"We all hate globalism, let's band together as international leaders"

@Hardcore_Remixer

Ай бұрын

After the West banded together for marxism 😅 Edit: "You'll own nothing and you'll be happy." Accept to support LGBTQ or we'll isolate you (coercion in American, Canadian, UK schools). Don't talk back to Justin Trudeau or your bank account will be frozen. Looks like liberalism no longer bring as freedom to everyone but only changes the balance.

@javierititin

Ай бұрын

Theyve been saying that since the US left Iraq bro.

@objectdefiance4027

Ай бұрын

What do you expect? Fascism is an Internationalist Ideology.

@hungrymusicwolf

Ай бұрын

As much as I dislike globalism these "leaders" are just using people's dislike of it for their own benefit.

@dererik9070

Ай бұрын

​@patagonianpaint "Liberalism is almost ending" -conserviatices coping since the beginning of time

The funniest thing was Turkey ratifying Sweden's NATO bid so quickly, that it caught Orban completely off guard, despite promising not to be last. Orban was sucking up so hard to Erdogan, just for him to throw him under the bus in the end 😂

@user-uj7jo8zm5y

Ай бұрын

Türkiye anılınca hemen gelirim. Türkiye'yi düşürürken birçok defa düşünün.

@tamdang8346

Ай бұрын

Lel 😂😂 US is pressing him hard with sanctions and witholding of funds from eu

@Joey-ct8bm

Ай бұрын

Nothing is funny about Hungary in my EU. He's now putting Chinese agents on European soil. He needs to be stopped.

@danielsurvivor1372

Ай бұрын

Turkey W is surprise for sure but a good one. Seems like he's more legitimate than Orban 😅

@RunawayTrain2502

Ай бұрын

Yes, because nothing increases your prestige as a strongman more than dunking on another strongman. These things aren't so much alliances as powergames. See also: Molotov-Ribbebtrop Pact

So in summary of EU part, Orban needs right wing parties but right wing parties do not need him?

@snake21ab

Ай бұрын

@jabloko992

Ай бұрын

If you want to know who's going to lose the global struggle of any given period, just look to which side Hungary is on, that's your losing side. Hungary has been a consistent loser for centuries, we literally cannot win, it's almost a curse.

@tamdang8346

Ай бұрын

​@@jabloko992poor kid blaming his own ancestor

@gamingchamp6728

Ай бұрын

​@@jabloko992..... If that is true then I guess we as a species are all cooked

@gaborkovacs9644

Ай бұрын

The ideological base of western "right wing parties " are mostly left wing ideologies. From the perspective of the Hungarian right,there are no any real right wing party in Europe similar to the Hungarian right. Most of them adopted the unnatural and unscientific made up LMBTQ rights,transgenderism , they are obsessed with multiculturalism and the vision of a carefree welfare state. They are mostly right wing by name,full with absolutely weightless career politicians who doesn't make a stand for any right wing values because the so called " independent" left wing media,their political opponents and the idiotic celebrities cancelling them and their " career" immediately. So everyone can say that Orbán is isolated, because he's not, he just doesn't waste his time for the current western political elites, because Orbáns Hungary needs trading, business,it needs factories,it needs real work. From the West we only can get idiotic woke work ethics and ten thousands of illegal immigrants from the third world. We don't want to suffer the consequences of the idiotic ideologies of western societies, but we need competitive industries, which are less and less in the West. The sad reality is that the EU and Europe in a very short term is literally dead,in every way. Biologically,economically and culturally.

Losing his Polish backer in the EU Parliament might also leave him vulnerable to more formal censure. He seems dangerously close to entering the "find out" stage...

2023 in Hungary: - In January, bread inflation was almost 82%, food inflation was over 48%, general inflation was 26.2%, three times the EU average! - In the first quarter, real wages fell the most in Hungary with a 15.6%, which is 4 times of OECD average - In July our money lost 36% of its value in 2 years due to inflation !!! - In January, Lőrinc Mészáros, Orban's main strawman increased the monthly tolls by 72% after he bought the 35-year motorway concession - Lőrinc Mészáros bought a yacht for 27 billion forints, which is almost 11,000 years of average Hungarian pension. Mészáros's wealth increased by 150 billion forints in a single year - The Matolcsy, the head of central bank (MNB), bought an apartment in New York for 14 billion forints, which is equivalent to 5608 years of average Hungarian pensions. Meanwhile, the MNB has accumulated losses of HUF 2400 billion - The Orbán family's visible! wealth reaches HUF 100 billion, Orbán's father built a mansion in Hatvanpuszta for 10 billion forints - The cows on János Lázár minister's stud farm got waterbeds for HUF 3 billion from the state! - In 2023, Romania overtook Hungary in GDP per capita, - In 2023, Bulgaria overtook Hungary in per capita consumption, making us last in the EU in this respect too. - Hungary has the 2nd lowest average wage and minimum wage in the EU ! - The Dear Leader has finally found the magic weapon against inflation: he just had to fire the leading statisticians of the Hungarian Statistical Office, put them under the Rogán-led propaganda ministry and the single-digit inflation was achieved...! In 2023, the consumer price index was still 17.6% and food inflation 25.9%. - In 2023, growth (-0.9%) was the 3rd worst in the EU - 700 billion forints spent by the government to buy the Vodafone Hungary and give it away to Orban's stooge (equivalent to about 280,000 years of average Hungarian pensions) - 2021 foreign human traffickers were released from Hungarian prisons in 2023 (official explaination: keeping them in prison is too expensive) - There are already 100,000 Asian migrant workers in Hungary, who are undercutting the wages of Hungarian workers, with their numbers increasing by about 1,000 a month - 40% of the Hungarian population run out of money by the end of the month, with no savings - The Hungarian birth rate has fallen to an all-time low - OTP survey shows that 94 out of 100 young people do not want to work in Hungary ! - 125,000 Hungarians already work in Austria - Half a million Hungarians have disappeared in 10 years, the country's population is below 9.6 million, at 1953 levels and falling - In 2023 the budget deficit was 4593 billion forints , about 6.5 percent of GDP, more than double the 3 percent accepted by the EU, the Hungarian state paid the largest interest burden after the national debt in the EU to GDP (4.3%), the interest expenses amounted to HUF 3,500 billion, which is equivalent to 1.26 million years of Hungarian average pension, meanwile GDP growth rate was -0.9%.

@a.p1675

Ай бұрын

Lot's of stats.....when will Hungary join the Turkish Union and go east of the Urals is the most important question!

@editorrbr2107

Ай бұрын

Holy hell.

@attilakovacs2231

Ай бұрын

@@a.p1675As the greatest democracy, Hungary has observer status in the Organization of Turkic States (OTS) since 2018, and is in strategic partnership with many of the memberstates.

@a.p1675

Ай бұрын

@@attilakovacs2231 well that is why I asked.......how are your throat singing skills Atilla? Have a nice trip...

@PeterPeter-pr2hi

Ай бұрын

I agree with all of the points as a Hungarian, but let’s be absolutely fair….. the migrant workers are not an Orbán thing. This is happening all throughout Eastern Europe as more and more people leave for the West, and I doubt the opposition would fix that. Now, it’s fair to complain about the fact that our government makes the amount of people leaving for the West even higher, but I feel like our obsession with foreign workers nowadays is entirely ignoring that virtually all of Europe, ignoring some small Balkan nations, are like this. Poland, Romania and Czechia also started this trend recently, and as long as there’s globalism and capitalism, foreign workers will go to your country. It is what we Hungarians do as well, just with the West.

Allowing China to have its own police stations in Hungary? Is he crazy?

@pervertt

Ай бұрын

Unfortunately not. Chinese policemen overseas = Chinese spies.

@Ok_yes_its_me

Ай бұрын

China has been running undercover police stations out of Chinese restaurants in the UK. They used the premises to spy on and bully Chinese people working in the UK. In theory these were shut down last year.

@cidie1

Ай бұрын

Isn't that what canada is allowing as well? and some secret stations in the us.

@alfoldmapping5504

Ай бұрын

He only allowed Chinese policeman to do patrol in Hungary.

@Plevins

13 күн бұрын

China has police sstations in most eu countries, hungary is just one that regulates it so they can control what the chinese do.

What do you mean "alleged" corruption? There's no doubt.

@sonicmeerkat

Ай бұрын

It's just so they don't get sued by government representatives. They'd win but it'd be a hassle of time and money.

@dannydxm

Ай бұрын

Would agree with all the points made in the video regarding this if it wasn't for the EU clearly ignoring all the other corruption from other EU countries when disbursing those funds.

@sogerc1

Ай бұрын

@@dannydxm I mean look up the corruption perception index. Even the leading country, Denmark, is only at 90%. It's when you go against EU values like democracy, human rights, single market then the EU will find ways to sanction you.

@transparent6842

Ай бұрын

@@sonicmeerkat Wait until 2026 and then they can say it(Anti-SLAPP law EU)

@williamalexander9485

Ай бұрын

@@sogerc1😂😂EU human rights and democracy in Africa, what a joke.

A word from a hungarian, as for the battery plant in Debrecen, local politicians and civilians were 99% against the idea and was forced upon them to accept it. Theories suggest that the plant will be there support the already under construction BMW factory that will produce 3 series EVs.

@user-oz9fp2gs3t

Ай бұрын

As hungarian I have to say sadly, you are 100% right! The majority of hungarians, like my self are not suporting orbans politics. Unfortunatly with a 2/3 majority in parliament he was able to change the voting law, this makes it possible to rule the country even with 1/3 of the votes! And of course they brainwash the under aducated people 24/7. @@angelicaflanagan3483

@radiantdragon3789

Ай бұрын

@@angelicaflanagan3483 Hungary is above the 2% GDP Militairy spending, It doesnt need USA protection ;) Thats not the problem here...

@hybridwafer

Ай бұрын

A battery plant and by extension a BMW EV factory doesn't sound like the worst thing ever. On the other hand, maybe I heard wrong, but did she say having Chinese police stationed in the country? Sounds bonkers.

@magyararon6918

Ай бұрын

It dosent matter if they are against it or not. They will keep voting for Orban anyway, maybe lose few percent, thats all. Debrecen is one of the most pro-Orban city in hungary, they voted Kósa into power multiple times in a row image that...

@tomorrowneverdies567

Ай бұрын

(I copy from another comment of mine here) I am from Greece, and all my acquaintances including myself want the immigration of people with fundamentally less good phenotypes to Greece to stop. But there is no party that offers that. How is Greece a democracy then in your opinion? Orban has the biggest approval rate of all EU leaders. I hope eastern european countries leave the EU and form an economic union of their own, and do not cooperate with countries that import less beautiful people. ❤🤍💚

That tinder animation was top notch lol

@thomasjohnson2862

Ай бұрын

Which part of the video?

Hungary cannot be kicked out of the EU and NATO but if all other countries ask Hungary to leave. Then it will be very embarrassing to stay.

@paul1979uk2000

Ай бұрын

Technically, they can be kicked out if 26 EU members vote to kick them out, but I think it makes more sense to strip Hungary of it's voting rights in the EU, that would make it far harder for Orbán to obstruct the EU, which in turn would isolate Hungary far more in the EU, and it would also make Hungary far less useful for the likes of Trump and Putin, as well as China, which they only care about Orbán because he has powers to obstruct decision-making in the EU, so strip Orbán of that power and he will likely lose friends from all sides without having to kick him out of the EU, that might be enough for the people of Hungary to wake up and give him the boot, either way, Hungary wouldn't be a problem after that. If the EU were smart, they would do this before the elections because even thought there's a rise of right wings that are unlikely to support Orbán, that doesn't mean all of them would support stripping Hungary of it's voting rights., so if the EU doesn't get a move on, it might miss its chance after the election.

@moonwind6303

Ай бұрын

Putin, China and Trump does not think it is emabarrasing to have Orban like a trojan horse in the EU and NATO.

@michaelmanning5379

Ай бұрын

Consider the Simpson's episode in which Homer joined the Stonecutters. He made himself so annoying the other members quit en masse and set up a new secret society, the NoHomers.

@sonneh86

Ай бұрын

The EU needs to get rid of the unanimity principle

@Pekka.Pekka.1296

Ай бұрын

Orban is begging money right now. Or rather blackmailing the EU. While licking Putin’s arse and selling out the country to China (they even called in the Chinese police and bought the infamous Chinese “security” system)

Sad to see that people like Orbán can erode such a beautiful nation like Hungary.

@mrsupremegascon

Ай бұрын

Less eroded than most Western countries tho.

@krisdaschwab912

Ай бұрын

​@@mrsupremegasconlol

@cristianbalan518

Ай бұрын

​@mrsupremegascon "less eroded" doesn't mean better, because not using your full potential because of full blown nepotism and blatant corruption and affiliation with world's biggest autocratics doesn't in sound "less eroded" it sounds like Unable to escape the yoke of its communist era

@MettMagier

Ай бұрын

@@mrsupremegasconThat‘s gotta be a joke.

@barnabastoth9283

Ай бұрын

@@mrsupremegasconu have no clue obviously.

Because... Birds of a feather Flock together Through the propeller.

@eddapultstab2078

Ай бұрын

Wait! Is that why Trump hates windmills?

@supr69deadbeat

28 күн бұрын

​@@eddapultstab2078no, he hates windmills because his hair and up looking like a 90s punk vocalist

For hundreds of years we had a saying in Poland and Hungary Pole Hungarian two brothers, to a fight and to a glass... Idk about hungary, but in Poland this saying is completely dead thanks to their support of Putin. It's quite sad honestly

@krakenroll.

Ай бұрын

"lengyel magyar két jó barát" is not as well known here as it is in poland, i don't know if it used to be different but now most younger people don't know it

@panmajin6895

Ай бұрын

@@krakenroll. Well I AM kinda older, and It's not like it was spoken all the time. But if you did, you wouldn't get any strange looks- that's how it was for hundreds of years, for example we got a lot of help escaping germans during WW2, despite Hungary being on "the wrong side"... But if I said it now I might as well say that I support Putin

Autocrats have a tendency to isolate themselves, even from other autocrats. Hungary really needs to find it's path back into democracy.

@Pekka.Pekka.1296

Ай бұрын

With a totally demolished educational system it won’t come in this century.

@greyghost2492

Ай бұрын

"Democracy is when people vote for gl0b0-h0m0 leftoids like me"

@simonsaysno

Ай бұрын

Non governmental organizations have sent neutral observers to each election in Hungary since Orban became PM. To this day they have found ZERO evidence of election fraud. Hungary already is a democracy.

@user-ih4qu9qs8q

Ай бұрын

​@@Pekka.Pekka.1296 i doubt that lack of gender studies in schools is actually preventing anyone from becoming a true democracy, fren it's quite the opposite.

@rinc_1013

Ай бұрын

Democracy is dead

That dude had friends? I thought he was stealing everyone's lunch money.

@DSAK55

Ай бұрын

"friends with benefits"

@Born782

Ай бұрын

Go back and finish 6th grade pal))))

@tszirmay

5 күн бұрын

Which explains why the IMF loans are at zero......

The Sweden Democrats used to love Orban, and be at least more chummy towards Putin than other Swedish parties, until the invasion of Ukraine.

@Bragosso

Ай бұрын

They still love Orban. Not long ago, before the Swedish accession to NATO, Björn Söder from SD suggested to Ulf Kristersson that he should fly down to Hungary and "have a whisky" and cozy up with Orban and it would make Orban allow Sweden into NATO faster. SD also changed their mind on public service broadcasting, now instead of removing it all together they want to keep it and influence it by having a political change of all public services leadership. Complete Orban style manuever.

@KramerMC5

Ай бұрын

But Donnie still loves Vic. (Even if half the time he thinks he is the boss of Turkey).

It turns out that if you base all your decisions on rampant self interest (as a leader, NOT as a nation), the only people willing to work with you are also self interested and won't have your back.

@theodentherenewed4785

Ай бұрын

Beautifully said. That's why appearances are so important in foreign policy. Hungary thinks that they don't need to pretend, they can wear their heart on the sleeve, but now everyone knows that they're self-serving and self-absorbed. Other nations are too, but they are better at hiding it.

@samuela-aegisdottir

Ай бұрын

@@theodentherenewed4785 When Putin blackmailed EU in 2022, threatening not to sell any gas, it was in the economic self-interest of EU to back down and stop the sanctions. But we did not. We stood by Ukraine despite of the threat of a very harsh winter. Expensive oil and gas made the life harderd for the ordinary people, businesses and politicians. But we did what was right. That is a strong example of a selfless behaviour.

@tszirmay

5 күн бұрын

@@theodentherenewed4785 You must have visited Budapest many times in order to come to such laughable conclusions , which must be so obvious to you in view that they cannot HIDE their overt egotism and attitude.

Shifting Right to Left and Left to Right is a normal thing in Democracies. What is abnormal is the rise of the extremism and this can not be Tolerated by those Democracies. Its an existencial threat to peace in Europe

@EnderCorePL

Ай бұрын

I sincerely hope this trend is brief and ends before the right ruins EU

@InfiniteDesign91

Ай бұрын

How is antifa not banned then?

@vascoapolonio2309

Ай бұрын

@@InfiniteDesign91 is antifa a political party, by any chance?

@vascoapolonio2309

Ай бұрын

Because antifa is not a Political Party

@indigenous.rabbit2877

Ай бұрын

​@@InfiniteDesign91 they are not nearly as extreme, dangerous and numerous as many right-wing groups. Plus it is an action-reaction thing if the group is banned another group would take its place because there is still a need because right wing-extremist groups weren't banned.

Orban must fear polonium tea.

As a EU citizen we are sooooooooooooooo fed up with Orban and would LOVE to get rid of Orbans Hungary. He is isolated in the EU and as a member of NATO nobody trusts them ... I wonder why Orban acting like a strongman is pure show as Hungary is so much dependend on the EU. Hungarys economy would immediatly crash and neither Russia (they need money themselves) nor China will save them, as Orban is only usefull (idot...) to the CCP as long as it is a EU member. By the way Italy ended the BRI as they stated it benefitted China more than Italy and other EU countrys which are not in the BRI are beneffiting a lot more from trade with China.

@finianlacy8827

Ай бұрын

WOW !! so unaware of which side is the true enemy....

@JaegerDreadful

Ай бұрын

I am hoping for a shift in Hungarian politics, like it happened in Poland. But I doubt it will happen.

@tomorrowneverdies567

Ай бұрын

You want less beautiful people to settle in Hungary and reduce the average beauty of the population there?

@Allthefootballgods

Ай бұрын

You are so mislead on Orban and Hungary 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@moonwind6303

Ай бұрын

@@Allthefootballgods ...and your arguments are? The emojis?

I'm Hungarian... excellent summary! Wish it weren't true! :(

@Dezznuts2294

Ай бұрын

ne agódj magyar peti majd keni a szájukat

@cassif19

Ай бұрын

But is the average Hungarian changing their views on Orban, or do those who supported him still believe in his promises and propaganda?

@ferencmori3114

Ай бұрын

⁠@@cassif19 As I see it, Hungary has had a social crisis for some time now. 1) There’s virtually no opposition, and without proper alternative, it’s very difficult to get rid of Orban. 2) Lots of people, especially less educated one, resonate with the government’s propaganda that is well maintained by continuous brainwashing ads on TV. 3) It’s very hard to mobilise Hungarian people as due to historical reasons, there weren’t many occasions when any type of demonstrations were successful in the past so people have very little faith in organising protests. It doesn’t help that Orban’s Fidesz party started to blacklist teachers who participated in anti-government demonstrations who later faced humiliating disciplinary actions or dismissal. 4) On top of all this, Orban is a very smart and calculating politician who knows Hungarian mindset 100% and always tells his voters whatever they want to hear. Despite acting differently from what he communicates, most people take what he says as it is. Orban doesn’t like educated people as they’re less likely become his voters so he’s systematically weakening our educational system to ensure younger generations would know less. All in all Orban is smart enough to legitimise his heavily autocratic and authoritarian regime where institutionalised corruption is now the norm. What adds fuel to fire is that when being judged by the EU, who even stops paying funds, it only makes Orban worse as he’s turning to China and Russia more rather than seeking cooperation with the EU. Without any doubt, Orban is the most dangerous PM in the EU. He’s most dangerous to his own nation, though.

Orban behaives like Hungary is a rich country like Norway/Switzerland that doesn't need the EU

Orban: "Let's make an office to prevent foreign intrusion on our sovereignty" Also Orban: "Let's invite China to intrude on our sovereignty"

The bots just don't stop, I guess

@indetermite

Ай бұрын

Fr

@user-gk8pv7sg6r

Ай бұрын

Bots like you😂😂

@Hardcore_Remixer

Ай бұрын

"This person has an opinion opposing mine so they must be a bot." 😂

@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500

Ай бұрын

@@Hardcore_Remixer my brother in christ, i am talking about the pron bots that always comment some generic shit the second the video gets uploaded, i hadn't even watched the full video

@dw620

Ай бұрын

Less worry about bots and more about the channel owner deleting relatively uncontroversial comments about keeping friends close and enemies closer and that Xi and Trump were clearly *not* friends given his actions against the PRC (and TikTok) which were rolled back then rolled forward again under Biden!

Being the "prototype" will enable him to be the leader of the red fascists (IT WILL CATCH ON, PEOPLE!) like it enabled Mussolini to be the respected leader of the Tripartite Pact 😂😂

@recoil53

Ай бұрын

Yeah, being the weakest among a group of narcasists who never pay back (good) favors really isn't an advantage.

@gtrdxz

Ай бұрын

gibberish

The fundamental principle of liberty is the ability to say NO! I don’t necessarily agree with Hungary’s position. However no democracy should have 100% agreement. You should also be able to say no and not be punished if using your democratic right to object!

@pixellordm8780

Ай бұрын

However; your singular “No” shouldn’t be allowed to usurp 20 people saying “Yes” as that is tyranny, Not democracy.

@DanJuega

Ай бұрын

Lol the fundamental principle of liberty is not depriving it from others, something which Hungary does. So there are in fact positions that cannot be held under a democracy.

@gyozop

Ай бұрын

They should have written in EU law only Germany and France can use the veto.

@DanJuega

Ай бұрын

@@gyozop No one should have a very tbh

@gyozop

Ай бұрын

@@DanJuega Several countries used it already. The last time Netherlands and Austria vetoed Romania and Bulgaria joining the Schengen free movement zone. Hungary did not even use it. Something is going on in the media.

For all wondering... The Lisbon treaty has no provision to kick members, the closest is the Brexit famous article 50. Hungary has to dealt with through isolation and more importantly money.

@Fidesz-szavazo-voltam

Ай бұрын

Everyone leave, the one remaining is alone... Then they found a new club with new rules... The one is kicked out this way...

@oldernu1250

Ай бұрын

Russia doesn't have any to spare. EU should demand an independent judiciary before giving Hungary the time of day, let alone anything other than Ukrainian grain...

@lukedalton

Ай бұрын

No, but had provision to strip him of voting rights, the mere menace of this had bring him to more friendly position as Orban talk big but by now know how isolated he is and how much pissed off is the EU

2:28 metamorphosis of Luxembourg into Hungary.

Exclude Hungary from the EU and Orban is done. Legal issues can be solved through the re-establishment of the EU. Everybody who want to be a member can but Hungary.

@Kodakcompactdisc

Ай бұрын

Clever

@DacianRider

Ай бұрын

sure, just please don't clump Romania with them. We like our status in the EU and don't want to give up our link to it for that fat toad.

@angelicaflanagan3483

Ай бұрын

Yes, they want to play games and let the innocent people of Ukraine die from a coward dictator kick them out of NATO. they're no good to the alliance anyway. It's only a small poor .I'm from Canada. I don't want to go and protect them if they want to have a leader like that.

@paul1979uk2000

Ай бұрын

Without the EU, Hungary would have little to no relevance, his biggest power is that he's a pain in the arse in the EU and can obstruct things on the EU level, take that away from him and the likes of Trump, China and Putin wouldn't care about Hungary. But the irony is that even with Hungary being in the EU, the EU and its members are finding creative solutions to work around Hungary, which is making Orbán usefulness to the likes of Trump, Putin and China far less useful, the end result is that Hungary is quickly getting isolated in the EU and the west, whiles having so-called friends among dictators that don't care about Hungary and only see them as a useful idiot if they can get things done at an EU level.

@Ratgibbon

Ай бұрын

@ernstschwaig4667 Despite Orban's best attempts and constant campaign against the EU, according to most surveys about this subject in the country most Hungarians want to be a member of the Union. Don't equalise our nation with Orban, not all of us think and act like him.

One thing about dictators and wannabe dictators, is that it's hard for them to make friends as they are more likely to stab each other in the back, they are usually self-centred on their own interest, which makes it difficult for cooperation to last, because the dagger is always hanging around. Countries that are democracies are not so successful by chance, they are so successful because that openness allows them to make far more friends around the world, it also reduces the risk of making big mistakes, politically and economically, China is an example of that, under there current government, they are doing a lot of damage to the country, yet the people have no alternative option because it's a dictatorship, meaning, if the government continues on that path, they end up ruining the country, Turkey is another example, you've got a government that keeps insisting on weird inflation policies and he's doing a lot of damage to the country, in a democracy, any that try to do a lot of damage are quickly thrown out, and why democracies are far more successful, because they can adapt far better to what's going on, without being stubborn on policies that clearly don't work, democracies also have constant pressure from the voters to keep improving things. But seriously, when will these dictators learn, you can have your wins here and there, but long term they can't win, but on the plus side, their games with each other is keeping the democracies around the world in power, which most are western. Orbán isn't very bright, you might be making friends with other dictators around the world which could backstab him at any time when it suits them, Orbán is alienating his closes partners in Europe where a lot of the countries economic success comes from, it's a high risk move from Orbán that he could end up with no friends and many backstabbers from around the world, but this is why dictatorships are rarely that successful and don't usually last that long, you only have to look through history on that one, they are too stubborn and do too many mistakes because of that, which holds them back and reduce them as a power, yet these countries don't learn lol, if Orbán was smart, he would see that his only real chance of real power would be through the EU, but that means being on friendly terms with a lot of EU countries to push many of your own policies, Germany and France understand that, Hungary doesn't, so what we end up seeing is Hungary being slowly isolated in the EU, which weakens the countries power and longer term could reduce investment in the country and could lead to the country being kicked out of the EU. As for his hopes on the rise of the right, I think Orbán is dreaming, a lot of the indicators are showing that even with the parties that could do well, they are not that supportive of Orbán, with the exception of Trump, but he is far less important, what Orbán really needs is support from EU countries, which seems unlikely whichever way the elections go this year, in fact, from the EU's point of view, Trump is a very useful idiot for the EU in a lot of ways.

@ayoCC

Ай бұрын

free and fair democracies are also fair to their friends, that's why among G7, the world trade organization works great. But then dictator regimes like China come along and abuse the system to a point

@nonradicalnationalist6608

Ай бұрын

U.S is dictatorship EU is dictatorship Your point?

You pronounced Debrecen very well! Thank you 😊

It's in the EU's long-term interest that it suspends Hungary's membership so long as Orban is charge of Hungary.

@ayoCC

Ай бұрын

he can remain in power, but rules need to be changed to ensure the future of hungary is free and fair. like putting into the constitution limits to the power of the president, I think it needs to be a multi presidential regime like switzerland with 1 year rotation for a select few tasks. Countries should in general either go full parliamental, or multi presidential.

@paul1979uk2000

Ай бұрын

All the EU needs to do is suspend Hungary voting rights in the EU, all of a sudden, Hungary wouldn't be useful for the likes of Trump, Putin and China, which would isolate Hungary far more.

@belstar1128

Ай бұрын

remove ireland from the eu

@chi15800

Ай бұрын

@@ayoCC the prez terms are limited, orban is prime minister, he shifted most of the power from prez to PM because he also controls parliament majority and could pass these changes to the constitution (like a nefarious wannabe dictator that is selling his country and people to putyn, xi and anyone except the good team)

@chi15800

Ай бұрын

@@belstar1128 i m also very pssed by irelands stubborness to not join nato. the whole west needs them in (not for their military or man power.. but for having full control on the Atlantic corridor so the orcs wont be able to move subs and ships freely in case shit really hits the fan). They are not pro-russian at all, but their stubbornness to remain neutral is pathetic at this point since countries like swe and fin gave up neutrality, even switzerland for the first time ever is very supportive to another country - ukr (broke neutrality)

He’s having Chinese police stationed in his country??

@theabaddon7457

Ай бұрын

Sigh, that is why I say, that TLDR is also just a propaganda machine. They just throw out explosive headlines and refuse to elaborate, when it comes to the right wing, contrary to the left, where they even analyse the possible intentions, and luck of certain leaders. Chinese police in Hungary: Many countries have such aggreement with eachother, and it is related to tourism. These chinese cops will have zero legal power in the country and they are here to help out the hungarian cops, when it comes to chinese tourists. Hungary has also police officers in Croatia for example, due to the high number of hungarian tourists during the summer season.

Next video could be: Why the EU seems to tolerate a dictatorship

@spadaacca

Ай бұрын

The EU has no power to do anything about it.

@ducksareurlords3782

Ай бұрын

Hungary is under massive sanctions and in most EU leader meetings Orbán gets "a coffee break" for the moment when other EU leaders vote for something important.

@melissacorbett4180

Ай бұрын

​@@spadaaccathey can kick Hungary out of the EU, but so far have refused to do so

@JahNgomba-ir2zi

Ай бұрын

@@melissacorbett4180they can’t . They could theoretically suspend them but that would never be because Slovakia would probably just veto it

@AB-zl4nh

Ай бұрын

​@melissacorbett4180 There is no legal mechanism to kick out any EU state. They Commission & Court of Justice can take the Hungarian government to court, freeze funds & the Council (of national leaders) can suspend the voting rights of Hungary in the Council (of Ministers) and Council (of national leaders). The EU has done the first 2 many times.

Those who want to live behind an iron curtain can't have their cake and eat it. Either you go away or you play along.

@tszirmay

5 күн бұрын

Which is why October 23 is a national holiday in Hungary commemorating the 1956 revolution. You should go away....

Hey folks, small suggestion: can you give it a small pause (even just a second) before starting the final sponsor section? It makes it feel confusing, as if there was no conclusion, plus the loudness contrast is annoying

Trump: I love winners! Also Trump: I support Putin! Putin: Donald, I'm loosing here!

@gtrdxz

Ай бұрын

True False "loosing"?

@Sarcasticron

Ай бұрын

Donald: Sorry, can't help you, I'm losing and broke! I can't get back any of those documents, and I have no idea what they said because I'm so bad at reading and remembering! I can't win over any new voters! Waahhhh!!! Send more money please!

“Speeddating the other global strongmen” 😂

Thank you for diversifying people in front of the camera. Love the original contributors, but this will bring me back more often than ever 😊

I think Hungarians have already had it with Orban and his government. It's time for him to go. Hungary deserves a new prime minister.

@1nhof

Ай бұрын

The only people we've had it with is leftists and liberals.

@tszirmay

5 күн бұрын

offer your candidacy then....

@user-mx9ge8rc8q

5 күн бұрын

Usa also deserve a better president

@roberthoyt7921

5 күн бұрын

@@user-mx9ge8rc8q Criminal defendant Trump better not become president yet again. Neither I nor anyone else would ever want a second or even third Trump presidency. F**k him.

@roberthoyt7921

5 күн бұрын

@@tszirmay I'm not running for president at all anyway.

TOAD, no telling how many ruzian gold bars he has stashed

@user-mx9ge8rc8q

5 күн бұрын

😂😅

A clown ran the country's reputation to the ground

@dermeisterdesspiegels3518

Ай бұрын

Penguin from Batman, but at least that character had logic.

@magyararon6918

Ай бұрын

He is a fair representation of 3 million hungarians.

@nonradicalnationalist6608

Ай бұрын

Rainbow idiots are clowns this man is true hero

@Pekka.Pekka.1296

Ай бұрын

@@magyararon6918 Yes 😂. 3millions of Hungary are keen on personality cult and superdumb. Sorry, that’s the fact 😢

@Demirel7641

Ай бұрын

​@@magyararon69183 million neanderthals.

I find it funny that we talk about EU migration lessons from Hungary as if Hungarians were super valued immigrants in the rest of the EU and/or Hungarians preferred Hungarian living standards to, say, German

I think talking about global autocrats and then showing Milei and Xi in the same picture is a bit of a false equivalency.

Never thought i could find politics so interesting as a teen,guess i am boring 😂

@Sarcasticron

Ай бұрын

No, smart! And remember, true intelligence is curiosity, not just knowing things.

If only EU would dare to investigate what Hungary has been doing with those billions of EU taxpayer money.

@tszirmay

5 күн бұрын

Paying off the IMF and rebuilding the country is perhaps where some of it went. . If EU funds are mismanaged and /or stolen , shouldn’t the burden of guilt be on those who doled out the cash without any kind of security and accountability? And this has been going on since Orban has won, like it or not, the past three elections. No one, inside or outside has managed to find proof of what you claim.

@dewaard3301

5 күн бұрын

@@tszirmay No, it's fraud.

@tszirmay

5 күн бұрын

@@dewaard3301 all these years in power and no proof, remarkable achievement.....

Feels like the audio and passing has improved, (especially with 2x speed)

Thumbnail was a little rush heads up hahaha. Great video though, you're one of my new favourite presenters!

Sounds like Hungary needs some FREEDOM 🫡

@lif6737

Ай бұрын

But, no oil ☹️☹️☹️☹️

@JUAN_OLIVIER

Ай бұрын

Lest time I checked it was western European countries arresting people for things they said online like authoritarians.

@feihceht656

Ай бұрын

FOR SUPER EARTH

Orban is the leader of his country and his people , his ideology is that Hungary first so he is popular in his country and his people (no need to popular for other countries), which is similar Trump ideology is that america first. so he is a friend of trump and fico slovakia. this make orban differ from other leader of EU country now . however Far right parties are coming in many country in EU , epecially france and german, that they might be collaborating in the future, this can significantly change EU policy as well.

@khrystynahrynkevych7440

Ай бұрын

No far right leaders will support him, as he supports Russia and no country that has border with Russia will support him . Also Italy wouldnt and France . Not sure about Germany so, really weird situation now.

Did Orban buy a pair of those Golden Sneakers from Trump? LOL.

interesting, thanks

I really despise Orbans China and Russian dealings

@katalinrobin6222

Ай бұрын

nobody is interested in you

Seeing the European right still distancing themselves from him, Orbán should realize that it isn't all his views that are disliked, but he as a person.

@nonradicalnationalist6608

Ай бұрын

His foreginer policy

2:28 Cant tell if it is Luxembourg Or Magyarzarsog

Vladdy, 71, resident badboy lol love to see editors having fun

glad that you brought woman to your team

@nonradicalnationalist6608

Ай бұрын

They finally came out of their incel phase

@ludicrousreality0

Ай бұрын

​@@nonradicalnationalist6608so when are you going to touch grass?

@nonradicalnationalist6608

Ай бұрын

@@ludicrousreality0 When you leave your mother's basment and finally Stop calling yourself an incel

@JUAN_OLIVIER

Ай бұрын

Why?

Orban's Hungary has no place in EU

@alfoldmapping5504

Ай бұрын

Hungary ≠ Orban

I think this new lady gets better with every video! hope we can see her on one of the podcast episodes in the future.

Serbia is a stanogman country ❤

Regarding the Chinese police in Hungary, they did that secretly in Canada. They were blackmailing their own expatriates.

2:27 As a Dutchie, I was _very_ confused by that flag 😳 (and kinda still am, at how it changed colours)

I don't like Orban at all, but even I have to admit he was right on the immigration stuff.

@gorcsev113

Ай бұрын

Sure. And he is right not to go to war in Ukraine. And he is right to defend the country and the families in Hungary. And...

Title: "How Hungary Ran out of Friends and Money" Conclusion: "It's still too early to say if Orban's international move will work" Click-bait at its finest

3:05 china, turkey and egypt are not conservative

Please add Hungarian subtitles

It highlights the confusion that reigns within the EU.

@marleneMS

Ай бұрын

Aha, that's it then? Which confusion? Does the EU know about it?

Why didn't we strip Hungary's EU voting rights since polands new government formed? After kicking out their only ally, the PIS party, that was the first thing we all expected but it hasn't happened yet. I'm so fed up of that slapped arse looking wannabe dictator.

@krisdaschwab912

Ай бұрын

Slovakia elected a new government of Russian stooges about a month or so before Poland got rid of PiS.

@imcbocian

Ай бұрын

Becouse he found ally in Slovakia right now

@samuela-aegisdottir

Ай бұрын

I am afraid that Slovakia is the new Poland.

@chi15800

Ай бұрын

@@samuela-aegisdottir imagine supporting a country that claims your entire country for themselves 😂😂 Cmon Slovakia..

@lukedalton

Ай бұрын

because while keeping talking big, Orban immedieately agreed to give Ukraine EU money once the menace of stripping him of the voting rights has be done. This is the EU nuclear option so everyone is not very eager to do it

Sharp commentary, thanks.

What's up with the flag color changing at 2:29?

Keep up the good work TLDR

@mike4480

Ай бұрын

…Thanks for the update, it was very informative…💙💛💙

💙💛💪👍

oh, much loved, protectionist and conservative policies like debt to china

Orban is the type of a disturber, not a politician. 😂 But pathetic one 😂

Comparing trump putin and xi is kind of odd

@SocialDownclimber

Ай бұрын

If I was Xi I would be pretty unimpressed but Trump and Putin do have a lot in common.

@Gaywizard11

Ай бұрын

True. Xi and Putin can read.

@magicjuand

Ай бұрын

seems pretty reasonable to me, in terms of overall alignment wrt liberalism

@panzerschliffehohenzollern4863

Ай бұрын

At least Putin and Xi can be predictable. The are strongman dictator pretending to be democratically elected. While Trump is like...... how should I say it.... "Flip flop around like a beached dolphin?"

Why are you not talking about Ireland and its recent referendums?

@joeyjojojrshabadoo7462

Ай бұрын

You know why.

Watch Croatian elections closely as he is about to get another in Croatian parliamentary elections.

Fascinating, thank you.

why cant Hungary just be expelled from the EU and Nato

Italy dump belt and road initiative yes thanks Tldr news.

Take any information from the left wing Guardian towards a right wing politician with a pinch of salt. Also Orban is not the only politician in the EU and Europe that is disillusioned with the liberal agenda and thinking of the EU. Orban is very popular in his home country as my Hungarian neighbour has told me, also is Orban’s foreign policies down to something that the media and other politicians are not foreseeing?

@Ok_yes_its_me

Ай бұрын

The point being made is that Orban is so nuts that even the other hard right politicians won't touch him with a bargepole. He's out there on his own.

Big ideas 😂 Have you seen the gdp data? BRICS growth? Eu de-industrialisation? …

@saimaberrii

Ай бұрын

BRICS is a failed state alliance. EU deindustrializing is corporate media propaganda, still a much better place to live than any authoritarian hellhole like Russia or Iran

Orban 🤮

@alfoldmapping5504

Ай бұрын

I agree from Hungary.

@user-mx9ge8rc8q

5 күн бұрын

Zelensky 🤡

EU should kick Hungary out of their group.

@alfoldmapping5504

Ай бұрын

Hungary ≠ Orban

First video I've seen that young lady, very good delivery 👍

NATO and EU members are sick of Hungarians too. You guys keep voting for him. You aren't innocent in all this.

@krakenroll.

Ай бұрын

i am not voting for him which doesn't make me any less hungarian. the hungarian education system can shape you four ways 1) you stay stupid: support the system without understanding it (usually not by own mistake ) 2) you dig your head in the sand: saying that you don't care about politics even though it's about your own life, you probably can't even name the mayor of your town 3) finding your place within the system; corruption only exists if you don't get your share 4) opposition/emigration (based on how optimistic you are, many of us aren't)

@alfoldmapping5504

Ай бұрын

2022 Hungarian elections: - Fidesz (Orban's party) - 3.000.000 votes - 37,5% - United Opposition (Against Orban) - 2.000.000 votes - 25% - Other (mainly against Orban) - 1.000.000 votes - 12,5% - Abstain from voting - 2.000.000 people - 25% (I support United Opposition by the way.) Hungary ≠ Orban Remember that. Not every Hungarian is supporting Orban, so it is very unreasonable to equalize all Hungarians with Orban. I'm Hungarian, but I hate Orban from the bottom of my heart. But I also dislike, when others equalize Hungary with Orban, without having enough knowledge about Hungary.

@tszirmay

5 күн бұрын

Sick of a political party or of an entire nation? Do you not believe in diversity? Its the fad of the century

Nope, he did not won with 50%. He won and was reelected with 3/4 of the votes. The Hungarian people vote him again and again, if you like it or not. Lies also will not change this fact.

@chefnyc

Ай бұрын

So only 25% of the population will be upset if Hungary is kicked out of EU and joins Russia

@ragalyiakos

Ай бұрын

That's literally not true. You pulled those numbers straight from your ass. In real terms, he hasn't gotten over 50% of the votes since 2010, and if you look at the entire eligible voting population, not just those who actually vote, he has the support of only around 1/3 of voters. The country is just so gerrymandered and the election laws so unfair that this guarantees him victory.

@justine7188

Ай бұрын

Do you take into account the power structure that is centered around orban to ensure that he is re elected? There are other facts to consider

@zsombortelek8411

Ай бұрын

Viktor literally changed the voting municipalities to make sure he's kept being reelected.

@alfoldmapping5504

Ай бұрын

2022 Hungarian elections: - Fidesz (Orban's party) - 3.000.000 votes - 37,5% - United Opposition (Against Orban) - 2.000.000 votes - 25% - Other (mainly against Orban) - 1.000.000 votes - 12,5% - Abstain from voting - 2.000.000 people - 25% (I support United Opposition by the way.) Hungary ≠ Orban Remember that. Not every Hungarian is supporting Orban, so it is very unreasonable to equalize all Hungarians with Orban. I'm Hungarian, but I hate Orban from the bottom of my heart. But I also dislike, when others equalize Hungary with Orban, without having enough knowledge about Hungary.

Verry good analysis! Thanks

The dude is like Ripburger from Full Throttle.

He's not the best, but this report was so biased and words yoused do loadet is funny to make the destination where the facts start and opinions end🤣

The EU should have the ability to remove countries like Hungary from the EU through a super-majority vote. Authoritarianism should have no place in a democratic union.

@krisdaschwab912

Ай бұрын

I'd settle for suspending them through such a vote.

@Hardcore_Remixer

Ай бұрын

Orban was voted by the Hungarians and they knew exactly what he has been doing and that he won't change it. So according to democracy he is representing Hungary in the EU, not EU to Hungary. You can either have democracy at EU level or democracy at national level when not all the nations want the same agenda. But we gotta preserve 'the Western democracy' 😂

@anttibjorklund1869

Ай бұрын

@@Hardcore_Remixer It's not like elections can't be corrupted and electoral laws changed to fit your ruling party's needs....

@catlover12045

Ай бұрын

@@Hardcore_Remixer He controls most media in Hungary and has chanced election law so he would have a easier time. Turkey and Hungary are on the same level of democracy.

@tefky7964

Ай бұрын

@@Hardcore_Remixer NSDAP was voted too...

Szomorú hogy ide jutottunk. 😢

So much for “neutrality” in presentation….

@dw620

Ай бұрын

Mhmm... and the channel owner mass deleted relatively uncontroversial comments about "keeping friends close and enemies closer" and that Xi and Trump were clearly *not* friends given his actions against the PRC (and TikTok) which were rolled back then rolled forward again under Biden! Unsub here, which is a pity. ~

I hope that when the war in Ukraine will be over the EU will start finally dealing with crap like Orban. I know we are something humans really never has done before, so, when creating the EU we didn't have really a past model to refer to, but how we didn't think of situation like present Hungary is beyond me.

Matovič is not a finance minister anymore

The Milei visit is so bizzare, since him and Orban disagree on every issue imaginable, except maybe abortion.

Every single time TLDR makes a video about Orban or Hungary people lit their torches and gather together to agree to boot Hungary out of EU and even NATO. And every single time I am here to ask them nicely to use their brain and not their emotions to think. I understand the frustration - well I am living in it every day - but blowing a country-sized economic and strategic hole in the middle of Europe does not look like a particularly smart idea. But that is what the exclusion of Hungary would mean. The country is a mess. They stole so much that it's actually taking a toll on the economy. Without the EU, Hungary wouldn't be able to stay afloat, and Russia and China know this. The moment Hungary is out of the EU they are going to take its place and drive a wedge in between the rest of the party members. By kicking Hungary out, the EU would do exactly, what Orban wants.

@samuela-aegisdottir

Ай бұрын

Orban doesn't want to be kicked out of EU. His rule is dependent on stealing EU money.

That was a blatant Orban hit piece

@theabaddon7457

Ай бұрын

Not the first one. TLDR always does this, then claims to be free, independent and neutral.

@GRegBellay

Ай бұрын

What would you have added to make it more balanced? I consider myself a moderate liberal and I think TLRD's explainer was a bit wonky here (I think Orban's actions are more long-term, e.g. I don't think he is particularly interested in bringing in foreign investment, the BYD and Debrecen plant are more geopolitic manouvering for me than economic steps). But I'm curious about the conservative view on this.

@theabaddon7457

Ай бұрын

@@GRegBellayTLDR is doing basic hostile journalism, where they throw out bad headlines and refuse to elaborate. I would have to make a 40 minute explanation video, just to refute this 8:30 minute video. Just like how they talk about "stationing chinese police in Hungary", which sounds extremely bad, but if you learn the actual details, then it is completely understandable.

@GRegBellay

Ай бұрын

@@theabaddon7457 No disrespect man, but this is still only more words about your feelings on the video... I don't question your point about the video being one-sided, however presenting the viewpoints of one of the sides is a valid approach - assuming you share both sides of the picture. This latter thing is what TLDR failed to do, though - as I mentioned - I don't know what the counter arguments would have been.

@theabaddon7457

Ай бұрын

@@GRegBellaySigh. Okay, let me illustrate it. I will do just one minute. From 1:40 to 2:40. - Speed Dating Global strongmen: right away a subtle poke, which suggests that Orban is petitioning for some kind of authoritan/anti-democratic alliance. No statements here yet. - Legitimazing their Illiberal politics: Why would Orban need legitimacy? This whole thing suggests, that Hungary is like Oil nations with a brutal dictatorship. Why would Orban need legitimacy from the west? His power is legitimized by elections, and the last election was supervised by EU Observers last time from everywhere across the political spectrum, and even the most far-left observer could only talk shit about unprovable things, like the media-balance. - Eroding democracy in their countries: Where did Orban erode democracy? He reformed the Soviet-Era Constituation with a 2/3 majority, and reformed the electoral system into a half-anglo-saxon and half-dutch one, where half of the posts are first pass the post, and the other half is determined by overall majority vote. Their best case is gerrymandering at most, but there are no octopus-like electoral blocks, like in the US, so it is just not that significant. - Showing how they are not alone on the global level: Again. They suggest that Orban is being friendly with China and Russia, for the sake friendliness. Russia has vital trade with Hungary, and there is an enormous competition for chinese companies, for example the new BYD factory. Interestingly even the French competed to be the EU supplier of BYD, but now that they lost the competition, suddenly it is terrible for the EU to have the BYD in it. - Paint other leaders as soapy, out-of-touch liberals: "paint them". They imply, that these leaders are not that kind of leaders, only the Orbanian propaganda suggests as such, so if you think so, then you are just regurgitating hostile propaganda. - Sovereignty protection office cracking down on dissent: which does nothing, and only makes suggestions. You can look it up, they don't have any power. Btw, this comes after it was revealed, that the opposition was financed by foreign nations, which is a huge no-no for any western country, except Hungary it seems. Now, just refuting 1 minute worth of material took me around 20 minutes. Spewing bullshit is always easier than refuting it.

Orban also has Bloodshot running around his capital, too. (Anyone else fans of that movie?)

Human traffic controller, serious guy, respect)