going against warpfire weapons for the first time is a hard lesson especially if you've no idea about them before hand. That was a rough game I won't be forgetting.

2 vids in 24 hours!? Pumping.

@Hearesy

Жыл бұрын

Its my apology to you all for last week’s lack of vids!

Good Video, I think corruption and their warpfire weapons, along with the excellent Gal Vorbak, will make them a very strong legion as well. They also get decent psykers.

Happy to hear this review as I chose to do the word bearers with my age of darkness box 😊

@Hearesy

Жыл бұрын

Awesome! Very close to making them mine too…

Really nice! Looking forward to hearing more :)

brilliant thanks

Yessssssss love them just used argel tal and 8 vorbak absolutely shredded

Thank you!

love your videos! Keep it up!

@Hearesy

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

The nice thing about Enslaved by Darkness is it stacks with other things - making a Power Fist Strength 10, or stacking with A Great And Terrible Power top get Strength 6 on a Tainted Blade, for instance. You can get to Strength 8 with a Power Maul or Tainted Maul, although that's fairly situational as you don't get Rending or Breaching so Terminators still get their 2+ vs. Instant Death. Warpfire pistols are also really good on a Moritat - the main issue with the Moritat is his more powerful/reliable weapons like Plasma and Disintegrator have Gets Hot, which means he has a fair chance of blowing himself up with them when using Chainfire and it's a pain to roll each one individually when using them - but Warpfire pistols negate both of those drawbacks and let him absolutely mince infantry.

@Hearesy

Жыл бұрын

Multiply then add, pg147!

@joelshort2907

Жыл бұрын

@@Hearesy ah, fair enough. Still, Strength 9 is still a nice little buff vs Dreadnoughts.

@Hearesy

Жыл бұрын

It is!

Looking forward to the ultramarines video

Yaaaaas my boiz!!!!

looking forward to Alpha Legion Tactics

Great video as always. Can we get a breakdown on the maths for bolt spitter weapons?

@Hearesy

Жыл бұрын

Sorry they’re too OP and I dont want to be responsible for everybody playing Word Bearers

What corrupted reads is it says you auto-pass regroup checks and IF you fail a morale check you take D3 wounds instead of falling back. So yes it is effectively auto-pass morale, but you still take the test to avoid taking the wounds, and that's where the legion trait may still come into play. The other downside is you can't choose to leave a combat due to our weapons are useless. I don't know how often that'll come up, but an opponent may seek to take advantage of that with like dreadnoughts. Some of the nuance of ability gets lost if it is collapsed down to just being an auto-pass with wounds instead. Really appreciate the video though and I enjoy the perspective you've taken on the word bearers. Opinions on the legion have been wildly varied so far. This was a magical christmas land situation that came up in my first game of HH2.0 (my first HH game ever): My blood angels opponent charged in a unit of 8 tacticals with bayonets into these two remaining tacticals of mine. They completely whiff in combat! I do no damage either. The WB trait kicks in, having me win by 1, he fails his leadership check, and I rolled higher on the sweeping advance. It was brutal and hilarious.

@eater_of_garbage_

Жыл бұрын

Our weapons are useless only matters against Sons of Horus leviathan dreadnoughts that charged or were charged, since they can be harmed by krak grenades. Gal vorbak have rending so it doesn't effect them anyway.

Alpha! Please do alpha review))))) Hydra Dominatus!)

Do thousand sons tactics next

word bearers have been my primary 40k army for years I'm glad they look good in 30k, but I decided to actually choose a different legion for 30k lol

@danielmaguire3010

Жыл бұрын

I will do them at some point it just felt like there just wasn't much cross over unit wise, so I started sons of horus fresh Bring on the banestrike veterans 😀😃

@danielmaguire3010

Жыл бұрын

That said I could really do with some help with my list lol

Quick question can you out warpfire cannons on a heavy weapon squad ?

@Hearesy

Жыл бұрын

Yep. Pricy but awesome!

I was thinking of giving my contemptor dreadnought plasma cannon and plasma blaster but battlescribe doesn't seem to have the option for the Warpfire versions...are you allowed to have them on dreadnoughts?

@Hearesy

Жыл бұрын

Yep. Just battlescribe issue!

Think the wargear legion upgrades can make a good combo, but they're just too expensive, particularly on fragile basic units. And so it becomes difficult to create a list that can utilise them effectively. Other legion wargear is more cost effective. Also a shame Ashen circle are only 1 wound 3+ save. Can't see them been used at all. Just leave one option of Deathstar Gal Vorbak in a Spartan, bit underwhelming imo..

Iron warriors Please! I feel like I wanna play 100 tac marines with Fury of Olympia 😍

I thought their advance reaction doesn't work against instant death or blast and template weapons.

@Hearesy

Жыл бұрын

What do you mean?

@Anuduin

Жыл бұрын

@@Hearesy they're advanced reaction is good but doesn't work against instant death weapons or blast/template weapons. That's all I was saying. Great video and I agree, I think they're not nearly as shite as people are banging on about. Love the channel and thanks for all your hard work. Cheers.

Glad you made it here, buddy of mine has been avoiding reading WB because he's lazy and wants to play a daemon supporter. Minor opinion, as a full melee army player who takes very few guns, movement phase reactions are huge (Angron gives 3 move closer reactions no modifiers allowed for example). They can be used as interceptors and skyhunters for attacking on arrival, moving closer or further away dictates who can enter melee at all typivally with the average 4 inches of movement, and mainly I can't use shooting phase reactions often due to a lack of guns and already having a fnp or fearless on my scary units. Just an opinion, movement is generally useful unlike shooting and melee which can just not be used depending on your enemy.

@Hearesy

Жыл бұрын

Fair points, not that i dont like them mind - mostly just consider them less good (and im mostly reviewing non melee armies so far!)

@38crippler

Жыл бұрын

@@Hearesy fair enough, looking forward to when we get to the end!

@NapGod

Жыл бұрын

because positioning is key to every wargame, any ability granting movement out of phase/turn has a high floor for usefulness. That doesn't necessarily mean they will be the strongest ability within a system though. The first man-reads-book videos largely shat on movement reactions like IF and Space Wolves, and unless you've played with or against something with out of phase or out of turn movement shenanigans which 40k doesn't have you'd be forgiven for the incorrect opinion. Anyone who's played against Ironjawz in AoS know how lethal an ability like that can be. That being said, the combo of this reaction and the warpfire guns is better than the movement based abilities I've seen so far. Warpfire is going to have you immobilized outside of melee range, and when you instead try to shoot for that bastard with the demon gun their ability to say "nah" to your attack can be game winning by itself if the timing is right. That's basically what happened to me, anyway. Although, I did not know about WB going into the match, and I'm working on my counter to that by painting a lot of tanks.

@38crippler

Жыл бұрын

@@NapGod what legion are you? My solution is rampagers and butchers go brr in WE.

@NapGod

Жыл бұрын

@@38crippler IF ima blow them up with tanks next time. best of luck getting into melee past all that pinning and breaching.

Based ward beavers 🦫

@childrenofthesun471

Жыл бұрын

The fk is that?

@viktor2563

7 ай бұрын

Logar above, ultramar below! Praise the Urizen!

True Believers is amazing. So many negative modifiers in the game. Especially when you're playing against Nightlords...at night. Whats that? minus 3 to leadership? nope. Still a 6.

Pretty much along with iron hands why night lords are not a top tier army.

worst legion trait? What? No way. It is actually really good. Morale is huge in 30k. oh well...

@Hearesy

Жыл бұрын

I think i mention in the video, its not as bad as people make it out to be. Hard to not put it at the bottom of the pile though, regardless, since getting anything below 6 is VERY unusual outside of playing vs Night Lords specifically, or in a majorly lost combat, and even then you still fail on an average roll. If it had been 7, very different story!

8:44 I have a worthy argument that corrupted characters can join uncorrupted units. RAW a character joins a unit, the unit doesn't join the character. In the third paragraph it says if the ENTIRE unit is corrupted. Why would it say that because that would never be the case if only 2 corrupted units can join. I believe a corrupted independent character can join anything but non corrupted character can't join corrupted units The RAW in game terms is a IC character joins units. Units don't join characters It will need a faq sometime

@Hearesy

Жыл бұрын

Be that as it may, point 4 literally says they can’t join!

@meanmachine6328

Жыл бұрын

@@Hearesy point 4 says a model that isn't corrupted cant join corrupted units. So a IC model is joining a unit. The unit isn't joining the IC going by that and by the 3rd point having any meaning at all I can see a corrupted character can join anything but a non corrupted character can only join non corrupted units

@Hearesy

Жыл бұрын

Ahhhh I’ve misread what you’re saying, that corrupted chars can join uncorrupted units. I agree with this and didnt say they couldnt in the episode (at least on purpose!), i assumed you’d posted because you disagreed with what I *had* said!

@meanmachine6328

Жыл бұрын

@@Hearesy 8:44 so I'm just pointing it out for the other watchers. Because you might want a corrupted lorgar in a command squad or a chaplain in a squad and not want to waste the points on dark channelling for both

But in the lore they suck at fighting.

I hadnt looked at Boltspitters from that perspective before, now I see them in a whole new light! 🥲