Which European Countries are Most Pro-China?
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Let's talk about how European attitudes to China differ. By looking at a couple of the most pro- and anti-China countries in Europe, as well as where the two European heavyweights - France and Germany - fall on the spectrum.
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I love the clickbait with big green poland as a friend of china and then not speaking about poland lol.
@DoubleMannings
12 күн бұрын
That's true, didn't spot that
@renaatsenechal
12 күн бұрын
They should start adding poland as a big player comparable to italy though
@obimk1-ms1jw
12 күн бұрын
"Non intervention" SHIT China - SHIT China USED an ILLEGAL Police Office in my EU country - China stole technology from my country - Human Rights in China and US are bad - And US PM's banned certain machines from my country tobe exported to China.
@skazka3789
12 күн бұрын
Poland is pretty China friendly though. Their President was one of the attendees at the Beijing Winter Olympics Opening Ceremony
@Nuli-YT
12 күн бұрын
@@skazka3789 not Poland is less friendly to China than France or Germany. We are the most close of USA, one of first ban Huawei 5g device in infrastucture.
so wtf is this thumbnail?
@JoshuaC-Work
11 күн бұрын
Since when did Poland become pro-china EVER?
@aaxe1766
11 күн бұрын
What’s wrong with it
@JoshuaC-Work
11 күн бұрын
@@aaxe1766 You. You're the problem.
@benpuljak2304
11 күн бұрын
one of their worst
@dyawr
10 күн бұрын
@@aaxe1766 It's clickbait & doesn't match the information in the video.
The thumbnail is irresponsible… you can’t post something like that and not explain anything about Poland. It’s not even a click bait anymore, just lie.
@Zigzag5710
12 күн бұрын
cry
@foryou7673
12 күн бұрын
@@Zigzag5710 ??????
@Pigraider268
12 күн бұрын
@@Zigzag5710He/she's right tho
@Zigzag5710
12 күн бұрын
@@Pigraider268 I understand but i dont think its that serious . i tjink this thumbnail stems from the fact that poland is a fairly backwards and a “non western” country who alligns themselves with russia and china despite not being true
@dyawr
10 күн бұрын
I honestly clicked on the video, because it showed Romania as the deepest green & I was worried about that. But nothing about Romania was even shown or mentioned once... (or Greece, for that matter)
I find the thumbnail confusing.
@argiberico
12 күн бұрын
As confusing as Brexit. The British don't understand it, nevertheless are strongly opinionated about it.
@vardekpetrovic9716
12 күн бұрын
@@argiberico Not everything is about brexit. And the UK did well to leave, yeah it hurts to leave your parents house but in the end it pays off, unless you still have to pay for their upkeep like the UK. the UK with as slow growth as it have still beats germany and sweden whom is officially in a recession. This entire channel is just liberal socialist (oxymoron i know) propaganda. They have gotten nothing right in their years of "prognosticating"
Saying poland is a good friend of china is like saying that Russia is a good friend of poland...
@yunusgokcen174
12 күн бұрын
Russia is a good tradings partner. This animosity is artificial
@Gloverfield
12 күн бұрын
@@yunusgokcen174 Yeah whatever, I'll let the coment section do the roasting...
@yunusgokcen174
12 күн бұрын
@@Gloverfield what roasting? Are you an NPC? Russia is not our enemy, China is not our enemy. The enemy is the USA, who holds abnormal large control of the EU and Nato. And through the EU and Nato, they control us. This war, it was a mistake. We have to call the EU out on this.
@yunusgokcen174
12 күн бұрын
@@Gloverfield @Gloverfield what roasting? Are you an NPC? Russia is not our enemy, China is not our enemy. The enemy is the USA, who holds abnormal large control of the EU and Nato.
@yunusgokcen174
12 күн бұрын
@@Gloverfield @Gloverfield what roasting? Are you an NPC? Russia is not our enemy, China is not our enemy.
Serbia joing EU? In their dreams lol. India will join EU before Serbia
@Vide501
12 күн бұрын
It ain't in our dreams, we don't wanna join.
@da1vinci1edi
12 күн бұрын
Serbs: We don't wanna join the EU... We don't like it , it sux! We love Putin and Russia!!! We are brothers we are Russians!!! Also Serbs: 70% Work and live in the EU... talking trash about the EU from France,Austria,Germany from they'r Serbian Ghettos and Communities... :D
@donkey7921
12 күн бұрын
@@Vide501 then withdraw your application 🤡
@MM-un3ob
12 күн бұрын
EU bad because EU doesn't let Serbia deport minorities to camps :(
@ChandranPrema123
12 күн бұрын
I'm sure India EU FTA will happen soon before Serbia will join EU
Bit disingenuous to say "Serbia and Hungary support China's one China policy" and neglect to mention that the entire European Union also 'supports' this 'policy'. Sometimes I get a feeling you guys just say whatever you think will sound right to your audience without any consideration for accuracy.
@nydydn
12 күн бұрын
Even USA supports one china policy. Of course one china policy means everything, anything and nothing depending on which supporter you ask. Even Taiwan supports the one china policy. Basically everyone who cared to weigh in on the issue supports the one china policy. Apart from a minority of Taiwanese citizens, everyone supports one china policy.
@matthewmiller6568
12 күн бұрын
@@nydydnthere's a difference between supporting it to appease China and actually supporting it. Statistics showost people support Taiwan independence
@MJ-revered
11 күн бұрын
@@matthewmiller6568That's incorrect because the One China policy is the official position of the US government and the basis of China-US relations. As Blinken reiterated again during his latest trip to Beijing.
@matthewmiller6568
11 күн бұрын
@@MJ-revered at the same time the US consistently says that the US will defend Taiwan in the case of an invasion from China and is both gifting and selling billions in military hardware to Taiwan
@ElZilchoYo
11 күн бұрын
This is a western propaganda channel pretending to be an independent analysis.
You guys have a serious problem mixing Europe and EU. Can you please clear that up? As a Norwegian, I'm kind of pissed at not being counted as a European.
@kaiserxblue
12 күн бұрын
But you guys along with your neighbors are even better than Europeans, you are Scandinavians, a well independent and proud faction of your own forged throught out the centuries. Why settle for less?
@dnocturn84
12 күн бұрын
@@kaiserxblue They can't be better than Europeans, they ARE Europeans. Left-handed Europeans are also Europeans. Green-eyed Europeans are also Europeans. And there is no such thing as "being better". Or are you some follower of master-race myths?
@kaiserxblue
12 күн бұрын
@@dnocturn84 Well so are Russians but I don't see you calling them Europeans either.
@dnocturn84
12 күн бұрын
@@kaiserxblue I call Russians Europeans, for my part. Because a vast majority of them are. It's of course tricky with these countries that span multiple continents. Turkey for example is even worse, because most of them are Asian.
@MJ-revered
11 күн бұрын
@@kaiserxblueJust curious do you see Australians as Europeans?
I love the effort you guys put into your videos!
2:05 Hey TLDR guys. Could you please source this information because I follow you dearly and I like your videos, but this number is incorrect to say the least. The total Chinese investment in Serbia is 10.3$ billion from 2009 onwards. It is nowhere near 20$ billion. I would be grateful if you could explain more. P. S. GeoPolitics is my profession. Thank you.
@Tomislavr7
12 күн бұрын
Their source is whatever their masters in the UK tell them to say. Don't put much mind into it.
Im proud of my country Serbia to have this mighy nation of China as ally. Eu can't decide for 20 years what they want with Balkans, and they force Serbia to make precedent in Europe to give up Kosvo it's legimite and legal part of land to procide with joining EU in faaaar future i mean wtf.
@SpamTown
10 күн бұрын
Mighty nation 😂 Nice propoganda. How about them landsliding birth rates little bot?
@cte4dota
10 күн бұрын
@@SpamTown It's free nation at least unlike all mighty westerners with 0 freedoms just follow orders of USA their god.
@antoinestudio1062
Күн бұрын
@@SpamTownlmao I’m in France and We know that if the child birth rate is high in Europe in countries such as UK, France and Germany it is because of the African and the North Africans and the Indians and pakis in UK. The whites are in fact still making more child than let’s say china and Japan but not by a fair margin. We are getting « carried » by the immigrants and their descendants. So if you are living in Europe you are either not living in Western Europe or either a traitor because these peoples brought some major problems.
@ncs9753
13 сағат бұрын
@@SpamTown Europe has the same problem, and all the other high economy countries. The only difference is EU imports third worlders to replace their own people lmao.
For us in Lithuania, China may also remind Soviet Union, which is obviously not a good look. Although, such opinion is not as prominent so far.
@1943stone
12 күн бұрын
Since when America’s lapdog has an opinion?
@reivell3699
12 күн бұрын
Why? That's like saying UK reminded you of the nazis.
@jasonlangley8
12 күн бұрын
Depends if you are close enough to them. Cuz we, as one of their neighbors, we can feel it.
@attackxxx
12 күн бұрын
CCP is creepy af. UK is kind in comparison.
@1943stone
12 күн бұрын
your opinion is basically imposed by your master U.S
1:40 what's the source for that "pro China" sentiment graph?
China: Don't politicize trade!" Also China: We won't trade anything with Lithuanian components because of politics
@hgkghkhgkgh8378
12 күн бұрын
Would the USA trade with countries that recognize CSA? Would Ukraine accept to trade with countries that recognize the Russian conquest?
@israellai
12 күн бұрын
"It's political only if I don't like it"
@BrightWendigo
12 күн бұрын
@@hgkghkhgkgh8378America doesn’t hypocritically say not to politicize trade.
@hgkghkhgkgh8378
12 күн бұрын
@@BrightWendigo except for the countless sanctions. But I guess those don't count.
@valetudo1569
12 күн бұрын
@@hgkghkhgkgh8378 My point is they are constantly the ones saying not to do the exact thing they do constantly. Simply don't say it
I came from Budapest the airport has Chinese signs translated everywhere didn't except that 😅
@edc1569
12 күн бұрын
lol, really!?
@Marios-br1hm
12 күн бұрын
@edc1569 yes all the signs in the airport is translated in English and Chinese also many bank of China ads! Maybe China has a stake in the budapest airport I don't know there should be pics on Google maps of the signs ( Gates, toilets, passport control etc)
@hefywefy5331
12 күн бұрын
The entire country is full of Chinese stuff. I wouldn't mind if Chinese product quality wouldn't be terrible
@donaldlee8249
12 күн бұрын
There’s a lot of Chinese living in Budapest fyi
@weiserwolf580
12 күн бұрын
@@donaldlee8249 yes,yes..., in the famous Chinese overseas territory, called Hungary, there are many Chinese, most of them working for the security forces of coloni... i mean for the forces for prosperity and peace, ALL HAIL THE CCP!!!
Poland learned their lesson already, non of what China promised was fulfilled
@KG-ii2yx
3 күн бұрын
way better than allying with the US
@giovannip8600
20 сағат бұрын
???? when?
Portugal is saying hi
Do a video about a list of European countries that are vessels of the United States. That will be a lot I promised.
Fun fact: After the fall of the SovietChina and Lithuania(and other eastern European states) actually used to have great relationships as anti-colonise anti-great power states.
SHOW THE FRICKING MAP OMG
As a Taiwanese, i cannot literally enter Serbia.
@rasbro87
9 күн бұрын
How come? Since when? In my previous company (in Belgrade) we worked with company from Taipei. I was in Taipei with Serbian passport (but we had to get ROC visas through ambassy in Hungary actually). But lots of our partners from Taipei were in Belgrade lots of times so there must be a way for a person with Taiwanese passport to enter Serbia if you have visa. Maybe something changed since Covid.
So you just cooked it up out of an opinion poll you flash on the screen for half a second 1:36 and do not mention. Peak journalism.
Czech here. We are still being reeled by the shocking situation in Slovakia where a Putin sympathiser came to power. We remember how China threatened us over our deal with Taiwan despite we didn't see it as a violation of One-China.
@florencebaendes2853
12 күн бұрын
Who cares what you see? Don't mess with others' politics
@Booz2020
12 күн бұрын
Slava 🇹🇼 Heroyam TAIWANese 🦾
@whatisayoutubehandlebro
12 күн бұрын
the European arrogance is unmatched. you don't see it as a violation, so everyone including the Chinese must conform to how you 'see it'
@diomuda7903
12 күн бұрын
@@whatisayoutubehandlebro What about Pakistani hypocrisies? You claim Muslim but you assault your Muslim friends.
@diomuda7903
12 күн бұрын
@@whatisayoutubehandlebro What about Pakistani hypocrisies? You claim Muslim but you assault your Muslim friends.
Almost like cold war borders
@FernandoPerez3h.
12 күн бұрын
kinda.
@louisjefferies2733
12 күн бұрын
Except the baltics
@Sebastian-fk3gs
12 күн бұрын
We are living in a New "Cold war"
@hackman669
11 күн бұрын
Outside the weather is so frightful. But inside it's so delightful. Let it snow ❄ Let it snow ❄ Let it snow ❄😅
@dyawr
10 күн бұрын
Where do you see it's like the cold war borders?
I don't think we can be surprised by Serbia (which isn't even an EU member as detailed), since the 1999 bombing. Serbia is symbolic because it has ties to Russia, so naturally it has been on Russia and China's side. About Hungary, I feel we are separating apart. In Poland today, we are seeing not a Hungary that has remembered the 1956 oppression, but a megalomaniac who tries to stay cozy to Putin. We are so disappointed by it.
@toyotaprius79
12 күн бұрын
A fascist
@308_Negra_Arroyo_Lane
12 күн бұрын
Neither is the UK. As detailed.
@marciusnhasty
12 күн бұрын
Hungary has internally revisioned history into "being occupied by Germany during WW2". That leads into your point, as in the new dogma Hungary claims it was liberated by USSR.
@GetFochD
12 күн бұрын
@@toyotaprius79hahahahahahahhahahahahah like our overlord Biden isn't a fascist
@user-gl8yv1du5u
12 күн бұрын
Long live the EU the US and the wonderful Polish people
Pretty long video to say Serbia and Hungary are opportunistic and France/Germany can't get their Strategic Autonomy/Ambiguity thing working properly.
@dallysinghson5569
11 күн бұрын
Serbia and Hungary are neo communists.
There are some people, cultures and nations that actually believe in the values they espouse. That actually have loyalty, and honour, and respect. Both the Chinese and the Serbs have one trait in common - they never forget when you help them. They actually have something called loyalty.
I love how this guy accuses China of divide and conquer. That is straight out of the US regime's playbook. Look how it has split Taiwan further from the rest of China, how it severed Kosovo from the rest of Serbia, and even broke up Yugoslavia, and want to do the same to Russia.
@nihil_hd1598
12 күн бұрын
"I love how this guy accuses China of divide and conquer.That is straight Out of the US regine's playbook' This tactic was always used by different Empires, especially european ones
@hackman669
11 күн бұрын
You mean Vrits right ✅😅
@mrraam2151
10 күн бұрын
Absolutely, this guy is a propaganda machine always singing in tune to US foreign policy 😂😂😂 Unfortunately the ship is sinking, some are clever enough to understand it 😊
@dantsai5216
5 күн бұрын
Taiwan has never been a part of PRC
@thematthew761
5 күн бұрын
Taiwan was always the ROC!
In translation, Xi Jinping visited the only 3 independent countries in Europe that are not in the closed-minded European sect of America's vassal colonies, with the exception of Russia and Belarus.
lol the mandarin tone of "Xi jin ping" is perfect
@machovalkarie7896
12 күн бұрын
Xi jin ping pong
That desk received copious amounts of love from your left hand. Smooth and gentle caress.
You really should take a pause between pronouncing Vucic and Orban, sounded like Vucicohorban😄
They're not pro-China, they are pro-business. Apart from trading perspectives, no European country supports nor is inspired by the Chinese model, believe me. Trading with them doesn't imply we're pro-China, business is just business and is a need for our population.
@macattack5863
12 күн бұрын
Pragmatism is respectable. Honestly once the west secures it's own chip and metals supplies I will be against the United States' hawkish stance towards China.
@sutheman86
12 күн бұрын
Yeah we can definitely see how this is going. CCP literally buying our (ROC, or Taiwan) diplomatic countries away by money.
@XBuilderBob
12 күн бұрын
and what happens when China needs some diplomatic weight thrown around like denying Taiwan's autonomy? sure would be a shame if those fancy new businesses and trade deals evaporated if they don't say what Whinnie the pooh over there wants. Guess Germany didn't learn anything from being so closely tied economically to Russia
@rnbpl
11 күн бұрын
What? The technocratic EU government is directly inspired by the Chinese government. Old European countries are now provinces that have the "autonomy" to implement the laws the central government tell them to. They both have a meme parliament rubber stamping directives by non-elected officials, and they both have extensive internet censorship and laws against freedom of speech
@jovansvedic8423
10 күн бұрын
100%
Wolf warrior diplomacy isn't easily forgotten.
The UK really can’t afford to be anti anything. The country is so pathetic since the 21st century
Why was Romania green on the map lol?
@weiserwolf580
12 күн бұрын
tbh from the Romanian perspective, anyone who is a friend of Hungary is an enemy of Romania
@cosmindvd
5 күн бұрын
Clickbait, they are irresponsible.
You are confusing Europe with the EU. What is the point of the video?
7:01 him... Now where have I seen Germany do this before?
You know, maybe don't put Poland as being pro-china in the thumbnail without explaining your reasoning...
"Just a mouse under the foot of an elephant" high praise given how elephants back away and give mice a wide berth, possibly because they are afraid of mice but it's hard to tell what is going on inside an animal's head.
@awsblacknight6956
12 күн бұрын
From what I recall, I think scientists believe this is an evolutionary fear from the potential of a mouse entering their trunk?
@kapperbeastYT
12 күн бұрын
@@awsblacknight6956see my mind went to disease, but your scenario is 100 times worse
@joeyjojojrshabadoo7462
11 күн бұрын
Are elephant actually scared of mice is it that just from cartoon shows?
@dyawr
10 күн бұрын
I think it's prob their instinct of not stepping on other animals. Mice are small and move very fast.
What about Poland or Italy.
Lithuania must be one of the most politically reliable nations on the EU side of things. In NATO terms, they are an important ally.
@blueskull1119
12 күн бұрын
Nope, they are too small to matter. There numbers are Negligible
@yuliusseraph4973
12 күн бұрын
Lithuania talks big game because they have nothing to lose lmao, they were BARELY uplifted to sapience by Europe and still is an economic sink. They are still Eastern Europeans in many regards. While UK, France and Germany have actual economy, industries and culture, and reasons to be against/for cooperation with China other than overcompensation.
@dai-belizariusz3087
12 күн бұрын
in NATO terms they are liability
@dai-belizariusz3087
12 күн бұрын
@@yuliusseraph4973 least xenophobic westoid
@rytisgluoksnys4505
12 күн бұрын
@@yuliusseraph4973 Lithuania has nothing to lose? o.O We are literally poking a bear that is our borders attacking it's neighbors. From Europe subsidies, we are nearly don't receive more than contribute, not that far off. You know nothing, you can think nothing of a substance, don't share stupid things that bounce around in your head to others please.
Russia is 40% of europe and by far the most populous country in europe. Even if you do not count the trans ural oblasts, russia still has the largest population in Europe. Why are they not on the scale?
@thegamerv2346
10 күн бұрын
There’s been an intellectual push by poles and Ukrainians as well as their collaborators to label Russia an Asian country which is technically true Russia is both European and asian
Europe needs Unity.
@husel7748
9 күн бұрын
a desperate effort. US/RU/CN/UK: good dream, honey
France, Japan, Australia, USA and Philippines just had a large naval exercise in the West Philippine Sea called Balikatan exercise.
@hackman669
11 күн бұрын
Gangsters in the hood doing everything they could!😅 Bros break it down. Sing it. "We are family. All my brathas, sisters and me!😂
I don’t think that Xi is looking to … “divide and conquer”; I think it’s a geopolitical trip between China and several European countries; no different to any other geopolitical trip between any other country of the world and Europe. I think the topic of conversation behind closed doors on the table was … Peace Friendship Trade Again, no different to any other geopolitical trip between two countries.
@hackman669
11 күн бұрын
Yeah right.Mean while supporting the bear 🐻 who eats all the sheep 🐑😅
@rasbro87
9 күн бұрын
It just so happened "by accident" that Xi landed in Belgrade exactly on the date of 25th anniversary of "accidental" bombing of China's ambassy in Belgrade by NATO in 1999. Yeah.
It would be amazing for Serbia to join the BRICS.
@nicolaspoveda3675
12 күн бұрын
Why?
@ZoranJovic-li2ee
12 күн бұрын
@@nicolaspoveda3675 because
@dibassarkar2898
12 күн бұрын
@@ZoranJovic-li2ee fair enough reason
@milostomic8539
10 күн бұрын
We should. Chinese president invited us to join.
If you are democratic countries,then you should respect every country...
@hopeintruth5119
12 күн бұрын
That's makes no sense at all. I don't see why they have too
Should be rephrased to: Which European countries are MOST independent?
I want to see what happens in the future for those who made deals with the Chinese. I'm not racist but from this situation we will see how things really are on both sides. At the moment they are coming to be producer as we have done for them before but I don't think that they will teach something interesting.
These scales are probably based on government policies and popular opinions, which can probably differ greatly and very rarely align given that in democracy everyone is suspicious of their government
Perfect clickbait. You should feel ashamed
No mention of Italy, the 3rd economy in the EU?
@hackman669
11 күн бұрын
They on the China gravy train. Chu, chu yeah.😅
@lucadesanctis563
10 күн бұрын
@@hackman669 Belt and Road was scrapped. So no
@nailil5722
5 күн бұрын
they are cutting ties, EU stance is clear by now, only Hungary is a pain in the ahh as usual
This seems like an unfinished video. The thumbnail is not even mentioned and the advertisement in the last 2 minutes is faar too long und unnecessary
How about you do a video about Irish politics (such as the rise of independents in the polls)
I miss the dislike button, nowdays people are not afraid to misjudge the public for the views(thumbnail + content). About the video, very little information given, driven to confuse the public. Evaluation: 2/5
Since only 51% of Taiwan’s population is Taiwanese, it is awkward for you celebrate Lithuania’s “Taiwanese Representative Office in Lithuania”. The office flies the Republic of China flag while it excludes 49% of the population under ROC control Only 40% of Taiwan voters support secessionist candidates, 60% favor continuing peaceful relations with the mainland You are misinformed
You should comment on the tomorrow elections in Catalonia, it might seriously impact the future of European nationalities struggle for autonomy
Correction. 10:21. 100% of the countries in the world and the UN support the once China policy. The countries of the world that represent 99% percent of the people of the world and the UN said Taiwan is part of China AND the PRC is the only legal government of China. The other countries that represent less then 1% of the people of the world also said Taiwan part of China but the ROC is the only legal government of China.
UK is heavily anti-China? Two possibilities then: -The Chinese must be doing a lot of things right -The Chinese have stopped pouring funds into the British economy, which would explain why British attitudes towards them moved from favourable to unfavourable (as with the Russians)
@joekertesz8470
12 күн бұрын
💯
@sorin_channel
10 күн бұрын
aka ”I don't like the UK which means everybody who is against them are the ones I like."
China can't transferring batteries because has a risk of disasters happening during transportation. EU and USA have these strict rules in place for a reason. Remember those disasters in the past? Some ships or planes had issues. But get this, while Europe might seem all strict about it, some countries like Serbia, Germany, and France are actually opening up to the idea of making batteries. It's like they're saying, "Hey, let's make some jobs, folks!" And don't even get me started on the history between China and Greece. I mean, we're talking about navy exchanges going back like 3000 years. That's no joke. And Piraeus Port It's practically a symbol of that ancient connection. But here's the kicker, some folks in Europe are giving China the side-eye over all this. They're saying Europe's got too many crazy rules, you know, making things harder than they need to be. But hey, that's just how it is. Reason is the following.... (others: Greece? we want part of the cake) The Port of Piraeus in Greece, dubbed the 'Dragon’s Head' of China's Belt and Road Initiative, has seen significant investment from China's state-owned enterprise COSCO. While shipowners and the Greek government have benefited economically, local communities and workers have faced challenges. Port workers have protested low pay and safety concerns, while environmental impacts and lack of public consultation have alienated locals. The Greek government, in a financial crisis in 2010, welcomed COSCO's investment. However, there's been criticism regarding the lack of enforcement of EU regulations and engagement with local stakeholders. Addressing these issues requires better enforcement of existing regulations, engagement with stakeholders, and systematic dialogue to balance economic growth with local concerns.
3:00 TLDR News EU..... The Chinese stance is the ONE CHINA PRINCIPLE. The ONE CHINA POLICY is an American held position.
TLDR, what did you mean by the thumnail? Why do you think we like China?
@jacksmith-mu3ee
12 күн бұрын
Everyone likes China .
Actually 5 eye countries (minus New Zealand) are pretty negative on China.
@user-uw5ps6nr8g
12 күн бұрын
Hi,someone from New Zealand here. We are becoming more negative towards China
@winedragon
12 күн бұрын
What does that have to do with Europe?
@user-uw5ps6nr8g
12 күн бұрын
@@winedragon guess what country in the 5 eye is in Europe?
@winedragon
12 күн бұрын
@@user-uw5ps6nr8g You couldn't possible mean the one already covered in the video?
@user-uw5ps6nr8g
12 күн бұрын
@@winedragon maybe?
As a Hungarian, I didn’t expect those statistics from the population While a lot of people in our population still support the government, opposition voters are pretty much overwhelmingly anti-China (only a very small portion of them could be classified as pro-China, but they are usually even further to the right than Orbán, and only do that because they really vehemently hate Europe and the US), and there are a lot of public fears about China’s growing influence here. The railways built recently cost a lot, and it doesn’t help that it seems like Orbán wanted to replace EU funds with Chinese loans, so he can steal from them as long as EU funds are frozen. However, we all know what happens to a country when they can’t pay their loans back. There are also a lot of fears about the recent battery factories, as our environmental regulations are probably the weakest in the EU, and they are known to be very polluting. I imagine even some of the pro-Fidesz crowd is afraid of this. Then again, maybe all of this positivity is from government voters, but even in their case, I expected a lot of them to be more neutral. While Orbán is pretty much pro-China, he only very recently started including this in his propaganda. Before that, he bashed the EU a lot, but focused more on pro-Russia views, and didn’t really talk about China publically, doing deals under the table and just mentioning them as the “traditional East” against the “declining West” at most. So it’s surprising that the support from them is that high, as they didn’t talk about China a lot before; really. There is unfortunately also some racism against Asians, which is on the rise recently thanks to foreign Asian workers arriving to our country (they don’t really do anything wrong, but you can imagine how a rural person who never left the village before in his life feels when people speaking different languages arrive).
@beeecig2873
12 күн бұрын
Hallod haver ebbe bele tetted szívedet lelekedet... És tényleg nem látod, hogy (vagy trollkodsz) mindent vissza vesznek amit az "dremokrata/szocilasta" kormányok eladtak? Lopnak? Remélem is én sem csinálnám 2misiért ezt! De nem a népet lopják meg azzal, hogy eladják a stratégiai infrastruktúrát! Az EU meg a DS seggnyalója évek óta bizonyítja, hogy nem EU érdekeket képvisel hanem az U.S.A csicskása. Rasszizmusról hablatyolsz? Na ne ez a kulcs szó a hitbéli elvtársaidnak erre uszítanak országokon át majd tele basszák illegális alakokkal és ha pl kitennéd német nyuggerként a német zászlót Berlinben akkor a rendörség veteti le veled mert olyat nem lehet? Troll geci remélem meggyőződésből írod és nem pénzért mert akkor egy kibaszott nagy barom lehetsz! Puszikák😁🤣😅🥰
@Hardcore_Remixer
12 күн бұрын
Of course the support from conservatives towards trading with China is high. Same goods at a lower price. As a conservative I assure you that we don't think about global or international objectives such as environmentalism and who we trade with, but only economy and how our lifes go. China trades stuff for cheap. Russia trades oil and gas for cheap. Environmentalism is expensive and Hungary is relatively poor. All these kind of justify our position as conservatives. Most of us aren't even pro-Russia or pro-China. We just don't bother to avoid making trade with them if it helps us. We don't try to make a passive cold war with them. Spending less for more goods means more money remain for the country and its people. And last I checked the entire EU doesn't even reach 1% of the global emissions. When I saw videos with the Just Stop Oil protesters blocking roads in West European countries like France and UK I knew I want that behaviour outlawed as it wastes time, resources and only causes well justified hate.
@joekertesz8470
12 күн бұрын
Well, Hungarians are racist for sure. But than again they dont like anyone.
@boarfaceswinejaw4516
12 күн бұрын
@@Hardcore_Remixer the problem is that china and russia trades goods for cheap specifically to undermine competition. China wont use sweatshop labor to undermine educated labor in europe forever, and as competition dies chinese goods will increase in cost until we reach a point where we become reliant on china for products. This is the problem with the "conservative" approach you got, because you completely disregard the long term, you disregard your own country and your countrymen's ability to thrive and endure. even enviromentalism is ultimately a long term investments in the enviromental health of your country, aka the ability for farmers to farm without having to fear irregular floods and droughts that could cripple industry. and thats without mentioning the risks of letting countries like china and russia grow more powerful. we saw what happened to ukraine. doesnt matter how profitable the trade is when one madman's ambitions for land could cripple your nation in terms of people and economy for decades if not centuries to come. This is why Hungary is so goddamn poor in the first place. This mentality is why the situation got so horrible for hungary in world war 2. disregard for the long term in the name of short term opportunism.
@csjmb6193
12 күн бұрын
@@Hardcore_Remixer makes sense.
Hi, would you like someone who helps with the Hungarian pronunciations?
@pbworld7858
12 күн бұрын
sz is pronounced like Polish s, and s is pronounced like Polish sz.
@defcotheone3241
12 күн бұрын
@@pbworld7858 i do nit speak polish friend. Nie rozumiem bo esztem vengjerkom. :) As a hungarian I wanted to offer them my help. :D
@pbworld7858
12 күн бұрын
@@defcotheone3241 Hungarian sz is like English s and Hungarian s is like English sh. Szia
@pbworld7858
12 күн бұрын
@@defcotheone3241 Szia or see ya
@defcotheone3241
12 күн бұрын
@@pbworld7858 na ide figyelj kis barátom. Nem értem mit nem értessz. De azt irtam nekik, hogy nem szeretnének-e valakit aki segit a magyar kiejtéssel. Mert Debrecent nem Debrecsennek mondják. But thanks otherwise, we need more friendly people.
LMAO they don't even put Czechia on the map in red and non-EU countries in green. Poland is not even mentioned once in this video despite being shown in the thumbnail. Indie journalism at its finest
Stop Clickbaiting when you are aiming to be a professional/serious news chanel!
@Hardcore_Remixer
12 күн бұрын
They aren't aiming for that. If they did then they'd get rid of bias.
Speaking frankly, it seems there may be some misunderstandings regarding Lithuania's stance, unless they can demonstrate that they have not been influenced by a particular logic, such as that of the United States. On the issue of Taiwan, it's perceived as quite disappointing when a country deviates from its long-standing position. Such actions can be viewed negatively. Moreover, it's puzzling to see that such a course of action does not appear to benefit their nation in any way. For a smaller country to offend a larger one and avoid a fate similar to that of Ukraine is indeed remarkable." This translation aims to communicate the original message's concerns without resorting to derogatory language or personal attacks, which is crucial in diplomatic communications.
EU thought Russia was nice too, but we all know how that turned out, let’s hope Europe doesn’t make the same mistake twice
@Hardcore_Remixer
12 күн бұрын
Russia started the war with Ukraine, not with EU which decided to involve in this.
The problem is for countries trying to have close ties with China, is that the closer they get, the more the country in question better behave themselves, China doesn't have any conditions on those countries, just as long as the government toes the line with China, in other words, to hell with the people in those countries, and it isn't by chance that China is making friends with countries that want to run like a dictatorship, the warning signs are there for the people living in those countries, and I feel sorry for what could happen if they get too close to China and try to show any independent thought. At the end of the day, the only thing that really matters is quality of life and living standards, you have to ask yourself, who is more likely going to deliver that, the EU or China? The EU have a proven track record on delivering that, whereas China, I sense want those countries to toe the line with China's interest, its geopolitics, which rarely is in the interest of the people, but honestly, maybe the EU and west at large, should throw these countries to the wolves, they'll learn far quicker this way, but it would be unfortunate for the people living in those countries as those are the ones that will likely get screwed over, but sometimes that needs to happen, because sometimes people don't want to learn, Hungary is a prime example of that, which should be thrown out of the EU, throw them towards Russia and China and see how well that goes for the people in the country, because honestly, the EU can keep banging its head against the wall trying to help these countries, but unless the people wake up and help themselves, then what's the point? but seriously, the EU has been way too soft on Hungary and Orbán takes advantage of that, it's time to throw Hungary out and let the wolves feast on them lol.
Germany wants important commercial ties with Russia. We all know how well that ended. Now Germany pursue commercial ties with China. They never learn, do they? In the meantime they criticise countries that run a deficit when their own surplus is only due to their commerce with questionable partners.
@Groza_Sadika
12 күн бұрын
The solution is obvious for the Germans to be honest. Fuck the EU, problem solved
@Pointi69
12 күн бұрын
Its simple lack of alternatives . Because we Germans have an Export economic. So you need to buy cheap and export for big money. We don't have much ressources so there is not really an alternative. So Germany will always have to take the risk to get cheap ressources.
@idraote
12 күн бұрын
@@Pointi69 An export economy is unbalanced and it is not sustainable in the long run. Especially not if Germany tries to maintain a façade of credibility, a ethical high ground among its peers and, at the same time, it make deals with the scum of the Earth. I remember very well German politicians blaming Spain, Greece and most of all Italy for their "crimes against humanity" when dealing with refugees. The same politicians who have accepted Russian money to fund their elections.
@free_manipur_from_india
12 күн бұрын
This, they also forget that China destroyed Nordstream and spying on their government.
@SDluka
11 күн бұрын
It ended when US destroyed the North Stream, you forgot that detail lol.
Yes Bulgarians love China!
@yipzoe3865
12 күн бұрын
Majority of Hongkong people still prefer British rule evan after 26 years of handover to China, they prefer to be a British colony rather than a Chinese city, why? If Chinese Communist government really treat their own people well, how come majority of Hongkong people prefer to be ruled by a foreigner?
@user-dt5nj3uk2s
12 күн бұрын
And that is why Bulgaria will stay poor 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@solderboy7452
12 күн бұрын
@@user-dt5nj3uk2s Yes after joining EU we are even more poor !!!fact!!!
@sahewyang
12 күн бұрын
@@yipzoe3865 Robot, stop the behaviour of brushing comments in the comment section, you are caught in a cocoon of information created by the western media. During the communist era China could not trade directly with foreign countries and had to use Hong Kong as a transit point for trade with other countries, Hong Kong prospered because of this and it was China that made Hong Kong what it is. After China's reform and opening up, Hong Kong's economic status was replaced by Shenzhen and Shanghai, and Hong Kong's prosperity was a product of a special period. Hong Kong's prosperity was a product of a special period. Now that Hong Kong's economy is fully supported by China, Hong Kong will slowly return to its rightful position.😅
@Hardcore_Remixer
12 күн бұрын
@@user-dt5nj3uk2s Stay poor because of spending less? Doesn't make sense.
China is a tough one to handle, but you nailed it when you said that a more unified tone would be more effective than 28 dissonant voices.
I don't understand.. We speak about Lithuania with less 3 milion of people and not of italy, Spain and Poland
European Union member states exhibit favorable attitudes towards China due to recent high-level visits, such as the German Prime Minister's trip to China and President Xi's visits to France and Hungary, indicating significant economic incentives at play.
@TheBooban
12 күн бұрын
Germany visited China. But China doesn’t visit Germany? That says alot.
@smal750
12 күн бұрын
@@TheBooban they dont care about american lapdogs tbh
@JetSetVF
12 күн бұрын
@@TheBooban The German Chancellor just visited Xi mere days ago, Germany isn't some kind of clingy lover thats needs constant validation. At least I hope not.
I am a Bulgarian and i can say that for Bulgaria, WE LOVE RUSSIA AND CHINA. We are brothers with the Russians and we support them and our common Orthodox Faith and our Slavic Brotherhood. We also support China because as Macedonia is Bulgarian, Taiwan is Chinese!
@geofflepper3207
12 күн бұрын
Actually Taiwan has never been part of Communist China, not even for a second, and the Communist China dictatorship has no credibility to represent or control even the people of Mainland China let alone the people of Taiwan because it has never been elected in a democratic election. Even if Taiwan is historically part of China it is not part of Communist China any more than is South Korea part of North Korea. Don't cater to oppressive dictatorships. It makes you look opportunistic, amoral and somewhat pitiful and pathetic.
@AthanasiosJapan
12 күн бұрын
Macedonia is Greece, since ancient times.
@user-xq2kb5lk2j
12 күн бұрын
@@geofflepper3207What a ridiculous logic. Mainland China and Taiwan are both Chinese territories. What does it have to do with which ruling party? The ruling party should control all the territory in China. The ruling party has the obligation to safeguard the territorial unity of the country. The Communist Party of China is composed of Chinese people. Political parties, this is legality. Did the Creator tell you that you must vote for it to be legal? As a Chinese, I don’t feel oppressed. I feel very free. I feel that there are even ancient monarchs and nobles. Using political correctness Restricting freedom of speech and using political manipulation to create ridiculous confrontations to fake democracy is oppression. North Korea and South Korea are independent sovereign states, but Taiwan is not. Taiwan was not an independent country before, is not an independent country now, and will never be an independent country in the future. Now it's just a place ruled by another Chinese party
@jds1275
10 күн бұрын
@@user-xq2kb5lk2j Sure, Taiwan is an independent country. It is older than the CCP. It is all that's left of the previous, more legitimate government of China. The CCP hasn't won the war against the Republic of China, it just forced them off of the mainland and established a new country where they had power. The only way both mainland China and Taiwan can ever be legitimately under a single government is if the ROC is returned to power over the whole thing. But of course, we could even go back to restoring the Qing Empire, since the ROC was a rebellion against them before the commies rebelled against the ROC. Anyways communist governments are never and will never be legitimate.
Ah, I remember your country pins.
If EU just let the trade between china and EU run free like a real free market seems like tension would be gone🤷. About quality and price just let the customers decide for themselves what they want
Everyone (almost) is pro money
@Hardcore_Remixer
12 күн бұрын
Finally someone said it.
I think it is pretts simple: some countries need investment, which is lacking. China cam provide that.
@rytisgluoksnys4505
12 күн бұрын
What china provides is loans to country that can't afford them and supports projects that are not economically viable, yes China can provide that and does and there is countless examples of it being disastrous for economy.
@skazka3789
12 күн бұрын
@@rytisgluoksnys4505BYD is the largest electric vehicle manufacturer in the world. Hungary's GDP growth is going to be accelerated by its factory. Not only BYD but also CATL which is the world leader in electric batteries. Orban is very pragmatic
@rytisgluoksnys4505
12 күн бұрын
@skazka3789 they are large not because they are good, because they are heavily subsidized by ccp, if you think BYD can have any success in European market, you are clueless on top of the fact ev are still small fraction of car market and ev market has shown slow growth already.
@IamHandsome4u
12 күн бұрын
@@rytisgluoksnys4505 wt are the examples? Pls enlighten us.
@skazka3789
12 күн бұрын
@@rytisgluoksnys4505 You are utterly clueless if you think they are not good. In fact they are technically more advanced than European and Americans
The myth of Orban as the “saviour of Europe” could not be laid more bare. This is the guy who says he can’t wait for the Chinese state to become the global hegemon.
@ncs9753
13 сағат бұрын
He's right because the alternative is rainbow mafia neoliberal globalist which is a threat to Hungarian tradition and culture.
Chad Lithuania. Gz from Poland
The EU needs to start thinking for itself instead of being dragged into the US’s disastrous foreign policy.
@mnm1273
12 күн бұрын
That's specifically what the EU has been doing. It doesn't mean they should unconditionally adore China.
@lcoyle1998
12 күн бұрын
You're right. The EU/Europe needs to be more aggressive about decoupling from China and supporting democracies throughout the world against authoritarian states.
@Williamg..
12 күн бұрын
European Army More investment and trade with Africa Nuclear reactors 👍
@Puntonghua
12 күн бұрын
@@mnm1273 that’s exactly not what they have been doing. The EU does whatever the US wants it to do. The only one showing some backbone is France!
@Puntonghua
12 күн бұрын
@@lcoyle1998 by supporting democracies you mean invading other countries like Russia or overthrowing democratically elected governments or supporting genocide like the US!? 😂🤦🏽♂️ The war in Ukraine could have been avoided if there EU had a backbone and prising it’s own foreign policy instead of running after the US like a lost puppy! Decoupling from China is a pipe dream, that had to be done decades ago. If you think inflation is a problem now, wait and see what’s going to happen if the EU tries to decouple from China 🤦🏽♂️.
Comment section hating on Serbia so hard
@TheFisterin
12 күн бұрын
Well morons be morons😂
@SpamTown
10 күн бұрын
Comment section has been mostly bots for a while.
Macron first talked about strategic autonomy and that Europe may die, and then he met with XI, who has a plan to colonize Europe and divide it investing in countries like Serbia and Hungary.
Interesting
Lithuania exchanging Red china for Blue China
@Puntonghua
12 күн бұрын
More like exchanging the USSR for the US
@winedragon
12 күн бұрын
@@Puntonghua Definitely an upgrade
@bprogressive
12 күн бұрын
@@winedragon🤣🤣
@Puntonghua
12 күн бұрын
@@winedragon I would definitely have to agree. But “To be an enemy of the US is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger Their country their choice though 🤷🏽♂️
@rytisgluoksnys4505
12 күн бұрын
@@Puntonghua Ah yes, all those country that got worst due to friendly relations with US, that whole list of 0 countries, youre delusional.
let me guess Hungary, Serbia, Russia, Belarus, Spain Greece, Portugal and macron
Always liked Lithuania. We all should be like them.
It’s not ccp it’s cpc.
TLDR is the reason I ended my subscrption at Nebula.
@user-dt5nj3uk2s
12 күн бұрын
Cry more please
Hi randomly scrolling hooman take care of urself :)
@Williamg..
12 күн бұрын
Okay😂
1:51 wrong route.
Chinese government needs more chill.
BRO I was expecting him to talk about POLAND, and OTHER countires coundt care less about what UK thinks and whats Lithuanias standing on China
Victor needs to support his “own” autocracy 😅
@theuralictribes5689
6 күн бұрын
You mean the same way EU does by being colonies of the US? Ok, show me proof and evidence of Hungary being a dictatorship and Orban being a Dictator. :D
Guys why don’t you make a video about the university protests in amsterdam? Student got beaten, and bulldozed by the authorities!
@yipzoe3865
12 күн бұрын
if majority of people dislike the government, they can click them out with their votes, can people in China click out their government with votes? Do forget the massacre in Tiananmen square in 1989
@sahewyang
12 күн бұрын
@@yipzoe3865 Robot, stop the behaviour of brushing comments in the comment section, you are caught in a cocoon of information created by the western media. During the communist era China could not trade directly with foreign countries and had to use Hong Kong as a transit point for trade with other countries, Hong Kong prospered because of this and it was China that made Hong Kong what it is. After China's reform and opening up, Hong Kong's economic status was replaced by Shenzhen and Shanghai, and Hong Kong's prosperity was a product of a special period. Hong Kong's prosperity was a product of a special period. Now that Hong Kong's economy is fully supported by China, Hong Kong will slowly return to its rightful position.😅
Funny but is there really no truth in the "flea on the ground of fighting elephants." Lithuania LOL shanghai alone has what 10times its gdp???
Hungary is getting FDI and new tech manufacturing capacities and THE EU HATES IT
@rytisgluoksnys4505
12 күн бұрын
Looking at belt and road initiatives if anyone should hate that, it should Hungarians
@VVayVVard
12 күн бұрын
If Hungary can't pay the debt, China will presumably demand a 99-year-lease on some strategic location, like it has done previously e.g. in Sri Lanka. So it's generally bad news for the EU, though I'm not sure most Hungarians would be thrilled by the prospect either.
@MrFalut
12 күн бұрын
@@VVayVVard it's a manufacturing plant, not a BRI infrastructure project that generates no money