia as a country didn't have anything to do with this plot. Which is not the impression that I get from this video, quite the opposite. I hope you will correct these over the next episodes, especially in the next one, if it is going to mention how and why Austria declared war on Serbia which marked the beginning of the WWI.

@Flaris

10 жыл бұрын

I would tend to agree there. While I treat it as an entertaining attempt to get a reminder of this event out there, it's probably worth doing a bit more research to make sure that as many facts as possible are actually accurate. Little mistakes are alright along with interpreting how individuals were feeling since so much of that is impossible to know for certain. But bit more care to avoid getting fairly important facts wrong is probably a good idea.

@minch333

10 жыл бұрын

Just wikiing around what you said, it seems apparent that you're right about them being called Young Bosnia, but all I can find is that their motives were to liberate Austria's south slav provinces. Were these provinces specifically in Bosnia, or where there parts in Serbia and other countries as well?

@AntauriXX

10 жыл бұрын

Interestingly those very facts are mentioned in the first few paragraphs of princip's own wiki page :P. I love listening to this show immensely but EC might be getting a bit sloppy in it's execution. Still we should care most about the "cause and effect" of history not tidbits.

@LatinKaiser

10 жыл бұрын

minch333 Austria-Hungary had annexed Bosnia, which had been their protectorate, in 1908. The Black Hand and Young Bosnia felt that Bosnia should belong to Serbia because of cultural bonds.

@minch333

10 жыл бұрын

LatinKaiser Thank you!

"live for our kids" WHERE ARE THE TISSUES!?!?!?!?!?

@Jeannick19

9 жыл бұрын

Jacob Carter I know, if only people thought of that before killing someone.

@jacob_carter_is_batman

9 жыл бұрын

Jeannick19 I know right!

@jansenekovic3651

6 жыл бұрын

Jacob Carter so wait Was she pregnant or did she Just have kids at home

@BGeeTea

6 жыл бұрын

Both.

The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to somewhat make sense

Thank you for telling us about Ferdinand. Most of my courses treat him as a person shaped lever which immediately and irreversibly tipped the balance to war when he fell. They don't necessarily get into who he was, and how that played into things.

These are the most poetic, well-executed history lessons on youtube. The final note emphasizing perspective is so important.

i hope these episodes dont stop coming anytime soon. this is really well made.

Man, the way you deliver the scene of the wrong turn passing by the assassin at random makes the event sound like a scene from a Mr. Magoo episode.

People can't understand one thing. Such complex things must be viewed from several directions of time and opportunity in Bosnia. As a Bosnian Serb, whose ancestors lived here for thousands of years, I know the details of the genocidal acts of the Austro-Hungarians in Bosnia. Many of them ended up in Austro-Hungarian death camps. The assassination in Sarajevo was a drop in the ice,the whole tense situation in Europe. To understand its origins, they would have to live here in the Balkans at the time. When asked at the trial in the fall of 1914 why he killed the Austro-Hungarian heir to the throne, Gavrilo Princip answered: "The people suffer because they are completely orphans, because they consider them cattle ... I am a village son to take revenge and I am not sorry." is a turning point in what will happen. Princip's close friend Borivoje Jevtic told future historians that "when it comes to research and research of what is in us", the economic and political situation in Bosnia and Herzegovina must be understood. Just a few hundred kilometers from Vienna, where modern European culture flourishes, where Gustav Klimt and Sigmund Freud created, the Austro-Hungarian political elite in Bosnia and Herzegovina maintains a feudal serf system. The Bosnian serf, like his father Gavril Princip, paid taxes to the emperor, taxes to the spahis, and was forced to pay the Austro-Hungarian administration. Although this period of European history is known as the Belle Epoque, it was not like that for many. Despite the fact that Bosnia and Herzegovina, where Gavrilo Princip grew up, has ten times more gendarmerie stations than schools, Austria-Hungary presented its government and administration in Bosnia and Herzegovina as "civilization missions". Senior Viennese officials said they were bringing "European culture" and "European values" to areas previously cut off from civilization and culture. "The Austro-Hungarian monarchy is not a 'European missionary' in Bosnia and Herzegovina," but a conqueror and kidnapper. Young Bosnians were aware that the mission of civilization was a cover for undemocratic government. . The Habsburg monarchy boasted of the magnificent facades of the Sarajevo City Hall, but the Young Bosnians noticed that no one was talking about the hundreds of police stations behind the City Hall. The occupier came to "exploit and peel, not raise." The people of Young Bosnia wrote that the occupier also brought "an army of hungry and unscrupulous officials" to divide the state with his colonists, and "tear the locals apart". Borivoje Jevtić pointed out that the assassins came from the ranks of "humiliated and insulted". Chased from the doorstep like a dog, a foreigner in his country, the Young Bosnian felt "where it hurt, "Jevtic noted. The details of his stay in prison have not been confirmed with certainty until today, and they are known only on the basis of the testimonies of individual prisoners and the memories of the guards. The prisoners in Terezin mostly served their sentences in horrible living conditions. They fed them irregularly, constantly tortured them, and if someone got sick - they were left to die rather than be treated. All these "treatments" were many times worse for the "emperor killer". It was rumored that Gavrilo received food only every fifth day, and that he was tortured every day in particularly cruel ways. Allegedly, they put it in a wooden barrel in which a lot of nails had been driven in before, so they would roll it in it while driving nails into Gavrilo tortured body. And one more thing, Gavrilo Princip declared himself a Yugoslav (atheist), and Mlada Bosna was not a Serbian organization but a Yugoslav one that sought to unify all southern Slavs in any form. The members of Young Bosnia (many of whom participated in the assassination of Franz Ferdinand) were Serbs, Muslims and Croats.

holy shit was that the arch duke

El cheapo " die with style" lol

The way how you did Franz Ferdinand at 6:21 makes me think of the mascot of Pringles.

Hey team! The new Rajiv Joseph play 'Archduke' is all about the three hapless boys who get drawn into the plot to kill Franz Ferdinand, and it's in previews here in LA. Having seen this episode and learned something about the misadventures that befall the Black Hand during their fateful day took my level of enjoyment of the play above and beyond that of the usual ravenous theatre goer, and put me in a place where I felt like I was being let in on a big inside joke. Thanks to the whole team for creating such an effectively compelling narrative that it stuck with me for these past three years.

There is a major flaw from a historc point of view - Serbia was an independent country, and Bosnia, where all this takes place had a large Serbian population. Austria-Hungary annexed Bosnia from the Turks, and even though Serbia thought they were next on the list, the Young Bosnia (not Young Serbia) was a group of Bosnian Serbs. This is kinda important as the next series of events have a lot of back and forth diplomacy between Austro-Hungary and Serbia - and it wouldn't make sense if Serbia was part of the empire. Also, it's kind of a big deal if you're trying to dramatize the story because such a major blooper kills drama, othewise, by all means, I love the project.

wow, that ending was quite moving.

It really is Shakespearean with how quickly it goes from comedy to tragedy.

The imagery used in the background of the bullets being fired gave me chills.

Kind of amazing how one act of stupidity can create such a domino effect. An idiot killing two people ended up indirectly ending the lives of millions.

@Cokoladni

10 жыл бұрын

not realy,it was just for show,the war was still going to happen,theyd just find another reason for it...

@LesterRamos

10 жыл бұрын

Such is the nature of cause and effect. The problem is we never know exactly what our actions will result into.

@Flaris

10 жыл бұрын

Mrtvababa You have anything else in that crystal ball of yours? While the situation was one where something else could have set it off, that's no guarantee that it would have developed into one. Presuming things are inevitable is just a lazy way of avoiding thinking about the situation.

@blasterjosh

10 жыл бұрын

***** Yeah, tensions were very high in Euroupe, and Germany was looking for anything to start a fight. If it wasn't this, it would have been something else that caused the war

@MadnerKami

10 жыл бұрын

Mrtvababa Not necessarily. The World War I we know, is the result of many different causes, but this assassination was the game-over-point for a peaceful resolution in the Austrian-Empire versus Free Serbia conflict and from this exact moment on, everything spiraled out of control. Until this point happened, history could have taken any number of different courses. Some of which would have ended in a war similar to the Great One, others to other wars, others to no wars at all either resulting in the Status Quo living on till today or peaceful or even violent overthrow to the status quo and so on and on, but this is not the point. The point is, that this happened and it is the point-of-no-return, from where all the Domino pieces that were in place (the different causes mentioned earlier), fell over.

Thank you Extra Credits, this is definitely a valuable series you're running right now. This really helps you see a more intimate and humanizing view of things. I come out of this no longer considering the Archduke a fool for riding into the worst of places he could be , or thinking less of the Serbian assassins for instigating the unnecessary wrath of an Empire.

Beyond being the specific spark that set off the powerderkeg, with all of these coincidences, I can see why time travel plots like to use this assassination attempt. The duke passed multiple would-be assassins, the driver made one fateful turn, the day had enormous significance (with multiple possible explanations for why this day was chosen for the parade), the one who actually did the deed going to just the right place for a snack. History can truly be a strange creature.

1:50 Seems probable, since the Archduke wanted to convert the dual monarchy of Austria-Hungary into a three partners monarchy: Austria, Hungary and Yugoslavia, having the slavs with equal rights to the Austrians and Hungarians.

It's a truly incredible set of circumstances for an assassination. What's more is that the archduke was wearing a bulletproof vest but of all places Princip shot him in the neck.

These type of young and angry nationalists are still present to this day. Just go to the comment section of RT and you'll find them having a go at each other.

@Usammityduzntafraidofanythin

8 жыл бұрын

I don't get it. There's still nationalistic terrorism today and in relatively recent history.

@KendrixTermina

7 жыл бұрын

the average age of a terrorist volunteer is 17/18. Dults with jobs & family have too much to lose and a firmer identity that cant be as easily supplanted by brainwashing.

@EmporerAaron

5 жыл бұрын

I don't have to, I can look on the news in America and see young misguided youths or adults with misinformation and misguided treading a borderline of either madness or insanity.

@impervas5801

5 жыл бұрын

Just look at Ukraine.

@lukalackovic9059

5 жыл бұрын

It's not same when you're under someone else's rule (nation that despises your people and paints them as savages) and today when people are pretty much free,so to an extent nationalism is excused

I've heard this piece of history probably 50 different times but this is the first that really highlighted the simple personal tragedy that served as the catalyst. It was handled well, thank you for making me feel sorrow for the 2 lovers who's deaths were tragic and in who's names millions more died. I'm sure they would have wept to heard what followed, monstrous actions were justified from this

6:01 until the end. Damn you, Extra Credits, and your surprise feels trips!

The Emperor Franz Joseph wasn't the Archduke's father. I believe it was his uncle.

@AEIOU05

6 жыл бұрын

Yes, his only son Rudolf committed suicide and then Franz Ferdinand became heir to the throne

@graceskerp

4 жыл бұрын

Franz Ferd was the son of the Emperor's younger brother, Karl Ludwig. Karl became heir when Rudolf died. Karl died in 1898 and Franz Ferd got the hot seat.

If I didn't know better, I'd come from watching this video believing Serbia was under Austro-Hungarian rule at the time. Not true at all. The Black Hand was about fighting for the Serbs in the Austrian-occupied Bosnia. And I'm fairly sure Serbia was an independent state at the time (since the early 19th century Balkan Wars, in fact).

@davidbobnar1162

3 жыл бұрын

And organization was young bosnia not young serbia

that song is so sad its always the song that makes me cry i was sad when franz died but still that song

5:47 onwards is some of the best storytelling I've heard in an internet show. Great stuff.

you know, this is going to sound kind of disrespectful, but that point where the assassin says "holy shit, is that the arch duke?" is probably the funniest thing I've seen on extra creditz.

"Franz Joseph Street, a street named after the Archduke's father." Not quite.

@Wolf6119

9 жыл бұрын

+Preakentreat Ah yes. Nothing like pointing out a fuck up and fucking up in the process. *Facepalm*

@Wolf6119

9 жыл бұрын

Preakentreat Yeah, I know. I was facepalming at my own fail. Thank you for pointing it out.

I timed my like perfectly with the intro and now I am extremely satisfied.

Part of me thinks “wow, if only one little thing hasn’t happened in this sequence of events, the world would be drastically different today” but I’m pretty sure WWI was inevitable

No but seriously I've always loved this story. Its such a hilarious failure, followed by the absolute worst luck ever.

This is seriously the best story telling I've ever heard! So human and relatable, and yet full of exciting tension. Could you design all the games I play, please? Most are so flat emotionally. I hope you continue this series!

Watching this series for the first time, knowing how 2019 is going so far, is making me really nervous

There's a Nathan Hale's Hazardous Tales graphic novel about WWI. One of the things is that the characters in the war itself are all represented by animals, differing with each country(Germany's the Eagle, Serbia's the Wolf, France is the Rooster, etc.). When it gets to the assanation, it show Garvillo Princip(he's a wolf, because Serbia even though he's Bosnian) pull out his gun, walk toward the car, and fire. Then, it shows his animal face, then his human face, a look of shock, a small beard, bags under his eyes. It really adds a human element to it.

"sleek black car:" but the one in your picture is green .___.

@matthewg3814

10 жыл бұрын

Do you really expect the video to be flawless?

@rafalemiec8683

10 жыл бұрын

Usually when drawing black things in a not-hyper-realistic way you will not use black paint. Black is an achromatic colour, which means it kind of "steals" or "takes" the properties of its surrounding colours. In comics you can often see black items (especially glossy ones) depicted as very deep blue, green or purple, depending on the lightning. But it also could be that EC failed to communicate to the artist that the cars were supposed to be black ^^'

@Mandemon1990

10 жыл бұрын

Matthew G Plus, with blackoutlines, characters would blend into the cars.

@DOZDDMGator

10 жыл бұрын

yer but you dont normally use green to over say grey

@DerOrk

10 жыл бұрын

Duh- It was 1914. Colour wasnt invented yet!1

so basically this was a clusterfuck of coincidences

@Jeannick19

9 жыл бұрын

Pika Zilla Or is it not...?

@trantrungnam612

9 жыл бұрын

It was a setup by the Illuminati !!!!

@Jeannick19

9 жыл бұрын

khai do Or was it not...?

No matter what the context is, whenever I’m surprised I’ll just say ‘Holy shit is that the arch duke?’ Had me in stitches

That Ending with the In Flanders Fields instrumental was insane. I mean the Ending Ending was also insane with the In Flanders Fields Lyrics.