Why UFC Fighters Are Broke - Documentary
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You might have heard that UFC fighters like Francis Ngannou and Jake Paul have been speaking out against the UFC and its president, Dana White, regarding fighter pay. In this eye-opening documentary, we'll dive into the controversy and explore the reasons behind their criticism.
We'll delve into the three main issues that led Francis Ngannou to leave the UFC: low earnings, strict contracts, and lack of health care coverage. Through in-depth analysis, we'll uncover why these problems have become a hot topic among fighters.
But that's not all - we'll also take a closer look at the business side of the fight game. We'll explore comparisons with other combat sports and other promotions, and examine the factors that determine how much fighters get paid in the UFC. It's a complex issue that requires understanding from all angles.
This documentary is a must-watch for any fight fan who wants to gain a better understanding of the ongoing debate around UFC fighter pay. Join my KZread channel as we dig deep into this unforgiving sport and shed light on the challenges faced by fighters in the fight business. Hit that play button now and get ready to be enlightened! #ufc #mma
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Thank you for watching, and a BIG THANK YOU to everyone commenting on the subject. Fighter pay isn't a straightforward issue, and I'm glad many of you recognize that this documentary was made to be unbiased. I do highlight a positive side of Dana White at the end-love him or hate him, he built the sport we love so much, so credit to him! The next video will be about Robert Whittaker. Stay tuned!
Because Dana White wants to play $600,000 a hand at blackjack in vegas.....
@Nautilus1972
16 күн бұрын
You think he plays cards with his bosses money?
@user-sy2zt2ho1x
9 күн бұрын
What a tool Dana is a scumbag
@joedimaggio1259
6 күн бұрын
What boss
@Matt-cr4vv
5 күн бұрын
@joedimaggio1259 Ari Emmanuel, the Board of Directors, the financial duty owed by operating in the best financial interest of the shareholders considering the UFC is part of a publicly traded company and so on. So I know people love spinning that yarn that none of the UFC fighters get paid anything and that it’s all flowing over to Dana as the nefarious thief taking the pot because it sure is a much cooler story than the boring realities that have been stated endlessly by essentially everybody ever involved with the UFC that push against the narrative in so many ways about fighter pay and the boring basic fundamentals of operating a business that actually has an obligation of operating in a fashion that has a chance of reaching a profit and providing a return to shareholders. For one people often make their argument simply looking at the reported payouts from athletic commission disclosures despite it being long established that fighters almost always earn more than the disclosures indicate since the disclosures disclosure have never reflected any of the bonus pay fighters earned which is often well above their show/win money would get disclosed. Or court document showing exact amounts higher name fighters earned prior to the endeavor sale that was disclosed as $500K but was actually $5-6M. Or even Dana being such a greedy bastard that prior to the sale that stopped it paid a fighter like Liddell $400K a year to hold a BS job to try to help him remain retired to protect his health. But everybody loves to argue by using the minority of top paid boxers who earn absurd guarantees for PPV cards that end up losing huge sums of money to the point that the long standing providers of boxing for decades have exited the sport entirely and almost all major name fighters almost only box in Saudi who will subsidize the immense losses and use that as the standard of the fairness of what UFC fighters earn. The boring reality is only the slim majority of boxers earn the extreme paydays people point to, those events almost always lose huge money, the average fighter in the UFC makes more than the average pro boxer, and surprisingly when you need to profit from your events you can’t guarantee somebody $30M and then sell less than 100K in buys like Ngannou and Fury did and remain in business without somebody subsidizing your endless losses.
@rjftransport2682
5 күн бұрын
What Dana White does with the money he earns is irelevant.. 3 men took the UFC basically from hell and turned it into a Sport and and something thats so far ahead of the fucking game it would take something pretty amazing to even compare.. Its not even an apples and oranges game. 2% of UFC revenue for fighter pay is still more money as a whole than these wonton promotions talkin shit about they pay 50%. ..... 50% of nothing will always be NOTHING!. Do they offer anything else? Ufc offers many diff professional services thru a free World Class Facilty. Those people whom provide those services and therapy dont come w/o a cost. As a business owner. I dont care if you think Dana Whites greedy a dickhead or how you feel. Noone can disrespect him for what its taken from him to put the UFC in a Premier World Class position.. As with anything in life, If you suck, your pay reflects it. If you make a Company revenue you will reap the rewards thru negotiating the right contracts, financially, if you invest and not run thru money living outside of your means" youll be sucessful. This shits all ABC type stuff. The UFC imo falls between Sports/Entertainment category. If you attract the publics eyes,Your loyal to the business,.You build relations, Youll be on top of the heap. Is Mcgregor one of my favs? naw. Has he done alot for mma hell ya and i respect that in him. Has he invested,made wise decisions with his revenue. Of course. Will he ever hurt financially . I dont forsee it. My point is in my rambling is. Not everyone in the fight game wil be sucessful rich and famous. You must plow a path to sucess. I mean literally fuckin plow a path. And Dana White gives back to his fighters and the community in ways others apparently dont pay attention or see simply because its Danas business whether he chooses to discuss it or not. Just remember its a fighters goal to grasp all he can. Its the UFC as a business whos there to do exactly the same. Its not a share your wealth world in business.Dana has numbers ran constantly and i dont believe he will ever risk the UFC as being less than World Class over a few bucks pay or pay lesa than any other promotion pays. The percentage talk is horse shit. 50% sounds great but only is 50% is above the 5% UFC offered. And its not close.. just throwing numbers out there above so no drama . People almost gets locked into positions they really dont want to be in, stop think , weigh out options prior to making yourself miserable or homeless. America offers alternatives, choices, options. Move on if its not cutting it for you personally.
At the very least they should allow them to have their own sponsors again. If they’re truly independent contractors then their sponsors shouldn’t matter to you they are their own brand at that point.
@vomitkermit3446
22 күн бұрын
Agreed
@saucegotti9416
18 күн бұрын
I agree. But it does look better with no sponsors
@JakeThom18363
16 күн бұрын
Its not even a look thing anymore. They could have criteria and other ways for making it more appealing. But how much money does Endeaver lose in assets annually for no longer offering big name companies big advertisements exclusive that doesn't often have a competitor on the same card.
@Trucker231610
16 күн бұрын
They can have their own sponsors. The only stipulation is The walk to the cage, inside the cage, and the walk from the cage. SO they have all of fight week to do press displaying their sponsor. They can also do TV ads year around. Watching this video shows the UFC is taking care of the fighters way better than any other promotion including 80% of boxers.. So y'all idiots get off the band wagon and look at the facts.
@jasonstuart2815
14 күн бұрын
@Trucker231610 yes but a sponser pays 10x the amount to wear it while fighting compared to pre fight/post fight
RIP Bonner, true warrior and pioneer
@SoyMarina
11 күн бұрын
Bonnar.
@tmzz3609
10 күн бұрын
He died of a fentanyl overdose not because the UFC didn't pay him enough
@yaboyreege7158
10 күн бұрын
@@tmzz3609no one said anything about how he died. He was in one of the most impactful fights of all time. Use your brain
@HighSideHustler81
9 күн бұрын
@@tmzz3609he said absolutely nothing too do with him besides rip, and you then toss his addiction and struggle into it? Wow , dirtbag comment of the month, maybe even the year so far 🤦♂️🤦♂️
@starfleetcommander
8 күн бұрын
@@tmzz3609 I think its a prescription pain ki11er. He was probably on oxy for years...
Great documentary that shows both sides. This deserves SO many more views.
@bloodsportfilms
2 ай бұрын
Thanks brother!
@bushidothedon
7 күн бұрын
True, love that it showed both sides
The UFC has 300 fighters. 5% are stars.
@FlipNasty1
12 күн бұрын
The entitlement is a new generation thing... not everyone is marketable... it's also the fight game... gotta fight to be the best.. don't sign the CONTRACT then
@patrickp8315
8 күн бұрын
How many people play basketballs and how many became NBA stars? That's life. Not everyone can be a star.
@melkhanya
5 күн бұрын
@@FlipNasty1 It's not Fight and get paid it's sell tickets and get paid
@ghplayer1992
3 күн бұрын
Exactly no stars at all
Dana you need to pay these guys more. You're worth $500M. How can you sleep at night? New young fighters can't afford to fight. Give them a chance. Be fair.
@RaiBread.
11 сағат бұрын
Lmfaoooooooooooooooooo.... Oooooooooooooo... oooooo. No. Lol
@DragonZombie2000
10 сағат бұрын
Dana isn't the CEO, it's Ari Emmanuel. Its a publicly traded company where an investment group Silver lake management owns 30 percent of the shares. Please educate yourself, it's sad UFC fighters are so financially clueless they think Dana White pays them out of his own pocket
@RaiBread.
10 сағат бұрын
@DragonZombie2000 thank you lol 😆
Basically, UFC pay top 1% and the rest of the 99% are screwed
@umarrazvi
13 күн бұрын
But thats also life no?
@atorres59
13 күн бұрын
just like casino does
@bubbakushii
12 күн бұрын
Just like boxing
@FlipNasty1
12 күн бұрын
Just like life... so what
@bryantsmead4787
12 күн бұрын
😢 feel so bad!
"If you're in business with me, don't tell me no" That sounds like a superiority, inferiority relationship if anything.
@ChrisFranco
11 күн бұрын
That quote was taken out of context. He was talking about being able to bring ideas to life.
@scumbagjesus999
10 күн бұрын
How a pimp talks to his women 😂
@oldtimer5316
7 сағат бұрын
Sounds like P. Diddy!
i was expecting to just watch 2 minutes of this documentary. I ended up watching the WHOLE thing!! Mad love and huge respect to the dudes who put this together. Great doc!!
@bloodsportfilms
Ай бұрын
Im glad you liked it! The dudes is actually just one guy, me 😅 stick around, Max Holloway documentary coming out in the next few days
@liamsanchez629
Ай бұрын
@@bloodsportfilms count me in my guy. I'll be there.
@That90sShow
9 күн бұрын
Wow!!! You committed 30 minutes of your busy life!! Amazing!
Wow ,! You actually showed both sides. In my opinion, the only thing I don't like is how much they pay fighters for their first fights. If they give new fighters 20k and 20k. There are no more fighter pay problems. Because in my opinion, fighters, during their first fights, are in most need for money, because that extra 5k or 8k means a better fight camp or a dietitian. There's a problem with journalists who claim to be unbiased, notoriously, Ariel helwani. That guy always use fighters to shit on the UFC and especially Dana white.
@bloodsportfilms
Жыл бұрын
That is such a great point, yes I agree the new fighters should get more since a camp can cost a lot of money. And yeah mma journalism needs improvement. The thing is, they know all of this stuff and even more but their job isn't always about the truth its about selling stories, some sad stuff really.
@PinvinoPiggg
16 күн бұрын
Yes, he shits on Dana and the ufc more than others but honestly there is truth in what he says. I agree journalism should be unbiased but fighters in the ufc should get more not only the stars should be payed accordingly.
@stefan2005stefan
9 күн бұрын
cos dana is evil.
I am 61 years old are used to watch all the sports but now the only sport watches UFC it really really really pisses me off that these people are sacrificing and risking their life for pennies in reality
@JamesDavisakaRemguy
13 күн бұрын
Hey, I’M 61 years old and only watch MMA. But I’m not sure I still think the fighters are underpaid. To be honest, I’m not 100% sure I really understand what the takeaway was from this video. Seemed to me that they were saying the UFC pays pretty well. Anyway, I just love the game. If I had to do it all over again, I’m pretty sure I would give MMA a try. But, alas, that ship has sailed... ...had a grease fire, an outbreak, and a mutiny, THEN hit the iceberg and sank.
@stephenbartlett1167
11 күн бұрын
I’m 72 and it pisses me off too
@Sean-zz2lj
7 күн бұрын
I’m 37 and I really don’t give a sh!t, they couldn’t care less about me and what I make or if I risk my life in a dangerous job so why would I care or any fan for than matter?
As a contractor myself, the main and nearly only problem i see with ufc pay is that they are not paid a cent for their exclusivity, I subcontract for one person , if a better offer come in i can leave and take that work and if someone wanted to lock me into a exclusive contract I'd want to be compensated with either lump sum,extra % per job or a wage like payment. I feel if the fighters come together to fix this one thing, it solves almost all problems with fighter pay
@gmy33
11 күн бұрын
Yep you are right
All athletes have to realize that there are inherent risks in their sports, race car driving, fighting, football. So they can’t go back and blame anyone else for that, but I always believed the UFC fighters are getting screwed big time on pay. Especially when the UFC took all their sponsorship deals, that was a dirty ass move. And Dana is a greedy scumbag, he said boxers are overpaid? They wouldn’t put on the promotions if people weren’t making money. The UFC will only pay the fighters the bare minimum that they have to to keep them, and since the other organizations are so small, right now the UFC is the most lucrative fighting organization for the promoters by a long shot. And the performance institute is free for fighters, that is great, but don’t act like you are so benevolent Dana, when you know damn well it is a tax right off, come on!
@javiergonzalez4283
Ай бұрын
Yeah Show Time made so much money huh😂😂 they don’t make enough revenue or sell enough ppvs; they weren’t profitable😂
This is true unless you're a mcgregor with an entire country paying for your PPVs you're broke because of all the things you need to pay for and time you need to allot to compete. This is why I was stopped by my mother to pursue boxing when she was still alive. I won 10 fights. I only got 1500 philippine pesos and I needed 1500 more to pay more my monthly gym membership also I had to get checked because I had signs of punch drunk. I lost more money because a lot of things go to nutrition, gym fees, cornermen and management. You do it because you love it. Now I'm trying to get back because competing is very thrilling it's like you're a god in there.
@bloodsportfilms
3 ай бұрын
man what a story, I wish you all the best my friend!
@HalFraser
9 күн бұрын
Don’t forget, McGregor really made his most money in a non-UFC boxing match with Mayweather. I think the rumor was that a purse of more than $100 million was paid each fighter. I do t know the economics, I think Dana White allowed McGregor to fight Mayweather, and then promoted the fight and took a cut for himself and or the UFC. It was a pretty amazing financial outcome.
@crazypato3752
8 күн бұрын
@@HalFraseryes, Dana and UFC took a cut off Conor's Paycheck. Francis on the other hand didn't have to give anything to Dana
Chilling when she says “Tony Ferguson”
@pittsburghbob69
25 күн бұрын
You can tell that made it real and she didn’t want to say his name. Talk about last resort. And still, he hasn’t revived any major psychological help(at least publicly). I can’t imagine it all of a sudden just got better. Just better at hiding it.
@Arahsure
21 күн бұрын
@@pittsburghbob69I seen him on Rampages pod recently and he still seemed a bit out there..even for Tony.. I really hope the best for him. It really wasn't that long ago he was on a 12 fight win streak..and (mostly) loved by the fans. I remember hearing that phone call before and I agree with your take..she didn't want to do that..must be awful.
@fernandojr8436
12 күн бұрын
El cucuy
People dont realize the severity of signing a contract. The promotion has you by the balls. Unless you're Conor, jones, gsp or jorge to name a few.
@brock8396
14 күн бұрын
But if you don't like it, don't sign it. That's why it's called a negotiation
@crazypato3752
8 күн бұрын
They also got grabbed by the b*lls. Remember when Conor was frustated that the UFC didn't give him fights
@Matt-cr4vv
6 күн бұрын
The idea of a promotion investing to build the name and brand of a fighter they don’t have over a longer period of time to see a return on is fairly silly, hence why all the major promotions operate that way. Even in boxing that idea of full freedom doesn’t really exist.
It's odd Dana smash boxing over Bowe throwing his belt in the trash when Conor essentially did the same thing with two belts.
There were a lot of good points made in this video/short doc that I've never heard nor thought about before. Great content. - new sub
@bloodsportfilms
14 күн бұрын
Welcome aboard!
Great doc.. small bit of advise.. turn the background music down
@bloodsportfilms
Ай бұрын
Thank you!
@harrytgough9101
24 күн бұрын
I agree, it's not too loud, but 10% quieter would be better
All of the them should protest and not show up for a major ppv event. Pull a lock out.
@bloodsportfilms
Жыл бұрын
Very interesting point! So like a strike for a UFC ppv event in order to increase pay?
@youssefhamidi8152
Жыл бұрын
@@bloodsportfilms exactly lol i dont think Itll ever happen though
@bloodsportfilms
Жыл бұрын
@@youssefhamidi8152 we never know honestly 🤷🏽♂️ the NFL players did it in the past maybe the UFC fighters will someday
@KyleDad
Жыл бұрын
That would be so stupid if they did that UFC could cut all the small irrelevant fighters who dared to try to ruin their ppv and where do they go than no where cause they don't have big enough names and all the big fighters would get fined from the UFC for not applying to the ppv that they signed on there own contract and fans wouldn't side with them a small amount will but not the majority remember when Jon Jones refused to fight at ppv and they were forced to cancel it the UFC fans piled on him angrily I like your morals but not the idea a more better solution is fighters to get big in the UFC and when that are huge then threaten to leave so the UFC can offer more expensive payment it what Francis f,ed up on he should taken the Jones fight and than if he won be the biggest and most wanted free agent.
@nicholasjohnston4785
8 ай бұрын
@@KyleDadngannou still got that fury fight though hes done pretty well in the end
“I’m gonna drink a Coors Light….thats a Coors Light because Bud Light won’t pay me nothing!” Brock Lesnar saying the quiet part out loud 15 years ago
@user-nl6dg2mp8p
Күн бұрын
Best line ever! I remember Brock saying that at I believe UFC 200 - the only UFC I ever paid to watch.
It's just not worth it becoming a UFC fighter. Having to put up with Dana, CTE, cauliflower ears.
@user-ol8ri4lb7d
9 күн бұрын
100% if u fight for a living your either desperate or slightly insane at least
@crazypato3752
8 күн бұрын
@@user-ol8ri4lb7dor you can't do an office job without feeling dead inside
@daGoattttttttt
Күн бұрын
Good amount of those guys came from a life of poverty and a troubled past, for some it wasn’t much of a choice
Loved this video man! Please make more I really enjoyed this!
Great video bro. 👊
A very VERY well made video in my opinion. This showed in detail both sides of the fence with just facts instead of opinions and without any biased bs like there usually always is and i thought that was fantastic i really enjoyed this video and I'd love to see more videos of this calibre its important that fact based stuff like this is shown so people can make their own minds up about stuff thats real instead of having to take someone else's opinions on board like how the media usually portrays the stories they're doing and then probably change their minds on it all next week. This is how it should be shown to us....facts....actual factual facts. Shouldn't be too much to ask for imo.
@JamesDavisakaRemguy
13 күн бұрын
Well said, mate. This is sadly all too rare. No ready-made opinions, no spin, no left or right wing agendas. As Det. Joe Friday used to say, “Just the facts.” Documentaries should ALL be like this. Well done!
Dana white lying to us fighters cant speak on there contract it gag clause in there contract UFC only sport that don’t pay enough
@Gheofoil-3
13 күн бұрын
women athletes everywhere reading this 0_0
Movie level production documentary. Great Job!
Us fans, we are so used to seeing the big stars earn millions so we dont ever think about those $50K fight of the night or KO of the night bonuses are literally life-changing money for the fighters lower on the card
So the moral of the story is health care is way too expensive
Great work
@bloodsportfilms
14 күн бұрын
Thank you so much 😀
Well made learned alot!!!
Nice balanced documentary.
Great documentary, first time viewer and now subbed. Great pacing and you don't sound like a bot!
@bloodsportfilms
5 күн бұрын
Welcome aboard!
Great video. From dramatic to beautiful ending. Great Documentary 🎉
@bloodsportfilms
25 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you Dana for not allowing the ufc to turn into boxing
@Bob-te3le
Күн бұрын
Of course not he would have to pay more. There's a reason the UFC biggest fighter ever McGregor had to do a boxing match to get filthy filthy rich.
Great documentary!
It's harder to make a buck in boxing than UFC unless you're the 1% elite PRO.
By far the most honest breakdown I’ve seen on the subject, No BS and plenty of facts to back up the message, great video 👏
@bloodsportfilms
21 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed!
The Ali Act Needs To Be Amended Legislated Into MMA. Former UFC Champion Hall of Fame Randy Couture Is Advocating For It.!
@reginaldmerriweather4713
27 күн бұрын
But the other promoters they need to do just as good as UFC because will just out bid them
@johndicksonkaraoke2554
27 күн бұрын
@@reginaldmerriweather4713 The Bellator President Scott Coker is in Favor of the Ali Act.
@AmberLobry
12 күн бұрын
Randy is a dummy and so are you. You capitalized evert word of your post. The Ali Act would ruin MMA as it did boxing.
@stephenbartlett1167
11 күн бұрын
Agreed. Fighter pay will go up significantly
@slicingonions4398
10 күн бұрын
The ufc spends millions a year to keep it from coming to mma
Mighty mouse earning 200000 at the most is RIDICOULESS! Derrick lewis makes 400000 everytime he goes in the octagon.
Outstanding work 👏
@bloodsportfilms
14 күн бұрын
Thank you!
12 thousand dollars for 15 mins seems fair to me as a disabled war veteran that got 38 thousand for 13 months
@RaiBread.
10 сағат бұрын
Exactly. These losers complaining about mma pay, while freedom fighters, school teachers, firefighters, mailman all get dicked. The priority of the average American is sooooo gone.
Great Doc!!! Love that you showed both sides. The main point for me was how Dana takes care of his fighters, let pettis use the PI after he left for his mental health, told Nate whatever you need this is your house, tons of donations to struggling fighters going through issues, the 1-million-dollar surprise checks to fighters even after they lose! Dana is a Legend, and the UFC is beyond a great company.
Great video. I dislike the UFC and its practices, but as you showcased, the fighter pay situation is more nuanced than it seems
Fantastic doc, mate. thank you.
@bloodsportfilms
25 күн бұрын
My pleasure!
Great video Showed insights from both sides Amazing amazing work
Extremely underrated video
Very interesting video. I think the reebook/venom deal is the bigges problem. NBA and soccer player havetheir shoe deals, amd it is a lot of money. Fighters involve in a platform like the ufc could be making huge money for sponsors. Maybe UFC could get a cut like 10-20%. I still think the UFC fighters are underpaid.
@johndicksonkaraoke2554
8 ай бұрын
Former UFC Champion Randy Couture is Advocating For the Ali Act To Be Amended Legislated Into MMA.
@FighterMindset2024
2 ай бұрын
UFC back in the day, charged every sponsor 100k to be able to even get a chance to sponsor them on their show.
@Bob-te3le
Күн бұрын
They are. Remer the biggest UFC Fighter ever McGregor didn't get filthy filthy rich until he did a boxing match. That says it all.
Well done
This is a great documentary !
As long as the fighters avoid collective bargaining they will be preyed on by the promotions.
When UFC video game first came out, some fighters were forced to sell their likeness in perpetuity For $1500 or risk, having their contract. Terminated.
@RaiBread.
10 сағат бұрын
Force lmaooo. Yeah they where at gunpoint forced either sign or die. Yep, I read that too in some reddit dwellers post 😂😂
This a great video
@bloodsportfilms
10 күн бұрын
Glad you think so!
I remember when Jared Cannonier was interviewed after a fight and said that he was broke and needed more money. He has something like 5 kids, but he is from Dallas, TX where (at the time) the cost of living was lower than many other cities and according to a web search his net worth is estimated at about $1 million. That puts him in the upper class. All the fans who think UFC fighters aren't paid enough need to look at their own paychecks first.
This is very informative and unbiased. Great work
“Aren’t you gonna wash your hands?” 🤣 Great vid btw
@bloodsportfilms
5 күн бұрын
Thanks! 😁
The stupidest argument against fair pay is "keeping competition viable". As if the UFC were underpaying to give other promotions a chance. If you have a successful business you pay, how your business associates handle success is not your problem; Dana White is not supposed to starve fighters to keep them honest. It's amazing he gets away with those comments.
It’s funny how you clipped “ Dana is a notorious gambler” What he actually said was that Dena was a notorious gambler for winning he has been removed from casinos, and he’s not allowed to play at certain places because he wins
@RaiBread.
10 сағат бұрын
Anything to paint the narrative the way they want you to think 😂. He thought he was slick and we wouldn't notice.
Fairly done my man. Well executed! The fighter PI was an absolute game changer. 15-15 or 15-20 from 10-10. If you can just get a finish for 50k & do the institute you can lay a foundation but, not everyone can risk & lose while already being in debt like most are starting
Amazing documentary
@bloodsportfilms
5 күн бұрын
Glad you think so!
I used to head to mma junkie and read results of shows and it always blew me away how low the pay was especially for the undercard fighters. Now this is in the mid 2000s just before and just after TUF. Once that hit the sport blew up as we all know. Even a couple of years after the first TUF it blew me away that guys would get $1000 to $3000 for an undercard bout. No way that would even cover a proper fight prep. Hell it probably wouldn't cover your food and supplement alone. The sport was huge even when it was growing. We all saw the clothing lines, fighters were getting sponsorship deals with supplement companies, etc, but it was just pathetic how much a lot of those fighters were paid.
good vidoe here and it was non biased in my opinion it was a real look at the fight game/business with honest looks at alot of ppl
Long ago I friend of mine use to fight for the ufc. He left after they tried to get him to sign a paper stating that the ufc was not a monopoly. Today we can clearly see that it is. Low pay and no gain. Dana going around bragging about how he gets banned from casinos because he won a million 🙄 but then lost 3, million he actually believed their hype and they got him lol~ fighting for free is not what any sport athlete plays for. Nick Diaz & Nate Diaz had a big name but both fighters combined never made more than mcgregor why is that fair? Let’s be honest today we easily see how ufc fighters have gotten ripped off ( Reebok curtain deal) to further steal money from fighters. Enough said.
@Bob-te3le
Күн бұрын
Thats why ONE Championship I'm Asia is important. And they coming for the UFC and they make more money than the UFC because Asia is by far the biggest market.
@Bob-te3le
Күн бұрын
Shoot look the PGA Tour. If you don't make the weekend cut you don't get paid anything at all. Imagine going to work and not getting paid anything. That's why I'm for LIV Golf Tour the more great paying options the better for the athletes.
My friend is a ufc fighter. He lives very comfortably
@user-pe8cb8mf3r
8 күн бұрын
Who is your friend?
@Bob-te3le
Күн бұрын
@@user-pe8cb8mf3rHe won't say because we can look up his lie.
I would never recommend a kid to aspire to be a professional fighter. The money is absolutely not worth the risk. Use the same efforts somewhere else.
McGregor isn't broke Dana White isn't broke what is a double standard
@Bob-te3le
Күн бұрын
McGregor got filthy rich from a boxing match. LOL. And of course Dan'a ain't broke he basically is a co owner of the UFC.
With the release of all the documents around the antitrust lawsuit it feels like this video is now outdated because we have clear facts that show how underpaid they are. And how greedy and controlling the UFC is.
@Bob-te3le
Күн бұрын
Preach
There will always be unhappy employees no matter where you go, it's human nature to want more. This topic would be a mute point had it not been for Dana and the Furtida's resurrecting the sport. They virtually turned a non-existent sport into a world wide phenomenon. I love the fighters and they are the reason I watch the fights, they do not have to sign contracts with the UFC but they do because the UFC comparatively takes care of their fighters better than any alternative fighting organization. I do not know Dana White but I have teared up a few times over some of his acts of kindness and I truly feel he is a boss that cares.
This was a really good video. Its a complicated situation but I love the UFC. Im grateful for it and don't ever want to see it replaced. I love the fighters too and respect and want the best for them. I think the UFC does a lot of good and sometimes gets an unfair bad rep.
@bloodsportfilms
23 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
Prime logo on a ufc mat sure changed the Paul brothers view on Dana and the ufc
@PiranhaVS
26 күн бұрын
Why cause g he e took their money ?
Being a professional fighter isnt worth the time and risk. I had muaythai fight and worked away
A Really Good Video 📹 👏 Wow!!
@bloodsportfilms
10 күн бұрын
Thanks! 😃
Its the entertainment business. If you're entertaining, the (entertainment) company pays you. It's plain and simple. There's no confusion here. Smart work is just as important as hard work.
Wow interesting to hear this
I don't understand the controversy. If you don't like it, or if you aren't making more money than you are worth, quit. YOU chose this job. If you don't like it, there is always barber college.
@jakubjakub1441
10 күн бұрын
That's the problem that the only thing they can do is fighting. they're very often from the street and can't do anything else and the most importent aspect a majority of them don't know nothing about doing a showbiz or they completly don't have a laverages in negotations. Because for them is like the life-saving opportunity that's why they fighting for low-prices. Sorry for english
@205ken4
10 күн бұрын
Exactly! I’m currently not earning as much owning my small business as I would be at a 40 hr per week job, It’s my decision to keep trying - I get so tired of people whining
Fighter pay isnt the issue. Its costs of fighting. UFC should pay for the medical tests, food, coaches, travel. All of it went into the fight so why should fighters have to pay to fight. UFC should have some sort of per diem for each fight.
@bloodsportfilms
2 ай бұрын
that's a good point, basically provide employee benefits!
@TheTraya
18 күн бұрын
This is incredibly uninformed
@anthonyensley7200
14 күн бұрын
@@TheTrayainform us
@Andrew-un8tx
14 күн бұрын
When a fighter is under contract for a fight all their medical expenses are covered. All their travel is covered.
@GaotamGambhir
14 күн бұрын
So...If they got payed more they could afford all of that
RIP BONNAR
@slicingonions4398
10 күн бұрын
Bonnar begged dana to pay to save his life and he didn't. Yet he still says thanks to Bonnar and Forrest for kickstarting his career
@jeffdollaz
10 күн бұрын
@@slicingonions4398 I can’t stand that guy but you reap what you sow
It would be easy to crack down on strikes to a knocked out or tkod opponent. Some guys get hit HARD by the hardest hitters when they are already out cold, that cant be good
These guys could have gone to school to learn, instead they went there to start their fight clubs.
Thanks
Here is the thing though no one is forcing theses fighters to fight, they know the risks and they decide the money is worth it to them
Great job for an independent content creator!
@bloodsportfilms
10 күн бұрын
Much appreciated!
Moral of the story: don't fight for a living.
Quoting Dana white “the worst thing about fighters is that they get 80% of my money”.
@deankosta6216
Ай бұрын
Wow
@J-xc4pw
23 күн бұрын
I love the sport, but I find it increasingly difficult to support the business. I can’t in good conscience support a business that trade’s profits for a persons well being.
I think its normal that failing promotions try to attract talent by paying more because there’s less weight on their brand compared to the fighters brands unlike the ufc The ufc made them that has a value.
I thought DC was going to say they asked for the million back after the Rumble fight lol.
Hope this video will get more attention!
@bloodsportfilms
Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir! Time will tell :)
Man, they act like being paid 50k for 1 fight is chump change. They can fight 3 to 4 times per year. That is a very good living for most of them.
@Bob-te3le
Күн бұрын
Minus paying taxes , paying dr bills , paying coaches and trainers
The UFC evades taxes and underpays while serving fighters 1099s where the IRS finishes the job
Pay controversy aside, Dana earned my respect when he stood against the cancel culture and fraudulent Pharma companies during Covid.
@bloodsportfilms
5 күн бұрын
Amen
There is literally thousands of boxers that are unheard of to the mainstream public even some armchair fans that are making more than most of the top 15 in every weight division of the UFC If Dana white doesn’t change the way things are structured very soon he will loose control of the MMA world
@Bob-te3le
Күн бұрын
He already is. One Championship in Asia is bigger abd makes more money.
The ufc should pay the fighters trainers a set amount so that the fighter can keep the money he's paid instead of having to pay most of it out.
@FlipNasty1
12 күн бұрын
No.. clearly you were born after the 90s
The business model seems fair to me for some reason. It is based on meritocracy. The only change I'd make is to allow fighters to have their own independent sponsors. I am a fan of freedom of speech and expression. I think they should be able to either choose an income from the UFC or the ability to have sponsorship freedom. I see that as a win win. UFC does not have to pay the fighters and the fighters can go be entrepreneurs. That deal makes too much sense for it to ever happen.
I like this video but question: Where do you factor in the # of fighters? 18% to 578 fighters compared to 50% to 70 fighters is significantly different. That’s often a talking point that is missed. Yes UFC could pay out more to fighters but they also have a significantly larger roster meaning less per fighter regardless. Especially those 1 and done fighters that lose a fight and are tossed aside.
@bloodsportfilms
9 ай бұрын
The UFC back in 2021 had about the same amount of fighters than Bellator. Close to 500 fighters for each company. This research was made by a reporter where these numbers were taken from legal documents due to their lawsuit. But for those 1 and done fighters thats tough to find out since it can happen in every company. By now the UFC has more fighters tho, Dana mentioned at least 600 a few weeks ago.
@christionanigilaje2555
8 ай бұрын
the nil pays about 50% and they have over 1600 players
So people that get punched in the face make bad business decisions??? Noooooooooo... 🤦♂️
I think there are people who genuinely love fighting, playing football, etc. just because you don’t doesn’t mean everyone is like you.
The UFC needs to get rid of that reebok contract and let these fighters get their own sponsors. Some fighters lost 6 figures when the UFC signed that contract.
This was *GREATTTT* but let me add a pro boxer perspective to this. 99.5% of boxers make dirt and you have three choices 1 Cardio box teacher 2 Coach and sparring 3 Private lessons with hopefully wealthy clients The third is the ideal During your career if you are in the top 50 rankings you are making $30k-$50k a fight a couple times a year with no insurance and having to pay out several people Other guys are making $1000 a figbt and dreaming of getting to $10k a fight one day. Also paying out to several people. It is almost gusranteed you are going to be broke wnd working a full time job I love the sport more than anythijg but unless you are Beterbiev you are not going to make money
@user-wr1yh2zw6l
11 күн бұрын
My father was a boxing coach, in the eighties I remember some fighters making $500.00, the most I believe was mabe $3000.00 and that was traveling from SC to Atlantic city, we had a cruiser weight fight buster Douglass.
Thanks greT story