Bro stick to wuthering and hsr, don't bother playing other games, u just ruining your youtube channel

@birb3108

3 күн бұрын

Be quiet dork

@treasure9342

3 күн бұрын

Expanding ur brand is never a bad thing

@_Gabimaru

3 күн бұрын

Pin of shame

@Jeffreyhatesyoutube

3 күн бұрын

You're right man, he should listen to you cos you have so many subs

@apexeagle1446

3 күн бұрын

imagine telling others what to do and not to do

After THREE betas of players telling hoyo that the TV is the weakest aspect of the game they dug their heels

@Radish21

3 күн бұрын

they just kept it, its fine i already uninstalled the game after playing the tv system lol

@RogerNbr

3 күн бұрын

not only that but they knew it sucks so it was absent from every single trailer lmao

@twalker5801

3 күн бұрын

Hoyo didn’t listen? Imagine my shock 😮

@Hikaru-Kamiki-Oshi-No-Ko

3 күн бұрын

If you stupid *play this game" If you so dumb *play this game* If you idiot *play this game* If you brainless *play this game* If you a monkey *play this game* Just smash button (close eyes) & you still win the boss battle This is great game for you all people (🐒) Full Review ZZZ by IGN *1 ⭐⭐⭐2024 Garbage Game ⭐⭐⭐ Install& sleep 💤😴💤 50GB for Faking Boring Repetitive is Idiot stupid thing ever It's getting better after EOS 😂😂😂

@Hikaru-Kamiki-Oshi-No-Ko

3 күн бұрын

If you stupid *play this game" If you so dumb *play this game" If you idiot *play this game" If you brainless *play this game" If you 5 years old *play this game" 😱 If you a monkey *play this game" Hoyo Targeted Children Audience for sure I'm curios is true all staff hoyo is Pedophiles 🤔 Just smash button (close eyes) & you still win the boss battle This is great game for you all people (🐒) Full Review ZZZ by IGN *1 ⭐⭐⭐2024 Garbage Game ⭐⭐⭐ Install& sleep 💤😴💤 50GB for Faking Boring Repetitive is Idiot stupid thing ever It's getting better after EOS 😂😂😂

After watching this video, I kinda get the feeling that ZZZ is leaning towards a visual novel with playable fight scenes (w/ a gacha system)

@tdxvd9228

3 күн бұрын

exactly

@treasure9342

3 күн бұрын

The People who were saying it's just Hi3rd 2.0 is starting to make alot more sense now

@NoYes-uq2tz

3 күн бұрын

Which is crazy since it was originally meant to be combat heavy

@YouAreAsleep

3 күн бұрын

I hope so! I love the aesthetics and gameplay!

@forbiddensuper2369

3 күн бұрын

So like scarlet nexus then

I don’t know why they thought less control of the characters you possibly paid for was a good idea

@KamiGemaGaming

3 күн бұрын

not point in rolling for characters if i cant use them yoou know. Ill stick to f2p in this game or drop it entirely.

@magdieldexter

3 күн бұрын

@@KamiGemaGamingGenshin moment. Get constellations to get hit with unskippable dialogue and cooking events

@EyelessAugust

3 күн бұрын

@@magdieldexteryeah in dialogue, but in combat you get to use them as much as you’d like. You can even choose when to switch characters🤯

@JohnHurt-ym5jq

3 күн бұрын

@@EyelessAugust imagine being so braindead LOL

@LeJuiceCan

3 күн бұрын

Idk why we cant even run around the city as our preferred character and the game just swaps to mc when its time for important interactions. Very off putting to not be able to see your unit or fight with after summoning.

Cbt1 : tv segment is bad. Hoyo : listened. Cbt2 : tv segment is bad. Hoyo : listened. Cbt3: tv segment is bad. Hoyo : listened. Released : tv segment is bad. Hoyo : listened. Hoyo fans, im sure hoyo will listen 😊

@Khann_2102

3 күн бұрын

They're coping so hard

@motivateddad

3 күн бұрын

Devs Listened, but did not act.

@skyMcWeeds

3 күн бұрын

Hoyo: you will like it and cope Hoyoknights: yes all hail hoyo

@NFYT

3 күн бұрын

i heard that they reduced it a lot and then added the 2x

@backpackpepelon3867

3 күн бұрын

ZZZ got those genshin devs for sure to manage them, its obvious they don't give a shit after dehya incident 😂.

I only hate the tv system while going through the story, I actually really like it whenever I’m doing the mode similar to sim uni from hsr, it feels much better

@jordancarroll1217

3 күн бұрын

That's the only time I hate the TV system otherwise I don't mind it

@HRavenfolks

3 күн бұрын

Same. Like what smack said, the system itself isn't bad. What makes it bad is the fact that they're placed in the wrong part of the game, the story.

@ishtarvaron4980

3 күн бұрын

Personally I really like the story told by the TV system, comic strips, etc... as I don't use the skip for the dialogues I like it, but as you can't skip the story by the TV system I can hear that it frustrates some people (even if I can't understand them as I never use skip in all games)

The TV system breaks the story immersion so hard it's actually insane. Like i'm fine if it was just in hollow zero but intergrating it into the story is just so weird to me. I'd honestly rather sit through some still images and cutscenes than do that scrap. massive chore.

@youness4247

3 күн бұрын

50 gb of TV's

@Hikaru-Kamiki-Oshi-No-Ko

3 күн бұрын

If you stupid *play this game" If you so dumb *play this game* If you idiot *play this game* If you brainless *play this game* If you a monkey *play this game* Just smash button (close eyes) & you still win the boss battle This is great game for you all people (🐒) Full Review ZZZ by IGN *1 ⭐⭐⭐2024 Garbage Game ⭐⭐⭐ Install& sleep 💤😴💤 50GB for Faking Boring Repetitive is Idiot stupid thing ever It's getting better after EOS 😂😂😂

@elitovon2833

3 күн бұрын

Like I don’t even know why are there TVs what is the point of the TVs to the job of the proxies?

@Hikaru-Kamiki-Oshi-No-Ko

3 күн бұрын

If you stupid *play this game" If you so dumb *play this game" If you idiot *play this game" If you brainless *play this game" If you 5 years old *play this game" 😱 If you a monkey *play this game" Hoyo Targeted Children Audience for sure I'm curios is true all staff hoyo is Pedophiles 🤔 Just smash button (close eyes) & you still win the boss battle This is great game for you all people (🐒) Full Review ZZZ by IGN *1 ⭐⭐⭐2024 Garbage Game ⭐⭐⭐ Install& sleep 💤😴💤 50GB for Faking Boring Repetitive is Idiot stupid thing ever It's getting better after EOS 😂😂😂

@danielestrada3390

3 күн бұрын

The story is bad as it is. Theres no major enemy or major goal. The hacker is the only major bad guy, and their impact is... meh. Add the tv system to that. It breaks the immersion from the already boring story... And the lack of combat, why did they say that they will focus on the combat aspect if they will just lock the combat behind the tv system, which takes more time to do than the combat

Imagine that you had to solve a puzzle after every 5 minutes of watching a movie/anime that’s how TVs felt for me it just kept dragging me out of the story and the combat

@quochuyduong9421

3 күн бұрын

gacha players are brainelss and want to keep being it

@calderaxia

3 күн бұрын

Honestly ZZZ would make for a fire anime

@snackfu6709

3 күн бұрын

not even just that imagine if one out of every 3 episodes of your favorite show the animation was replaced with colored rocks that represent the characters, terrible way to tell a story

The TV system made more sense to me when I started Rally type missions because by playing as your team running around a large Hollow map with a lot of moving parts, combat stages and a final boss fight, it actually gives you a feel of what you're supposed to be controlling on a macro scale from the TVs in other usual mission types (a boots on the ground perspective). But yeah, the TV system has been way too abstracted to the point where players only see bangboos and symbols, not their characters doing story objectives. I'd much rather prefer Rally type missions for story content for this reason, even if there are parts that have to be cut out via black screens, it'd still be way more immersive.

@justkubz

3 күн бұрын

The Rally missions really stood out for me and made me wonder why they didn't introduce them sooner. I think if they had one of these early on, it would at least let players know what they are capable of/what's ahead.

@lordlubu3029

3 күн бұрын

@@justkubz Hoyo says they are making changes and focusing more on Rally over the Tv for future story chapters and may go back and redo parts of chapter 1 to be Rally missions instead of TV

@justkubz

3 күн бұрын

@lordlubu3029 that's great to hear, I think it would add to the new player experience. Hope you have an awesome weekend, gamer!

@reverie4384

3 күн бұрын

​@@lordlubu3029 do you have a source for that? I wouldn't want to get my hopes up if it's just trust me bro. Because i really do like the rally missions, and same that if they can do this, why bother with the tv at all.

@hiteshmaurya9889

3 күн бұрын

@reverie4384 it was said to in one of the livestreams

Honestly? I think TV mode would be fine if it weren't for Hoyo literally shoving dialogue every 3 steps, then dropping a tutorial in your face. It's meant to be the main character's role. They're experiencing these things from an outside perspective while remotely controlling their little rabbit. They quite literally are one step removed from the actual agents. It's probably not the best choice - but the alternative would just be a non-stylized top-down dungeon exploration with a PC menu. Hoyo simply didn't build environments big enough to make it a true exploration game, and there's no way they'll have time to before a WAY further patch. It seems pretty clear they allocated the budget to this game more similarly to HI:3rd. I don't expect it to do much more than HI:3rd did. So it's more that I expect rather than replace it with anything, if they did something to the TV system, it would just be removing it and having the visual novel dialogue between. But IMO the real problem is how often your sibling pops in to be like "LOOK OVER HERE AT THIS SPOT IT IS THE SPOT YOU NEED TO GO TO, ALSO LOOK OVER HERE THERE'S A WEIRD SQUARE HERE, HMMMMM WHY IS THAT THERE I WONDER HMMMM. OH WELL GUESS WE GOTTA GO TO THE SQUARE WE WERE PLANNING' Then you hit your first puzzle and the sibling pipes up again with "LOOK WE'RE STUCK HERE TILL WE FIGURE THIS OUT. HERE'S THE GOAL OF THE PUZZLE. LET ME ROAM YOUR CAMERA OVER TO THE OBJECTIVES WHILE I EXPLAIN THEM" Then when you complete the first step "WAIT UP JUST SO YOU KNOW THE NEXT STEP IS OVER HERE, I THINK YOU MIGHT HAVE FORGOTTEN THE GOAL OF THE PUZZLE ACTUALLY LET ME EXPLAIN THAT TOO!" It conditions you to be mashing through it so you miss everything that's actually happening.

@Drstrange3000

2 күн бұрын

I think that is my main issue with the game so far and many JRPGs like it in that it CONSTANTLY cuts the flow of the game to add dialogue and tutorials. I love stories in games, but these games do not let you play or engage with the story without constant interruption.

@twohandedaxe1212

2 күн бұрын

Same. I don't have a problem with the TV system. It's very simple yet they overexplain it. Meanwhile the combat is more complex than most people realize and the game let's you discover it yourself.

I get what he is saying , the Tv system doesn't make you feel like you playing a story, it's more like a moving puzzle way and you trying to reach the end final line. It is something new they want to try but the TV system makes it looks like a mini game. Like a mini separate game, which takes you away from what you think you are doing.

That's crazy I had no idea what happened in that TV segment either my brain just went on autopilot trying to figure out the route that get's me out of there as fast as possible. The fact there's main story attached to it has me concerned cause now I need to focus more in the future segments...

@raulmaltrain6893

3 күн бұрын

imagine having to focus in order to understand a story...

@jimmythepug6959

3 күн бұрын

i would be just skipping

@ayaya-

3 күн бұрын

the way I see it is, hoyo creates, or at least attempts to create, systems that are designed to be as eye catching and flashy as possible, they cooked with the TVs, it does its job well... it in fact does it's job so well it makes your brain tune out everything else, the bombardment of sounds, animations, sprites, the bangboos having an aneurism in the main TV, it forces you to focus on it so much, too much.

@ryrin6091

3 күн бұрын

@@raulmaltrain6893 Imagine talking about focus when you clearly couldn't focus on a word the video said.

@kelvin864

3 күн бұрын

Thats why the tv system is a total garbage system that ruin the game. Even it has beautiful animation , good asetic etc. If it is just one part, its fine. But it totall took ovet everyaspect of the game which it sucks. Zzz is doomed if this tv continues

Not just story, the tv system is taking the place of good exploration. In HSR, you have all these different worlds and locations to explore, complete little puzzles to get into different areas, etc. There is effectively no exploration at all in ZZZ because the tv system is taking the place of it.

@Indian_gae_boii

3 күн бұрын

There was never supposed to be any exploration in ZZZ lmao and even if they remove the tv they aren't going to add HSR esque areas to explore

@arnouxgaming3720

3 күн бұрын

​@@Indian_gae_boii Just goes to show how much of a cash grab this game was lmao. Just because this game wasn't "supposed" to have exploration, doesn't mean the game is better for it.

@amari7782

3 күн бұрын

@@arnouxgaming3720except the game really doesn’t need exploration tho, while I agree that the TVs are garbage they don’t need to give the game exploration At best just making the maps like closers and elsword where you can at least work with a bigger map and see the objectives would be much better

@Indian_gae_boii

3 күн бұрын

@@arnouxgaming3720 ZZZ is more of a traditional gatcha game where you play a story and then go back to charector collecting, I don't think you realise that despite being the most popular, genshin, HSR and now WUWA is an exception to the gatcha genre, even HI3 is like this where you enter various levels to beat up mobs and then leave, no exploration to speak of, except there's no TV system there which makes it fun

@arnouxgaming3720

3 күн бұрын

@@Indian_gae_boii I think that is fair to say, but in terms of making gacha games into better games overall, I think this game really should have had exploration of some sort

the problem of the tv system is the only way to connect the mc with the story because they only are teenagers with very good skills at hacking

It's insane how much improved these games would be by just telling you more story while you walk around.

@donewastingtime7939

3 күн бұрын

Pretty much how it works in every action game with this style. They could have you play a stage, and then add puzzle WITHIN the stage so mc has more "involvement" within the story. It's how other action games with this style do it. TVs were atrocious idea, whoever came up with it. It only makes you disjointed from what you are doing.

They don't have levels; they merely having fighting "rooms". The TVs are roads from one room to another room. It's lazy game design.

@leucome

3 күн бұрын

Yeah, I don't know what is going on it is getting worse for every new game. They went from fully open world in Genshin to small levels in Start Rail then actually no levels at all in ZZZ. The whole game is only a couple of rooms.

@fashyakupercent20

3 күн бұрын

​​@@leucome Moreover, the game is a whopping 50gb-117gbish in PC and 21gb in Mobile just for a small content that they provided😂

Honestly if they transform the TV section into dungeon crawler like etrian odyssey or persona,it will be more engaging i think, there's already boopa as a mascot guide and mini event story on dungeon can also be made into comic strip. But well i dread to imagine the file size of it.

for instanced combat i much rather prefer the tvs over selecting 1-1, 1-2, 1-3, etc... from a menu. i can see why people wouldnt like it tho, but im having fun. also i heard hollow zero tv system is better than the one in the story, and puzzles are more interesting

@DogPersona

3 күн бұрын

I agree, but the issue with the TVs is that they feel too disconnected from the story, if they felt more attached, such as showing chibis running and solving the puzzles. It would feel more like you’re still doing the story.

@thornszk

3 күн бұрын

Not from menu. Just copy Arknights or FGO's story nodes.

funny thing is, they could make a better stage and they proof it in rally commission mode but they want to introduce the TV system so bad to the main story and it flop.

If they played more into the television aspect being visual it would work better imo. When an event happens, it should zoom into the TV and do the comic style to supplement. My tinfoil hat says this is an experiment that hoyo is conducting with how much they can cut corners.

Honestly, the video archive is a very W feature. On the TV system, I think a cool way to go about it is to make it "seamless". For example: The proxies are using a monitor and the HDD system right? Well, why not have the "board TV" gameplay be a "minimap" on the top left corner of the screen? When you move around in-game, you can see the bangboo in the TVs moving from screen to screen.

@thornszk

3 күн бұрын

More W if you have to option to delete or redownload like in GI.

9:22 this not supposed to be why the file size is that big, It's just a replay of the cutscene that we already have, having it on the archive doesn't mean we multiplying the cutscene, it's just a replay button, all game have the cutscene file in it, but didn't implement the "replay button" doesn't mean the cutscene gone.

The way to do it for me would be: exploration of hollows "in person" with Belle's bangboo through different level instances and Wise would be support us using the TV system for things like finding out secret paths, incoming enemies, hidden treasures, etc. Add to that comic panels to help with the story telling and there you go. That way you are immersed, every character has its role and dont get that feeling of wtf is happening.

Devs said "We reduced the TV sessions", imagine that crap without a cut. Man

I actually enjoy ZZZ and you hit the nail on the head, tv system just shouldn’t be in the story

Hoyo probably spent too much money on it to change it or to remove it

@HazardTone

3 күн бұрын

Or they are just lazy to do it and slap it as it is. All the done on the tv is you don't have to manually click from the screen to screen to travel. They didn't even mention the TV in their livestream

@Julian-ml7go

3 күн бұрын

Kuro spent a lot of money on their original story too but that didn't stop them from replacing it when they knew it was bad 💀

@saltchan2

3 күн бұрын

Yea for them I bet it's a Development time saving method

@oyshikaadi9631

3 күн бұрын

@@HazardTone No, they do mention the TVs. The refer it as "board" gameplay.

@kenkaneki3873

3 күн бұрын

@@uenoe Apparantly the devs love it so that's why it wasn't removed after the 2 CBTs

Man, I loved the gameplay of ZZZ at the beginning. it looked fresh and stylish but man it gets boring so easily that I wish there is Auto to do those quests. I get that there are hard bosses later on but I literally played for 12 hours and no challenge or fun in the combat.

@DogPersona

3 күн бұрын

There is a skip button, if you didn’t know, during story, you press menu and there’s a skip button.

@kamikazeeeeee103

2 күн бұрын

@@DogPersonaWhich is funny because they only gave you a skip button for the parts of the story that actually matters, and not, you know, the yapfest of random npcs

@DogPersona

2 күн бұрын

@@kamikazeeeeee103 very true. But at least it’s easy to skip through, they should still add a skip button there.

how to fix the tv problem: the number 1 rule of story telling is show don't tell. why have a video archive? why not make it the game story? use the tv system as a menu (you use the bangboo to select the story or combat). if you click story, then you just sit back while it plays like a movie, but it would have points where you had to make choices (aka the convos you have in the game rn) the combat would be it's own thing, you use the bangboo like you do now but it's only combat when you enter an instance.

Its crazy how right you are. A pivotal, emotional moment in the story and a well written one at that, completely negated by a tedious and immersion breaking system that feels like a board game designed to waste your time

Bro I turned the game off after the Nekomata Monitor Section. That was 15min+ of that Stupid TV System...

180 Free Pull? nah, You go to Grind the whole GAMEPLAY to claim that

@jyuu6650

3 күн бұрын

They’re still free buddy you’re delusional

@heheboi9435

3 күн бұрын

@@jyuu6650 U still have to work for it, which is time consuming a lot.

@asewaaaasewaaa1695

3 күн бұрын

​@@jyuu6650 its a rewards

@LordBacon.

3 күн бұрын

Paying with playtime isn't free lol

@mirkmolon

3 күн бұрын

@@jyuu6650 2 hours of gameplay gets boring now, up to you bruh

the moment the tv start i can't wait for it to be done , yes it's new, yes it's unique, but it doesn't feel good even after doing it 15-30 times . i wish it there was a skip to the puzzle so people who want it can do it and those who don't can move ahead , maybe tokens that u can collect can make u skip 5 puzzles for the day or anything like that

The TV systems are frustrating. No doubt in my mind. The bombs mission fucks on TV is pretty bad too. It's super wonky to have 4 units getting ran over in the train. Its wonky when the bombs hit you no matter what. The bricks being breakable if open woulda helped earlier too.

that god of war comparison was perfect, they really need to implement something similar soon

The TV's are basically a 10 minute cutscene in disguise. I think the individual elements of zzz are amazing. Combat is fun (or at least i see the potential with harder endgame), the vibes of the story are amazing, and even the TV navigation would be engaging or at least fine if not for the story interrrupting me every 2 seconds, but the gameplay loop being 10 minutes of dialogue followed by 10 minutes of interactive cutscenes in disguise is just not it.

and they have the audacity to promote this as a fighting combat focus game? they even did street figther collab inspiration and shiiit and when you play the game all the time you will just spend playing tv

I can’t make it past the tutorial phase 😂 this one is not for me. I like the way they’re telling the story and the character personalities but other than that I’m basically forcing myself to play. After playing wuwa, my standard for combat is pretty high and the combat doesn’t hit for me, honestly prefer genshin combat over this and I don’t like that combat system. Then there’s the character designs, call me crazy but I don’t think it’s good. Big boobas doesn’t equal to good design (an example from WuWa; Jinhsi, small boobas, beautiful design while taoqi has massive boobas but design is meh imo) this is how most of zzz female characters look, the body proportions are way off and maybe it’s just the art style but it just doesn’t appeal to me.

I would argue the TV's are more immersive because its a representation of what a Proxy is actually seeing and doing. You aren't technically playing the raiding party, you are playing the "guy in the chair". And that's what the TV's are meant to represent.

I loved the TVs at first, but after about 2 hours, I got so tired of them.

Swap the TV system out for some procedurally generated tile sets that keep you connected to your characters and id be so down to give this game a second chance but it literally killed my will to play the story with the tv system

One thing i really hated is when the BIG ENEMY was shown walking through the TVs instead of a cutscene or in the backround of a level...........that was SO LAME to do

@raulmaltrain6893

3 күн бұрын

imagine a videogame doing videogame-like things omg!!!! -suddenly no one complains when enemies just spawn of thin air when you start a domain in genshin or wuwa??? why doen't they have an animation like, coming out of a portal (abyss enemies) from a hole in the ground (mushroom enemies) out of a smoke bomb (treasure hoarders) -suddenly no one complains when canonically in the story, none of the characters you pull are actually with you???? like wtf, that is so lame!!! i pulled diluc, but diluc is just chilling in mondstat!!!!!! why isn't it like a real game like ff7 when i get yuffie she's always with me??????? jesus, the logic some people find to hate on zzz is unreal.

@vjbd2757

3 күн бұрын

@@raulmaltrain6893 Your take gave me cancer

@treasure9342

3 күн бұрын

@@raulmaltrain6893 ........uh what are u even talking about

@Paradox8823

3 күн бұрын

Yeah, this guy really went off the rails there... I think it was really dumb too. Big bad breaking tv slots. Good comparison is when your doing the hollow zero mission and the cutscenes starts. Pretty effective showing the boss flying over head with the inspector scared out of her mind

@areyoutrippin9730

3 күн бұрын

​@@raulmaltrain6893 Thoses excuses are of the same quality as the game itself, dogshit.

Bro i wanted just to say: the agent stories in archive are actually character quests! Its the same as the companion quests in hsr! Its a bit confusing because they slapped them in the archive but they are character quests that gives exp and currency when completed ;D

Yeah for that i didn't ever try it. I'm happy just with HSR and Wuwa.

there is so much happening in the "comic" sections and "tv" sections that would have been really great as actual gameplay. having your character jump onto a train, run to the front and take it over would've been epic if you actually were doing it yourself.

“I don’t want to watch Tv, I want to fight!”

Honestly the Train Rescue bit should've been a defence challenge where you have to protect the residents from getting attacked by corrupted/vision mercenaries, that would've been so good!

The game feels like 90% visual novel, 5% cutscenes, 5% gameplay.

The problem with the video archive is that it will continue to increase in size the more stories and lore that get added in the future, as it stands the game size is already too big for a non open world gacha game in its 1.0 version, if they don't do anything about that, might as well just turn ZZZ into a visual novel game as stories would probably eat up more space than the gameplay content

W vid, I’m over here jamming to the background music you got playing at the beginning 🔥🔥🔥

1:09 I think one of the big factors for me to start playing the game was that it remembered me of Gravity Rush (It also had a lot of comics to tell the story). It's sad that it never got popular tho so they even had to close the multiplier server.

Bro, thx for explaining what happened, I thought I was pushing boxes on the train cus I didnt read the yapping during TV

The tv system taking more time than the actual combat, and that's the only thing that makes me don't want to play.

I actually like it to a certain point because it is representing the MC being playable via their proxy bangboo.

Love the constructive criticism!!

TV feels like one of those mini games like clock puzzle in hsr. But here TV is like mini game with battle room mini game inside the TV mini game

I appreciate smack making this video, cuz he's one of the few gacha CCs I think gives the story a real shot and discusses it as it unfolds beyond "damn that's crazy".

I agree with you. I don’t like the TV system thing. I just can’t find any fun in that system. It would be fine if they just do a dungeon instance or something like that.

It could be a fun system if the tv system was focused on quick puzzles (that aren't braindead easy) and making decisions around which upgrades to pick up, paths to take, etc. But it needs to be quick and snappy. Instead they stop players in their tracks every few seconds with filler text that usually explains things that are completely obvious, then have long loading screens every time you jump in and out of combat.

Nothing I can say that hasnt been said, but Zzz is a casual, visual novel experience with some ego-boosting combat. It can be fun if you don't expect more, but it is by no means a top-tier gacha. To be honest, i dont think they were going for that in the first place.

I have to agree heavily on this take. Playing through the story feels dogshit sometimes and I just don't feel connected at all, but I do like the cutscenes themselves. I am going to try and sit through some stuff that I thought was boring/uninteresting and see if the tv system is what took me out of it, or if the story just isn't for me.

Max Payne did the comic book style way back. Loved it. Max Payne had good and hard gunplay though, for the time at least. I feel ZZZ should be a full on Anime. That way I can put it on the second monitor, where it deserves to be.

I love the insight, helped me figure out the problem I had with the story. If you took out the TV system everywhere except Hollow Zero, it makes the game better and improves the story.

This is Hoyoverse that you are giving feedback to. There is no chance in hell they will ever change it. If they do, it'll take 4 years.

bro 1000% the tv stuff my brain is immediately just thinking "how quickly can i get this over and done with"

fighting game but playing with the TV and walking around talking is 90% of the game lol

i wish the levels had more substance that’s honestly probably why there is a tv system on almost every mission.

After I found out about the video archive, I just skip the story during the gameplay so I can get the TV part over with and watch everything back at the archive. It feels much more engaging that way for me, and the story made such a strong impression.

that comic book style is just tales of stuff right ? I remember berseria have one just make a manga panel into combat, into manga panel into combat, why is it so hard ...

12:33 That book cover with Grace and Koleda *HAS TO BE* a JoJo reference

@treasure9342

3 күн бұрын

A JOJO REFRENCE

@doedoel035

3 күн бұрын

Yeah I see a bit of Part 4 reference; the title on the spine of the book, as well as Koleda posing as a delinquent like Josuke

Finally a even take on the TV's. It has the bones of a fun activity but needs to be reworked.

The only reason the tv system makes sense to me is because in lore the hollow is extremely difficult to navigate without the help of a proxy or carrot(I think), and the Tv hopping is how they how they went with showing how again difficult it is to explore let alone get out from cause it constantly changes like how at the beginning billy and anby were just running in circles until we found and help them out. Not sure if Smack addressed it but yeah I only realised this during the nekomata quest with the train lol.

At first I was yelling "It's their exploration system" for the first couple minutes, but after letting you cook I agree with everything you said and didn't realize how close I was to being lost too. I actually knew what we were doing in the TV but it was because the 2nd one said something in a way that was like 'oh i shouldn't be in here i gotta gtfo' and then I realized what the tv mode even was. Prior to that I was very unclear as to what was going on in the TV system.

This gonna stay in the game forever because listening to your audience is not found in hoyo dictionary

Not a problem but one thing i dont like is when u enter a battle is says "signal lost/error" and goes dark? Like why? That feels like something u get for a "gameover"

@kenkaneki3873

3 күн бұрын

That confused me so much at first too I thought I did something wrong

@Paradox8823

3 күн бұрын

Confused me too...

@dumplings582

3 күн бұрын

it just means the party has encountered an enemy and they are going offline to engage in battle, ig it's used in place of loading screens to give a feeling of smooth transition

@amari7782

3 күн бұрын

@@dumplings582which doesn’t make sense cuz why would the proxy go offline when they can hide it even support them

@saftigerkeks5212

3 күн бұрын

its because you will now enter button mashing hell, and you have lost connection to your brain 💀

The biggest question is "is the dev gonna listen?"

@user-gl1tv9rb2w

3 күн бұрын

"They already did"supposedly.

@tsukiri_masho

3 күн бұрын

3 CBT. 3 seperate Betas where players can give feedbacks about the game. Yet ignored

@masashiyeo

3 күн бұрын

It's mihoyo. So we know the answer

@thornszk

3 күн бұрын

Depends. HSR is Hoyo game yet their devs are proactive.

@backpackpepelon3867

3 күн бұрын

​​@@thornszkHSR is an exception to the rule, I swear their devs are even reading feedback and survey from others hoyo game too just to improve their project 😂

The problem is - the TV is fundamentally engrained into the story. The MC uses the HDD to be proxy, the HDD is literally a mass of TV systems. So how do we change this fundemental?

The archives i dont think is the reason for the large size because whether a game has replayable archive or not the cutscene are still stored in the game, just being able to relpay the game doesn't increase the size.

im gonna keep it 100% real with you man, tested the game till lvl 28, it was mostly fine, a solid 8/10 game for me. im just not gonna deal with the same systems again u know. login daily to not fall behind, im not gonna save crystals and wait for good banners, farm artifacts, fish for substats, deal with a resin system and be frustrated when im not getting what i want in a very price gacha system. just to be able to clear 30 mins of endgame content twice a month. so i uninstalled it. ill keep my relationship with hoyo strictly to genshin cuz im just waiting for the resolution of the story after that im probably done with gachas altogether.

It's basically a drone pilot simulator, except you don't get to see shit happening real time, just static feedback. I heard that the Hollow Zero mode does introduce interesting mechanics to the TV function, but that might be a day 3 or 4 endeavour.

I think it would be good if it were only in The quests that specify puzzles But it's been bugging me because I really just want to get to the combat and running around the zones and having to do the TV puzzle mode every time is kind of annoying so I'm glad you're saying something and it's not just me

The tv system reminded me of the areas/instances in final fantasy dissidia. Grid like location and moving up down left right, moving into enemy tile initiate battle, getting items in tiles, etc.

Yes. That part where we escort the people w/o letting them get hit by the train is the ONLY instance where I got more than 3 corruptions. kek

This is very on-point for why I dislike the TVs so much. By themselves, they're not bad puzzles. But they are irritating trying to follow a story through them. It feels like lazy story telling, and the comic style (no matter how cool) was already very economical.

Imagine if instead of the TV system, they make a stage by stage where you will control the bangboos and do some mini games instead and the playable story characters helping you accomplish the task.

When I watched you streaming and you came to that TV system, I was super unimpressed and called it BS!

They literally could've done anything but the bopon tv, just let us explore through a cyber like dungeon with our units

@Geminosity

2 күн бұрын

Irony is, they do that a whole ton of hours later in the game in missions called 'rally missions'. I suggest you look up some rally mission gameplay so you can just sit there bewildered at why the story wasn't like that :D

Personally I disagree, I think the tv sections actually help by letting you play as YOUR character (aka the proxy) I for one would have felt the disconnect in the story whenever they praised the main character for being so awesome at their job even tho in gameplay you only ever play as the agents. It would feel like the proxy is taking the accomplishments of the people actually doing the fighting. With the tv sections you get to play as this navigater who plans and leads the operation and i think getting rid of that with out replacing it eith something would be a poor move.

Hoyo hinted on release special they will change the TV system in future patches.

@thornszk

3 күн бұрын

Which livestream? The July4 one?

Wuwa with 2 fat W's in the name and ZZZ like 😴, how appropriate. In all honesty tho I was excited but the combat is way too mid, missed opportunity.

Honestly after playing it up to almost rank 30, i think i can say this. This is a pure ADHD game, it doesn't let you do the same thing for more than 30s-1m, throws something "new" at you every interval so your "long" attention span is entertained. Pure comedy

I have to say smack this is an instance based game the tv system is the only innovative feature in a instance vased game insteaod having 1-1 1-2 1-3 Trust me the tv system isnt that bad

@Geminosity

2 күн бұрын

Except hoyo has already shown there was a better alternative: Rally missions. They're just locked so far into the game that most people quit before they get to them.

i did that mission and had no idea there was a reason for it, thanks smack for catching me up!

As I understand the MC's main role in the story, that tv system really makes sense but dang it is so tedious when you reach Inter-knot 20. The cutscenes in this game is so smooth.

Seeing the TV system being a huge part of ZZZ's overall gameplay I knew this game isn't for me. I had to uninstall on the 2nd day. It's kinda sad cuz I got Rina and the shark girl and just never play the game at all. Not that I complain but I don't want the feeling of looking at myself during the loading screen with black background and the error animation then return to TV system with everything is black again.

Project Mugen is going to be the zzz we thought we were getting.

@stefanusunicorn7483

3 күн бұрын

Any news about that game? As far as I know we only got a trailer right?

@Beeeeeewwwww

3 күн бұрын

Yeah nothing new on any socials yet.​@@stefanusunicorn7483

@treasure9342

3 күн бұрын

Thst game dropped a trailer MONTHS ago.......and dipped.....litterally 0 news since

@jimmythepug6959

3 күн бұрын

I wouldn't be hoping for any updates w that game anytime soon, netease ain't known for their communication at all.

@stylerxo3654

3 күн бұрын

Oh yeah. I guess that's a good point.

They could just had made stages maps like in HSR where you keep and eye for chests and battle the mobs and leave the tvs for the zzz simulated universe and it would had been great

I think of the TV system as the exploration in Nikke, it doesn’t make sense there as well, story and the fights are so disconnected

We came for the games we like but we stay because of you, keeping playing the games you enjoy boss.

That train section was incredibly easy to follow even with the TV bit... That said, I would absolutely prefer a different method of conveying, such as more comic panels to go with the voice acting in the tv sections, such as when doing the bits with the train. Another possibility would be to make use of the small playable areas per region, especially since it's clear that a lot of areas we can't move around in have been built for use in cutscenes.

The tv system is quite confusing, or just a lot for me, I needed a guide to complete one of the commissions. 😭 I sufferd from wuwa syndrome from how I played zzz, but slowly yet surely adjusted. I do love the presentation of how everything is layed out in the game, I love the cinematics, most times I skip the dialogue.