The problem with a veto system is that "influencers" only have to pay one member off in order to hamstring the entire organization. (EU & NATO)

@boarfaceswinejaw4516

11 ай бұрын

@@ems4884 thats a problem with all democratic institutions. but they have benefits, and if you want the benefits you better comply or you're out.

@Dayanto

11 ай бұрын

Let's not forget the UN too.

@peterfireflylund

11 ай бұрын

Same as Poland’s problem with Liberum Veto. We need to go to a system where it takes two or three members for a veto.

@mikel9138

11 ай бұрын

​@@Dayanto The UN is irrelevant

@mikel9138

11 ай бұрын

​@@peterfireflylund for that to happen everyone needs to agree to it

An important fact that the video mentions but people still miss (clickbait thumbnail doesn't help either), is that there's no way to kick an EU member state. The question is whether to put restrictions on them, not kick them out.

@alioshax7797

11 ай бұрын

Indeed. On the other hand, you can cut their access to EU funds (which only works for net beneficiary of the EU budget, France or Germany wouldn't care much), and kick them out of Shenghen or suspend them for the common agricultural policy. This basically removes most of the advantages of the EU.

@zepher664

11 ай бұрын

That's technically true, but it's not like the other member states can't go around it, like making a new treaty that is exactly the same, but excludes Hungary, and possibly Poland. If all the other members get fed up enough anyway.

@dsdgdsfegfeg

11 ай бұрын

​​@@zepher664 Thank God someone else hasn't forgotten, I've been really annoyed with all the positive Poland stuff lately that everyone has been quiet on the Poland issue (not that issue)

@elRandomTk

11 ай бұрын

@@alioshax7797 I respond to you since you seem a rational person and it's something that bothers me, still I am aware the point of your reply was elsewhere. I am an Italian, and I participate in the national sport of dragging down ourselves every now and then, still one thing I wish Europeans would understand/change their view on, it's that Italy has also been a net contributor to EU budget for a long time, yes we have our issues but we do give more than we receive.

@PointFear

11 ай бұрын

Brexit

In many cases other countries are happy with the hungary veto’s too. They just dont want to look bad, thats why they afraid to veti themselfs

@cserpakbalazs6342

10 ай бұрын

That's true, but many times the veto is a populist gesture to the voters who support to the government. If you don't veto you don't gain political capital at home in your voter base, even if another country vetoed.

@attilapocsi4381

10 ай бұрын

Ez nem az általános iskola osztályterme ahol senki sem meri feltenni a kezét...

@canosuslupus2862

9 ай бұрын

@@attilapocsi4381 Azt hiszed itt nem pofára mennek? Akkor szerinted a rasszista Szász eredetű rumán elnök, hogyan kaphatott a kisebbségek jogainak elismerésért díjat miközben olyan kijelentéseket tett, hogy felakasztva látná az Erdélyi Magyar politikai vezetőket.

@GFLMA

9 ай бұрын

@@attilapocsi4381 látod ahogy kibasznak velünk, nyilván nem akarják azt, hogy velük is kibasszanak szóval inkább bölcsen kusba maradnak

@akosturi-kiss7712

9 ай бұрын

@@attilapocsi4381 Szlovákia és Csehország is örült annak, hogy nem kell felhagyniuk az orosz olajimporttal, de szépen csendben megvárták, hogy Orbán vétóval fenyegetőzzön és a farvizen ők is megkapták a kivételt.

i think the ironic part is that Hungary threatens to leave the EU but won't actually leave because they would rather muck up shit inside the EU where they have some power than outside where they don't

@josipag2185

11 ай бұрын

Not stupid strategy

@lewis72

11 ай бұрын

"the ironic part is that Hungary threatens to leave the EU but won't actually leave because they would rather muck up shit inside the EU where they have some power than outside where they don't" - Which is what I think UK should have done.

@RazorMouth

11 ай бұрын

​​​@@lewis72 what exactly is Hungary mucking up? More like an annoying torn in the ass and pretty irrelevant. I agree though the UK was big enough to do actual damage to the EU, thank fuk it's not a member anymore. It can now embarrass itself alone in the world without embarrassing the EU.

@viva_italia1975

11 ай бұрын

From the United States of America: The breacking news from channel NCB says that, the CIA has intercepted secret information leaked from the FSB. A senior CIA officer on condition of anonymity said that Hungarian Prime Minister Victor Orban and Russian Federation President Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin in their last face-to-face meeting in the Kremlin and then in the frequent secret phone calls that followed, some of which were intercepted, they set up the plan for Hungary's exit from the EU and NATO. Now the plan is ON HOLD due to the war in Ukraine. Once the war ends and, Ukraine ceases to exist as a country, Hungary's exit from the EU will be much easier because, as Vladimir Vladimirovich said, transit through Ukraine will no longer be necessary for Hungary. In other words, transit fees, (I'm sorry Ukrainians), will be eliminated. Therefore, according to CIA sources, Hungary will leave the EU and move back somewhere in Russia. The CIA does not know the exact place, but it is assumed that it would be exactly where the Hungarians migrated 1000 years ago. Vladimir Vladimirovich awarded Victor with a piece of land of approx. 326,000 km.sq and which will look exactly like the map of Great Hungary. The CIA also has this information that, as soon as the Hungarians arrive and settle in their ancient place where they left 1000 years ago, they will no longer pay for electricity, oil and natural gas. All these goods will be offered to them for free by Vladimir Vladimirovich and the brotherly Russian people as a sign of high appreciation for the friendship he has with Victor and the Hungarian people. However, there is a great concern regarding the movers. Moving companies in Hungary are in great need of hiring movers. Help Wanted ads for the employment of movers are everywhere in Hungary. The Slovaks, their neighbors in the North, heard about this great demand for movers from Hungary and tens of thousands already applied to do this job and they said that will do the job for free! News are coming from their neighbors from the West (Austrians) and those from the South (Croats and Serbs), they would be ready to help them with tens of thousands, also as volunteers! Nothing is known about the Romanians, who are their neighbors on East side, but it is heard that they would also be available to lend a helping hand. Can't believe it? BREXIT is gone... HUEXIT is almost done... and what will be next for EU?

@KaizerRemix

11 ай бұрын

Hungary learned from Brexit.

Are you joking? The UK *wanted* to leave and it still took years of negotiations. There is zero chance of any member state being thrown out against their will. There is no mechanism through which such a move could be effectuated.

@spritemon98

11 ай бұрын

Technically brexit hasn't been fully finalized yet

@bellezayverdad

11 ай бұрын

Don't forget Hungary is insignificant in comparison to the UK in almost every parameter. It would be a much easier digestion since the EU leverage against them would be immense.

@goughrmp

11 ай бұрын

U.K. was a net contributor though, Hungry is not

@QuandaleDingle-ji2tj

11 ай бұрын

it was older gen btw the ppl that will most likely be alive in 10-20 years voted remain 18-45 voted remain but everyone else voted leave

@QuandaleDingle-ji2tj

11 ай бұрын

theres london boroughs with 70-80% not everyone in england wanted to leave

I got lost right at the beginning. How is a Hungarian law sanctioning foreigners aiding illegal migration a breach of Human rights and EU values? I also disagree with the migrant quota. If there are countries that think we need migrants and decide to not stop those migrants at the border, and countries that think we don't, than the migrants should be split only between countries supporting migration, not all countries. The proposal would likely increase the amount of illegal migrants. Not to mention there are no economical migrants who would stay in Hungary, even if Hungary accepted the proposal. That is not why they migrated here.

@alioshax7797

11 ай бұрын

It's the idea of solidarity. Which isn't just a word meaning France and Germany should throw money at Eastern Europe. It works both ways.

@swinfeflue

11 ай бұрын

@@alioshax7797 Solidarity? Germans did not ask anyonr when inviting millions of refugees into their country. Now they want quotas to distribute them "fairly" LMAO. No. You wanted them we didnt.

@kolle128

11 ай бұрын

@@alioshax7797 If there are too many migrants at Germany and France maybe they should stop accepting more instead of distributing them, so they can accept more? We need barriers for illegal migrants else there will be too many of them. It seems the idea is now to get rid of the barriers instead, which I don't think is sustainable.

@user-kh2wc8nx1f

11 ай бұрын

@@alioshax7797 Yeah but you're asking Hungary to join what they see as a suicide pact, in "solidarity". _Nobody_ thinks mass migration into the West has gone well. Even the architects of it like Mama Merkel have said openly that multiculturalism has "utterly failed", and things have only gotten worse since. You're not just wishing this evil upon Hungary, you're actively trying to coerce them into it, in complete disregard to how strongly they will feel this infringes upon their sovereignty. It's quite disgusting.

@alioshax7797

11 ай бұрын

@@user-kh2wc8nx1f Hungary's always free to leave the EU, no one's coercing anyone into anything. Don't make it sound tyrannical, because it's not. Migrants come. That's a fact. Whether it's good or bad doesn't even matter, they come and they will keep coming in the coming decades. Legally or otherwise. So far, building walls has never stopped migrants from coming, not in Europe, not in the US, and not within Africa and the Middle East. So, now, what do we do ? You wanna stop the migrations into Europe ? Good luck. It's not just a moral issue or something like that. People have crossed thousands of miles to come into Europe, they won't stop at a wall with cops. Knowing that, it is indeed unfair that some countries, namely border countries (Italy, Greece, Spain) and especially developped countries (Germany, France) have to welcome every single immigrants that come into the EU. So yes, Hungary has to do its share. Or, they leave, I'm fine with that, my taxes won't pay for Orban's administration anymore. But Hungary can't have, as we say in France, "the butter and the money from the butter". They don't want to contribute to the EU ? Why the hell should we pay for them, then ?

Until the EU can compel member states to follow EU law, the unanimity requirement for sanctions needs to be changed

@Artosk

11 ай бұрын

Just VETO any change to the VETO rules

@Sam-hm2sx

11 ай бұрын

Hungary violates no laws. There are Mlliones that like Hu gary's aporoach. Hungary is a sovereign state, the EU is only a paper tiger. Long live Hungary, that makes the miserable EU life acountable.

@Booz2020

11 ай бұрын

Let's Go Macron, Zelensky, Putin, and BRANDON 🇨🇳

@osheridan

11 ай бұрын

​@@Booz2020 Not a single one of those people is West Taiwanese

@tomizatko3138

11 ай бұрын

@@Sam-hm2sxMore like they are trying to run aways from accountability from EU😂.

The BRICS would welcome Hungary as quick as possible.

@user-jm9lq9uv7v

11 ай бұрын

Brics is a joke.

Orbán built a kleptocracy rivalled only by autocracies like Russia or Venezuela. But unlike those countries, there is no oil money - instead the financial support from EU was used for this purpose. High time it stopped.

@eEmm1

11 ай бұрын

Spot on. They're playing big when in actuality they hold no power

@gergogaal568

11 ай бұрын

@@eEmm1you mean hungary or orbán? The country is weak, but orbán is not. He can do anything and he will have his cult follow him.

@ggoddkkiller1342

11 ай бұрын

Merkel re-elected = Democracy Macron re-elected = Ultra democracy Viktor re-elected = Democratic backsliding Erdogan re-elected = Dictotarship Warlord haftar = Macron's best friend Facist Putin = Merkel's harmless exboyfriend Dictator Sisi = A democratically elected president Murderer princes and kings = Countries which are becoming democratic Hungary not wanting migrants pushing them back = Facism Greece not wanting migrants drowning hundreds of them = Democracy's struggle against illegal migrants Ukrainians fighting against oppression = The best heroes of our time Syrians fighting against oppression = Bloody terrorists Western operations against terrorism = Honorable attempts to spread freedom Turkish operations against terrorism = Brutal suppression of minorities The list goes on and on so i have to ask who exactly takes those two faced clowns seriously??? TLDR must drop it's ridiculous bias and aim for much higher neutrality...

@adambaum9401

11 ай бұрын

you just described the entire history of hungary in its variations

@Frivals

11 ай бұрын

UE elite is upset Because Hungary don't want the gay and misandrist propaganda in their country🎉 Go Hungary European people support you

I think a process which could ultimately lead to them losing all influence and right to participate in the EU while still having to pay their membership fees makes sense. They will then themselves have to make the decision to leave, or to align with rule of law, freedom of the press and other basic values stemming from the French revolution. They should attach a timeframe for this with an end date where Hungary is faced with complete internal EU isolation or to leave. This should not take more than two years from now. They have already crossed all relevant red lines and are only becoming worse.

@nhecos2998

11 ай бұрын

The thing is that already exists, but it requires the backing of all other members. And we know Poland's PiS has Orban's back on this (even if their relation has seen better days because of the war in Ukraine).

@henrybn14ar

11 ай бұрын

Freedom of the press? Lots of things cannot be mentioned.

@maghambor

11 ай бұрын

@@henrybn14ar Name one thing you are not allowed to say in the free press of the west?

@maghambor

11 ай бұрын

@@nhecos2998 This is unfortunate, but Hungary can still be treated as a nobody and frozen out. They can be ignored when they want to say something at meetings, chairmens and leaders can ignore them when they raise their hands to speak. They can be assigned places to sit at other tables. Their access cards could be restricted, topics they want to raise removed from the agendas. And their money can be held. The group photos, have them stand a meter to the side of everyone else and crop the photo. And Poland can be treated the same way. Bully them, ignore them, isolate them. Or change the rules, create a multi tiered EU and advance away from the autocrats. If they don't want to follow the rules, they can be kept on a short leash while others makes new rules to follow.

@sebastiangruenfeld141

11 ай бұрын

Western Europe already crossed all relevant red lines when they opened their borders to unlimited unregulated migration from the third world and make human trafficking legal. Now they want to force their mistake onto eastern Europe without even the slightest hint of self reflection.

It would be interesting to see what the neighbouring EU countries (in this case Croatia, Slovenia, Austria, Slovakia) would do if Hungary were to leave the EU, and how long they would stay in the EU. The incredible migratory pressure would be on them, Hungary would train the migrants to their borders and the EU would tell them to solve it within their borders. As it did with Hungary in 2015. They talk about distributing 30,000 migrants a year among all EU members at some point. There was a day when more than 10,000 arrived in one day!!! In one year almost 300.000 came! In a country of 10.000.000 inhabitants. They told Hungary to keep them inside the borders but without violence. People who do not want to stay there. HOW??? The whole EU is a mindless brainwashing machine. No wonder the Hungarian people easily see the EU as the enemy. Imagine anyone doing that to their country, town or home.

@user-jm9lq9uv7v

11 ай бұрын

Complete BS. All the migrants went to Germany and Sweden. First through Hungary and after the fence through Slovenia. This was just an opportunity for nazi fatboy Orban to score some points with his dumb redneck base.

@Szbenjaminx

9 ай бұрын

Couldn't explain it in better words. I personally experienced the 2015 crisis. Very well written comment. Could be an article in my opinion.

@hosszu2010

9 ай бұрын

Increadible migrarory pressure you mean all the Hungarians trying to leave?

It's funny when some people talk about "democracy", but if hungarians VOTE, FOR THEMSELVES, something that the EU doesn't like, all of a sudden that's not democratic :)) I don't see any equality in this tbf...

Where is news related to France wants invitation to BRICS, are you trying to ignore this news like American Media.

@bnebbid6061

11 ай бұрын

Right 😂😂

@Pasta_Pirate

11 ай бұрын

BRICS Brazil Russia India China South Africa Good luck getting that team to agree on anything.

Like any exclusive club, if you do not meet or maintain the rules/requirements/conditions, you should not reap the rewards of said membership.

@paperplane-db8qf

11 ай бұрын

Hungary hasn’t broken any conditions. If you want to get into a technicality then I don’t see how any NATO country can claim it “respected human rights”. Specifically Britain and France.

@Nubbe999

11 ай бұрын

@@paperplane-db8qf The whole video is about Hungary not eating the minimal standards of being an EU member.

@zoltan6451

11 ай бұрын

128th mountain assault brigade made from Hungarians ... not enough my family was drafted for Romania in 1941 in odessa now Ukranians draft Hungarians , Russia captured 11 prisioners of Hungarian origin and were sent to Hungary !! Thank you ! Stop the war ukranian and Russian is brother ... nord stream signed by america germany in recession america with trilions of debt ! They paint oyr country as the bad one when Hungary is working for the Hungarian people there is jewish people in Hungary imagine what would of happen if we didnt set fences ... what happened in france days ago in a Park?? Glory to a new UNITED EUROPE AGAINST AMERICA !!!! Teaching children in schools lgbt transgender ... Jesús christ ... we are the bad ones???? The treaty of trianon also was such a big genocide against us shameful that we were the most punished when the austrians dragged us into war while we lost 2/3 of land and millions of people families getting massacred ... shameful .

@paperplane-db8qf

11 ай бұрын

@@Nubbe999 video is wrong. And no EU country meets EU standards. How does going to war and killing civilians and creating a refugee crisis meet EU standards 🤡 Western Europe has destroyed the Middle East and north Africa.

@zoltanzzolt

11 ай бұрын

128th mountain assault brigade made from Hungarians ... not enough my family was drafted for Romania in 1941 in odessa now Ukranians draft Hungarians , Russia captured 11 prisioners of Hungarian origin and were sent to Hungary !! Thank you ! Stop the war ukranian and Russian is brother ... nord stream signed by america germany in recession america with trilions of debt ! They paint oyr country as the bad one when Hungary is working for the Hungarian people there is jewish people in Hungary imagine what would of happen if we didnt set fences ... what happened in france days ago in a Park?? Glory to a new UNITED EUROPE AGAINST AMERICA !!!! Teaching children in schools lgbt transgender ... Jesús christ ... we are the bad ones???? The treaty of trianon also was such a big genocide against us shameful that we were the most punished when the austrians dragged us into war while we lost 2/3 of land and millions of people families getting massacred ... shameful .

EU with every year looks more like republic in star wars.

The Empire doesnt like who is not obeying to fool commands.

@suvi7641

10 ай бұрын

nobody is forcing hungary to stay in eu. they can leave any time they want

@nandorgyuris2400

10 ай бұрын

@@suvi7641 and who forcing the EU to make laws against the community.

@Kalimdor199Menegroth

10 ай бұрын

@@suvi7641 The EU should just stop overstepping its boundaries and stop trying to force a power change in member states. This is supposed to be an union of equal, unity and diversity being the governing value. But from what we have saw in the past few years, this unity and diversity is only accepted if the values are uniformly left-wing. EU today is USSR without tanks. When Brussels gets tanks, 1956 and 1967 reloaded.

@cyan_oxy6734

9 ай бұрын

​@@Kalimdor199MenegrothEverything is done with approval of the European court of Justice. Hungary signed contracts to uphold democratic values and they're not doing it. Hungary is free to build a fascist ethnostate they just have to leave the EU first. Why should the EU hold up their end of the deal when Hungary isn't upholding theirs?

@TheMinhoX

9 ай бұрын

Hungary is a joke. It’s not democracy for few years

If a country doesn't meet the standards they had at the time of joining, the country should try just one year without EU money and see if they can't elevate their standards again

@zoltanzzolt

11 ай бұрын

LOOK AT HIS SHIRT😂😂😂😂😂

@yaya-xb2ip

11 ай бұрын

@@zoltanzzolt looked, what next?

@blady7717

11 ай бұрын

There is no such thing as EU standards, you mean GERMAN standards??

@zoltanzzolt

11 ай бұрын

@@yaya-xb2ip next is the continued propaganda and agenda of pointing fingers and trying to Ruin every european country as the european governments are currwntly doing with mass migration like america invades middle east and then europe welcomes everyone with open arms when these people wants to harm europe , then nord stream blows up and is signed by america then there is leaked documents showing how ukraine had plans of destroying the gas pipeline that Hungary uses for gas wich is a serious issue , then there is 150.000 ethnic Hungarians Living in Ukraine that are taken out of their rights and used as cannon fodder against russian artillery same as Romanians Slovak and Rusyn minority , then there is the issue of sweeden having a very serious problem with te*rrori*sts (all western europe for the matter) and the most important issue THE TREATY OF TRIANON

@leonmori3339

11 ай бұрын

@@blady7717 Its either Germany dosen't do enough or Germany influences everything it can't be both. Let me guess youre polish? because polish propaganda always shoots against them to stabilise the country and the polish people are to stupid to see it.

I remember when Orban made comments that "Europeans shouldn't breed with Asians". Now, ignoring all the racist stuff in there, aren't Hungarians descended from Asian steppe nomads? Does someone need to give Orban a history book?

@jobda1211

11 ай бұрын

to be fair hungarians come from uralic people in close Syberia

@chrisbrightmoon

11 ай бұрын

as much as i hate orban, i have to add that 1000 years have passed. Hungarians have the same dna as the people ariund them.

@la7dfa

11 ай бұрын

Spot on

@alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723

11 ай бұрын

Indo-Europeans mixed with them to be exact, but yes, however, there are also North Afrikan blood lines in many of the Mediterranean Eurpeans, so in honesty it nor really a bother till they start showing in our faces, What do w really want to go back the Hasburg purity system,

@riskinhos

11 ай бұрын

do you really think that historic factuality has any influence in populism? not sure who's more stupid. the racists or people who don't understand that is pointless

Hungary doesn't want immigrants then that's their prerogative. One can see what they've done to countries that welcomed them with open arms.

@mikw1809

10 ай бұрын

Hungary are using the immigrants as scapegoat to remove their own citizen's human rights. The English government are doing something similar

If Orban doesn't like it, he can just pack up and leave to their ancestral Magyar homeland in Russia.

@gaborrajnai6213

11 ай бұрын

You mean the Danube dear? You know how many times Herodotus wrote, that Scythians ar e living near the Danube? Three times. Do you know how many times he wrote about the french? Nada.

@viva_italia1975

11 ай бұрын

From the United States of America: The breacking news from channel NCB says that, the CIA has intercepted secret information leaked from the FSB. A senior CIA officer on condition of anonymity said that Hungarian Prime Minister Victor Orban and Russian Federation President Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin in their last face-to-face meeting in the Kremlin and then in the frequent secret phone calls that followed, some of which were intercepted, they set up the plan for Hungary's exit from the EU and NATO. Now the plan is ON HOLD due to the war in Ukraine. Once the war ends and, Ukraine ceases to exist as a country, Hungary's exit from the EU will be much easier because, as Vladimir Vladimirovich said, transit through Ukraine will no longer be necessary for Hungary. In other words, transit fees, (I'm sorry Ukrainians), will be eliminated. Therefore, according to CIA sources, Hungary will leave the EU and move back somewhere in Russia. The CIA does not know the exact place, but it is assumed that it would be exactly where the Hungarians migrated 1000 years ago. Vladimir Vladimirovich awarded Victor with a piece of land of approx. 326,000 km.sq and which will look exactly like the map of Great Hungary. The CIA also has this information that, as soon as the Hungarians arrive and settle in their ancient place where they left 1000 years ago, they will no longer pay for electricity, oil and natural gas. All these goods will be offered to them for free by Vladimir Vladimirovich and the brotherly Russian people as a sign of high appreciation for the friendship he has with Victor and the Hungarian people. However, there is a great concern regarding the movers. Moving companies in Hungary are in great need of hiring movers. Help Wanted ads for the employment of movers are everywhere in Hungary. The Slovaks, their neighbors in the North, heard about this great demand for movers from Hungary and tens of thousands already applied to do this job and they said that will do the job for free! News are coming from their neighbors from the West (Austrians) and those from the South (Croats and Serbs), they would be ready to help them with tens of thousands, also as volunteers! Nothing is known about the Romanians, who are their neighbors on East side, but it is heard that they would also be available to lend a helping hand. Can't believe it? BREXIT is gone... HUEXIT is almost done... and what will be next for EU?

@user-jm9lq9uv7v

11 ай бұрын

@@gaborrajnai6213 Oh wow, talking about prehistoric hungarian amoebas?

Hungary is not facing any immigrant issues like the rest of the eu and their policy makes sense ..

@pglanville

11 ай бұрын

Nazi

@mastermindd

10 ай бұрын

We have more and more problems with migrants too, that's just not often talked about in the government-dominated media

Unpopular opinion: Orban is right not letting migrants into his country. If Ursula is so keen on inviting foreigners, she should host a few of them for a month, and then let's see if her opinion changes.

@agaaga8762

11 ай бұрын

Racja 👍

@patternrecon5271

11 ай бұрын

Open borders for Israel

@puhistagram

11 ай бұрын

" inviting foreigners" ;D When you guys fall so behind EU is a kind of opposite idea of isolation

@andrasbradacs6016

9 ай бұрын

Unpopular fact: Orbán is still letting migrants into the country with residency bonds (well-known terrorists as well) and his son-in-law is dealing with these bonds. The 90% of the media is in their hands and the country slowly but surely goes back to the medieval eras.

@sdfrasvxc2913

9 ай бұрын

@@patternrecon5271 isra what? shitrael? whats that

God bless Poland and Hungary for protecting Europe!

@beatinspector

10 ай бұрын

hahahahaha :) :) :)

@elwont

10 ай бұрын

@@beatinspector what's your problem?

@beatinspector

10 ай бұрын

@@elwont exactly :):)

@ettoreatalan8303

9 ай бұрын

Is Poland still supporting Putin's buddies in Hungary?

An “electoral autocracy”? So in other words a democracy that you just don’t like.

I don't agree with Hungary on everything but it really seems as though they and Poland are being shut out for not following groupthink. I think it says something about the EU that other perspectives are not tolerated.

@Maplelust

11 ай бұрын

exactly. they know what not being part of the hives leads to. they're smart to stop Hungary before they go full terrorist Putin.

@quasii7

11 ай бұрын

The group thinking: democracy, rule of law, human rights

@FILOZOFUS87

11 ай бұрын

@@quasii7 The group thinking is connected to the war. European countries are really emotional - they have enthusiasm to fight in a war against Russia by Ukrainian soldiers. .. War - it is an extraordinary thing, some Europeans have never seen a war so they are really exited now. .. Orbán wolu llike to stop the war - and the other Europeans are afraid of losing their new entertainment because of Orban. .. They are upset on Orban.

@grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic1139

11 ай бұрын

@@FILOZOFUS87 Still you take your revenge on common people of Hungary and Poland. Only boosting anti-EU narrative. Hungary has ties to Putin, it is regrettable. But they are a sovereign country. Without Poland, Ukraine would have fallen. We are the second most important allies after the US. We were first to deliver tanks, jets, when Germany said it is against their morals to deliver weapons into war zone. Germany blocked sanctions, fought till the end for Nord Stream 2 and Russian gas. France was also reluctant to help. And now they're showing their moral virtues. You want to punish people because current goverment is not perfect in some areas. We took millions of refugees but WE'RE supposed to pay for illegal migrants in Spain, etc, because their border guard sucks and lets everyone in. But real war refugees don't count for some reason. I'm increasingly done with EU. Go ahead, kick us out, your socialist policies are to no good anyway. You would let us die like in 1939 anyway. Military allience with the US is enough, we can develop economy on our own, without a car ban, regations on CO2 in poor people's house and other ideological crap.

@katamattyon

11 ай бұрын

@@anthonysmith7014 it's going very far to suggest they look like Putin's puppets. Orban is much more favourable of Putin than the rest of Europe but there's no reason to believe his perspective was in any way forced.

All you need to do is to withhold ALL budget payments.

@tnickknight

11 ай бұрын

Corrupt Polish leaders protect them

@reyhaz

11 ай бұрын

in the mean time, the government sucks the money they want to steal for themselves out of it's peoples' pocket, enlarging inflation and poverty

@ggoddkkiller1342

11 ай бұрын

Merkel re-elected = Democracy Macron re-elected = Ultra democracy Viktor re-elected = Democratic backsliding Erdogan re-elected = Dictotarship Warlord haftar = Macron's best friend Facist Putin = Merkel's harmless exboyfriend Dictator Sisi = A democratically elected president Murderer princes and kings = Countries which are becoming democratic Hungary not wanting migrants pushing them back = Facism Greece not wanting migrants drowning hundreds of them = Democracy's struggle against illegal migrants Ukrainians fighting against oppression = The best heroes of our time Syrians fighting against oppression = Bloody terrorists Western operations against terrorism = Honorable attempts to spread freedom Turkish operations against terrorism = Brutal suppression of minorities The list goes on and on so i have to ask who exactly takes those two faced clowns seriously??? TLDR must drop it's ridiculous bias and aim for much higher neutrality...

@zoltan6451

11 ай бұрын

128th mountain assault brigade made from Hungarians ... not enough my family was drafted for Romania in 1941 in odessa now Ukranians draft Hungarians , Russia captured 11 prisioners of Hungarian origin and were sent to Hungary !! Thank you ! Stop the war ukranian and Russian is brother ... nord stream signed by america germany in recession america with trilions of debt ! They paint oyr country as the bad one when Hungary is working for the Hungarian people there is jewish people in Hungary imagine what would of happen if we didnt set fences ... what happened in france days ago in a Park?? Glory to a new UNITED EUROPE AGAINST AMERICA !!!! Teaching children in schools lgbt transgender ... Jesús christ ... we are the bad ones???? The treaty of trianon also was such a big genocide against us shameful that we were the most punished when the austrians dragged us into war while we lost 2/3 of land and millions of people families getting massacred ... shameful .

@zoltanzzolt

11 ай бұрын

128th mountain assault brigade made from Hungarians ... not enough my family was drafted for Romania in 1941 in odessa now Ukranians draft Hungarians , Russia captured 11 prisioners of Hungarian origin and were sent to Hungary !! Thank you ! Stop the war ukranian and Russian is brother ... nord stream signed by america germany in recession america with trilions of debt ! They paint oyr country as the bad one when Hungary is working for the Hungarian people there is jewish people in Hungary imagine what would of happen if we didnt set fences ... what happened in france days ago in a Park?? Glory to a new UNITED EUROPE AGAINST AMERICA !!!! Teaching children in schools lgbt transgender ... Jesús christ ... we are the bad ones???? The treaty of trianon also was such a big genocide against us shameful that we were the most punished when the austrians dragged us into war while we lost 2/3 of land and millions of people families getting massacred ... shameful .

If the E.U kicks out Hungary how will they hold onto Poland and Italy? The Problem is not the nation states of Europe but the the imposition by the E.U of their so called " European values" onto the nation states. European peoples do not share many of these values

Are you saying Hungary is a dictatorship because it doesn't abide the rules set by Brussel for the citizens of Hungary?

It's mindboggling that the idea of a single traitor state or a foreign agent never came to mind when the EU's rules regarding unanimity were decided upon.

@dendradwar9464

11 ай бұрын

Because no-one anywhere would have joined .. and given the polls across Europe now the level of EU regret is rising and rising fast ..

@thornelderfin

11 ай бұрын

And it doesn't even have to be entire state... it's just wannabe-dictator and his supporters from one small country and they can veto everything.

@yoannbelleville7763

11 ай бұрын

To be fair, the system made sense when the EU was made up of only six countries (Germany, France, Italy, Netherlands, Belgium and Luxembourg) and few people expected it to expand so much so quickly. An attempt to establish an EU constitution with an absolute majority system was made but France and the Netherlands voted against it due to a mix of nationalism and misinformation.

@juanmillaruelo7647

11 ай бұрын

They did, but De Gaulle boycotted it (the "empty chair crisis") so they relented and returned to unanimity.

@dannylive3000

11 ай бұрын

@@dendradwar9464 bot

The downside to these grand coalitions. Seriously though, when you group this many countries all together; all with differing interests, issues, concerns and priorities, vastly different cultures, peoples, histories, traditions and the like, into some grand project like the EU, you're bound to get problems like this. Today it's Hungary and Poland. Tomorrow? Who knows? Is it reasonable to expect them all to see eye to eye on everything? Is it reasonable to ask that if a much bigger and more powerful country like France or Germany were the one out of step with the rest, whether there would be such tumult? Finally, one must evaluate the benefits that the troublemaker brings versus the negatives and what the consequences might be for expelling or ostracizing them. Very often, you find yourself in a partnership or alliance with another nation who for some reason, is a constant pain in the butt. You often find yourself asking - "is this really worth it?" Prime example - Turkey and NATO. So the questions become 1) what CAN I do about this and 2) what are the possible ramifications if I do? Even if you could expel Turkey from NATO or Hungary from the EU... which you can't, so why are we even talking about it?... what other nation do you suppose would be right there like a dog at dinnertime waiting to scoop them up before the ink had even dried? Sometimes there is no reason to stay aligned with a country other than to keep them out of the orbit of another much worse one. But that's very often a damned good reason, despite how much of a nuisance they might be in the moment.

@eoinoconnell185

10 ай бұрын

Exactly. Too many moving parts will always increase the chance of breakdown. So either the EU have to account for it's consistent inevitability or stop complaining when it occurs. It's also funny how the UK was told leaving was impossible while Hungary is being threatened with it.

@ricardomadleno564

10 ай бұрын

It has its positives and downsides.

@cyan_oxy6734

9 ай бұрын

​@@eoinoconnell185there's no mechanism of kicking out a country. It's simply not possible. The UK was never told leaving is impossible. They were told that their ridiculous demands would never be met.

@fannishfanning160

9 ай бұрын

And with different values as well.

@jutswheezie

5 ай бұрын

The EU has a legal framework, any country that wants to be a member signs up for it = 'Copenhagen Criteria'. The main criteria are the free-market economy, a stable democracy and the rule of law, and the acceptance of all EU legislation, including the euro - so basically IMO any member state who brakes this agreement should be expelled. Bye bye Hungary

An EU member cannot be kicked out BUT the EU can put a lot of financial restrictions on Hungary. When their wallet is under attack, people tend to become more reasonable. The European Commission decided on December 2022 it would hold back all 22 billion euros of EU cohesion funds for Hungary until its government meets conditions related to judiciary independence, academic freedoms, LGBTQI rights and the asylum system.

@ttom3923

10 ай бұрын

unfortunately, the autocratic politians feed off internal money and ruZZian money , so EU money withholding does not affect them. and since they control 99% of all media , the average citizen is fully brainwashed and does not see the suffering caused by the corrupt government. so there is no resistance at all.

Short answer, yes. Long answer... yes.

I love the (again) in the title.

Hungary uses EU as a scapegoat yet does not want to leave. LEAVE THEN.

@fungo6631

11 ай бұрын

Because Hungary knows it will turn into Venezuela if it leaves the EU.

@Robert-xy4xi

11 ай бұрын

The more that leave the sooner the EU will unravel!

@vocassen

11 ай бұрын

@@Robert-xy4xi Idk public support for EU seems to be doing pretty well rn

@egrikomrade

11 ай бұрын

You don't understand Orbán's strategy then. Orbán doesn't hate the EU, but since 2010 he used the tactic of setting up a common enemy or scapegoat that he can use to blame all the bad things on, thus uniting our brainwashed populace under this cause. At the same time, they want to please 2/3 of the population with actually keeping our country at running, but that requires EU money, so at the same time, he doesn't want to leave, and he knows that western politicians are only throwing bad words at him, because not that many things can be done to stop him. Yea sure the EU witholds 30B euros from us, but the brainwashed populace doesn't realize WHY. So basically without EU money, we'd starve right away, but he needs a common enemy.

@AFFoC

11 ай бұрын

That's fvckng rtrded.

It's sad that so many people form opinions without knowing the situation... I think this says a lot about the freedom of the media and the pluralism of opinions in certain countries. Greetings from Hungary!

@tiborkote

11 ай бұрын

Never mind, they are in the main river want to wash down whole continent with all thing they could.

@abelnicolae

11 ай бұрын

For a hungarian to write about other countrie's "freedom of the media".... it's both laughable and pathetic.

@tiborkote

11 ай бұрын

@@abelnicolae its funny to say free speach in western media when there are not allowed to speak against mainstream there, who is laughing mate?

@ultimaratio7373

11 ай бұрын

Yeah, it's so sad, can't understand why people are saying bad things about Hungary for absolutely no reason. Really?! Who are you kidding with this bs? Hungarians constantly talk shit about the EU and support Putin, but somehow you are the victims. Just stop pretending that you are something you are not, like the famous hungarian politician Joszef Szajer in Brussels.

@gaborrajnai6213

11 ай бұрын

@@ultimaratio7373 You are lying, Hungary does not support Putin, thatswhy you cant support your claims with any evidence!

Protect the children!

It's not only because there is no legal mechanism. The EU can't kick Hungary because of geography. Hungary is the only EU country connecting Romania, Bulgaria and Greece with the rest of the EU. Without it, any products or people would have to travel threw non EU territory to get to these countrys, which would be an absolute desaster obviusly.

@josipag2185

11 ай бұрын

Greece has Italy and Croatia actually as in the good old days of the La Serenissima.

@yurik8468

11 ай бұрын

It is good if the question is not about now, but about the next 10 years. then Ukraine?

@TheJoBlackos

11 ай бұрын

Well, we need to evaluate what actually this brings on table to say it will be disaster. I am not convinced we take advantage of the geographical location right now. If this is the case, it may bring some inconvenience, but all the countries you mentioned have access by sea, less convenient but still a good way to transport goods

@Micha-qv5uf

11 ай бұрын

@@TheJoBlackos Bro have you looked at a map before writing this? Romanias and Bulgarias cost are on the Black Sea. They'd have to get through the Bosporus and the Mediterranean Sea. Their entire Export and Import would have to go through Turkey. You really think thats no big deal?

@ordemeprogresso727

10 ай бұрын

I love Hungary, they like to be independent from everyone else, and are only focusing on themselves, they are not here to pleas UK and US interest, mad respect from Brazil, we need leaders like Viktor Orban here, long live Hungary

Yes, thanks for asking.

That is the point, Hungary does not prohibit Asylumseekers. Hungary has an issue with NGO's facilitating the illegal entrance into a country. That is not a human right.

The question isn't really of "should", but "can it even". Nobody seems to have considered it might be necessary to do when they wrote the treaties, so there's no such option.

@zoltan6451

11 ай бұрын

128th mountain assault brigade made from Hungarians ... not enough my family was drafted for Romania in 1941 in odessa now Ukranians draft Hungarians , Russia captured 11 prisioners of Hungarian origin and were sent to Hungary !! Thank you ! Stop the war ukranian and Russian is brother ... nord stream signed by america germany in recession america with trilions of debt ! They paint oyr country as the bad one when Hungary is working for the Hungarian people there is jewish people in Hungary imagine what would of happen if we didnt set fences ... what happened in france days ago in a Park?? Glory to a new UNITED EUROPE AGAINST AMERICA !!!! Teaching children in schools lgbt transgender ... Jesús christ ... we are the bad ones???? The treaty of trianon also was such a big genocide against us shameful that we were the most punished when the austrians dragged us into war while we lost 2/3 of land and millions of people families getting massacred ... shameful .

@zoltanzzolt

11 ай бұрын

128th mountain assault brigade made from Hungarians ... not enough my family was drafted for Romania in 1941 in odessa now Ukranians draft Hungarians , Russia captured 11 prisioners of Hungarian origin and were sent to Hungary !! Thank you ! Stop the war ukranian and Russian is brother ... nord stream signed by america germany in recession america with trilions of debt ! They paint oyr country as the bad one when Hungary is working for the Hungarian people there is jewish people in Hungary imagine what would of happen if we didnt set fences ... what happened in france days ago in a Park?? Glory to a new UNITED EUROPE AGAINST AMERICA !!!!

@PCDelorian

11 ай бұрын

​@@zoltanzzolt in 1941 Ukraine was part of the USSR a country that is considered to have continued as the Russian Federation, meanwhile Ukraine is an independent born out of resistance to the former Soviet Republic.

@zoltanzzolt

11 ай бұрын

​@@PCDelorianof course they went independent as Stalin was georgian he didnt care about russians in the second World war thats why more rhan 30 million people died , ulranians are same as russians the same nation but separated because of circumstances of the era

@melindacadarette3447

11 ай бұрын

@@zoltanzzolt Obviously they are not.

One thing we should all take out of russia's war on Ukraine is that accountability is extremely important. People (and countries) need to be responsible for their actions. Hungary, russia and other countries with deep imperialistic ambitions should be dismantled into smaller communities with no central government. Any government they would have would inevitably become tyrannical due to polular demand.

@maddogbg7571

11 ай бұрын

Agreed, countries and leaders that ignore their own people's problems to fund the UkraNazis, should be held accountable

@ReekyCheeks

11 ай бұрын

@@maddogbg7571 NPCs

@P.G13

11 ай бұрын

@@ReekyCheeksfool…

@Defiant1940

11 ай бұрын

@@maddogbg7571 Oh please, not another Kremlin sock-puppet. Listen up, Ukraine is a SOVEREIGN nation with a DEMOCRATICALLY elected, centre-LEFT government and led by a RUSSIAN-speaking JEW who lost many of the older generation of his family in the death camps run by the REAL Nazis. May I make another suggestion? Now that you know the truth perhaps you should re-evaluate your life and stop blindly spouting war criminal Putin's propaganda, now that you know he's been lying to you from day one.

@khattab343

11 ай бұрын

If it’s that important then why are there no sanctions againts Usa or an arrest warrant on Bush for all the crimes Us commited in Iraq and Afganistan?

You need to understand both parts, but in the end, if it doesn't work out, something must be done. Hungary has the right to set its own laws, we're not the United States of Europe, even in the USA, each state has their own laws, parliament and constitution. If laws are imposed by a foreign parliament, they are in their right to reject it, whether we like it or not. The European Chapter of human rights, which is the chapter the EU invokes when speaking about LGBT rights hasn't changed its wording since it was written in the 1980s, at that time, gay marriage was illegal in all member states, and in countries like Ireland, homosexuality was a crime. So you can understand Hungary when they call BS on it. But at the same time, if all member states, but one have the same mindset, then they cannot be stopped by a rogue member. If the vast majority wants these migrant quotas, to re-interpret the chapter of human rights to include LGBT rights and Hungary doesn't want to, then something radical must be done, because it's not doing any good to both sides.

@vendels4154

9 ай бұрын

migrant quotas will be the demise of the whole european continent. Anyone not seeing this is simply blind. It will throw back EU into some 3rd world barbaric crime riddled mess

@davidens1216

9 ай бұрын

And the worst is that the new liberal waves to push these pro lgbtq+ "laws" aren't even working, bcause its doing a huge distaste between ppl in the US already....

@louise_rose

5 ай бұрын

Excellent points, but the EU elite tends to just change the rulebook all the time, and often with little real control. decisive oversight or informed consent from the parliaments of individual member states. in practice, very much is decided through summit backroom deals, ready-made negotiations, political IOU:s or just strong-arming against smaller member states like Hungary, Austria or Sweden.

The orange sign at 5:40 ish in front of the PM says: 'peace and security' . It is a clip from re-election during the war in Hungary's neighbourhood.

I as a Hungarian can say that Orban doesn't equal to Hungary. He built a system where manipulation of the public made it possible to keep him in power, but many are aware of how malicious and cynical he is.

@bcm-n7244

11 ай бұрын

Just like his Role Model from Russia !

@scottwales9178

11 ай бұрын

If that's the case then maybe Hungary shouldn't be part of the EU.

@static2223

11 ай бұрын

I had a suspicion that this was intentionally done. deliberately ruin EU relations and use that as a justification for ones own political narrative.

@gregmchale5011

11 ай бұрын

well then Citizens need to take Orban to account, not doing so means Hungarians are no different than Russians. Hungary is well on its way to being a Russian asset working to cause chaos in the EU and NATO.

@Zzzooooppp

11 ай бұрын

Orban’s party beat a coalition of EVERY SINGLE OTHER PARTY including the actual Nazis to the right of his party. He’s popular in Hungary.

EU: Do as the unelected commission tells you, or you're not democratic.

@poopscoop9016

10 ай бұрын

The commission is appointed by the European Parliament which is elected and the European Council which literally represents the sovereign member states’ elected governments. If the commission is undemocratic then so is literally every prime minister

Dont kick Hungary just work with them and come to an agreement.

@peterdanielantal352

9 ай бұрын

Say it to our prime minister, best dictator in the world 💀

@gaboreszes4395

9 ай бұрын

dont cry because you lost the election@@peterdanielantal352

It is NOT up to Eurokolhoz but to Hungarian People how the Hungary is governed! And they gave Orban a STRONG mandate! Which means they WANT him to do what he does! We may disagree with his ways of doing things, but he has support of his People!

@gaborrajnai6213

11 ай бұрын

Well, they gave him a strong mandate, because they thought that he can manage the EU. If he cant, thats another story.

@ultimaratio7373

11 ай бұрын

Wrong! As a member of EU are obligated to follow its core principles, such as fair elections, free media, independent judiciary etc. If Hungarians don't agree with basic tenets of the EU, they should leave and maybe join Ruzzia and Belarus. That would probably be a better fit for Hungary as those countries have more in common.

@ysy662

11 ай бұрын

@@ultimaratio7373 And the elections were FAIR! But the eurocommies did not like the outcome! TFB!!!

@ysy662

11 ай бұрын

@@gaborrajnai6213 As a Pole ... we took a much different approach to Russia! But we STILL respect the choices that Hungary made although we may disagree with them! EU starts to resemble the homo-communist oppressive regime rather than the UNION of free nations! It is no more no less than the wet dream of the German IVth Reich!

@gaborrajnai6213

11 ай бұрын

@@ultimaratio7373 Well, when you will be members, then you will have a word on this my Ukrainian friend. I strongly advise you to respect your minorities, and honour your agreements with us, because as long as you dont do it, you wont be an EU or NATO member. That was told you fair and square a decade ago, and no matter how hard you try to circumvent us, it will lead you to nowhere.

It's just funny: The unelected Ursula von der Leyen (President of the European Commission) next to the autocrat Orban. Yeah right, but please tell us about elections ;-)

@deutschgaming4109

11 ай бұрын

Ursula was elected by the European parliament lol. Just cuz we don't have a president like the US doesn't mean we an autocracy or should be compared to one bro.

@tiborklein5349

11 ай бұрын

Orbán also wasn't elected. In Hungary you vote for parties, not people. He's been appointed prime minister by the ruling Fidesz party that has the majority in the parliament. This system is called representative democracy.

@sheogorath1374

9 ай бұрын

@@deutschgaming4109 Being voted in by politicians is as anti-democratic as you can get.

Hungarian guy here. Reading comments like these makes me so sad. "Kick them out" you say, "withold the payments" you write, while you guys seem to forget two things at least. First one: Hungary joined the EU in 2004, and the rules we agreed were quite different then. No centarlized foreign policy. No compulsary quotas or other forced manipulation of population policies for example. Btw yes: Hungary has a different approach to this question then most Western states who colonized half of the world for centuries... Second one: those payments are not gifts! There was an agreement in 2004. We give you our market, let you buy (and destroy) our production capacities for merely cents for you, and most importantly: let you leach the most qualified part of our population (doctors, engineers etc). And IN EXCHANGE: we are helped with regular payments to fall into line with you. And now, when you got what you want from us you say: "Leave, if you don't agree with us!" Reminds me of an empty can you want to throw in the bin to start with a new one. Yes, poor Ukraine, I mean you.

@grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic1139

11 ай бұрын

I completely disagree with Orban's stance on Ukraine and his changes to legal system, media, etc. Still EU's solution to bully Hungary into submission on EVERY topic will backfire hard. They must learn they can't treat EU members like that. Greetings from Poland.

@kristofkorodi6584

11 ай бұрын

@@grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic1139 Feeling this kind of general attitude I'm not so sure of it. Hungary's spine was broken a few times in the past when we wanted to have our own ways... About Orbán's regime you're totally right however! But the problem is you see, that all the options we could elect instead of him are even worse. And at least he tries to stand for Hungary's interests in international debates. Regarding even the war in Ukraine... I know our countries have quite different approach about this topic. But I sincerely hope that the historical friendship between Poland and Hungary will endure and survive!

@grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic1139

11 ай бұрын

@@kristofkorodi6584 I have a similar feeling about polititians in my country. Still I'm gonna vote for opposition because PiS is getting too powerfull and corrupt. We need some change in power. Even if I despise most of opposition as well. Thankfully it's not a simple block but there's lots of options. All of them suck but some more than others. We have radical right in opposition, left wing, center-left (former govt), center-right which is allied to former govt, some farmer parties, etc.

Hungary would be doing themselves a favour if the eu we’re to kick them out.

If Hungary does not like Eu rules and reulations then it should leave or be kicked out

Let's mention this Hungary is officially present at the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum. The only country in the EU... although there also are some big Austrian figures.

@zoltanzzolt

11 ай бұрын

128th mountain assault brigade made from Hungarians ... not enough my family was drafted for Romania in 1941 in odessa now Ukranians draft Hungarians , Russia captured 11 prisioners of Hungarian origin and were sent to Hungary !! Thank you ! Stop the war ukranian and Russian is brother ... nord stream signed by america germany in recession america with trilions of debt ! They paint oyr country as the bad one when Hungary is working for the Hungarian people there is jewish people in Hungary imagine what would of happen if we didnt set fences ... what happened in france days ago in a Park?? Glory to a new UNITED EUROPE AGAINST AMERICA !!!!

@Bayard1503

11 ай бұрын

@@zoltanzzolt You really need to learn how to formulate your thoughts into sentences... otherwise you sound like a blabbering madman. In 1941 Romania and Hungary were allies together against Russia so who cares in which army they fought?? Also in WW1 Austria-Hungary conscripted Serbians and Romanians and had no issue to send them to fight against Serbia and Romania. People living in Ukraine no matter their ethnicity obviously have to fight for their country... Everyone wants peace, especially Ukraine who is being destroyed village by village but it's not up to them, it's Putin's doing. It's not reasonable to ask Ukraine to give up 20% of the country and sacrifice like 8 million of its citizens for a couple of years of peace until Russia recovers and attacks again. Would you give up Debrecen just for the sake of peace if you were attacked? Anyway, Orban cozying up to Putin is despicable and we're not going to forget it.

@sandorkaroly4140

11 ай бұрын

​@@zoltanzzolt bro you realy est those propaganda of the Orban regime. Somehow always America and EU, never Russia and China ti blame. Weird that there is no news about the destruction in Ukraine or war crimes, where in other countries there a re videos and photos of it. Even in Romania was. This regime always make enemies that does not hit back. USA, EU the West, homos, Soros, LMBTQ and so on. The list is never ending. And the narrative is the same like in Turkey, Russia, China, Belarusz or in North-Korea. Such a shame that a country that was betrayed in WW1 became a betrayer. Makes me cry. A hungarian from Transylvania.

@quuaaarrrk8056

11 ай бұрын

Austria’s case is pretty sad too. Our right-wing party has always been flirting with Putins Russia (literally, he was even a guest of honour at the wedding of our foreign minister 4 or 5 years ago), but the dominant centre-right party also strives to move towards an Orban-modell of government. Luckily, we at least have enough of opposition to this to keep quite stable for now.

@zoltanzzolt

11 ай бұрын

🇭🇺🤝🇷🇺

Simple answer: By is own rules it's impossible to kick-out a member state.

@TLDR News EU sugestion for a video. There is an open petition on European Comission to connect all europeans capitals by high speed train. What are the chances of this becoming true and at what price? Will the benefits outcomes the price tag? Can they compete with planes? I think these are good questions that might be worth a video.

@___alessandro.337

10 ай бұрын

Up

I am Hungarian, and I can confidently say that I hate Hungary's politics.

L T-shirt tho

I understand originally why Poland & Hungary had the rebellious pact. Don't support it but understand their thinking. Now with Hungary wanting to work with Russia and Poland so massively against Russia, I'm unsure why they are still supporting each other? Surely Poland supporting Hungary is now contradicting their anti Russia stance?

@JesterEric

11 ай бұрын

Poland wants Lvov back and Hungary wants Transcarpathia. Its a good cop and a bad cop act but at the end of the day they both would secretly like a break up of Ukraine.

@davidty2006

11 ай бұрын

Last i checked Poland ditched hungary for ukraine. Hating russia takes priority.

@asasdsaasda

11 ай бұрын

Hungary wants transnistria? What are you smoking? Did you open a map and check where transnistria is?

@konanpl8936

11 ай бұрын

@@JesterEric No the f..... we don't want Lwow back! We want see Russia losing this war and eventually splitting away like USRR. Dont listen russian propaganda ok?

@JesterEric

11 ай бұрын

Transcarpathia

Like Britain, Hungary wants their cake and to eat it too. They want EU access, the economic benefits but don't want to follow the rules. They should kick them out. Unfortunately Poland will never allow it as stated. I wonder if the average Hungarian citizen would prefer to follow the rules rather than leave the EU? It was never addressed. They could be kicked from NATO. Why should we give them the umbrella of protection?

@transylvanian8437

11 ай бұрын

we?😅 are you an American? Otherwise I don't see what protection you give.

"Europe is angry with Hungary" Latest news: water is, in fact, wet

I firmly believe its up to every country if they want to swamp their country with third world migrants or not. I live in Sweden. I live with the consequences of immigration every day.. so does my countrymen. For the rest, Hungary has placed itself as a pariah within EU. Their time will be short if they stay on this course.

@zoltanzzolt

11 ай бұрын

We survive for millenia we will be ok without the union

@patternrecon5271

11 ай бұрын

Open borders for Israel

@justsamoo3480

11 ай бұрын

@@zoltanzzoltYeah you survived, but as someone who lives close to Hungary and whose family witnessed the Hungary in 20th century, I really don’t think you should be that confident in yourself

@zoltanzzolt

11 ай бұрын

@@justsamoo3480 well as a Hungarian in Spain seeing how western europe is turning i stand by my opinión Hungary is well Led and could be better with Russian ties and real values .

@zoltanzzolt

11 ай бұрын

@@justsamoo3480 128th mountain assault brigade made from Hungarians ... not enough my family was drafted for Romania in 1941 in odessa now Ukranians draft Hungarians , Russia captured 11 prisioners of Hungarian origin and were sent to Hungary !! Thank you ! Stop the war ukranian and Russian is brother ... nord stream signed by america germany in recession america with trilions of debt ! They paint oyr country as the bad one when Hungary is working for the Hungarian people there is jewish people in Hungary imagine what would of happen if we didnt set fences ... what happened in france days ago in a Park?? Glory to a new UNITED EUROPE AGAINST AMERICA AND EU !!!!🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇭🇺🇭🇺🇭🇺🇭🇺🇭🇺🇭🇺

Crazy how one country can derail all other countries decisions. That shouldn’t be allowed.

@AndreFonseca_pt

11 ай бұрын

Two countries. As you can see Poland continues to unanimously vote in favor of Hungary. This was always the case before, and they repeated the action by voting against stopping Hungary from taking the presidency.

@VaucluseVanguard

11 ай бұрын

Then the EU becomes an empire and nation states like Hungry cease to exist. Pretty well sums up why most people in the UK who voted fro Brexit, voted for Brexit. Either you believe in nation states or you believe in empires.

@_o..o_1871

11 ай бұрын

@@VaucluseVanguard There are alternatives lol

@Horizontal77

11 ай бұрын

All the stupid decisions to make the truth complete.

@bennymuller3379

11 ай бұрын

​@VaucluseVanguard that sounds exactly what Europe should be. Not an Empire but a united Europe under one Banner, fuck nationalism

No country can be slave or subordinate to others as all are independent, are sovereign and self reliant more so when Democracy. All Govt. are independent to decide whatever is in their interest of people not what is desired by others against their national interests.

@chigchong2805

5 ай бұрын

nice but when they fuck over everyone then they can leave. the eu is a close knit union that cant function if everyone has different views if they wish to be independent then let them they stay in eu.

The EU should ask themselves the following questions first : 1) Why VETO-system ? Why does the EU blame countries from making use of this loophole ? 2) What exactly is EU-law ? If a country joins the EU after a long auditing and approval process and agrees to the existing EU-law, is this country bound to accept new regulations passed, after this country joined ? F.e. immigration quota ? 3) Is the EU legislative prepared to face political changes in countries, not compliant to the original EU-philosophy ?

@cyan_oxy6734

9 ай бұрын

Your first question directly answers your second one. The veto system gives every country a chance to object and if they don't object they're bound by the law. 3 Is basically what's happening. Cutting them from EU funding is the best option.

@sightsandsoundsofaviation

9 ай бұрын

@@cyan_oxy6734 3... is not realistic, as long as the "veto" system is still in place. It enhances shabby compromises and hidden deals behind the curtains.

@krivdaa9627

9 ай бұрын

Because it is how Democracy should look like: respecting minority opinions. Isn't it?

@ccc_the_painful_truth

8 ай бұрын

Vetos are so inconvenient aren't they? I wonder why we have them? 🤣🤣 (Look up "tyranny of the majority" )

@sightsandsoundsofaviation

8 ай бұрын

@@ccc_the_painful_truth LOL... speaking exactly of a government, bashing and banning minorities from society. Finding the mistake of your logic ?

Brexit shows what happens if you leave the EU. Orban wouldn’t want that !

@well-blazeredman6187

11 ай бұрын

Yawn!

@sylvainldgo7361

11 ай бұрын

Yes, and so do the others far-right winged political parties in Europe. Previously, they would have no complex to propose leaving the EU, but since Brexit happened they realized how complex it is and how important and impopular the impact on the economy would be. It is way easier to just be a recurring inconvenience in order to keep the money...

@danielseelye6005

11 ай бұрын

Keep in mind that The Coof and lockdowns really skewed things there. If a country didn't faff about like Westminster did and stuck to it, there's a real likelihood it could work better than Brexit did.

Don't become a member of an anti smoking society and start to smoke later on...and than be offended the other members are angry with you.

@paperplane-db8qf

11 ай бұрын

If you change the rules midway then of course you can be angry. Why should Hungary admit the same amount of refugees as France, Germany, previous Britain, etc when they hardly participate in NATO aggressions? Hungary is a sovereign country btw and has complete right to protect its national security and admit / decline non EU citizens.

@--jan--

11 ай бұрын

@@paperplane-db8qf The rules are not changed half way. If you you don't want to live up to the same norms, laws and rules as the rest does, please leave. Don't expect civilised countries to finance your little wannabe autocratic Putin and his cronies.

@justinmillette9110

11 ай бұрын

@@paperplane-db8qf Hungary, as a sovereign country, also has the complete right to make an article 50 declaration that they are leaving the EU. And the EU, as a values-based organisation, has the complete right to shit on one of their members that has betrayed those values.

@zoltanzzolt

11 ай бұрын

​@@justinmillette9110😂😂😂 we also have a complete right to join BRICS set russian military bases chinese militsry bases turkish military bases nuclear weapons 😊

@zoltanzzolt

11 ай бұрын

​@@paperplane-db8qfmain thing of migration is that we have ✡ we protecting them from nazi EU

You need to look at von der Leyen's corruption background. HOLY COW, it's actually insane.

@franciscouderq1100

10 ай бұрын

At minima A serious impartial and serious link is required , please provide it

Hungary is acting as a Russian “Oblasti” inside EU and NATO

Was the quota system part of the EU treaty which Hungary joined? It sounds like it was a later addition and an external compulsion. The UK left the EU over such impositions beyond the scope of the EU treaty. Maybe more who disagree with the EU policy should follow suit and also leave.

@gaborrajnai6213

11 ай бұрын

No it wasnt. Im not with Orban on thatone, but I can tell you that it wont work. These people dont want to come to Hungary, and I dont want to hunt for them on the raillines if they want to leave. If they want to go to Germany or Sweden, and they got their residence in the EU then they should be free to go.

@ettoreatalan8303

9 ай бұрын

The EU does not need loudmouthed freeloaders. If Hungary does not want to leave the EU, Hungary must be forced to do so.

If the Eu had taken action earlier, Orban never would have been able to go as far. The same is true of Kaczyński in Poland. The EU needs to maintain its standards. Shame on us for not having prepared for such an action by a member 🤬🤬.

@gigiopincio5006

11 ай бұрын

yeah i see what you mean, but what could they have done without intervening in a state election?

@maddinek

11 ай бұрын

It's a shame the EU has two autocracies in the Union... (Poland and Hungary). Impossible!

@devilwarrior9566

11 ай бұрын

​@@maddinek 😢

@BS-vm5bt

11 ай бұрын

This is why majority voting is so important and more federalization.

@Bayard1503

11 ай бұрын

They ignored it for over a decade... they only started to take notice when the Orban regime actually began to steal billions of EU funds. Not only that but they refused to prosecute even obvious guilty people because they were politically tied...

🤔 Imagine if 🇪🇺EU's Qualified Majority (55% members / 65% population) applied in 🇬🇧 on 23rd June 2016 🤔

Hi Ben. I really love your presentation/hosting of this channel - in fact over time I have come to prefer it slightly over Jack's, who I always thought was the soul of the channel and therefore irreplaceable as a front man... BUT... Your prounciation of foreign words is usually pretty bad - and sometimes just totally mangled. 6:35 you pronounce dutch "Meijers" which sounds something like MAY-yers as MY-jers which is wrong with both the vowel and the consonant! I appreciate it is very hard to do foreign pronunciations reading the text on the fly. Maybe just try having them put english phonetic representation into the teleprompter? To get the pronuncuations just put the word into Google translate under "dutch" (or whatever the sourcce language is) and then press the "speaker" icon below. It doesn't matter if Google has a translatiion or not. It's minor in so many ways - but its also like nails on a blackboard.

The EU won't rip itself apart for a temporary leader

@--jan--

11 ай бұрын

It't taking a bit long and he skewed the electoral process.

@SakisKotisis

11 ай бұрын

Indeed, Ursula's gone in 2 years

@MinkieWinkle

10 ай бұрын

Too late.

The people in every EU country should always have a referendum vote right on very important decisions made by the EU that imposes major changes on a country's government right to decide certain issues for their country as more and more power is being distanced from a country's government and a country's people.

We are getting there.

THEY SHOULD KICK THEM OUT YESTERDAY

I would feel like all the hate speech laws would go against what was lade out in article 2. You can have mass protest in France and fighting between government agents and that's fine. But country saying they don't want to take in more immigrants that's crossing the line.

@tanaymishra7333

11 ай бұрын

So a country trying to police its border and reducing the no. of foreigners coming in is wrong? How so? A sovereign country has full right and responsibility to priorities the good of it's citizen rather then foreigners

@yorkerold

11 ай бұрын

Yes, the Orban regime is blatantly breaking EU laws.

The EU bureaucrats are far too intrusive. If they would learn to live and let live, to accept cultural differences, then there would be no need for all this drama.

@DommTom

11 ай бұрын

If anything Orban should be the one to learn "live and let live". Or just leave the EU.

@kovacsadam9801

10 ай бұрын

@@DommTom But personally. 75% of Hungarians would like to stay and not leave because of a populist lunatic.

@___alessandro.337

10 ай бұрын

​@@DommTom Orbán who should leave the government !!!

@DommTom

10 ай бұрын

@@kovacsadam9801 Then oust this lunatic. Or show him your discontent. Hungarian free speech is not yet lost.

@NisiCaloponis

10 ай бұрын

very well said, but unfortunately the eu elite and core states showed their true faces, it is all corruption, colonisation and conspiration.

Absolutely

So it’s not a common market a trading block ???

The EU never considered, hmmm lots of our countries are pretty young democracies, maybe there’s a chance they could backslide and take advantage of our system

@chinguunerdenebadrakh7022

11 ай бұрын

It was a concern, but IIRC it was considered their democracy would better develop inside the EU than outside.

@TileBitan

11 ай бұрын

they have considered that and they take it into consideration on every admission. Joining the EU implies the enactment of reforms in pro of human rights, democratic values and equality of opportunities, which work to undermine reactionary and extreme ideologies. It has worked decently well and we are many countries, but the risk isn't always 0. There's also always been some american pressure to incorporate eastern block countries before they were completely ready for it

@SP95

11 ай бұрын

They already did.

@thereita1052

11 ай бұрын

2004 was a different time

@joeyjojojrshabadoo7462

11 ай бұрын

Don't forget the EU is a young democracy as well. It was only founded in 1993. Before then the common market was just that. A single common market. Some countries want to take it further others think it's already gone too far and want to go back to being a "simple" economic union.

"Democracy is only when my side wins" lmao

@dharmagall9082

11 ай бұрын

The journalists who works in the Hungarian public media who get yelled by their boss because they wrote an article were they are embarassing informations about the government. Allow to introduce ourself. Also the candidates for the primeministership got just 5 minutes of interview on the public tv to present their program before the 2022 election.

The rules should be amended so that one nation can’t hold the whole hostage to their contrary position

@LSmoney215

11 ай бұрын

Yu remember last year when Hungary was stealing eu funds? EU fined them 8million euros. They should kick Hungary out cus he only loyal to Putin

@FILOZOFUS87

11 ай бұрын

And in this case Hungary should leave the EU and get a status like Switzerland and Norway.

@ravenmoon5111

11 ай бұрын

@@FILOZOFUS87 or maybe just be on their own.

@FILOZOFUS87

11 ай бұрын

@@ravenmoon5111 Free trade and free movement through the borders - for these Hungary joined the EU, not for the money. .. The money, given by the EU made Hungarian population unequal. How, to whom this money to distribute? Why must landowners get money from the EU? There are no just rules or clear rules or the rules are broken in the old EU members, too. .. So the situation of unequality became worse in Hungary after joining the EU.

@ravenmoon5111

11 ай бұрын

@@FILOZOFUS87 that isn’t my problem. All I originally pointed out it that they should not be able to defy the entire EU or NATO for that matter. Change the Rule. Change their status or boot them out. I personally could not care less

The EU has been very very hardly exploiting Hungary. That's how it is. It's not all bad, but the push is harder and harder. Western companies are buying out more and more Hungarian big companies and producers, and also ruining the free market, lobbying heavily against it. From things like Szerecsen Chocolate, just a delicacy, till country-scale producing sugar and tin can factories. Look up what happened to the Hungarian sugar for example.

Yes yes, out of NATO as well, and I’m sure Putin will give him a nice position in the Duma.

@ggoddkkiller1342

11 ай бұрын

Merkel re-elected = Democracy Macron re-elected = Ultra democracy Viktor re-elected = Democratic backsliding Erdogan re-elected = Dictotarship Warlord haftar = Macron's best friend Facist Putin = Merkel's harmless exboyfriend Dictator Sisi = A democratically elected president Murderer princes and kings = Countries which are becoming democratic Hungary not wanting migrants pushing them back = Facism Greece not wanting migrants drowning hundreds of them = Democracy's struggle against illegal migrants Ukrainians fighting against oppression = The best heroes of our time Syrians fighting against oppression = Bloody terrorists Western operations against terrorism = Honorable attempts to spread freedom Turkish operations against terrorism = Brutal suppression of minorities The list goes on and on so i have to ask who exactly takes those two faced clowns seriously??? TLDR must drop it's ridiculous bias and aim for much higher neutrality...

@Valamicsatorna

9 ай бұрын

It will be much better than the LGBTQ+++++++++++++ west

Ultimately its not a federation (yet), so despite what western EU states may think of eastern governments they are still independent states, however, in saying that member states should still meet their obligations according to the treaties they signed.

@davidkanizsai9914

11 ай бұрын

I guess you are not aware that it is the Eastern European member states who are trying to push forward the EU to be more decisive, and actually the Western European members (and of course Hungary) are the ones trying to hold it back. Do you know why? Because all the Eastern European members were occupied and bullied by the Soviet Union/Russia, and they know (except again, Hungary) what a grave danger Russia is to European security. Your argument is like the Soviet Union propaganda from the '80s.

@Me-ui1zy

11 ай бұрын

@@gavasiarobinssson5108 But they aren't? Are you saying that the only Hungary is allowed to determine whether or not they are following the rules. And that the EU isn't allowed to comment on that? Insane position

@gavasiarobinssson5108

11 ай бұрын

@@Me-ui1zy They can say whatever they want. But if some EU institution will make a ruling on the matter, superceding Hungary, then Hungary is just an occupied province.

@krashme997

11 ай бұрын

@@gavasiarobinssson5108 That reasoning doesn't make a shred of sense. Hungary wasn't forced into the EU, it joined it on its own free will, and by doing so agreed to its rules and obligations. It can also leave whenever it wants, owing that the internal conditions are met. It's the same principle of any functioning democracy, you have to abide by the decisions of a judge, and by the votes of the majority. Except that for Hungary, they can't be enforced on them, but benefits can be taken away from them if they decide to only respect the decisions which benefit them. Sounds fair to me. How is that any similar to an "occupied province"?

@italo-celtic354

11 ай бұрын

I also think this is a result of disaffection by Eastern European countries with Germany and France, constantly trying to dominate the European context, especially (generally, not always) Germanic-speaking countries often following the latter two’s lead, which don’t necessarily get the cultural context of Slavic, and other Eastern European cultures, with (in my opinion) this cultural disconnect also hindering as much agreement between the two spheres, with Southern Europe kind of in the middle, depending on country

I am Hungarian, living in the Uk for nearly a decade now, Ihave my own little family here, no plans to move back there. I never voted for Orban, he is a sly and very clever, veteran populist politician. He was one of the young socialist just like everyone before the dissolution of the USSR. His education was financed by Soros and he turned his cape as we say before 90, when the Russian started to show weakness... He was a young liberal, against the socialists... when the socialist party after 90 started to do the tough and right thing, setting up the country for a brighter future through a very painful budget he seized the opportunity and won the election...Then he got the lead as a PM and he got a taste for power. He lost after his first term and lost again, he was never the same...soon he turned his cape again and became a Christian conservative and turned his party with him. The big crash in 2008 forced the socialist gov to do the tough and right thing again and he seized hia opportunity again, this time he knew he won't let it slip away, he got lucky and got 2/3 and changed the constitution and the electoral borders etc... He made sure his party could never lose another election basicaly. And he won 3 terms since... This is his 4th terms. Yhe only way the EU can get him is through money.

@HungaryBased

10 ай бұрын

I am Hungarian, I know many people moving back to Hungary. Statistics also prove me right. Stay in the UK ;)

Yes he should be kicked out different values Hungary booted out asap

A bunch of Brits talking about what should the EU do in itself. You are out, you wanted to be out. Please deal with your own business.

Yes they should kick them out.

@drewwar9344

11 ай бұрын

​@petrzalkai Well dude Tell your people to get their shit together Organize mass protest. Force your government into submission force them to follow regulations Make your president's life a waking hell until he complies Millions of people should camp in front of Parliament. Keeping him trapped inside until He does the right thing Make it completely impossible for him to leave And cut the water and power to the building If the people fear it's government that's tyranny but if the government fears its people that's democracy

@mikedebruyn

11 ай бұрын

@@petrzalkai That's democracy. Do not make your problem mine like you are doing now is what i would say to any Hungarian. Just ask yourself how you would reach Russia now that Ukraine wont be that friendly with them and the other countries surrounding Hungary are all in the EU.

@graceneilitz7661

11 ай бұрын

@@mikedebruyn There is no way to do so. And frankly the EU needs to decide if it’s a supranational Union or a union of states in one country. Is the EU aiming towards becoming one country or not? As things like this only become an issue in highly politically integrated unions like the EU. For example Hungary’s actions wouldn’t be a big deal in ASEAN, or the African Union because they are not highly integrated.

honestly I hate that my country (Poland) is so unsupportive of the EU but I certainly hope that the PiS party changes their minds and actually becomes a good democratic nation, not a borderline fascist one. I genuinely want to stay in the EU because otherwise we'd be pretty fucked

Hungary is pretty fine.

removing hungry from NATO would indeed send a signal, but is it the right one the moment you remove a member is the moment no member is safe from removal it would be better that they reform NATO to remove the veto majority rules that if more than 3 countries object then it has to be debated again but upon a second vote it moves to the rule of 5 , if 5 or more countries object then it has to be reworked (democracy ain't perfect but it's fairer than most systems)

Unfortunately it is difficult to be gentlement with SOAB

Doing that will gravitate Hungary to Russia!

not functional democracy? they have tv channels with news with pro west and pro east channels, while my country slovakia has only tv channels who are only pro west . does that mean we are even worse at democracy? why did you not include that in slovakia video? lol

How tolerant of them.

@Micha-qv5uf

11 ай бұрын

Tolerance has and should have limits. The hungarian government is stealing money from the EU and supports a Terrorist state that commits war crimes. I really wouldn't want the EU to tolerate that.

Yes.

There should be a possibility to make a popular vote in the whole EU, that could make such decision.

@maxmax-se3ic

10 ай бұрын

Who do you think you are to tell another people what to do?

@niu9432

10 ай бұрын

@@maxmax-se3ic Exactly opposite - that'd be all EU citizens, including myself, that'd make the decision. And I'd have only one vote - same as everyone else. Why would we let a minority keep most of us hostage? Who do they think they are? ;) And this is not the only thing I'd like to have under a popular vote in the EU. I'd gladly make more decisions by means of direct democracy. That includes mayor decisions EU makes.

@Kalimdor199Menegroth

10 ай бұрын

@@niu9432 Why should we let someone not Hungarian decide what is best for Hungary? Would you let someone that is not from your country tell you what you should do? I think not. If you have treated Hungary as an equal partner, rather than an inferior one, you wouldn't be in this situation.

@niu9432

10 ай бұрын

@@Kalimdor199Menegroth So leave the EU just as Brits did. Simple. As far as I'm concerned You can even leave NATO and join CSTO. Couldn't care less.

i like hungry and hungarians, the foods good the people are good, you can walk the streets at night and they even know the difference between men and women.. astonishing 😂

Hungary will never forgive losing 2/3 of the country at Trianon treaty. And the country is atm 90% rightwing

@rolandb.1866

10 ай бұрын

Definitely not 90% but sure.

@attilahalmai4590

10 ай бұрын

Yes, the West deteriorated our 1000 years country!