Nationalists not getting along with another nations, im flabbergasted

@mihaimaracine5373

11 күн бұрын

Yeah normal parties shouldn t care about their nations if it benefits the EU

@mihaimaracine5373

11 күн бұрын

Also did you even watch the video? Or are you just a yt bot posting random shit because this does not relate

@beanoboy62

11 күн бұрын

​@@mihaimaracine5373 what are you talking about?

@oqocraft2661

11 күн бұрын

@@mihaimaracine5373 Also did you even watch the video? Or are you just a yt bot posting random shit because this does not relate

@Adri9570

11 күн бұрын

- Someone doesn't respect my traditions? Hold my beer! - Teammates from the same party group: no, I won't hold that stinky beverage. *_Captain Europe: Civil W4r, first release in 2024_*

When european right-wingers just said "we are right-wing but not hungary lvl right-wing"💀

@fullmetaltheorist

11 күн бұрын

Hungary is so right wing even the others are like "dude youre doing too much."

@leekleek1

11 күн бұрын

Hungary is the average right wing everyone would agree with 20 years ago. What's different is Orban has the political power to stop left wingers at the door & actually conserve

@la1sk203

11 күн бұрын

Hungary ain't even that right wing just dicktatorial and authoritarian and getting more corrupt

@triceratops7084

11 күн бұрын

Hungary is not even more right wing than any of the others,its that the ukraine war hawk lobby wants to keep funding their war no matter what

@Anonymous6634

11 күн бұрын

Orban is not only pro-Putin, he is also pro-China and Erdogan's ally.

How can you skip on the Russia question? ID is very Russia-friendly, whereas ECR is strongly against Russia

@thedutchfoxxx

10 күн бұрын

It's not that simple. Fidesz joining ECR would make it a lot more pro-Russia, whereas Lepen is more pro-Ukrainian leaning despite being in ID.

@lawtraf8008

10 күн бұрын

@@thedutchfoxxx Le pen pro-Ukrainian leaning? As a French, I have to tell you that you don't know what you're talking about. She's very pro-Russia and here in France, we all know that. She has been in hot water last year because of her and her party were exposed for being funded millions by dodgy Russian banks for years for their campaigns.

@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana

10 күн бұрын

@@thedutchfoxxx Calling the Anti-Russia side "Pro-Ukrainian" is silly. Everyone knows their anti-Russia stance is what motivates them.

@713max

10 күн бұрын

@@thedutchfoxxx "Lepen is more pro-Ukrainian" I don't where this come from, but it is so wrong. She and her party vote against sending weapons to Ukraine. She has distanced herself from Russia since the invasion, but she has always seen Putin as a role model.

@pz4336

10 күн бұрын

@@713max her official position is to support ukraine, you need to update your information

Nothing surprising here. Right wingers, like their left counterparts, are not a monolith. That's what a healthy political landscape looks like. If everybody started agreeing with each other, then I would start to worry.

@meilinchan7314

10 күн бұрын

As a Malaysian i can confirm that this last part about the need to worry is true.

@Enden31

10 күн бұрын

I would argue that a more healthy political landscape would not include f*scists but a diverse normal right wing is great indeed

@herberthoover1257

9 күн бұрын

incredibly sane take

@volumist

9 күн бұрын

The myth of "leftist infighting", comes from the fact that during Spanish Civil War, nationalists had Franco merging and holding the front, while republicans had lolwho, whom no one respected and republicans even dared to rise up against. You see that if right wing doesn't have a respectable figure leading them, they would be as divided as leftist cointerpart.

@SubjectiveFunny

9 күн бұрын

There is no right anymore. The left weaponizes social behaviors and drives the right away through fear of being called racist and through financial repercussions. There is no balance.

This is not really surprising to me. The EU is by its very nature a multi national organisation. Nationalists as a general rule want their nation to be predominant or perhaps even a hegemonic. It does not surprise me that most of them are euro-sceptic as the EU is a power theoretically above their nation, but it also doesn't surprise me that they have difficulty working together as they are nationalists of competing nationalities so are natural enemies as their theoretical ideal scenarios are in direct opposition.

@mathias5578

11 күн бұрын

''natural enemies'' People with similar mindsets are not natural enemies.

@mrhills8868

11 күн бұрын

Doesn't make too much sense. You're talking about two different groups that comprise of different nationalities, not different nations. For example. Salvini (Italy) from ID gets along with Le Pen from France much more then Meloni from Italy. The differences are ideological, not national. ID wants the EU to die, ECR wants it to live. That's the point of conflict.

@incurableromantic4006

11 күн бұрын

You clearly don't understand the modern right. In all of these countries, their priorities are stopping mass-immigration and preserving their own cultures. You can put an Irish, English, German and Italian nationalist in the same discussion: and they agree on far more than they disagree on. They loath the left in their own country far more than they loath the country next door. This isn't 1850 anymore, and European nationalists really are not thinking much about annexing some province on the border.

@incurableromantic4006

11 күн бұрын

You clearly don't understand the modern right. In all of these countries, their priorities are stopping mass-immigration and preserving their own cultures. You can put an Irish, English, German and Italian nationalist in the same discussion: and they agree on far more than they disagree on. They dislike the left in their own country far more than they dislike the country next door. This isn't 1850 anymore, and European nationalists really are not thinking much about annexing some province on the border.

@captainvanisher988

11 күн бұрын

Nationalism usually doesn't mean dominion over other nations, just independence from other nations. Keeping one's nation's sovereignty is a common goal amongst nationalists. Their disagreements are more superficial on some ideological differences i.e Ukraine

Sz in Hungarian is pronounced as [s], so Fidesz is pronounced as [fides]

@SuhbanIo

11 күн бұрын

finally someone with a brain

@cameroonemperor755

11 күн бұрын

Fidesh

@ivion9490

11 күн бұрын

@@SuhbanIo not everyone knows Hungarian, so the problem isn't really from lack of a brain

@nick90000

11 күн бұрын

think Fidesz translates to garbaaaage I believe

@Dread_2137

11 күн бұрын

And to make it more confusing, [s] is pronounced [sh].

Gotta love how when Meloni came to power it was all screams of hysteria, a fascist in Italy, Mussolini's back, brace for the Apocalypse, and now she's travelling with the most establishment caricature of Europe and none has to apologise for the BS

@bloodwargaming3662

8 күн бұрын

Avg right wing Capitalist always at the foot of Capitalists. She literally supports everything she opposed

@govaert7

6 күн бұрын

Well, she's playing a tactical game to soften here tone and policies in public and is showing the public opinion and world leaders that far-right politicians can make compromises and deals. But that's all smoke and mirrors, her government is definitely hollowing out human rights for lgbtq people and surrogacy in silence in Italy.

@Yumemaru.

5 күн бұрын

Well when someone who's spewing fascist rhetoric comes to power, you're gonna have people worried about them lol.

@andylu6150

4 күн бұрын

What are the things she supports which she previously opposed?

@anto8375

2 күн бұрын

​@@andylu6150italexit, reuse the Italian money, the immigrants can land to another country, no spending review, no austerity...

I think a big rift is between pro-Putin right wingers and anti-Putin right wingers too... then again same can be said about left wing too. Usually Scandinavians and East Europeans (excl. Hungary and maybe Slovakia in parts) + Italian lady and Dutch are staunchly anti - Putin both on left and right wing, but with others there can be differences

@mapache69.

9 күн бұрын

To be fair, the left has a very large Culturally Conservative crowd in largely Eastern European Countries + Germany’s new left wing party + Denmarks social Democratic Party who agree with the Right on Immigration and Wokeism, while still be economically on the left.

Populists disagreeing?? I'm shocked, shocked I say!!

@TheGoukaruma

11 күн бұрын

It's not like other groups don't. Disagreeing is a main part of the job.

@Mark-gd2ti

11 күн бұрын

​@@TheGoukarumaother disagree even more 😂😂 the left in Italy is at 19% sure they are going to win. 😂😂

@marciusnhasty

11 күн бұрын

Some political parties in Europe aren't populist, they're dead serious on their ideology. Those are the really scary ones. That's what defines party as radical, they actually want to implement what they campaign on and hold far from center positions.

@Gentleman130

11 күн бұрын

I have a feeling that you don‘t know what populism means

@lander681

11 күн бұрын

Are you using 'populits' as a synonym for 'right wing parties?'

would love to see more european parliament videos ngl

Helpful thank you!

Inger Støjberg of the Denmarks Democrats, the new main right-wing party in Denmark, has also said she wont stay in the ECR if Fidesz joins

@Carewolf

9 күн бұрын

Not really right wing as much as a lying party, based on a lie, set up to promote more lies.

Here in Austria, the remigration discussed in Germany is just something the FPÖ openly wants.

@mrsupremegascon

6 күн бұрын

Yeah, dont understand why it's so controversial, this is stuff that most country do, from Japan to USA. Typical Europeans thinking they are more virtuous while destroying their country.

Its not "divided" its how it had always been. Its just that people now decided to stop generalising others

@roddbroward9876

10 күн бұрын

The same people who have been lumping everyone else as "far right" are suddenly shocked to find out that there is more to it than that and act like it's news. 🙄

I’m a right winger and see this as a positive thing. The left wing disagreed about everything the past fifty years and that led to total policy victory. You need arguments to get to the best solutions. The right wing was just so defeated that from the distance it looked like a monolith

@bloodwargaming3662

8 күн бұрын

You must livin'n the life past 5-7 years ? 😂

@joenichols3901

8 күн бұрын

@@bloodwargaming3662 dude watching the pendulum swing is WILD. I've also watched China super closely (for a normal person lol) and it has been even crazier watching what is happening with them Girls like soap operas, some dudes love sports... I love geopolitics. Can't help it

I always had this question, now you told me why!!😂 Thanks

Sorry, but I have to criticize the way you pronounce things. The "sz" at the end of FIDESZ is the "s" in English. Meanwhile the "s" in Budapest is pronounced as "sh" correctly, you basically had them backwards.

It's the difference between those who are able to govern and those who just want to criticize.

@mrvwbug4423

7 күн бұрын

Right wing populists have yet to produce a stable, decent government in Europe. For all the praise Meloni gets outside of Italy for her foreign policy, her domestic policy is still a mess of dumpster fire budgets and populist pandering. It's just like the MAGA cult in the US, they can't govern they only know greivance and complaining.

I'm surprised that the video didn't find time to mention that the UK's conservative party was partly responsible for the rift in the European right, having been a major player in the split of the ECR from the EPP. The split was part of Cameron's posturing on Europe that was supposed to placate the Anti-Europe faction in his party, and we all see how that turned out.

Okay french from an overseas territory here - mayotte is very conservative for a reason migration on the island is very violent and destroying and terrorising the population to a point where people stay home and children do not go to school. So German FD whatever can say anything its not gonna change that Marine Le Pen is very popular and her trip already happened! She was like a super star on the island

5:40 "Czech and Slovakian" It's Slovak, not Slovakian.

Politics working as designed then, moderates working together to sideline the extremists.

@00fgytduydrtu

10 күн бұрын

What is a "Moderate" and an "Extremists" is whatever the Elite of a Society tells.

@MadeAnAccountOnlyToReplyToThis

10 күн бұрын

Because importing tens of thousands of migrants is very "moderate".

@jikkh2x

9 күн бұрын

There is nothing “moderate” about the genocide of Europe.

The shift rightwards was triggered when a large number of darker skinned folk were moving from Syria to Europe. Russia being Russia, would carpet bomb/destroy cities, therefore contributing to the migration. Then, Orban being the angel that he is, assisted in transporting the migrants from Hungary to other EU countries.

The real problem for them is that moderate parties are really successful because there policies are moderated, far left or far right are less likely to get along with each other because there policies can go to the extream in many areas, making it difficult to work with each other. Then on top of that, you've got many of them that are moderating to appeal to more voters, and it's probably why throughout history, far left and far right parties rarely do that well long term, and usually when they do well, it's because the mainstream parties are messing up so the extream parties take advantage of the anger in voters. The reason why so many parties that are seen as far left or far right are toning down many of their policies, it's because they know that if they want to appeal to voters long term, they need to tone there policies down to have any chance of winning elections time after, otherwise, they have this chance of power, mess things up a lot with there extream policies and voters are unlikely to vote them back in, some extream parties get that, others don't, that will make it difficult for them to work with each other unless the population at large becomes radicalised, which if that were to happen, we've got a lot more problems to worry about and basically, as long as the population at large is mostly moderated, the far left and far right are not really much of a threat, yes they can have the odd victories, and yes they can rule on fear, but it's hard for them to succeed when the population isn't on the same wavelength as them.

Not nearly as divided as thr left in its constant civil war

The N-VA is looking to leave the ECR too. They don’t feel at home there anymore since the British left.

@darth856

10 күн бұрын

Where would they go? To the EPP? ID seems like too extreme a group for them.

@GeekVincent

10 күн бұрын

@@darth856 They are either looking to go to EPP or Renew. If they’re allowed.

@mapache69.

9 күн бұрын

@@GeekVincent🤣. They’re better off being a Non Inscrit or join ID.

@bozulzrican

6 күн бұрын

how you know that?

@GeekVincent

6 күн бұрын

@@bozulzrican Belgian news articles, even Flemish minister-president Jan Jambon (N-VA) said that they’re probably gonna leave ECR because the party doesn’t feel at home there anymore. The articles said they’re looking to either EPP or Renew.

4:49 Minor correction: Fidesz is pronounced as “Fides”. “Fidesh” would be Fides in Hungarian

The SZ in Fidesz is pronounced "s" not "sh".

Nationalists from different countries not being able to find common ground. Oh wow how could that ever have happened?😅

So, you're saying that a group that is based in the fear and opposition of the "other" have a hard time working with people that are not part of its ingroup. What a shock this is!

I think the major distinction between ECR and ID is that at their heart, ECR politicians genuinely believe in democracy and the European project, while believing in the promotion of national identity conservative policies within that framework. Many of the ID parties, on the other hand, favor a more burn it all down mentality towards the EU and don’t see the regression of democratic values as such a terrible thing. I know that some of the ECR parties are considering including Fidez, but I would be highly surprised if that union came to pass. Fidez seems more closely aligned politically with the ID parties, and it seems to me that Orban is only considering joining ECR because of their more prominent position and influence within the EU. ECR likely wants to allow talks with Fidez to keep Orban in the fold and keep him from creating new headaches, but were ECR to allow Fidez to join, it would not only fracture their coalition, but it would also reduce their influence over the more powerful EPP.

This is not a surprised for many. Who agrees?

I tend to dislike how people use "The Right" and "The Left" as generalizations because you wouldn't say that someone who when asked where they leaned stops for a while and says "Yeah I guess I sorta lean center-right wing" and Hitler are in the same group, and you wouldn't say that someone who when asked where they leaned stops for a while and says "yeah I guess I sorta lean center-left wing" and Stalin are in the same group.

@nero9506

10 күн бұрын

I think one of the main reasons why this tends to be a problem is the semi-recent spread of the bipartisan rethoric that characterizes the US, with Republicans and Democrats being the only main references for right and left over there. And there's no doubt that US politics are influential over here in the EU as well, which is why some people tend to absorb some idiocies of their system such as said oversimplification of politics (or rather, dumbifying IMO).

@GOODYGOODGOOD789

10 күн бұрын

@@nero9506 Agreed especially since the U.S. is definitely the strongest country in terms of soft power and easily the most powerful European country (metaphorically speaking).

@chickenfishhybrid44

9 күн бұрын

Maybe. Part of it could be that there's been a pretty big convergence on general policy and ideas among most parties and politicans in Europe. It's however always easy and convenient to blame external forces, the US making an ideal boogeyman.

Interesting choice of last image with Michel and Zelensky. That makes me think that there is a rift even at the very head of the EU between Charles Michel, who comes from the party furthest on the right in French speaking Belgium, the MR, which is however at the european level in a group (ALDE) on the left of the PPE, and who is vocal on things like asking for a ceasefire in Gaza, and Ursula Von Der Layden, who seems not having problem cosying up with Meloni. I think there is indeed a very deep ideological division in Europe, and it will only become clearer and clearer with time, as the different points of disagrement condense into ideological identities...

@attilaabonyi8879

11 күн бұрын

I hope our continents politics wont become that of america's

@deeznutz8320

10 күн бұрын

it allready is​@@attilaabonyi8879

2:53 Im confused, can MEP’s also be MPs in their own countries respective parliaments?

@delfinenteddyson9865

9 күн бұрын

so, I made a quick search, and you have basically the ECR as political group in the European Parliament, and the ECR party, which comprises not just the political group but also all the other members. So Meloni presides over the ECR party, but not the group in the parliament and is not herself an MEP, if that makes sense.

Honestly, Fidesz should just join the ID; they'd fit in *_perfectly_* alongside Le Pen Jr and A-fascist-D.

@Kaizzer

10 күн бұрын

Lega are very populist and somehow pro-Putin as well

@darth856

10 күн бұрын

I suspect Orban's desire to join ECR is a tactical move, hoping to have more influence that way. I agree they fit in way better with the openly Putin-adoring parties in the ID.

@mapache69.

9 күн бұрын

AFD is about as fascist as a box of Kellogg’s Cereal. Nothing Fascistic about being against Colonization.

@mrvwbug4423

7 күн бұрын

ID might as well just rename themselves to "Putins lapdogs"

6:00 hehe involved in the ‘beef’🤓🤓

Yeah, this makes sense.

This has always been the case. Maybe this wouldn't be surprising if you stopped painting everything in broad strokes and actually paid attention to the news you're covering.

Can someone name a single rightwing thing the EPP has succesfully done in the last 20 years?

@Revokefarleft

11 күн бұрын

Because they’re right wing on paper, they lean towards left 😂😂

@gohanssj48

10 күн бұрын

Furthering leftist agenda.

@MovieMenno

10 күн бұрын

@@Revokefarleft i am very aware of this But i stand open to be corrected

@whitezombie10

10 күн бұрын

There is no way to contradict you, because they aren’t really right wing. Most modern right wing parties are like this only on paper, and this has been proven by both FDI in Italy (as an Italian I see it firsthand) and the Conservative Party under Sunak. This is why more “extreme” parties are becoming popular, people are fed up with voting for the same party but with a different name

0:31 Charlie's Angels 😅

Thank you for this very informative video. Won't Macron support the candidacy of Mario Draghi as EC's next president to strenghten ties with Italy? Does Meloni support Draghi's candidacy?

@whitezombie10

10 күн бұрын

No Meloni does not support Draghi because he isn’t right wing like her

@lacommission.-sitcom696

10 күн бұрын

@@whitezombie10 I kind of suspected that so, thank you for confirming my suspicion.

@whitezombie10

10 күн бұрын

@@lacommission.-sitcom696you’re welcome

It will be very hard for evry thing to go right in Europe, because of all these groups. Soom pulling right and some pulling left. So they cannot get it right some times.

Lol Fidesh... they're Hungarian, not Polish.

In Europe 🇪🇺, whether they are right-wing or leftist They all can not critique 🇮🇱

Strangely enough, in Italy you might say that Meloni's fratelli d'Italia is further right if compared to Lega. And Meloni was definitely inspired by Marine Le Pen

Two things that amuse me about commentary on the left and right are 1. The populist right is a term often used to describe and deride the far right but no mention is ever made of the far left. In fact, I would argue that left right and centre politicians are all populist as they seek to please their voter segment. 2. No mention is made of the complicated policies of left and right and how they often contradict each other. For example you can have a party who is conservative on some issues and liberal on other issues.

Is divided because nowadays anyone who is not a leftist is called a "right wing". In other words, there is no division, but a lot of different political opitions that are put together by the left in the "right wing" bag

@fmvm

11 күн бұрын

correct! There is no ideology of "the right", at least you can find 3 major ideologies: conservatives/traditionalists, nationalists, and libertarians. And a whole mix like in a Venn diagram

@kasetoast8354

11 күн бұрын

Thats funny, because in germany, everybody who is not far-right is called left-extremist by the AFD.

@bloodwargaming3662

8 күн бұрын

Lmao . No only the right wingers are called right wing

Which parties where the UK parties apart of before they left?

How do ID and ECR differ on specific policy points?

@mapache69.

9 күн бұрын

ECR is critical of the EU, but overall agrees in the concept of it. They just want reform. They also generally are pro west. ID generally wants to leave the EU, and is more so Pro Russian.

As a liberal, I think this media is so biased. Do you hear him calling the Greens radical left? No.

@withoutshadowww

10 күн бұрын

Greens are usually centre-left, some of them are centrist, and nowadays rarely left especially radical left. German Greens are nowadays centrist, militaristic, pro-war, pro-US, very much anti-communist as well. They prefer a coalition with conservatives and liberals over socialists.

@XY-uc1tw

10 күн бұрын

​@@withoutshadowww German Greens are extreme socialists for local politics. In foreign politics, they just do what the USA says.

@whitezombie10

10 күн бұрын

Yeah unfortunately it happens all the time on social media. All non-mainstream right wing parties are always labelled as far right, radical or fascist but with the left it’s always left leaning, moderate and centre left

@TheBluverde

10 күн бұрын

Because most green parties are centre-left these days.

@Kalimdor199Menegroth

10 күн бұрын

@@withoutshadowww They are not in coalition with conservatives, they are with socialists and liberals. And they are far-left from a conservative point of view. Green Deal is a far left policy. They are anti-Russia, I'll give you that, but that doesn't make them center or center-left.

The Czech ODS has basically let their group (which they were a co-founder of) change from the "conservatives are reformists" to a patchwork of populist and neofacist parties with different oppions on many key issues... But don't want to actually join the real fascists in ID Like I'm not a conservative far away on the other side actually, but seeing the governing anti-populist, pro Western, generic right wing, softly socially conservative party (ODS) in the same group as Law and Justice or The Brothers of Italy and potentially Fidesz.... That's very very weird and out of place.

@matuskriska8361

10 күн бұрын

Same goes here in slovakia for SaS, but even they are socially liberal, but also eurosceptic and now are paired with PiSs and other neofascist parties. Its horrible

@TheBluverde

10 күн бұрын

Do you think they could join the EPP like the other Spolu member parties?

@therealnuggetball

9 күн бұрын

@@TheBluverde wouldn't count on it, but I don't see how they couldn't be conservative and softly Eurosceptic in EPP there are many conservatives that are soft Eurosceptics there... If Orban joins I think there is a possibility

@therealnuggetball

9 күн бұрын

@@matuskriska8361 noticed that too... Like I get it SAS are libertarians and more right than most EPP parties but still... I

@vladimirbrabec69

9 күн бұрын

If you look at Brothers of Italy they evolved. You unfairly treat them as fascist. You could also say ODS is party ruled by mafia or more modestly "Kmotrové". But that would be really stupid. On the other hand PiS is kind of different matter. Their antiabortion policies are quite crossing line. But to be fair their opportunistic "suck up EU fund" policy was quite succesfull. So I get your sentiment here.

ID and ECR are completely different. You can't put them together as just being "right wing".

@francescomasiero7285

4 күн бұрын

No, ID and ECR are both very right wing

The true enemy more often than not lies within.

Right-Wing parties wants to protect their countries national benefits. As different countries have different interests, it's just normal that they're not thinking the same. The other way around is weird; some countries benefit from the EU much more, and some countries are getting nothing but still supporting the EU. Something is wrong here!

@Lewa500

10 күн бұрын

No such thing. Every country benefits from frictionless trade, which is what the common market enables. Whatever money richer nations put in is made back several times over thanks to that.

Nationalists don't like other nationalists? Whaaaaaaat that's crazy bro

@Tiasung

10 күн бұрын

That just shows the level of propaganda this video portrays, and how easily people like you fall for obvious illogical conclusions. Nationalists are the ones that like other nationalists the mosts. The reason being they respect countries that respect their own way of life and culture and stand for their people. So what you and the video claim couldnt be further from the truth. But its unsurprisingly that a side that demonizes any line of thought that is not identical to their own as being ''right wing extremist'' etc, has a hard time getting to terms with the truth.

@SLDimarco

10 күн бұрын

@@Tiasung lmao okay, because historically nationalists have stayed within the boundaries of their nation and haven't harmed other nations in their pursuit of putting themselves first.

@googane7755

10 күн бұрын

@@Tiasung The Yugoslav wars and the 19th and 20th century disproves that. Even Mussolini didn't get along Hitler until he was forced to join his side after facing complete diplomatic isolation from the League. Nationalists only co-operate if they have mutual interests and purely see each other as a means to an end. As soon as it's advantageous to put your own group over the other they will not hesitate.

@Liamg1999

10 күн бұрын

@@Tiasung definition of nationalism - "identification with one's own nation and support for its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations", note how it says "to the detriment of other nations"

@Kalimdor199Menegroth

10 күн бұрын

@@googane7755 "Nationalists only co-operate if they have mutual interests and purely see each other as a means to an end. As soon as it's advantageous to put your own group over the other they will not hesitate." This applies for pretty much any political party though. Other political blocks may get along on national level, but that doesn't mean it applies on international relations. The left in Europe is also very different. The left in the West is different than the left in the East.

This just sounds So European with different local interests and its plethora of parties, unlike, say, the US or Japan. But Europeans have had very regional and localized differences for only at least 2500 years.

So what? Are they supposed to be a bland monolith with no personalities of their own? It's enough if right wing parties win in their own countries and make the Euripean Parliament as right wing as possible

0:59 Who told you that EPP is right-wing? That's absurd! They're center-center right, not right-wing!

There are 2 types of right-wing groups: - Receive money from putin - Doesn't receive money from putin

@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana

8 күн бұрын

Are we going to classify people based on who receives money 💰 from the USA 🦅 like that too? Or is bribery only wrong when they other side does it? 🙄

@user-fu2sg4vt3d

8 күн бұрын

@@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana Some lenders take percents for allowing use of theirs money, other prefer soul/ dirty compromat and betrayal of nation as a way of dealing with it.

@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana

8 күн бұрын

@@user-fu2sg4vt3d Well, a pity we don't lock up leaders who take bribes from the USA 🦅 then.

Divided? Good.

Let’s go right!

I lost count of the references to the "far-right". Are you guys auditioning for Channel 4, Sky, or the BBC?

@diogorodrigues747

11 күн бұрын

Yeah, and?

@krisdaschwab912

11 күн бұрын

True or false: Le Pen, Salvini, Orban and Konfederacja are far right.

@Revokefarleft

11 күн бұрын

What do you expect from them bro 😅 they think that having borders is a far-right thing so yeah

@Revokefarleft

11 күн бұрын

@@krisdaschwab912not even close bruh 😂 they are no far-right parties in EU

@lawtraf8008

10 күн бұрын

All those channels are right wings so what's your point ?

I'd like to phone in a movie quote for this: Let them fight.

@kingdomofbird8174

11 күн бұрын

I think the left ones weren't "united" in the first place, they seem to be quite divided on Palestine and NATO, and somewhat towards Russia, GUE/NGL has many Pro-Russia, Euro skeptical, and Anti NATO parties, while S&D is more soft pro- NATO, heavily pro-ukraine, and currently in coalition with the EPP The unity seems to be coming mostly from the center EPP S&D Renew

50 shades of right-wing collectivism

As an EU citizen I didn't know anything about this.

Rough context for the americans, the EPP is like the democrats and the ECR and ID are like the republicans

@thematthew761

10 күн бұрын

I’d say the Democrats are more like the center or center left

@CroatianUltraNationalist

10 күн бұрын

comparing Western European parties to USA is a literal joke. if you compare Eastern european parties to USA its a different story

@neptune1525

10 күн бұрын

​@@CroatianUltraNationalistwhy, can you explain to me

@CroatianUltraNationalist

10 күн бұрын

@@neptune1525 Western europe is way too liberal to compare it to USA,. Eastern europe is more nationalistic and conservative which is why it would make for a better comparison

@lordpolish2727

10 күн бұрын

lol the EPP is not like the democrats Democrats are basically big tent, with most of its members being centrist, but they also have a left wing faction ECR is centre right They are not comparable

Why is this surprising exactly? Never mind being worth making a video for? Macron and Schultz don't exactly get along either despite being both centrist. Hell, most political parties throughout Europe these days don't even seem to be able to be fully unified, they all have some factions and internal issues so never mind two different parties in two different countries.

@Leon-le9cn

11 күн бұрын

Why discuss reality when you can just ignore it

@Kalimdor199Menegroth

11 күн бұрын

Neither Macron, nor Scholtz are centrists, especially Scholtz, a former DRG crony. "Hell, most political parties throughout Europe these days don't even seem to be able to be fully unified, they all have some factions and internal issues so never mind two different parties in two different countries." And why is this a bad thing? Diversity of opinion and conflicts of visions in the political landscape is a token of a democratic society. When everyone is united and there is no dissent, that is when you should be worried about.

@faissal3055

11 күн бұрын

Scholz is a social democrat

@mtr801

11 күн бұрын

@@faissal3055 Yes, a very moderate social democrat.

@faissal3055

11 күн бұрын

@@mtr801 that is true, but it is also because he is in a coalition with the fdp, the most fiscally conservative and market liberal party in parliament

Not surprising in a continent with varying similar, but different nation states, that parties in the same groupings would be similar, but also different. I can see the ongoing war in Ukraine strengthening rifts on both the European right and European left between those in support of Ukraine and those friendly to Putin.

The transparency is off the last two videos.

- be a nationalist - collaborate constructively with other nations You can only choose one.

EPP is "conservative" depending on which party we're talking about. A lot of them are centrist

@etyl2494

11 күн бұрын

being a centrist is somehow right-wing or conservative nowadays

@honestlordcommissarbrighte7921

11 күн бұрын

The only thing "conservative" about them is that they just happen to be to the right of the extreme left 😂. Calling them centrist is generous at best.

@georgios_5342

11 күн бұрын

In Greece they're basically leftist. They recently legalized gay marriage 😅

@nntflow7058

11 күн бұрын

@@etyl2494 No, some centrist party are left leaning or right leaning (center-left/center-right). The Center-right parties tend to align themselves with right wing or other center-right wing parties in their country when it's time to form coalition. Same goes for center-left parties and their tendencies to align themselves with a more left leaning parties.

@Siranoxz

11 күн бұрын

@@etyl2494 Then people are idiots today.

Kermit Roosevelt and Walt Disney are the same person his brother is Archie Roosevelt. If anyone is unable to understand the above sentence do some research!

sz in Hungarian is pronounced “s” :)

The main rift is between those that acknowledge a collective European indentity, and those which do not. Those who do are staunchly Europeíst, I count among their ranks.

@AlexanderofMiletus

10 күн бұрын

As well as I. Europa invicta!

@paulomartins1008

10 күн бұрын

@@AlexanderofMiletus invicta Europa est

@Mark-gd2ti

10 күн бұрын

Those who acknowledge it? Leftist do? I missed that part.... They don't even think we exists.

@AlexanderofMiletus

10 күн бұрын

@@paulomartins1008 Thanks for the correction

@jikkh2x

9 күн бұрын

Are you? Or are you a globalist?

There are two main right wing blocks and ofcourse they're at odds. Corporates are pro EU integration, while nationalists are strongly opposed to that, and this split breaks the far right

@RichelieuUnlimited

11 күн бұрын

It‘s basically about where they think they can make more money.

Co-operation over national borders is simply hard if your whole parties existence is about retaining or taking back your full nation sovereignty.

I am pretty sure nationalist hungarians and nationalist Romanians do not get along very well

Europe is for European is the one thing we can all agree with

@cmd7930

9 күн бұрын

Then they will try to question what being European means They never do this to other people like Africans or Asians

@bloodwargaming3662

8 күн бұрын

​@@cmd7930Asians didn't bring in slaves from eu and made them work their fields and then use them as machines to suck their labour and then for century subjugate them . Ending up in a long battle for their recognition. So there is that

@bloodwargaming3662

8 күн бұрын

Yeah . Europeans aren't only white

@cmd7930

8 күн бұрын

@@bloodwargaming3662 so what are they? Definitely dont have black skin or asian eyes.

The euro left implodes over who interprets Marx better while the euro right implodes over which country has the historical and cultural right to make a certain type of cheese

I love how everyone’s correcting the presenter’s pronunciations down here in the comments! 😂

@TheBluverde

10 күн бұрын

Some creators intentionally keep small mistakes in their videos because this means that many people will correct them in a comment and videos with many comments are more likely to be recommended.

ECR and ID memberships are mixed up. ie RN should be in ECR and FI should be in ID. Also Xemour should be in ID instead of ECR.

I would really like each political party at a national level officialy publish its alignement on a European level. Most citizens don't really realize what is at stake on European level.

Having didi disagreements is not bad but not agreeing in anything is bad

How surprising that political movements focussing on division and isolation have a hard time to unite and stand together.

@Revokefarleft

11 күн бұрын

And how surprising that left wing politicians focusing on controlling the narrative and creating a Soviet Union instead of EU can remain together 😅😅

@Vatnik_tschistilka

10 күн бұрын

A lot of these freaks even have issues sticking together within their own parties like Germany's AfD. So working together with a foreign party is like their Everest😂

@Anixander6230

9 күн бұрын

you lefties are Islamist.

Finally this far right movement is showing cracks all over the world

That centre right party is NOT centre right. It has parties like the ChristenUnie which is absolutely not rightwing, but leftwing.

You did not mention the severe difference between ECR and ID regarding EU-Europe against Russia-Vassals. The ECR is rightwing regarding population politics and economic issues. But Meloni and ECR is for an "Great-Europe" from Lissabon to Tiflis. But ID is definitely against EU as new fourth Globalpower beside China and Russia. ECR will continue atlantic partnership with USA and retain NATO. ID want to dismantle NATO, EU and any ideas of "Great-Europe". ID targets to integrate a weakend Europe into Putins Eurasic Union lead from Russia and taking Europe and China as Vassal states of Zar Wladimir Putin. This is a very important difference between ECR and ID. And Victor Orban should join the ID Group. This is his true home group. And neither ECR or EPP. I personlly like Meloni but dislike Le Pen. Let Macron continue France leadership. Germany may get a Germany---Red-Yellow-Black coalition from SPD-FDP-CDU to block out the extremestic Green and Blue (AFD) parties. A coalition of Renew Europe with EPR and ECR could do a similar step on EU stage. Block out extremist from Left and Right and build a coallision for Pro Great-EU-Europe parties to form a stronger Europe as fourth Global Player.

@nonradicalnationalist6608

11 күн бұрын

One problem one ID party already exists inside Hungary

@ldubt4494

11 күн бұрын

Fully agree, but i think orban could also start his own european party that focuses on illiberalism, anti westernism, but pragmatism on the EU, as he is, although anti western, not as anti EU per se as much of the ID.

@ldubt4494

11 күн бұрын

​​@@nonradicalnationalist6608 as far as i know mi hazank is not part of ID not does it want to join, so it will remain unaffiliated

@crhu319

11 күн бұрын

So ID is most realistic about post USA world.

@wolfgangrenner4152

11 күн бұрын

@@crhu319 Yes, and this is the reason why I don't support ID. You prefere Russia over USA as world leading power ? I don't do so. I stand behind EPP which is for continuation of atlantic partnership. I think that Macron is right, that EU-Europe must become adult and abel to operate as independend own Superpower. But I do not like Macrons Anti-US rethorics. Probably he is doing so to fetch some voters from the Le Pen Block with (stupid) national statements. Everybody in Europe (clear in mind) knows that today a single european national state is nothing on world stage. Only an united Europe will take third place behind USA and China. Russia has a lot of Nukes, Shells and country space. Also a lot of ore, coal, oil an gas. But is Russia an leading force in lifestyle, culture, industrie etc. ? No Russia is therewith the same like North Korea. So do not dream from Russian World Empire. Will be North Korea wrapped around the whole Globe. China is much stronger in industries and modern lifestyle issues. But China is not the entire World of culture etc..

I have nothing against the center right EPP or even the center left, but the ones strafing far right and far left will fracture Europe and especially the EU into a weaker continent based on old habits and isolationism and especially idealistic traditional old ways of governing countries in the modern day. Far right and Far left has always resulted in autocratic populism if given a chance.

@wile123456

11 күн бұрын

Enlightened Centrism I agree with you if by far left you mean communists, but the democratic socialist parties are the ones who will improve europe, the oens who defend the climate the best, and the ones promoting democracy and human rights stronger than any other group.

@dankrobin4965

11 күн бұрын

Ah yes concerned about the far left while the far right is rising for years Makes total sense for a democracy..

@soundscape26

11 күн бұрын

Agreed

@rafflesiaandfriends

11 күн бұрын

Don't bunch the far left with any right leaning party or group

@scipion34

11 күн бұрын

@@rafflesiaandfriends Horseshoe fact strikes again.

All very straight forward

Yeah the European right is a joke. The American one is more serious at least

Meloni is a center right candidate. You shouldn’t label everything left of center as extreme

@francescomasiero7285

4 күн бұрын

Meloni is right wing, not centre-right

@1mnyenaphar727

Күн бұрын

centre right should be economically liberal.

CDU is right wing? That was a joke right?

We will see if the Sweden Democrats actually mean business. Until recently, and they still do, they called Hungary a "model-country" for them. It is only a recent development for SD to be pro-NATO, and anti-Russian enough to condemn Orban. It is a domestic play for the election, because being pro-Ukraine and anti-Hungary plays well with the Swedish electorate. How they will act when the rubber hits the road is a different matter.

@Anke06

11 күн бұрын

The Sweden Democrats as a party calling Hungary as a whole a "model country" for them is not true. What are your sources? The party leader has been very clear what he thinks about Hungary's democratic problems.

@_tsu_

11 күн бұрын

Yeah maybe some politicians is SD liked Fidesz but they were always pro NATO. And supporting Russia is a clear red line and changing one's stance based on that is commendable. Everything they have done off late says they mean business.

@leonardoleo5740

11 күн бұрын

Being swedish, I can totally see them going the way Meloni went.

@comedyriff5231

11 күн бұрын

SD´s anti-Russia stance is genuine. Whether they´ll be softer on Hungary in the future, I don´t know. But as long as Russia is conquering other European nations, SD will always be against them. I know it´s hard for left wing Swedes to believe this, because they hold on to this narrative that SD is terrible in every way. When they do something good, they must have some ulterior motive. If you know enough SD people in your daily life, you know most of them aren´t closet nazis. They might have some problematic views and policies, but the way the left paint them is absurd. I have never voted for SD by the way.

I would consider ECR neither "radical" nor center-right, but just "right" or right-conservative (the Tories were once their member). Some of them (Italy, Sweden) are more cooperative with the EU, while others (Poland) are more problematic. ID is destructive to the EU, willing to leave or dismantle the union and supporting its external enemies.

Political parties on both Left & Right are divided. There's no really united force in Europe that can provide true social cohesion, guaranteed economic stability and unified authoritative governance. The problem is that each constituent part of a bigger voting bloc has their own agenda and interests to protect. Whether you're a socialist, ecologist, communist, conservative, nationalist or whatever, you have your own specific manifesto tailor-made for your own political party. For example, even though the parties of the 'patriotic right' mostly have an anti-immigration stance across the whole of Europe, they may take a different economic view from a variety of economic models that at one end display rigorous state control to total laissez-faire attitude at the other. The Far Right in France, for instance, favours extensive state ownership of utilities, natural resources and major industries, whereas the Polish nationalists may favour a more liberalised free entrepreneurial approach. Unless the main constituent parts of each bloc can agree on the fundamental aspects of their ideology, there will never be unity and a tendency toward factionalism, splintering and disharmony will persist and even worsen.

The girlies are fighting

Mommy Meloni > Le Peen

@Howdy606

10 күн бұрын

Agree. Le Peen is just another P utin apologist.

Who is this video made for, children? People from different Countries and in right wing parties don't all agree with one another obviously, who ever thought or said they did.

One thing should be brought about about far right: it's nationalist. And nationalism only works in a logic of "our nation vs. other nations". You can create good relations with select other nations, but in general the concept is that if something is good for me and bad for another country, let's go for it. International large alliances across far right parties can only be nonsensical.